Like literally.
Survey: 8 in 10 employers thing Gen Z workers need ‘etiquette training’
by Anonymous | reply 27 | October 28, 2024 12:22 PM |
methings you are right, OP
by Anonymous | reply 1 | October 26, 2024 5:20 PM |
My solution is much simpler.
I don't hire them.
Literally.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | October 26, 2024 5:27 PM |
Literally
by Anonymous | reply 3 | October 26, 2024 5:30 PM |
Let’s start with knowing how to hold a knife and fork properly.
I don’t have kids, and I’m in my 60s now, but my entire life has been listening to how hard it is to rear children. OK, so I kept quiet. But this is what people born in the 1970s and 80s are putting into the workforce? You sucked at it and these adult/children are the worst. I’ve come across some excellent young coworkers I’m happy to say. The majority, however, are continually unhappy with rules that don’t bend for them, punctuality and steady attendance requirements when they have flare-ups of their self-diagnosed conditions, and atrocious manners.
Also, there’s never enough money. I get that rents are high but I think so many were brought up without learning the value of money or budgeting. When you’re spending $25 a week on coffee don’t whine about what you can’t afford.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | October 26, 2024 5:38 PM |
I hate these little fuckers with a passion; I manage a smalll team of them. Absolutely worthless and don't understand hierarchy: this is their first job out of college and they complain how "unfair" it is that my colleague, another Director of the company, comes in after 10am on some days and leaves at 4. They think they're on the same level, professionallly, and I have to remind them, OVER AND OVER AGAIN, that once they've put in 30 years of working and become a company executive then they, too, can have flexibility in their hours (then also remind them that we work all the time as needed, even weekends and late nights).
God I hate them so much. I want to fire them all and replace with fellow Gen Xers.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | October 26, 2024 5:48 PM |
"The majority, however, are continually unhappy with rules that don’t bend for them, punctuality and steady attendance requirements when they have flare-ups of their self-diagnosed conditions, and atrocious manners."
This is it. But I think some of this was brought on by the helicopter parenting and rules that we didn't have growing up. Walking to school? Too dangerous. Hang out with friends? Need to schedule a playdate. Issue with school? Monitored and dealt with by parents digitally with the teachers.
Plus it's insane when you watch online what happens in classrooms - teachers and admin don't appear to be able to punish kids. Fights, kids constantly talking, complete disrespect to the teachers - with no consequences.
I overhear so many of my male co-workers dealing with their teens - these are not pushover men by any means - but holy shit these teens (15-18, not early teens) can't do anything for themselves.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | October 26, 2024 5:48 PM |
Actually, I will clarify the only ones who show any promise and real work ethic -- in my experience -- have ALWAYS been first generation / children of immigrants to the US. They understand the opportunity they have that they wouldn't have had in their parent's home countries, and work hard and don't complain. However, because of this they tend to move up quickly and onto better opportunities and don't stick around long. Good for them, I say.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | October 26, 2024 5:52 PM |
Gen X who gave birth to these little retards need to be horse-whipped. They’re still wearing diapers.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | October 26, 2024 5:54 PM |
R4 here -- one of the things that Boomers need to do is evolve. Our generation -- and many before us -- understood about "paying your dues." That appears to have gone the way of the dodo, so we should adjust but how to adjust to people who essentially do not want to put in the work? I manage a small (30 people) team and my God, I hear constantly from two of them about the most minor inconveniences. When I say, Well figure something out it's proof that I'm not a leader. No, do your work, and finding solutions is actually good for you but they are just blind to this rationale.
Don't even get me started on "time blindness"!
by Anonymous | reply 9 | October 26, 2024 8:50 PM |
[quote] we work all the time as needed, even weekends and late nights
Your company sounds like hell, and I hope those kids leave and get jobs someplace decent ASAP.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | October 26, 2024 9:12 PM |
R10 by "we" I mean the directors of the company and only when necessary to get a project finished. "As needed." Isn't that expected for salaried executives? We don't "like, literally" work "all the time."
by Anonymous | reply 11 | October 26, 2024 9:25 PM |
I'm over them culturally appropriating "mental illness" to use that as an excuse to get out of attendance and just showing up on time.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | October 27, 2024 3:19 AM |
[quote]one of the things that Boomers need to do is evolve
I didn't want to, as you say, "evolve." So I retired at 58 with barely a cent to my name and a tiny pension. I survived until 62 (took my SS) because I know how to watch my pennies and can live on almost nothing.
BTW, it was the Millennials I despised. They were my supervisors (since I went back to work for the state government at 54 and they started at 22 and stayed) and they were supremely arrogant, but also whiners and crybabies. It was laughable the way they patronized me (although I had a lot more experience and education than they did) and treated me like they treated their children (i.e., they had no management skills whatsoever). But there came a time when I couldn't laugh it off anymore, and I took my tiny pension and left.
I find it deliciously ironic the way they now bitch and whine about the Zers like they weren't the exact same fucking way.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | October 27, 2024 3:42 AM |
Eh.
I think each generation matures slower.
There’s a reason why the age of consent, driving ages, drinking and smoking ages have increased throughout the decades.
I remember someone here once talking about the 1950s being the decade the “teenager” was born. Prior to that, they were young adults and were viewed less as “old children” which is basically what a teenager is.
I believe adult Gen Z are in an extension of their teenage years. I think millennials grew up slow and I think Gen Z is slower.
A 22 year-old Gen Z’er is like the equivalent of a 16 year-old Gen X’er. Gen Z is panicked because they have to grow up and I don’t think they’ve evolved into grown ups.
I don’t think it’s their fault, it’s simply the evolution of society.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | October 27, 2024 3:43 AM |
BLAME the PARENTS
Who raised these people? Lots from my gen did (gen x)
Its like complaining about Participation Trophies - kids DIDN'T decide to implement participation trophies, PARENTS DID (and grandparents)
These "kids" are a product of OUR OWN GENS doing
Tho I do like how they tend to not put up with corporate culture bullshit and do have an eye on work-life balance - corps proved they have zero respect for workers and this newer gen knows it
by Anonymous | reply 15 | October 27, 2024 9:09 AM |
Well if Fox 26 Houston says it's true.....
by Anonymous | reply 16 | October 27, 2024 10:56 AM |
r5 hire me!
R7 spot on! They do see and realize the opportunities before them. Once they begin to excel in their fields, those whiney-ass bitches are going to start resenting them and accuse them of being "diversity hire", "equal opportunity hire" etc.
r15 absolutely correct. I hear/read so many our generation (Gen-X) complain about millenials and gen-z, but um....YOU RAISED THEM!
by Anonymous | reply 17 | October 27, 2024 11:18 AM |
They're fucking stupid as shit.
Nobody held our hands or our pussies the way we're required to with them.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | October 27, 2024 12:45 PM |
BTW, right now, it's older millennials having to deal directly with these little shits in the workplace. And we are NOT *vibing*.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | October 27, 2024 1:08 PM |
My former Gen Z co-workers gave each other hair cuts in the office, declined to attend a rare after hours company event to wait in line for concert tickets, talked openly about their bodily functions (and many other things not related to work), belched at their desks, and stopped what they were doing to pose for a BeReal selfie if they got the notification during office hours.
A friend of mine has a Gen Z partner who, despite having lucked into a well-paying job at a young age, says career really isn't an interest of his, brags about "not having to do anything" at work, and turns down additional projects that come with significant bonuses because they would cut into his social life. He lacks the basic politeness to even respond to a happy birthday text or react if you say "good morning" or "nice to see you."
I'm only a few years older and can't believe what they get away with. I had to eat dirt at all of my early jobs after college, and lived hand-to-mouth for the entirety of my twenties. It makes me mad to see these younger people not respecting the opportunities they have.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | October 27, 2024 3:59 PM |
The problem is the combination of snowplow parenting, along with the parents 'need' to be liked by their kids, vs being respected.
Parents need to allow their kids to fail, learn, amd grow from the experience but they've plowed all obstacles before the kid could tackle anything. The need to be liked vs respected is from them remembering how 'scared they were of their parents ', which wasn't legitimate fear, just afraid of repercussions.
The majority of kids raised by single serve screens will struggle, they didn't so much as wait for a phone line to be available to them, or wait for someone in your house to finish using the computer before you could use it. Such basic things teach things about patience, awareness of those around you, etc.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | October 27, 2024 4:44 PM |
R13, you sound like a cunt. I'm glad your coworkers rankled your old ass.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | October 27, 2024 5:37 PM |
R22, and it's hilarious that we were your supervisors, too. I certainly wouldn't suffer a fool like you. Old or not.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | October 27, 2024 5:39 PM |
[quote] I survived until 62 (took my SS) because I know how to watch my pennies and can live on almost nothing.
Ewww, you're one of those.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | October 27, 2024 5:40 PM |
[quote]He lacks the basic politeness to even respond to a happy birthday text or react if you say "good morning" or "nice to see you."
I'm finding this more and more every day. These Zoomers and Millennials lack the basics of kindness and socialization skills. I go to the same place each morning for my coffee, and usually have the same young man serve me (it's his shift and i think his coworker is on drive-thru when I go in). I always give him a 'Good morning' or a 'nice to see you today' and I get a cold blank stare with his fingers positioned on the keyboard to type my order in (same iced black coffee every day).
But let me tip him 20 - 30% for his 'excellent customer service'.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | October 28, 2024 11:58 AM |
You will respect me!
by Anonymous | reply 26 | October 28, 2024 12:04 PM |
They need a sound spanking on their bot-bots
by Anonymous | reply 27 | October 28, 2024 12:22 PM |