Democrats And Harris Campaign Officials Reportedly Believe ‘She Will Lose’: ‘Already Starting to Point Fingers’

Mediatite left wing or right wing?

Nope.

Mediaite is owned by Dan Abrams. I find most of their coverage has been anti-Trump, with a sprinkling of anti-Harris pieces, too.

Founded by Dan Abrams. Just like News Nation it specializes in both siderism masked as impartiality.

My money’s on bullshit.

Also, it was founded by Dan Abrams who is right leaning but not a total MAGA. With 1 million people attending her Houston rally alone, I find this to be bullshit. It'll get views, that's all.

Anything to depress turnout.

These next 10 days are going to be chock full of this bullshit.

I think this is a deliberate strategy by the Harris campaign to panic people and boost turnout. They're doing the exact the opposite of everything Hillary's losing campaign did.

R1, Mediaite is more a clearinghouse for news sources. OP's linked article isn't some independent reporting. It links to an Axios article that makes the underlying point.

Axios also reporting.

R5

Are you saying that almost 50% of all Houstonians are attending the rally? I would love for that to be the case, but…

This could be a stealth attempt by the Dems to ensure strong turnout. They are very smart. I already know she is going to win. My clairvoyance is never wrong.

R11 demonstrates why city populations aren't relevant beyond pissing contests

I think NYC is the only US city where the city population is bigger than the metro area. Im not talking about the greater NYC are because that includes some parts of Connecticut. I just mean the true metro area.

There is no advantage to the Harris campaign of any poll showing her leading in a swing state. The only way to possibly encourage those who are not complete idiots and still thinking of sitting this one out is threatening another 4 years of Trump. The next pandemic? Ebola! Courtesy of Orange Hitler.

We can expect a constant stream of mis-information up until (and likely after) Election Day.

In this case, saying the dems are already admitting defeat, the intent is to suppress votes for Harris by discouraging people to go to the polls. ("Why's should I bother voting if she stayed she going to lose?")

On the other hand, many voters, particularly the low-information ones arguably still up for grabs, like to go with the winner. So it seems unlikely the Harris campaign would be intentionally be talking down her chances.

[quote] In this case, saying the dems are already admitting defeat, the intent is to suppress votes for Harris by discouraging people to go to the polls. ("Why's should I bother voting if she stayed she going to lose?")

Does that comport with how normal people would respond? I think it would have the opposite effect.

[quote] So it seems unlikely the Harris campaign would be intentionally be talking down her chances.

Interesting. No credible swing state poll shows her losing, she is leading or behind within the stated margin of error in all swing states.

This could be tactics but I get the sense it’s just some waves of woebegone pessimism leaking out from within the insider ranks. Which means they are just as stressed out and just as prone to predicting defeat as the good people here on Datalounge.

[quote] No credible swing state poll

Credible polls = any that show Harris winning

Listen to Teacake nervous Nancies. She is not going to lose.

From your thumbs to God's ears. Prince.

I'm pointing my finger straight up OP/Boris' traitorous ass

She is going to win and not only that 40 years from now conservatives are going to try and hijack her brand just like they try with figures like Rosa Parks and MLk. Watch. 10 years from now the media gon act like they didn’t try to both sides this shit. American is pure fuckery.

I think the polls are being manipulated by people like Elon Musk and other disinformation agents to make it seem like Dump has more support than he really does. He has hemorrhaged voters over the past 8 years and has added very few new ones.

[quote] Axios also reporting.

It’s not “also” reporting. The Axios story is the source for the Mediaite recap.

The story is not so much about Harris losing as it is about looking at what people are pointing to as the reasons for her not doing as well as people would like.

I hope yall know there is troll on here getting off on this doomsday porn.

fuck Halloween can we just vote already?

Harris rally in Houston...

She's going to lose. Look at the money markets. They don't care about polls. The money knows. And it is now favoring Trump.

Who cares about what corporations think? It's the people that vote.

Trumptard disinformation.

[quote] She's going to lose. Look at the money markets. They don't care about polls. The money knows. And it is now favoring Trump.

I have no great confidence that Harris will win, but I definitely don't look to these markets as my North Star.

[quote] Who cares about what corporations think? It's the people that vote.

The betting markets, idiot. And the stock and bond market.

It's all pointing to a Trump a win. They can be wrong, but more than likely not.

There is only way Trump can win in 2024 is if there is a significantly lower turn out for Democrats that would normally vote. And this is in the swing states more than anything. And I don't see that as a likely scenario.

Nate Silver, though a master poker player, scoffs at these betting markets.

While I generally loathe Nate Silver, I agree with his column a few days ago. Nearly every major poll shows Harris & Dump in a dead heat. These "gut feelings" are most likely just anxiety, particularly given the trifecta of terrible news for Repugs this week (the Kelly interview, Atlantic article and Vlad+Elon).

I think Harris's path to victory, like, ironically, the pre-debate Biden's, will rest solely in the Rust Belt states. I think she can can pull it off, but it's always better to have more than one path to victory.

Reading the comments it appears the author of this article writes these kinds of stories frequently. He also predicted trump would win in 2020.

media lite is aptly named. It's hungry for clicks it's a desperate bitch. Punch and delete. Its reporting is no more reliable than Aunt Fanny

[quote] Nate Silver, though a master poker player, scoffs at these betting markets.

And Nate Silver is an idiot, as has been proven time and time again.

[quote] Reading the comments it appears the author of this article writes these kinds of stories frequently. He also predicted trump would win in 2020.

Are you referring to Isaac Schorr or the Axios reporters, Mike Allen & Jim VandeHei, who penned the underlying article from which Mediaite based its story? Schorr's a Republican; Allen & VandeHei are not.

[quote]Who cares about what corporations think? It's the people that vote.

That's what they want you to believe.

[quote]Who cares about what corporations think? It's the people that vote.

Corporations are people.

Women and independents will make Harris the next president.

R35 is the idiot. He believes believes in betting markets. Lol.

[quote]media lite is aptly named.

Oh, dear. (It's Mediaite. No "l.")

Believes

*Another* troll post from troll OP

Oh, yay.

[quote] [R35] is the idiot. He believes believes in betting markets. Lol.

If you believe the betting markets are wrong, then you should be buying a ton of options on a Harris win.

Right now, they are putting a Harris win at 40%. Which means you put down $400 and get $1,000 if she wins.

So put your money down now.

[quote]These next 10 days are going to be chock full of this bullshit.

We are in the middle of a massive disinformation campaign. This phase is called "Act like you are going to win." But is that true?

If NC is slipping away, why does the GOP want the NC House to award the electoral votes to Trump? Why is Trump threatening everyone? Why are they stopping newspaper editorials? (Musk called his friend who owns the LATimes) Why are they so afraid that their cheating is being looked at--they registered 120,000 Amish in Penn when there are only 100,000.

The GOP doesn't know who's going to win, either.

All of this bad news certainly doesn’t make me feel excited to go out and vote. I’m gonna do it but I do not think bad news increases turnout. It inspires defeatism.

God, I don’t think I can get through another four years of Donald Trump.

Native Americans will be a key in keeping Arizona in our corner. Roevember 5th! We will defeat fascism!!

Democrats fretted after Obama's first debate in 2008, and insiders said it was over.

Democrats fretted in 2012 when the race was tied with Mitt and the hold God-damned [italic]New York Times[/italic] had it 48-47 right up to election day.

Democrats didn't fret in 2016.

Democrats fretted in 2020, even when it was 52 to 43.

See the pattern?

I can't even see OP which means it's some MAGA loser dog.

Like 2016, I didn’t fret at all in 2020. The Rust State polls last time all showed Biden comfortably ahead. And that was all Biden needed to win.

[quote] She's going to lose. Look at the money markets. They don't care about polls. The money knows. And it is now favoring Trump.

WTF?!!! The markets have hit historic highs since Harris was announced at the top of the ticket.

R58, the guy who keeps posting about markets is an idiot. There is no truth or logic in what he says.

R58, a few things:

The stock and bond markets are future indicators. They do not trade on the current economic situation. They trade on where things will be in 6 months. The stock market is up because it is seeing a Trump win and lower corporate taxes and and fewer regulations in the future. The bond market is selling off (higher yields/rates) because it sees a future with more government debt under Trump.

The other market is the actual political futures market, where a person can place a direct bet on who will win. Those markets are pricing a Harris win at about 40%.

This sounds a lot like that “red wave” which was widely forecasted in 2022.

There’s a hidden Kamala vote that’s not being captured in the polls.

That's the voter Liz Cheney to whom is appealing, R62. Telling non-MAGA Republicans they need not tell anyone they're voting for Harris.

[quote]They trade on where things will be in 6 months.

Tell us you don't have the first fucking clue how the stock market works without telling us you don't have the first fucking clue how the stock market works.

Tell me R64. You are clueless.

r60 is also:

*He's going to win*

[quote]You do realize that, right?

[quote]Prepare for it, because it's going to happen.

*Twitter blowing up about something big about to break against Trump*

[quote]Another nothing burger.

[quote]He's gonna win. Might as well prepare ourselves for it.

Such a retarded troll

You should not use the R-word, R66. It's very disrespectful.

Please stop this ridiculous whining and get to work. Harris has a small polling lead and an advanced ground game. this is a turnout election. If we get the turnout , we win. If you are in a swing state, please vote EARLY and urge (and help) other to vote early.

Fuck this nois e

[quote]If you are in a swing state, please vote EARLY and urge (and help) other to vote early.

I don’t understand why it’s so important to vote early? I’ve always voted on Election Day in person. Have since I was 18, and will be doing so this year. Vote whenever you want, the method doesn’t matter.

R69, the thinking is that if you vote as soon as possible, your vote is "in the bank" sooner and with 100% certainty from that point forward. Who knows what might happen on Election Day. What if there's some polling place malfunction, or shockingly long lines, or you get covid, or some personal/family life crisis, etc. It's better to get that vote in as soon as you can.

Ironic that you would use the word respect, r67.

How is it ironic?

It's something you obviously lack and don't deserve, r72. Are you retarded?

[quote] The stock and bond markets are future indicators. They do not trade on the current economic situation.

R60, stocks are bought and sold based on contemporaneous information. Stock markets react daily to economic news. Please provide a link that supports your commentary.

r74, the trolls we're getting this year are truly idiots. It's like their hearts aren't in it anymore.

Also, once you vote early, you're "crossed off the list" - the DNC no longer has to spend time trying to get you out to vote and can concentrate their efforts on those who haven't turned out yet

Then why do they send me upwards of 150 emails a day?

Many of our previous years' trolls are now permanently napping in Ukraine or are hiding out somewhere so that they don't have to

People who hear adverse predictions for their preferred candidate and decide not to bother to vote are either crazy or too dumb to vote. Who in their right might would think "My vote probably doesn't matter, so I'm going to make sure of it"?

I get that elections are emotional times, but for fuck's sake, stop and think a minute about what you're doing when you sit one out.

[R60], stocks are bought and sold based on contemporaneous information. Stock markets react daily to economic news. Please provide a link that supports your commentary.

Wrong.