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I’m sorry but look at Lyle Mendendez’s eyes!

Sorry but I see crazy in those eyes. Since he was young he had crazy in his eyes. It’s no surprise he was running the show and manipulated his soft brother.

Many people who knew him have said the same thing about Lyle, he was manipulative, especially of Erik. Smh.

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by Anonymousreply 167October 29, 2024 12:36 AM

You're sorry?

by Anonymousreply 1October 25, 2024 3:09 AM

These two are very scarry. People are so gullible.

by Anonymousreply 2October 25, 2024 3:11 AM

Too much energy in the expression, a ferocity

by Anonymousreply 3October 25, 2024 3:14 AM

The kind of guys you don’t take home to mom and dad.

by Anonymousreply 4October 25, 2024 3:16 AM

He has crazy eyes ues and he is crazy. Both are crazy. Many people have horrible parents but you dont shoot them dead.. both deserve to rot under the jail

by Anonymousreply 5October 25, 2024 3:19 AM

Depends, r4, on how much you like your parents

by Anonymousreply 6October 25, 2024 3:19 AM

I would totally murder Erik’s jailhouse mussy……again

by Anonymousreply 7October 25, 2024 3:24 AM

They’re con-artists. Always have been. They knew this new series would get people talking and ran with it, suddenly releasing messages through their families etc. young people today have no critical thinking skills. They’re smart guys (to an extent), I’m sure they know Gen Z is easy to manipulate, and ran with it.

Harvey Levin said he got word today that the guys are thrilled and are certain they’re getting out, already celebrating in prison. That doesn’t sit well with me that they’re so certain.

People call it “self defense” but this wasn’t that. They bought Mossbergs! It was GRUESOME. Lyle stole his old Princeton roommates ID while visiting and they bought the guns using his ID, with Erik forging the signature. They did this after daddy told them they were getting cut out of the will. They waited a few days for Saturday to come because the live-in maid was off on weekends and not there. It was PREMEDITATED. They then pumped 13 bullets into their parents. When they saw mom was still moving they went outside, reloaded the gun and blew her whole face off.

That’s “self defense”???? To Gen Z it is.

by Anonymousreply 8October 25, 2024 3:24 AM

You monsters! You maniacs!

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HIS EYES!!

by Anonymousreply 9October 25, 2024 3:27 AM

Well after murdering their parents they were out on the town spending their parents money and having a great time. That spells murderous psychopaths to me and they should spend the rest of their lives in prison without the possibility of parole. Otherwise they would have been in shock and incapable of enjoying anything.

Or people just experience grief in different ways.

by Anonymousreply 10October 25, 2024 3:33 AM

R8 I agree 100%. Let's also not forget that both brothers already had a troubling history of actions and escalating offenses before these murders even occurred.

1. Erik co-wrote a screenplay with his high school buddy with the characters killing their parents.

2. Both brothers were arrested for burglarizing the homes of their rich Calabasas neighbors, to the tune of grand theft since the total of stolen goods was over $100k in value. In embarrassment and probably looking out for his own ego/reputation, Jose covered it up by paying off the neighbors for the value of their stolen property, and made Erik take the entire fall for it legally since he was still a minor.

3. Lyle got busted for plagiarism at Princeton. While Princeton was going to expel him, Jose strong-armed the school to make it a one-year suspension. A disturbing pattern of these boys acting like spoiled assholes and getting bailed out by daddy, never to face consequences. Surely it gave them a sense of invincibility.

4. After the murders, there was evidence that the brothers tried to have the parents' PC wiped, for fear it might contain drafts of new wills disinheriting them. Plus, of course, the profligate spending they started doing on extravagant luxuries including a Porsche and Rolex watches, within days of the murders.

There is so much more to this story than allegations of abuse that could never be conclusively proven -- not then, not now -- because the purported abusers were blown away in a detailed, premeditated manner with 15 shotgun blasts as they relaxed on the sofa with ice cream. Fuck everyone who wants these asshole murderers out of prison, especially including Kim Kartrashian and the naive Rosie O'Donnell. I hope a judge exercises better judgment on this request and that this move costs the already massively unpopular Gascon re-election in a devastating electoral loss.

by Anonymousreply 11October 25, 2024 3:38 AM

Whatever the father did, they were grown men. They could leave and never return. They are both cunning and crazy, one appears psychopathic and the other histrionic or borderline.

by Anonymousreply 12October 25, 2024 3:44 AM

Also, whatever their father did, their mother did not also do. They have no legal excuse for having murdered her in cold blood.

by Anonymousreply 13October 25, 2024 3:45 AM

OP, aka TeaFake (you misspelled the last name also in a different post), you were praising their release as Princess Akeem. What does Mao think? What does BlackMussy think?

by Anonymousreply 14October 25, 2024 3:51 AM

R11 don’t forget that Lyle only got into Princeton because daddy donated tons of money to the school to get him in. They denied him the first time and then again the second time but daddy wasn’t having it that second time and paid his sons way into Princeton.

He also bought Lyle a beautiful condo in the area because he didn’t wanna stay living in the dorms. Jose and Kitty also furnished and decorated his new condo gifted to him. After he was suspended from Princeton he could have still lived in his condo but chose to go back home. If it was so bad why did he go back all the time? “To save Erik” as Gen Z says. No.

by Anonymousreply 15October 25, 2024 4:00 AM

He does look like he has a busted spring. Both of them calculated the murder of their parents and then lived it up. I have no doubt Lyle came up with the plan and his brother followed right along. I wouldn't doubt it if their lawyer put the sex abuse defense in their heads. They said they killed them because they were afraid. Such bullshit. I watched both trials and always felt like they killed them for the money. You have to be fucking deranged to blow your parent away then reload and kill the other one. Fucking sickening.

by Anonymousreply 16October 25, 2024 4:03 AM

He has the same eyes as most of my ex-boyfriends. I sure have a type.

by Anonymousreply 17October 25, 2024 4:04 AM

Like a cocker spaniel puppy. You just want him to lick ya ALL OVER!

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by Anonymousreply 18October 25, 2024 4:05 AM

I wudz likes tu makes luv to da Menendenedendenezez bruthas.

Mafuckin!

by Anonymousreply 19October 25, 2024 4:07 AM

Erik could have left and moved into the condo. They could have survived. Poor people flee abuse and survive. This pair are crazy and wanted the house, cars, money and watches.

by Anonymousreply 20October 25, 2024 4:10 AM

I think it's more rich Hollywood kid syndrome than insanity or abuse.

I do believe the older brother had an axe to grind with his parents, keeping him from spending all of their money as he liked and partying.

They both wanted all the money and were sick of not having any say over it.

by Anonymousreply 21October 25, 2024 4:11 AM

They killed their mother, not just their father, and the plot was set so they could get the estate.

What shit.

Sexual abuse does not excuse first degree homicide.

by Anonymousreply 22October 25, 2024 4:14 AM

They look like James Carville and his delightful wife. 😅

by Anonymousreply 23October 25, 2024 4:14 AM

If they just killed their father they probably would have walked away with a low manslaughter charge. Them killing their mother is what causes the real discourse. Even in some comments I see from people who want them to stay locked up, they mention “they killed their mother”. That’s what really upsets people. Many don’t believe she did anything to them outside of possibly knowing what was happening and turning a blind eye, as many women did then. But who knows what really happened.

by Anonymousreply 24October 25, 2024 4:17 AM

His eyes look fine

by Anonymousreply 25October 25, 2024 4:19 AM

Another fact is two days after killing their father Erik showed up to Live Entertainment to collect the $5 million dollar life insurance for his father’s death. Yes, TWO DAYS later. That Monday.

When Jose got that CEO position at Live Entertainment a life insurance was placed on him. It is called the Key Man Policy, the highest and most important man in the company/business has life insurance for the company, so if anything happens to him the company gets whatever amount the insurance was for. In this case, if Jose dies Live Entertainment gets $15 million dollars to help stay afloat and pay people etc. he had a separate Life Insurance for family that was worth $5 million. When he died the business got their $15 million but Erik and Lyle didn’t get their $5 million like they expected.

In order for the life insurance to be in effect Jose would have to take a physical and get blood work done etc. Because they were two different insurances he would have to do two different tests. He did the first one already, putting the $15 million dollar insurance for the business into effect, but was scheduled to go do the tests for the family insurance that Tuesday. He was murdered the Saturday before that Tuesday. He never got to go do the exams etc. necessary for the family insurance to go into effect so Erik and Lyle didn’t get the $5 million they expected. If only the fucking dipshits waiting until the following weekend.

But Erik murdering his father on Saturday and then showing up to his business Monday morning to college $5 million? Tell me that isn’t fishy.

by Anonymousreply 26October 25, 2024 4:27 AM

Don't know about the eyes but his smile looks familar.

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by Anonymousreply 27October 25, 2024 4:40 AM

This is becoming a serious issue.Should they be retried or resentenced? Were they really sexually abused? Were the parents planning to kill them? With the most important question of all being: Which brother has the biggest dick?

by Anonymousreply 28October 25, 2024 4:52 AM

R28. Not to be confused with Ketty Lester...

by Anonymousreply 29October 25, 2024 5:27 AM

R14 Bitch I didn’t make this thread. Everyone knows I am BlackMussy.

Muriel.

by Anonymousreply 30October 25, 2024 5:32 AM

Menendez bros need to be release but psycho R30 needs to be locked up and the key thrown away.

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by Anonymousreply 31October 25, 2024 5:40 AM

R31 I said what I said and the operators of the site know In telling the truth. Carry on cunt.

by Anonymousreply 32October 25, 2024 5:54 AM

R31. That image is much too handsome to be MussyCake

by Anonymousreply 33October 25, 2024 5:56 AM

R32. What time do you start work in the morning?

by Anonymousreply 34October 25, 2024 5:59 AM

R34 You handle your coins and I’m a handle mine. I’m living the good life.

by Anonymousreply 35October 25, 2024 6:01 AM

R35. So you lied about your "new" job. Cool.

by Anonymousreply 36October 25, 2024 6:08 AM

R36 I didn’t lie about shit. Get off your obsession with me. You don’t need to know what I do. I’m sick of telling all my personal business.

by Anonymousreply 37October 25, 2024 6:12 AM

[quote] Sexual abuse does not excuse first degree homicide

If Janie can get a gun, so can the Menendez brothers.

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by Anonymousreply 38October 25, 2024 6:21 AM

R37. Then fuckin' STOP!

by Anonymousreply 39October 25, 2024 6:31 AM

On the flip side, kids aren’t raised in a vacuum. What kind of parents must you be if your kids unanimously agree you should be dead. Multiple family members “made it very clear that not only that there might have been sexual molestation, but they say this is a very dysfunctional, very.

Maybe mom preferred Dad sleeping with the boys instead of cheating on her with another woman. Who the fuck knows what was going on. Maybe the parents were the monsters.

by Anonymousreply 40October 25, 2024 6:40 AM

^ full quote from judge:

multiple family members “made it very clear that not only that there might have been sexual molestation, but they say this is a very dysfunctional, very abusive home, and it was so for many years,”

by Anonymousreply 41October 25, 2024 6:41 AM

Maybe the parents used the threat of losing money, of constantly being cutoff, using it as a form of blackmail the kids entire lives as a means to get away with sexual abuse. Maybe it was just understood you get nothing if you don’t do what I say, what I want, if you tell anyone.

That would explain the fuck you of blowing through tons of money after blowing their heads off. One sociopath of a kid, maybe. But raise two and that is definitely on you and what you did as a parent.

by Anonymousreply 42October 25, 2024 6:45 AM

For the rumor of sexual abuse to rise to the level of extended families hearing about it and not dismissing it, the mother definitely knew about. She probably walked in on it. And for a child, suffering that kind of terrible abuse is a nightmare, but to know on top of it your mother has turned her back on you and doesn’t protect you. They mother could have escaped with her children, but she didn’t. So it’s not likely the kids, barely adults themselves are just going to walk away, escape when they can. In their mind, leaving the home is not escaping.

And the parents taught their kids to prose a lifestyle over all else, even their own safety and protection. I think a strong case could be made that the parents, monsters themselves through neglect and abuse of their own children created their very own undoing.

by Anonymousreply 43October 25, 2024 6:57 AM

Prize not prose…

by Anonymousreply 44October 25, 2024 6:58 AM

Readjusting to life on the outside won't be easy for the poor orphans; but at least they'll have each other.

/s

by Anonymousreply 45October 25, 2024 7:06 AM

My guess is that Lyle will re-offend, if released. Not necessarily murder, but l don't think he can stay out of trouble.

by Anonymousreply 46October 25, 2024 7:20 AM

I would imagine that would be the case R46. Again they were raised to believe lifestyle over all else. And they will be instant celebrities in this crazy new social media world. They won't be able to resist the celebrity and the promise of money that comes with it.

by Anonymousreply 47October 25, 2024 7:23 AM

I think America is actually more curious to see how they react. We like anything that reaffirms how advanced and progressive we are. It's like a social experiment, dropping these two people off from the last century smack dab in the middle of the 2020s. Not that they have been completely unaware of the progress, but they have never experienced it at the level we have. Especially two educated, formerly rich and privileged "white" men. People want to see how that unfolds. Does modern society destroy us or it it something to celebrate?

by Anonymousreply 48October 25, 2024 7:29 AM

If Lyle is released into the wild, these brain-dead TikTok 'tards should be forced to live with him.

by Anonymousreply 49October 25, 2024 10:11 AM

"Daddy sent me up to my room and told me to stay there and wait for him, and that there was going to be sex." --18yo Erik

by Anonymousreply 50October 25, 2024 10:13 AM

[Quote]The kind of guys you don’t take home to mom and dad.

Hey, that's a little harsh! We tend to blow parents away.

by Anonymousreply 51October 25, 2024 11:35 AM

The younger brother always seemed gay to me and like John Revolta looks part Coyote.

by Anonymousreply 52October 25, 2024 12:51 PM

R28 “were the parents planning on killing them?”

Jose and Kitty were lounging on their sofa watching tv and half asleep when attacked by their sons. I don’t believe for a second that their parents were planning on murdering them.

Leslie Abramson specialized in getting young men who murdered off by claiming they were raped and molested. Her trial right before this one was a young man who murdered and she used the rape thing to get him off. This was part of why many didn’t believe them. It can’t just be a coincidence numerous cases she has were young men raped who murdered.

by Anonymousreply 53October 25, 2024 1:00 PM

R40 lmao money leads people to do crazy shit. You can be a sweet and caring person and your child still comes out fucked in the head somehow. Things aren’t as black and white as many people think.

When you raise spoiled entitled assholes, they tend to become little monsters on their own.

by Anonymousreply 54October 25, 2024 1:03 PM

R52 we’ve gone through this numerous times on here.

by Anonymousreply 55October 25, 2024 1:05 PM
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by Anonymousreply 56October 25, 2024 1:10 PM

The 2nd trial Was a travesty. Awful. Thats now known. That judge was ridiculous. And they have spent a long time in jail. The abuse did happen. This seems like a fair resolve. Theyre not getting off scott free.

by Anonymousreply 57October 25, 2024 1:18 PM

The abuse ALLEGEDLY happened. There is ZERO proof of it. Just family members claiming things.

The second trial was a travesty thanks to… LYLE MENENDEZ. His voluntary recordings to that woman who then sold him out made them look bad. On top of that he sent out letters to friends and family members training them on what to say during the second trial, telling them to say he told them about the abuse years ago etc. after this the Judge decided to not allow the sexual abuse allegations in the second trial.

People love bringing up how the judge didn’t allow the sexual abuse testimonies in the second trial but no one mentions WHY.

That’s also why Lyle decided not to take the stand during the second trial. He knew he fucked up badly NUMEROUS TIMES and ruined it for Erik in the process

by Anonymousreply 58October 25, 2024 1:30 PM

The people who are stanning this pair and calling them victims are probably the "Free Britney" mob. And here we are today, with Britney twerking and stripping and molesting her hooters on Instagram because they got her her "freedom".

by Anonymousreply 59October 25, 2024 1:56 PM

I don't think his eyes are weird. I just think he looks like an idiot which is what they both are. But I also believe that they were abused. Why? Because just like what others have said what family raises two murderers? I had dysfunctional parents too- one of whom I hate to this day- but I never thought about killing them or harming them because my parents still raised me to respect them no matter what. If that kept me from killing them then so be it. The Mendendez boys were molded into being killers by years of various abuse. But explaining a crime doesn't dismiss it. Cold blood is cold blood. But you have to kill Kitty. She is the most guilty of all because she failed to protect her children which was her duty as a parent. See if they had been better parents- not social climber or material addicts- maybe they would still be alive today. But when you teach your kids the wrong morals all the time don't be surprised if it comes back and shoots you in the head.

by Anonymousreply 60October 25, 2024 1:57 PM

They murdered their parents for their money. They murdered their parents with motive. That isn’t the same as raising two serial killers. Stop asking “who raises murderers”? There is a difference between a Ted Bundy murderer and them. They’re murderers but murdered two specific targets with reason. It wasn’t someone running around finding victims.

by Anonymousreply 61October 25, 2024 2:07 PM

Eyes are too intense! Red flag 🚩

by Anonymousreply 62October 25, 2024 2:08 PM

R61, no one is saying they were random killers. It’s quite the opposite. What parents raise not one but TWO kids who decide to blow their heads off with shotguns while they’re watching TV? That’s far from a normal family. And it doesn’t just happen in a vacuum.

by Anonymousreply 63October 26, 2024 12:20 AM

One was gay the other bald, can you blame them?

by Anonymousreply 64October 26, 2024 12:27 AM

Besides them saying they were molested, was or is there any corroborating proof?

by Anonymousreply 65October 26, 2024 1:51 AM

R65 nope. Only the testimonies of others. And now the letter from Erik to his cousin that was found

by Anonymousreply 66October 26, 2024 2:10 AM

R66 the testimonies of others saying what?

by Anonymousreply 67October 26, 2024 2:20 AM

Much of the family have co-signed their claims.

by Anonymousreply 68October 26, 2024 2:23 AM

Very strange genetics going on here… usually, if one brother goes bald, the other one is also afflicted.

Two fathers?

by Anonymousreply 69October 26, 2024 2:32 AM

R69 Kitty probably was ho-big because Erik’s sexy ass looks like neither parent.

by Anonymousreply 70October 26, 2024 2:36 AM

R69 wtf. Not how genetics work at all. What is wrong with you?

by Anonymousreply 71October 26, 2024 2:39 AM

Assuming they fucked each other, who was the top?

by Anonymousreply 72October 26, 2024 2:41 AM

Uncle Fester eyes.

by Anonymousreply 73October 26, 2024 2:45 AM

Killer eyes

Who poses like that for mug shots besides insane murderers???

by Anonymousreply 74October 26, 2024 2:46 AM

R74 We’ll they aren’t claiming to be OJ. The gloves fit.

by Anonymousreply 75October 26, 2024 3:36 AM

r67 What the fuck do you think, dumbass?

by Anonymousreply 76October 26, 2024 4:52 AM

R69 Always thought Lyle looked slightly inbred. One has to wonder.

by Anonymousreply 77October 26, 2024 5:55 AM

R57 Agree. They served their debt to society. Majority of both families went them free. The second trial was a violation of their rights if you ask me. The judge was corrupt. There's too much attention on them to reoffend, they'll become the male Gypsy Rose and get canceled and sell drugs or snort them, who cares. Let time judge them outside of the tax payers' dime.

by Anonymousreply 78October 26, 2024 5:58 AM

Erik is kinda hot.

by Anonymousreply 79October 26, 2024 6:03 AM

[Quote]Assuming they fucked each other, who was the top?

Lyle was definitely topping Erik.

by Anonymousreply 80October 26, 2024 10:27 AM

I always thought Lyle admitting to molesting Erik was the clincher that they were being honest.

by Anonymousreply 81October 26, 2024 2:36 PM

I'm sorry, OP, but Erik and I are coming for a visit very soon.

Freedom will be sweet.

by Anonymousreply 82October 26, 2024 2:43 PM

I don’t know which one is which, but brother on the left looks like a sociopath; brother on the right is the psychopath.

by Anonymousreply 83October 26, 2024 3:12 PM

I love all these people asking what other proof was there of molestarono besides their word. What other proof word there be? Eye witness testimony from the neighbors? Didn’t someone else come forward, a band member from Menudo, and say Jose raped him when he was the head oF RCA in the 80s?

by Anonymousreply 84October 26, 2024 10:50 PM

^Molestation

by Anonymousreply 85October 26, 2024 10:51 PM

Yes, the boy from Menudo said publicly that Jose Menendez drugged and viciously raped him at his home in New Jersey. He said Lyle and Erik were in the house, that they looked sad and vacant. The brothers also remember the encounter. One of the group's managers pimped the kids out.

by Anonymousreply 86October 27, 2024 3:03 AM

This is news? A few years ago there was a docu-series on MAX about Menudo and how many of the boys were being raped (not all).

by Anonymousreply 87October 27, 2024 3:06 AM

You just know they’ve seen crazy shit in prison.

by Anonymousreply 88October 27, 2024 3:27 AM

[quote]This is news?

It is now because of "Monsters" and the spotlight being focused on Lyle and Erik. The relatives have reappeared with new revelations as well. Together with other evidence the brothers might be out soon.

by Anonymousreply 89October 27, 2024 3:37 AM

I'm shocked at how many people here still believe that the "abuse excuse" is a thing. Where's this energy for Gypsy Rose Blanchard? Fact is sexual abuse of boys was NOT accepted back then. There are corroborating letters, accounts from cousins, and the kid from Menudo. What got me was seeing the psychiatrist who evaluated them say in a docu "There's more to this story...these kids just don't kill their parents without something troubling going on in the house." Don't forget Dominick Dunne's widespread reporting that they DID make it up is deeply influenced by his own closeted shame and self-hate, he grew up with his dad beating him and calling him a sissy. Even Dunne after Lyle's testimony said "Maybe I got this wrong." They have paid their debt to society and have exemplary records in prison, earning degrees, no bad records. Not like other truly psycho offender i.e. Michael "Party Monster" Alig who kept getting put in solitary and his sentence extended for bad behavior. Come on!

by Anonymousreply 90October 27, 2024 3:37 AM

And Alig, who murdered and dismantled his drug dealer before tossing him in the Hudson River, got out in, what,13 years?

by Anonymousreply 91October 27, 2024 3:46 AM

or "dismembered" lol

by Anonymousreply 92October 27, 2024 3:47 AM

There is ONE letter. ONE that mentions the abuse. And it was found in 2024. Some argue if it’s even legitimate

by Anonymousreply 93October 27, 2024 3:51 AM

R91, Alug served 17 years and was dead six years later. Crazy how you can handle all those years in prison yet life in the real world is what kills you.

by Anonymousreply 94October 27, 2024 10:30 AM

R93 the one letter and the admission of another boy being raped by the father.

by Anonymousreply 95October 27, 2024 10:35 AM

R95 certainly not enough proof to let people off for blowing their fathers brains out and mothers whole face off. Especially the latter.

by Anonymousreply 96October 27, 2024 11:08 AM

Abused or not. Their adult asses killed BOTH parents with shotguns THEN as soon as they could went on a shopping spree. PUH-LEEZE.

by Anonymousreply 97October 27, 2024 11:18 AM

When ALL your children grow up to be murders by 18, pretty sure it's a parenting problem.

Odd that people expected them to have been taught life lessons of honestly, humanity, self reliance, decency, and adult level decision making that they could have just called the police or walked away when their parents were doing the exact opposite of that to them their entire life.

It's like the burning bed movie where the victim became the the abuser, why didn't she just walk away? Why did she have to set him on fire? Aren't there women's shelters? Same argument.

by Anonymousreply 98October 27, 2024 12:09 PM

R96, How old are you? How old were you when the Menendez brother’s went to jail? 30 years served is hardly letting someone off for murder. There a people who have served far less for much worse.

Like Michael Alig above who murdered, bleached, mutilated and packed up his drug dealer in a suitcase and threw him in the East river. Michael was about the same age as the Menendez brothers. They all went to jail about the same time. Michael got out ten years ago.

by Anonymousreply 99October 27, 2024 12:26 PM

Lyle doesn't look as insane in this pic. Interesting article.

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by Anonymousreply 100October 27, 2024 12:28 PM

Actually R99 I was about a year or two older than they were at the time. I remember it well. I lived in Hollywood at the time and drove past BH every day to Santa Monica for work. I am not arguing for them to stay in prison, they served their time. I am trying to make the point with other people of my age group who are still stuck in the past with that attitude of it was all fake or why didn't they just walk away. People who say that with the moral conviction of the church lady just dont understand life long abuse and how it stunts the growth to adulthood among many other things. When your abuse is your roll model and parent who is already teaching about breaking norms and laws as acceptable behavior, how is that child going to grow up NOT thinking that's how the world works?

Why didn't they just eat cake if they didn't have bread = Why didn't they just walk away since they were adults - Same stupid argument.

by Anonymousreply 101October 27, 2024 12:45 PM

Zzzzzz they EASILY could have left r101. They had more resources than most yet poor people make it happen all the time. Why couldn’t they? Daddy bought Lyle a condo by Princeton. Why wasn’t he living there if things were so bad? Instead he always came back to stay with mommy and daddy. He was 21.

It’s all bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 102October 27, 2024 1:09 PM

What "resources" did they have R102? Please list them since you seem to know this. The parents controlled everything, they didn't have money or jobs or connections without it all being linked to the abusive father. Who do you think owned that condo? All in his fathers control. He came back to save his little brother. You people that are so churchy really cant see beyond the headlines of the time.

by Anonymousreply 103October 27, 2024 1:48 PM

Lyle had been suspended from Princeton, he was forced to move back in with his parents. So obviously he didnt have the resources to stay away from his abusive controlling father.

by Anonymousreply 104October 27, 2024 1:52 PM

Sometimes you the only kind of abuser who can’t victimize any longer is a dead one. They were abused by their father and abused by their mother through neglect.

by Anonymousreply 105October 27, 2024 2:05 PM

R105 Lyle wanted to make sure that bitch never snatched another wig again.

by Anonymousreply 106October 27, 2024 2:18 PM

I know it’s another world but he had an extended family and some friends. He could have asked to live with them. He could have gotten a job as a waiter to support himself. He could have joined the army. That’s what poor boys used to do to escape lousy homes.

by Anonymousreply 107October 27, 2024 2:23 PM

It’s sad when you gotta give up your mussy to your own dad for the inheritance. They should have just poisoned them not shot them.

by Anonymousreply 108October 27, 2024 2:29 PM

R107, it’s not just about physically getting away. Their father was a child molester who slept with his own kids for years. Do you really think it’s JUST about getting out of the house? There are people who didn’t even live in the same house as their molesters who have gone back and killed then because of the trauma they experienced. And if your own mother isn’t going to help you - what hope do you have that your Aunt or Uncle would? You can’t even tell them what’s happening.

Of course not every abuse victim kills their victimizer. But when it does happen, as a society we tend to understand why it happened and don’t send the victims away for 30 years for it - at least not anymore.

by Anonymousreply 109October 27, 2024 3:08 PM

Well the one person he told was a younger cousin who eventually killed himself with an overdose years later because he regretted not telling his parents what Eric had confided in him. Lets be honest, it was such a different world even just being openly gay was pushing it. There was no Will and Grace on TV yet, no gay marriage, no gay right, we still had don't ask don't tell. So you expect boys being molested at age 7 to feel safe explaining the gay sex they were having with their father as the reason they want to leave their parents? They didnt even know it was wrong at that age. They grew up thinking it was something you had to do.

As for joining the military, that takes a cretin kind of person even consider that and they were being groomed by their father to be in politics and to be world class athletes. And most guy who do that to escape families are not doing it to avoid child molestation, usually about poverty or single parents. One could make the same excuse about battered woman, why dont they sign up to the military? See how ridiculous that argument sounds?

by Anonymousreply 110October 27, 2024 3:12 PM

Most women who are sexually abused by dad/step dad do leave.. They become teen runaways and often sex workers.But trauma is dealt with differently. Not an easy choice.

by Anonymousreply 111October 27, 2024 3:52 PM

Many not most…

by Anonymousreply 112October 27, 2024 3:57 PM

R108. What an ignorant statement. Please keep quiet.

by Anonymousreply 113October 27, 2024 4:54 PM

Not the same R111. Lets talk about women sexually abused by their MOTHER. Someone of the same sex who is their parent. It sends very confusing messages in the formative years of life.

by Anonymousreply 114October 27, 2024 11:30 PM

Are you joking? LYLE DID NOT LIVE ON PRINCETON CAMPUS.

As stated, LYLE MENENDEZ WAS BOUGHT A CONDO NEAR PRINCETON. Lyle did not need to be enrolled in Princeton to stay at the condo that was bought for him. In real life, he was constantly back and forth between NJ/NY and Beverly Hills. He flew back and forth all the time after being suspended to spend time with friends and his fiancé lives in NJ. In real life he had a fiancé during this time.

Why would he have to leave NJ because he was suspended? Please already. At least look into the reality before commenting

by Anonymousreply 115October 27, 2024 11:35 PM

I suspect Lyle would have found a waiting job beneath him.

by Anonymousreply 116October 27, 2024 11:36 PM

What the condo in his name R115? NO IT WAS NOT. So daddy could pull the stings all he wanted. Did he have money of his own to pay for that? NO he did not, credit cards all paid for and controlled by his father. And if you bothered to do research, both the mother and father made his girlfriend hit the road. The mother didn't want any woman to come into that family, all she was concerned about was keeping the family money.

by Anonymousreply 117October 27, 2024 11:52 PM

Just like you age with the face you deserve, you raise the kids you deserve.

by Anonymousreply 118October 27, 2024 11:54 PM

R117 it was bought for him and he stayed there every time he was in NJ/NY. 😂 you’re a fucking joke

by Anonymousreply 119October 27, 2024 11:55 PM

You must have comprehension issues R119, the point is he DID NOT OWN the place. ERGO he could not sell it and live off the money or leave his parents. His father was in control of all the money. So to say he could just walk away and had privilege to do so has been debunked.

by Anonymousreply 120October 28, 2024 12:13 AM

If it was bought for him it could have been placed in his name. Look into it. Stop with the fucking bullshit. He was 21. If he could afford to stay traveling back and forth and travel with his fiancé while out of college he could afford to get another place. The end.

by Anonymousreply 121October 28, 2024 12:15 AM

@R93 there is a whole lot more evidence than that which you can read compiled here

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by Anonymousreply 122October 28, 2024 1:17 AM

[quote]If it was bought for him it could have been placed in his name. Look into it. Stop with the fucking bullshit. He was 21. If he could afford to stay traveling back and forth and travel with his fiancé while out of college he could afford to get another place. The end.

What part of it NOT IN HIS NAME do you not understand about Real Estate? The only money he had was Credit Cards controlled by his father.

by Anonymousreply 123October 28, 2024 1:26 AM

And DADDY never stopped him from doing anything else. Ever. So why is this suddenly an excuse? Enough with the made up bullshit excuses. GET A JOB. HE WAS 21!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 124October 28, 2024 1:28 AM

@R97 Amanda Knox did cartwheels, acted happy, and didn't call police after her roommate in Italy was murdered. DNA and fingerprints revealed Rudy Guede was the killer. So behavior after the crime is an unreliable indicator of what went on

by Anonymousreply 125October 28, 2024 1:29 AM

Now I know you are a troll with a simpleton mentality since you think those boys had all that freedom. Look up the facts, their father controlled everything, nothing they did was without what he told them they could do. By the way, we were in the middle of a rescission back then, everyone in LA was laying off people not hiring them. I was there, I remember.

If you are not a troll prove me wrong, show me a document where either of the boys own their own property. Show me a document that shows they had money in the bank in their name and not the father. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

by Anonymousreply 126October 28, 2024 1:36 AM

@R124 Daddy never stopped him from doing anything else? I have something to tell you about accepting stress induced hair loss/going with a buzz cut when your hair falls out...

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by Anonymousreply 127October 28, 2024 1:38 AM

Boys. 21 years old. 21. I’m so sick of the fucking excuses. This has to be a joke. A 21 year old “BOY” had no freedom to move out and get a job. Nope. None.

by Anonymousreply 128October 28, 2024 1:38 AM

When I was 21 I was working a full time job on top of college. But Lyle was just a little boy who had zero freedom to leave. None. Only all the times he did leave to travel with his gf/fiancé and friends from Princeton. All the times he stayed in NJ and NYC. All the times he traveled abroad. But nope, no freedom to get a job.

by Anonymousreply 129October 28, 2024 1:40 AM

R129 OK BOOMER.

by Anonymousreply 130October 28, 2024 1:40 AM

^^Sorry, that was for R128.

by Anonymousreply 131October 28, 2024 1:41 AM

Subjects that bring out idiots on DL:

True crime

Child abuse

Sex abuse

This thread has it all.

by Anonymousreply 132October 28, 2024 1:42 AM

They served over 30 years. I don’t get what’s the grief. Drug leaders who murder other drug dealers have gotten less time. Their parents were abusers.

by Anonymousreply 133October 28, 2024 1:43 AM

You obviously dont understand extreme abuse and psychology. Those were boys because they were not raised right. Did they do childish things? Spend money recklessly? Of course because MOMMY AND DADDY taught them this behavior was ok. No one spawns TWO children that grow up to murder them unless there was something seriously wrong with both parents.

by Anonymousreply 134October 28, 2024 1:46 AM

It’s a boomer mentality to expect a 21 year old to get a job? Seriously?

by Anonymousreply 135October 28, 2024 1:46 AM

Actually it is in this context when you fail to account for the abusive controlling history. "get a job" is a shallow simplistic slogan of the entitled ME generation.

by Anonymousreply 136October 28, 2024 1:48 AM

R134 you CONTINUOUSLY stating “ No one spawns TWO children that grow up to murder” changes nothing. Many people with much less access to anything have escaped abusive parents or partners without murder. Fact is their parents were watching tv when they attacked them. They made a whole plan and picked a certain day. These are FACTS.

But keep drinking that fake internet kool-aid that they had no choice. It’s a lie.

by Anonymousreply 137October 28, 2024 1:50 AM

R136 there is nothing simple or shallow about getting a job. You’re an adult. Get a fucking job. You hate dad? Move out. Get a job. There you go. Many of us did it.

by Anonymousreply 138October 28, 2024 1:50 AM

Homeless - Get a Job US Vet - Get a Job Abused Child - Get a Job

The Boomer answer to all the worlds problems.

by Anonymousreply 139October 28, 2024 1:51 AM

Yes R 138, but were you also forced to suck daddy's cock and swallow his load starting at the age of 7? And when you told mom she didnt believe you or do anything to stop it?

by Anonymousreply 140October 28, 2024 1:52 AM

[quote]CONTINUOUSLY stating “ No one spawns TWO children that grow up to murder”

Yes because you still can't seem to answer that annoying fact of reality. You keep trying to gaslight us that all they had to do was get a job.

by Anonymousreply 141October 28, 2024 1:54 AM

They murdered their parents. That’s it. Why? Because they wanted to take over the estate.

by Anonymousreply 142October 28, 2024 2:02 AM

Why? because they wanted to stop the real monsters from continuing to control them. It's that simple.

Ever notice how Boomers every concept of how the world works only revolves around money? They cant imagine that other factors go into any other situation not around money. So simplistic, so shallow. But we knew that because Daddy was a Boomer as well.

by Anonymousreply 143October 28, 2024 2:15 AM

[bold]The Menendez Brothers actually did society a favor.[/bold] Lets just say for the sake of argument they did move out and murders never happened. Their father, the head of RCA at the time and MOLESTING other BOYS in boy bands like Menudo would have gone unchecked and unpunished. How many other boys would he have molested? How many men's lives would he have ruined?

by Anonymousreply 144October 28, 2024 2:20 AM

R143 your entire comment is ridiculous. It’s actually sad to know that a grown man took the time to type that up, read it, and posted it thinking they did something.

Those two boys whole mindset was money. Today’s young people only care about money. Don’t try blaming boomers. Greed is far more prevalent now than ever. Look at the corporations etc. let’s not play our self now. You’re a joke around here, with accounts cosplaying as a black stereotype and teacake. It’s weird. And then you post shit like this? A joke.

by Anonymousreply 145October 28, 2024 2:32 AM

You have it “so hard”? Move out. That’s what being an adult is.

by Anonymousreply 146October 28, 2024 2:32 AM

^^ OK BOOMER.

by Anonymousreply 147October 28, 2024 3:31 AM

Sorry R145, Not Teacake or whoever you think I am. You would know that if you bothered to check history. But then you would know you are wrong if you bothered to look into the history of the Menendez case.

by Anonymousreply 148October 28, 2024 3:33 AM

R147 you feeling someone getting a job is a boomer thing shows just how lazy, entitled, and mostly uneducated you are. Definitely Gen Z. I heard you were born in 2005? What kind of young person sits on here all day?

by Anonymousreply 149October 28, 2024 3:42 AM

Wrong again R149. I am a lot older and wiser than you will ever be.

Let me speak to you in Boomer language so you understand. You are failing upwards because you can't think outside the box, we are not going to agree to disagree, because you lack the ability to push the envelop of your knowledge of the case. You forgot that dress for success does not work on the DL when your first impression is your last.

by Anonymousreply 150October 28, 2024 4:08 AM

R150 you’re older and wiser but saying “Ok Boomer” over and over again?

by Anonymousreply 151October 28, 2024 4:10 AM

I am not a Boomer and I am not Gen Z. Unlike Boomers stuck in their ways, I have the ability to see what works from each gen and it did exactly what I wanted. Getting under your skin you have basically confirms you are an old fart stuck in his ways with no ability to look a problem with fresh eyes. I see you have totally skirted my question about proving those boys had financial resources not controlled by their abuser. Still waiting.

by Anonymousreply 152October 28, 2024 4:18 AM

“What works”

Getting a job and making money to move out works.

by Anonymousreply 153October 28, 2024 4:25 AM

R148 Some of these fools have become so obsessed with me that anytime they have a different point of view with any poster on ANY subject matter, they think it’s me. Muriel is laughing all the way to the bank.

by Anonymousreply 154October 28, 2024 4:30 AM

R153 = Broken Record. Greed is good, get a job, pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

Now repeat that every night before bed and you too can think like a Boomer. It's the answer to all of life's questions. Straight out of the Boomer bible of quotes which is is pretty small.

by Anonymousreply 155October 28, 2024 4:59 AM

Dad was such a nice guy, calling his son a little fa-gg-t at the same time he was forcing him to swallow his load.

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by Anonymousreply 156October 28, 2024 5:17 AM

I don't think most of us can imagine what that level of abuse does to a person. My only experience with trauma that had a significant effect on my personality was losing pets in a traumatic way. When I was a kid my mom gave me a kitten for my eighth birthday. When the cat was about nine months old she gave birth to a litter of kittens and it was the most wonderful feeling in my life. I came home from school everyday looking forward to seeing those kittens. One day a guy shows up from an animal shelter and starts stuffing the mother cat and kittens in a wire cage, the mother struggled and the kittens were panicking too. My mother never said a word to me, I had no warning and she never said a word of apology or comfort. After that wasn't able to bond with any pets and before that I loved animals. I ws 65 years old before I could finally truly enjoy my pets again. I wasn't really conscious of all that until I was 65. I think it's amazing the damage we carry and how it effects us. I felt completely alone the day that guy took my pets and I realized I couldn't trust my mom.

by Anonymousreply 157October 28, 2024 5:33 AM

Wasn't the question always if they were telling the truth about the abuse or were they coached by the defense attorney? Sounds like the jury didn't believe their story.

by Anonymousreply 158October 28, 2024 6:03 AM

Wrong, half the jury did believe them, that's why they could not come to an agreement and it ended in a hung jury. Not surprisingly, all the men in the jury didn't believe him, all the woman did. All the abuse allegations and evidence was not allowed in the second trial, so they convicted without having the same facts as the first one. For reference, it was the same time as the AIDS outbreak, being gay was still a very big stigma. Priests molestation of hundreds of alter boys was very big then too and none of it was believed at first.

by Anonymousreply 159October 28, 2024 6:59 AM

R157, I know exactly how you feel. My dad did something like that with my dog without warning. Took him to be put to sleep and lied to me saying he had gone mad and was foaming at the mouth. But when I ask how he got him there he said he sat in the front seat of his truck. So the dog suddenly snapped but ok with a car ride? Then he tried to say it was up to the vet. But I was smart enough to call the vet from a pay phone and he just said my father brought him in to be put down, he was not aware of any medical issue. I was so hurt by that, to this day I have not had another dog or cat since then. It's been decades. I just cant take the heart break.

The worst part was, I was taking such good care of the dog so there was no excuse about parents doing all the work. I am sure my mom was in on that decision too. She was afraid of bigger dogs even though she grew up on a farm.

by Anonymousreply 160October 28, 2024 7:12 AM

Jesus, this thread is about ME and my bro, not your dead pets and troll issues you bunch of …

Catch you on the flipside

by Anonymousreply 161October 28, 2024 7:53 AM

R98 Bullshit. You're assuming that their accusations are true.

IRREGARDLESS (yes, I know that's not a word)

They were mature enough to commit a premeditated crime and then try to cover it up by establishing alibis. I wonder if you would be so forgiving if these guys were from Compton. Just putting THAT out there.

by Anonymousreply 162October 28, 2024 11:22 AM

His eyes are slightly more intense than his brother's, but I see no evidence of insanity when looking at his eyes.

by Anonymousreply 163October 28, 2024 11:23 AM

The only bullshit going on here is your assumption that they were mature enough to have walked away totally ignoring all the psychological damage instilled upon them through their whole life. It's not just a story, there is lots of evidence to back this up from an aunt one of them confided into, a cousin, a letter, the fact that the father was also busy raping boys in a boy band. No there is not video of it to prove it. That's how abuse works. Does anyone have that kind of evidence?

And they were not really mature to commit that murder. As a matter of fact they said themselves they really didn't plan ahead, they expected to be arrested and had the police tested their hands for trace gun powder like they do with most crimes like that involving immediate family at the scene, they would have been arrested on the spot. They didn't even know how to shoot those guns and botched it because Kitty was still alive and they had to go and reload to put her out of her misery. So they botched the whole thing. It was not well though out. They were acting out of anger with very minimal planning. Their alibis was as thin as paper and done last minute.

If this happened in Compton, with the same exact circumstances I would feel the same way.

by Anonymousreply 164October 28, 2024 11:40 AM

I am not sure how the one poster thinks that a 21 year old person who was molested most of their life BY their father and neglected by their mother, is a fully formed, well adjusted adult with the wherewithal to get a job and move out. I think the parents got exactly what they deserved. And these men are firmly Gen X, by the way. So any discussion about "kids today," is baseless. Gen X definitely have a worth ethic - I left home at 18 and never moved back in and scraped and scrimped to make my life happen. But I came from a family who loved me and uplifted me.

by Anonymousreply 165October 28, 2024 7:32 PM

I still can’t figure out which is which. They never looked related.

by Anonymousreply 166October 28, 2024 11:50 PM

Eric is the shy gay one with feelings. That's how I remember their names.

by Anonymousreply 167October 29, 2024 12:36 AM
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