So the BIG Trump reveal / October surprise is...

This will not change anything to his cult.

I read that there is video of groping a donor's minor child at a donor event, instead of this.

TRUMP groping, that is.

R2 Could be the same person ? I don't know - again, the guest was ready to talk about the Zoom call but Joy shut her down.

Whatever he has done, whatever girls he met through Epstein - I just don't see it hurting his campaign. His cult doesn't care. Period.

Agreed. Sex with a woman, even if rape, even if with a porn star he had to break laws to pay off, is a big yawn to those people.

She’s go receipts so there’s that…

The Q-Anon subset of his base are all about international sex trafficking allegations, so it will be interesting how this plays out…

If nothing else, it’s a substantial distraction for the campaign less thank two weeks out from Election Day.

R6 I disagree with your last sentence.

The campaign ignores her, FOX NEWS ignores her, his cult has no idea she exists. No distraction for the campaign - the cult stays loyal.

Just my opinion.

R7. I mostly agree, but if even 2-3% of R swing-state women stay home, Orange Julius is fucked.

Another nothing burger

It is Trump’s campaign strategy to make democrats look like idiots

R10, it would not surprise me if it’s a bogus story meant to distract the media.

In MAGA's eyes, women are for incubation of fetuses and raping.

It's only a crime if a Democrat is involved. See also: conservatives' obsession with Epstein, until the evidence was overwhelmingly about Trump. It will be the same with Diddy.

They won't care if Trump raped someone years ago or groped a girl last month. Women aren't people to them. They just aren't.

Nothing sticks to Trump. He’s done nearly every terrible thing in the world already and they still love him

OP, Trump has not only been CONVICTED of sexual assault, he's had over 50 other women claim it. His cultists give zero fucks, plus they'll assume this is yet another "Democrat dirty trick."

That said, if there's actual VIDEO of it, Trump might actually be in trouble. I still Romney never recovering from the leak of the audio recording when he said he was only "really" working for Republicans.

I don’t know which song I should use, “You Make Me Sick” or “Dear Mr. President?”

This will only make his cult love him even more. It will have zero effect and will probably gain him even more voters.

I think the only thing that might matter to his cult would be if he shote Elon Musk.

Or maybe the Duck Dynasty people (are they still a thing?)

I mean who is someone the Trumpies adore? If he killed someone like that it might matter to them.

Oh, dear. Shot^^^^

Some quadrazillionaire liberal is going to take everything over and turn us into Denmark.

There is no-one the Trump cult adores more than Trump R18. They would love it if he shot someone like Musk. They would find a way to turn Musk into an anti-MAGA villain to justify it.

So mark halperin, some filth alt right journo reported this and another guy I follow said he groped a teenage daughter of a donor at a fundraiser and there is video but nothing out there yet.

If he groped a teenager and it’s on tape, he’s toast. His faithful won’t care but mainstream voters will not put up with it.

YAWN. We saw those pictures of him and Ivanka years ago

If it’s recent it’s bad. If it’s old then less impact.

[quote]If he groped a teenager and it’s on tape, he’s toast. His faithful won’t care but mainstream voters will not put up with it.

Yeah R23 - that's what we all said about the pussy grabbing and the 50+ sexual assaults and the convictions for campaign fraud and when he incited an insurrection and when he said Hitler did good things and when he said that Putin was a great leader and when he did the retarded thing and when he plugged ivermectin and when he downplayed COVID and when he called the insurrection a day of love and when he refused to say he would accept the election results unless he won and when he said the Haitians were eating dogs and cats and when he said that immigrants were poisoning the blood of Americans and when...

They're forcing 10-year olds to carry their rapists' babies. You think they'll care about their orange god copping a feel of some trust fund brat?

[quote]That said, if there's actual VIDEO of it, Trump might actually be in trouble. I still Romney never recovering from the leak of the audio recording when he said he was only "really" working for Republicans.

I just don't see it. There was audio of Trump in the 2016 election from ET (the pussy grabbing audio) and his cult and undecideds just didn't care. Let's face it - he's not Romney, and Romney might not have recovered, but Trump sure did. He not only recovered, he was empowered by it.

This is no surprise.

If it’s recent groping incident I hope video exists because it will peel away votes from him. He’s already losing so please stick a fork in him.

The old saw that we need pictures of him with a dead prostitute or live boy to make any difference.

Magats would be proud if Dump groped their daughters.

[quote]This will not change anything to his cult.

The cult is not the target audience. The Magat cult defined by those lost souls whose alegience to Dump is based soley on his felonious behaviour are unreachable and nobody on the Dem side is concerned about them because there are not enough of them to win him the general election IF (VERY IMPORTANT IF) everyone else turns out and votes.

Here is why this matters: Dump is enjoying a certain selective nostalgia right now from an important voting block: Undecideds. EVERYTHING is directed toward those people at this point in the campaign. These are people who can't make up their mind about whom to vote for or are otherwise persuadable. These are not the cult, but they are crucial in this election.

The undecideds/persuadable need reminding of what it felt like to be living under the whim of a 375 lb baby with severe cognitive deficits, no real skills beyond running cons and who holds power through vindictiveness and spreading lies operating through the lens of several substance addictions severe incontinence, sevearl advanced personality disorders and a history that includes gravely mishandling a pandemic, convicted of sexual assault, defamation, impeached twice, credibly accused of rape, a convicted felon for business and election fraud and led an insurrection against the united states.

EVERY STORY that reminds this voting block of one or more of crimes peels off some of those who might vote for it again.

I believe it is true and terrible and all that stuff, but it will not affect one single voter. His supporters are morally depraved and have shown that in a number of ways already. He is already an adjudicated rapist and he didn’t even break stride, (BTW, I forget…why didn’t he go to jail over the rape charge?)

MAGA will just blame the girl.

MAGA mama bears: "What was she wearing? Did she lead him on? Did she send him naked pictures? Did she flirt with him? Is she a virgin? THAT LITTLE SLUT!"

MAGA men: "She wanted it."

Trump's base think this makes him a stud. It raises him in their esteem..

R34 Because it was a civil, not criminal, suit.

If this story breaks, the more potent hit will be from Trump’s reaction. That craziness will be all over the media.

WIll not matter to his base. He will just deny it, his cult will eat that up, the poor woman will be victim blamed. She should sue him like E Jean did.

This might move the needle a bit, but as others have pointed out, not much. This sadly isn’t the kind of thing that would end his campaign. Just look on Twitter, where the MAGATs responded with video of Joe been touchy with young girls. Their tweet? “You voted for Joe, so what’s the problem!”

I thought it might be a red herring to distract from the Hitler stuff but an insider said it was shopped the last three weeks to other outlets (he named them but I forgot). The outlets turned the story down. It could be that whatever it is, the proof isn’t strong enough. The one thing that would piss me off is if the media outlets are holding off because they don’t want to influence the election this close to the day. If there is something serious—whatever it is—they need to publish it and let the voters decide the significance.