So the BIG Trump reveal / October surprise is...

This will not change anything to his cult.

I read that there is video of groping a donor's minor child at a donor event, instead of this.

TRUMP groping, that is.

R2 Could be the same person ? I don't know - again, the guest was ready to talk about the Zoom call but Joy shut her down.

Whatever he has done, whatever girls he met through Epstein - I just don't see it hurting his campaign. His cult doesn't care. Period.

Agreed. Sex with a woman, even if rape, even if with a porn star he had to break laws to pay off, is a big yawn to those people.

She’s go receipts so there’s that…

The Q-Anon subset of his base are all about international sex trafficking allegations, so it will be interesting how this plays out…

If nothing else, it’s a substantial distraction for the campaign less thank two weeks out from Election Day.

R6 I disagree with your last sentence.

The campaign ignores her, FOX NEWS ignores her, his cult has no idea she exists. No distraction for the campaign - the cult stays loyal.

Just my opinion.

R7. I mostly agree, but if even 2-3% of R swing-state women stay home, Orange Julius is fucked.

Another nothing burger

It is Trump’s campaign strategy to make democrats look like idiots

R10, it would not surprise me if it’s a bogus story meant to distract the media.

In MAGA's eyes, women are for incubation of fetuses and raping.

It's only a crime if a Democrat is involved. See also: conservatives' obsession with Epstein, until the evidence was overwhelmingly about Trump. It will be the same with Diddy.

They won't care if Trump raped someone years ago or groped a girl last month. Women aren't people to them. They just aren't.

Nothing sticks to Trump. He’s done nearly every terrible thing in the world already and they still love him

OP, Trump has not only been CONVICTED of sexual assault, he's had over 50 other women claim it. His cultists give zero fucks, plus they'll assume this is yet another "Democrat dirty trick."

That said, if there's actual VIDEO of it, Trump might actually be in trouble. I still Romney never recovering from the leak of the audio recording when he said he was only "really" working for Republicans.

I don’t know which song I should use, “You Make Me Sick” or “Dear Mr. President?”

This will only make his cult love him even more. It will have zero effect and will probably gain him even more voters.

I think the only thing that might matter to his cult would be if he shote Elon Musk.

Or maybe the Duck Dynasty people (are they still a thing?)

I mean who is someone the Trumpies adore? If he killed someone like that it might matter to them.

Oh, dear. Shot^^^^

Some quadrazillionaire liberal is going to take everything over and turn us into Denmark.

There is no-one the Trump cult adores more than Trump R18. They would love it if he shot someone like Musk. They would find a way to turn Musk into an anti-MAGA villain to justify it.

So mark halperin, some filth alt right journo reported this and another guy I follow said he groped a teenage daughter of a donor at a fundraiser and there is video but nothing out there yet.

If he groped a teenager and it’s on tape, he’s toast. His faithful won’t care but mainstream voters will not put up with it.

YAWN. We saw those pictures of him and Ivanka years ago

If it’s recent it’s bad. If it’s old then less impact.

[quote]If he groped a teenager and it’s on tape, he’s toast. His faithful won’t care but mainstream voters will not put up with it.

Yeah R23 - that's what we all said about the pussy grabbing and the 50+ sexual assaults and the convictions for campaign fraud and when he incited an insurrection and when he said Hitler did good things and when he said that Putin was a great leader and when he did the retarded thing and when he plugged ivermectin and when he downplayed COVID and when he called the insurrection a day of love and when he refused to say he would accept the election results unless he won and when he said the Haitians were eating dogs and cats and when he said that immigrants were poisoning the blood of Americans and when...

They're forcing 10-year olds to carry their rapists' babies. You think they'll care about their orange god copping a feel of some trust fund brat?

[quote]That said, if there's actual VIDEO of it, Trump might actually be in trouble. I still Romney never recovering from the leak of the audio recording when he said he was only "really" working for Republicans.

I just don't see it. There was audio of Trump in the 2016 election from ET (the pussy grabbing audio) and his cult and undecideds just didn't care. Let's face it - he's not Romney, and Romney might not have recovered, but Trump sure did. He not only recovered, he was empowered by it.

This is no surprise.

If it’s recent groping incident I hope video exists because it will peel away votes from him. He’s already losing so please stick a fork in him.

The old saw that we need pictures of him with a dead prostitute or live boy to make any difference.

Magats would be proud if Dump groped their daughters.

[quote]This will not change anything to his cult.

The cult is not the target audience. The Magat cult defined by those lost souls whose alegience to Dump is based soley on his felonious behaviour are unreachable and nobody on the Dem side is concerned about them because there are not enough of them to win him the general election IF (VERY IMPORTANT IF) everyone else turns out and votes.

Here is why this matters: Dump is enjoying a certain selective nostalgia right now from an important voting block: Undecideds. EVERYTHING is directed toward those people at this point in the campaign. These are people who can't make up their mind about whom to vote for or are otherwise persuadable. These are not the cult, but they are crucial in this election.

The undecideds/persuadable need reminding of what it felt like to be living under the whim of a 375 lb baby with severe cognitive deficits, no real skills beyond running cons and who holds power through vindictiveness and spreading lies operating through the lens of several substance addictions severe incontinence, sevearl advanced personality disorders and a history that includes gravely mishandling a pandemic, convicted of sexual assault, defamation, impeached twice, credibly accused of rape, a convicted felon for business and election fraud and led an insurrection against the united states.

EVERY STORY that reminds this voting block of one or more of crimes peels off some of those who might vote for it again.

I believe it is true and terrible and all that stuff, but it will not affect one single voter. His supporters are morally depraved and have shown that in a number of ways already. He is already an adjudicated rapist and he didn’t even break stride, (BTW, I forget…why didn’t he go to jail over the rape charge?)

MAGA will just blame the girl.

MAGA mama bears: "What was she wearing? Did she lead him on? Did she send him naked pictures? Did she flirt with him? Is she a virgin? THAT LITTLE SLUT!"

MAGA men: "She wanted it."

Trump's base think this makes him a stud. It raises him in their esteem..

R34 Because it was a civil, not criminal, suit.

If this story breaks, the more potent hit will be from Trump’s reaction. That craziness will be all over the media.

WIll not matter to his base. He will just deny it, his cult will eat that up, the poor woman will be victim blamed. She should sue him like E Jean did.

This might move the needle a bit, but as others have pointed out, not much. This sadly isn’t the kind of thing that would end his campaign. Just look on Twitter, where the MAGATs responded with video of Joe been touchy with young girls. Their tweet? “You voted for Joe, so what’s the problem!”

I thought it might be a red herring to distract from the Hitler stuff but an insider said it was shopped the last three weeks to other outlets (he named them but I forgot). The outlets turned the story down. It could be that whatever it is, the proof isn’t strong enough. The one thing that would piss me off is if the media outlets are holding off because they don’t want to influence the election this close to the day. If there is something serious—whatever it is—they need to publish it and let the voters decide the significance.

Maybe if he shot himself?

In reality, we had TWO October surprises, but this wasn't it. The double-whammy of John Kelly's NYT op-ed – still one of the strongest trending topics on X DESPITE Motherfuckermusk trying to smother it – and the recent Atlantic reveal about Trump bitching about paying for the funeral of a "fucking Mexican" (in reality, an AMERICAN CITIZEN AND SOLDIER who was brutally murdered on base by a fellow soldier) are serving that purpose.

Vanessa Guillén, the murdered soldier, is a native Houstonian, and she was murdered on a base an hour outside of Austin. This is NOT helping Trump a single fucking bit there, and if anything was likely a godsend in terms of driving voters to the polls. (While it's merely a coincidence that Houston has traditionally had subpar voter participation, this type of shit absolutely helps!) It's obviously a massive (and likely ridiculous) stretch to think Harris has any real shot there, but Colin Allred – who's half-Black – is already driving higher-than-normal Black turnout statewide, and the Vanessa reveal is likely to do the same among both Texas Hispanics and ones in general. (And btw a lot of Latinos flipped for Trump because they actually agree with his "border wall" bullshit, but attacking a Mexican-AMERICAN for no reason – one brutally slaughtered, and dismembered (!!), by a white soldier is exactly the kind of thing that can *actually* move the needle.

If you're not convinced, read the early-voting report below.

These people literally cheer at the part of his speeches when he says "Arrest and move illegals to large staging areas" knowing it's code for concentration camps. They don't give a single shit about anything that might get in the way of their goal.

I saw a post on Twitter from Barron Trump that truly , truly disgusts me and I won't link it here. It was an AI rendering of his fat fuck father sitting on what looks like a throne, with Kamala kneeling in front of him as if to give him a blowjob.

Fucking awful.

I don't think Barron Trump posts on Twitter. It's probably a parody account.

"(📢) DAILY BEAST (2016): Multiple Eyewitnesses Confirm Trump Hosted Sex Parties Involving Minors at His Plaza Hotel

This is real. One of the eyewitnesses is named and organized the parties. The other is known to the journalist. See my pinned thread."

(Link in next comment)

"Inside Donald Trump’s One-Stop Parties: Attendees Recall Cocaine and Very Young Models

‘I was there to party myself. It was guys with younger girls, sex, a lot of sex, a lot of cocaine, top-shelf liquor’ but no smoking. Trump didn’t approve of cigarettes."

Hi base will love that R47/48! They will love him even more.

At this point the goal is to peel off independents and moderates.

Maybe we should stop caring what 23% of half of "Republicans" will think or like, and move on with our lives? Move forward with things in America?

His "base" are unreachable. Most are have untreated mental illnesses that they will never accept they need help for. If they want to lionize a sexual sadist who is also a pedophile and traitor, let them. You can't cure this type of crazy:

"It’s amazing to think that a large percentage of Trump’s base, only a few years ago, believed an online hoax proclaiming Trump was a “Storm” sent by god to eradicate the baby-eating, adrenochrome-drinking, satanic-sacrificing, new world order elite..."

CNN interviewed a Sports Illustrated swimwear model Stacey Williams from 1993 on their show this morning - apparently she has come out to say that Trump groped her in front of Jefferey Epstein when she was dating JE 30 years ago. He brought her up to Trump's Penthouse, and watched Trump 'feel her up'. She just froze and didn't know what to do. She's in her early 50s now, so she had to be early 20s then. She said she has told others about this over the past 30 years, but decided to come out now over a SI documentary which hinted to this.

Not sure if this is the same incident the other woman tried to talk about on Joy Reid's show.

Trump's camp is denying all this, saying she was 'hired by Harris' campaign'.

Women are not humans to MAGA or even some Republicans, so as sorry as I am for Ms. Williams for what she went through then and will go through for speaking up (because she has now become a target for death threats as have her loved ones), him groping or even raping women or kids don't matter to anyone who is supporting him. They don't care and won't care. He could grope their meemaw's cervix and they would brag. He could rape their kids and they would take pictures, frame them, and put them on the mantle. They are mentally ill.

The Stacey Williams story isn't the campaign ending story that is being shopped, but it is a nice warm up for it. Key thing to know about the Williams story, she told others about it before Dump was running for office and again in 2016 without coming forward.

The Dump campaign is shitting bricks about the "Dump gropes a little girl and there is film on it" There are many more, and much worse never before heard stories out there about Dump. The next several days could see a damn break on many of them.

It won't affect a damn thing R54. They don't give a fuck what he does. R53 gets it.

r55 please keep in mind, nobody is trying to influence Dump supporters at this point in the campaign. Harris./Walz are laser focused on that very narrow band of undecided/persuadable voters. MAGAts are not being targeted. The low information/only moderately engaged voter is the target and while there are not many of them, they are crucial.

Some backpedaling from Miss Santos:

I’m going to put some pressure….

The massive publication that is sitting on the Kamala story is doing so because they are allegedly waiting to clear everything with their legal team…

They have had the video and story on their hands for 2 days and I know for a fact it does not take that long to clear a legal review… especially for them.

Point is…

I cannot say what I know because I don’t have access to the records and I’d be wildly exposed legally…

I’m under the advice of counsel to not say anything further than this….

I don’t need clicks… I don’t want attention…

I want the truth out there for Americans to see unlock in 2020 when a coverup campaign was run at the behest of Joe Biden with the help of 51 members of the intelligence community, all whom lied and fabricated facts about the Lap Top!

I’m alive and plan to stay that way.

the big reveal is that his campaign is in disarray and that for the first time in a century a major candidate actually can't physically campaign in the home stretch.

[quote] Some backpedaling from Miss Santos:

Miss Santos is slightly more attractive when she's backpedaling, than pedaling forward, without ever reaching a minimum standard of what is acceptable.

[quote]could see a damn break

Cute, R54! Was that meant to be a pun or are you just not paying attention?

[quote]I’m alive and plan to stay that way.

Pity about that, George.

ok r60 you caught me. I believe a judicious use of puns can be an effective communication style. We need a damn break and it's just an n. Don't shoot me :)

Harriet Hageman revealing herself to be George Santos is the October surprise.

She DOES look like him, r63.

Anyone seen the two of them in a room together?

George post:

My source alleges that the NYT is holding back info and not reporting on a story due to fear it will hurt VP Harris on the final days of the campaign trail.

This story allegedly places her at attendance of a White party hosted by Diddy a few years back in which there was bad behavior taking place by some other guests.

Furthermore I’ve spoken with an insider at NBC and they tell me that NBC similarly has a story of VP Harris that pertains to Diddy and they have yet to run it.

After the viral video two days ago a person reached out to me from WAPO saying they are sitting on Diddy related Kamala stories.

The VP was not the subject of the alleged investigative journalism into Diddy and was accidentally found in attendance at a White party years back.

Here are some questions:

Why did Harris then not question the behavior she saw?

Why didn’t she do something as the top cop of SF at the time?

What about Me Too?

So many questions….

So many allegations being casted…

Why is the media not publishing this?

I want a fair reporting stream and the American people deserve to know what’s really out there about both candidates!

This feels like the Hunter Laptop story from 2020… only this time they are allegedly concealing the story in a distinctive systematic form.

Try harder, George.

The veiled promise: if Trump is elected, you too can treat women like breakable fuck toys.

Expanded: even if you don’t believe you’re a bigot, anti-DEI sentiment in the workplace assures certain neck-beards in your organization are going to favor you over people of color and/or the vagina havers.

[quote]So many allegations being casted…

The use of "casted" invalidates the entire post at R65.

Sounds like a lot of confected drama and bullshit R67.