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Diddygate. Bet money on it. Trump is a wild motherfucking who loved the urban in crowd.

This all stems from Mark Halperin’s comment yesterday, so take it with a grain of salt. And we have all been there waiting for a smoking gun. But please, oh please let it be true!

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In my dreams it iis proof his assassination attempt was staged and therefore he is guilty of murder.

If God himself came down and said Trump was the wrong choice, MAGA would cry that he sold himself to the devil.

I don’t expect this to sink him.

Halperin.

The Mark Halperin angle

This must be related to the buzz yesterday that something with the capacity to destroy Trump’s campaign has been shopped around to various media people.

Maybe he’s finally been caught saying full on racist epithets (the N word), or saying “cunt” to describe women (or to describe a particular woman).

Maybe there’s footage of him with shit-stained pants and staff arguing over who has to deal with it.

Maybe there’s footage of him admitting to being sexually turned on by his own daughter. Or worse, admitting to having acted on it.

The possibilities are myriad.

I've heard this about a dozen times since 2016.

Halperin says he doesn’t believe the story is true.

We need to be careful what we wish for.

Could backfire

The N word would not end Trump’s campaign.

Only evidence of Putin’s compromat could do that.

[quote]Only evidence of Putin’s compromat could do that.

Given the number of MAGAts I've seen singing the praises of Putin and Russia, I doubt very much this would make much difference.

[quote]The N word would not end Trump’s campaign.

Disagree. If he used the n-word, it would motivate a whole class of voters that have been apathetic at best, willing to vote for him at worst: Black men.

But this isn't the story. We all know Shitler is racist to the core, but he and his campaign are not stupid and know that his using the n-word (at this point) would cost him the election.

The alleged rumor is he groped a minor of huge campaign donor. But take that with a grain of salt.

The only thing I can think of that would end him with virtually the whole female voting block is incontrovertible proof that he was with a child. Republican women don't care about their own interests, but they are concerned about children.

Well, he said he wanted Nazi generals like Hitler had. Kelly came out with damning evidence yesterday. I hope it does cost him votes because the hideous monster should be in prison.

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Depressingly, it could be almost anything. Trump is a lying, cheating, thieving, defrauding, bullying, raping, tax-dodging obese 78-yr. old felon. Colluded with foreign adversaries, began an insurrection, bilked charities and was nearly impeached twice. Not fit for service.

[quote]If God himself came down and said Trump was the wrong choice, MAGA would cry that He sold himself to the devil.

Fixed it for you, r6.

Fuck this stupid noise.

Just get out and vote blue up and down the ballot.

I think recordings of him saying the n-word would definitely sink him in the polls, but it wouldn’t end his campaign. He’s going to see this through no matter what comes out. And his followers won’t be convinced either.

Notice how the whole 'deepfake' 'AI' thang blew-up bigly this year- right along with Turd's trials and campaign? As if they were poised to deny anything he did by blaming a 400 lb. incel in his mom's basement.

Then they couldn't resist using it on Kamala.

Please, we heard the same thing about the grab em by the pussy tape. Americans are in a cult and have already voted.

R22, it would not.

Wake me up when they post something worth getting up for.

R16, if that were the case they couldn’t release a video of it.

But what could it possibly be? If they had tape of him raping an infant, MAGAts would just say the baby was a libtard and deserved it. If he called Kamala, Michelle O or even Melania and Ivanka cunts, his base would cheer. If evidence directly proving he'd taken money from Putin/Russia, all the media would say is "he has varied funding." Hell, if we had a porno with him, Shady, Josh Hawley and Harrison Butker in a fourgy, they'd hand him a gold-plated penis award at the adult video awards.

Maybe it was DonOld on the grassy knoll. Maybe Hitler is his biological father. Maybe he died and they've just been weekend-at-Bernie's-ing for months.

In the meantime, savor this.

R7 oh my. Did Mark Halperin have some bad plastic surgery or is he face bloated like that from some heart medication.

Trump with Diddy or Kanye would be interesting and/or a male minor.

His brain-dead supporters won't care.

There's not a doubt in my mind that the orange turd has sexually abused his daughters, it will come out after he dies.

One can only hope.

R30: Slither on by, Teacunt! This thread is for sane people.

[quote] Maybe he’s finally been caught saying full on racist epithets (the N word), or saying “cunt” to describe women (or to describe a particular woman).

That would only galvanize Deplorable support.

R33 What makes you say that?

[quote] I think recordings of him saying the n-word would definitely sink him in the polls

I saw the clip of Biden, Obama, and Clinton at the Ethel Kennedy memorial service in which their voices were all dubbed to say negative things using AI to mimic their voices. It sounded exactly like their real voice. That kind of thing may be what people are talking about.

SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT!!!

It definitely will galvanize deplorable support r36, but it might convince black men who are considering voting for Dump to change their minds. But I don’t think releasing something like this would end his campaign. But it would be a nice bonus!

One thought did cross my mind—maybe this is why he’s been unhinged, combined with canceling a lot of appearances. But maybe it’s all just wishful thinking.

R39, I. eke i’ve it’s “Piss or get off the pot”

Enough with the blue balls. Give us the cumshot

His supporters are cult members. An audio or video recording of him saying or doing something horrible will be branded “fake news” by them.

The only way to eradicate his cult is to starve him of attention-when his antics stop generating clicks and ratings, the media will start to ignore him and he will go away.

Or he dies.

I think the n-word would be problem for him. Not sure it would sink him because I'm not sure how big his black support is. I have no doubt the c word would cause no harm at all.

Raping children

Taking bribes for pardons

Calling blacks ni@@ers

Selling classified secrets

Cheating n Melania

Trump is already a convicted felon and his supporters don’t care.

I can't imagine ANYTHING at all torpedoing his campaign. His audience doesn't care - especially about his past. All they care about is the stimulus check they got three years ago with his name on it.

The Diddy sex tape first, please.

[quote] There's not a doubt in my mind that the orange turd has sexually abused his daughters

Not the fat one.

I do think Trump will have a problem with raping children.

Something to do with this?

He’s transitioning!

What could possibly be big enough to make an impact? He grabbed women by their pussy, and is best buddy with Vladimir Putin. Both is fine with his voters. Unless it's pending death, they would vote for him no matter what. Well let me correct that. Even if he is on his deathbed they will vote for him and call it fake news.

Unless Trump literally killed someone with his bare hands, nothing will kill his campaign. I take that back, even THAT wouldn't kill his campaign.

I guess what would be big is if a certified legit video or audio surfaced in which he ridicules his constituency and admits that he just leeching off of them. Other than that I see nothing being severe enough to make a dent.

Some of yall sound demented. Trump lost in 2020. There a gazillion things that could his campaign.

Donald Trump is on record as saying he could shoot somebody in broad daylight in the middle of Fifth Avenue in New York City and no one would do a damn thing about it.

And he's absolutely correct. If you need proof, just look at January 6, 2021. The mother fucker is still on the loose and has more than an outside chance of regaining the POTUS.

If anybody thinks a tape of him using the "n" word or raping virgin, underaged girls would cause him to lose the election, you are truly delusional.

It depends how you divide Trump's base though.

Giving say 48% in a poll... no way all of that 48% is hard core MAGA. There are nose holders in there. You've only got to turn off enough of them to win them over for one cycle or depress their turnout on voting day. I'd love some polling to better understand the make up of the Republican vote share.

These would be wonderful

Nothing would surprise me about Trump. He’s a very awful person so there are probably hundreds of damaging things we don’t know.

It won't make any difference. Trumpers will vote for him even if he kills a guy in the middle of Times Square.

Whoever said up thread that if the bomb is that Trump planned his own assassination attempt?

I think that's about the only thing that might change at least a few Trumpster's minds.

MAGAts wouldn't care if he raped their own wives/daughters. And the MSM would whitewash it.

Even MAGA would dump him if he raped a 13 year old girl/boy.

LOL... nothing will sink him, because nothing ever has.

i wonder what Jared and Ivanka think of the Hitler problem.

Trump could shoot the kids of all of his MAGA cultists point blank in front of them and they would rationalize it. He would not lose one vote.

A video of him performing an abortion on Ivanka and talking about how much he loves minorities and hates guns, while Putin can be seen in the background dropping off a large sack with a dollar sign on might JUST do it.

R66, you aren’t wrong. Just listen to the sister of the Mexican woman who Trump didn’t want to pay the funeral for. She has no problem defending him.

Yes many of the things Trump has said would have ended other political candidates but some of yall are forgetting the contexts in which he said those things. Trump said he could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue in regards to having been the Teflon don up until the point as it pertains to saying non PC shit. It was fiery sarcastic rhetoric of being anti-woke, anti-cancellation. His audience understands not to take that seriously, and I actually agree even though many other things he has said and done SHOULD have been taken seriously.

We have never had a presidential candidate(or president for that matter) like Trump. Trump was a celebrity prior to be president. And don’t bring up Ronald Reagan. Trump was an A-list celebrity, a household name, a brand ,not some washed up former B list hunk. 90% of America knew who Trump was 20 YEARS BEFORE he ever became president. The orange cunt set new territory that cannot be compared to regular politicians. And that’s what makes the motherfucker so dangerous. At any rate, he will be losing on November 5th.

Some commenters here seem to think that all votes cast for Trump are votes cast by full-on MAGA Trump supporters.

In a national election many Americans with a shallow and minimal awareness of politics come out and vote. And many Americans who don’t like either candidate come out and vote.

And when it’s this close, losing just 3% to 5% of support is catastrophic.

The rumor is he groped a major donor's underage daughter at a fundraiser last week and that it's on video.

R64, he did rape a 13 year old girl. She begged him to use a condom and he said "I can do anything I want to you you stupid whore" and punched her in the face. That was in her deposition and it came out years ago. She went into hiding due to credible death threats. 13 years old. A child.

A lot of this is coming from Mark Halperin, and people selectively quoting him. He did say he'd been pitched a story about something that would end Trump's campaign, but people are leaving out the rest:

Veteran political journalist Mark Halperin, who was among the first to report that President Biden would withdraw from the race in July, revealed on Tuesday that there is a "certain story" that has been pitched to major news outlets that — if true — could derail Donald Trump's 2024 presidential campaign in its final days.

Speaking on his "Morning Meeting" show on YouTube, Halperin shared that although he does not believe the story is accurate, its impact—if it were—would be the October Surprise the political media has been waiting for.

"I know of one story... I don't believe it is true. But if it's true, it would end Donald Trump's campaign," Halperin said, adding that he's aware of various efforts to influence the race's outcome with less than two weeks until Election Day.

R71, that's very credible. He's always been a sexual predator. I'm the dementia just amplifies it. It might explain why they put him in time out

R71 If so he’s toast. That would seal the deal. It would totally affect turnout on his side more so than making independents go KH.

Oh Haleprin said he doesn’t believe it is true. Go home, folks. There is nothing to see here. I didn’t realize it was edited.

David Frum weighs in

If video exists, why would Halperin (or anybody) doubt it?

Exactly R77. I really struggle to think of anything that would sway his supporters. We've already heard the worst from Dump, and he is still the republican nominee.

I want the pee pee tape!

Ivana was going to tattle secrets if he didn't raise her allowance. So he had her killed.

Halperin has had major credibility problems for years—was suspended from MSNBC in 2011 and finally fired from MSNBC in 2017 for sexually harassing five women (see his Wikipedia page). His reputation is shit. He is a total hack and an attention whore.

Do we know that Halperin is the only source for this? Supposedly the story is being shooed around so is this info based only on what Halperin said? R82 is right, Halperin is a hack.

[quote] Go home, folks. There is nothing to see here.—Prince-Akeem

Is this the title of your one-man show, Teacunt?

It would be very nice, but I've learned to temper my emotions since that Fitzmas business.

BREAKING: The video is here!

Ha I meant shopped around at r83. Although shooed works too.

He's joined the Nation of Islam!

Is it a dead girl or a live boy?

The bigger issue is that now people will not believe their own eyes or ears because they'll assume it's a "deepfake."

Next, common criminals and murderers will be acquitted because deepfake.

We've entered a dangerous era. When the wealth and power of foreign governments like China and Russia, both of whom have the technical expertise to do this, it will be chaos - which is exactly what they want to destabilize the US.

It took you five years to post that video R88?

It's *obviously*...emails.

Twitter points out that just yesterday Mark Halpern told his followers on Youtube that based on early voting, Trump will win.

[quote] "If the early vote numbers stay the way they are—and that's a big if—we'll almost certainly know before Election Day who's going to win," Halperin said.

So he's now trying to get out in front of a new story to pre-debunk it?

[quote] Halperin says his comment (about the new Trump rumor) was made to warn people of “actors” who are trying to influence the election.

LOL @R93. It does demonstrate how exhausting the first tRump presidency was and he certainly has not gotten any "fresher" since leaving office.

It could be leaked medical records showing that he did not, in fact, “ace his cognitive.”

[quote] The bigger issue is that now people will not believe their own eyes or ears because they'll assume it's a "deepfake."

How readily did people believe the lie that the Hunter Biden laptop was “Russian propaganda”? You had many people on this site denying for a long time the reality of the laptop and what was in it. Even when forced to accept that it was Biden’s, people went into overdrive to deflect and try to defuse the situation. Wouldn’t the other side do the same with this mystery video?

[quote]It could be leaked medical records showing that he did not, in fact, “ace his cognitive.”

That's obvious at every one of his rallies.

R85 I wish I could find the thread in which I commented on exactly how you operate on every thread as it pertains to me. I just want to screenshot the comment I posted because it’s exactly what you do EVERYTIME. If anyone know please share it so this fool can be owned.

[quote]How readily did people believe the lie that the Hunter Biden laptop was “Russian propaganda”?

It *was* used as Russian propaganda, r98.

[quote] How readily did people believe the lie that the Hunter Biden laptop was “Russian propaganda”?

Saddest deflection ever.

Stop making every goddamned thread about your fee fees, Teacunt!

R100. How's the new job?

I looked at X to see the trending topics, and there’s one for “October surprise”, but the top responses seem to be just people mocking the “Trump is Hitler!” claim.

I wouldn't get carried away. I remember this happening in October 2016: there were rumours that something was about to break, something far more damaging than the "grab 'em by the pussy" recording... in the end, nothing surfaced. Of course I'd love something to sink Trump's campaign, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

[quote] How readily did people believe the lie that the Hunter Biden laptop was “Russian propaganda”

The story about how the laptop came to be in MAGA’s possession was quite suss. My reaction was not so much “this is Russian misinformation,” but that it very well might have been. Leaving aside that Hunter’s laptop was really nobody’s business and his privacy was invaded.

Well yeah Kit, probably not going to make a difference. Maybe if he's secretly married to Putin, and even then ...

The fun part is you can actually imagine pretty much anything and there's at least a possibility it's true.

It finally occurred to me: he's transitioning.

Think about it. Nothing he has said, done, colluded with, endangered, slandered, slimed or made up whole cloth had any impact, not even crashing the economy in the worst failure of protecting the nation from a pandemic, which was a clear and present danger... but he's focused on trans people (specifically in swing states) so much in the last few weeks, it might just be his death knell. And it would be fitting that the issue that impacts so few people in reality would be [italic]the one issue[/italic] that could end Trump.

He'll make one ugly lady.

I'd imagine something like this, R110.

It's a sex tape with Lindseybelle. The shocking part is that Miss Lindz is the top!

His medical records.

That would be a HIPAA violation. Many people's assess would be grasses.

Halperin, you cunt, do you have something or not?

[quote] A video of him performing an abortion on Ivanka and talking about how much he loves minorities and hates guns, while Putin can be seen in the background dropping off a large sack with a dollar sign on might JUST do it.

This right here by r67^

THREAD CLOSED

I bet Steve Bannon is involved somehow. My bet, if this is legitimate, has something to do with the assassination attempt.

It gets worse?

Halperin is part of the MAGA effort to create a “red mirage” in the run up to the election and is probably getting paid for it.

I absolutely can't think of a thing that would deter his supporters. Tiktok posted a rumor he's on tape groping a minor at some event. His supporters will not care. It's the girl's fault, she loved every second of it, it's her parents' fault, blah blah blah.

I can't think of a thing. Not even oiled up naked and rolling with Diddy.

Halperin is just saying that the story is out there. He’s not the source of the story and does not even endorse it. I’m not sure what attacking him accomplishes here. MAGA propagandists are preemptively warning of AI-generated photos. They are not doing this because of Halperin.

If he dies or there really is something "campaign ending" about to come out, is Vance the nominee then?

I think it would be up to the RNC to name a replacement, but Vance is the only option at this point.

[Quote] Trump is already a convicted felon and his supporters don’t care.

My niece texted me a t shirt some influencer girl was wearing at a country music concert in Florida — the shirt said “convictedfelon24” on it. They’re actually proud of it.

[Quote] [R85] I wish I could find the thread in which I commented on exactly how you operate on every thread as it pertains to me

Stop sticking your fat snout into these threads in your idiotic black cosplays, Matt. Everyone here wishes you were dead. And you deserve that animosity.

[quote] Oh Haleprin said he doesn’t believe it is true. Go home, folks. There is nothing to see here. I didn’t realize it was edited.

I posted the first reference to Halperin's comment last night on his evening call. He didn't add his disbelief until his morning call today, something I duly noted in a subsequent post. Observing him for some time, I can state with some confidence that HE believes that, IF true, this story would kill Trump's campaign. There've been some suggestions here that already seemed baked in the cake and would not have the predicted effect. It would have to be something other than that. I like the suggestion of Trump planning his own assassination. Not because that has to be it, but it would have to be something of that magnitude.

This reminds me of the UFO people on Reddit. They always say there's going to be discloser and a big story about the government and aliens being revealed. Nothing ever happens.

r125 shouldn't profess to be speaking for "everyone here."

While I'm not big fan of the Many Faces of Tea, I certainly don't wish him dead.

What if, just what if it was discovered that certain assassination attempts on a certain presidential candidate were planned and paid for by that candidate and his campaign? What if?

They don’t think he’s really a convicted felon. They think he was unfairly targeted on a bogus charge by a Democratic prosecutor acting for political reasons.

I'd like to believe there's something out there, but I've been disappointed way too many times by Dump's supposedly imminent demise over something.

Video of something he said at a fundraiser. Yes, I know this is TikTok gossip.

Maybe a picture of Arnold Palmer's TINY penis.

[QUOTE]That would be a HIPAA violation. Many people's assess would be grasses.

Not if it's leaked by someone in the campaign who has access to them. I think the only thing that could hurt him now would be a laundry list of his physical and mental ailments and a list of the "prescription" drugs he's ingesting.

I just realized that his buddy Leon can write a very big check and make this disappear.

If it is groping, MAGA would make all kinds of excuses for it, including that "Sleepy Joe Has Been Groping Girls For Years, Libtards!".

So it would have to be something really egregious. Like a full tit offensive with both hands while he says HONK HONK or something.

If it's an audio tape, it's him calling Kamala the n word.

I just don't see that as being campaign ending, R137. For Trump, that is. For everyone else, sure.

If it's just audio, boo. One really could use the AI argument there.

Yeah, depressingly, he'd probably get a boost from that r138.

A guest on Joy Reid made some reference to a new sexual assault case, linking it to Jeffrey Epstein. Joy shut her down, saying they were still working on nailing this story down.

It's this:

The medical records theory is interesting.

It's intriguing because its got to be something or accompanied by evidence you could fake and its got to be damaging.

Now we know his base will never go.

So what could render him ruined? It's got to be something that forces remaining "loyal" Republicans (some, enough) to abandon him (or creates the dilemma where they have to choose.) Does it seem faked? Or does it sound like something he'd say? These days, nothing is definitive.

It's got to be something that either threatens down ballot votes for Republicans or galvanizes votes against them, forcing Republicans to renounce him. It needs not just moral weight (because what's the worth these days?) but the credibility weight of the optics of Republicans finally abandoning him.

Or it's an elaborate hoax to psych out Republicans, his campaign and to get everybody talking about what would get everybody talking about what he could do or say that is that awful. Because there's damaging value in that, too.

If it's actually something, my money is video or audio of him saying something about either black people, Latinos or a national abortion ban.

This was a Guardian breaking-news alert a few minutes ago.

If the "grab 'em by the pussy" didn't disqualify him, an allegation of something that allegedly happened more than 30 years ago with no proof won't even be a blip.

Giant yawn if this is IT!

Hmm. I just don't see how groping charges - against grab 'em by the pussy Trump - being campaign ending. And why Halperin wouldn't believe this about Trump.

Whispers around DC is that it's a revelation that he had an affair with Angie Dickinson, if this proves to be true and comes out, he'll never recover...

Nah. Groping won’t end his campaign, even if it was with Epstein in the mix. He was found civilly liable for rape , fercrissakes, and who really batted an eye except people who weren’t going to vote for him in the first place. And supporters will just remind you of Bill Clinton. All we’ll hear is fake news this, fake news that, no evidence, I don’t know her, she’s not my type anyway…

But for people on the fence anything helps.

[quote]Whispers around DC is that it's a revelation that he had an affair with Angie Dickinson, if this proves to be true and comes out, he'll never recover...

That sounds like the beginning of a "Let's Be Larry King" thread.

If nothing else, some republican women who’ve experienced this in the workplace might just stay at home on the 5th.

Journalist Mark Halperin accused of sexual harassment by four woman a few years ago. This is the guy who we are suppose to trust for breaking news only he has?

[quote] —Angie refuses to speak

I also have no comment

R153. “ Journalist”

I want picks of Trump on Epstein's island. MAGA would still let it slide, blame Democrats or Clinton, but I would love to wipe that robotic smile off Milania's face one more time.

That can’t be the story. Scores of women have already said the same thing about Trump.

Also—no photos or video so why all the talk of AI?

FWIW, David Frum thinks it is but tweets:

[quote] While I'm not big fan of the Many Faces of Tea, I certainly don't wish him dead.

Give it time.

The only thing I think might sink him is proof of him plotting and paying someone to assassinate Biden or Harris. You would have to have video tapes and multiple witnesses who are current MAGA's. Even that wouldn't totally cost him the election some of his supporters would be all in for that, but it might mean his arrest and refusal of bail and sitting in jail until a trial.

A video made at Diddys place which shows Dump having sex with a 13 yr old. That’s the one thing. The ONE thing America doesn’t go for.

[quote] Journalist Mark Halperin accused of sexual harassment by four woman a few years ago. This is the guy who we are suppose to trust for breaking news only he has?

He does not “have” the story. He doesn’t believe the story. He is not the story

R162 Any sexual activity with a Black man present would repulse his base.

I don't think that would do it r161, but what might do it, is actual proof that he planned his own "assassination" and didn't care that a guy at his rally got killed instead. That might make even a few Trump Cult members pause and think.

I thought that booze and dope, R162.

Nothing will ever change MAGA minds. Nothing.

But it could drive voters to the polls and get undecideds and non-voters to the polls. That’s all. Trump is already losing anyway. Could further damage GOP down ballot as well.

But MAGA will never desert him. They’re too invested.

We have a Mark Halperin defender troll now.

He needs every single GOP leaning vote. If the anti-Trumpers grow a little in the next two weeks that's all it will take.

[quote] Journalist Mark Halperin accused of sexual harassment by four woman a few years ago. This is the guy who we are suppose to trust for breaking news only he has?

He's found work post-#MeToo on Newsmax, so it's hard to fathom why he would fabricate some amorphous story that would, if true, definitely end Trump's campaign. Not something that would endear him to his Newsmax bosses, let alone its audience.

R172, it’s all about clicks, babe.

[quote] This must be related to the buzz yesterday that something with the capacity to destroy Trump’s campaign has been shopped around to various media people.

*YAWN*

[quote] Maybe he’s finally been caught saying full on racist epithets (the N word), or saying “cunt” to describe women (or to describe a particular woman).

Niggers? Yeah, they only react to that word when they're told to by their Massa Don. Cunts? Do you mean those wearing "He Can Grab Me ANYWHERE!" t-shirts?

[quote] Maybe there’s footage of him with shit-stained pants and staff arguing over who has to deal with it.

Nah. They'd just stuff Baby Ruths in the diapers they started wearing a couple months ago to own the Libs.

[quote] Maybe there’s footage of him admitting to being sexually turned on by his own daughter. Or worse, admitting to having acted on it.

No.... "Trump's just like me! That means I could fuck Ivanka too! After all she is a feckless whore!"

[quote] The possibilities are myriad.

Yes, and none of them lead anywhere useful. We're dealing with idiots here. We're surrounded by idiots here. I wish more of us were as willing to exercise the power they're more than glad to see used against us and agree to EXTERMINATE THEM!

Video of him talking shit about his own base would piss them off

I asked this upthread, but is Halperin the only source for this story? There’s a lot of chatter on the interwebs, but are they all really just referencing Halperin?

The Rick Wilson tweet posted upthread, R177, would seem to answer your question.

[quote]Donald Trump groped me in what felt like a ‘twisted game’ with Jeffrey Epstein, former model alleges

Good luck honey!

Juanita Broaddrick

Paula Jones

Kathleen Willey

Leslie Millwee

Cristy Zercher

Eileen Wellstone

Sandra Allen James

Karen Hinton

Monica Lewinsky

I’m not even sure of that, R176 - I’m not sure many J6 MAGATS who went to jail even changed their minds about him when he didn’t protect them, or I’d be surprised if any did.

[quote]Video of him talking shit about his own base would piss them off

And they would get over it by the time they cast their ballots, guaranteed.

R180 I agree. They just wont vote if they are miffed.

No it wouldn't R176. His cult don't care about anything he says or does. Nothing will change their minds or cause them to stop supporting him. Literally nothing. They'll just laugh it off and say "Oh he's just joking" or "That's just Trump being Trump! - he's doing it for us because he loves us!"... "Who cares if Putin paid Trump millions of dollars for state secrets and favors. Putin is a great leader and Trump is just doing it to make America great again!" We've seen it time and time again.

The worse he behaves - the more they love him and support him. The more court cases which are brought against him - they more they love him. The more he insults and promises cruelty towards other people - they more they love him. The more racist he is - the more they love him. Anything they don't like they say is AI or fake news or taken out of context or he never said it.

Just repeating - there is [bold]nothing[/bold] Trump can say or do to change the cult's mind. And the rest of the Republicans are holding on to Trump for dear life because he's all they've got and nothing will change their minds either.

I'm very surprised so many people seem to be so clueless after all these years of Trump.

[quote]He'll make one ugly lady.

God, can you imagine? First he'd have to learn to walk in heels, and his fat ass is none too steady on his feet as it is. There'd be a wig, which frankly would probably be an improvement on his current 'do. And he's so tacky, he'd wear the sluttiest, trampiest clothes he could fit into.

Everyone hoping for an October Surprise. The kind that happened to Hillary with that fake investigation a week before the election then an opps, never mind moment Jame Comey. Look it's not going to happen. Even if there was something as dramatic as that, MAGA don't care - Merica.

They WILL vote and they will all line up and vote for Trump R182. Every single time.

None of the Jan 6th MAGAs have changed their minds about anything R180. They may have paid cynical lip service in court attempting to get a lesser prison sentence but not one of them have changed their minds about any of it. They would do it again.

Are we really this clueless? Come on everyone. All the norms and rules we thought existed and operated under in the past no longer exist. Trump has decimated the GOP and has completely changed the rules of the American political landscape.

This is how Trump & Co operate. They know how to manipulate the media and the electorate if nothing else. Get everybody talking about the NEXT thing constantly the next thing, the next thing, without giving oxygen to anything right in front of us. We're all wondering about this invisible question-mark thing instead of him literally praising Hitler's governance, instead of the thing before that and the thing before that.

Again, this - if it is even a "this" - isn't about separating Trump from his hardcore MAGA base, who may make up as much as 30-35% of the electorate, but from the Republican "normies," the ones who initially abandoned him in the aftermath of J6. Their departure would be more than enough to effectively end Trump's campaign.

Okay, would video of Trump blowing Epstein break through?

It's not going to make even one iota of difference with those people R188. At the end of the day they have nothing else except Trump and to them - Trump will be a better president and better represent their needs and values than Harris. They might have to hold their noses but they will still vote for Trump every single time. They might even lie about it but that's what they will do.

[quote]Okay, would video of Trump blowing Epstein break through?

No. The GOP will say it's a fake AI video created as propaganda by the Dems. The MAGA cult still wouldn't care.

Nothing will stop his campaign. The spin doctors will all come out to spin.

He’s a cult leader and they can do no wrong

R189, I keep bringing this discussion back to Halperin. He's as familiar with the MAGA base as anyone, even empathetic to them, while oft-mentioning Trump Derangement Syndrome, & if HE, of all people, thinks this story, if true, would end the Trump campaign that's pretty conclusive for me.

Wiping his ass with the flag and smearing the shit on a portrait of Jesus MIGHT peel off a few supporters. I emphasize MIGHT.

If it’s this then stop holding your breath. Won’t change a thing.

If something is going to happen it better happen soon, 25 million people have already voted.

I have expected Trump to pull some dirty shit before election day, actual expected him to pull several dirty things before election day.

R187 is absolutely right. This story is to distract from the Hitler comments. Just as the eating the cats and dogs are doubled down to get away from Trump being annihilated at the debate.

This “story” is not getting any mainstream media play, so it is not distracting anyone but political junkies.

#KamalaGropedMe is now trending on X.

R195, how would that story implicate talk of deepfakes?

R197 may be right. This isn’t getting mainstream play, but it does reek of the kind of shit Dump does.

[Quote]Come on everyone. All the norms and rules we thought existed and operated under in the past no longer exist

What norms? The norms that covered up JFK raping women and colluded to make him a princely saint? The norms that saw establishment feminists tear down Lewinsky as a gold digger?

It's Liberal/ left situational morality and hypocrisy that gets Trump votes and makes his supporters enjoy the anger his shamelessness provokes.

Something off putting politically that would cause him to lose the election vs something personally bad for him that his followers won’t care about but will cause him to have a stroke.

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible."

Unfortunately, he is correct R204.

[quote]This story is to distract from the Hitler comments.

His cult base LOVE the Hitler comments. They want him to make more comments like that. The more comments the better as far as they are concerned.

Absolutely NOTHING will change the mind of his trash worshipers

A video of him being ass fucked by Diddy while Trump screams "Yes daddy yes". A boy can dream.

The cult and the GOP would say it was a fake video and that it had been debunked by Loomer & friends R208.

"Again? But that trick never works!" - Rocky to Bullwinkle

"This time for sure!" - Bullwinkle to Rocky

IDGI. He's already been accused by a woman of an Epstein-related rape when she was 13, and that lawsuit, though dropped $$$, didn't affect Trump politically.

The Steele Dossier was compiled by an MI-6 agent, and didn't hurt Trump politically.

Stormy? Payoffs? Impeachment? Meh.

Whatever, and I do mean whatever, might turn up now will be called a "Deep State Fake" and have a similar nothing-burger effect.

R202, JFK was a seducer extraordinaire. There is zero evidence of his being a rapist.

Monica told pals she was taking her kneepads to DC. She had already had an affair with a married former teacher of hers. In the WH, she flashed her red thong at Clinton. Was he in the right? No. Was she a naive innocent? Hardly. Monica was a consenting adult.

But nobody thought she was a "gold-digger." You do know that term involves seeking money?

Exactly, r190. While there are plenty of H/W yard signs in my neighborhood, there are a few of these:

"Trump Safety/ Kamala Crime"

He has stage 4 brain cancer.

Sometimes I feel like this is the darkest timeline

For r215

[quote] R15: Sometimes I feel like this is the darkest timeline

Go with the feeling.

Maybe the Hitler love will sway some Undecideds.

Which direction though, r218?

The Hitler love is a feature, not a bug.