Oh please! Oh please!
Twitter blowing up about something big about to break against Trump
by Anonymous | reply 602 | October 31, 2024 8:48 PM |
Diddygate. Bet money on it. Trump is a wild motherfucking who loved the urban in crowd.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | October 23, 2024 8:35 PM |
This all stems from Mark Halperin’s comment yesterday, so take it with a grain of salt. And we have all been there waiting for a smoking gun. But please, oh please let it be true!
by Anonymous | reply 3 | October 23, 2024 8:35 PM |
In my dreams it iis proof his assassination attempt was staged and therefore he is guilty of murder.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | October 23, 2024 8:37 PM |
If God himself came down and said Trump was the wrong choice, MAGA would cry that he sold himself to the devil.
I don’t expect this to sink him.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | October 23, 2024 8:40 PM |
This must be related to the buzz yesterday that something with the capacity to destroy Trump’s campaign has been shopped around to various media people.
Maybe he’s finally been caught saying full on racist epithets (the N word), or saying “cunt” to describe women (or to describe a particular woman).
Maybe there’s footage of him with shit-stained pants and staff arguing over who has to deal with it.
Maybe there’s footage of him admitting to being sexually turned on by his own daughter. Or worse, admitting to having acted on it.
The possibilities are myriad.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | October 23, 2024 8:42 PM |
I've heard this about a dozen times since 2016.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | October 23, 2024 8:44 PM |
Halperin says he doesn’t believe the story is true.
We need to be careful what we wish for.
Could backfire
by Anonymous | reply 11 | October 23, 2024 8:45 PM |
The N word would not end Trump’s campaign.
Only evidence of Putin’s compromat could do that.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | October 23, 2024 8:46 PM |
[quote]Only evidence of Putin’s compromat could do that.
Given the number of MAGAts I've seen singing the praises of Putin and Russia, I doubt very much this would make much difference.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | October 23, 2024 8:53 PM |
[quote]The N word would not end Trump’s campaign.
Disagree. If he used the n-word, it would motivate a whole class of voters that have been apathetic at best, willing to vote for him at worst: Black men.
But this isn't the story. We all know Shitler is racist to the core, but he and his campaign are not stupid and know that his using the n-word (at this point) would cost him the election.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | October 23, 2024 8:54 PM |
The alleged rumor is he groped a minor of huge campaign donor. But take that with a grain of salt.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | October 23, 2024 8:55 PM |
The only thing I can think of that would end him with virtually the whole female voting block is incontrovertible proof that he was with a child. Republican women don't care about their own interests, but they are concerned about children.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | October 23, 2024 8:57 PM |
Well, he said he wanted Nazi generals like Hitler had. Kelly came out with damning evidence yesterday. I hope it does cost him votes because the hideous monster should be in prison.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | October 23, 2024 8:57 PM |
zzzzzzzzzzzz
by Anonymous | reply 18 | October 23, 2024 8:57 PM |
Depressingly, it could be almost anything. Trump is a lying, cheating, thieving, defrauding, bullying, raping, tax-dodging obese 78-yr. old felon. Colluded with foreign adversaries, began an insurrection, bilked charities and was nearly impeached twice. Not fit for service.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | October 23, 2024 8:58 PM |
[quote]If God himself came down and said Trump was the wrong choice, MAGA would cry that He sold himself to the devil.
Fixed it for you, r6.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | October 23, 2024 8:58 PM |
Fuck this stupid noise.
Just get out and vote blue up and down the ballot.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | October 23, 2024 8:59 PM |
I think recordings of him saying the n-word would definitely sink him in the polls, but it wouldn’t end his campaign. He’s going to see this through no matter what comes out. And his followers won’t be convinced either.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | October 23, 2024 9:01 PM |
Notice how the whole 'deepfake' 'AI' thang blew-up bigly this year- right along with Turd's trials and campaign? As if they were poised to deny anything he did by blaming a 400 lb. incel in his mom's basement.
Then they couldn't resist using it on Kamala.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | October 23, 2024 9:02 PM |
Please, we heard the same thing about the grab em by the pussy tape. Americans are in a cult and have already voted.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | October 23, 2024 9:04 PM |
R22, it would not.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | October 23, 2024 9:04 PM |
Wake me up when they post something worth getting up for.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | October 23, 2024 9:04 PM |
R16, if that were the case they couldn’t release a video of it.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | October 23, 2024 9:05 PM |
But what could it possibly be? If they had tape of him raping an infant, MAGAts would just say the baby was a libtard and deserved it. If he called Kamala, Michelle O or even Melania and Ivanka cunts, his base would cheer. If evidence directly proving he'd taken money from Putin/Russia, all the media would say is "he has varied funding." Hell, if we had a porno with him, Shady, Josh Hawley and Harrison Butker in a fourgy, they'd hand him a gold-plated penis award at the adult video awards.
Maybe it was DonOld on the grassy knoll. Maybe Hitler is his biological father. Maybe he died and they've just been weekend-at-Bernie's-ing for months.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | October 23, 2024 9:06 PM |
R7 oh my. Did Mark Halperin have some bad plastic surgery or is he face bloated like that from some heart medication.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | October 23, 2024 9:08 PM |
Trump with Diddy or Kanye would be interesting and/or a male minor.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | October 23, 2024 9:08 PM |
His brain-dead supporters won't care.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | October 23, 2024 9:11 PM |
There's not a doubt in my mind that the orange turd has sexually abused his daughters, it will come out after he dies.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | October 23, 2024 9:13 PM |
One can only hope.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | October 23, 2024 9:13 PM |
R30: Slither on by, Teacunt! This thread is for sane people.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | October 23, 2024 9:13 PM |
[quote] Maybe he’s finally been caught saying full on racist epithets (the N word), or saying “cunt” to describe women (or to describe a particular woman).
That would only galvanize Deplorable support.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | October 23, 2024 9:13 PM |
R33 What makes you say that?
by Anonymous | reply 37 | October 23, 2024 9:16 PM |
[quote] I think recordings of him saying the n-word would definitely sink him in the polls
I saw the clip of Biden, Obama, and Clinton at the Ethel Kennedy memorial service in which their voices were all dubbed to say negative things using AI to mimic their voices. It sounded exactly like their real voice. That kind of thing may be what people are talking about.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | October 23, 2024 9:18 PM |
SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT!!!
by Anonymous | reply 39 | October 23, 2024 9:20 PM |
It definitely will galvanize deplorable support r36, but it might convince black men who are considering voting for Dump to change their minds. But I don’t think releasing something like this would end his campaign. But it would be a nice bonus!
One thought did cross my mind—maybe this is why he’s been unhinged, combined with canceling a lot of appearances. But maybe it’s all just wishful thinking.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | October 23, 2024 9:21 PM |
R39, I. eke i’ve it’s “Piss or get off the pot”
by Anonymous | reply 41 | October 23, 2024 9:22 PM |
Enough with the blue balls. Give us the cumshot
by Anonymous | reply 42 | October 23, 2024 9:22 PM |
His supporters are cult members. An audio or video recording of him saying or doing something horrible will be branded “fake news” by them.
The only way to eradicate his cult is to starve him of attention-when his antics stop generating clicks and ratings, the media will start to ignore him and he will go away.
Or he dies.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | October 23, 2024 9:23 PM |
I think the n-word would be problem for him. Not sure it would sink him because I'm not sure how big his black support is. I have no doubt the c word would cause no harm at all.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | October 23, 2024 9:23 PM |
Raping children
Taking bribes for pardons
Calling blacks ni@@ers
Selling classified secrets
Cheating n Melania
by Anonymous | reply 45 | October 23, 2024 9:24 PM |
Trump is already a convicted felon and his supporters don’t care.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | October 23, 2024 9:27 PM |
I can't imagine ANYTHING at all torpedoing his campaign. His audience doesn't care - especially about his past. All they care about is the stimulus check they got three years ago with his name on it.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | October 23, 2024 9:27 PM |
The Diddy sex tape first, please.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | October 23, 2024 9:28 PM |
[quote] There's not a doubt in my mind that the orange turd has sexually abused his daughters
Not the fat one.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | October 23, 2024 9:29 PM |
I do think Trump will have a problem with raping children.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | October 23, 2024 9:29 PM |
He’s transitioning!
by Anonymous | reply 52 | October 23, 2024 9:30 PM |
What could possibly be big enough to make an impact? He grabbed women by their pussy, and is best buddy with Vladimir Putin. Both is fine with his voters. Unless it's pending death, they would vote for him no matter what. Well let me correct that. Even if he is on his deathbed they will vote for him and call it fake news.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | October 23, 2024 9:31 PM |
Unless Trump literally killed someone with his bare hands, nothing will kill his campaign. I take that back, even THAT wouldn't kill his campaign.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | October 23, 2024 9:34 PM |
I guess what would be big is if a certified legit video or audio surfaced in which he ridicules his constituency and admits that he just leeching off of them. Other than that I see nothing being severe enough to make a dent.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | October 23, 2024 9:35 PM |
Some of yall sound demented. Trump lost in 2020. There a gazillion things that could his campaign.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | October 23, 2024 9:36 PM |
Donald Trump is on record as saying he could shoot somebody in broad daylight in the middle of Fifth Avenue in New York City and no one would do a damn thing about it.
And he's absolutely correct. If you need proof, just look at January 6, 2021. The mother fucker is still on the loose and has more than an outside chance of regaining the POTUS.
If anybody thinks a tape of him using the "n" word or raping virgin, underaged girls would cause him to lose the election, you are truly delusional.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | October 23, 2024 9:36 PM |
It depends how you divide Trump's base though.
Giving say 48% in a poll... no way all of that 48% is hard core MAGA. There are nose holders in there. You've only got to turn off enough of them to win them over for one cycle or depress their turnout on voting day. I'd love some polling to better understand the make up of the Republican vote share.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | October 23, 2024 9:40 PM |
These would be wonderful
by Anonymous | reply 59 | October 23, 2024 9:41 PM |
Nothing would surprise me about Trump. He’s a very awful person so there are probably hundreds of damaging things we don’t know.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | October 23, 2024 9:44 PM |
It won't make any difference. Trumpers will vote for him even if he kills a guy in the middle of Times Square.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | October 23, 2024 9:46 PM |
Whoever said up thread that if the bomb is that Trump planned his own assassination attempt?
I think that's about the only thing that might change at least a few Trumpster's minds.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | October 23, 2024 9:46 PM |
MAGAts wouldn't care if he raped their own wives/daughters. And the MSM would whitewash it.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | October 23, 2024 9:47 PM |
Even MAGA would dump him if he raped a 13 year old girl/boy.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | October 23, 2024 9:47 PM |
LOL... nothing will sink him, because nothing ever has.
i wonder what Jared and Ivanka think of the Hitler problem.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | October 23, 2024 9:48 PM |
Trump could shoot the kids of all of his MAGA cultists point blank in front of them and they would rationalize it. He would not lose one vote.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | October 23, 2024 9:52 PM |
A video of him performing an abortion on Ivanka and talking about how much he loves minorities and hates guns, while Putin can be seen in the background dropping off a large sack with a dollar sign on might JUST do it.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | October 23, 2024 9:53 PM |
R66, you aren’t wrong. Just listen to the sister of the Mexican woman who Trump didn’t want to pay the funeral for. She has no problem defending him.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | October 23, 2024 9:54 PM |
Yes many of the things Trump has said would have ended other political candidates but some of yall are forgetting the contexts in which he said those things. Trump said he could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue in regards to having been the Teflon don up until the point as it pertains to saying non PC shit. It was fiery sarcastic rhetoric of being anti-woke, anti-cancellation. His audience understands not to take that seriously, and I actually agree even though many other things he has said and done SHOULD have been taken seriously.
We have never had a presidential candidate(or president for that matter) like Trump. Trump was a celebrity prior to be president. And don’t bring up Ronald Reagan. Trump was an A-list celebrity, a household name, a brand ,not some washed up former B list hunk. 90% of America knew who Trump was 20 YEARS BEFORE he ever became president. The orange cunt set new territory that cannot be compared to regular politicians. And that’s what makes the motherfucker so dangerous. At any rate, he will be losing on November 5th.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | October 23, 2024 9:58 PM |
Some commenters here seem to think that all votes cast for Trump are votes cast by full-on MAGA Trump supporters.
In a national election many Americans with a shallow and minimal awareness of politics come out and vote. And many Americans who don’t like either candidate come out and vote.
And when it’s this close, losing just 3% to 5% of support is catastrophic.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | October 23, 2024 10:02 PM |
The rumor is he groped a major donor's underage daughter at a fundraiser last week and that it's on video.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | October 23, 2024 10:06 PM |
R64, he did rape a 13 year old girl. She begged him to use a condom and he said "I can do anything I want to you you stupid whore" and punched her in the face. That was in her deposition and it came out years ago. She went into hiding due to credible death threats. 13 years old. A child.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | October 23, 2024 10:07 PM |
A lot of this is coming from Mark Halperin, and people selectively quoting him. He did say he'd been pitched a story about something that would end Trump's campaign, but people are leaving out the rest:
Veteran political journalist Mark Halperin, who was among the first to report that President Biden would withdraw from the race in July, revealed on Tuesday that there is a "certain story" that has been pitched to major news outlets that — if true — could derail Donald Trump's 2024 presidential campaign in its final days.
Speaking on his "Morning Meeting" show on YouTube, Halperin shared that although he does not believe the story is accurate, its impact—if it were—would be the October Surprise the political media has been waiting for.
"I know of one story... I don't believe it is true. But if it's true, it would end Donald Trump's campaign," Halperin said, adding that he's aware of various efforts to influence the race's outcome with less than two weeks until Election Day.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | October 23, 2024 10:07 PM |
R71, that's very credible. He's always been a sexual predator. I'm the dementia just amplifies it. It might explain why they put him in time out
by Anonymous | reply 74 | October 23, 2024 10:08 PM |
R71 If so he’s toast. That would seal the deal. It would totally affect turnout on his side more so than making independents go KH.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | October 23, 2024 10:09 PM |
Oh Haleprin said he doesn’t believe it is true. Go home, folks. There is nothing to see here. I didn’t realize it was edited.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | October 23, 2024 10:12 PM |
If video exists, why would Halperin (or anybody) doubt it?
by Anonymous | reply 78 | October 23, 2024 10:18 PM |
Exactly R77. I really struggle to think of anything that would sway his supporters. We've already heard the worst from Dump, and he is still the republican nominee.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | October 23, 2024 10:18 PM |
I want the pee pee tape!
by Anonymous | reply 80 | October 23, 2024 10:18 PM |
Ivana was going to tattle secrets if he didn't raise her allowance. So he had her killed.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | October 23, 2024 10:22 PM |
Halperin has had major credibility problems for years—was suspended from MSNBC in 2011 and finally fired from MSNBC in 2017 for sexually harassing five women (see his Wikipedia page). His reputation is shit. He is a total hack and an attention whore.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | October 23, 2024 10:27 PM |
Do we know that Halperin is the only source for this? Supposedly the story is being shooed around so is this info based only on what Halperin said? R82 is right, Halperin is a hack.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | October 23, 2024 10:29 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 84 | October 23, 2024 10:30 PM |
[quote] Go home, folks. There is nothing to see here.—Prince-Akeem
Is this the title of your one-man show, Teacunt?
by Anonymous | reply 85 | October 23, 2024 10:30 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 86 | October 23, 2024 10:31 PM |
It would be very nice, but I've learned to temper my emotions since that Fitzmas business.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | October 23, 2024 10:32 PM |
Ha I meant shopped around at r83. Although shooed works too.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | October 23, 2024 10:33 PM |
He's joined the Nation of Islam!
by Anonymous | reply 90 | October 23, 2024 10:35 PM |
Is it a dead girl or a live boy?
by Anonymous | reply 91 | October 23, 2024 10:39 PM |
The bigger issue is that now people will not believe their own eyes or ears because they'll assume it's a "deepfake."
Next, common criminals and murderers will be acquitted because deepfake.
We've entered a dangerous era. When the wealth and power of foreign governments like China and Russia, both of whom have the technical expertise to do this, it will be chaos - which is exactly what they want to destabilize the US.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | October 23, 2024 10:39 PM |
It took you five years to post that video R88?
by Anonymous | reply 93 | October 23, 2024 10:40 PM |
It's *obviously*...emails.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | October 23, 2024 10:42 PM |
Twitter points out that just yesterday Mark Halpern told his followers on Youtube that based on early voting, Trump will win.
[quote] "If the early vote numbers stay the way they are—and that's a big if—we'll almost certainly know before Election Day who's going to win," Halperin said.
So he's now trying to get out in front of a new story to pre-debunk it?
[quote] Halperin says his comment (about the new Trump rumor) was made to warn people of “actors” who are trying to influence the election.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | October 23, 2024 10:43 PM |
LOL @R93. It does demonstrate how exhausting the first tRump presidency was and he certainly has not gotten any "fresher" since leaving office.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | October 23, 2024 10:44 PM |
It could be leaked medical records showing that he did not, in fact, “ace his cognitive.”
by Anonymous | reply 97 | October 23, 2024 10:45 PM |
[quote] The bigger issue is that now people will not believe their own eyes or ears because they'll assume it's a "deepfake."
How readily did people believe the lie that the Hunter Biden laptop was “Russian propaganda”? You had many people on this site denying for a long time the reality of the laptop and what was in it. Even when forced to accept that it was Biden’s, people went into overdrive to deflect and try to defuse the situation. Wouldn’t the other side do the same with this mystery video?
by Anonymous | reply 98 | October 23, 2024 10:47 PM |
[quote]It could be leaked medical records showing that he did not, in fact, “ace his cognitive.”
That's obvious at every one of his rallies.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | October 23, 2024 10:47 PM |
R85 I wish I could find the thread in which I commented on exactly how you operate on every thread as it pertains to me. I just want to screenshot the comment I posted because it’s exactly what you do EVERYTIME. If anyone know please share it so this fool can be owned.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | October 23, 2024 10:48 PM |
[quote]How readily did people believe the lie that the Hunter Biden laptop was “Russian propaganda”?
It *was* used as Russian propaganda, r98.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | October 23, 2024 10:49 PM |
[quote] How readily did people believe the lie that the Hunter Biden laptop was “Russian propaganda”?
Saddest deflection ever.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | October 23, 2024 10:52 PM |
Stop making every goddamned thread about your fee fees, Teacunt!
by Anonymous | reply 103 | October 23, 2024 10:53 PM |
R100. How's the new job?
by Anonymous | reply 104 | October 23, 2024 10:55 PM |
I looked at X to see the trending topics, and there’s one for “October surprise”, but the top responses seem to be just people mocking the “Trump is Hitler!” claim.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | October 23, 2024 10:55 PM |
I wouldn't get carried away. I remember this happening in October 2016: there were rumours that something was about to break, something far more damaging than the "grab 'em by the pussy" recording... in the end, nothing surfaced. Of course I'd love something to sink Trump's campaign, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | October 23, 2024 11:13 PM |
[quote] How readily did people believe the lie that the Hunter Biden laptop was “Russian propaganda”
The story about how the laptop came to be in MAGA’s possession was quite suss. My reaction was not so much “this is Russian misinformation,” but that it very well might have been. Leaving aside that Hunter’s laptop was really nobody’s business and his privacy was invaded.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | October 23, 2024 11:14 PM |
Well yeah Kit, probably not going to make a difference. Maybe if he's secretly married to Putin, and even then ...
The fun part is you can actually imagine pretty much anything and there's at least a possibility it's true.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | October 23, 2024 11:31 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 109 | October 23, 2024 11:37 PM |
It finally occurred to me: he's transitioning.
Think about it. Nothing he has said, done, colluded with, endangered, slandered, slimed or made up whole cloth had any impact, not even crashing the economy in the worst failure of protecting the nation from a pandemic, which was a clear and present danger... but he's focused on trans people (specifically in swing states) so much in the last few weeks, it might just be his death knell. And it would be fitting that the issue that impacts so few people in reality would be [italic]the one issue[/italic] that could end Trump.
He'll make one ugly lady.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | October 23, 2024 11:40 PM |
It's a sex tape with Lindseybelle. The shocking part is that Miss Lindz is the top!
by Anonymous | reply 112 | October 23, 2024 11:47 PM |
His medical records.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | October 23, 2024 11:50 PM |
That would be a HIPAA violation. Many people's assess would be grasses.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | October 23, 2024 11:52 PM |
Halperin, you cunt, do you have something or not?
by Anonymous | reply 115 | October 23, 2024 11:57 PM |
[quote] A video of him performing an abortion on Ivanka and talking about how much he loves minorities and hates guns, while Putin can be seen in the background dropping off a large sack with a dollar sign on might JUST do it.
This right here by r67^
THREAD CLOSED
by Anonymous | reply 116 | October 23, 2024 11:57 PM |
I bet Steve Bannon is involved somehow. My bet, if this is legitimate, has something to do with the assassination attempt.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | October 23, 2024 11:57 PM |
It gets worse?
by Anonymous | reply 118 | October 24, 2024 12:01 AM |
Halperin is part of the MAGA effort to create a “red mirage” in the run up to the election and is probably getting paid for it.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | October 24, 2024 12:03 AM |
I absolutely can't think of a thing that would deter his supporters. Tiktok posted a rumor he's on tape groping a minor at some event. His supporters will not care. It's the girl's fault, she loved every second of it, it's her parents' fault, blah blah blah.
I can't think of a thing. Not even oiled up naked and rolling with Diddy.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | October 24, 2024 12:06 AM |
Halperin is just saying that the story is out there. He’s not the source of the story and does not even endorse it. I’m not sure what attacking him accomplishes here. MAGA propagandists are preemptively warning of AI-generated photos. They are not doing this because of Halperin.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | October 24, 2024 12:13 AM |
If he dies or there really is something "campaign ending" about to come out, is Vance the nominee then?
by Anonymous | reply 122 | October 24, 2024 12:14 AM |
I think it would be up to the RNC to name a replacement, but Vance is the only option at this point.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | October 24, 2024 12:15 AM |
[Quote] Trump is already a convicted felon and his supporters don’t care.
My niece texted me a t shirt some influencer girl was wearing at a country music concert in Florida — the shirt said “convictedfelon24” on it. They’re actually proud of it.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | October 24, 2024 12:18 AM |
[Quote] [R85] I wish I could find the thread in which I commented on exactly how you operate on every thread as it pertains to me
Stop sticking your fat snout into these threads in your idiotic black cosplays, Matt. Everyone here wishes you were dead. And you deserve that animosity.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | October 24, 2024 12:20 AM |
[quote] Oh Haleprin said he doesn’t believe it is true. Go home, folks. There is nothing to see here. I didn’t realize it was edited.
I posted the first reference to Halperin's comment last night on his evening call. He didn't add his disbelief until his morning call today, something I duly noted in a subsequent post. Observing him for some time, I can state with some confidence that HE believes that, IF true, this story would kill Trump's campaign. There've been some suggestions here that already seemed baked in the cake and would not have the predicted effect. It would have to be something other than that. I like the suggestion of Trump planning his own assassination. Not because that has to be it, but it would have to be something of that magnitude.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | October 24, 2024 12:20 AM |
This reminds me of the UFO people on Reddit. They always say there's going to be discloser and a big story about the government and aliens being revealed. Nothing ever happens.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | October 24, 2024 12:21 AM |
r125 shouldn't profess to be speaking for "everyone here."
While I'm not big fan of the Many Faces of Tea, I certainly don't wish him dead.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | October 24, 2024 12:21 AM |
What if, just what if it was discovered that certain assassination attempts on a certain presidential candidate were planned and paid for by that candidate and his campaign? What if?
by Anonymous | reply 129 | October 24, 2024 12:28 AM |
They don’t think he’s really a convicted felon. They think he was unfairly targeted on a bogus charge by a Democratic prosecutor acting for political reasons.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | October 24, 2024 12:29 AM |
I'd like to believe there's something out there, but I've been disappointed way too many times by Dump's supposedly imminent demise over something.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | October 24, 2024 12:31 AM |
Video of something he said at a fundraiser. Yes, I know this is TikTok gossip.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | October 24, 2024 12:44 AM |
Maybe a picture of Arnold Palmer's TINY penis.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | October 24, 2024 12:49 AM |
[QUOTE]That would be a HIPAA violation. Many people's assess would be grasses.
Not if it's leaked by someone in the campaign who has access to them. I think the only thing that could hurt him now would be a laundry list of his physical and mental ailments and a list of the "prescription" drugs he's ingesting.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | October 24, 2024 12:50 AM |
I just realized that his buddy Leon can write a very big check and make this disappear.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | October 24, 2024 12:50 AM |
If it is groping, MAGA would make all kinds of excuses for it, including that "Sleepy Joe Has Been Groping Girls For Years, Libtards!".
So it would have to be something really egregious. Like a full tit offensive with both hands while he says HONK HONK or something.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | October 24, 2024 12:52 AM |
If it's an audio tape, it's him calling Kamala the n word.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | October 24, 2024 12:53 AM |
I just don't see that as being campaign ending, R137. For Trump, that is. For everyone else, sure.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | October 24, 2024 12:55 AM |
If it's just audio, boo. One really could use the AI argument there.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | October 24, 2024 12:55 AM |
Yeah, depressingly, he'd probably get a boost from that r138.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | October 24, 2024 12:56 AM |
A guest on Joy Reid made some reference to a new sexual assault case, linking it to Jeffrey Epstein. Joy shut her down, saying they were still working on nailing this story down.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | October 24, 2024 1:01 AM |
The medical records theory is interesting.
It's intriguing because its got to be something or accompanied by evidence you could fake and its got to be damaging.
Now we know his base will never go.
So what could render him ruined? It's got to be something that forces remaining "loyal" Republicans (some, enough) to abandon him (or creates the dilemma where they have to choose.) Does it seem faked? Or does it sound like something he'd say? These days, nothing is definitive.
It's got to be something that either threatens down ballot votes for Republicans or galvanizes votes against them, forcing Republicans to renounce him. It needs not just moral weight (because what's the worth these days?) but the credibility weight of the optics of Republicans finally abandoning him.
Or it's an elaborate hoax to psych out Republicans, his campaign and to get everybody talking about what would get everybody talking about what he could do or say that is that awful. Because there's damaging value in that, too.
If it's actually something, my money is video or audio of him saying something about either black people, Latinos or a national abortion ban.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | October 24, 2024 1:05 AM |
This was a Guardian breaking-news alert a few minutes ago.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | October 24, 2024 1:06 AM |
If the "grab 'em by the pussy" didn't disqualify him, an allegation of something that allegedly happened more than 30 years ago with no proof won't even be a blip.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | October 24, 2024 1:08 AM |
Giant yawn if this is IT!
by Anonymous | reply 146 | October 24, 2024 1:09 AM |
Hmm. I just don't see how groping charges - against grab 'em by the pussy Trump - being campaign ending. And why Halperin wouldn't believe this about Trump.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | October 24, 2024 1:10 AM |
Whispers around DC is that it's a revelation that he had an affair with Angie Dickinson, if this proves to be true and comes out, he'll never recover...
by Anonymous | reply 148 | October 24, 2024 1:17 AM |
Nah. Groping won’t end his campaign, even if it was with Epstein in the mix. He was found civilly liable for rape , fercrissakes, and who really batted an eye except people who weren’t going to vote for him in the first place. And supporters will just remind you of Bill Clinton. All we’ll hear is fake news this, fake news that, no evidence, I don’t know her, she’s not my type anyway…
by Anonymous | reply 149 | October 24, 2024 1:17 AM |
But for people on the fence anything helps.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | October 24, 2024 1:21 AM |
[quote]Whispers around DC is that it's a revelation that he had an affair with Angie Dickinson, if this proves to be true and comes out, he'll never recover...
That sounds like the beginning of a "Let's Be Larry King" thread.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | October 24, 2024 1:23 AM |
If nothing else, some republican women who’ve experienced this in the workplace might just stay at home on the 5th.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | October 24, 2024 1:23 AM |
Journalist Mark Halperin accused of sexual harassment by four woman a few years ago. This is the guy who we are suppose to trust for breaking news only he has?
by Anonymous | reply 153 | October 24, 2024 1:27 AM |
[quote] —Angie refuses to speak
I also have no comment
by Anonymous | reply 154 | October 24, 2024 1:27 AM |
R153. “ Journalist”
by Anonymous | reply 155 | October 24, 2024 1:29 AM |
I want picks of Trump on Epstein's island. MAGA would still let it slide, blame Democrats or Clinton, but I would love to wipe that robotic smile off Milania's face one more time.
by Anonymous | reply 156 | October 24, 2024 1:29 AM |
That can’t be the story. Scores of women have already said the same thing about Trump.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | October 24, 2024 1:32 AM |
Also—no photos or video so why all the talk of AI?
by Anonymous | reply 158 | October 24, 2024 1:35 AM |
[quote] While I'm not big fan of the Many Faces of Tea, I certainly don't wish him dead.
Give it time.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | October 24, 2024 1:37 AM |
The only thing I think might sink him is proof of him plotting and paying someone to assassinate Biden or Harris. You would have to have video tapes and multiple witnesses who are current MAGA's. Even that wouldn't totally cost him the election some of his supporters would be all in for that, but it might mean his arrest and refusal of bail and sitting in jail until a trial.
by Anonymous | reply 161 | October 24, 2024 1:39 AM |
A video made at Diddys place which shows Dump having sex with a 13 yr old. That’s the one thing. The ONE thing America doesn’t go for.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | October 24, 2024 1:40 AM |
[quote] Journalist Mark Halperin accused of sexual harassment by four woman a few years ago. This is the guy who we are suppose to trust for breaking news only he has?
He does not “have” the story. He doesn’t believe the story. He is not the story
by Anonymous | reply 163 | October 24, 2024 1:41 AM |
R162 Any sexual activity with a Black man present would repulse his base.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | October 24, 2024 1:43 AM |
I don't think that would do it r161, but what might do it, is actual proof that he planned his own "assassination" and didn't care that a guy at his rally got killed instead. That might make even a few Trump Cult members pause and think.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | October 24, 2024 1:44 AM |
I thought that booze and dope, R162.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | October 24, 2024 1:45 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 167 | October 24, 2024 1:45 AM |
Nothing will ever change MAGA minds. Nothing.
But it could drive voters to the polls and get undecideds and non-voters to the polls. That’s all. Trump is already losing anyway. Could further damage GOP down ballot as well.
But MAGA will never desert him. They’re too invested.
by Anonymous | reply 168 | October 24, 2024 1:46 AM |
We have a Mark Halperin defender troll now.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | October 24, 2024 1:47 AM |
He needs every single GOP leaning vote. If the anti-Trumpers grow a little in the next two weeks that's all it will take.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | October 24, 2024 1:47 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 171 | October 24, 2024 1:55 AM |
[quote] Journalist Mark Halperin accused of sexual harassment by four woman a few years ago. This is the guy who we are suppose to trust for breaking news only he has?
He's found work post-#MeToo on Newsmax, so it's hard to fathom why he would fabricate some amorphous story that would, if true, definitely end Trump's campaign. Not something that would endear him to his Newsmax bosses, let alone its audience.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | October 24, 2024 1:56 AM |
R172, it’s all about clicks, babe.
by Anonymous | reply 173 | October 24, 2024 1:57 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 174 | October 24, 2024 1:58 AM |
[quote] This must be related to the buzz yesterday that something with the capacity to destroy Trump’s campaign has been shopped around to various media people.
*YAWN*
[quote] Maybe he’s finally been caught saying full on racist epithets (the N word), or saying “cunt” to describe women (or to describe a particular woman).
Niggers? Yeah, they only react to that word when they're told to by their Massa Don. Cunts? Do you mean those wearing "He Can Grab Me ANYWHERE!" t-shirts?
[quote] Maybe there’s footage of him with shit-stained pants and staff arguing over who has to deal with it.
Nah. They'd just stuff Baby Ruths in the diapers they started wearing a couple months ago to own the Libs.
[quote] Maybe there’s footage of him admitting to being sexually turned on by his own daughter. Or worse, admitting to having acted on it.
No.... "Trump's just like me! That means I could fuck Ivanka too! After all she is a feckless whore!"
[quote] The possibilities are myriad.
Yes, and none of them lead anywhere useful. We're dealing with idiots here. We're surrounded by idiots here. I wish more of us were as willing to exercise the power they're more than glad to see used against us and agree to EXTERMINATE THEM!
by Anonymous | reply 175 | October 24, 2024 1:59 AM |
Video of him talking shit about his own base would piss them off
by Anonymous | reply 176 | October 24, 2024 2:00 AM |
I asked this upthread, but is Halperin the only source for this story? There’s a lot of chatter on the interwebs, but are they all really just referencing Halperin?
by Anonymous | reply 177 | October 24, 2024 2:03 AM |
The Rick Wilson tweet posted upthread, R177, would seem to answer your question.
by Anonymous | reply 178 | October 24, 2024 2:07 AM |
[quote]Donald Trump groped me in what felt like a ‘twisted game’ with Jeffrey Epstein, former model alleges
Good luck honey!
Juanita Broaddrick
Paula Jones
Kathleen Willey
Leslie Millwee
Cristy Zercher
Eileen Wellstone
Sandra Allen James
Karen Hinton
Monica Lewinsky
by Anonymous | reply 179 | October 24, 2024 2:12 AM |
I’m not even sure of that, R176 - I’m not sure many J6 MAGATS who went to jail even changed their minds about him when he didn’t protect them, or I’d be surprised if any did.
by Anonymous | reply 180 | October 24, 2024 2:12 AM |
[quote]Video of him talking shit about his own base would piss them off
And they would get over it by the time they cast their ballots, guaranteed.
by Anonymous | reply 181 | October 24, 2024 2:13 AM |
R180 I agree. They just wont vote if they are miffed.
by Anonymous | reply 182 | October 24, 2024 2:16 AM |
No it wouldn't R176. His cult don't care about anything he says or does. Nothing will change their minds or cause them to stop supporting him. Literally nothing. They'll just laugh it off and say "Oh he's just joking" or "That's just Trump being Trump! - he's doing it for us because he loves us!"... "Who cares if Putin paid Trump millions of dollars for state secrets and favors. Putin is a great leader and Trump is just doing it to make America great again!" We've seen it time and time again.
The worse he behaves - the more they love him and support him. The more court cases which are brought against him - they more they love him. The more he insults and promises cruelty towards other people - they more they love him. The more racist he is - the more they love him. Anything they don't like they say is AI or fake news or taken out of context or he never said it.
Just repeating - there is [bold]nothing[/bold] Trump can say or do to change the cult's mind. And the rest of the Republicans are holding on to Trump for dear life because he's all they've got and nothing will change their minds either.
I'm very surprised so many people seem to be so clueless after all these years of Trump.
by Anonymous | reply 183 | October 24, 2024 2:17 AM |
[quote]He'll make one ugly lady.
God, can you imagine? First he'd have to learn to walk in heels, and his fat ass is none too steady on his feet as it is. There'd be a wig, which frankly would probably be an improvement on his current 'do. And he's so tacky, he'd wear the sluttiest, trampiest clothes he could fit into.
by Anonymous | reply 184 | October 24, 2024 2:19 AM |
Everyone hoping for an October Surprise. The kind that happened to Hillary with that fake investigation a week before the election then an opps, never mind moment Jame Comey. Look it's not going to happen. Even if there was something as dramatic as that, MAGA don't care - Merica.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | October 24, 2024 2:22 AM |
They WILL vote and they will all line up and vote for Trump R182. Every single time.
None of the Jan 6th MAGAs have changed their minds about anything R180. They may have paid cynical lip service in court attempting to get a lesser prison sentence but not one of them have changed their minds about any of it. They would do it again.
Are we really this clueless? Come on everyone. All the norms and rules we thought existed and operated under in the past no longer exist. Trump has decimated the GOP and has completely changed the rules of the American political landscape.
by Anonymous | reply 186 | October 24, 2024 2:23 AM |
This is how Trump & Co operate. They know how to manipulate the media and the electorate if nothing else. Get everybody talking about the NEXT thing constantly the next thing, the next thing, without giving oxygen to anything right in front of us. We're all wondering about this invisible question-mark thing instead of him literally praising Hitler's governance, instead of the thing before that and the thing before that.
by Anonymous | reply 187 | October 24, 2024 2:28 AM |
Again, this - if it is even a "this" - isn't about separating Trump from his hardcore MAGA base, who may make up as much as 30-35% of the electorate, but from the Republican "normies," the ones who initially abandoned him in the aftermath of J6. Their departure would be more than enough to effectively end Trump's campaign.
by Anonymous | reply 188 | October 24, 2024 2:28 AM |
Okay, would video of Trump blowing Epstein break through?
by Anonymous | reply 189 | October 24, 2024 2:30 AM |
It's not going to make even one iota of difference with those people R188. At the end of the day they have nothing else except Trump and to them - Trump will be a better president and better represent their needs and values than Harris. They might have to hold their noses but they will still vote for Trump every single time. They might even lie about it but that's what they will do.
by Anonymous | reply 190 | October 24, 2024 2:31 AM |
[quote]Okay, would video of Trump blowing Epstein break through?
No. The GOP will say it's a fake AI video created as propaganda by the Dems. The MAGA cult still wouldn't care.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | October 24, 2024 2:33 AM |
Nothing will stop his campaign. The spin doctors will all come out to spin.
He’s a cult leader and they can do no wrong
by Anonymous | reply 192 | October 24, 2024 2:34 AM |
R189, I keep bringing this discussion back to Halperin. He's as familiar with the MAGA base as anyone, even empathetic to them, while oft-mentioning Trump Derangement Syndrome, & if HE, of all people, thinks this story, if true, would end the Trump campaign that's pretty conclusive for me.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | October 24, 2024 2:37 AM |
Wiping his ass with the flag and smearing the shit on a portrait of Jesus MIGHT peel off a few supporters. I emphasize MIGHT.
by Anonymous | reply 194 | October 24, 2024 2:49 AM |
If it’s this then stop holding your breath. Won’t change a thing.
by Anonymous | reply 195 | October 24, 2024 2:54 AM |
If something is going to happen it better happen soon, 25 million people have already voted.
I have expected Trump to pull some dirty shit before election day, actual expected him to pull several dirty things before election day.
by Anonymous | reply 196 | October 24, 2024 2:55 AM |
R187 is absolutely right. This story is to distract from the Hitler comments. Just as the eating the cats and dogs are doubled down to get away from Trump being annihilated at the debate.
by Anonymous | reply 197 | October 24, 2024 2:56 AM |
This “story” is not getting any mainstream media play, so it is not distracting anyone but political junkies.
by Anonymous | reply 198 | October 24, 2024 2:59 AM |
#KamalaGropedMe is now trending on X.
by Anonymous | reply 199 | October 24, 2024 3:00 AM |
R195, how would that story implicate talk of deepfakes?
by Anonymous | reply 200 | October 24, 2024 3:02 AM |
R197 may be right. This isn’t getting mainstream play, but it does reek of the kind of shit Dump does.
by Anonymous | reply 201 | October 24, 2024 3:04 AM |
[Quote]Come on everyone. All the norms and rules we thought existed and operated under in the past no longer exist
What norms? The norms that covered up JFK raping women and colluded to make him a princely saint? The norms that saw establishment feminists tear down Lewinsky as a gold digger?
It's Liberal/ left situational morality and hypocrisy that gets Trump votes and makes his supporters enjoy the anger his shamelessness provokes.
by Anonymous | reply 202 | October 24, 2024 3:11 AM |
Something off putting politically that would cause him to lose the election vs something personally bad for him that his followers won’t care about but will cause him to have a stroke.
by Anonymous | reply 203 | October 24, 2024 3:11 AM |
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible."
by Anonymous | reply 204 | October 24, 2024 3:15 AM |
Unfortunately, he is correct R204.
by Anonymous | reply 205 | October 24, 2024 3:22 AM |
[quote]This story is to distract from the Hitler comments.
His cult base LOVE the Hitler comments. They want him to make more comments like that. The more comments the better as far as they are concerned.
by Anonymous | reply 206 | October 24, 2024 3:24 AM |
Absolutely NOTHING will change the mind of his trash worshipers
by Anonymous | reply 207 | October 24, 2024 3:30 AM |
A video of him being ass fucked by Diddy while Trump screams "Yes daddy yes". A boy can dream.
by Anonymous | reply 208 | October 24, 2024 3:40 AM |
The cult and the GOP would say it was a fake video and that it had been debunked by Loomer & friends R208.
by Anonymous | reply 209 | October 24, 2024 3:46 AM |
"Again? But that trick never works!" - Rocky to Bullwinkle
"This time for sure!" - Bullwinkle to Rocky
by Anonymous | reply 210 | October 24, 2024 3:46 AM |
IDGI. He's already been accused by a woman of an Epstein-related rape when she was 13, and that lawsuit, though dropped $$$, didn't affect Trump politically.
The Steele Dossier was compiled by an MI-6 agent, and didn't hurt Trump politically.
Stormy? Payoffs? Impeachment? Meh.
Whatever, and I do mean whatever, might turn up now will be called a "Deep State Fake" and have a similar nothing-burger effect.
by Anonymous | reply 211 | October 24, 2024 4:00 AM |
R202, JFK was a seducer extraordinaire. There is zero evidence of his being a rapist.
Monica told pals she was taking her kneepads to DC. She had already had an affair with a married former teacher of hers. In the WH, she flashed her red thong at Clinton. Was he in the right? No. Was she a naive innocent? Hardly. Monica was a consenting adult.
But nobody thought she was a "gold-digger." You do know that term involves seeking money?
by Anonymous | reply 212 | October 24, 2024 4:11 AM |
Exactly, r190. While there are plenty of H/W yard signs in my neighborhood, there are a few of these:
"Trump Safety/ Kamala Crime"
by Anonymous | reply 213 | October 24, 2024 4:13 AM |
He has stage 4 brain cancer.
by Anonymous | reply 214 | October 24, 2024 5:27 AM |
Sometimes I feel like this is the darkest timeline
by Anonymous | reply 215 | October 24, 2024 6:12 AM |
[quote] R15: Sometimes I feel like this is the darkest timeline
Go with the feeling.
by Anonymous | reply 217 | October 24, 2024 10:19 AM |
Maybe the Hitler love will sway some Undecideds.
by Anonymous | reply 218 | October 24, 2024 10:49 AM |
Which direction though, r218?
by Anonymous | reply 219 | October 24, 2024 10:50 AM |
The Hitler love is a feature, not a bug.
by Anonymous | reply 220 | October 24, 2024 1:33 PM |
It's not the new groping story. It's something else
by Anonymous | reply 221 | October 24, 2024 3:06 PM |
Trump is trans!
by Anonymous | reply 222 | October 24, 2024 3:16 PM |
[quote] It's not the new groping story. It's something else
Absolutely. But I'm now doubting it'll be reported by any reputable source.
by Anonymous | reply 223 | October 24, 2024 3:19 PM |
I do find the medical thing somewhat plausible - if he's literally got months to live that shoves JD Vance in the spotlight and they sure have been squirreling him away -- of course I could see the MAGA Cult seeing it as their duty and honor to make him President before he croaks
by Anonymous | reply 224 | October 24, 2024 3:30 PM |
If he croaks before the election they will just "Weekend at Bernie's" him and carry on.
by Anonymous | reply 225 | October 24, 2024 3:34 PM |
Okay, I know things are edgy right now but can we not wish each other dead, please?
by Anonymous | reply 226 | October 24, 2024 3:38 PM |
DIAGF R226!
by Anonymous | reply 227 | October 24, 2024 3:39 PM |
Reporters that the story was pushed to don't think it's true.
by Anonymous | reply 228 | October 24, 2024 3:41 PM |
[quote] I do find the medical thing somewhat plausible - if he's literally got months to live that shoves JD Vance in the spotlight and they sure have been squirreling him away -- of course I could see the MAGA Cult seeing it as their duty and honor to make him President before he croaks
Presidency ending, but not campaign ending.
by Anonymous | reply 229 | October 24, 2024 3:43 PM |
[quote] Reporters that the story was pushed to don't think it's true.
And they jumped online to wind everyone up about it anyway!
by Anonymous | reply 230 | October 24, 2024 3:50 PM |
A medical issue would be tough to ignore so this would be the most effective
by Anonymous | reply 231 | October 24, 2024 3:54 PM |
I’m finding this dubious. If it’s being shopped around why is no one saying what it is? And if it’s a video of Trump then that is in the public domain since he is a public figure.
by Anonymous | reply 232 | October 24, 2024 4:05 PM |
How does a medical issue implicate the possibility of a deepfake?
by Anonymous | reply 233 | October 24, 2024 4:07 PM |
Someone nailed it when explaining it's a cleverly devised distraction to the fascist stuff.
by Anonymous | reply 234 | October 24, 2024 4:15 PM |
I hear dying elderly people say, "Oh, I have good days and bad days...". And doesn't that describe Trump? Each appearance is different.
by Anonymous | reply 235 | October 24, 2024 4:53 PM |
If it's video, someone prominent or close to Trump at the time would have to say it's real.
For example, many people heard Trump say the N word during his Apprentice shoots. A recording of that would have to come with people saying they heard him say it
by Anonymous | reply 236 | October 24, 2024 5:22 PM |
I just saw that crazy Santos has been promising on social media since yesterday that he has a bombshell about Harris.
by Anonymous | reply 237 | October 24, 2024 5:55 PM |
Well, if Santos says he has something, who could possibly doubt him?
by Anonymous | reply 238 | October 24, 2024 5:56 PM |
How do you know this R228?
by Anonymous | reply 239 | October 24, 2024 6:00 PM |
He has secret robot legs but they've rusted from all the dripping piss and diarrhea so he's just stuck.
by Anonymous | reply 240 | October 24, 2024 6:06 PM |
Here’s Santos. Obviously, no one should believe anything he says.
by Anonymous | reply 241 | October 24, 2024 6:13 PM |
[quote] For example, many people heard Trump say the N word during his Apprentice shoots. A recording of that would have to come with people saying they heard him say it
Those tapes do exist. Mark Burnett controls them and thus far has not indicated any inclination or willingness to do so., I am pretty sure other production related people also taped Dump with their phones during production of the fictional reality show he starred in. The "N" word is the least of it. Imagine this fat fuck without a filter thinking he's king of the world because Mark Burnett created the illusion of what he always wanted to be and never was: A successful, respected businessman
by Anonymous | reply 242 | October 24, 2024 6:13 PM |
Santos looks ill. Sad last days?
by Anonymous | reply 243 | October 24, 2024 6:16 PM |
Georgie got his lips done. Poorly.
by Anonymous | reply 244 | October 24, 2024 6:17 PM |
If there were a tape showing Trump using the N-word, few would be surprised. It might cost him some support (if he actually has any) from Blacks who have decided to excuse his obvious racism, but it would not end his candidacy.
by Anonymous | reply 245 | October 24, 2024 6:17 PM |
If they're planning to vote for Trump, Black men are already all in. This is so clearly not the "story" being peddled.
by Anonymous | reply 246 | October 24, 2024 6:20 PM |
Maybe they have him on tape making cruel perverted comments about a troubled female celebrity who was underage at the time.
by Anonymous | reply 247 | October 24, 2024 6:25 PM |
R247, that & the suggestion that Trump used the N-word? Could Mark Halperin seriously believe that could not possibly be true?
by Anonymous | reply 248 | October 24, 2024 6:38 PM |
Bitches, I hate to break it to you, but the media has long had an unofficial "rule" about not breaking any major reveals about a presidential candidate in the two weeks prior to an election. We are now past that point. (That said, James Comey admittedly violated the rule in 2016, but OTOH him doing so may be the REASON Hillary lost, considering how narrow Trump's victory was.)
The final October surprises – the Kelly interview & Atlantic article – landed on Tuesday. Barring something extreme even by Trump standards coming out – e.g. secret recordings of his phone calls with the love of his life, Vladimir, admitting that he hopes he defeats all the "Nazis" in Ukraine – that's likely the last major tidbits we'll get.
by Anonymous | reply 249 | October 24, 2024 6:46 PM |
[quote]the media has long had an unofficial "rule" about not breaking any major reveals about a presidential candidate in the two weeks prior to an election.
While I have no knowledge of the facts of or the veracity of the facts surrounding the Dump Gropes The Little Girl video, I can tell you that in this media climate the unofficial rule you cited is more of a guideline and the policy in normal times was the public interest comes first. If there is a properly sourced, verifiable story, there are no policies official or otherwise that the major networks share about a 2-week grace period. CNN and ABC are not the fucking DOJ, they are for profit competitive news organizations with a passing interest in the welfare of the country.
All that aside, if something comes out, say for example if some pituitary case overgrown eagle scout who works for the DOJ parades himself in front of cameras and departs not only from DOJ policy but infers criminality without charging a someone... lets call him JIm fucking Comey every media org covered that ad nauseum days not weeks before the 2016 election
by Anonymous | reply 250 | October 24, 2024 6:56 PM |
[quote] Bitches, I hate to break it to you, but the media has long had an unofficial "rule" about not breaking any major reveals about a presidential candidate in the two weeks prior to an election.
I wish I had been the beneficiary of this "rule." I would've won Florida & the election Election Night 2000.
by Anonymous | reply 251 | October 24, 2024 7:05 PM |
Pedo
by Anonymous | reply 252 | October 24, 2024 7:08 PM |
I don’t even believe this alleged two-week rule exists as a guideline. The media’s obligation is to inform, not to protect campaigns.
by Anonymous | reply 253 | October 24, 2024 7:10 PM |
[quote]If there is a properly sourced, verifiable story, there are no policies official or otherwise that the major networks share about a 2-week grace period.
I LITERALLY WORK in the media. There is DEFINITELY an unofficial two-week pre-election window, and James Comey is a textbook example of its perils.
If it's a *legitimately* major, and correctly (and non-anonymously) sourced, story, that's one thing. But, again, short of a videotape of Trump assfucking Ivanka at age 12 or something similarly revolting even to Trumpists – a massive bar, to be sure – few such stories would qualify, e.g. whatever Trump's latest absurd conspiracy theory might be.
Btw "#KamalaGropedMe" was trending nearly all day yesterday on X thanks to Elon rigging the algorithms – and was explicitly pumped by Trumpists to try & dodge the Kelly reveals – but have you seen even a SINGLE news story about it?
by Anonymous | reply 254 | October 24, 2024 7:18 PM |
The "media" nowadays is far more than the traditional newspapers and TV channels. I'm sure if the story is juicy enough, someone will run it.
by Anonymous | reply 255 | October 24, 2024 7:21 PM |
[quote]I don’t even believe this alleged two-week rule exists as a guideline.
Have you already forgotten 2016 and Comey's "reopened FBI investigation" into Hillary's emails? I'm honestly not kidding that that may have singlehandedly ruined a Hillary victory – and it was what doomed America, along with much of the world, to the past eight years of hell. Democrats had a meltdown over it, and for good reason.
THAT is why it's in place. The Comey news was, of course, bullshit, and a "nothingburger" in fascist-speak.
by Anonymous | reply 256 | October 24, 2024 7:21 PM |
If there were something really terrible about Kamala out there, it would have been revealed a long time ago. Same for Trump--BUT if something has happened recently (like a brain tumor diagnosis) THAT would be news.
by Anonymous | reply 257 | October 24, 2024 7:22 PM |
Does anyone truly believe if Fox had some salacious stuff about Harris, it would honor the two week rule?
by Anonymous | reply 258 | October 24, 2024 7:23 PM |
No, i haven’t forgotten about it. In fact i was thinking about it as a counter-example to the alleged rule. Is it your contention that if the head of the FBI made such a statement today, the media would bury it?
by Anonymous | reply 259 | October 24, 2024 7:25 PM |
The media wants viewers. It will run anything at any time that will do that
by Anonymous | reply 260 | October 24, 2024 7:27 PM |
[quote] If it's a *legitimately* major, and correctly (and non-anonymously) sourced, story, that's one thing.
That's what wer are looking for babe, a fucking sourced and vetted story that fucking CBS news could report. Nobody is asking for an unsourced AI generated bullshit story. I don't know what you do when you are "LITERALLY WORKING IN THE MEDIA" but I have my doubts.
by Anonymous | reply 261 | October 24, 2024 7:28 PM |
BTW, Mark Halperin has also said there is something negative being peddled about Harris. In this instance, he believes it, but doesn't view it as a campaign killer.
by Anonymous | reply 262 | October 24, 2024 7:31 PM |
[quote]Does anyone truly believe if Fox had some salacious stuff about Harris, it would honor the two week rule?
Just to clarify: if anyone's going to violate this rule, it would ABSOLUTELY be Fox. (And they sure as fuck would report the Comey story if it was coming out this week about Harris.)
[quote]That's what wer are looking for babe, a fucking sourced and vetted story that fucking CBS news could report.
R261, the Comey story was "fucking sourced and vetted," and yet total bullshit that could've very well altered the outcome of the election. That alone is NOT enough. It needs to be sourced, vetted AND truly relevant.
by Anonymous | reply 263 | October 24, 2024 7:33 PM |
the Comey story DID alter the outcome of the election. Hillary's polls were trending upward right up until that Comey speech
by Anonymous | reply 264 | October 24, 2024 7:36 PM |
Vance is transitioning.
He’s been MIA for two weeks right at the big push for votes. Where is he?
by Anonymous | reply 265 | October 24, 2024 7:45 PM |
r263, what is your, um, role in the media?
by Anonymous | reply 266 | October 24, 2024 7:45 PM |
He delivers supermarket circulars.
by Anonymous | reply 267 | October 24, 2024 7:52 PM |
R266, I'm anon for a reason, but not the one you're suggesting. I'm literally forbidden under the terms of my employment contract to state any political opinions under my actual name. I work in news, not opinion – the latter is why I come HERE.
by Anonymous | reply 268 | October 24, 2024 7:52 PM |
The Justice Department supposedly has such a practice (not followed by Comey), but I've never heard of the media having anything similar. If they know something and it meets their usual standards in terms of vetting their sources, they'll report it.
by Anonymous | reply 269 | October 24, 2024 7:52 PM |
Is it the "Katie Johnson" story, which dtrump& Epstein raped the 13-year-old Katie Johnson. Epstein was quoted as saying "he should have cum first because dtrump got to fuck the virgin first?
by Anonymous | reply 270 | October 24, 2024 7:53 PM |
To R249, there are no more rules in journalism-dtrump, the Rethuglican party, Fox news, Jim Comey killed it.
by Anonymous | reply 271 | October 24, 2024 7:57 PM |
The Reagan administration killed the rules by eliminating the Fairness Doctrine.
by Anonymous | reply 272 | October 24, 2024 7:59 PM |
R271, please feel free to name any huge stories that broke in the final two weeks of the 2020 election.
R272, the Fairness Doctrine was specific to over-the-air broadcasts, meaning cable was excluded. Given that CNN was surging in popularity when Reagan killed it in '87, I think it was the correct call – but it has nothing to do with the two-week rule. (And now broadcast TV is nearly dead, so it's archaic at this point.)
by Anonymous | reply 273 | October 24, 2024 8:05 PM |
So r254/r263 can’t be Melissa Murray? I saw her drop two DL references the other day on Nicolle’s show I think…
by Anonymous | reply 274 | October 24, 2024 8:35 PM |
Hillary was done in by Comey and the unreported Trump payoff to Stormy Daniels. Plus there was Russian interference.
The media today will not pay attention to any rule. If it’s a credible story they will report it.
by Anonymous | reply 275 | October 24, 2024 8:40 PM |
R275, again, the problem is stories that *seem* credible, but end up being absolutely nothing. Comey is still the textbook example. And yes, she very likely would've won even absent the Stormy Daniels reveal. Also, how TF do you define "credible" in the first place? (particularly when one of the two candidates LITERALLY says almost nothing credible, meaning truthful)
Btw if something huge drops about ANY candidate before Election Day, I'll walk back everything I've said here. Will you?
by Anonymous | reply 276 | October 24, 2024 9:09 PM |
The story will hit the mainstream media if it is well sourced and meets the journalistic standards required to defend its release. Nobody suggested the media would run the story half-assed without meeting those standards.
by Anonymous | reply 277 | October 24, 2024 9:26 PM |
[quote] The Reagan administration killed the rules by eliminating the Fairness Doctrine.
Wrong. Cable news would never be controlled by the Fairness Doctrine.
by Anonymous | reply 278 | October 24, 2024 9:31 PM |
[quote] R271], please feel free to name any huge stories that broke in the final two weeks of the 2020 election.
The absence of a big story in 2020 doesn’t mean there can’t be one.
The Epstein groping story just broke yesterday. If it had been anyone but Trump, that would be a big story.
by Anonymous | reply 279 | October 24, 2024 9:35 PM |
For all of you blaming James Comey, I truly believe he was set up and it was something else. Perhaps this....
by Anonymous | reply 280 | October 24, 2024 9:37 PM |
Quick explainer re: R278: the only reason network TV is so fussy & prissy – and also once used this "equal sides" silliness – is because over-the-air networks are regulated by the FCC, which can fine each network for violating any of their rules. IIRC they once fined ABC $750,000 solely for not bleeping out Bono saying "fuck" after he won a Grammy or something.
Since Republicans, of course, despise regulations, and cable TV fully came of age in the Reagan-Bush era, they never made any attempt to have the FCC regulate cable as well. I'd call this a mixed blessing: while thankfully you can say almost anything on cable nowadays, unfortunately this extends to Fox News as well. They would have to be FAR more careful about nearly everything they air if they had the FCC breathing down their necks.
While Reagan did kill the doctrine, it never existed in the first place on cable. Nonetheless, the network news broadcasts are far more straightforward than, say, MSNBC, which nowadays is mostly opinion-driven in terms of its best-known programming.
by Anonymous | reply 281 | October 24, 2024 9:40 PM |
Tucker Carlson is fantasizing about Daddy Donald Trump spanking teenage girls:
by Anonymous | reply 282 | October 24, 2024 9:52 PM |
[quote] Since Republicans, of course, despise regulations, and cable TV fully came of age in the Reagan-Bush era, they never made any attempt to have the FCC regulate cable as well.
The FCC does regulate cable, but can’t regulate content, because, you know, the Constitution.
They have some authority over what is said on broadcast TV, that is, literally the shows sent from a broadcast tower, and that authority is over the local entity that sends the signal. That is because the airwaves are owned by the public.
by Anonymous | reply 283 | October 24, 2024 10:16 PM |
Yes, R283, I know. And I'm also wondering how this'll all work when "broadcast" TV disappears. At some point we'll have a "transition period" akin to the one where the FCC sent out converter boxes to everyone who still had an old-fashioned cathode ray-tube TV when they switched from analog to digital.
The next switch will remain digital, but it'll be a flip from cable to streaming. (You can already watch CBS & NBC live on Paramount+ and Peacock. Not sure why ABC hasn't followed suit.) While that will almost certainly bring up the issue of net neutrality again, that's all OT for purposes of this thread.
by Anonymous | reply 284 | October 24, 2024 10:24 PM |
In case you didn’t click on r282’s link, here’s a quote:
“ Dad [Trump] comes home and he’s pissed,” Carlson continues. “He’s not vengeful, he loves his children. Disobedient as they may be, he loves them … And when Dad gets home, you know what he says? You’ve been a bad girl. You’ve been a bad little girl and you’re getting a vigorous spanking right now. And no, it’s not going to hurt me more than it hurts you. No, it’s not. I’m not going to lie. It’s going to hurt you a lot more than it hurts me. And you earned this. You’re getting a vigorous spanking because you’ve been a bad girl, and it has to be this way.”
Carlson apparently has three adult daughters. Oh but he didn’t mean *them*, the so bad, very bad girl is the Democratic Party.
Maybe the “campaign-ending” video is Trump in bondage gear. Giving or receiving is uncertain.
by Anonymous | reply 285 | October 24, 2024 10:43 PM |
So we’ve gone from George Washington being the father of our county to … Donald F. Trump?!?
by Anonymous | reply 286 | October 24, 2024 10:48 PM |
[quote] Carlson apparently has three adult daughters.
Maybe that’s why he used the example of a girl instead of a boy. I would have used spanking a bad boy.
by Anonymous | reply 287 | October 24, 2024 11:13 PM |
That wouldn't work. MAGA fantasizes about fucking their daughters
by Anonymous | reply 288 | October 24, 2024 11:17 PM |
^ And there’s got to be a lot of inbreeding.
by Anonymous | reply 289 | October 24, 2024 11:23 PM |
I’m strongly against corporal punishment, other than a vicious face slap on adults only.
by Anonymous | reply 290 | October 24, 2024 11:23 PM |
Did Miss Carlson bang on their clitties while spanking his whore daughter's ass?
by Anonymous | reply 291 | October 24, 2024 11:27 PM |
You really still think it is the Comey investigation that sidelined Hillary? She had too much baggage to EVER win.
"She won the popular vote!"
Hahahahaha......so then how was she hurt by the "investigation"?
Her lousy campaigning policies leaving out key states doomed her to oblivion - if only she would stay there.
by Anonymous | reply 292 | October 25, 2024 4:41 PM |
Why, r292? You need company?
by Anonymous | reply 293 | October 25, 2024 4:44 PM |
[quote]You really still think it is the Comey investigation that sidelined Hillary? She had too much baggage to EVER win.
She was ahead in EVERY poll leading up to the election. By a lot.
Fuck off, cunttroll.
by Anonymous | reply 294 | October 25, 2024 4:49 PM |
Jim Comey should be awarded a DL Grease Fire trophy.
by Anonymous | reply 295 | October 25, 2024 4:52 PM |
[quote]"She won the popular vote!" so then how was she hurt by the "investigation"?
Exactly.
Funny how Hillary ignores the fact that she skipped campaigning in Wisconsin.
by Anonymous | reply 296 | October 25, 2024 4:57 PM |
Why do you need an October surprise? Kamala Harris is obviously 1170 billion points ahead in the polls
by Anonymous | reply 297 | October 25, 2024 4:59 PM |
Here at DL, we'll be rehashing the 2016 election well into the 23rd century.
by Anonymous | reply 298 | October 25, 2024 5:01 PM |
Not if we have anything to say about places for liberal fags to plot the destruction of western civilization!
by Anonymous | reply 299 | October 25, 2024 5:05 PM |
[quote] Here at DL, we'll be rehashing the 2016 election well into the 23rd century.
If she could live that long out of spite, Hillary would also still be rehashing the 2016 election.
by Anonymous | reply 300 | October 25, 2024 5:43 PM |
r300 is also:
*LA Times Editorial Editor: I QUIT*
[quote]It’s been reported that the paper has published many editorials excoriating Trump and praising Harris, so there’s been no problem for the editorial board to show its political bent. It’s the publisher’s prerogative to decide if their paper will do an endorsement of an office or not. The editor decided she wanted to be dramatic about it.
by Anonymous | reply 301 | October 25, 2024 5:56 PM |
George Santos gave an update an hour ago on Twitter about his bogus Kamala story. “Update on the VP Harris story and what is coming next! The truth will come out and there will be transparency! I will be back with you all once I get cover for legal exposure.” I can’t imagine anyone believing it.
by Anonymous | reply 302 | October 25, 2024 6:11 PM |
[quote]Why do you need an October surprise? Kamala Harris is obviously 1170 billion points ahead in the polls
She has spent like a billion dollars, which is mind-boggling.
by Anonymous | reply 303 | October 25, 2024 6:17 PM |
^ Jesus, isn't he in jail yet?
by Anonymous | reply 304 | October 25, 2024 6:17 PM |
To R300, Hillary raises a valid point& I always agree with Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi on the 2016 election.
Andy McCabe has said the same thing many times about Rethuglican Jim Comey& kneecapping Hillary Clinton in 2016.
by Anonymous | reply 305 | October 25, 2024 6:20 PM |
[quote] 0Jesus, isn't he in jail yet?
Santos is scheduled to be sentenced on February 7th, 2025. I don’t know why it takes so long.
by Anonymous | reply 306 | October 25, 2024 6:26 PM |
In retrospect I do not think the Comey letter was what doomed Hillary. It simply gave people who already did not want to support her an excuse to turn on her.
The unfortunate truth is that during the 2008 primary, the Obama campaign (not Obama himself, but members of the campaign) embraced a certain level of ageism and misogyny to defeat Hillary and those seeds grew into the disastrous Bernie Bros in 2016. There has subsequently been a backlash to the Bros, especially because the KHive hates them and has been very efficient in combating them. We just have to hope it is enough.
by Anonymous | reply 307 | October 25, 2024 6:32 PM |
[quote][r307 = In retrospect I do not think the Comey letter was what doomed Hillary
I do.
by Anonymous | reply 308 | October 25, 2024 6:35 PM |
I'm starting to think only Biden could have defeated Trump in 2016. The Clinton campaign was bad but most Dems would have also lost. Hope Harris proves me wrong this year.
by Anonymous | reply 309 | October 25, 2024 6:36 PM |
Well Hillary just called the MSG rally a "Nazi rally" and so Harris can than Hill for her incoming loss.
Hillary doesn't want another woman getting "her" spot.
by Anonymous | reply 310 | October 25, 2024 6:45 PM |
Hillary doomed Hillary. Plus Hillary being married to a guy who hung out on planes and islands with you know who.
by Anonymous | reply 311 | October 25, 2024 6:47 PM |
[quote] Plus Hillary being married to a guy who hung out on planes and islands with you know who.
I do think the residual stain from Bill hurt both Gore & Hillary. Ironic that Trump's (far more) toxic character may not doom his chances.
by Anonymous | reply 312 | October 25, 2024 6:53 PM |
Bill is baggage, that much is true. He would have been a bad First Spouse because he needs to be the biggest star in any room he’s in.
by Anonymous | reply 313 | October 25, 2024 6:58 PM |
Many voters will prefer Trump to Bill Clinton's faux-pious faux-feminist antics. Hillary knows Bill raped Juanita Broddick. So she just looks like such a huge hypocrite and she needed to sit this one out but no, up she pops to call Trump's rally a "Nazi rally", because she did so much good with that line of attack in 2016.
by Anonymous | reply 314 | October 25, 2024 7:01 PM |
Poor Hillary
by Anonymous | reply 315 | October 25, 2024 7:02 PM |
Just keeping it real, there are parts of the country where just seeing Hillary’s face again is going to drive some voters to the polls to vote against Harris. From a pure net effectiveness point of view, it would be better for her to be like George W.
by Anonymous | reply 317 | October 25, 2024 7:08 PM |
PARTS?
by Anonymous | reply 318 | October 25, 2024 7:09 PM |
How close to death do you think Bill is? He looks almost translucent like you can see through him. He's like a sex pest vampire.
by Anonymous | reply 320 | October 25, 2024 7:13 PM |
Who?
by Anonymous | reply 321 | October 25, 2024 7:18 PM |
Clinton, I assume.
by Anonymous | reply 322 | October 25, 2024 7:20 PM |
Kamala botched not being in front of camera non-stop during the hurricane and letting Trump get all the airtime convincing the public that Biden and Harris spent all the FEMA money on illegals. Other than that, Kamala has done things right… although her ads are pretty lame. What is hurting her is being attached to the most unpopular president in polling history.
by Anonymous | reply 323 | October 25, 2024 7:20 PM |
[quote]How close to death do you think Bill is?
It depends on whether or not Hillary has medical power of attorney for him.
by Anonymous | reply 324 | October 25, 2024 7:21 PM |
You aren't fooling anybody, r310. Your trolling is very subpar.
by Anonymous | reply 325 | October 25, 2024 7:23 PM |
What’s hurting her most of all is prices.
Every President in my lifetime who had a burst of inflation in his first term did not get a second. Before the 1970s, one-termers were rare. Then Ford, Carter and Bush 1 all lost . What did they have in common?
by Anonymous | reply 326 | October 25, 2024 7:24 PM |
The Hillary hater probably kept that PUMA nonsense going in 2016. Remember party unity my ass? That died a quick death once Trump won.
by Anonymous | reply 327 | October 25, 2024 7:26 PM |
Harris has run a good campaign but still suffers from not having a strong identity. Kamala is the I’m not Trump candidate.No big ideas or vision associated with her.
by Anonymous | reply 328 | October 25, 2024 7:29 PM |
Ford did not lost because of inflation. Carter did not lose because of inflation. Bush did not lose because of inflation.
by Anonymous | reply 329 | October 25, 2024 7:30 PM |
Clear your head of the "Dump might win garbage" and fucking vote. Harris will win this election if we get the turnout, please put your energy to that goal and shut out the noise. The noise is there to depress the vote. Don't be a receptacle for the garbage despair people are trying to foster.
by Anonymous | reply 330 | October 25, 2024 7:33 PM |
R323 how is the President who got more popular votes than anyone in history “unpopular”? People love Biden, they just think he is too old. (Which is a crazy double standard since Trump’s brain is Swiss cheese.)
by Anonymous | reply 331 | October 25, 2024 7:37 PM |
[quote] Ford did not lost because of inflation. Carter did not lose because of inflation. Bush did not lose because of inflation.
Just a coincidence then? Three episodes of inflation followed by three defeated incumbents, with the fourth burst of inflation about to take down another (by proxy)?
by Anonymous | reply 332 | October 25, 2024 7:40 PM |
Ford and Carter absolutely lost because of inflation Bush 1 also had a bad economy and that led to a Clinton win. I'm not sure why people think the economy isn't what most elections are about. I'ts always issue #1.
by Anonymous | reply 333 | October 25, 2024 7:41 PM |
Trump is the perfect solution to inflation. People have lost their fucking minds. We'll be spending $8 for a loaf of bread by February if he wins.
by Anonymous | reply 334 | October 25, 2024 7:44 PM |
[quote]how is the President who got more popular votes than anyone in history “unpopular”? People love Biden, they just think he is too old.
He was one of the most unpopular Presidents in history.
by Anonymous | reply 335 | October 25, 2024 7:44 PM |
R333 Ford lost because no Republican was going to win in 1976 after Watergate. Carter lost because of the Iran hostage crisis. Bush did have a bad economy but it had recovered by 1992 and Bush lost because of Ross Perot.
by Anonymous | reply 336 | October 25, 2024 7:48 PM |
I'm still waiting for the video of the Russian hooker pissing on him.
by Anonymous | reply 337 | October 25, 2024 8:04 PM |
WHY AREN'T I FIFTY POINTS AHEAD?!?
by Anonymous | reply 338 | October 25, 2024 8:19 PM |
Trump tanked the economy just like he’s tanked his own businesses a million times. It isn’t about the economy
by Anonymous | reply 339 | October 25, 2024 8:28 PM |
There was a breaking news alert from NYT an hour or so ago that the Chinese have apparently hacked Trump's and JD Vance's phones.
by Anonymous | reply 340 | October 25, 2024 8:42 PM |
Hillary looks awfully smooth at r316.
by Anonymous | reply 341 | October 25, 2024 8:51 PM |
[quote] Bush did have a bad economy but it had recovered by 1992 and Bush lost because of Ross Perot.
As has been discussed elsewhere on DL, senior Bush's bad economy was NOT related to inflation, but a recession, one that was improving by the election, but the damage to his re-election was already baked in.
by Anonymous | reply 343 | October 25, 2024 8:53 PM |
R341, she didn't vie or the title of America's Moistest Woman without reason
by Anonymous | reply 344 | October 25, 2024 8:53 PM |
Knowing there’s a good chance that Trump will become President again, I don’t think the Chinese will leak anything scandalous from the phone calls and increase Trump’s animus toward them.
by Anonymous | reply 345 | October 25, 2024 9:11 PM |
[quote] I don’t think the Chinese will leak anything scandalous from the phone calls and increase Trump’s animus toward them.
Trump knows what is on his phone and apparently so do the Chinese, sometimes it is more effective to just hang on to the information you have than release it. Let Trump know that you know but just hang on to it. The way Putin has hung on to the pee tapes.
by Anonymous | reply 346 | October 25, 2024 9:42 PM |
[quote]WHY AREN'T I FIFTY POINTS AHEAD?!?
You know, why doesn't anyone ask this of Trump? Are the other 50% stupid?
by Anonymous | reply 347 | October 25, 2024 9:44 PM |
I dont think the Chinese actually want Trump to win, they like half of American think he's crazy and that scares them since he's finger is on the button. It's harder to negotiate or play chicken with a guy who's unhinged. It's easier to play chess when both sides respect the rules.
by Anonymous | reply 348 | October 25, 2024 9:47 PM |
[quote]No big ideas or vision associated with her.
Yes there are, r328.
by Anonymous | reply 349 | October 25, 2024 9:52 PM |
Another nothing burger.
He's gonna win. Might as well prepare ourselves for it.
by Anonymous | reply 350 | October 25, 2024 9:53 PM |
[quote] As has been discussed elsewhere on DL, senior Bush's bad economy was NOT related to inflation, but a recession, one that was improving by the election, but the damage to his re-election was already baked in.
Inflation peaked at 5.4% in 1990 and was over 4% in 1991. You can’t simply declare it irrelevant. It happened and he lost.
by Anonymous | reply 351 | October 25, 2024 9:58 PM |
[quote] Another nothing burger.
You’re missing the point. The news that Trump and Vance’s e-mails have been hacked by China is not the anticipated story, but rather a hint at what the story may be. What if China is trying to leak some of the information they have? That could be the story.
by Anonymous | reply 352 | October 25, 2024 10:01 PM |
Do try harder, r350.
by Anonymous | reply 353 | October 25, 2024 10:02 PM |
Try harder at what?
by Anonymous | reply 354 | October 25, 2024 10:04 PM |
Stop bumping this thread and giving everyone a false sense of hope that the bullshit OP posted is true. There’s plenty of other threads to discuss all the other unrelated dumb shit you’re talking about in here.
by Anonymous | reply 355 | October 25, 2024 10:04 PM |
I don't know about anybody else, but don't care for these 'teasers.' Either put up or shut up.
by Anonymous | reply 356 | October 25, 2024 10:09 PM |
There is a damning story being circulated that has the Trumpers very agitated and the media very wary. We may never know what it is, but its existence and the tea leaves (like the China hacking story) are interesting to some of us.
If that is not interesting to you, go away. I’m quite sure if the story ever breaks, you will not need to be here to hear about it.
by Anonymous | reply 357 | October 25, 2024 10:16 PM |
I agree with the poster above that the only thing that could destroy Trump’s campaign is proof of pedophilia. The MAGAts don’t care about him being a rapist (of adults), committing treason that results in multiple people’s death, or hiring Russian prostitutes to piss on him so it would have to be worse than any of that.
by Anonymous | reply 358 | October 25, 2024 10:29 PM |
I video of him stomping on a dog's head would do the trick too.
by Anonymous | reply 359 | October 25, 2024 11:17 PM |
Or eating one.
by Anonymous | reply 360 | October 25, 2024 11:32 PM |
There is no story!
There is no campaign busting scandal about to break!
This is bullshit put out by MAGA hoping to distract us from the Kelly statement and the new Republican endorsements for Harris.
With that out of the way continue the speculation. It’s always a good time smearing Trump.
by Anonymous | reply 361 | October 25, 2024 11:39 PM |
When people say things like, "There's no big vision or plan associated with Kamala Harris," I think two things. (1) They're not paying attention. And (2) their idea of an inspiring, visionary candidate is someone like Trump who spouts crazy slogans and takes them on an emotional roller-coaster ride.
They can't support a good, capable, articulate candidate who merely respects the Constitution and can handle the duties of office; they want a candidate who entertains them. The childish American voter who demands bread and circuses is going to doom us all.
by Anonymous | reply 362 | October 25, 2024 11:40 PM |
R362, it was the same shit with Dubya. Idiotic Americans voted for this slob because he seemed like a fun guy, someone you'd like to have a beer with, as opposed to the stuffed shirt Al Gore. And how did Bush's 8 years as president end? With the worst recession in the United States since the Great Depression and the near collapse of the US banking system.
You're voting for the President of the United States, one of the most powerful people in the world. You're not voting for prom queen or student council president, assholes.
by Anonymous | reply 363 | October 25, 2024 11:49 PM |
[quote] Inflation peaked at 5.4% in 1990 and was over 4% in 1991. You can’t simply declare it irrelevant. It happened and he lost.
In 1991, the inflation rate was 3.1%. In 1992, the election year, it was 2.9%. When Bush successfully ran in 1988, it was 4.4%. So for the 2nd half of his administration, inflation was not an issue. The recession was. I don't know how old you are, but I'm old enough to remember the recession of the early '90s.
by Anonymous | reply 364 | October 26, 2024 12:25 AM |
Bush 1 also lost because of "Read my lips, no new taxes" (thank you drunken old slag Peggy Noonan). And then he raised them, which pissed off the libertarian wing of the GOP who voted for crazy Ross Perot.
by Anonymous | reply 365 | October 26, 2024 1:29 AM |
[quote] In 1991, the inflation rate was 3.1%. In 1992, the election year, it was 2.9%.
The peaks I mentioned were accurate. The point I made was not that there has to be high inflation on Election Day. It was that if there was ANY high inflation in a President’s first term, he did not get a second term. That has been true my entire life, except for Reagan who was not blamed for high inflation that persisted from Carter’s term. And it is why today, despite record stock markets, the highest growth in the word, extremely low unemployment and other positive measures, the people overwhelmingly say the economy is bad. Because of higher prices. That is the only explanation for this perception.
by Anonymous | reply 366 | October 26, 2024 1:40 AM |
True, R365, but he was presumed sailing to easy reelection the spring of '91, after the Gulf War ended. It was the recession that gave Pat Buchanan the opening to challenge him for the nomination.
by Anonymous | reply 367 | October 26, 2024 1:41 AM |
I was around back then, people thought Bush was out of touch and not acknowledging the price of things and instead tried to totally side step it by talking about other issues. One protester showed up with a sign that said "IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID!" and it went viral on all the network news channels at the time. That was the big turning point. It crystalized the mood of the country and he looked out of touch by not addressing it.
People still use that phrase today sometimes it was that pivotal.
by Anonymous | reply 368 | October 27, 2024 12:29 PM |
It wasn't a protester, R368.
"The economy, stupid" is a phrase that was coined by Jim Carville in 1992. It is often quoted from a televised quip by Carville as "It’s the economy, stupid." Carville was a strategist in Bill Clinton's successful 1992 U.S. presidential election against incumbent George H. W. Bush. His phrase was directed at the campaign's workers and intended as one of three messages for them to focus on. The others were "Change vs. more of the same" and "Don't forget health care."
by Anonymous | reply 369 | October 27, 2024 12:32 PM |
The country was in a recession, that eased in early 1991 (March to be specific). From Google: Consumers (CPI-U) increased 3.1 percent in 1991, following a 6.1-percent advance in 1990. ' The 1991 price rise was the lowest annual rate of increase since a 1.1-percent ad vance was posted in 1986, and the second smallest since 1967.
by Anonymous | reply 370 | October 27, 2024 2:10 PM |
The key statistic in that post is “a 6.1-percent advance in 1990.” My argument is that a surge in prices is “sticky.” People may be relieved that prices later stopped climbing as fast, but the prices generally don’t come back down after they stop soaring. They stay up. And voters (wrongly) blame the President. Prices become a powerful symbol for the economy, because they affect everyone.
Ford, Carter, Bush all were defeated and Harris (who likely has inherited the illogical blame Biden carries) is doing much worse in the polls even against the unpopular and disgraced Trump.
In all cases there were other factors at play, but higher prices are a powerful headwind against an incumbent.
by Anonymous | reply 371 | October 27, 2024 2:20 PM |
^worse than she should against a tired, defeated, old challenger.
by Anonymous | reply 372 | October 27, 2024 2:23 PM |
[quote]Bush 1 also lost because of "Read my lips, no new taxes"
Which wasn't agood thing to say because most people can't read lips.
by Anonymous | reply 373 | October 27, 2024 2:24 PM |
[quote] My argument is that a surge in prices is “sticky.” People may be relieved that prices later stopped climbing as fast, but the prices generally don’t come back down after they stop soaring. They stay up. And voters (wrongly) blame the President.
No one bothered to tell that to the many top-tiered Democrats who, in 1991, took a pass on a presidential run because they then thought Bush unbeatable.
by Anonymous | reply 374 | October 27, 2024 2:28 PM |
I see the Rupert Murdoch squad his landed on this thread.
by Anonymous | reply 375 | October 27, 2024 2:33 PM |
R371, she is not doing “much worse” in the polls, she actually is even with Dump re trust with the economy.
by Anonymous | reply 376 | October 27, 2024 2:45 PM |
I think it’s too late for any October Surprise, whether against Trump or Harris
by Anonymous | reply 377 | October 27, 2024 2:49 PM |
Much worse than she should be doing consider the otherwise strong economy, abortion, and Trump’s weakness as a candidate.
by Anonymous | reply 378 | October 27, 2024 2:50 PM |
R378… let’s talk about the elephant in the room. She is a black woman. If she were an equivalent white male, running the same campaign she’s been running, Dump would have already rolled over and played dead.
She really has, so far, run an excellent campaign.
by Anonymous | reply 379 | October 27, 2024 2:56 PM |
[quote] I think it’s too late for any October Surprise, whether against Trump or Harris
Not so.
by Anonymous | reply 380 | October 27, 2024 2:59 PM |
There are lots of factors at play, both in terms of the candidates and the issues, but I think past inflation is the reason most people say the economy is weak when it is actually quite strong, and the economy is always the most important issue.
by Anonymous | reply 381 | October 27, 2024 3:03 PM |
Kamala should be borrowing a page from the financial industry and point out that "past performance is no guarantee of future results." I've heard so many people say a variation of, "All I know is my grocery bill was much lower under Trump." That means nothing for what prices will be the next four years.
by Anonymous | reply 382 | October 27, 2024 3:13 PM |
We're about to find out 80 million American voters despise democracy, despise freedom, despise everything America has stood for the last 250 years and love a pissy, arrogant, self-absorbed egomaniac with the emotional maturity of an 11 year old and want him as a dictator for life.
by Anonymous | reply 383 | October 27, 2024 3:19 PM |
I think for a lot of MAGA (and let's be fair, some on the far left like the TikTokers for Palestine), the world is just too complex to comprehend. And putting in the work of reading credible sources to learn what's really going on is too hard for them. Better to sit back and let the dictator/Daddy make all of the decisions (as long as he takes care of them and their tribe). They want a simple answer to everything but life doesn't work that way.
by Anonymous | reply 384 | October 27, 2024 3:32 PM |
If that’s true, I can see why they are afraid to touch it. Total hornets nest.
BTW, if you change the domain from x.com to twitter.com in the link, the post will show up.
(Don’t tell Muriel.)
by Anonymous | reply 386 | October 27, 2024 3:42 PM |
That makes more sense than the groping take. Trump groping is baked in.
by Anonymous | reply 387 | October 27, 2024 3:43 PM |
The "assassination" attempt was some sort of twisted Trump publicity stunt that went awry, R385.
Who didn't know that? I knew as soon as I heard about it that the whole thing smelled like week old fish left out in the sun.
And the fact that numerous trolls were working overtime to discredit anybody who suggested it was fake only hardened my belief it was fake.
by Anonymous | reply 388 | October 27, 2024 3:45 PM |
Hopefully Kamala will win and all this dirt will come out afterward. Good lord, if that is what happened in Butler, and Dump knew, they need to walk him off in handcuffs.
by Anonymous | reply 389 | October 27, 2024 3:45 PM |
There is something very weird about the assassination attempt. I can’t get over the people who got shot - I can’t believe even Republicans would do that. But Trump’s fist pump, his low key attitude about it, and the embarrassingly bad Secret Service response, plus the imperceptible graze. It just seems out of a script.
by Anonymous | reply 390 | October 27, 2024 3:46 PM |
The October Surprise is that Trump is a Reality Show Candidate who is detached from reality.
Trump is all about his numbers.
Even if it means 600 THOUSAND Americans die from Covid.
by Anonymous | reply 391 | October 27, 2024 3:51 PM |
[quote] And the fact that numerous trolls were working overtime to discredit anybody who suggested it was fake only hardened my belief it was fake.
I was one of those "trolls."
by Anonymous | reply 392 | October 27, 2024 3:53 PM |
I don’t believe the assassination attempt was staged. Trump would surely be willing to sacrifice a few supporters, but he couldn’t do it alone and someone would have talked.
There’s a reason this story has not seen the light of day.
by Anonymous | reply 393 | October 27, 2024 3:53 PM |
The attempt may have been real, but the bullet graze was nonsense. Trump knew that he wasn't hit in any way, but by a fingernail of an SS agent
by Anonymous | reply 394 | October 27, 2024 3:58 PM |
[quote]There’s a reason this story has not seen the light of day.
Only time will tell!
by Anonymous | reply 395 | October 27, 2024 4:04 PM |
The Butler Orchestrated Assassination Attempt was a made for TV event made possible by a Secret Service who COORDINATED the "attempt". Nobody told The Shooter it was orchestrated. He was to be "discovered" right before he was supposed to shoot.
Plan B was to kill the shooter and leave no evidence.
Did anyone figure out that The Shooter was cast? He never expected to die. But knowing Republicans, he was expected to die AFTER a FAKED FAILED attempt.
The Secret Service, all of those men with the sanitized cell phones from 1/6 need to be indicted for treason.
by Anonymous | reply 396 | October 27, 2024 4:04 PM |
Anyone with a brain already thinks as much R385/R386. Nothing would surprise me now.
If it's concrete and credible proof that it was staged then I don't understand why the press won't touch it. Therefore, it must not be credible - they would run it otherwise.
I still don't think it would make one iota of difference to Trump's numbers or supporters. They will just say it's fake news, already been debunked, a Democrat plot or that it's just Trump being Trump - what a huge joker he is.
by Anonymous | reply 397 | October 27, 2024 4:14 PM |
[quote]I still don't think it would make one iota of difference to Trump's numbers or supporters.
Please remember nobody in the Harris campaign is putting energy or attention on Dump supporters, they are gone, lost and irretrievable. The Harris Campaign is laser focused (increasingly successfully) only on persuadable voters. A very narrowband of the electorate, but in this cycle they are an impactful demographic.
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by Anonymous | reply 398 | October 27, 2024 4:20 PM |
R386, isn't it scary how staging an assassination attempt is worse than groping an 11 year old?
R398, is correct. Someone told me yesterday he's not voting for a best friend; just someone who can make the economy better.
But there's nothing you can say to change anyone's mind. I can ask how's the stock market doing? They say, "Wellllll, you have to look at the big picture...." (Meaning it's doing great but Biden will get no credit for this.)
What's Kamala done in her four years as VP? You can reply with what did Trump do in his four years as President? Why didn't Mexico pay for the wall? Why didn't it get built? What's his health plan? What about his former cabinet members saying he shouldn't be president ever again?
No. Nada. Nothing is ever going to change anyone's mind.
Even if it's not close and Kamala wins by a landslide, he'll say it was stolen. There will be problems -- who knows to what degree?
Isn't he going to be sentenced in late November? What a mess.
by Anonymous | reply 399 | October 27, 2024 4:28 PM |
Yes I do know and remember that R398. But it's also not going to make any difference to the minute amount of persuadable voters or undecided voters out there either. All those people care about is the economy and tax breaks. I call the them "what's in it for me" voters and they don't care about anything except money and they think Trump is better for their bottom line.
by Anonymous | reply 400 | October 27, 2024 4:31 PM |
[quote] If it's concrete and credible proof that it was staged then I don't understand why the press won't touch it. Therefore, it must not be credible - they would run it otherwise.
Agreed. There would have to be incontrovertible proof. Any less, and the resulting backlash would redound to Trump's benefit.
by Anonymous | reply 401 | October 27, 2024 4:34 PM |
They would deny incontrovertible proof without batting an eye. Loudly and aggressively. If you watched JD Vance face off Jake Tapper, when Tapper literally quotes Trump and Vance just attacks him, you have a preview of the possible dystopia we face,
by Anonymous | reply 402 | October 27, 2024 4:41 PM |
Exactly R402.
by Anonymous | reply 403 | October 27, 2024 4:45 PM |
Or watch Megyn Kelly on Bill Maher. “Republicans have been called fascists for years” is her answer to Miley and Kelly.
by Anonymous | reply 404 | October 27, 2024 4:46 PM |
[quote] All those people care about is the economy and tax breaks. I call the them "what's in it for me" voters and they don't care about anything except money and they think Trump is better for their bottom line.
You have to look at why people remain undecided at this late stage and with all the evidence of failure, lies and demonstrated incompetence from Donald Dump. You mention the economy and taxes as this demo's main concern. I believe it also expands to Dobbs/ Abortion rights and Democracy/avoiding a dictatorship.
If people were not persuadable on those issues, they would not BE undecided. That is where both campaigns are focused but in very different ways. So even in if your premise is true, most undecideds are not committed to either candidate. Statistically, they lean 2-1 to Harris. I believe Harris is making the more successful play for these voters based on the data I have seen. There is also data NOBODY has seen because it hasn't been captured, so we will see ...
by Anonymous | reply 405 | October 27, 2024 4:51 PM |
An investigation into the 1st Trump assassination attempt will expose Trump's total control of his Secret Service detail as the seeds of his own private army.
by Anonymous | reply 406 | October 27, 2024 4:54 PM |
“They” would deny incontrovertible proof. But there are other, more persuadable, voters who would not.
by Anonymous | reply 407 | October 27, 2024 4:57 PM |
Isn’t it possible the shooter’s father is the one with plausible evidence?
by Anonymous | reply 408 | October 27, 2024 5:02 PM |
Did I miss whatever was to be breaking?
by Anonymous | reply 409 | October 27, 2024 5:03 PM |
[quote]Did I miss whatever was to be breaking?
I think we all did.
by Anonymous | reply 410 | October 27, 2024 5:04 PM |
I hope whatever it is gets revealed tonight during Trump’s Nazi rally tonight at Madison Square Garden.
by Anonymous | reply 411 | October 27, 2024 5:05 PM |
Curious that there has been so little official information revealed about the shooting. They seem to be waiting until after the election. Why?
by Anonymous | reply 412 | October 27, 2024 5:08 PM |
He could rape a baby tonight at MSG while doing a Seig Heil salute and it won't move the needle.
by Anonymous | reply 413 | October 27, 2024 5:45 PM |
How about a health issue? A TERMINAL HEALTH ISSUE.
by Anonymous | reply 414 | October 27, 2024 5:51 PM |
Perhaps that’s why he made his entrance at a rally yesterday using the Undertakers Theme and wearing a black MAGA cap, R414.
by Anonymous | reply 415 | October 27, 2024 6:04 PM |
Cue Ave Maria!
by Anonymous | reply 416 | October 27, 2024 6:14 PM |
They are going to sacrifice Lindsey Graham, like The Night of the Long Knives II.
by Anonymous | reply 417 | October 27, 2024 7:28 PM |
I said way upthread that the only "breaking news" that could affect Trump is if the assassinations attempt(s) were proven staged.
Too bad it's not coming out. But I guess it would have to be truly a smoking gun. Or non smoking gun in this case.
by Anonymous | reply 418 | October 27, 2024 7:36 PM |
Rebekah Jones is not exactly known for being a reliable source.
by Anonymous | reply 419 | October 27, 2024 7:59 PM |
I wish Twitter would blow up
by Anonymous | reply 420 | October 27, 2024 11:00 PM |
Dr Phil now speaking at the Madison Square Garden Trump rally. He's calling the Democrats bullies with mob mentality and boycotts.
Um, OK I want my Bud Light beer back then.
by Anonymous | reply 421 | October 27, 2024 11:03 PM |
Almost every maga accusation is a projection.
by Anonymous | reply 422 | October 27, 2024 11:06 PM |
Yet another moment to say thank you, fucking Oprah.
by Anonymous | reply 423 | October 27, 2024 11:13 PM |
Is Dr Oz there?
by Anonymous | reply 424 | October 27, 2024 11:20 PM |
I only watched 5 minutes of Douche Phill, apparently he's starting his own "network" so basically this is an ad for him. Just what we need, another MAGA news outlet.
by Anonymous | reply 425 | October 27, 2024 11:21 PM |
R422 not almost. EVERYTHING.
by Anonymous | reply 426 | October 27, 2024 11:21 PM |
I remember when Dr. Oz first announced his political ambitions. I just knew he was going to be a sane Republican, cause he’s so fucking sexy. Come to find out he’s a MAGA too. I used to love him.
by Anonymous | reply 427 | October 27, 2024 11:23 PM |
Gouliani was there, they gave him a standing ovation the day after being told he needs to pay up for breaking the law. Repugs celebrate acutal law beakers and yet whine about "those other people" just for crossing the border.
by Anonymous | reply 428 | October 27, 2024 11:24 PM |
Dr. Oz, Dr Phil both got their start from a liberal talk show. What a bunch of shills.
Elon too, got his start from millions of free money for startup from California then turned on them. Also a shill.
by Anonymous | reply 429 | October 27, 2024 11:27 PM |
I'm not watching this shitshow, but are they running ads on the chyron for Ivermectin, Trump watches, or Trump Bibles?
by Anonymous | reply 430 | October 28, 2024 1:07 AM |
R424, I think Mr van pragh is talking to Ivanna.
by Anonymous | reply 431 | October 28, 2024 2:41 AM |
MAGA gets pissed when you call them racist and then make racist jokes on national TV and wonder why they are being accused of being racist. MAGA logic is more twisted than a pretzel.
by Anonymous | reply 432 | October 28, 2024 4:10 AM |
Who knew! The “something big about to break against Trump” ended up being Trump’s own NYC rally.
by Anonymous | reply 433 | October 28, 2024 4:18 AM |
Usually comedy is rooted in truth. The joke doesn’t even work because PR is not popularly known as a shithole. It’s a US territory, it doesn’t have high crime like a lot of the Caribbean islands, it’s not impoverished. It may not be the most advanced society but it’s widely known as an island full of beautiful people and the simple life. Mean spirited jokes ONLY work when it has something that connects it to reality. Just seems like a dumb cracka millennial who said hmm PR—brown people,—island—garbage, I’m edgy. But the shit corny.
by Anonymous | reply 435 | October 28, 2024 4:24 AM |
Just like hate, racism IS THE POINT.
The only down side for them is hopefully the Puerto Ricans will hear this stuff and turn against him.
by Anonymous | reply 436 | October 28, 2024 4:25 AM |
R414 you reminded me of Ginny Tillman asking her daughter about why her ex-husband's girlfriend was out of the picture: [italic] "is she ill????" [/italic]
by Anonymous | reply 437 | October 28, 2024 4:32 AM |
Where the fuck has The Daily Beast been? The racism, cruelty and misogyny IS the point!
Nobody is going to change their vote because they admitted it was a racist Nazi rally.
Fuck, I’m sure plenty of Jewish people who want Gaza razed to the ground will still vote for these piles of shit.
by Anonymous | reply 438 | October 28, 2024 5:34 AM |
Hate Fest 2025 was brilliant for Republicans to announce we hate everyone except White Evangelical men.
Hour after hour of MAGAts saying that their 27% hates everyone else.
A brilliant closing argument for voting FOR DEMOCRATS.
by Anonymous | reply 439 | October 28, 2024 12:03 PM |
WEHT the first Trump shooter?
by Anonymous | reply 440 | October 28, 2024 3:28 PM |
He dead.
by Anonymous | reply 441 | October 28, 2024 3:31 PM |
He got shot dead R440 you idiot.
by Anonymous | reply 442 | October 28, 2024 3:34 PM |
Any way to access the Daily Beast article without paying?
by Anonymous | reply 443 | October 28, 2024 3:56 PM |
To all those Republicans who shed crocodile tears because their feelings were so hurt that people were calling Donald Trump a fascist: Stop.
To all the MAGA defenders who said it was over-the-top to compare Trump’s Madison Square Garden rally to that held by the German-American Bund in an earlier incarnation of Madison Square Garden: Shush.
To all those who were falling once again for the bought-and-paid-for narrative that Trump somehow had the momentum going into the final week of campaign 2024: Nope.
On Sunday at MSG, Donald Trump engineered what will be seen by political analysts and later by historians as the coup de grâce that killed forever his prospects of being president and may well have set him on a post-election course on which he finally may be held accountable for his actions.
The interminable rally concluded by an interminable, disjointed, incoherent and yet clearly vile speech by the former president, might have been touted by Trump’s son Don Jr., one of his warm-up acts, as the “King of New York returning to reclaim his crown.” But Trump was never the King of New York. (Sorry, Lara, your father-in-law did not “build” New York. Immigrants did. But we’ll get to that in a minute.)
Trump has always been loathed in New York City, especially in his former home borough of Manhattan where the vote against him was and will be dependably over 80 percent. But if he was hated before, rest assured he will be more despised after tonight.
That was clear early on when Tony Hinchcliffe, a man invited by Trump to give one of the introductory speeches—who in true MAGA fashion alleged without providing a shred of evidence that he was a comedian—offered a KKK buffet of nauseating slurs. He called Puerto Rico “a floating island of garbage.”
The “joke” was as stupid as it was repulsive because there are almost 600,000 Puerto Ricans in New York City and many more spread across regions of vital importance in the upcoming election. It also happened to come on a day when Vice President Kamala Harris announced her detailed and thoughtful plan for Puerto Rico, an island Trump wanted to trade to Denmark in exchange for Greenland.
But this loser did not stop there. He offered unfunny commentary about his view that Latinos “love making babies” and a reference to how his Black friends liked carving watermelons.
You might think that a few super-racist comments from one speaker might not warrant comments that compared the Trump rally to the Nazi meeting 85 years ago. But his comments were hardly the worst. And the racism and the hate and incitement to violence and the promise of an increasingly authoritarian state continued from the very beginning of the event to the very end.
One speaker said that Harris was managed by “pimp handlers” and said of Democrats that “we need to slaughter these other people.” Disgraced and destitute former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani said, as did several others, that Democrats were behind attempts to kill Donald Trump. Another speaker called Harris “the devil” and “the antichrist.”
Former Trump aide Stephen Miller, as is his habit, went directly for the Nazi playbook saying, “America is for Americans and Americans only.” Tucker Carlson came out to offer more racist slurs about Harris. Hulk Hogan ripped his shirt off while declaring he saw no Nazis in the audience (thus proving that steroid abuse can not only shrivel up your junk but that it’s not really good for your eyesight either).
Elon Musk was there acting strangely and promising to slash the size of the government (except, presumably, the parts that are subsidizing his businesses).
by Anonymous | reply 444 | October 28, 2024 4:09 PM |
As an aside, it is worth noting the irony of Musk appearing at a rally condemning illegal immigration when recent revelations seem to confirm that he himself was an illegal immigrant. That’s not just hypocrisy. If he lied about any aspect of his citizenship status or journey when filling out the forms required to get the Top Secret clearance that this phone pal of Vladimir Putin has, it’s a felony and could not only cause his clearances to be revoked it could be bad news for his businesses and frankly his ability to stay in the United States. No wonder he is all in for the only “politician” in America who would pardon his crimes in a heartbeat.
Trump attacked the media, and egged the crowd on to boo journalists in the crowd. He said migrants had taken over Times Square (which is nine blocks uptown from where the rally was held). He called the U.S. an occupied country which, while bad, may be better than his reference to it as a garbage can the other day. He called Harris a “low-IQ individual.” He offered so many lies that cable networks tuned him out because it was impossible to keep up with fact-checking him. He returned to old themes like the bizarre notion that Harris would reinstate the draft and start World War III.
Most importantly from the perspective of confirming his fascism he reiterated at length his assertion that his opponents were “enemies of the people.” (You know the ones against whom he promised to unleash the U.S. military.) He called them “the most sinister and corrupt forces on Earth.”
In other words the entire event, despite its marathon length and hodgepodge of z-list speakers, delivered over and over again a very focused message. The Trump campaign is about retribution and revenge. It is about the white supremacist desire to purge America of all their neighbors of different colors and beliefs. It is about Trump’s desire to seek out his enemies and punish them. And over the course of its Wagnerian length (and resonances) it singled out group after group that would be deported or punished.
From a political perspective the strategy is pure suicide. The rally will almost certainly alienate more voters who might have voted for Trump and it is hard to imagine it has earned him one single new vote. (Unless there is a Franz Liebkind somewhere who has been too busy writing “Springtime for Hitler” to have paid attention to the campaign until now.) It was a play to the base when the biggest problem Trump has in this election is breaking through his rock solid ceiling of around 47 percent of the electorate.
But worse still, unlike the Bund rally, Trump’s was not a fringe affair. It was led by a former President of the United States on behalf of very nearly half of the American people.
Its threats of authoritarianism were supported by efforts during the first Trump presidency to sidestep the rule of law and by crimes including a coup attempt we all saw with our own eyes. Its future plans for concentration camps in the U.S. and for mass deportations and the use of the military against the American people have been carefully developed, and there is a plan to put them in place.
That is why Trump’s Sunday rally at Madison Square Garden was, as it turned out, far more ominous than its predecessor. It should chill Americans to the bone. But, I expect it will do more than that. I believe it will mobilize more voters to take action on Nov. 5 to stop the 21st-century fascism of Trump and MAGA.
Trump may be thinking the rally will help him mobilize thugs to violence when he contests his loss and we should be wary of that. But he has provided on the eve of the election the best case why he must be defeated that has ever been presented. In the end, because what unfolded was so foul and so offensive and threatening to so many of us, I believe that is why we will someday conclude that for all intents and purposes Trump’s final political act occurred on the biggest stage in America’s biggest city, a couple of blocks from Broadway.
by Anonymous | reply 445 | October 28, 2024 4:10 PM |
[quote] Any way to access the Daily Beast article without paying?
Much of it is on Apple News if you subscribe to that.
by Anonymous | reply 446 | October 28, 2024 4:12 PM |
The Trumpsters think they are being real and talking like regular Americans. That shit worked in 2016 but working class white women are now completely turned off by it.
by Anonymous | reply 447 | October 28, 2024 4:12 PM |
Nothing is political suicide for Trump. The rally went exactly as her planned--full of hatred for immigrants.
by Anonymous | reply 448 | October 28, 2024 4:15 PM |
[quote] The Trumpsters think they are being real and talking like regular Americans. That shit worked in 2016 but working class white women are now completely turned off by it.
White women, especially white working class women, STILL vote for Trump and the GOP by a majority. They will likely continue that trend this election. They just laugh off Trump's racism.
by Anonymous | reply 449 | October 28, 2024 4:16 PM |
Yes, R449. A lot of wishcasting here.
by Anonymous | reply 450 | October 28, 2024 4:18 PM |
I know they will. But not in numbers like they did in 2016.
by Anonymous | reply 451 | October 28, 2024 4:30 PM |
[quote] I used to love him
I'm disappointed in you Prince Akeem. I thought you had better taste. I thought he was soooo cheeezy, especially when he did those "crime investigation" shows , where he made a big deal of slapping on those rubber gloves with a serious look in his eyebrows.
Never failed to give me a big laugh. Got me through a rough colon surgery.
by Anonymous | reply 452 | October 28, 2024 4:46 PM |
[quote]White women, especially white working class women, STILL vote for Trump and the GOP by a majority. They will likely continue that trend this election. They just laugh off Trump's racism.
They will not give up their reproductive rights.
by Anonymous | reply 453 | October 28, 2024 4:52 PM |
[quote] I'm disappointed in you Prince Akeem.
Now ju know how I feels.
by Anonymous | reply 454 | October 28, 2024 5:01 PM |
[quote] They will not give up their reproductive rights
They actually believe Trump when he says that he's not for a national ban and "leave it to the states!" (which actually means let the conservative states put up tons of roadblocks so residents can't vote to allow abortion.)
by Anonymous | reply 455 | October 28, 2024 5:08 PM |
R454 as a former 11 yr old, I get you.
by Anonymous | reply 456 | October 28, 2024 5:26 PM |
Trump is getting gender reassignment surgery. New name: Donatella Trump
That’ll do it.
by Anonymous | reply 457 | October 28, 2024 8:38 PM |
R457 😆. Love you.
by Anonymous | reply 458 | October 28, 2024 8:38 PM |
Kiss ass
by Anonymous | reply 459 | October 28, 2024 8:44 PM |
My pussy stinks.
by Anonymous | reply 460 | October 28, 2024 8:47 PM |
R442 I meant the investigation — I hit send too soon.
by Anonymous | reply 461 | October 28, 2024 10:00 PM |
The only big thing about Trump to break is his loaded XXXL diaper.
by Anonymous | reply 462 | October 28, 2024 10:49 PM |
I can't believe Twitter didn't deliver the big thing. God, who can you trust these days?
by Anonymous | reply 463 | October 29, 2024 1:01 AM |
As always, OP fails to deliver.
by Anonymous | reply 464 | October 29, 2024 1:16 AM |
Is this something? Although hard to believe he’d pay for anything.
by Anonymous | reply 465 | October 30, 2024 10:42 PM |
He didn't bang a black girl. He won't even rent to 'em.
by Anonymous | reply 466 | October 30, 2024 10:45 PM |
I recently saw Tamron Hall in the Duane Reade at 19th and 7th with her son. Apparently she lives in Chelsea, in the low 20’s.
by Anonymous | reply 467 | October 30, 2024 10:47 PM |
R465, that Trump has paid for multiple abortions has long been baked in. No reasonable person would doubt the veracity of any such claim. And proof of same would definitely not be “campaign ending.”
by Anonymous | reply 468 | October 30, 2024 10:56 PM |
Fuck R465 for digging this trash thread back up,
by Anonymous | reply 469 | October 30, 2024 10:58 PM |
Now LaCivita has something. I hate when people do this. Spill it! Probably nothing good anyway. It's on the level of stuff Trump does everyday I bet.
by Anonymous | reply 470 | October 30, 2024 11:05 PM |
Considering it doesn't take a lot to "break the internet," I wouldn't put a whole lot of faith in it, R420.
by Anonymous | reply 471 | October 30, 2024 11:20 PM |
[quote]Spill it! Probably nothing good anyway.
You'd actually buy LaCivita's shit, r470?
by Anonymous | reply 472 | October 30, 2024 11:21 PM |
Isn’t LaCivita a Dumper? There’s nothing on Kamala, she’s been vetted a zillion times, so why would he spill about Dump?
by Anonymous | reply 473 | October 30, 2024 11:24 PM |
None of this will change anyone’s mind.
by Anonymous | reply 474 | October 30, 2024 11:40 PM |
Serves me right. The LaCivita tweet was about a dumb Trump stunt, taking questions from a garbage truck. Time to log off! Apologies to all!
by Anonymous | reply 475 | October 31, 2024 12:12 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 476 | October 31, 2024 12:36 AM |
R476 - Is his skin actually glowing? Yikes - the Orange Circus ringmasters latest shipment of Orange greasepaint must have gone bad. And his lug nut followers think he looks Presidential?
by Anonymous | reply 477 | October 31, 2024 12:44 AM |
I truly believe that he is testing to paint his face golden because he has some kind of believe that gold brings him good look. He is trying to look like a pharaoh or an Egyptian god who according to mythology had shiny golden skin.
by Anonymous | reply 478 | October 31, 2024 12:48 AM |
He wants to look golden for sure. The hair and skin is very deliberately yellow and orangey gold
by Anonymous | reply 479 | October 31, 2024 1:12 AM |
He's the Sun King, y'all!
I would sign this Dee Plorable, but there's no chance at all that Dee knows who that was.
by Anonymous | reply 480 | October 31, 2024 1:18 AM |
Trump just dangled the job of U.S. Attorney General to Jude Aileen Cannon from Florida if he wins.
by Anonymous | reply 481 | October 31, 2024 2:08 AM |
So this never happened.
by Anonymous | reply 482 | October 31, 2024 2:11 AM |
Or Elon made someone rich to get the story buried
by Anonymous | reply 483 | October 31, 2024 2:13 AM |
There are a few more days left, r482! Seriously, if there is a story there and it’s verified, I expect they’re waiting until after the election to break it.
by Anonymous | reply 484 | October 31, 2024 2:14 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 485 | October 31, 2024 2:23 AM |
Trump’s campaign has completely run out of steam. It’s so embarrassing. They never recalibrated after Joe Biden left the race and mostly just campaigned as if he were still running against him. I mean, they never even trued to run against Harris, stooping so low a few weeks ago to calling her “retarded” and then this past week referring to her as a “cunt.” I mean, that’s not a serious campaign.
And the failure to really inspire anybody also extends to the people around him. Sure, the corporate media is still doing their “oh, we have so much to fear, even if Trump wins he’s going to take elections away from us!” bullshit. And while it’s good to be prepared for any shenanigans, for sure, I expect he’ll be put down hard next week and people aren’t going to want to stick their necks out for him. There would be a much greater threat if he were a formidable figure instead of just a sundowning dotard.
And yes, SCOTUS “decided” in favour of Youngkin in VA today but 1200 votes isn’t going to swing an election and there’s a good chance they disenfranchised their own voters too. The whole thing is so stupid - I can tell you, the reason they decided in favour was because it was originally filed just outside the 90 day window but when it was first ruled on, it was already inside that window. So it was borderline. Those voters can re-register and vote on the day or will probably check their voting registrations today if they’re Democrats and re-register, etc. It’s a stupid technicality. If SCOTUS decides any big cases. they’ll have to write rulings, etc. they’ll have to really take ownership and how wiling will the majority of them be willing to do that if Trump doesn’t have a chance in hell of winning? Bush v Gore was about 536 votes - it would face to be that close for them to get involved. All this other stuff is just scare mongering.
Most people - including a lot of people in the GOP - are ready to move on and dispose of Trump. And the down ballot results are going to be really painful. He has done NOTHING for them. Nothing.
by Anonymous | reply 486 | October 31, 2024 2:31 AM |
*even if Trump loses, he’s going to take democracy away from us!”
by Anonymous | reply 487 | October 31, 2024 2:33 AM |
Been a week and nothing.
by Anonymous | reply 488 | October 31, 2024 2:38 AM |
[quote]Trump’s campaign has completely run out of steam.
Not according to polling.
by Anonymous | reply 489 | October 31, 2024 2:43 AM |
He’s not running out of steam. I think Harris peaked a few weeks ago not Trump.
by Anonymous | reply 490 | October 31, 2024 2:52 AM |
[quote] Not according to polling.
The currently available polling does not include reactions to the Puerto Rico being garbage, watermelon jokes, enemy of the people Nazi Reilly
The orange turd is not doing well
by Anonymous | reply 491 | October 31, 2024 3:33 AM |
[quote] He’s not running out of steam. I think Harris peaked a few weeks ago not Trump.
Trump may be full of gas, but the steam is running out on the old orange puss bag.
Which is good news for you, though you probably don't know that
by Anonymous | reply 492 | October 31, 2024 3:35 AM |
R491 The polling up until now has included all kinds of unhinged behavior by Trump/Vance including they're eating pets, unmarried cat ladies, the wacky debate performance and so on.
What effect did it have?
The fact is Kamala has slid from a 3.7 lead over Trump to a 1.4 lead (538).
by Anonymous | reply 493 | October 31, 2024 3:38 AM |
So they say. Don't beleivbelieve it.
For example yesterday someone said on Tik Tok that early voting was way down in WA and OR. Not ture. Record early voting.
by Anonymous | reply 494 | October 31, 2024 3:49 AM |
[quote]The fact is Kamala has slid from a 3.7 lead over Trump to a 1.4 lead (538).
Dump can't get past 47& he has a hard ceiling.
[quote] What effect did it have?
Yes, yes ever tying it says is unhinged, untrue and untethered to facts There will be an impact on the Latino vote.
Btw, r493, wasn't Kamala's speech great last night?
by Anonymous | reply 495 | October 31, 2024 3:53 AM |
[quote]Dump can't get past 47& he has a hard ceiling.
Looking at the last 14 national polls, Trump had 48, 49, 50, or 51 in 10 of them. You need to refresh your facts.
by Anonymous | reply 496 | October 31, 2024 4:06 AM |
R495
538 "Who Is Favored To Win The 2024 Presidential Election?":
"Trump wins 51 times out of 100 in our simulations of the 2024 presidential election."
"Harris wins 49 times out of 100."
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RCP National Average: Trump 48.4....Harris 48.....Trump +0.4
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RCP betting averages: Trump: 63%......Harris: 35.8%
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Tipp Insight had Harris in the lead until now:
by Anonymous | reply 497 | October 31, 2024 4:08 AM |
^^ R497 - Garbage MAGA website poll. 90% of their stuff is all skewed to the far right, not just that poll.
by Anonymous | reply 498 | October 31, 2024 4:47 AM |
Harris leads by 2 points as polls get closer to election.
by Anonymous | reply 499 | October 31, 2024 4:49 AM |
R494, why would we care about voting patterns in Washington & Oregon?
by Anonymous | reply 500 | October 31, 2024 4:51 AM |
The only October surprise I've seen is Biden trying to sabotage Kamala at every turn. That crotchety old man is out for blood!
by Anonymous | reply 501 | October 31, 2024 4:52 AM |
CNN poll came out today - latest poll, has Kamala up by 5 points. That is the most recent poll we have.
by Anonymous | reply 502 | October 31, 2024 4:53 AM |
I’m more interested in the places that have not been heavily polled:
Shock Poll Says Kamala Harris Within Striking Distance of Trump in Kansas
by Anonymous | reply 503 | October 31, 2024 4:56 AM |
R495, we entered this campaign cycle with some perceived wisdoms that may or may not continue to be true. That Trump voters are routinely undercounted in the polls, that Harris has to win the popular vote by at least 3% to win the Electoral College, & your assertion that Trump has a ceiling of 47%. Each of these absolutes have come into serious question.
by Anonymous | reply 504 | October 31, 2024 4:59 AM |
R502, CNN was not the only poll released today.
by Anonymous | reply 505 | October 31, 2024 5:01 AM |
What others were released?
by Anonymous | reply 506 | October 31, 2024 5:04 AM |
Actually the major poll aggregates still have Trump at 47% average. He still doesn’t seem to be able to crack that in the averages.
by Anonymous | reply 507 | October 31, 2024 5:08 AM |
[quote]Harris has to win the popular vote by at least 3% to win the Electoral College
WRONG! Trump has never won the popular vote and he still won the Electoral college. Hillary won the popular vote in 2016 not Dump.
by Anonymous | reply 508 | October 31, 2024 5:09 AM |
All the latest polls are breaking for Kamala.
by Anonymous | reply 509 | October 31, 2024 5:09 AM |
Today Nate Silver updated his polling average:
"Another high-volume polling day, so we’ve got a second update for you. Kamala Harris got some good results in Michigan and Wisconsin from CNN and Fox. But both firms showed a tied race in Pennsylvania."
"12 p.m., Wednesday, October 30. Some better national polls for Kamala Harris today, but the state polls are the usual mixed bag, with everyone pretty much showing a tie or +1 in either direction and not much variation."
National: Harris is now down to a 1.1% lead
Change from last week: Trump + 0.5
Change from last month: Trump + 2.1
by Anonymous | reply 510 | October 31, 2024 5:11 AM |
Jeezis. ^ And I was starting to get optimistic. Why are the polls so tight? Out here in the real world, it looks like she has momentum.
by Anonymous | reply 511 | October 31, 2024 5:18 AM |
Nate Silver has lost all credibility since he sold out working for Peter Thiel. His polls are irrelevant. I don't know why anyone would even post them anymore. Junk data.
Peter Thiel is the same right wing Billionaire who backed and paid for JD Vance's election as senator for a whole 18 months.
by Anonymous | reply 512 | October 31, 2024 5:19 AM |
[quote]CNN poll came out today - latest poll, has Kamala up by 5 points. That is the most recent poll we have.
CNN only came out with 3 polls today: PA, Michigan and Washington.
Tied in PA. Leading in Michigan and Washington
by Anonymous | reply 513 | October 31, 2024 5:20 AM |
R510 [bold] JUNK POLLS. Owned and paid for by Peter Thiel
by Anonymous | reply 514 | October 31, 2024 5:21 AM |
R508, my point in passing - made at nauseam by political professionals & pundits since the results of the 2016 election - is that any Democrat has to win the popular vote by at least 3% to also win the Electoral College. Hillary did not, & fell short of the presidency. Biden did & was elected president. Now there are some, principally Nate Cohn, who believe this Republican EC advantage - to the extent it still exists at all - is not what it was the last two presidential elections.
by Anonymous | reply 515 | October 31, 2024 5:21 AM |
[quote]Nate Silver has lost all credibility since he sold out working for Peter Thiel. His polls are irrelevant.
Nate Silver is not a pollster. He does not conduct polls.
by Anonymous | reply 516 | October 31, 2024 5:22 AM |
If you pull out the good polls they all show Harris in the lead. Silver likes to include a lot of worthless polls not sure why.
He has since updated 538 and moved Harris back to 1.4 lead up from the 1.1 earlier today. Not sure why the poster put the 1.1 and not the 1.4 lead. She gained .3 points in just one day. That’s with the fake polled included so it’s probably closer to +4 like the CNN poll.
by Anonymous | reply 517 | October 31, 2024 5:22 AM |
[quote]Nate Silver is not a pollster. He does not conduct polls.
Semantics. He's still pushing out JUNK DATA. - Peter Thiel's lap dog now for a pay check.
by Anonymous | reply 518 | October 31, 2024 5:24 AM |
Silver seems to be tied up in the betting schemes so not trusting that site.
by Anonymous | reply 519 | October 31, 2024 5:24 AM |
R517, Nate Silver sold 538 & no longer has any role in it.
by Anonymous | reply 520 | October 31, 2024 5:25 AM |
[quote]Silver likes to include a lot of worthless polls not sure why
That's his job = Peter Thiel
by Anonymous | reply 521 | October 31, 2024 5:26 AM |
[quote]He has since updated 538 and moved Harris back to 1.4 lead up from the 1.1 earlier today.
That's not what he currently has on his "Silver Bulletin". It's 1.1.
by Anonymous | reply 522 | October 31, 2024 5:27 AM |
Why would you take the lower average and then act so deflated? Don’t want bad news? Because it seems like someone in here is cherry picking bad news for Kamala and trying to bring everybody down.
Why favor the 1.1 over the 1.4?
by Anonymous | reply 523 | October 31, 2024 5:28 AM |
R517, what polls does Nate Silver, an acknowledged Harris supporter, include that 538, the Times & WaPo don’t also include in their amalgamation of polls?
by Anonymous | reply 524 | October 31, 2024 5:28 AM |
[quote]He has since updated 538 and moved Harris back to 1.4 lead up from the 1.1 earlier today.
You do not know what you are talking about.
Nate Silver has nothing to do with 538.
by Anonymous | reply 525 | October 31, 2024 5:28 AM |
Trying to bring everybody down this close to an election is so depraved. Quit trying to find the worst info you can find about Kamala and posting it on every thread. It’s so tacky.
by Anonymous | reply 526 | October 31, 2024 5:38 AM |
Since Silver is so great, let’s go with his 1.4 then. Why choose the worst of the two numbers to post here?
It’s so transparent.
by Anonymous | reply 527 | October 31, 2024 5:39 AM |
Isn’t the 1.4 number from 538, not Nate Silver?
by Anonymous | reply 528 | October 31, 2024 5:41 AM |
From Matthew Dowd;
[quote] here is my prediction … by this weekend we are going to be discussing something that we have no idea about today. it will be a…wow, didn’t see that coming. just a sense of mine.
by Anonymous | reply 529 | October 31, 2024 5:50 AM |
No one seems to understand it doesn't matter who wins. The MAGAts are here to stay. We might get a reprieve with Kamala by a whisker... but what then? DeSantis in 2028? Donald, Jr.?
Putin has successfully divided and conquered our nation via the intetnet. They won the cyber war.
by Anonymous | reply 530 | October 31, 2024 5:52 AM |
This is Andrew S. Tanenbaum's website that projects election outcomes.
by Anonymous | reply 531 | October 31, 2024 6:06 AM |
[Quote] Putin has successfully divided and conquered our nation via the intetnet.
It wasn’t Putin. Who was it?
by Anonymous | reply 532 | October 31, 2024 6:17 AM |
it was Putin. You don’t think that Sergey Lavrov really retired do you?
He just moved his whole operation to the US about 8 yeas ago. And here we are.
by Anonymous | reply 533 | October 31, 2024 6:37 AM |
It wasn’t Putin. For every one drop of influence Putin affected on social media (and remember far from everyone is even on social media), Fox has a gallon.
We have three+ decades of rage-farming with tens of millions of Americans by Fox, a constant drumbeat saying liberals are destroying America. It has worked.
Putin’s bots couldn’t hope to approach that amount of influence.
by Anonymous | reply 534 | October 31, 2024 6:44 AM |
Yes, MAGATs are here to stay, R530, but we’ve seen that Trump’s imitators & would-be successors just don’t have his influence.
by Anonymous | reply 535 | October 31, 2024 6:45 AM |
[quote]but we’ve seen that Trump’s imitators & would-be successors just don’t have his influence.
They don't have his charisma or news cycle savvy R535. None of his family do either even though the MAGA cult want them all to be POTUS successively. None of them are up to it. Thank fuck for that.
Someone like nasty, lying Vance will take over the reigns next but whoever it is will never have the charisma of Trump. Once Trump dies (which can't happen soon enough) it will be interesting to see if the GOP fractures and is forced to reinvent itself all over again.
by Anonymous | reply 536 | October 31, 2024 10:02 AM |
PUSSYNECK!!
by Anonymous | reply 539 | October 31, 2024 1:19 PM |
R537, Trump has stock worth nearly 7 billion in that Truth Social company.That is insane. Making money from his cult seems to be what this campaign is all about.
by Anonymous | reply 540 | October 31, 2024 1:44 PM |
[quote]but we’ve seen that Trump’s imitators & would-be successors just don’t have his influence.
They don't need it. If he wins the vote, they'll quickly make the changes that mean you're stuck with whoever they want to give you. Which part of "end of democracy" are you having trouble with?
by Anonymous | reply 541 | October 31, 2024 1:45 PM |
You do realize the US constitution is not easily amended right. And that states have many powers not shared with the federal government. Trump is going to create havoc but it won’t be the end of democracy.
by Anonymous | reply 542 | October 31, 2024 1:51 PM |
[quote] Which part of "end of democracy" are you having trouble with?
Ah, R541, context can be everything. My response about Trump’s imitators & would-be successors not having his influence was in response to the claim that "[n]o one seems to understand it doesn't matter who wins." If Trump doesn't win, the end of democracy is not so nigh.
by Anonymous | reply 543 | October 31, 2024 2:07 PM |
Fair enough, R543.
R542 doesn't seem to understand how autocracy works. I'm guessing 49% of Americans don't, if the polls are right.
The US Constitution may not be easily amended, but it is very easily torn up and thrown out the window by a President who has never read it and has the army on his side. (As you will be too if you wave it around in protest.) With regard to the States, I don't know how they plan to drag New York and California to the party, but a whole lot of others will welcome the proceedings.
by Anonymous | reply 544 | October 31, 2024 2:19 PM |
[quote]Looking at the last 14 national polls, Trump had 48, 49, 50, or 51 in 10 of them. You need to refresh your facts.
Facts refreshed, Polls are not votes. If you look at the actual percentage of votes Dump has received (since Dump took over the Republican Party and morphed it into a fascist personality cult), You will see he has only won ONE, that is ONE election by razor-thin margins (77k votes over 3 states)
He lost the fascists meaningful victories in every cycle since including the famously poorly polled 2022 midterm where the red wave predicted did not manifest. FAILED despite the spirited and energetic wish casting of every Fascist/Republican party surrogates. THUD, bad numbers pushed by bad fucking people with bad fucking intentions.
Beyond that, I can offer you the following: There are polls and statistics that are "Designer Polls" created to offer a bespoke dopamine experience to those who favor democracy (Harris) and those who do not favor democracy and would like to give fascism and autocracy a shot, with the singularly most unqualified, repulsive, disordered, cognitively deficient, nasty piece of work in the history of American politics. Which group do you belong to?
There are also polls, many of them created to move averages and cast doubt on the election results. These polls are EXCLUSIVELY created and funded by Dump and Dump adherents and they are doing this for seriously nefarious reasons.
The Orange Human Pustule does not care about you and would crush your skull just to get a quarter pounder with cheese. If you believe otherwise, I wish you well
by Anonymous | reply 545 | October 31, 2024 2:28 PM |
[quote] There are also polls, many of them created to move averages and cast doubt on the election results.
Among the polls that proved you wrong about Trump’s percentage are CBS News, NYT, Emerson, WSJ, Forbes, CNBC, and USA Today. You’re generating your disinformation based on your emotion and not the facts.
by Anonymous | reply 546 | October 31, 2024 3:13 PM |
[quote]Facts refreshed, Polls are not votes.
I'm hoping that's right. A poll is what you tell the guy on the other end of the phone you think. A vote is something much different. Who comes out. Who doesn't come out. What they do when they get there. Last minute changes of heart. Events that make you rethink. I think there's a good chance the polling could be wrong, at least the public polling. The internals we always hear about are much more finely tuned than the public polls, which are comparatively crude instruments.
Like everybody, I don't know what happens but I think it is likely she squeaks out a win and I don't discount a solid win or maybe an Obama landslide-ish. (Longest of shots, I grant you.)
I keep saying it: you watch Florida on election night. The closer that is, the likelier I think it is there's been something going on the polls couldn't find and the likelier it favours Harris.
by Anonymous | reply 547 | October 31, 2024 3:14 PM |
I enjoy the way you write, r545.
by Anonymous | reply 548 | October 31, 2024 3:18 PM |
Are you better off now or were you better off 4 years ago?
That is the question most voters will be asking themselves.
They'll come to their own conclusion about that.
Fox News has nothing to do with it.
[quote]It wasn’t Putin. Who was it?
If you total the primetime ratings for CNN and MSNBC,, the total beats FoxNews viewership.
Sean Hannity gets around 3 million viewers on his show.
But on network news, David Muir gets around 7.5 million viewers. Now add CBS and NBC to that..
There is no contest. FOX is CREAMED in the ratings compared to them.
The US televised media leans left.
The Putin fetish some of you have is absurd.
by Anonymous | reply 549 | October 31, 2024 3:50 PM |
I think there are just enough voters smart enough to ask themselves: Do I really want more Trump?
I really do. I don't think the better off question is the only consideration for everybody, this time.
by Anonymous | reply 550 | October 31, 2024 3:52 PM |
[quote]Among the polls that proved you wrong about Trump’s percentage are CBS News, NYT, Emerson, WSJ, Forbes, CNBC, and USA Today. You’re generating your disinformation based on your emotion and not the facts.
Talking about VOTES babe, not polls. Btw, the polls you cited aren't very favorable for the man who would be your demise, Donald Dump.
by Anonymous | reply 551 | October 31, 2024 3:57 PM |
[quote]There are also polls, many of them created to move averages and cast doubt on the election results.
Which ones. List them.
by Anonymous | reply 552 | October 31, 2024 3:59 PM |
[quote]He lost the fascists meaningful victories in every cycle since including the famously poorly polled 2022 midterm
You're wrong.
The polls were accurate in 2022.
Quit making stuff up.
by Anonymous | reply 553 | October 31, 2024 4:01 PM |
The list is longer than personality disorders currently active in the addled brain of the sub human cunt you are brainlessly devoted to.
If you google " false polls narrative" or "gop gaming polls to bring up averages"
You will be deluged with information about the subject you are demanding I educate you about.
Tell us why you are so devoted to someone dedicated to your destruction and maybe someone will be kind enough to meet your demands for easily available information.
by Anonymous | reply 554 | October 31, 2024 4:05 PM |
[quote] Talking about VOTES babe, not polls.
The election hasn’t happened yet and no votes have been counted. Whatever tea leaves or intuition you’re using to support your claim of a cap of 47% in 2024 isn’t better than the polling information available.
by Anonymous | reply 555 | October 31, 2024 4:06 PM |
talking about the VOTE averages in past elections not polls
by Anonymous | reply 556 | October 31, 2024 4:08 PM |
You aren't fooling anybody, r553.
by Anonymous | reply 557 | October 31, 2024 4:15 PM |
R554 You are quite the idiot aren't you?
ALL legitimate polls have been showing the SAME results: the election will be a toss-up.
And did you read the last paragraph of the ridiculous article you posted?
"Is all this working? The keepers of the averages say yes. G. Elliott Morris, who runs FiveThirtyEight, recently calculated that if the averages only include high-quality polls—and not GOP-aligned ones—the results are in some states less than one-half a point different. The Times’ Cohn, who recently acknowledged that we’re seeing a “deluge of polls from Republican-leaning firms” in the averages, ran a similar calculation and found the results moving only imperceptibly."
"We see no reason to doubt the accuracy of those calculations. If news consumers are going to trust the curation of high-quality polls that outlets like FiveThirtyEight conduct, then it’s also understandable if they give some weight to these reassurances. And given the larger context here—that is, how inexact a science even high-quality polling tends to be—one can see why aggregators would suggest that tiny shifts in the averages, even ones seeded by GOP polls, don’t warrant too much concern."
Note the words: "don’t warrant too much concern."
by Anonymous | reply 558 | October 31, 2024 4:17 PM |
[quote]You aren't fooling anybody, [R553].
Do your own research Bozo. The polls were accurate in 2022.
ABC News 538 MAR. 10, 2023 : "The Polls Were Historically Accurate In 2022"
" Despite a loud chorus of naysayers claiming that the polls were either underestimating Democratic support or biased yet again against Republicans, the polls were more accurate in 2022 than in any cycle since at least 1998, with almost no bias toward either party."
NYTimes July 12th, 2023: "Polls Were Great in 2022. Can They Repeat Their Success in 2024?"
by Anonymous | reply 559 | October 31, 2024 4:23 PM |
r558/r559, why are you so bothsides? Hmmm?
[quote][quote]Donald Trump groped me in what felt like a ‘twisted game’ with Jeffrey Epstein, former model alleges
[quote]Good luck honey!
[quote]Juanita Broaddrick
[quote]Paula Jones
[quote]Kathleen Willey
[quote]Leslie Millwee
[quote]Cristy Zercher
[quote]Eileen Wellstone
[quote]Sandra Allen James
[quote]Karen Hinton
[quote]Monica Lewinsky
by Anonymous | reply 560 | October 31, 2024 4:26 PM |
The incontrovertible fact, r558 is that Dump has been running for President since 2016 and he has only won 1 election, and he won that narrowly. VERY narrowly. He was a loser in 2000, 2022 and has sunk plenty of boats that attached themselves to his current.
That is the basis of my argument, he's an electoral loser. Your support of that is your business and in my view, your damage. I also think you are smarter and probably have a better brain that your choices are reflecting. If you find that condescending, fuck you, you earned the condescension.
Feel free to plug your head up the ass of someone who, as I said earlier, would crush your skull to get near quarter ponder with cheese. Feel free to continue to argue about polls though your guy, your special man, keeps being a losing proposition for the party and his followers.
Be well and wake the fuck up, you are smarter than this and you know it.
by Anonymous | reply 561 | October 31, 2024 4:27 PM |
See what idiots like R561 do? see how they reason? see how it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a reality based conversation with them?
I'm not voting for Trump. And I believe Kamala will win.
But what does any of that have to do with what I wrote?
The FACT is you are wrong. The polls were accurate in 2022.
The FACT is the GOP backed polls have had virtually no influence on the polling averages.
by Anonymous | reply 562 | October 31, 2024 4:33 PM |
And another thread goes to hell.
by Anonymous | reply 563 | October 31, 2024 4:34 PM |
R560 why are you so bothsides? Hmmm?
Why are you so triggered by facts? Hmmm?
by Anonymous | reply 564 | October 31, 2024 4:35 PM |
[quote] And another thread goes to hell.
People finding other things to talk about I suppose when “something big about to break against Trump” never happened.
by Anonymous | reply 565 | October 31, 2024 4:42 PM |
r564, why is it when I trolldar you, this thread is all that shows up?
by Anonymous | reply 566 | October 31, 2024 4:46 PM |
Thank you for calling out the rain on my parade troll! I knew it was a garbage deplorable fucking with us.
Bravo!
by Anonymous | reply 567 | October 31, 2024 4:48 PM |
For the Gladys Kravits hall monitor at R566: I've been posting on DL for at least 10 years now.
by Anonymous | reply 568 | October 31, 2024 4:50 PM |
[quote] why is it when I trolldar you, this thread is all that shows up?
People mistakenly believe that the Ignored list will show all or even most replies from an account. It doesn’t.
by Anonymous | reply 569 | October 31, 2024 4:58 PM |
My experience is that it generally only shows responses in threads you’ve both posted in.
by Anonymous | reply 570 | October 31, 2024 5:00 PM |
There are a couple of trollls shitting all over these threads. The last few posts, I can’t see r558, r559, r562, r564, r565, r568, and r569. I haven’t checked my ignore list to see if they’re the same poster but block them and the thread looks like a sane, normal thread again.
by Anonymous | reply 571 | October 31, 2024 5:18 PM |
Thank you r571.
by Anonymous | reply 572 | October 31, 2024 5:19 PM |
Time to ignore the Russian trolls and VOTE.
How many here have already early voted for Harris?
by Anonymous | reply 573 | October 31, 2024 5:23 PM |
For the low IQ, a difference of opinion or a statement of facts = shitting all over these threads.
by Anonymous | reply 574 | October 31, 2024 5:23 PM |
If the trolls thought they were winning, they wouldn’t be constantly trying to distort all the good news coming in.
It’s pathetic
by Anonymous | reply 575 | October 31, 2024 5:25 PM |
R575 what is the good news coming in?
by Anonymous | reply 576 | October 31, 2024 5:29 PM |
[quote] what is the good news coming in?
A fellow frau left the remnants of a sheet cake in the break room for anyone who wants some?
by Anonymous | reply 577 | October 31, 2024 5:33 PM |
Ooooooh, that is good news!
by Anonymous | reply 578 | October 31, 2024 5:34 PM |
The fact that polls of people who have already voted in swing states are showing Harris well in the lead even with more registered Republicans voting than Democrats early this time around.
by Anonymous | reply 579 | October 31, 2024 5:34 PM |
^ That sentence would benefit from commas, at a minimum.
by Anonymous | reply 580 | October 31, 2024 5:35 PM |
A link wouldn't hurt either.
by Anonymous | reply 581 | October 31, 2024 5:37 PM |
LOL the deplorable trolls are so BITTER. They are watching 2024 slip away in real time.
Nobody wants these nazis in government.
by Anonymous | reply 582 | October 31, 2024 5:38 PM |
r570 - I frequent all sorts of threads, ElderLez. It's rare that I only share one thread.
by Anonymous | reply 583 | October 31, 2024 5:42 PM |
[quote] A link wouldn't hurt either.
I’m glad to see people wanting documented information instead of rumor, intuition, and speculation.
by Anonymous | reply 584 | October 31, 2024 5:42 PM |
You need to go about four fifths down to the people who have already voted numbers.
by Anonymous | reply 585 | October 31, 2024 5:51 PM |
More registered Republicans voting in swing states.
by Anonymous | reply 586 | October 31, 2024 5:53 PM |
a polling error isn't just getting the number wrong, it is failing to capture issues and elements that are important to voters and that make a voter motivated to cast a ballot. I'd be willing to bet Dobbs is a motivating factor for many new and first time voters this year.
The fact that Dump is focusing so much effort on turning out low propensity voter groups like young men is indicative of their awareness of how poor their chances are motivating higher propensity voting groups.
Stay positive and vote and if you can, help others vote who need assistance.
by Anonymous | reply 587 | October 31, 2024 5:55 PM |
Dobbs is crime, healthcare, the economy, and unwanted newcomers eating up your family’s future all rolled up into one big single issue for women.
by Anonymous | reply 588 | October 31, 2024 6:03 PM |
[quote] a polling error isn't just getting the number wrong, it is failing to capture issues and elements that are important to voters and that make a voter motivated to cast a ballot.
Polling firms have a more direct approach. To find out how motivated a person is to vote, they ask them how motivated they are to vote. It’s a more efficient, and probably more effective, approach.
by Anonymous | reply 589 | October 31, 2024 6:06 PM |
[quote] Polling firms have a more direct approach. To find out how motivated a person is to vote, they ask them how motivated they are to vote. It’s a more efficient, and probably more effective, approach.
what motivates people is often not discoverable with direct interrogatory, but I will give it a shot with you. Why do you continue to fester and fuss over inconsequential details while your fat Nero is fiddling with himself trying to set the world on fire.
by Anonymous | reply 590 | October 31, 2024 6:54 PM |
If anyone were to leak Trump’s medical records, who could it possibly be?
I've noticed slight leg dragging a couple of times, but this clip drives it home. Stroke?
by Anonymous | reply 591 | October 31, 2024 6:56 PM |
Trump's stupid Garbage Truck and Vest stunt was supposed to be about Biden's comments.
Instead Latinos think he doubled down on the Puerto Rico is a pile of garbage comment
by Anonymous | reply 592 | October 31, 2024 6:57 PM |
Well he is wearing Taino face makeup.
by Anonymous | reply 593 | October 31, 2024 7:06 PM |
Biden/Harris let migrants pour in and gave them free room and board, and debit cards.
Trump would never do that.
There's war in the Middle East and between Russia and Ukraine that Biden/Harris are giving billions of dollars to.
There were no wars with Trump.
The Harris/Walz campaign has only focused on Trump and calling him every name in the book, and abortion rights.
Trump has focused on policies.
Kamala always takes a trip to Word Salad City while Trump answers questions.
The Democratic Party is a train wreck on fire going off the rails and over a cliff while the MAGA movement is uniting together with a religious fervor.
And that my friends, is why you're going to have Trump sworn in as the 47th President.
by Anonymous | reply 594 | October 31, 2024 7:20 PM |
Policies like concepts of a plan? Tariffs? Deporting millions of people?
by Anonymous | reply 595 | October 31, 2024 7:21 PM |
R594, the men with the straight jacket are here! Don’t worry, you’re going to a lovely place where you can look out the window all day long…
by Anonymous | reply 598 | October 31, 2024 7:22 PM |
Some little MAGA foot soldier is very triggered!!
Copium!!
by Anonymous | reply 599 | October 31, 2024 7:23 PM |
Are we getting less trolls than 2020? They're certainly struggling this time.
by Anonymous | reply 600 | October 31, 2024 7:27 PM |
Yes, R600. I've been wondering where our confident PA Yard Sign troll has been.
But apparently the answer must wait for another thread.
by Anonymous | reply 601 | October 31, 2024 7:27 PM |
So...yeah, what WAS that something big thing that blew up on twitter?
by Anonymous | reply 602 | October 31, 2024 8:48 PM |