MSNBC Interview - Nonbinary Student (butch lesbian) wonders if Trump would see “them” (her) as “human”

The answer would be “No,” OP. That is the problem here.

Why R1? Because she’s a white lesbian?

Gals like her used to be called "bulldozers" and everybody was fine.

So OP, Trump told a mob to take congresspeople hostage until they declared him winner of the election, even though Biden actually won.

But it’s good to see that you’ve identified the [italic]real[/italic] wrongdoer here — a person who wants to be called by pronouns you find uncomfortable.

Well R4, looks like denial across the board. Trump couldn’t accept the fact that he lost the election, and the lesbian in the video couldn’t accept biological reality.

I miss all the beautiful tomboys and butch women of yesteryear ever so much.

This timeline is actually worse than when homosexuality was deemed taboo.

R6. No, it’s not. The NB and “they” folk may be annoying to us elders, but they don’t hold a candle to the viciousness of Anita Bryant, Toy Cohn, Pat Robertson, William F. Buckley et. al. Who would have had us dead or deprived of any basic rights. You should know better.

Pardon me, [almost] worse. At least we had to actually fight for our rights, r7. These kids make up nonexistent problems to complain about.

Why wouldn’t Trump think they is human. No one challenges that. And the nonbinary thing is just nonsense to the a majority of people. But I guess that’s the hill this she/they will die on because nothing is more important than a pronoun.

So r5, you’ve given us your answer. In your eyes, a bit of cringe lesbian melodrama is every bit as bad as trying to overthrow the government.

[Quote] Why wouldn’t Trump think they is human. No one challenges that.

R9 doesn’t get out much. There are rightwingers across this country who think gay men are devils rather than human beings.

R10 Wow, you really are jumping to conclusions here. I never said that. I said the lesbian is being a drama queen.

R11 This post isn’t about those people. It’s about Trump himself. Now, Trump may very well appoint people who would hurt gays and lesbians and trannies, but he himself doesn’t want to hurt them, nor even really care about them at all.

A lot of people and not just Repugs would have a hard time with that.

It still amazes me that the whole nonbinary thing actually made it far enough to be taken seriously by the media and the federal government. The whole concept is so mind numbingly ludicrous, what with being based entirely on gender stereotypes.

Most of the posts here are coming from one right-wing troll

The fact that this posters sides with Trump tells you everything you need to know

R16 I never said I “sided with Trump.” All I said is the lesbian is acting ridiculous.

[Quote] [R10] Wow, you really are jumping to conclusions here. I never said that. I said the lesbian is being a drama queen.

Wow, no I’m not. You’re making your priorities crystal clear here. Do you think we are idiots? We see exactly what you’re doing.

Social media has ruined society.

I feel like asexuals are a larger silent segment and no one talks about them.

r20 as if being asexual even matters LOL! 😆

[quote] Gals like her used to be called "bulldozers"

Or "bulldagger" if you were black.

Trump thinks all his enemies are vermin and scum. He says so. And he has been cynically using the fear and disgust his supporters feel about trans people to generate votes.

And yet here you are, OP, giving attention.

Fuck off, misogynist OP.

When they're hauling you into the Xtian reeducation camps you'll throw a small hissy fit at the gates, loudly insisting that you're not one of those icky nongendered things, you're a gay man! And the guard will respond with a few truncheon blows to your head. And I'll just

LAUGH and LAUGH and LAUGH.

Isn’t Trump as President going to be horrible enough without your insane concentration camp fantasies. Please name all the things Trump did his first term to persecute gay people? Other than appoint anti abortion right wing Supreme Court judges who could rule against gay marriage. But haven’t yet. That I will grant you.

You just answeered your own question R27 moron.

You're a troll cosplaying as a human.

[quote]It still amazes me that the whole nonbinary thing actually made it far enough to be taken seriously by the media and the federal government.

Sure it's made it to the media and the federal government, but I wouldn't go so far as to say 'be taken seriously' by either. Especially the media - they see these stories as 'clickbait' for their advertising dollars.

There is quite a difference between Auschwitz and a possible ruling about gay marriage which hasn’t happened, You seem as unbalanced as the QAnon loons who think JFK Jr is still alive. Trump is horrible but he won’t be turning you or this they person into soap anytime soon.

No there isn't. You have yet to understand the banality of evil R31, particularly one based on a fraudulent reinterpretatino of a 2,000 year old book.

Hitler wasn't some monster, he was your neighbor and former boss.

[Quote] There is quite a difference between Auschwitz and a possible ruling about gay marriage which hasn’t happened, You seem as unbalanced as the QAnon loons who think JFK Jr is still alive. Trump is horrible but he won’t be turning you or this they person into soap anytime soon.

People said the same thing about Nazi antisemitic policies. “They may discriminate against us in their laws but let’s not get carried away, it won’t result in violence.”

It was true until it wasn’t.

The likeliest outcome of a Trump victory is nuclear war and the end of civilization.

[quote] Look, I’m not trying to downplay Trump’s threat,

Look, the ONLY reason you created this duplicitous thread was to promote the dangerously misguided Idea that the Orange Pussbag does not intend to do what he says he will do

Dump means what he says, and so do you.

Exactly r36 — this is a defacto splitter thread. He does it with the crime threads too.

The purpose is to disenchant us with the Democratic Party in hopes some of us won’t vote.

Sweetie, of course we see you as human. We just don’t take you seriously because you look like the 3 AM shift at the Jacksonville Florida Waffle House. Here’s my advice. Career activist = loser. Go out and have a real career. Even with that hideous face, it’s possible if you have the right skillset.

All of you hysterical, hyperbolic queens are putting images in my head that I can’t get rid of. Now I’m picturing hideous trannies in Party City wigs being marched into the gas chambers, with a pile of costume jewelry and cheap Payless pumps in the building next door.

What difference does it make to you whether she calls herself a lesbian or nonbinary, OP?

[quote]What difference does it make to you whether she calls herself a lesbian or nonbinary, OP?

What difference does it make, R40? If you’ve been paying attention lately, then you know that acceptance of gays has been declining in recent years. If you had any brains in your head, you would know that this nonbinary/gender identity bullshit is why. These clowns are turning us gays and lesbians into a joke, but unfortunately, you’re so deep in that bubble that you don’t even see it.

I’m not in the bubble. I’m critical of the excesses of trans ideology and actually quite skeptical about the idea of nonbinary. But I do believe in an individual’s right to define their own identity. Seems pretty fundamental to me.

Also, not sure where you’re getting this decline in acceptance of gays. I suspect you’re spending too much time on Fox News.

I find it difficult to understand or even tolerate "they."

Regarding Trump...it's a big fat NO!

Lastly, by the time she's 35-40, she will still be a lesbian but she will be a she and no longer a they.

"They" is for confused 20-somethings still trying to figure out things. "They" is not a thing once you have matured.

OP is also:

*Have you ever murdered a transgender hooker?*

[quote]Well, have you?

Kamala is going to win, OP.

[quote]I feel like asexuals are a larger silent segment and no one talks about them.

That’s because in terms of rights and freedoms they are essentially straight people.

R47 Ehh, it’s a discussion no one really wants to have. Yeah it’s one of those things, you stuff it back in the box. It kind of is an issue when Jaydine wants me to have a wife and kids, and I just want to eat frozen pizza and haphazardly places breakables around my pet free apartment.

This person is nothing more than a confused awkward teenager / young adult who has adopted a pop cultural scene (like punk, goth, etc) and mistaken it for an actual personal and political identity.

If this was the 90s, she’d have white makeup and black clothes and listen to Marilyn Manson.

It’s almost like if goth kids in the 90s fought to make self-harm / mutilation socially acceptable. If they went on TV and said carving up your arms and legs to release anxiety and depression is necessary to stop them from suicide.

All of these white American oriented scenes throughout each generation all struggled with being seen as “human” or visible and noticed. It’s nothing new.

I suppose we’ve seen this before in the 1960s with hippies and hippie culture. And the ones alive today I know are radical MAGA Republicans.

It’s just crazy it’s being taken so seriously today.