How to save the Movie Industry.

With Tubi theatres become the Spirit Airlines of the movie industry...

The so-called "Big Five" theater chains of the 1920s and 1930s were all owned by studios: Paramount, Warner, Loews (which owned Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer), Fox, and RKO. All were broken up as a result of the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in the 1948 United States v. Paramount Pictures, Inc. anti-trust case.

Or they could just stop making superfluous sequels, dull CGI versions of animated movies, countless super hero movies with actors in their 60s, and remakes of remakes of remakes.

R2 Oh wow didn’t know that.

R1 oh yeah your comment is PURE COMEDY.

OP Russie since you ran the Xerox machine for CHUCK WOOLERY the *industry* has CHANGED. They have *sound* and *color* You can actually watch MOVING pictures on your *TELEPHONE* .Do try to KEEP UP.

Cut out the woke shit and quit remaking 90s movies with an all black cast and abrasive social justice messaging.

R7 what 90s films have been remade with all black casts? Because I surely missed them.

R8 We can start with Don’t Tell Mom the Babysitter’s Dead. Why was this necessary?

Remember record, then cd stores? They ended.

Movie theatres have now ended also.

Sic transit gloria mundi...

R9 oh wow ONE B list flick that Im not even sure hit theaters. Wow.

Joker flopped because of black remakes. Napoleon flopped because of black remakes. The new George Clooney and Brad Pitt film flopped because of black remakes. The Fall Guy flopped because of black remakes. The Color Purple musical flopped because of black remakes. Oh wait that original was black lol.

Now do you see how absurd your argument is.

That was how studios like MGM’s classic era partly came to an end (besides post-WW2 people’s changing viewing habits with the rise of home television purchases, costs-cutting on filmmaking budgets and contract-artist stables, and decreasing films output), when the government ruling required them to divest from the nationwide theaters they owned which used to exclusively show their films.

R8, I think it was a limited series, but BET had an all-Black version of "The First Wives Club."

[quote]That’s right— to attend your studio’s theater you’d have to already be a member with a subscription OR pay a hefty up-charge to attend a show with a friend.

OP, you just described Warner Bros' decision during the pandemic to do dual home/theatrical releases on the same day. It was a colossal FAILURE. Also, this plan is silly – why would Netflix or anyone else want to buy into a likely doomed business model? – and certain to fail for antitrust reasons.

R15 That’s not what I’m describing here. Warner Bros lost money because more people decided to just stream the shit thus diminishing profits for them. I am presenting a reality where the studios own and operate movie theaters. Your subscription to Hulu or Max would encompass streaming and theater access. If you weren’t a member you would have to pay to see the theater viewing. The bulk of profits would be made from the attractions and food served. Going to the theater would be an experience like a theme park.

R14 you are right. How did that affect movie ticket sales? Perhaps the creator of that miniseries was a millenial female who grew up loving that film and wanted to do a series with those beloved characters reflecting people who like her and the culture she knows. They always say write what you know. Why is that bad?

Wasn’t first Wives Club just Waiting to Exhale?

It's an interesting idea OP but movie theatres are a thing of the past now. They've been dying out for decades, the business model is dead and the writing is on the wall. Like video rental stores and CD stores. All gone.

There is probably some room in the market in large cities for a few upmarket movie theatres for consumers who like that sort of experience. However, everybody else wants to watch entertainment which they can control when and how they consume it and they want to consume their entertainment in their own homes.

My husband and I gave up theaters with that shooting a few years back.

We are so polarized as a nation we can’t even get a group of people to agree on who’s going to be the next president-

Why on earth would I want to sit in a darkened theater with my back to them?

The real problem is Hollywood is putting out shit movies that nobody wants to see. I’m not spending $15 to see a 61-year old naked Demi Moore.

It's a US problem. In Europe, India, China, for example, cinema attendance is growing at a level significant enough to contemplate more cinemas and more film production. In the US it struggles to hold on. Americans seem to have lost there taste for going to the cinema before COVID and it's been a rough time since.

I live in Europe and see busy cinemas in any city. And film festivals, a mix of national and international titles reissued/reshow classics in thematic serial showings or mini-"festivals". Films are often shown outdoors on summer nights at low cost by museums, city halls, non-profit groups. Audiences are a mix of young, middle aged, and old. Maybe my view in biased by living in a city center, but the cineplexes always have a real.mix of titles, many of them not destined to be Top 5 blockbusters of the year -- and everyone knows this. In the US the race to the top of the box office is a race to the bottom of quality or novel ideas. In Europe studio names still tell you something, and there are loads of them.

Even 30 years ago in the US there was a sense of independent film companies and of big producers who would take the occasional chance on quality, maybe for money, maybe to bolster a reputation. That seems to have dried up in the US. There has been little that's fresh or different, let alone a bit risky in a long time. Netflix and the streamers broke the expectation on the US that anything good would show up in a cinema. In Europe, the streamers had an impact, yes, but not of killing cinema.

Make more movies for WHITE PEOPLE!

This is a terrible idea. It also fails to recognize the real issue - movie interest amongst people has wained. They'd rather watch TikTok reels. It's sad. If you think it's ridiculous, you don't know a lot of people under forty.

Once actors got sophisticated about how to campaign and win as Oscar, mainstream movies just got so damn grim. I don’t want to pay to see some gloomy character study, domestic abuse or war-torn country. If I want to be depressed, I can watch the news. Movies, for me, just stopped being entertaining.

These award shows are being propped up now as it is.

R25 I get you what you mean ONLY if you mean there stop being a balance. Because there have been some compelling “tragedy porn” flicks even in recent years that were incredible films. That’s why I miss 80s films. The commercial, obviously mainstream flicks had more varied topics. Now it’s either Marvel or some horror flick, a handful of them will be good in a single year. It’s like everything is reduced lowest common denominator and also how they set up films. You can tell they are reacting to ADHD audience. They don’t build up a storyline anymore.

We had black versions of Four Weddings and Funeral, a black version of The Witches, a black version of The Exorcist, a black version of Single Black (White) Female, and so on. The banks demand DEI which is why films suck now. The Academy even said that films won’t even be considered unless they made up a certain quota of minorities. All of this kills creativity, not that Hollywood was art before it but it certainly doesn’t help.

R21, that’s not what people paid for. You’re an idiot.

Hollywood didn’t even make The Substance. France did.

Maybe your life should revolve less around Hollywood, OP.

R27 but you’re weren’t even alive in the 80s so you would next to nothing about what the reaction to various genres was in the time they released.

They made shitty movies by the dozens in the 80s, just like they do now.

R28 None of those films were theater releases. Troll harder next time.

I hate when people troll. I made a thread about the dying movie industry and people want to talk about Lifetime movies and miniseries producing black cast versions of white B movies. Do not troll my thread or get a better brain.

Your thread sucks because the original post is based on complete ignorance of how the industry worked then and now. No studio is buying a large movie chain.

And don’t use Alamo as an example, or the sparks in. NY.

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R36 Got. Gheesh. Just a hypothetical.

Stick to your named character—when you try to sound real, it doesn’t work for you.