Treason Thread #72: The Truth About Cats & Dogs

Love the title!

And we are open for business here.

At last, a thread to tell it like it is!

I thought that dogs had more chew and cats were a little gamier.

Both have to be cooked to well done, 165°F

OP, a piglet?? Isn't he more like a big fat wild boar???? (I had to spellcheck boar from bore. I realize now both would be correct).

This is the first time I've *ever* watched FOX.

All the news media does is focus on Mango Anus Mouth.

Do keep up, r7, I was watching Kamala's interview.

From the previous thread reply 577.

Shit like this (and years of threats) is why I disowned my brother. These fuckers are utterly insane and obsessed.

Kamala sealed it with the Fox interview. She was fantastic.

Former Pres Bone Spurs is toast.

Yeah, FCI, but we also need the senate. What's going on in Texas? What'd you think of that debate last night? Is it possible for Cruz to lose??? Isn't he crooked in as long as he wants?

Apparently, Trump is STILL paying hush money to Stormy Daniels

When a Democrat interviews on Fox, the network has anchors and commentators immediately afterwards to diss, spin, and lie.

That has been a Fox tactic for many years.

Fox gives politicians such as Trump & Miss Lindsey softball questions and wouldn’t dare interrupt their spill.

R12 Allred has a very good chance of unseating Teddy. He’s within a few points or tied. With the Roe vote unpredictable, I say Allred wins. I have a 50/50 track record on predictions, FWIW. Looking at the fundamentals, Texans really hate Teddy, and are not happy with state Republicans about the grid, hurricane response, and local school district funding due to holding it hostage for vouchers. Add in Roe, I say Allred takes this.

From your lips, FCI

Elon embarrasses himself defending Trump's treason

Trump has cancelled several upcoming events, including the NRA!. Health issues or is he just such an embarrassment every time he talks, his handlers are keeping him out of sight? Maybe both. Drugs aren't working and he can't focus for an entire town hall/rally.

Has this been posted yet?

Notorious cunt Thiel on a PR campaign. We discussed all of these articles here on and off, yet the source of all this info was a liar. Go figure

Judging by the photo of Chuck Johnson in the article @ R19 , I would say Miss Thiel definitely has a type. Right, J.D.?

I guess we’ll hear more tomorrow re: what jJack Smith has on Dumpy.

I cannot wait, r21.

Even if it's redacted, the perps will be outed. Just like they were in the last redacted filing.

What? Friday? Tomorrow Friday?

Yes, r23, I believe so!

Weekend news dump!

[quote]Elon embarrasses himself

In other news, water is wet.

Bless their hearts...

[quote] Judging by the photo of Chuck Johnson in the article @ [R19] , I would say Miss Thiel definitely has a type. Right, J.D.?

The type gets uglier and uglier.

Colbert

Elon Musk is funding fake flyers being sent to PA voters trying to scare people

More shit Elon is funding:

Targeting Muslim voters by saying that Kamala "stands with Israel"....then targeting Jewish voters by saying she "stands with Palestine"

Trump knew he was going to lose PA, despite his claims

Even Fox News is cutting away from his rallies.

"Fox News cut away from Trump's rally as he opened with an unending rambling rant about Arnold Palmer that culminated in Trump complimenting Palmer's dick size."

Something tells me there are going to be many more "dead microphones" accidentally happening to him.

When a clown...

The Dallas Morning News recommends @ColinAllredTX to be the next Texas Senator.

Well...?

Whistleblower Claims Trump Used Firm To Spy On Democratic Lawmakers

Hungover Miss Lindzebelle cursing again. She’s mad at Republicans not supporting Trump.

What *exactly* is radical about Kamala, Linds?

Clearly the most radical nominee ever is Trump, who would like to replace everything about the constitution with his own personal rule, entirely for his own personal benefit.

That is actual radicalism.

Sexual infatuation & lust for Mango Mussolini, as well as long rumored to being blackmailed and the obsession to appear most days before TV cameras, has Lá Sènatrice in a regular drunken stupor.

The media sure does crave featuring her.

Good luck to winner!

Yeah, well, good luck getting the DOJ to prosecute a wealthy white boy, r40.

"The franchise owner of this McDonald’s, Derek Giacomantonio, has been fighting against raising the minimum wage. It has been the site of protests in the past for working conditions."

Because...of course, r43.

PA governor Josh Shapiro says law enforcement should take a look at Elon

Blame Samuel Alito and company for the Citizens United ruling that has allowed characters such as Peter Thiel to emerge and go unchecked in their financing of political shenanigans.

"The court held 5–4 that the freedom of speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent expenditures for political campaigns by corporations, nonprofit organizations, labor unions, and other associations." (2010)

Despite his slow start, Colin Alred has the endorsement of the five biggest newspapers in Texas

(R48)

[quote] Ultimately, some of these elderly, vulnerable consumers have unwittingly given away six-figure sums – most often to Republican candidates – making them among the country’s largest grassroots political donors.

TX is feeling very in play especially for Allred. I gotta a feeling..

I’m going to see Kamala in Houston on Friday.

Damn it would be so amazing if Texas flipped. They really, really need Texas, and if the Republicans can't count on it, now or in future years, they simply can't count on anything.

[quote]r52 = I’m going to see Kamala in Houston on Friday.

Give her my best, FCI, and tell her I need my punch bowl back. Thanks.

R54 Will do, Doris.

And the winner is...

So we sort of knew it before but now it’s official: literally EVERYTHING the orange, demented fatso touches turns to literal shit.

McDonald’s has an E. coli infestation in 10 states. People have been hospitalized.

I wonder if it’s part of the deregulation he was responsible for in regard to meat inspection procedures.

To fully understand Trump's criminal decisions, and what a second Trump Administration would look like, let's look at his picks for Chiefs of Staff:

Reinhold Richard "Reince" Priebus After graduating from Tremper, he attended the University of Wisconsin–Whitewater, where he majored in English and political science. He graduated cum laude in 1994 and prior to that had been elected to serve as student body president. After graduation from Whitewater, Priebus served as a clerk for the Wisconsin State Assembly Education Committee. He then enrolled at the University of Miami School of Law in Coral Gables, Florida. While there, he worked as a clerk for the Wisconsin Court of Appeals, the Wisconsin Supreme Court, and the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida, and interned at the NAACP Legal Defense Fund in California. In 1998, he graduated with a Juris Doctor degree cum laude from the University of Miami, after serving as president of the law school student body. He moved back to Wisconsin and became a member of the state bar.

John F Kelly Enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps. He served in an infantry company with the 2nd Marine Division at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, and was discharged to the inactive reserve as a sergeant in 1972 so that he could attend college. He returned to active duty with the Marines in 1975, completed Officer Candidates School, and was commissioned as a second lieutenant on December 27, 1975. In 1976, he graduated from the University of Massachusetts Boston and in 1984, he received a Master of Arts degree in National Security Affairs from the Georgetown School of Foreign Service. In 1995, Kelly graduated from the National Defense University in Washington, DC with a Master of Science in Strategic Studies. Kelly returned to the East Coast in 1994, to attend the National War College in Washington, D.C. He graduated in 1995 and was selected to serve as the Commandant's Liaison Officer to the U.S. House of Representatives, Capitol Hill, where he was promoted to colonel

John “Mick” Mulvaney He attended Charlotte Catholic High School and then Georgetown University, where he majored in international economics, commerce and finance. At Georgetown, he was an Honors Scholar of the School of Foreign Service, and ultimately graduated with honors in 1989. Mulvaney attended law school at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He earned a full scholarship to attend law school, where his focus was on antitrust law. He earned a Juris Doctor in 1992

Mark Meadows Meadows attended Florida State University for one year in 1977–78. He later graduated from the University of South Florida with a two-year Associate of Arts degree. He never disclosed what the AA degree was in. Trump finally got a Junior College stooge to do his bidding. He is the only one that has been criminally indicted.

BTW, Meadows defended Trump against Kelly's accusations yesterday. He's still covering for Trump:

r63, Meadows is a dumbass Trump stooge who got pulled into the Trump web, and only if Trump is elected, does he not have to testify against Trump and HIMSELF. It is a clue that he did not negotiate for complete immunity. But, to be sure, he is covering his own ass at the same time.

Meadows is hoping that Dump pardons him if he’s elected.

And so the process begins...

[quote]Attorney General Ken Paxton accused the federal government of failing to provide citizenship data for registered voters

Criminal Paxton knows that the determination of voter eligibility is done by the states.

And it is done at voter registration., not on election day.

Yes, R68, Criminal Paxton is well aware of those things. Criminal Paxton assumes everyone else is unaware and so Criminal Paxton will be using this bogus lawfare to attempt to delegitimize the election results..

agreed, r69.

R67 I’m telling you Republicans are flipping out here in TX. They must have some really concerning internal polls. Remember, I told you all I was told in ‘22 that Rs had bad internal polls and there would be no red wave. I haven’t heard anything about the internal polls here in TX, but I don’t need to be told. From the actions of state Republicans, they are very worried.

I hate predictions, but I think Allred takes Teddy’s seat. Kamala may barely miss flipping the state. There are a lot of silent women voters and silent R voters for Kamala. I know it because I see it personally. I also know plenty who hate Teddy, and are over DT, so they may skip out on voting for those races.

The strong rumor on Twitter is there is a video of DT groping a teenage daughter of one of his wealthy donors and it is about to drop.

FCI, as much as I’d like for something like that to have an effect, we ALL it won’t.

He could be on video raping and strangling an underage girl and NOTHING WILL COME OF IT.

The cult will cheer, the DOJ will shrug and the rest of us will be utterly repulsed.

Which donor?

That’s the rumor I’ve seen, but I have a hard time believing even Dump would be so dumb. However, if he’s truly got dementia, it’s possible I guess, people with dementia lose their inhibitions. I mean, if the video shows him doing that and an altercation follows where Dump is obviously demented, that would have an effect. Of course it wouldn’t with hardcore MAGATs but maybe the undecided and some Republicans who are holding their nose to vote for Dump.

In the end, I don’t see anything that would cause his campaign to implode. But there might be something that could sway those who are not really committed to him.

You would think that his comment about wanting generals like Hitler's would turn people off.

In this video, former Republican Strategist now Democratic Supporter Cheri Jacobus gives her ideas on what Biden and Harris should do immediately after Election Day no matter the result.

Most of what she says is what we here have been discussing. Worth a watch!

R74 No names have been mentioned. I’m skeptical.

R73 I completely agree.

R76 Not only that, Gen Kelly finally acknowledged DT called service members suckers and losers multiple times.

R77 Cheri responds to me a lot on Twitter. She’s smart.

Hmmmm

Damn are all of these rumors stemming from just one source? Halperin?

It's stemming from whoever was trying to convince Halperin (and other journalists) to bite on the story.

DT’s campaign is on full panic mode so maybe it’s true, but it won’t make a difference.

There’s no red line with the Right.

Exactly FCI. There is no low they won’t go.

So it's the Epstein story?

R79. It will be disclosed JD has been hiding that he’s FtM transgender?

Or

The pee pee girls tape gets released?

Or

Laura L’ner is pregnant & orange con man is the dad?

Is it this?

No r86. Whatever it is, it ain't some old story about Trump being a very typical asshole pig. His base loves it, and the media doesn't give a shit.

Actually I should say I hope it's not that, because that would land with a thud.

Stroke or Loomer baby Daddy or both

^ I don’t know but I think either might move the needle.

[quote] The strong rumor on Twitter is there is a video of DT groping a teenage daughter of one of his wealthy donors and it is about to drop.

Oh, please, r91.

Like maggots care some kids got grabbed by her pussy.

She was asking for it and should be flattered that stinking shitstain even paid her any attention.

I hope it’s a video of him literally fingering her.

I liked one post that imagined it being Trump being in on the planning of his "assassination attempt" and now being guilty of murder.

...yeah, I knew it was racist but I didn't mean for it to be considered that way...

@RobertKennedyJr 's running mate @NicoleShanahan tried to bribe a @WashingtonPost reporter with $500,000 to NOT write a story about her

What is that information about Shanahan? At work, so no time to do extensive internet searches.

[quote]No. It's Project 2025. "It's the simple fact that they wrote down their own policies."

Project 2025 is already having an impact on the military, even before a potential second Trump term:

The Naval Academy disinvited historian Ruth Ben-Ghiat from appearing before midshipmen under pressure from Project 2025 authors The Heritage Foundation.

"Deep within Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation’s 925-page roadmap for the next Republican president, its authors say they want the service academies scrubbed of anything and anyone deemed insufficiently pure of thought — exactly what they did to Ben-Ghiat."

[quote]...insufficiently pure of thought

If that phrase doesn't put a chill up your spine, nothing will. And who better to represent purity of thought than the person who has made it his life's work daily to commit the seven deadly sins - and has got away with it.

Fuck Chris Cuomo with a saguaro cactus. Thanks!

Related to R97

I didn't realize that r102. I don't know if we realize what an incestuous little world this new aristocracy is. Thanks for posting that.

Chris Cupmo is seen more as a has been. Using curse words to make a bigoted, tarnished point to garner attention falls way short.

The steroids can't help his attitude.

It always comes back to...Mitch.

Oh Geez...NY Post Endorses Drumph

The suspense was KILLING ME, r107!

Coco Chow ain’t putting out for Broken Old Crow.

[quote]“I can’t take four more years of this crap.”

You’re lying Lindzebelle. Four more years of partaking of Trump’s “crap” 👅 is your addiction.

That is absolutely ridiculous r111. Fuck these whores and their fucking bullshit nonsense.

A North Carolina Republican says we should just hand all of North Carolina's electoral votes to Trump BEFORE the election

A bunch of companies have done the same, r113.

Instead of banding together and stopping this bullshit, they’re submitting before anything happens, just so that traitor and his cult don’t boycott or attack them.

This is an utter failure of the DOJ to arrest and detain DOMESTIC TERRORISTS at every level of society. Including CONGRESS!

Merrick Garland’s Justice Departments’s apparatus failed. Garland, more than any other one individual, is responsible for enabling Trump and his anti-democracy intentions and initiatives.

I'm still going to hate on Mitch more, r116.

The Washington Post reports on...The Washington Post

[quote] An endorsement of Harris had been drafted " by Post editorial page staffers but had yet to be published, according to two sources briefed on the sequence of events who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. The decision not to publish was made by The Post's owner - Amazon founder Jeff Bezos - according to the same sources.

[quote]The decision not to publish was made by The Post's owner - Amazon founder Jeff Bezos - according to the same sources.

Proof that even with billions in the bank, you can still be a fucking coward.

Cowardice or just not wanting to pay taxes?

Probably not wanting to to be de-oligarched out a window.

I love this comment I just saw on a Youtube vid:

[quote]Fox News saved my life. After years in a coma, my nurse put Fox News on my bedside TV. This motivated me to get up and change the channel. Thanks, Fox.

From "Democracy Dies in Darkness" to "Democracy Died. We Helped Kill It"

Ya think?

Good for them! Glad to see that some in the Arab and progressive communities realize that Gaza will wiped off the planet with Putin’s cum dump.

Broken brain

We're all just pawns on the billionaires chessboard

Undecided

R121 They sure are showing their true asses.

Did someone say "asses"?

R130, talk about a monster rally. Disgusting.

Sweet baby Jesus, the agony.

It will be so exciting! @ r130 list.

I want to be serenaded by Lee Greenwood while I flirt with Elon Musk.

Re R114.

[quote] Then, on Monday, Hawley came under fire over a Missouri Independent story detailing his use of a private jet to campaign around Missouri, even though he attacked his 2018 opponent, Democrat Claire McCaskill, for doing the same. According to the report, he spent over $132,000 on chartered flights between mid-December and June.

[quote] “Missouri’s flyover country for this guy,” Kunce said on Saturday at a rally in Jefferson City, pointing that he instead was campaigning in a minivan with his wife and 16-month-old son.

Fire Sale

Open a new window...

Elon Musk Jokes About Harris Being Assassinated While Speaking At Church

Many on Twitter are saying the story the media won’t touch is about proof the assassination attempt in Butler was staged.

I believe it was staged and the truth will come out sooner rather than later.

I've been saying it was staged the moment I heard about it.

Link to a tweet with over 3 million views.

Oprah's diversity hire, Dr. Phil

When you go to low for even Skeletor

^^^Too

If there is proof that “assassination attempt” was staged, that treasonous piece of shit needs to held liable for murder, since that firefighter guy was killed.

Plus the shooter was killed.

There is NO LOW these arrogant pricks won’t sink to. None.

Et tu, NYT?

I’m not having an affair with Trump says Lomer.

Sues Bill Maher for saying otherwise.

Marsha Blackburn breaks “china” dinnerware to show her hostility to the country of China. Which one? She’s having campaign commercials doing such.

Will she not cook Thanksgiving Turkey if she becomes mad at the nation of Turkey?

[quote]r140 = Many on Twitter are saying the story the media won’t touch is about proof the assassination attempt in Butler was staged.

Hey, FCI, remember my post at r94? It does have the aroma of Occam's razor.

R151 Sure does, Doris!

My feelings exactly:

Apparently, most of DL is less interested in politics and the upcoming election than they are about threads such as the “TEXAS HAIR GUY”. and “FRIDGESCAPING!”

The popular election related thread is “LADY GAGA WILL NOT ENDORSE KAMALA”.

🙀🐶

ie: MAGA burning early votes

Trump mentioned in his MSG speech that he and Speaker Johnson had a surprise in store for election day. Could this be what he's talking about? Does the below sound credible? Is there a way around it?

"First, Republicans need to make sure they’re in control of the House of Representatives on January 6th, 2025, when the new president will be certified. To do that, even though Democrats might have won enough seats to take back the House in the 2024 election, Speaker Johnson will refuse to swear into Congress on January 3rd a handful of those Democrats, claiming there are “irregularities” in their elections that must be first investigated. Consider that Johnson is still refusing to swear in Tom Suozzi (who recently won George Santos’ old seat), something Johnson apparently did to maintain enough Republican-majority votes to impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. (Johnson says they’ll swear him in this coming Thursday, but nobody’s holding their breath.) Like Mitch McConnell withholding Merrick Garland’s nomination to the Supreme Court for over a year, withholding certification of a handful of Democrats would be easy, legal, and completely immoral. There’s nothing Democrats can legally do to stop Speaker Johnson from pulling this off: he can postpone swearing a member in for as long as he wants. That keeps Speaker “MAGA Moscow Mike” Johnson in charge of the House, so they can also refuse to accept the Electoral College certificates of election from a handful of states where they claim there are “problems.”

That is chilling, R158. How can we do anything about this?

Re: r158

Re: R158

[quote] Johnson: "Speaking of secrets, Harris knew Biden was physically and mentally impaired and kept it a secret. The FBI knew the Hunter Biden laptop was real and kept it secret. They also knew Russia collusion was fake and kept that a secret too. It appears that all those secrets didn't matter to the media because they all helped Democrats. But this one might help Donald Trump, and now they care? By definition, a secret is not to be shared - and I don't intend to share this one."

11 Days ago

Anyone that interferes with the election, whether it's menacing poll workers or bombing drop boxes, needs to be charged with terrorism -- "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

"A key ally to former President Donald Trump detailed plans to deploy the military in response to domestic unrest, defund the Environmental Protection Agency and put career civil servants “in trauma” in a series of previously unreported speeches that provide a sweeping vision for a second Trump term."

They're setting drop boxes on fire in Portland, too

Elon is the most dangerous person in the world because he has all the $, he has Putin’s ear, he has classified US intel, he is a part of our govt, and he want to end democracy. I fucking hate that Nazi POS with every cell in my body. I’m anti-death penalty, but I’ll make an exception for him. A DL fave grease fire?

I created a separate thread for this, but in the interest of documenting all the malfeasance here, this is one of the most egregious examples. Basically it undermines one of primary mechanisms to protect against the theft of taxpayer money. It’s been in place since the civil war and has bipartisan support, but this magat judge with the support of her mentor Clarence Thomas had decided it is unconstitutional.

MTG doubles down

What the hell?!?

[quote]"If something goes wrong and Marjorie Taylor Greene with that beautiful blonde hair is driving down the highway in a hydrogen car ... you're not recognizable ... she's no longer recognizable. We found some of her."

Cue dramatic soap opera organ music

One of Randy's very best...

Elon says Trump will bring about a "necessary" economic collapse.

...let's move on...

If anyone needs to experience “hardship”, it is THAT goddamned arrogant prick!

And it should be a PERMANENT HARDSHIP. Plus deportation.

Regarding Kamala, I'll say it again...

There's *there* there.

[quote]One of Randy's very best...

One of the Marsh Family's best...

Donald Trump 'jumped' on a blonde 6' 1' pageant queen, 'grabbing her body everywhere' after inviting her up to a suite at his New York hotel for 'a private talk', the woman has claimed.

And it was only because of her height and strength that Beatrice Keul could fight off the former president.

A longtime friend, Swiss writer Pascal Claivaz, says that Keul first told him her story of Trump's unwanted sexual advances 20 years ago, and that her telling of the incident has not changed in the intervening years.

Mail ballots being mysteriously "lost" in Erie County, PA (most people who vote by mail in PA are Dems)

VA is purging "illegals" from the voter rolls. Too bad some of them are actually American born!

I feel that not only will Trump lose, it will be a castastrophic loss.

Trump demonizes immigrants as uniquely criminal, but it turns out he was soft on immigrant crime.

Workers who were part of Trump and Musk's get-out-the-vote effort were tricked and threatened

[quote] These ads feature an image of Donald Trump with the caption "Trump's Proiect 2025 Will Ban Porn. Enjoy while you can," and conclude with a call to action encouraging viewers to "Google Trump porn ban." The effectiveness of this approach is evidenced by a significant surge in related search queries nationally since the campaign's launch in mid- October,

I've had the misfortune of meeting Howard Lutnik as well as knowing someone who worked in his home who has told me stories about their experience. That he is Chair of tRump's transition team is reason enough to vote for ANY other candidate.

Love this...

Ouch

So pretty much most of the incumbent repig scum got their asses handed to them whilst debating the Dem candidate. Good to know.

🤗

"Campaign Ad for Nebraska Senator Uses Images From the Northeast (NE)"

One even did it to herself, R191

[quote] Dan Osborn said in a statement to the New York Times that “Maybe if Deb spent less time at fancy D.C. fund-raisers schmoozing her big corporate donors, she’d actually be able to recognize the state she’s running for Senate in. Since Deb so badly wants a New England vacation, Nebraskans will happily fire her on Nov. 5.”

[quote] We need ads showing a husband, not wanting to reveal he watches porn and doesn't want it banned, secretly checking the Kamala box as his MAGA wife remains unaware.

The Alitos, Samuel & Martha-Ann?

Recordings of Jeffrey Epstein on Trump's White House team

Wolff lies almost as much as Trump.

Tuesday

This is one of many moments in his first run that I thought he was finished.

It really opened my eyes as to how, for way too many Americans, his cruelty is the point.

Perfect...

One can catch busybody Miss Lindsey on Sean Hannity in just minutes. Montana doesn’t need her messing in their business.

What is Lady G going to do once Trump is defeated? Throw herself onto the funeral pyre, like any grieving widow?

I don’t watch Fox, but it’s quite obvious Sean Hannity’s obsession, and immense adoration, for hosting Miss Lindz is quite abnormal.

Maybe Miss Lindz has a fetish for short-dicked Irish drunks? We know how fond she was/is of Kavanaugh.

John McCain was not short-dicked!!!

^ Were those actual beauty spas or "Orchids of Asia Day Spa" type places?

R204 You should have seen what he looked like before the $9.000.

MAGA Merrick Garland is trending on X and not for good reasons.

"Atleast the Arizona AG is not asleep at the Wheel like our Do nothing DOJ AG Merrick Garland which has been MIA for almost 4 years regarding any of Trumps Crimes or any GOP Senior Anyone involved in Aiding Trump with Jan 6, Fake Elector Coup..."

"Merrick Garland and Christopher Wray….gosh, I sure hate to bother you, but Donald Trump just called for nine rifles to be pointed at the face of Liz Cheney; he’s calling for her to be executed. Do you think one of you fucking guys can DO SOMETHING?"

"I need some Merrick Garland therapy. If Trump gets elected again, I will blame him personally. His inaction has put our country in a precarious situation that could affect future generations and have a rippling effect that stretches throughout the entire world."

"Merrick Garland is an amazing magician, he made the entire justice department disappear."

"Why does Trump feel safe issuing death threats? Because he knows Merrick Garland is a spineless coward who will do nothing."

"If Trump does win the election, I hope that Merrick Garland gets the credit he deserves when they rewrite history. It's only fair because Trump's rise to power wouldn't have been possible without him."

"FUCK Merrick Garland. I hate that worthless son of a bitch almost as much as I hate Trump."

Mikey let's it slip he'll torpedo the Chips Act. Ohio may get abortion and gay marriage banned again, but they'll lose their yuge contract with Intel that was going to make them the Silicon Valley of the midwest. Oopsie!

Just the beginning of the grave Deplorable losses to come.

R207 might answer the question of....if Trump wins, who will he make his AG? He'll keep Merrick Garland.

One way of knowing Garland has been working for MAGA all along.

Very unladylike, intoxicated Miss Lindz is “cussing” even more.

Is she trying to transition into a macho man? Has she been listening too much to Village People old hits at Trump rallies? Will that deliver her more Tallywackers?

Oh Miss Lindz, Liz’s balls are bigger than your yours and she’s a real lady.

Stupid question… why on earth would Repukes want to repeal and/or “streamline” the Chips Act? It makes no sense.

Of course, there is no greater war hawk on Capitol Hill than our Miss Lindz.

Republicans talk big about fighting the PRC, but their policies actually do them favors. Just look at the mass exodus of brilliant scientists secondary to the persecution of ethnic Chinese Americans carried out under the China initiative. Or racistly going on about the “China flu” while alllowing the PRC to cover up the origins of COVID.

If Trump wins, he has indicated he may put RFK Jr. in charge of Health and Human Services. RFK Jr. wants to ban vaccines. Imagine the return of a polio outbreak throughout the USA? Childhood viruses will skyrocket. Flu epidemics will spread like wildfires. New variants of COVID will manifest.

Will JRK Jr. personally manage the Leprosy colonies?

We all need brain worms after consuming raw roadkill.

Will RFK Jr. ….

[quote]Will RFK Jr. ….

3 hour long line to early vote in Columbus, OH

Here’s an unusual theory. Trump is intentionally trying to sabotage his own campaign. He really doesn’t want to do the tedious work as President. He wants to barely lose, rile up his base again, play victim again to his claim of another “stolen” election. He will use the drama to help defend him against federal and state charges stemming from his actions in 2020 including the stolen secret documents. He wants all prior charges dropped and avoid fines and jail time. His tactic is to muddy it all up with new bogus claims.

So forgive my ignorance but when people talk about internal polling, wtf does that mean? A poll is a poll. Only as good as who is conducting it and whatever they are trying to convey, right?

So if I’m reading that trumps “internals” are horrible, what does it mean? The polls they have are horrible but who is running them? Who are they polling?

Sorry if it’s a dumb question. I don’t believe polls in general, as they tell us not to do since they can and usually are wrong. 🤔

We’ve arrived at the moment of truth.

I can’t go with how I feel. I do feel good, but it’s based on tangibles. There were red flags everywhere in 2016. I felt good based on polls, but on the ground the energy was for him. Now, the red flags are for him. She has the energy. So many Republicans are voting for her. There are a lot of silent Kamala votes. I’ve personally heard of many Rs voting for Kamala, or not voting for Pres at all.

I think, like Biden, she takes some surprising states, and many Red states will be closer than they’ve been in forever.

R220 Campaigns pay big bucks for the most accurate data. When a campaign hires a pollster to do internals, they do deep dives into the electorate. They know the local electorate better, know the local issues which may affect their votes more than national issues. Since campaigns pay huge for this, they expect the information to be extremely accurate and it always is. These pollsters want to continue to get paid so they will strive to be spot on. They also seem to pick up trends before national pollsters.

A lot of national polls are done to push a narrative- look how many right leaning polls just got dumped which are all outliers and are meant to paint a picture of a close race where he is barely winning.

r220 Pollsters still depend much on land lines. Most of that population is in rural areas and are largely senior citizens. I have a land unit that now works off my WiFi system with the computer. The cost was considerably reduced a few years back when I sought to get rid of it. On my mobile phone, I don't get pollsters calling, On the land unit I've received two or three a week for months during election seasons. I stopped answering them long ago. Results from landlines have to be skewed.

I actually wonder about that r223. Do you have any source on that? I'm not saying you have to be wrong, but it seems so unlikely that pollsters are just mindlessly rolling along pretending that most people still have landlines. Do you have any source that says most pollsters still depend on land lines?

What is FCI's final prediction? Insider info?

I wish Poll Troll were still here. Anyone know what happened? He knew his stuff.

Poll Troll is still here. He’s all over the current Shawn Mendes Comes Out thread.

Seems unlikely at this point, but if there is anyone to trust on this that person is Nancy Pelosi

Thanks, r227 I actually did a search (wow the search function worked, hallelujah) and found this thread where he commented.

Trump is a disgusting pig. No one should vote for him.

R225 The internal polls are really bad for DT, and some R candidates like Teddy and Ricky. I think Dems keep the Senate and take the House. The woman vote is going to see Kamala win easily. I think she has a chance to pick up IA, AK, KS, OH, TX, and especially NC.

FCI, I can’t bring myself to hope for a blowout. I just want her to win. I think I may vomit copiously if she doesn’t.

Agree about the woman vote. Abortion is that stubborn little issue that won't go away, despite the media obsession with insisting the biggest issue just HAS to be immigration and inflation. It's that vote that pollsters just can't seem to tap into correctly.

After polls showing her within single digits in KS, AK, and up 3 in IA by a very respected pollster there is something going on and Kamala, and Dems in general, will pleasantly surprise tomorrow.

R224 Lists of landline directories (the old White Pages} are easy to acquire. They can robocall working from the acquired numbers.

Oh, please!

Oh, please!

Oh, PLEASE!

Thank you, FCI.

Makes sense.

I'm not stressing. Kamala has it.

I'm stressing a little, but less lately. I think you're right Doris.

(R237)

I’m stressed. Very stressed.

[quote] This isn’t about Gallant. He wasn’t a “good” minister of an awful war. This is about Netanyahu getting rid of the last person in his cabinet who actually dared to somewhat challenge him, replacing him with a poppet. This is about Israel under Bibi taking another step to autocracy

[quote] The Republican mega-donors Dick and Liz Uihlein, who are the third largest donors in this year’s US presidential election, have sought information about who employees at their company Uline will be voting for in Tuesday’s ballot.

[...]

[quote] While the button employees are meant to click says the survey is anonymous, the webpage also says that employees “may be asked to sign in”.

[quote]r244 = I’m stressed. Very stressed.

For goodness sake, FCI, here...

It gets clearer each day, Netanyahu is evil!

[quote] Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

[quote] “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

Why is FCI stressed? Harris is going to lose?

FCI...what's going on?

No No No

I’m just stressed in general. I don’t trust anything. 2016 gave me PTSD.

Our country is on the line, so I am very stressed. I would be stressed even if Kamala was ahead in every state by 27 points.

I didn’t mean to cause panic.

Doris, send it NOW. 🤣

Go ahead and MARY me but I just joined a free trial of Fubo to watch MSNBC and seeing all these young kids spending hours in line at Temple U to vote has me in tears.

Bless them, they are our future!

Paul Rudd is at Temple handing out water!

Love that, r255! I lived in Philly, now the Philly burbs (Bucks County) pretty much all my life, and it’s been exhilarating in a way watching it become ground zero for presidential elections.

But you know what? I’m glad to pass the mantle to another place. I want Pennsylvania to start being reliably blue again,

Just a thought. Will Senator Vance apologize to President Harris for calling her trash?

Where is everybody? I’m not finding any threads for tonight.

I was way off.

This country is about to go through an epic FIND OUT phase. Fuck all the old gay fucks on this for forum who supported him. The FIND OUT phase will be especially tough for you.

There’s just no way he won like this. Yes, I’m going to say it. Massive cheating. He kept saying he already had the votes to win months ago.

The fix is in now. They will gerrymander the hell outta every state. They will dismantle our current way of life, our govt, our standing in the world. Republicans will seize control over everything and not let go. Russia, China, Saudis, Iran just got control of the world. They will grow more powerful.

Kamala was an excellent candidate. Women fucked themselves. Hispanics fucked themselves. Working class fucked themselves. Men fucked themselves.

We won’t fix this with a blue tsunami in ‘26. No, that won’t allow that. We lost our country. Forever. I hope the dumbfucks who voted for him are fucking happy.ENJOY!

Yeah, I wish I could disagree FCI, but I'm feeling that despair also. this is a shitty country, at least for now, and I don't know that there is an answer except to try to wait it out for a couple of years and hope the fuckers stop being fuckers.

Yep.

Now, every time some dumb cunt whines about the stock market or the price of groceries, I’m going to say, “you voted for this.”

[quote]r259 = There’s just no way he won like this. Yes, I’m going to say it. Massive cheating. He kept saying he already had the votes to win months ago

Viva la resistance, FCI!

Merrick Garland must be absolutely giddy with last night's wins.

[quote]Kamala was an excellent candidate. Women fucked themselves. Hispanics fucked themselves. Working class fucked themselves. Men fucked themselves.

THIS. A thousand times over. God help us all.

May the face eating leopards eat all of their faces. Slowly and painfully.

May the hurt and suffering they wish on others be returned to them tenfold.

May they all come to know the full horror of their vote.

Won't Usha make a lovely First Lady?

Merrick Garland got Trump elected. It doesn’t need explaining.

A. Mayorkas helped enable Trump as well.

Biden kept them around. That’s on him.

Lady Lindsey threatens Jack Smith.

I blame Garland and his spineless refusal to prosecute that fucking traitor.

HE needs to be prosecuted for dereliction of duty.

Speaking of Jack Smith:

[quote]As Nikita Khrushchev said in 1956: “We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within”.

R259, FCI (sorry I don't know the proper form of quoting posts).

"There’s just no way he won like this. Yes, I’m going to say it. Massive cheating. He kept saying he already had the votes to win months ago."

ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY! Yes! Massive cheating!! I've been reading shit commentary for hours looking for someone to write this very statement that's been screaming in my head!. Thank you!!

Trump and cohorts have been projecting for weeks about massive cheating, using those very words!

Maybe I have more blind faith in our American populace than others. Maybe I am just fucking insane! But these tally numbers just DO NOT ADD UP! Not plausibly, anyway.

"Kamala was an excellent candidate."

In my opinion, THE most excellent candidate! Claiming she lost because she's a woman? Black? Indian? Married to a Jew?? No, sorry, I don't buy it. Not in this day and age. Not against THAT candidate!

When Hillary ran in 2016, yes there was lots of excitement, but also some dread and trepidation.

This was NOT the case with Kamala! Am I the only one to recognize this? There was a HUGE surge of excitement. A surge that matched our SHEER HATRED for Trump. Maybe even more cult-like excitement than Obama in 2008. We wanted her as much as we rejected him.

Am I fucking crazy????

""It's the economy stupid!"" I'm sorry, even we, in this period of time, are NOT THAT STUPID!"

There is something else that caused those results. Something very nefarious. Maybe they covered their tracks too well this time, maybe not.

I implore and hope with the entirety of my being that there is someone out there who will investigate. Before any prints can disappear.

I’m usually the optimist. You all know this.

Not this time.

We are cooked as a country.

Republicans, with him having absolute power, will take over states, making it impossible for Democrats to be elected. We are going to turn into Russia 2.0. AMERICA! We’ve fallen. And we fell to an adjudicated rapist felon insurrectionist. Stunning!

I’m not going to lie. Project 2025 will be implemented. There’s not a goddamn thing Democrats can do. It will, for a century, cement conservative patriarchal Christian Nationalism.

Anyone who still doubts this hasn’t processed what has happened. We lost. We lost BIG. We lost it all. You know I am NEVER like this.

There will be no midterms to save us. What Democrats are left, will be bought off by the oligarchs. Just like in Russia. Oh we’ll have our Navalnys, with the same result.

This post will lose me a lot of fans and friends. Just bookmark it and see where we stand in just 3 short months.

This will affect our entertainment. HW is going to go through some things. What we watch will change drastically. Our way of life is done.

This is all courtesy of the media. You can blame a part of the blame on Garland, or Biden. Some argue going after Bone Spurs is what motivated his base. Who knows.

There’s a lot of blame to go around, but the media is numero uno.

White people- what the FUCK have we done? For WHAT?

If you doubt anything I’ve said, read Project 2025 again. It is our future. Hate me all you want for this, but I’m not even scratching the surface of this catastrophe.

I’m sorry we’re here. If it’s any consolation the racist old gays here will suffer mightily.

That would certainly explain his demented behavior the past two weeks. However, you can bet that Garland or whoever at the DoJ will pretend they know nothing and keep their head in the sand.

Also "Women fucked themselves. Hispanics fucked themselves. Working class fucked themselves. Men fucked themselves.

We won’t fix this with a blue tsunami in ‘26. No, that won’t allow that. We lost our country. Forever. I hope the dumbfucks who voted for him are fucking happy.ENJOY!"

FCI and others, look at it this way. If, like you and I believe, that there WAS massive cheating, than most of them DID NOT fuck themselves. Many voted accordingly. It's just maybe those votes were somehow destroyed.

And if there's any consolation, what about our corrupt Supreme Court? A recent decision made about Presidential immunity??

Trump doesn't take the reigns until January 20, 2025. That's 2 1/2 months.

As we have learned, A LOT can happen in that time.

R274 is in response to r272.

My apologies, I forgot to add that.

R273 FCI

Yes, criminality has completely taken over our system. And everything you wrote in that post, well, yah...it definitely looks like our near future!

But right now we are stunned! More betrayed than we have ever felt! But we know we were not wrong! And there are a helluva lot more of us than them!

Biden does not have to be a Lame Duck president in his remaining months. (one case he could follow Trump's example).

I reiterate, Biden has legal immunity, thanks to Trump and Trump's Supreme Court.

Fuck. Remember when RBG died before Trump finished his term and how quickly rotten Turtle-head went to work and gave us Amy?? Something could happen for us too.

But Biden has to be fearless and aggressive. He's got nothing to lose. Nothing but his legacy, which might easily be erased with the advancement of AI. (all types of historical documents are being erased on the internet now).

Maybe he can somehow take advantage of the Supreme Court decision and do - I don't know what - but SOMETHING!

Maybe Biden can die peacefully in his sleep tonight, making Kamala President tomorrow and SHE can do SOMETHING! (Stranger things have happened, and recently!).

I'm just puttin' this out there. (please note, about Biden's possible death I wrote "peacefully").

^^ I am R272 by the way.

R277 What he can do would be temporary unless he assassinates DT, Vance, Johnson tomorrow?

That immunity only applies to REPUBLICANS. The SC would IMMEDIATELY nullify whatever a Democrat would do. Sadly, short of an actual civil war which no one wants, the racists and misogynists won. They really won in 2016. We fucked around too long as a country. We basked in decadence and wealth. We entertained absurdity. We bothsides shit to death. We allowed the rich to become so obscenely wealthy they gained power over us to the point we the people cannot get it back. Less than 5% have over 95% of the wealth. AND WE LET IT HAPPEN! What did we think could go wrong? We aren’t a serious country. We bought our own hype. We allowed our media to become for profit. Shit, it doesn’t take Einstein to have seen way back in the W era we were headed to this conclusion. We allowed the party of recessions to convince us they were the party of economic prosperity.

I’ll likely not post here much longer. The trolls and racists are one thing, but there is no fight left. We lost. I don’t see how we overcome this. I’m so pissed off right now. Maybe I’ll come down and see a path forward.

Biden could just step down. The house won’t approve whatever vp candidate Harris tries to appoint so there’ll be no vp to serve in the constitutionally mandated receiving of the electoral votes in the Senate, which *might* throw it to the House. And since any House member can move to vacate the Chair they can just keep doing that until January 21st. It’s kind of what Trump tried to do, but much more as the Founders intended and peaceful.

R280 That would be wonderful, but what would the result be from a heavily armed maga? Certainly violence. It’d be a coup. That’s not what we’d want as a country. The people have spoken. Give them their shit sandwich. They’ve earned it.

And Elderlez, I say that knowing I’d love if Democrats did that.

But have the people spoken? Or what I mean to say is, yes - they spoke - but IF massive cheating was involved as some of us believe - they're message was NOT reflected in the final voting tally results?

Is there possibly some Steve Kornacki-like savant who can really sift through these numbers and find if anything is amiss??

T H E I R....fucking spell check!

R282 pipe dream. It’s over. We need a miracle or close to it.

Nobody is more gutted saying that than I am.

If the trolls gloat remind them they will live with the consequences, too.

On a final note tonight- don’t let anyone gaslight you as to why this election was lost.

-media

-corp America

-racism

-misogyny

-homophobia

-stupidity

-willful ignorance

-hubris

-cuntiness (contrarianism)

This was not about the economy, immigration (racism), or any other BS. Democrats had no chance. Fuck the media, Fuck the racists. Fuck the misogynists. Fuck the homophobes. Fuck the pearl clutchers. Fuck the contrarians. And FUCK THE UNDECIDED BRAIN DEAD ZOMBIES. We are not a serious country. It will take great pain and suffering to wake us up and I’m not even sure that will work.

A 34 time felon adjudicated rapist dementia addled insurrectionist won against a wonderful candidate who gave us one of the best campaigns I’ve ever seen, and it wasn’t close. Accept this and fight it. How? I don’t fucking know. I’m done voting. I’ll be 40 next election. I’ll have fought through 14 years of this maga BS by then with little success.

Corporate America sabotaged Pres Biden. This was clear as fucking day. They price gouged to make global inflation worse. Pres Biden pulled off an economic miracle with NO recession and tamed Donnie’s inflation. For that, he received no credit.

We didn’t deserve Pres Biden. He had set up an economy that was to deliver one of the deepest, most sound economic output in 60 years. That’s in the trash can now. I hope all those who voted for him lose their benefits, health care, jobs, and other amenities are happy. They fucked us out of probably our best shot at having the best economy since the New Deal hey days.

I’ll never forgive them. I’ll likely risk flying to Haiti to put a mother of a curse on them.

I’m sorry, friends. We tried for years. Our Treason threads may become a wonderful documentary chronicling this insane era. I’m sorry many of you will suffer greatly. We all likely will. Thank you for everything. I love you all. I’m not out, yet. But..

Thanks, FCI.

Joe did what we hired him to do and he got NO CREDIT. At least I sent him a few postcards over the years and told him I appreciated him, for all the good it did.

This country is irreparably broken. Thirty percent is holding the other 70% hostage. WTF is it going to take, for the love of God?

I guess some people won’t learn until they’re homeless and even then they’ll deny. Whatever. Go be stupid, maggots. Burn the place to the ground. It’s your house, too, so don’t think you’ll come out unscathed.

I do find it odd that early voting was setting records, in some districts TWICE as many people were voting early than in 2020. This would seem to indicate a huge turnout overall. But Harris got 15 million fewer votes than Boden, Trump about the same as in 2020. So were election day voting numbers way down?

Does anybody know about exit Polls? How closely did they match the machines?

[quote]As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a down right fool and complete narcissistic moron.

R281 I am not saying anyone should do that. It was more just pondering over how the bizarrre non-governing governing style of the magapublicans could be used against them.

FCI you better not leave us!

The Democratic politician that showed he actually gets it: Pete Buttigieg. He would go on Fox and into other enemy territory and make a pro-Democratic case better than anyone.

DL has had an abundance of anti-Pete posters; not-so-ironically dissing him for being gay and having a family.

I recall a few black TV commentators, professing to being civil rights experts, i.e. Joy and Jason, attacking Pete big time.

I hope Pete makes a run at it in 2028. He’s not intimidated, goes beyond holding his own, and will actually communicate with suburban and rural middle class voters.

.

It's not about economics, or communicating with this or that voter. Democrats did EVERYTHING right this time. Pres Biden fucking delivered for the bottom 90%. 4T dollars shifted to us.

It's about fear, racism, sexism, homophobia. Period. I'm so GD sick of the media pushing the narrative that Democrats are elitists and don't understand the working class. 100 years of economic data says they're the only party who does bring the bacon for them. They're just angry, fearful, hateful mother fuckers. I actually think Democrats should say that with gusto. Fuck them. We'll never get them back. Hispanics and Arabs will come screaming back once the economy crashes under yet another Republican.

I don't want Democrats saving them too soon. They'll never learn that way. They, and we, need to suffer.

The first time Talid or Omar open their yaps carrying that Gaza has been razed to the ground, I swear to God, I will call their offices and say, “Good! You voted for this. Suck on it!”

R294 Same

And I won’t lift a finger when Hispanics are deported, legal or not. I am enraged!

Apparently the military voted 2-1 for him. I guess he was correct about them.

My hate for certain groups grows by the hour. Believe me I reserve a special hate for my White brothers and sisters. Their racism, misogyny, and homophobia have been a fucking stain on our country for too long.

What I don’t understand is how the fuck we broke early voting records, yet there was low turnout.

Anyone else read or see this? We were posting about the record early vote, but it ended up with a lower overall turnout than 2020?

That remains weird r296. I know we don't want to do anything like Jan 6th but I am having doubts about the integrity of this election.

Regardless, I don't want any niceties. I really hope Kamala Harris does not go to the inauguration. I get Joe Biden going, I do. We've been talking about peaceful transfer for 4 years, so the current president being there for the hand-off, okay, I get that. But really, no other Democrat needs to show up, including Jill Biden. No pretense that this fucker is anything else but the worthless fucker we all know him to be. No need to pretend to give a shit about whatever he pretends he wants to do for the next four years. Fuck him. He's an asshole, his party is a party of assholes, and let's not pretend otherwise.

How did so many states, all necessary states, elect Democrats in all offices EXCEPT president? NC, a red state, elected Democrats to EVERY state wide office EXCEPT president.

How? Is? That? Plausible?

Explain it to me like I’m a dumbfuck maga.

We broke early voting records because lots of states added or expanded early voting since the pandemic.

For instance New York used to not have early in person voting at all. This year was the first presidential election where there there was early in person voting in the state. And it was for two weeks and multiple locations; so millions of additional early votes. That part isn’t such a mystery.

FCI the trend existed across states. I realized that she had lost when at 10:50 pm they still hadn’t called New Jersey, Virginia and Connecticut. I don’t know why it happened, but it wasn’t fraud.

R300 Did I say it was? My post was not about the closeness of things. How, in mostly swing states needed to win, did almost all the senate candidates, and other statewide Dems, win while Donnie boy also won? NC, again a RED state, saw a SWEEP for Dems in statewide office, yet those same D voters returned Donnie boy? WI, MI, AZ, NV, NC. ALL the swing states needed to win the presidency. It was very close for senate in PA, but Donnie boy won by a larger margin.

It seems very odd and highly implausible. And many non-conspiratorial people are pointing it out. It is just highly unusual.

"How? Is? That? Plausible?"

Just curious what Elon Musk's conversations with Putin entailed.

Also, remember in 2016 how that ABC executive was able to give secret internal campaign polling data to Paul Manafort, who gave it to Kilimnik who probably passed it to Putin, at a time Hillary was leading in a few swing states...then it all suddenly changed early the next morning when she lost Wisconsin, Michigan, et al...

Could it have been done again this year? only kept hidden this time.

Failed coups can serve as practice sessions to improve methods the next time.

I realize more states added early voting, but Georgia, in particular, the early vote turnout was almost at the total turnout for 2020.

Not only that, but Georgia was called before 9pm when it took several days in 2020.

Granted, they may have changed the way they process the votes, but it just doesn’t smell right. Like nobody voted on Election Day. Plus the bomb threats from RUSSIA.

The threads we all met in, Mueller, stated Russia got inside FL voting machines. Look, I will not go around screaming RIGGED or FRAUD like maga even if it is HIGHLY possible if not probably. Why? No proof.

FCI, have you been chatting with Cheri? Watch this:

[quote] Look, I will not go around screaming RIGGED or FRAUD like maga even if it is HIGHLY possible if not probably.

Agree. If there were an actual case, and actual evidence, and an actual trial, I would start to say it. But for now, agree with you FCI.

But that doesn't change my overall feeling that a cold and even sullen non-cooperation is the way to go for now. Norms as we all now know are meant to be broken. If you have to do it, do it. If it's optional, seriously consider the No option. The government I believe will be all theirs for at least two more years. So be it.

This:

wish I could see it r307

R305 Yes!

Yes, r304, I agree. It’s one thing to say something stinks, it’s an entirely different matter to post conspiracy theories and work yourself into a lather.

If the Georgia results are true, I’m really disappointed that the turnout fell off a cliff on Election Day.

There was such a high early voting turnout everywhere, yet it ranked on Election Day? Sad.

R310 Who is posting conspiracy theories? Who is worked up in a lather over conspiracy theories? These threads you are in are based on the Meuller investigation. Read his report on how much Russia swayed the 2016 election AND got into FL voting machines. Don’t come at me. I have no fucks to give. I’m going off facts from the past that very well could have played a role this time. As I said, I have NO PROOF so I won’t be screaming RIGGED or FRAUD.

R310 And I’m sorry if I came at you seemingly hard. It wasn’t directed at you, but at what others on Twitter on saying about anyone mentioning this. I am very on edge.

It’s ok, FCI, I should’ve been more clear in my post.

I meant that *I* think something stinks, but I’m not going to work myself into a lather, etc.

I was agreeing with you that we need facts. We want facts.

If the Russians (or anyone) did not somehow brilliantly rig this election giving us Trump once again - the alternative is that we, the majority of Americans, are a soulless, hapless, horrible race of people!

I don't want to believe that!

So I pray evidence of a rigged 2024 election exists and someone will find it. So help me.

Well, that or we are in one of our stupid fucking moods r314. Honestly, I suspect a year from now we will all see a different America, very much more pissed off at the douchebag we elected.

R313 Thank you for the understanding! 💙

R314 Find it fast.

A year from now we will see a different America? With Putin and Elon as co-presidents, we might not be able to see much at all. What will happen on social media? We'll have no idea what is reality and what is created.

And what about Ukraine? Will that still exist? Will China own Taiwan?

It's not just about us, The (formerly United) States of America.

I do fear for Ukraine. They will be in for the hardest time. Taiwan? Well, not sure. Will China actually do something that bold right now? Not sure.

No it's not just us, but when it comes to who we are pissed at a year from now, it's just us. And I suspect a majority of Americans will be pissed at Trump and his stupidity a year from now.

Regardless, for now there is no actually stopping him or his cult. They will have the power. For now.

All of the evidence from Mueller, the J6 committee and Garland still refused to prosecute that mother fucker.

Fuck that lazy, spineless cunt. He’s done NOTHING to prevent this.

Yeah, Garland sucked. Doesn't much matter now, but yeah, Garland sucked, and fucked it up.

Trump's lawyer (and possible AG in his cabinet) is openly threatening Tish James

For R319, R320 and probably everybody else.

We have just witnessed the greatest failure of federal law enforcement in American history.

The reasons for Donald Trump’s reelection are numerous and will be hotly debated in the weeks ahead. But the story of his comeback cannot be told without seriously grappling with how he managed to outrun four criminal cases, including — most notably — the Justice Department’s prosecution over Trump’s alleged effort to overturn the 2020 election.

At the root of it all are the considerable and truly historic legal missteps by the Biden administration and Attorney General Merrick Garland, as well as a series of decisions by Republicans throughout the political and legal systems in recent years that effectively bailed Trump out when the risks for him were greatest.

The two federal criminal cases against him are now dead as a practical matter. Already there is reporting suggesting that special counsel Jack Smith will leave his post and dismiss the pending cases, which is not that surprising considering that Trump pledged to fire him once back in office anyway. The Georgia case, an overhyped and misguided vehicle for post-2020 legal accountability, is going to remain on ice and perhaps get thrown out entirely in the coming years, at least as to Trump (if not his co-defendants). In Manhattan, where Trump was supposed to be sentenced in a matter of weeks after his conviction in the Stormy Daniels hush money case earlier this year, Trump is likely to ask the court to cancel the sentencing date; regardless of the mechanics, there is no reasonable scenario in which Trump serves some period of incarceration while also serving in the White House.

The two federal criminal cases against him are now dead as a practical matter. Already there is reporting suggesting that special counsel Jack Smith will leave his post and dismiss the pending cases, which is not that surprising considering that Trump pledged to fire him once back in office anyway. The Georgia case, an overhyped and misguided vehicle for post-2020 legal accountability, is going to remain on ice and perhaps get thrown out entirely in the coming years, at least as to Trump (if not his co-defendants). In Manhattan, where Trump was supposed to be sentenced in a matter of weeks after his conviction in the Stormy Daniels hush money case earlier this year, Trump is likely to ask the court to cancel the sentencing date; regardless of the mechanics, there is no reasonable scenario in which Trump serves some period of incarceration while also serving in the White House.

All of this will happen despite the majority of the public’s stated interest in concluding the criminal cases — the federal election subversion case in particular — as well as polling that suggested that Trump’s conviction early this year hurt his standing across the electorate and with independents in particular.

If that seems incongruous, it is not. The most obvious explanation for Trump’s win despite his considerable legal problems is that a critical mass of voters were willing to set aside their concerns about Trump’s alleged misconduct because of their dissatisfaction with the Biden-Harris administration. Fair or not, this was absolutely their right as voters.

But if the system had worked the way it should have, voters would never have faced such a choice. If Trump had actually faced accountability for his alleged crimes, he may not have even appeared on the ballot.

It is now clearer than ever that Garland was a highly questionable choice to serve as attorney general from the start. From the outset of the Biden presidency, it was readily apparent that Garland had little desire to investigate and potentially prosecute Trump.

The most comprehensive accounts on the matter, from investigative reporting at The Washington Post and The New York Times, strongly indicate that the Jan. 6 committee’s investigation and public hearings in 2022 effectively forced Garland to investigate Trump and eventually to appoint Smith in November of that year — nearly two years after Trump incited the riot at the Capitol.

There are many people — including many Democratic legal pundits — who have continued to defend this delay and may continue to do so, so let me be very clear: Those people are wrong.

It was clear after Trump’s loss in 2020 — even before Jan. 6 — that his conduct warranted serious legal scrutiny by the Justice Department, particularly in the area of potential financial crimes. But that probe, which could and should have been pursued by Biden’s U.S. Attorney and aspiring attorney general in Manhattan, somehow never materialized.

It was also clear — on Jan. 6 itself — that Trump may have committed criminal misconduct after his loss in 2020 that required immediate and serious attention from the Justice Department.

As a result, the Biden administration and the Garland Justice Department were running an extremely obvious risk — namely, that Trump would run for reelection and win, and that any meaningful criminal accountability for his misconduct after 2020 would literally become impossible. That, of course, has now happened. It was all eminently predictable.

Garland’s defenders over the years — including many Democratic lawyers who regularly appear on cable news — claimed that Garland and the department were simply following a standard, “bottom-up” investigative effort. Prosecutors would start with the rioters, on this theory, and then eventually get to Trump.

This never made any sense.

The formation of the Jan. 6 committee in early 2021 did nothing to change the calculus. There too, it was clear from the start that there would still need to be a criminal investigation to deliver any meaningful legal accountability for Trump.

In fact, the warning signs for where this could all end up — where the country finds itself now — were clear by late 2021, less than a year into Biden’s term. The public reporting at the time indicated (correctly, we now know) that there was no real Justice Department investigation into Trump and his inner circle at that point, even though the outlines of a criminal case against Trump — including some of the charges themselves that were eventually brought nearly two years later — were already apparent.

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It did not reflect some unwritten playbook for criminal investigations. In fact, in criminal cases involving large and potentially overlapping groups of participants — as well as serious time sensitivity — good prosecutors try to get to the top as quickly as possible.

The Justice Department can — and should — have quickly pursued the rioters and Trump in parallel. The fact that many legal pundits actually defended this gross dereliction of duty — and actually argued that this was the appropriate course — continues to amaze me.

As for Garland, his legacy is now out of his control, and the early returns are not looking good.

Garland is a serious, well-intentioned and complex figure. But given all this, he may go down as one of the worst and most broadly unpopular attorney generals in American history — hated by the anti-Trump part of the country for failing to bring Trump to justice, and hated by the pro-Trump part of the country for pursuing Trump at all. I sincerely hope he provides a first-hand accounting of what happened after he too leaves office next year.

The Justice Department can — and should — have quickly pursued the rioters and Trump in parallel. The fact that many legal pundits actually defended this gross dereliction of duty — and actually argued that this was the appropriate course — continues to amaze me.

As for Garland, his legacy is now out of his control, and the early returns are not looking good.

Garland is a serious, well-intentioned and complex figure. But given all this, he may go down as one of the worst and most broadly unpopular attorney generals in American history — hated by the anti-Trump part of the country for failing to bring Trump to justice, and hated by the pro-Trump part of the country for pursuing Trump at all. I sincerely hope he provides a first-hand accounting of what happened after he too leaves office next year.

None of this, however, excuses the Republican political and legal class for their role in all this as well. In fact, Trump could not have pulled it off without a great deal of help from them too.

Start with Mitch McConnell and Senate Republicans in 2021. They could — and should — have voted to convict Trump after his second impeachment, which would have prevented him from running again for the presidency. Instead, McConnell and almost every other GOP senator let him off the hook.

Trump then proceeded to execute perhaps the most remarkable political rehabilitation in American history, but which should not have been nearly such a surprise. He never seemed to lose his grip on the party and in fact strengthened it over the course of 2021, as the likes of Kevin McCarthy and others quickly rallied around him.

The Republican presidential primaries also proved, in the end, to be a boon for Trump in his legal fight. By the time they concluded, Trump had been indicted by the Justice Department and local prosecutors in Manhattan and Fulton County. Under the traditional rules of politics, this should have provided incredible fodder for his adversaries and essentially killed his campaign.

Instead, his most prominent primary opponents — his opponents — came to his defense. As the prosecution in Manhattan came into focus, for instance, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis belittled the effort as “some manufactured circus by some Soros-DA.” Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy both said that they would pardon Trump if elected.

It was no surprise, then, that Republican primary voters rallied around Trump. Perhaps it was inevitable, but it was certainly made easier by the fact that Trump’s supposed adversaries were all endorsing his legal defense as well as his false claims about the prosecutions themselves.

The Republican presidential primaries also proved, in the end, to be a boon for Trump in his legal fight. By the time they concluded, Trump had been indicted by the Justice Department and local prosecutors in Manhattan and Fulton County. Under the traditional rules of politics, this should have provided incredible fodder for his adversaries and essentially killed his campaign.

Instead, his most prominent primary opponents — his opponents — came to his defense. As the prosecution in Manhattan came into focus, for instance, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis belittled the effort as “some manufactured circus by some Soros-DA.” Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy both said that they would pardon Trump if elected.

It was no surprise, then, that Republican primary voters rallied around Trump. Perhaps it was inevitable, but it was certainly made easier by the fact that Trump’s supposed adversaries were all endorsing his legal defense as well as his false claims about the prosecutions themselves.

Last but most certainly not least: The Republican appointees on the Supreme Court bailed Trump out this year — in the heart of the general election campaign and when it mattered most.

A very large swathe of the public — somewhere around 60 percent according to our polling and others — wanted Trump to stand trial this year in the 2020 election subversion case. Before the Supreme Court weighed in, an even larger portion of Americans — somewhere around 70 percent — rejected the idea that presidents should be immune from prosecution for alleged crimes they committed while in office.

The six Republican appointees — three of whom, of course, were appointed by Trump himself — sided with Trump on both counts.

The Republican presidential primaries also proved, in the end, to be a boon for Trump in his legal fight. By the time they concluded, Trump had been indicted by the Justice Department and local prosecutors in Manhattan and Fulton County. Under the traditional rules of politics, this should have provided incredible fodder for his adversaries and essentially killed his campaign.

Instead, his most prominent primary opponents — his opponents — came to his defense. As the prosecution in Manhattan came into focus, for instance, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis belittled the effort as “some manufactured circus by some Soros-DA.” Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy both said that they would pardon Trump if elected.

It was no surprise, then, that Republican primary voters rallied around Trump. Perhaps it was inevitable, but it was certainly made easier by the fact that Trump’s supposed adversaries were all endorsing his legal defense as well as his false claims about the prosecutions themselves.

Last but most certainly not least: The Republican appointees on the Supreme Court bailed Trump out this year — in the heart of the general election campaign and when it mattered most.

A very large swathe of the public — somewhere around 60 percent according to our polling and others — wanted Trump to stand trial this year in the 2020 election subversion case. Before the Supreme Court weighed in, an even larger portion of Americans — somewhere around 70 percent — rejected the idea that presidents should be immune from prosecution for alleged crimes they committed while in office.

The six Republican appointees — three of whom, of course, were appointed by Trump himself — sided with Trump on both counts.

They first slow-walked Trump’s appeal on immunity grounds this year and then created a new doctrine of criminal immunity for Trump that had no real basis in the law — effectively foreclosing the possibility of a trial before Election Day. It was a gross distortion of the law in apparent service of the Republican appointees’ partisan political objectives.

This was all quite bad all around, but make no mistake: Trump’s reelection caps off the most remarkable reversal of legal fortunes in the history of American law. And besides Trump himself, many political figures in both parties share the blame. END

[quote]Will China actually do something that bold right now? Not sure.

The Telegraph: The Chinese navy appears to be gearing up to invade someone

Twitter talk about election curiosities.

R327 The catastrophic consequences of this election cannot be imagined right now. Russia and China, who were on the ropes, have now suddenly become the world’s superpowers again. They will dominate. I hate to be doom and gloom, but we need to be real about what is ahead.

We still have trolls and shit stirrers on this site posting their BS nonstop. I only hope they suffer more than us.

Let me get this straight regarding election rigging on Trump’s behalf.

Just so I’m clear, even if evidence was revealed that could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the election was rigged for Trump, that reveal would result in some kind bad result for Trump?

That Americans would be aghast and chase Trump and Vance from office?

It wouldn’t fucking matter. The USA itself is rigged. It’s rigged on behalf of Trump and Republicans.

Turn the oven to OFF, the USA is done.

R330 Correct

Yeah, that’s what I keep thinking, Della.

Even if it WAS rigged, and even if the evidence were laid out WITHOUT A DOUBT, who is going to DO anything about it? Garland? Don’t make me laugh.

There is NO ONE to actually DO anything about this, unless Marc Elias and his bunch are on it.

Shit, Garland was probably in on it.

Is it weird that the House is taking fucking forever to decide, or is that just normal?

California takes forever to count votes.

Thanks ElderLez

As does Alaska, Oregon, Washington, Arizona.

Jack Smith throws in the towel:

For anyone here who, unlike *FCI and *Della, are not yet ready to throw in the towel, check out this thread which has some interesting comments, many plausible theories regarding election interference.

**FCI and Della, I can't argue. I feel the same way. It's futile. But what's pissing me off is headlines like "Nancy Pelosi: Biden Fucked Us!" and "What Kamala Did Wrong" and "Election Proves How Racist and Misogynist We Still Are"

I don't believe Biden fucked us! I don't believe Kamala did anything wrong! And I believe we have evolved far more than currently being credited with.

And if Putin was successful in rigging this election, (or Iran or N. Korea), it wasn't just to change the results, but to cause the tremendous amount of infighting we are now experiencing as a divided country,

This WAS the plan!!

So I still think it's vital to launch an investigation and get solid answers, even if it doesn't change the outcome.

And as soon as possible. The hell with us. Millions are gonna die in Ukraine and Gaza and other countries around the world because of the results from this election.

Excuse me while I correct myself: "Results" !!!

[quote] So I still think it's vital to launch an investigation and get solid answers, even if it doesn't change the outcome.

What forum? Who is going to pay for it?

Trump is sworn in on January 20th.

The US House of Representatives is in Repug control. The holidays are coming.

Or, are you suggesting that private money pay for an investigation? Whose money? Sure, they could remain anonymous, I suppose, but what's the point?

The American People Don't Care if Trump, Putin, whoever swiped every counted vote that exceeds what Harris got.

Everybody saw with their own eyes and ears Trump's violent minions attempt a LOOTING of 80,000,000 American votes on Jan 6th, and the same people that saw that, plus score more, voted to put Trump back in.

Let's say Jesus Christ himself appears. He calls a press conference. While walking on the Potomoc River he bears direct, incontrovertible proof of election rigging, then says,

"You know that election you just had? Bearing false witness happened. Theft of votes occurred. As a reminder, those two things violate 2 of the 10 Commandments. Both resulted in a false victory for Trump, Here's the proof",

he'd be dismissed as the further ramblings of another bitter Democrat that got the wool pulled over their eyes and so fucking what?

OK Della - you got me - pass the loaded pistol!

Seriously, I can't disagree with any of your post. But some of us are trying to figure how to survive this mentally and emotionally. I'm sticking to what I wrote. It's what I believe. I have no clue how to make it happen!

But Della, please know, you and FCI are the reasons I frequently visit this thread. I appreciate both of you an excessive amount!!

And if I didn't respect you both, I wouldn't feel comfortable posting shit I know you might disagree with.

Awww, it's all good r341.

In a way, I envy you.

That good pure righteousness you feel, that spark of belief in you that ideals, ideas, truth, and right and wrong matter are valuable. They sustain a heart, mind, wonder and desire to reduce the hurt and problems of the world.

“Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable” - Professor Marvel.

But right now, my heart is broken. Since November 6th, I no longer believe or feel the ideals I used to.

That's why I envy your passion.

Della - Thank you!

THAT was the perfect response! (although I am no Karen Fairgate/McKenzie)

Not that it wasn't necessary for me to read your previous response.

Now I've gotta find where I put those rose-colored glasses!!

Does anyone know what the odds currently are for Dems to take back the House? The other day they said it looked like it would stay in Repug control but then today Dems flipped two more seats in NY. Does it all depend on CA?

Also, as an additional ray of hope (I hope), I think it was Eric Swalwell who said last night on TV that, even if Dems don't take back the House, if we could just get a close result like we did last election with the Repugs having just a narrow majority, that might also help us act as a stopgap on Trump because there would be very little they could pass without the help of Dems. (Anyone please feel free to correct me if that's wrong.) But still, let's hope Dem control is still a possibility!

THIS:

THIS: (link attached)

It is very simple to prove this. Take the two most outlandish precinct results from any county and just hand-count the ballots. They won't match the tabulation outputs. From what I am seeing, you will find 8-11% avg. shifts from Dem to Rep. Be sure to check heavy Red areas, easier to cover up..a run up of the score. That was how it was done in Ohio vs. Kerry - GOP flips in already highly red areas. Now, why the Bomb-Threats? They were NOT to allow for hacker access. The programming was already in place, they were to break Chain of Custody and produce legal grounds to not trust a recount. Every place that GOT a bomb-threat is a place the courts will now have to consider the factual argument of whether the ballots COULD have been tampered with while the evacuations were going on. They weren't. But that is the argument the GOP will make to prevent recounts.

I used to appear on Lou Dobbs TV Show, back when he was at CNN and discuss hacking, including of voting machines. I helped get machines into researchers hands - every single one of them were shocked/horrified how simple hacking the machines was. But somehow, the public has refused to engage.

Now that a full blown #fascist takeover is underway, and they did it by hacking the tabulation machines as described, please engage. I will lend any expertise if asked, but be aware these people are sociopaths who will kill you, they have done so to others, so act accordingly.

Additional possibly better link to thread.

If you can, try to navigate thru this man's threads. There's lots of stuff!

[quote]Does anyone know what the odds currently are for Dems to take back the House?

Votes are still being counted on (I think) 10 races. Odds are *extremely* tight.

DL needs to get real and apologize.

Fit as a fiddle.

Straight, and there is no such thing as gentleman callers.

Sober & Teetotaler.

Cursing? No siree.

Here’s a YouTube video I was sent this morning, in line with r346’s post.

Is anyone going to even investigate in PA, WI or MI? We should. Then we should arrest people.

Thank you R350

Cheri Jacobus has been reporting this somewhat on her twitter threads and YouTube channel.

You might also want to check out election security advocate Jennifer Cohn, also on Twitter X and Threads.

Trump says Mike Pompeo and Nikki Haley will not be a part of his administration

Until they completely bow down to him and offer their asses. (which they know, which they will)

Someone who CAN request an audit NEEDS to. Either the campaign, the various secretaries of state, or a lawyer or someone.

Shit needs to be audited with spot checks of the final tally vs what was initially captured at the polling stations. Should be an easy catch.

Kamala Harris put out a fundraising email today with very tiny print stating that part of her funds would be going to a recount fund.. FWIW.

Merrick Garland came through for Trump & GQP in the ultimate way. It’s on Biden for having appointed the guy.

And what happened to the “intelligence community” allegedly watching to make sure there was no interference.

The interference is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE!

Just like the terrorists you all are so afraid of!

Jesus fucking God on a bicycle! A more feckless, cowardly bunch of MEN will never be found. Not one testicle in the lot.

R342, Della

R343 here, (and three other posts below that)

Today is the first time I've been able to post since Friday. I was blocked for two days. Can you or anyone else explain why that might have happened? (I looked thru the list of rules and don't think I broke any). Thanks.

I've had two time-outs in the last week and a half.

The DL racists/Trump supporters/trolls FF en masse.

From the Exit Polls Thread:

Someone has started a campaign:

If the Democrats don’t initiate a recount for the swing states and bring an investigation into Elon Musk’s involvement in the Trump campaign, they are willfully ceding our nation to fascism in the face of results across 7 states that defy any precedent or reasonable explanation. We all deserve a #SwingStateHandRecount.

I guess anyone here who agrees should pass it on.

Yeah, banned once a couple weeks ago, for the second time ever. Bitches are touchy and lashing out.

Seeing a number of greyed out posts also, that really don't seem to deserve that shit either.

I am as unhappy as anyone else, but the vote was disappointing in non-swing states as well. And the Jill Stein led recount effort fundraising was just straight up theft.

(In 2016)

[quote]Today is the first time I've been able to post since Friday. I was blocked for two days. Can you or anyone else explain why that might have happened? (I looked thru the list of rules and don't think I broke any). Thanks.

This is my first time posting since Saturday morning. I've had this happen to me like 4 or 5 times over the past few weeks.

I'm a paying contributor and cannot figure out what I'm doing wrong. I don't post graphic content or argue with people or anything.

I'm scared if this keeps happening then DL will perm ban me and I won't be able to post again.

What am I doing wrong?

[quote] Like many billionaires, Peter Thiel is already benefiting from Donald Trump's second presidential win. His net worth jumped following the election, reaching a record high of $14 billion on Friday, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index. The election results were also a win for the venture capitalist on a more personal level. The vocal conservative and early Trump supporter was instrumental in the rise of vice president-elect JD Vance — and a big reason the Ohio politician was second on the ticket.

JD is doing his post election victory put out. Peter has that big grin happening.

Billionaires are even more brazen. The American middle class just shrugs their shoulders.

Merrick Garland would harp about diversity, equity, and inclusion. That sure isn’t what he’s been enabling.

I was banned for several days as well. Was able to post for one day, then banned again.

Some MAGAts must be butt hurt about something.

I’ve been a paid member for years, too.

Fuck their fefes

I was banned for 2 days after posting an Elon meme not too long ago. I’ve gone ahead and cancelled.

Cutting the news cord completely has been liberating. Since we’re going to go through pain anyway I can be as ignorant and uninformed as many of our stupid voters.

Stephen King was banned from X/Xitter today for calling Elon Musk the new first lady.

Trump supporter openly fantasizing about carving "TRUMP WON!" on liberal women's faces - turns out she has a very special hobby.

I hope she eats liberal women's feces.

She's too busy eating her Great Dane's feces

Hey guys, sorry to say I will be dropping off for awhile. I decided not to renew my DL subscription, I need to take a step back from all social media. I’m devastated by the results of the election, as are we all, so I definitely will continue being active and giving money to the Dems, but I have no hope that Dump will ever be held responsible for his crimes. On the good news front, I also firmly believe he is senile and won’t be president for long. I also believe we will be back in 2026 and will retake the House and Senate, because Dump’s plan for deporting illegal immigrants is going to wreak havoc.

I’m hoping someone can take over OP duties for these Treason threads. I’ll still be checking in, but I won’t be able to create threads whenever I want, considering the prime time crap that randomly is turned on and off.

Fwiw, OP, you're getting a STANDING O from me.

Thank you and enjoy your time. For You-

"Remember when you were a child staring at poofy white clouds, sunshine and a neon blue sky? Remember at night staring at the Moon and twinkly stars?

Remember while doing that feeling in your little heart and mind, pure, true, awe and wonder?

Well, we were looking right back at you feeling the same thing."

- signed Stars, Moon, Blue Sky, Poofy White Clouds, Sunshine, Rain Drops...

Awww Della….🥹🥹🥹

Right back atcha.

Virtual hugs and thanks to you OP.

Yeah, everyone needs a break sometime. My guess is politics is a bit of an addiction, and most will be back by February as the shit is already starting. But still, if you need a break, you need a break. If anything, you'll probably come back better and stronger.

The witty genius @ R379 yet gives me hope for the best of America. Multiply that by 68 million and resistance can happen.

Thank you, OP. Stepping back is healthy. You’ve provided a valuable service to us. These threads are legend.

As I said, I will no longer watch any news including local. I’ll read what I need to read and that’s all.

Question: how many FFs does it take to get a time out? I’ve posted and within minutes was given a time out. It is when the trolls were swarming. They definitely coordinate.

What could go wrong?

RFK Jr is a lunatic.

R363, Elder Lez....Here is one of a few summaries of the 2016 Jill Stein recount. I will paraphrase:

1) Stein raised enough money to start recounts in 3 swing states: Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.

2) In Pennsylvania and Michigan, recounts were halted before they could be finished, each for different reasons, (both having to do with money).

3) In Wisconsin, the recount was finished. However, the result was sent to the owners of the voting machines, and due to very complicated legal issues, never revealed to the public. It had something to do with the Voting Company's ownership of results and their refusal to release the findings. Lawsuits were filed, but they got lost somewhere along the way.

I don't believe all of this is explained in the article linked. Politico has an article. As does The Guardian. I couldn't find the original article that fully detailed all the findings. If I do, I will post that.

So basically, we never found out!

Della, FCI, others.....what is Timothy Snyder's Rule 1 of On Tyranny? Do not obey in advance.

But that is exactly what all of us are doing! (well, I'm trying not to).

Approximately 92% of us are giving in to (what I believe to be) the false narrative The Magas have laid down to us - they we lost this election! I'm screaming, these numbers do not make fucking sense!! They don't! Just because the tallies say one thing, doesn't mean it's true and accurate! There is so much evidence still to be found but it will quickly disappear.

I have been following this thread and others on a daily basis. Please do the same. Yes - stop watching mainstream news! It's horrifying. But please stay here and keep monitoring and updating these threads. I'm imploring you.

Cheri Jacobus agrees, FCI? Election Advocate Jenny Cohn is just starting to come around. Some of you know these names like I do.

I'm going to continue to post links as I find them, as much as I can, until I'm timed out.....Then I'll start again.

Cheri posted this two days ago. She has posted two videos since, but I believe this one to still be the most informative. My recommendation is to watch them all starting with this one.

But at least watch THIS ONE...

If the Democrats don’t initiate a recount for the swing states and bring an investigation into Elon Musk’s involvement in the Trump campaign, they are willfully ceding our nation to fascism in the face of results across 7 states that defy any precedent or reasonable explanation.

We don't need a hand recount of all swing states, we just need one.

If the results of that effort yield no great disparities, then fine.

If they do, we need a #SwingStateHandRecount.

It's highly irresponsible to simply allow fascism to take over unchallenged.

Also, I'm not gonna post what Chuck Schumer said 8 hours ago. I want to bring as little attention to it as possible.

But for anyone here who saw it, FUCK HIM!!

He's a fucking imbecile!

Schumer is a beaten dog, rolling over and begging not to be kicked again.

He’s fucking spineless and useless. Pathetic, sniveling little bitch.

Crawl away, you whimp!

Comment from YouTube:

"Starlink didn’t need to be connected to the machines. If starlink was used to transmit the results of the machines it could intercept and change the totals. It’s very suspicious (conflict of interest) that Elon's company was involved in anyway with handling the results, also that one or more satellites were destroyed after."

I don't who this guy is, but everything in this video sounds reasonable. If you don't want to suffer through it, at least please read some of the comments.

These claims are not "the ghost of Hugo Chavez" and "1 million illegal immigrants voted in California" - CLAIMS ACTUALLY INVESTIGATED AND PAID FOR...

These claims are plausible, reasonable, and if Republicans refuse after we investigated their bullshit, you know they cheated!!!

Leigh McGowan aka Politics Girl nails it! Best explanation so far of any I've seen.

I recommend you start at the 33.30mark, watch to the end, then start at the beginning.

Warning: It's really cringey at the 17:45 mark. I guess it was necessary for Leigh to do some plugging in order to post the video. Skip through it if you can.

And WHAT will be DONE?

Oh, that’s right, not one goddamned motherfucking thing because the DOJ, FBI, NSA and everyone else are too fucking pussy whipped and scared to DO ANYTHING.

They will wring their hands, poo poo the evidence and pretend nothing happened because it’s in their best interest.

Bunch of useless, spineless dickless cunts. I hope they’re all fired. They don’t do anything anyway, but sit on their asses.

Cheri and I have had a lot of back and forth. She’s been deeply into R politics and now is a Democrat. She’s not a quack. She was always the more reasonable R when on CNN, MSNBC, Maher.

There was absolutely something fishy with the results. Ds won nearly every single down ballot race except president in every swing state. Unheard of. We ALL know those machines are not reliable which is why Rs went after them after ‘20 thinking WE cheated MORE than them. Remember Rove saying if the election is within 2/3% it is easy to cheat? His reaction on election night ‘12? Come on.

But,

Unless there is proof I’ll only say it here and only in this thread.

FCI "Rs went after them after ‘20 thinking WE cheated MORE than them."

I somewhat disagree. They knew we didn't cheat. It's not why they protested, and did so in a very strategic way.

I think the reason the Rs went after the machines was more insidious: Deflection and confusion.

If you mean Arizona, the R's knew the Dominion machines were clean and no inconsistencies would be found. They deliberately didn't cover counties that used the Republican owned ES&S machines, where their own hacking could be discovered. When the audit came up clean, we got to jeer "See, Free and Fair!" (which they would use to haunt us later).

Also, what exactly were their experts in Arizona doing to the codes in the machines? Did we have any "experts" monitoring them? And didn't many of the Dominion machines they "investigated" end up being replaced with ES&S machines? Look at the 2024 Arizona results just released.

I love you FCI, but even you continue to give Rs the benefit of the doubt. I suspect you don't realize it.

FCI, check this out....

"Vegas “magicians” and gas-lighters have something in common. They have ways of making you not see what THEY are doing. So for example, if you are a politician (an autocrat wannabe) being backed by the most powerful billionaires on the planet, tech moguls who run high level military surveillance and CEOs who need to ensure zero regulation and a lack of oversight and culpability for the half baked invasive tech they unleash on the world, whilst also stealing everyone’s data and creative products to feed it, aren’t you going to consistently and relentlessly accuse the other side of “cheating” and stealing the election while also threatening a hellscape of war if they lose another ? So, dems are constantly defending the illusory election integrity side and worrying about the civil war instead of noticing the gorilla walking through the room.

I don’t give them credit. I believe some of them really think we cheat because they do.

We’re cooked as a nation. I don’t see how we get out of this. I don’t. Unless 3 or 4 Republicans defect and caucus with Democrats to stop him. Fuck Murkowski. She’s as partisan as they get. She’ll put on a show, but nothing she does will make a difference.

We need a hero. We need heroes. Unfortunately, we need Republican heroes which in that case I’m correct- we’re cooked.

Today’s news has been far worse than I even imagined with his nominees and knowing he’ll install them in recess appointments.

There is no stopping this. My mother, a tough lady, is bawling her eyes out. She has been extremely politically involved her whole life and she sees the signs. She’s terrified. The first and foremost thing is money. With threats to tank the dollar for cryptocurrency, they will steal our money.

I’m not even lying when I say I may flee to Mexico. I’m a white bread boy, but I have a family member by marriage who resides in MX and it is a very nice, large metro area. Very safe. Very middle class. A lot of Americans.

My primary concern is international. Trump is compromised, desperate, and willing. I don’t want to see us taken over (covertly at first, of course). Gov Abbott is already asking for “more time” to build detention (concentration camps) which, when empty, will be filled with others.

Am I wrong? PLEASE let me be. I hope I am so wrong you all cast me out and wish grease fires on me! I’ve had a foreboding for years and years. I am an empath (I think), and feel I’m in tune with the universe in a way. I know I sound crazy and I always take myself half serious. You all know I’ve been calm and steady, but that foreboding has never left. It ebbs and flows with the times. Yikes, why did it never go away like all the others? Well…….

I want to be so wrong. Maybe the pain won’t be so bad and we’ll learn.

I'll tell you what I think I've learned from this experience:

There is no reason to ever vote in a national election ever again!

If what we've witnessed these past few days is a preview to the way our Democratic leaders will to continue to “lead”,

they never deserved our votes to begin with!

They’re doing nothing!

Just lying back and leaving us to our enemies for slaughter!

All those times we assumed they were behind the scenes strategizing ways to protect us (Trump stealing 2016 election, Steele Dossier, Mueller Report, etc), they were doing NOTHING!

We were fighting two wars at once: a cyber war with Russia, and a domestic war with the Magas.

We lost! Both. Wars!

Democracy? That’s been gone a long time.

The constitution? What a fucking waste of paper! Great to start with, but if you don’t consistently follow the instructions while downloading the necessary updates, it’s useless!

Someone once said, they sold out the United States and stripped it for parts!

Abandoning the remains of our bodies in flea markets and junkyards.

The puppy and goat killer as Homeland Security Secretary is no better than Gaetz and other nominations for cabinet jobs.

The pendulum will start swinging back before these disturbing characters get installed.

Merrick Garland fucked it up. That was the intention all along.

Roll over and show your belly R399.

Learned helplessness is not the answer.

Has Pootin ordered the the orange menace to put his agents and assets in cabinet and other prominent administration posts positions?

Shame on the damn corporate media, wimpy & and unprincipled Republicans, the licking wounds Democrats, the corporate billionaires, and the profoundly dumbass electorate for allowing Pootin to have his way.

[quote]Has Pootin ordered the the orange menace to put his agents and assets in cabinet and other prominent administration posts positions?

No, r403, I did that all by myself! With a little help from Elon or whatever his name is.

Have any of you called Schumer’s office and ripped him a new asshole for rolling over and playing dead? Because he and other Dems will continue to lose and play dead until WE get rid of THEM.

Look, we ALL know thugs have been stealing elections for the last twenty five fucking years. Rove admitted it, but it was never covered by the media, congress just ignored it and NOTHING GETS DONE.

We continue to slide backwards, our rights taken away, our environment stripped and our bank accounts pillaged yet the DEMOCRATS are too fucking scared to blow the lid off of this by demanding audits, holding hearings, sending homeland security after these thugs.

Because democrats are fucking cowards. They always have been and always will be until we get rid of the fucking Schumer dinosaurs who want to “play nice”.

Good news! MAGAts now think the economy is just swell!

R402, Elder Lez,

Part of the reason I posted that is part of me truly believes it. Possibly 100% at the time I posted it.

It seems apparent that everyone else has been showing their belly, including posters on this thread, and it really pissed me off!

A good night's sleep has made me slightly more hopeful again, as well as a couple news items I will attempt to post here.

Thank you!!

Bullet Point Ballots

R405 good points.

Beyond being skilled at procedural moves in the Senate (McConnell lite), Schumer and those similar, need to retire or at least step aside from top leadership. They are so addicted to power, they can’t see or accept what needs to change and how to adapt.

When roger stone is involved you know some serious rat fuckery is going on.

Clip of Roger Stone today, predicting that the Democrats are currently quietly planning to subvert the will of the people and blaming Russian interference.

That fucking rat faced cyclops! Figures HE would come slithering out from under his rock to run his yap.

I wish Roger Stone was raped to death by a pack of MAGA bros and then they posted the video to X.

^He’d love that except for the death part.

I'm guessing that Best Musical nominees will be Death Becomes Her, Operation Mincemeat, Buena Vista Social Club, and Maybe Happy Endings. Am I forgetting anything? I saw Operation Mincemeat in London and loved it. I think it will be the show to beat.

Oops, sorry! Wrong thread!

R412 from what I know about Roger Stone, that is his own fantasy as well.

So I guess everyone has deserted this thread? Della? FCI? ElderLez? anybody out there?

I was up til 5am reading the AMA, what's coming next in this country? thread. It scared the shit out of me. Possibly the most horrifying thread I've ever read in my life.

Either I am a fucking lunatic who desperately needs help - (I probably do anyway) - or what this "insider" discusses is way too plausible to be ignored. And I believe practically every word. In one of many passages, this "insider" claims to have the receipts on Jeffrey Epstein, explains why he was suicided and how it all connects. You know, gives some salacious details to the questions we here have been asking for years. And it all seems completely plausible!

But rather than repost that thread, (you can search it here if you haven't seen it), I'm gonna post the information posted by Stephen Spoonamore, who's account I've been checking twice daily.

Also, (forgot to mention), I keep referring to the "insider" as he, but I believe it to be a she from what Insider discusses about her/ his personal life. Not that it matters.

If anyone here has been looking thru my links, and believes I'm on to something, a little encouragement would be helpful.

If, next time I come back to this thread, it still seems deserted except for a couple trolls telling me to die in a grease fire, I'll post elsewhere. Thanks!!

Personally, r417, i'm just popping in every so often and taking a break from as much of the sturm und drang as I can.

Same here, Doris.

I’m still here, r417, and I read that thread as well.

Scared me so bad that I couldn’t sleep last night, and I’ve been researching off shore trusts.

When that gd traitor was installed the last time, I got my passport and put all of my assets in a trust.

If they decide to start freezing assets, most of us are fucked. I won’t be able to pay my bills without access to the money I’ve saved over the last 40 years.

So I’ve looked into offshore trusts, but they cost to set up AND you have to pay someone who is NOT an American to manage it. Of course, you can write those fees off on your taxes, if you file in the US, but if it’s offshore, would you need to file?

Idk. It’s so confusing and terrifying.

I’m here. The AMA thread is Smerdyakov nonsense IMHO. Look at your own link “the myth of liberal democracy” is a straight up tankie talking point.

Do not comply in advance. Do not shut up. Do not shut down. Do not flee. There’s too many of us to put in camps all at once. Being vocal all at once is our power. Don’t let them pick us off. Don’t let them steal our joy. Be fearless in making fun of them. They are weak even when they have power.

Thanks guys for showing up and identifying yourselves, (you have more courage than I do). I'm relieved you all are still around!

ElderLez, DAMN I HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT!

But I checked on that Jonathan person discussed in the AMA Thread, and, to me at least, it checks out. As do a couple other "musings" she or he posted.

I'm gonna post Cheri Jacobus's latest. She's posted a few things today. I recommend you watch this and seek the rest of them out on your own. They're all on her YouTube page. She posted a TikTok discussing Tulsi which is alarming, (not surprising). I tried to post that, and for some reason DL wouldn't let me.

Pete Hegseth, the Fox News host Trump wants to be defense secretary, was flagged as a possible “Insider Threat” by a fellow service member due to a tattoo he has that’s associated with white supremacist groups.

Trump's team skipping background checks on Beavis Gaetz and Tulsi Haggard, (what Cheri discussed in slightly more detail in her TikTok).

The whole point of the chaos of Trump’s cabinet picks is that we get so caught up in the absurdity of it all that we lose sight of the corruption.

Trump is picking people:

(1) who will protect him from accountability (Matt Gaetz & Todd Blanche at DOJ),

(2) who will protect the interests of his corporate overlords (Elon Musk for “DOGE,” Lee Zeldin at EPA, Doug Burgum at Interior), and

(3) to reward unqualified zealots for supporting him in the campaign (RFK Jr., Pete Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard).

NEW: Los Angeles Times executive editor Terry Tang emails staff after owner Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong's Fox News interview last night in which he confirmed he was looking to "redo the entire paper."

P.S. Like this one, some of my links aren't taking for whatever reason. So please google on your own.

This comment cracked me up in response to Brainworm's appointment to head Health and Services Department:

"Make Measles Great Again!"

btw, if this is too much posting feel free to tell me to stop. If I feel I get enough non-troll requests, I will.

And please don't tell me to seek help, wanna know how many waiting lists I'm on ???

"According to reports MSNBC has lost 50% of its viewership and CNN has lost 26%. While Fox has grown immensely in the last week."

What I find amusing about above: If Kamala had been declared the winner, the ratings would have dropped anyway. Perhaps even more than they already have. Why? Their base of viewers would have been so happy, they'd feel no need to watch the news!

I'm thinking this result actually works out better for them in the long run.

Worth reposting this link if I've posted it already. ....And it's not letting me.

Okay. The gist of what it reports:

Trump and Netanyahu had an ILLEGAL SUMMIT at Mar-a-Lago. Benny promised to withhold ceasefire deal to help Trump win the Election. In return, Trump promised Benny greenlight to decimate Gaza.

PBS reported this. Israeli media reported this. America's MSM? Not so much.

I mean, if true - (duh!) - it' pretty fucking huge, right? Treason in broad daylight.

At lease American Palestinian citizens who voted against Kamala out of protest are getting theirs!! (I don't really feel that way. But I know many do, which I hate!).

Update: Stephen Spoonamore's substack

^^Lots of typos in the letter, the date for example. Spoonamore is exhausted and just posted an apology and plans to redo the letter and resubmit.

November 15, 2024

The Honorable Kamala Harris

The White House Office of the Vice President

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20500

Dear Vice President Harris,

We write to alert you to serious election security breaches that have threatened the security and integrity of the 2024 elections, and to identify ways to ensure that the will of the voters is reflected and that voters should have confidence in the result. The most effective manner of doing so is through targeted recounts requested by the candidate. In the light of the breaches we ask that you formally request hand recounts in at least the states of Michigan, Nevada, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. We have no evidence that the outcomes of the elections in those states were actually compromised as a result of the security breaches, and we are not suggesting that they were. But binding risk-limiting audits (RLAs) or hand recounts should be routine for all elections, especially when the stakes are high and the results are close. We believe that, under the current circumstances when massive software breaches are known and documented, recounts are necessary and appropriate to remove all potential doubt and to set an example for security best practices in all elections. In 2022, records, video camera footage, and deposition testimony produced in a civil case in Georgia1 disclosed that its voting system, used statewide, had been breached over multiple days by operatives hired by attorneys for Donald Trump.2,3 The evidence showed that the operatives made copies of the software that runs all of the equipment in Georgia, and certain other states, and shared it with other Trump allies and operatives.

Subsequent court filings and public records requests revealed that the breaches in Georgia were part of a larger effort to take copies of voting system software from systems in Michigan,5 Pennsylvania,6 Colorado7 and Arizona,8 and to share the software in the operatives’ network. According to testimony9 and declarations10 by some of the technicians who have obtained copies of the software, they have had access for more than three years to the software for the central servers, tabulators, and highly restricted election databases of both Election Systems & Software (ES&S), and Dominion Voting Systems, the two largest voting system vendors, constituting the most severe election security breach publicly known.

Combined, their equipment counts nearly 70% of all votes nationwide. Ninety-six percent of Arizona voters use Dominion and ES&S equipment; 100% of Georgia voters vote on Dominion machines; 98% of Nevada votes on Dominion voting machines and the remainder uses ES&S; 69% of Michigan voters’ ballots are counted on Dominion or ES&S equipment; 89% of Pennsylvania voters ballots are counted on Dominion or ES&S equipment; ES&S counts 92% of North Carolina ballots; and either ES&S or Dominion counts 97% of Wisconsin votes.

Possessing copies of the voting system software enables bad actors to install it on electronic devices and to create their own working replicas of the voting systems, probe them, and develop exploits. Skilled adversaries can decompile the software to get a version of the source code, study it for vulnerabilities, and could even develop malware designed to be installed with minimal physical access to the voting equipment by unskilled accomplices to manipulate the vote counts. Attacks could also be launched by compromising the vendors responsible for programming systems before elections, enabling large scale distribution of malware.

(skipping to end)

Audits will be conducted in some of the most scrutinized states, but in key states they will not be conducted in a timely way that could reveal any concerns with the vote count. In addition, in most states the audits are insufficiently rigorous to ensure any potential errors in tabulation will be caught and corrected, and they cannot be considered a safeguard against the security breaches that have occurred. Specifically, Georgia’s audits are non-binding, and Michigan, Nevada and Wisconsin laws do not provide that the audit be conducted before certification. Therefore, it would be impossible to know for these critical states if the audits uncovered errors or miscalculations before the state deadlines to seek recounts.

Among swing states, only Arizona’s audit laws ensure that, if enough discrepancies are identified, the audit hand count will be expanded to correct a potentially incorrect result. In other words, aside from Arizona, in contested states, there is no legal mechanism for the audit to correct the outcome, no matter how much error the audit uncovers. Given these facts, the only guarantee for rigorous, effective audits of the vote in the swing states will be through candidate-requested statewide hand recounts.

The facts around the voting system breaches are not disputed; it is well documented that there were severe, multiple voting security breaches before the 2024 election. To ensure that voters can have confidence that the breaches in security did not taint the results of the 2024 election, we recommend pursuing hand recounts in, at minimum, Michigan, Nevada, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania as they will provide insufficient safeguards against threats posed by the breaches of the election software and will not provide important information in a timely way.

Thank you for your time and consideration of this important matter.

Sincerely, Duncan Buell Ph.D. Chair Emeritus — NCR Chair in Computer Science and Engineering Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering University of South Carolina* David Jefferson Ph.D. Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory* (retired) Election Integrity Foundation* Susan Greenhalgh Senior Advisor for Election Security Free Speech For People Chris Klaus Founder Internet Security System*

Letter can be found at Stephen Spoonamore's Spoutible. Hopefully my link will take.

Dahlia Lithwick writes "The Senate Will Absolutely Confirm Matt Geatz.

Any of you who know Dahlia know she's a totally reliable source. Sorry if it's paywalled, but that's the gist.

This story is needlessly distracting and completely unimportant. But it's funny. And we need humor. And I believe we all agree that Kimberly is a *cunt.

*I'm also curious to see how many likes I get on this post. I've noticed on other threads that just using the word "cunt", increases the likes exponentially!

The little joys I'm currently seeking out.

Another one just for fun:

Alex Jones refuses to leave building after The Onion buys Info Wars and Shuts It Down.

ew

Scary shit, r440

She's turning into a camel to show her support for Trump's middle east initiatives.

Entertainers Mariah Carey and Jennifer Lopez are also age 55, and know how to dress approximately for social events.

Kimberly Guilfoyle’s “ho” look is comical, rather pathetic, and shows the expiration date has past.

It is not about the “cost” of revealing dresses and accessories. It’s about the “choice” among a host of options.

R417 I’ve been on numerous time outs suddenly. There’s a lot of scumbag racist conservative gays. Many older, of course. Subscribers should get a review of their posts before given a timeout. This is ridiculous.

r44-

I can commiserate with you, FCI.

FCI, it happened to me last weekend.

Agree FCI. At least a message saying hey, this is the post people objected to and here are the number of people that FF'd it.

From another thread. Unfortunately, I agree with practically every word this guy says. I was totally with Biden, he lost me at the handshake.

Like someone said "Biden was just the Place Holder President".

Also, this belongs here. Trump following thru with a list of generals he plans to execute....

Cheri Jacobus interview with Nick Quested, man who made Proud Boys Documentary, "They're rewriting the history books"

Really fucking scary....

^^and again, link isn't posting. Check Cheri's Twitter X. It's not posted to her YouTube yet.

I'm cutting and pasting from John Pavlovitz Threads:

The Democrats have nearly swept the state of North Carolina, and yet the state went to Trump. The people of this state need and deserve an #NCRecount to ensure the tabulated Presidential race results here match the submitted ballots.

The Right, ten days after an election they won: "Look at the Left, crying about a rigged election!" The Right, four years, 60+ lost court cases, state recounts, and an insurrection after an election they lost: "Rigged election!"

Seriously, there is nothing conspiratorial about requesting a single swing state recount to ensure proper vote tabulation—that is simply due diligence. Following a campaign where Donald Trump said well before the election that he already had the votes", and after an Election Day when dozens of Russian-initiated bomb threats interrupted polling sites, it is completely warranted to make sure the votes cast were the votes recorded.

As a North Carolinian, these down-ballot voting numbers are insane. We should recount the entire state as the presidential results seem very dubious.

For the price of eggs, tens of millions of Americans voted for a rapist and felon, who is going to give us fascism, sadistic healthcare, terrible education—and more expensive eggs.

I’m not obeying in advance.

We are supposed to believe we had record voter registrations but lower voter turnout? Where are the recounts, Dems?

^^I just have to add, I love his comment about "more expensive eggs".

Today, Neo-Nazis march in Columbus, Ohio.

Stupid question: these guys were wearing Swastikas but yelling slurs at black people. Doesn't this make them more KKK?

I seriously suspect they don't understand the difference between the two groups, (NOT that it matters!), but it aligns with my theory that these people are the most unintelligent on the face of the earth.

"Too stupid to live!" as a friend of mine often says.

So, here’s a bit of interesting information someone pointed out - since The Onion won InfoWars, they (and the Sandy Hook parents) OWN ALL of the servers for that hell hole.

Including emails, past shows, communications- ANYONE who emailed that fat cunt or anything HE emailed now belongs to The Onion.

Including assholes such as Roger Stone, the domestic terror groups (proud bois, 3percenters, oath creepers, etc), coke Jr, assange, etc etc. You know the cunts.

What to do, what to do? Decent folk now have possession of Pandora’s box of scumbags. If only the FBI would do their jobs.

Plenty of PROOF in Pandora’s box, yeah? Wonder what else is in there? I sure hope they dump this treasure trove of trash somewhere that we can view it and comb over it at our leisure.

R455 that is hopeful, (if just a tad), but I don't think it's a done deal yet - at least not to that extent. Malice Jones has filed a lawsuit to temporarily pause the transition. In any other circumstance, you would expect it to be thrown out. But we no longer live in those circumstances.

And don't think Roger Should-be-Stoned-To-Death isn't busy this very moment, destroying and deleting any and every record within his smelly, grubby hands.

However, I give you another sliver of hope.

This is a very difficult, dry article to get thru, written by legal analyst Marcy Wheeler, (better known as X contributor Empty Wheel), in which she discusses her view on the real villains responsible for the mess we're in. Spoiler Alert: NOT Merrick Garland, (although complicit). She points to two others: Mitch McConnell, but mostly John Roberts. As I understand her reasoning. Garland's participation was that he sat back and did nothing. McConnell and Roberts, on the other hand, made aggressive moves putting us exactly where we are now.

Also as I understand Wheeler, she believes even if Garland had attempted to, say, charge Trump within the legal parameters he was allowed, Roberts would have stopped it.

The hopeful part. Well, here's an excerpt: (which I still don't know how to properly format).

"He describes this as driven by Trump’s threat to fire Jack Smith, not DOJ regulations that prohibit further prosecution. He doesn’t link or consider any of the reports that lay out the obvious: by stepping down rather than waiting to get fired, Smith obliges himself to write a report. He chooses how he will go out."

As I understand from the article: Jack Smith is still attempting to be heroic, to do the right thing. (Smith is really fucking pissed off!). He deliberately quit to avoid being fired. But he's taking his time. His plan is to get as much information out to the public, as best he can, which he can only do if certain cases are officially closed, (and supposedly can be reopened at a future date, like that's ever gonna happen!). He wants to use his control of the information while he still has it.

Had he waited to be fired, he'd be handcuffed and escorted out the door before having the ability to do anything.

R456, Should Be Stoned to Death (love the moniker, btw) can delete anything and everything he wants. Communication is a TWO WAY street.

He can delete it all on HIS devices, but the receivers HD or cloud still HAS that info.

So it doesn’t matter what he does on his end.

Yes, that case by Leon should be tossed. It was all up front as bankruptcy auctions are. Leon is afeared his info, plots and plans are part of that Pandora’s box and he wants it erased, lest he be exposed AND prosecuted.

I hope you're right R458

Get enough cash out before Jan 20th to last a few months if not longer. You'll hear more of these calls in the coming weeks. Get extra food/ water.

Advice from a very respected Democratic Chief Of Staff for well known D congressperson from TX.

I just received Sarah Kendzior's Newsletter. She did a O&A. Lots of great questions, stuff we here have been asking about. She gives honest, practical, pragmatic responses. Some good information Here's an excerpt:

Turkey Burger: Looking back, I do not know precisely what happened between Putin and the oligarchs, other than that the oligarchs either fled, fell in line, or lost their fortunes and freedoms and lives. Do you think that is what is happening between Trump and Elon and Bezos? Is Trump is following Putin's playbook?

SK: In 2012, a friend got me a Putin matryoshka. The outside was Putin, the inside was Medvedev, under Medvedev was another Putin, and on it went. So yes, Trump is following the playbook in the sense of heading a mafia state that never lost its grip, even though another administration existed between his terms.

But Putin is not the best analogue: Netanyahu is. Between two terms of Netanyahu came Bennett — along with corruption trials for Netanyahu. Netanyahu won by gutting the judiciary, rewriting the law so he was no longer breaking it, and returning to power aligned with an even more radical right-wing administration — the Kahanists, who were once banned as terrorists. That is what Trump did and will do. He is emulating both Putin and Netanyahu. But only the Putin path is noted by most pundits, because they would never dare criticize Israel due to fear of lobbying groups.Musk and Bezos are also transnational operators with no loyalty to a particular nation. It’s worth studying instances in which they were vulnerable to blackmail. In 2018, Saudi Arabia hacked Bezos’ phone a few months before Jamal Khashoggi was murdered. Back then, Bezos fought back. Now he surrenders in advance. One can make an argument that Musk and Bezos are corrupt and do not need to be blackmailed. But those are not mutually exclusive: corrupt people are fine with some acts being revealed, but not others, and they have personal vulnerabilities. Everyone you named can be blackmailed, even if they don’t always need to be. That even the billionaires are bowing down raises questions of what is happening behind the scenes.

Tristan Snell: Elon Musk had a secret meeting with Iran in NYC. Violation of the Logan Act.

Dumb question, FCI, those "couple of months", does that include for house and insurance payments? Or for stuff like food and gas?

Because I would have to liquidate some assets to have enough cash on hand to make the house/insurance/electric payments for several months.

Just trying to prepare. Thanks.

Robert Lindsay, Nov 18 2024 Election Results State by State - Comparisons of Exit Polls with Results Shows a Possible Republican Voting Machine Election Fraud:

According to the Occupy Democrats and Legal AF, Harris has filed for recounts, but I’ve yet to hear this anywhere else, so it remains uncertain. In addition, there are unsubstantiated rumors that the FBI is looking into possible election fraud.

In addition, the exit polls apply only to E-Day and in a lot of states many voters participated in early voting. There are indications that the E-Day vote leaned strongly Republican. I am still uncertain who won the electoral college.

I’m not a biased person. I support “radical truth.” If Trump won it fair and square, I’d be the first to tell you. Kamala Harris continues to narrow Trump’s lead. Trump is now leading by 1.7 points. She’s shaved off almost half of his lead in a few days.

There are still votes to be counted, and most will lean heavily Democratic because more Democrats engage in early and absentee voting. Also, Democrats live in urban areas, and it takes much longer to count those than it does the rural Republican areas.

Serious problems with corrupted polls. The Republicans completely corrupted this election before one vote was counted. For one thing, they bombarded us with obviously faked polls towards the end to fraudulently make people think Trump was ahead.

Then they rigged Peter Thiel’s betting market in the same way by flooding it with fake bets for Trump to fraudulently make it seem like he was sweeping the betting markets.

None of that’s illegal but as you can see, Republicans went into this election with an attitude of election fraud. Does that mean they committed election fraud? No, but they had the guilty mindset to do so.

Since the Republicans flooded us with rigged polls near voting day, in looking at my polling averages, I only want to look at clean poll averages that have all of those fake Republican polls removed. If you can find me polls free of Republican monkey business, let me know.

On the other hand, looking at exit polls and post-election voter surveys, there did seem to be big shifts towards Trump for some groups like Hispanics, especially Hispanic men, Black men (to some extent), and young people, especially young men.

However, others questioned that and said that Hispanics only swung a bit more than everybody else towards Trump. 23 states were red-shifted, 21 had no shift, one was blue-shifted, and six were unknown. There are 24 suspicious elections below.

Statistically speaking, depending on the margin of error MOE for the poll, almost all states should have no shift. There may be 3-4 shifts either way. How many states would be expected to be shifted in one way or the other depends fully on the MOE for the poll in question.

Having 24 states red or blue shifted is way off, and having 23 states red-shifted and only one blue-shifted is simply ridiculous, probably statistically impossible, and smells like massive fraud.

(cont)

arly Exit Poll Data It now appears that the “national exit poll” referred to in an article was the final national exit poll of early voting. This early voting poll showed Harris up by +4 in early voting.

In addition, on November 2, CNN posted early voting exit polls for Georgia and North Carolina representing 60% of registered voters in those states.

Those polls showed Harris by six points in North Carolina and by five points in Georgia in early voting. This shows that most voters in those states voted early. Those heavy leads would be almost impossible to overcome even with heavy Republican turnout on E-Day.

The combination of early voting exit polls and E-Day exit polls show Harris up by 2.1 points. That is a discrepancy of 3.8 points from the final results. A discrepancy of results and exit polls of 3% is considered the internationally accepted benchmark to nullify an election.

Based on the discrepancy between exit polls and results, some sort of a hand counted recount of suspicious results should take place.

If the Democrats don’t initiate a recount for the swing states and bring an investigation into Elon Musk’s involvement in the Trump campaign, they are willfully ceding our nation to fascism in the face of results across 7 states that defy any precedent or reasonable explanation.

We all deserve a #SwingStateHandRecount.

FCI, what is going on???

R463 I’d say food/gas/necessities.

R467 I think things are going to get pretty bad. I’ve been saying for years and years, even before I came to DL, that billionaires were going to be our undoing and that is finally happening. You can buy ppl very easily with hundreds of billions of dollars.

I posted this in another thread.

A friend has an ex police officer boyfriend. One of the good guys, she says. She asked him what he’s heard about using the police to help with whatever Trump wants to do. He said, though he hasn’t heard anything, the police are chomping at the bit to go after and have complete free rein to harass any and every person they deem unworthy. He said Hispanics/Blacks/Gays for Trump are truly the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet and Hispanics, legal or not, will be harassed relentlessly.

Looks like the Georgia case against Trump is going to wither and die.

*reign

My Apple products have shitty autocorrect.

Actually, you were right the first time FCI. Free rein, as in giving a horse free rein. Not reign.

R472 ahahaha well my English teacher will be disappointed!

I know some here aren't fans, but for me, Leigh McGowan nails every word. Worth the few minutes.

Also, I have a friend who lives near Columbus, Ohio. I sent her the video footage of the Nazi Parade, wondering if it was close by and if she was anxious.

She told me they do it every year. Like it's no big deal anymore. Figuring it's just newsy this year cuz of Trumpkin.

She's a liberal surrounded mostly by Trumpers.

I hate I lost my main contact who let me know about the first impeachment (I shared the night before it hit) and COVID (I shared the early warnings). I still have people in the know, though not as up the food chain as her.

Get as much cash as you can, though not a crazy amount. If you are a married LGBT, contact a lawyer, and get a gun. If you are a POC, same.

I’m not saying this to scare. I’ve been on here since ‘18. A part of this is to take precautions. You never know. My contacts don’t know everything or it would be front page news. Use your own good judgement. I do believe we are in for some very dark days. There will be a lot of information from more knowledgeable people about off shore accounts, buying different currencies. Listen to those you trust. Don’t panic, but use extreme caution.

I’m not spreading fear when I say we are entering a very dark time for America, but heroes come along just when we need them. Have hope. Shit, Germany went full Nazi, killed millions, and came out pretty well in a short amount of time. Protect those who are vulnerable. I wish we had DMs here! Be the Miep Gies. I don’t think things will get as bad as many think, but prepare for the worst. See your doc before Jan 20th for meds. Just prepare. If nothing come of it, what harm was done? Just do NOT do anything drastic. Again, heroes come when we least expect them.

Thank you, FCI.

And next time, we'll just have to VOTE HARDER!!

Yeah, we could have pressed charges but wouldn't it be so much better to just vote him out? Cuz When We Fight, We.....trip and hit our heads on the fucking toilet seat!

If so pissed these Dem pussies have disappeared! They didn't deserve our fucking votes!

FCI has my anxiety levels off the charts. I have about 10K in the bank and live paycheck to paycheck.

I have thought of purchasing a firearm, though.

R479 As is mine. As is a hundred million. You are not alone in this. Always remember that. I don’t want anyone to be caught off guard. When I said I don’t think things will be as bad as feared, I didn’t want to give false hope. Trump is going to go for the worst. But I do believe heroes will emerge when we need them. They always have in times like these. But things will get very bad. I think things ARE happening behind the scenes to do something. For those who see inaction, like r478, the election just happened. Though we don’t have much time, Pres Biden has been ahead of them more than not. We will see pussies emerge, and many will let us down (Joe and Mika).

Prepare, and enjoy life.

Gay? Keep your eye to the ground, buy a gun ( I hate saying this bc of the risk of suicide- DON’T PANIC even when things start going off the rails), listen to orgs you trust.

POC esp Hispanic. Same, but always carry ID. You’ll be harassed. DO NOT CARRY CASH AROUND that’s easily found. They’ll take it. Keep contacts with LULAC, NAACP, and so on.

Call Democrats from around the country’s offices, esp POC, to get info. Don’t wait for anyone here to give you info. Be proactive. Be prepared. Save $. Buy things you feel will go up due to tariffs. Doc visits. All before Jan 20th. Things like that.

Maybe someone will stop him. Maybe Republicans will finally grow a pair and stand up to him. He cannot fight both parties. He can’t. Maybe, and I say this Bluth eye rolls, the courts will stop him. Maybe our allies will thwart most of what he wants to do. Lots of maybes, but that’s that best I have at the moment.

*ear to the ground not eye🤣

Oh and watch V again. The original. It came out 3 years after I was born, but my uncle introduced it to me, and I believe things will go down very much like it did in the mini-series.

[quote]We will see pussies emerge

Pics please.

I just don't think I'll ever understand what it is about that man that makes so many people want to throw their lives away for him.

R484 He made it very acceptable to let out all their ugly. Look many posters here. Gay men and women who've taken cunting to historic levels letting their racism run wild. It sadly feels good to let out anger this way.

Plus, he had help cultivating this from foreign entities, Corps, and our media.

It's been building like a pressure cooker for the past 30 years.

Vile cunts like Atwater, Gingrich, Lucianne, Free Republic, Coulter....they stoked these fires with lies and innuendo and a healthy dose of good ole American racism and misogyny.

R486 correct, it has been building ever since Republicans have built their toxic echo chamber of lies, fear, meanness in the 90s.

It's a cult.

A cult of hate, greed, fear and envy.

These are the idiots who buy a giant, brand new $60k SUV and bitch about paying $1 more for eggs.

They have no grip on reality. Their minds are consumed by toxic sludge from fux and reich wing media, yet they refuse to turn it off or even look somewhere else for confirmation or refutation.

They're motherfucking retards believing the very worst shit because they are the very worst people.

FCI has become the Ultimate Concern Troll. Who had that on their bingo card for 2024?

I now believe he’s been a part of the whole Russian/Trump team, trying to instill and deepen hopelessness and despair amongst gay Democrats.

FCI was also the one constantly reassuring us to “Trust Mueller, he’s an old school Republican who will do the right thing” over and over.

He’s been spreading dissension all along.

Do we have a thread to move to?

[quote]Get as much cash as you can. Just do NOT do anything drastic.

I am under a blanket, in the dark, watching my security cameras.

FCI which firearm do you recommend. Glock?

Srry, not 590

Oh now I'm the Ultimate Concern Troll. After years and years of being the calm, reassuring one. Okay!

I know I have haters in this thread( I know who you are so sign your posts).

Somehow I'll survive the withering criticism from a fucking idiot.

FCI, just ignore them. I think you have valuable things to say and I’ve been following your suggestions. Just took a large amount of cash out of the bank to put in my safe at home.

FCI, you keep referring to "him", Trump.

My concern is that, at this point, it's out of his hands. It's the handlers behind him, the Puppet Masters, that are and will be controlling everything, (Putin, Musk, Thiel, etc). So even if Trump were giving a rally and struck by lighting, nothing would change for us. They're the ones we really need to be more worried about now and to go after, (though how I don't know).

r493 -

r490 isn't fooling anybody, FCI.

Forgot to sign my post at R494.

Doris, it's our hater from way back! He's jealous.

DCGay! Good to see you.

R495 True. Good point.

Miss Lindzey is in the Middle East again? She goes to see Netanyahu twice a month. What’s going on there? Our tax dollars pay for.these junkets, escapades, and trysts?

She gets to South Carolina how often? Two stops a year?

She’s been tweeting about Hunter Biden’s laptop the last few days, denying Russia had anything to donwith the matter. She’s being totally in line with Trump.

I cannot WAIT for that mincing queen to be kicked to the curb.

Nobody deserves it more.

[quote] She’s been tweeting about Hunter Biden’s laptop the last few days

Jesus, is this stupid old bitch ever going to let it go? Of course, the fact that Biden hasn't issued a full pardon for Hunter already is actually kind of gross. And he should do it loudly and publicly and announce that the prosecution has been shit from start to finish. And that it was done entirely on behalf of the most corrupt president and the most corrupt Senators in American history. Call them out on being the fucking Russian agents they all are.

Well, this'll make Trump quake in his elevator shoes:

I know some of you have complained she has a whiny voice, but please try to listen to what she says, rather than how she says it. Some useful info here. Thanks.

Merrick Garland’s Delay in Prosecuting Trump Laid Groundwork to Establish His Mafia State

Interview with Sarah Kendzior, author, "They Knew: How a Culture of Conspiracy Keeps America Complacent," and "Hiding in Plain Sight," conducted by Scott Harris

Biden should resign and Harris should pardon both Hunter and and Don Jr. for lying about their cocaine use on their gun licenses as a bipartisan show of clemency to ne’er do well crack head scions of Presidents.

Kamala should also propose Jack Smith for VP and when the house refuses to confirm him she should just say “welp I guess there’ll be no counting of electoral ballots.” since there’ll be no VP to oversee it. Let the House pick the president knowing that by not giving it to Trump they can permanently get rid of Gaetz.

If Republicans were serious people, enough of them, and it would only need to be just a bare few, they would switch to Independents (Murkowski and Collins in the Senate plus one more) and who knows, maybe 2-4 in the House, side with Dems, and stop all of this nonsense in its tracks. Form a coalition govt for 2 years until the midterms.

The fact that won’t happen shows you the rot is 100% in that party.

'memba this bitch?

The media wanted Trump all along. They’re happier than pigs in shit. Grow the audiences, sell the ads, mo’ $$$$$$$.

Biden should also step down now so Harris is 47 and the Trump merch grift has a problem.

Great idea, ElderLez!

With the added bonus of the US having its first female president.

[quote]The media wanted Trump all along. They’re happier than pigs in shit. Grow the audiences, sell the ads, mo’ $$$$$$$.

Ratings for CNN and MSNBC have cratered since the election.

Jim Sciutto, gunning for a spot on Trump's enemies list:

^Merrick Garland's legacy

How many of those dumbcunts voted for this at the state department? Plenty.

Fuck them.

He should have been arrested and held without bail until execution for treason.

PERIOD.

'Musk is guilty as fuck'

Cyber-security experts across America are raising the alarm of wide-scale election fraud securing Trump’s victory — and the data is compelling.

Two open letters penned by computer scientists and hacking experts have detailed how the USA’s election software was compromised and the relatively simple hack which could have then been used to fix the results in the seven swing states. They are calling for an immediate hand recount in key precincts which, they say, should swiftly show that a number of these ballots never existed.

There are already numerous articles online stating that this is a left wing conspiracy, and Elon Musk himself has warned that those raising concerns about the “hoax” will face “the hammer of justice”. However, the articles debunking these concerns have only focused on the claim that Musk used his internet service Starlink to steal the election. As detailed below, this is not what the cyber security experts are warning of — although Starlink may have played a role.

Huh. Here’s an interesting morsel flying under the radar. Note especially the paragraph after the bullet points: equipment will be AUDITED.

Wonder if anything odd will show up?

R516 Thank you for posting that.

My question is, WHO will be doing the auditing? How will it be overseen?

Seems that it will be the state of Arizona, r517.

I would guess the Secretary of State who is in charge of elections. A Democrat, iirc.

FCI, Della, I'm the one who's been posting most of the election fraud articles the past few days.

To be clear, I TOTALLY believe it. Without getting into the mechanics, I believe anywhere from 10 to 20 million votes for Kamala Harris were either deleted or somehow switched to Trump. Not solely just one or the other, but a combination of both. I think each state had a different strategy depending on how the votes were tabulated. Then they all worked in concert to give us the rigged results we are now living with.

I believe if the ballots had been tabulated properly, Kamala would have won by at least 2 million, but I suspect more, like 10 million. I believe she easily won both the popular and electoral.

I believe 2020 was rigged, and Biden won by a substantially larger vote. I also believe Hillary beat Trump in 2016. Because there were no PROPER investigations, (unlike Arizona in 2021), they got away with it. No reason not to rinse, repeat, and perfect the system, Then: Welcome Elmo!

That being said, I think I figured something out that's even more insidious, and it's so horrific, I'm afraid to even speak or document it here. It has to do with something I read in the AMA thread, that I thought was - uh - slightly implausible when I read it.

But then I read something in (The Guardian maybe?) that stayed with me, and I'm putting the two things together, and I don't like what I think I'm figuring out. It really scares me. It was a comparison some pundit or political opinion writer, (Kara Swisher maybe?). It was how we in this country were comparing Trump to Hitler. Her point of view was that Trump is NOT Hitler, that Trump is (I can't remember who), and Putin is Hitler. That made a lot more sense to me.

But now I think she got it wrong, that someone else is Hitler, and it's not Putin. And if not Putin, it's really obvious, to me, who that person could be. At least to me. And if I'm right, it explains SO MUCH. But we're really, really, fucked.

It's also stuff Sarah Kendzior was discussing. Check out her latest answering questions. I strongly recommend the one previous to this as well.

R519 I totally agree. It’s not unprecedented. Everything they accuse us of is a confession. Rove even admitted elections can be stolen if they’re close. Now, I don’t think they have to be close. I need to hear some proof. Since the votes haven’t been completed in many places, maybe they’re waiting on that. I want specific recounts in specific precincts/districts in specific states. NC being one of them. There’s just no way every downballot swing state Dem, except one (and he was one of the most popular), won yet those Blue voters voted Trump. There is no history of this happening on this scale.

They better get moving. Tick Tock.

FCI, In the interview I posted yesterday, Stephen Spoonamore said that no matter how much public outcry there is, no official, thorough examination can be launched unless the aggrieved party requests it. That would be Kamala Harris.

Spoonamore filed a letter of intent but has not received much encouragement from her few staffers he had contact with. He has no way of knowing if she's seen the letter or has any intention of starting proceedings.

The unfortunate belief is - and this really REALLY sucks! - even if they can investigate and prove ballots were stolen, deleted, changed, whatever - proving Trump lost the election - the final decision would STILL rest with SCOTUS. We know how that would turn out! According to Spoonamore, it could be the reason Kamala has stayed silent and won't proceed.

This could have been, (and I believe was), their plan all along. As long as they have the SCOTUS super-majority, it doesn't matter if they're caught, SCOTUS will still make the decision in their favor, and stop any recounts from taking place. We are so fucked!

^^^ I forgot to add, SCOTUS will stop the recount just like they did in 2000.

I don’t want to further concern troll (well I did warn you of Covid and that is provable), but keep your eyes and ears open for Bird Flu pandemic news. Again, when watching the news, look at the anchors’ faces. That will tell you how serious it is. They cannot hide true fear well.

Stock up on masks and ass wipe again, FCI?

I still have about 20 plus three bottles of rubbing alcohol.

I’m not going to lie- stock up on everything regardless. The worst is you have plenty of toilet paper and paper towels.

Dog and cat food, too.

Is my troll happy with my concern?

Dog and cat food will be the kicker.

Got plenty of pasta. Also, buy you some powdered milk. That really served me well in the last plague

My cousin works for a hospital near Boston and he mentioned it to me last week, (bird flu).

Meanwhile, anyone here other than me familiar with Jenny Cohn? It took awhile, but she's finally coming around....

There is no reason for freaking out over bird flu. I don’t know why people are desperate to make bird flu happen, but it isn’t right now unless you are a cow. Don’t French kiss a chicken or drink raw milk and you’ll be fine. One infected pig and a handful of infected dairy workers with (actually) mild illness that responds to tamiflu do not a pandemic make.

ElderLez, Concern Troll FCI is urging gays to buy guns to fend off the waves of bird flu-infected MAGAts who are coming for your cash and dry cat food!

R529 that’s the hope. Stock up anyway.

R530 oh you little bitch. Sign your name. Trolldar is revealing. Very revealing, but your other account is even more so. One thing, it’s Poll Troll’s biggest fan. And it’s the one who was freaking out about Doris and I speaking back and forth. The only time you post in this thread is about me. 🤣 Care to sign your name so we can come back to this in, say, 4/5/6 months? Your name callingYou’re a jealous bitter little bitch. Nothing you say will affect my reputation, nor do I care. I rarely post.

* Your name calling is hysterical given I’ve outed you as a Trumper in another thread.

No disrespect FCI, but on this topic my sources are better than yours.

I suspect, but don’t know, that this artificial panic over bird flu is meant to plant emotion driven division talking points for the upcoming Congressional assault on NIAID.

R533 I don't doubt you. I just said to watch the faces of the anchors when they report anything about it. That's what I was told last time about Covid. I always stock up after Covid. I have a 3 month supply of everything. Just being cautious.

Trump definitely changed me. I know some see the change in my posting. I'm not talking about my hater. It has a long history of hating on me. People who have worked in politics a long time, and experts, are very, very concerned about what's coming with this administration. My Trumper hater hates that I point this out so starkly, but I'm hardly alone. I hate what he's done to me, and the world.

Remember to run for president if you're going to go around criming:

I would certainly agree that this incoming administration is terrifyingly awful.

We do need to choose our battles.

I heartily concur, FCI.

I've cut so many people out of my life because I now see what bigoted cunts they are.

My family has a history of depression, and the thought of this goddamn TRAITOR stinking up the WH again is just too much. Especially since nobody but us seems to even give a fuck. Nobody who COULD do something about it WILL do something about it.

I don't know how I will be able to survive this again. I'm really struggling - I feel completely abandoned and left to die by the people who said they would protect us.

R537 Which is why I advise to do things in your control to mitigate whatever they do. It alleviates my anxiety and stress. Like I said about Covid. I keep a 3 month supply of everything which greatly helps me concentrate on other things. I was never in Boy Scouts, but I was always a planner, and always prepared. Blue groups are popping up all over SM to offer support and advice. Blue Sky is one of the best places to go for this and also to alleviate your anxiety. It's so much healthier than Twitter, TT, or FB.

Made the leap to Blue Sky last week and feel so much happier.

*

ElderLez "I don’t know why people are desperate to make bird flu happen"

That's hilarious!

ElderLez R536 I agree. It’s impossible to be hyperbolic about what’s coming.

The upcoming gutting of the false claims act and the “camps” are the two items I think are most strategic (and important) to focus on.

Here’s an interesting development. Reward for anyone with proof of ballot tampering.

Timothy Snyder explained that destroying a country requires undermining five key zones: “health, law, administration, defense, and intelligence.” The nominations of Kennedy, Gaetz, Hegseth, and Gabbard, as well as the tapping of billionaires Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy to run the so-called Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, to destroy the administration of the government, are, according to Snyder, a “decapitation strike.”

“Imagine that you are a foreign leader who wishes to destroy the United States,” Snyder writes. “How could you do so? The easiest way would be to get Americans to do the work themselves, to somehow induce Americans to undo their own health, law, administration, defense, and intelligence. From this perspective,” he explains, “Trump's proposed appointments—Kennedy, Jr.; Gaetz; Musk; Ramaswamy; Hegseth; Gabbard—are perfect instruments. They combine narcissism, incompetence, corruption, sexual incontinence, personal vulnerability, dangerous convictions, and foreign influence as no group before them has done.”

check this out

You know how else it's easy to tell the election was rigged? Trump had NO reaction to "winning". You'd think he would have expressed some relief or happiness that he was now gonna get away with all his crimes. But there was nothing.

When have we known Trump to not gloat?

Like he said at his rally days before, "We don't need your vote. We got the votes," (or whatever it was).

Exactly, r547. And both HE AND Jaydine have been MIA since.

Maybe he’s afraid? Hmmm?

From Cheri: Ukraine is the breadbasket of the world, producing enough food to feed 400 million people. Trump will hand Ukraine to Putin, and Trump's trade war w/Mexico and Canada could conceivably make us dependent on Putin-controlled Ukraine food production. Especially after he deports migrant ag workers.

Actually the US grows much more food than Ukraine - but we do have a much larger population. The interesting thing about food is that it is like oil. International buyers look for the most inexpensive. If US wheat is less expensive than Ukraine wheat, foreign investors will buy US wheat. If they offer more than the US middlemen, the farmers will sell it to foreigners. The farmers are under no obligation to sell it domestically. If that leaves the US bakeries and other food manufacturers short of wheat, they will buy foreign wheat. Right now, there is essentially a glut of wheat, so the price is low relative to the cost of production. Wheat is a good crop to grow for marginal regions (low annual rainfall). It doesn't need nearly as much rain as a crop like corn. Farmers hate to wish ill on other farmers in other areas, but US wheat farmers are always a little glad when there is a terrible drought in other wheat growing areas like Argentina, Australia, or yes, the Ukraine, because then the price of wheat will rise very quickly to a more profitable level. It is not unusual for the US to export a lot of wheat and then to import wheat from another nation. Russia itself grows a lot of wheat, but its farmland is less rich and less reliable than Ukraine's. .

I'm thrilled President Biden pardoned his son.

Americans chose lawlessness on 11/5.

I hope Biden goes nuts with whatever he wants to do until 1/20.

Biden can do as he pleases the remaining time left on his term according to the Supreme Court. OK, ignore the Constitution and Senate and fire Alito and Thomas.

"Trump won the crucial blue wall states... by 231,000 votes? So if just 116,000 voters across those three swing states – or 0.7% of the total – had switched from Trump to Harris, it is the vice-president who would have won the electoral college … and the presidency" - me for the Guardian

‪Julia Davis‬ :

Meanwhile in Russia: state TV host Vladimir Solovyov and head of RT Margarita Simonyan rejoiced over Trump's picks. They were especially thrilled about Kash Patel and Pete Hegseth, predicting, "They will quickly dismantle America, brick by brick."

Maggots will cheer, too, r555, because they think THEY won’t be hurt by this.

Take my advice from up thread.

Brick by brick

South Korea is a chilling reminder democracy is under attack everywhere by the Right and billionaires. It looks like France and Germany are about to go through some turmoil. The Right is joining with the far Left to cause a lot of trouble. Voters really are stupid everywhere.

China has now bitch slapped us by stopping shipments of vital material for manufacturing.

Trump was America’s cancer in 2015, went into remission in 2020 and now the cancer is back with a vengeance in 2025

We dead

No, r558, not totally stupid but also brainwashed by social media algorithms that put lies in your face 24/7/365.

Media that lies or refuses to report the facts lest some billionaire or maggot takes offesnse.

A political party in thrall to a hostile foreign government and everyone who COULD do something to prevent it (five eyes/ICC/CIA) too afraid or too goddamned COMPROMISED.

We have been attacked and are still under attack by Putin, his proxies and his bitches. This rot has infected every level of life and we will need a few good and trustworthy individuals to cut the gangrene out before we all expire from the rot of corruption.

These outrageous cabinet and other administration nominations, are the work of Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, and Jason Miller as they influence Trump. Most of those nominees have extreme views, lack qualifications for the jobs, and are loaded with baggage.

Some, maybe near all, of them are Russian assets.

Trump will sell-out Ukraine to Putin, and Putin will move into other counties in Eastern Europe. Trump will weaken NATO extensively.

Scumbag MAGATs of the populace don’t understand foreign affairs, don’t care, or believe Putin propaganda.

It will be so bad that another impeachment attempt will happen. Martial Law and dictatorship by Trump/Musk will be pursued. The U.S. military will be used to repel bloody protests everywhere. It will fail, but with many thousands of casualties.

The corrupt, shitstain dynasty will get overthrown.

Warning: Terrifying thread on how democracies worldwide are on the brink. Yet, I see so many pro-Democrat, pro-liberal, anti-authoritarian, anti-Trump posts greyed out on DL. I’ve been on numerous time outs within minutes when I venture into and post most threads about politics except this one.

Cunts think we should obey.

They can’t eat shit and die twice.

Fuck, I forgot to link the twitter thread and no I can’t find it.

Do you think that Trump is offering cabinet positions for money?

Yes. Of course. Everyone is being paid off by Elon. How did anyone think individuals having hundreds of billions of dollars was going to work out well?

R565 must be new here.

R554 Medhi you post on the DL?

It took less than a month to return. I missed you guys too much. Thread #73 is up, please complete this thread before moving on.

Welcome back OP!

Thanks ElderLez! It’s going to be a long, cold, miserable four years, I need my posse to get me through it.

We got your back, OP!

And if you're hot, I'll take your front, too.

Meanwhile, we’re over here being super “civil” as a fascist administration that plans to destroy us prepares for office.

Democracy under attack

Trudeau seems to be the only leader who is willing to speak the truth to the Great Unwashed.

Everyone else is afraid to do it.

New Treason Thread is up!

You're a little late, r576.

[quote]Trudeau seems to be the only leader who is willing to speak the truth to the Great Unwashed.

Because he knows his political career is over, he has nothing to lose.

R577 Oh, I never saw the link. Thanks!

Once they’ve declared qui tam relators unconstitutional and gotten rid of all administrative oversight they’ll have no trouble stealing all of our tax money.

FWIW managed to pretty much destroy NIFA in his first term.

Sorry wrong thread.

it is intriguing though r581. What's a qui tam, precious? What's a NIFA?

National institute of Food and Agriculture.

As for Qui Tam relators, back at the time of the Civil War Lincoln was worried about thievery from the war effort so a law was passed (the false claims act) that said if a civilian witnessed the misappropriation of government resources he or she could bring a lawsuit on behalf of the government and get a portion of any funds ultimately returned to the Treasury. Qui Tam literally means in the name of the king. The false claims act and the South’s lack of a similar law was probably a deciding factor in the outcome of the war. Anyhoo this law has been on the books now for about 160 with bipartisan support, but an appellate judge who clerked for Clarence Thomas recently ruled that it was unconstitutional and good ol’ Clarence and Alito have signaled that they want it appealed to SCOTUS so they can kill it off for good.

Thank you, Elder Lez.

[quote] I need my posse to get me through it.

Good lawd, OP, you can’t be Miss Lindsey???

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