Ukrainian men dragged out of nightclubs by army recruiters

Scary.

War fucking sucks.

People today don't have the stomach for it.

The only ones who want it are the leaders, who don't have to fight in the war.

I wouldn't even walk on the street any more, if this is how Ukraine "recruits" soldiers.

R2 They need soldiers to fight because of Putin’s punk ass. This shit is just sad. It reminds me that even with all the dysfunction in our country, this could never happen here. We have a lot to be grateful for.

Wow! Now tell us how they do it in your country, Boris.

How or when will this war end? The whole population must be Traumatized. I understand Ukraine is desperate to fight Putin off. Still how scary it would be to be suddenly forced to fight. The Ukrainian people are really up against it. Fucking Putin.

This is Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine's territorial sovereignty, and the right of Ukrainians to decide their future. It's horrible, but I do not feel much sympathy for young men dancing the night away while others are fighting a necessary war. They are shirking their duty.

And, R3/Prince-Akeem, I assume you are being sarcastic, because I sure as hell can see it happening here.

[quote]Wow! Now tell us how they do it in your country, Boris.

You think this is acceptable? You’re a fucking idiot.

R6 I wasn’t being sarcastic actually but who knows. I mean, I never thought an orange lunatic who looks like the Crypt Keeper on a plus sized diet while standing next to some good looking equally deplorable cunt saying all type of foul shit again the first black vice president while quoting John Wayne would be polling at 49%, while about 1/5th of the male members of my own race co-sign the shit. Who the fuck knows anymore.

“They just take me off street!”

r7 No, you're the fucking idiot. Their country is at war for their own land. What do you think would happen to American men in a similar situation? Look no further than the Vietnam draft, and that wasn't even about American territory. You can bet your ass you'd be dragged from a nightclub this way if Arizona was annexed by Mexico and you were losing the war. The problem is, you can't imagine that scenario because you're lucky enough that you'll never have to live through it.

But of course it's easy to moralise from the comfort of your own armchair a world away.

I wish them the best in a tough situation. Sadly, all humans are literally born to be used by overlords in some way, whether that's parents, managers, politicians, drill instructors, slavemasters, or more subtle authority figures.

I think this is a little different from a regular draft when specific individuals could be arrested for not reporting. This is casting a wider net. But it’s certainly not unprecedented.

Maybe the U.S. should be providing aid to help young men escape from Ukraine. It’s a war of attrition, meaning Ukraine is committed to killing off all eligible men in the country.

Any one who tells me that this is not the most suffered and disadvantaged sex of the two, clearly is a either brainwashed by extreme feminism or has his own head inside his ass.

This is deeply sad to see. It means they're rapidly running out of Ukrainian men *willing* to fight to save their nation. They had so many in 2022-2023.

One grim sign of hope here is that the situation is similar in Russia:

"In recent months, the Russian military has reportedly been forced to dramatically increase the bounties on offer to new recruits. According to investigative Russian news outlet Vyorstka, those who do agree to sign up to fight in Ukraine are now often in very poor health, with the average age of volunteers rising from forty at the start of the invasion to around fifty.

Other signs that Putin is being forced to scrape the bottom of the barrel to replenish the depleted ranks of his army include recent reports that sailors from Russia’s only aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, have been withdrawn from naval service and deployed to Ukraine as infantry. Russia is also in the process of passing new legislation that will allow defendants to sign military contracts and avoid prosecution. Tens of thousands of Russian prisoners have already been released from jail to fight in Ukraine."

[quote]War fucking sucks.

Fucking in wartime actually is rather intense and wonderful.

Could u imagine being 59 and fighting in a war? I’m 36 and my knees and back is fucked.

R17 it's grim and sad but a significant % of those age 50-65 who are signing up for that bounty are doing it as a high-probability they'll die or be permanently injured, but at least their surviving family will be a bit better off financially.

Horrible

Maybe the young men should be asked do you mind if your country is taken over by Putin? If they don’t mind they can stay home-simple.

Can I marry an ukranian man and help him get out of there? I have both American and Spanish citizenship.

Why is the lonely, mentally ill troll using a different name now?

If they don't want to fight, they can cede 1/2 their former country to Russia and hope for the best that Putin doesn't return for the last 1/2 in a couple years.

Them're the rules.

R21, Ukrainians are not the most progressive people. They’re homophobic and antisemitic. Leave them be.

[quote] [R21], Ukrainians are not the most progressive people. They’re homophobic and antisemitic. Leave them be.

I want Ukraine to win but I checked out early on when its main appeal for aid was to remind the rest of the world that many of them were "blond with blue eyes."

The THOUSANDS who came as refugees/exiles to Switzerland have assimilated quickly into society. They are not going back, no way. They ask for nothing. Switzerland set up large reception processing centres filled with those pleasant little mobile home - emergency shelter units, and restaurants and what not. They cleared out of them within a few months and the centres closed. Within ONE month I saw the mothers standing with their kids in the morning at the bus stops in my neighbourhood to send them to public school. In French, of course! Within a few months the kids were independent. I hear them on public transport nowadays and kids can speak French with each other. These are not stupid people. The adults are invisible in the crowd unless you hear their language. They got jobs and assimilated because they want to stay. Groups who have done this in the past: Balkans, Sri Lankans, Rwandans. The born in Switzerland Sri Lankans and Balkans are in my university now, all grown up. Clever clever clever. And handsome! Maybe it's the smart ones who escape?

I bet those Minsk Accords are looking pretty good right now.

I want Ukraine to win also but realistically we can’t keep funding so much forever.Putin is willing to tactical nuke parts of Ukraine-I believe we will see this. Putin/Zelensky future depends on who wins US race.

And then you have THIS douchebag.....

[quote] Maksim Chmerkovskiy Details Harrowing Escape From War-Torn Ukraine: "I Feel Guilty"

Dancing With the Stars' Maksim Chmerkovskiy says he is overcome with guilt and trauma after safely escaping war-torn Ukraine.

I feel guilty," the dance pro confessed in a remote interview on Good Morning America March 4. "I feel bad. I feel shame. I feel upset."

The 42-year-old dance pro had shared gripping video dispatches on Instagram while stranded in his native country after Russian began its invasion Feb. 24. "This was not me trying to publicize the situation," he said on GMA. "This was me trying to cry for help. I literally, I was just screaming out, 'This is what I just saw. I just want you to see it, whoever you are.'"

The dance pro was born in Ukraine in 1980, when it was part of the U.S.S.R. He emigrated to the United States with his parents and brother and co-star Valentin Chmerkovskiy in 1994—three years after the Soviet Union fell. Last year, Chmerkovskiy returned to Ukraine to film a local version of the reality show World of Dance in the capital of Kyiv.

He remained there for six months before he flew back to Los Angeles for a surprise Valentine's Day visit to see Peta and Shai. He then returned to Ukraine to resume his work. On Feb. 23, Russian President Vladimir Putin issued an order for "a special military operation" to demilitarize the country and Russian forces invaded Ukraine. Chmerkovskiy was stranded and began releasing video dispatches on Instagram.

He recorded one of his videos from an underground parking lot converted to a makeshift bomb shelter. In another clip, air raid sirens were heard.

"There's air raid alarms everywhere, literally right now, and constant," he said at the time. "This is now no drills. It's no joke. It's non-stop for about a minute, two minutes, three minutes now and it's all around Kyiv."

Back home in Los Angeles, Peta called for prayers. "Please pray that he comes home soon," she wrote on Instagram. "Please pray that he has a swift, safe exit. I have FAITH. I have HOPE and I have PRAYED so hard."

On day two of the violence, Chmerkovskiy said on his Instagram Story that he felt it was too dangerous to try to leave Ukraine, adding, "I have a passport and a way out. A lot of people here do not."

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy has declared martial law in his country, which bars Ukrainian male citizens aged 18 to 60 from leaving the country.

On Feb. 28, Chmerkovskiy said in another video that amid the fighting, Ukrainian forces arrested him for breaking curfew. He recalled the experience on GMA.

"They're like, 'Passport.' I pull out my American passport," he said. "[The officer] starts speaking English with me. I'm like, 'I speak Russian.' Then I regretted saying that, I thought maybe I was wrong. But then, the guy next to him goes, 'Oh, that's the judge from Dancing With the Stars. That's Maks. I know him. He's from TV.' He goes, 'Get inside, right now.'"

In an Instagram video posted at the time, Chmerkovskiy told his followers that the moment marked a "reality check" for him and that he was going to try to leave Ukraine. That day, he boarded an overly crowded train and 31 hours later, he made it safely to Warsaw, Poland, and checked into a hotel. He recalled seeing fleeing women and children bid tearful goodbyes to the men who were forced to stay behind, with some families forced to shelter in the freezing train station.

"I felt embarrassed the entire ride back," he said on GMA, "because I was the only man on the train amongst all women and children."

He said he later "realized that all the people that didn't get in have to now sleep right there, in that train station," adding, "There's kids everywhere. Babies everywhere."

Chmerkovskiy soon boarded a flight home to the United States. He landed in Los Angeles on March 2 and had an emotional reunion with Peta at LAX.

Now Chmerkovskiy is beginning to process his personal trauma from the past week, telling GMA he still has "crying moments."

OP and r3 are Defacto talking to himself.

The very definition of pathetic.

[Quote] I want Ukraine to win also but realistically we can’t keep funding so much forever.Putin is willing to tactical nuke parts of Ukraine-I believe we will see this.

Who are the idiots who keep claiming we are handing Ukraine money?

We are either giving them US surplus weapons that are sitting around unused (which cost us money to maintain), or we are “giving” them weapons or ammo which are bought from US arms manufacturers, bought with the aid money and sent to them. So the money is stating in the U.S. (weapons are bought here) and U.S. jobs are created or maintained by it.

This comment smells like defacto concern trolling. “Why are we giving so much to Ukraine but not to hurricane victims?????” He hears this on Fox “News” and vomits the talking points back up here.

It’s not either/or. Money meant for hurricane victims is not being snatched away and sent to Ukraine. And hurricane victims are aid — despite the fact that the same republicans saying the aid isn’t enough … VOTED AGAINST IT.

Oh and where is the evidence that the Russians will use tactical nukes in Ukraine? Evidence please.

r26 makes me wish we had thousands of Ukrainian refugees in the US instead of the pieces of shit we're actually getting.

I wonder if they rounded up our little mountain friend yet . . .

[quote]I want Ukraine to win but I checked out early on when its main appeal for aid was to remind the rest of the world that many of them were "blond with blue eyes."

You know what motherfucker? You would do or say whatever you had to get aid when you were in a fucking war zone.

If only he had enough money to get a DR to say he had bone spurs.

Exactly. Trump is a disgrace to up proud veterans.

Lol R34.

He's probably not even on their radar.

Someone said he lives in the Transylvanian Mountains of Ukraine (or something like that), so it's not worth the hassle to go and round him up.

[quote] It's horrible, but I do not feel much sympathy for young men dancing the night away while others are fighting a necessary war. They are shirking their duty.

Easy for you to say from your judgey little armchair, BPC, especially given that your country is at peace and you're much too old to be drafted.

R38 - Very true! But we're talking CARPATHIAN mountains here . . .

This may seem like a silly question, but why would these guys be going out dancing and drinking in nightclubs, in the middle of a war?

[quote] You know what motherfucker? You would do or say whatever you had to get aid when you were in a fucking war zone.

Guess what, dumb shit stain? If I am begging for help I certainly wouldn't exacerbate my peril by doing or saying 'whatever.' In particular, I would not suggest my tribulation is of special significance simply because I don't think I look like someone who should live in a fucking war zone.

R42 you do what you have to do. God, you're tiresome.

[quote] I want Ukraine to win but I checked out early on when its main appeal for aid was to remind the rest of the world that many of them were "blond with blue eyes." You know what motherfucker? You would do or say whatever you had to get aid when you were in a fucking war zone.

The blowhard R35 needs to just jump into a greasefire and roll around in it for good measure. At least ninety percent of the world is "a fucking war zone" and needs aid. What the fuck does blonde hair and blue eyes have to do with it and why should that be prioritized over other countries that are also invaded by war criminals? You shills for Ukraine are myopic and seem to think it's the only conflict going on the world.

r44 you can get fucked sideways. The man who said that was trying to say anything to get aid. Maybe you should put down your cocktail and get off Mother's chintz sofa and go and fight in a fucking war zone.

[quote] why should that be prioritized over other countries that are also invaded by war criminals?

You know why? Because Ukrainians are highly intelligent and have a lot of skills that benefit society. I would take one Ukrainian over ten Somalis any day.

[Quote] You shills for Ukraine are myopic and seem to think it's the only conflict going on the world.

Said the shill for Russia — because Trump likes Russia.

Defacto is relying on whataboutism, a logical fallacy, here. We can’t help a nation that’s been invaded with the sworn intention of conquest, because … other stuff.

Ok Defacto, how many other nations are currently being invaded by imperialist neighbors right now with the intention of absorbing them, and the country being invaded is a friendly state to the U.S.?

[quote]you can get fucked sideways. The man who said that was trying to say anything to get aid. Maybe you should put down your cocktail and get off Mother's chintz sofa and go and fight in a fucking war zone.

R45 Why don't you go and fight since you're the one running your fucking mouth and is apparently tough shit. Are YOU in Ukraine right now, bitch? Why don't you put your keyboard and put your money where your mouth is, Superqueen?

Hey r48 you need to go first.

[quote] You know why? Because Ukrainians are highly intelligent and have a lot of skills that benefit society. I would take one Ukrainian over ten Somalis any day.

Apperently not intelligent enough to realize there's a war going on and bow is probably not the best time for clubbing. Plenty of other countries also contribute to the world. Eyes and skin color have nothing to do with it R46. You'll never ein the oppression Olympics. R47 I'm not defacto you myopic dumbass. Fuck off.

Americans are extremely fortunate that their country is massive and has such diverse terrain, is bordered by two enormous oceans and their neighbors to the north and south couldn't find their asses with both hands, never mind stage a military invasion.

[quote]Apperently not intelligent enough to realize there's a war going on and bow is probably not the best time for clubbing.

Life still goes on. In Paris during the war, people still went out. It's human nature.

[quote]Plenty of other countries also contribute to the world.

I'm sorry but some do more than others. That's just reality.

And the blond/blue eyes thing is a way for them to get "wealthy"countries to contribute more. That's how the world works, honey.

“You are my wife!”

“Goodbye, city life!”

[Quote] Why don't you go and fight since you're the one running your fucking mouth and is apparently tough shit.

Defacto is at it again with yet another logical fallacy — this time the “you didn’t like my movie? You can’t say that unless you make a BETTER movie yourself!!!” variety.

Care to use a third logical fallacy, Defacto? Make it a trifecta of stupidity!

[quote] That's how the world works, honey.

No, that's just the way your world works, "honey." You seem to think Caucasians are the only ones who have ever accomplished anything or "contribute more than others," which couldn't be more false.

What's the deal with this defacto troll? I blocked it a long time ago but I don't understand why it's here. It's not gay so why is it on a gay board?

By the way, let’s remember Ukraine HAS BEEN INVADED and is MENACED WITH ANNEXATION.

Could that possibly explain why martial law has been declared? ❓🧠❓

The real stiry here isn’t Ukrainian conscription. The real story here is Russian dragooning into service. Does Ukraine pose an existential risk to Russia? No. Yet the Russians are putting the Ukrainians to shame with the cruelty and authoritarian conscription methods they are using. Largely men who aren’t ethic Russians — easterners and immigrants, to fight the Russian man’s illegal war of conquest.

And what happens to them once they’re conscripted? They are badly equipped and then marched into the Ukrainian guns as sacrificial lambs, to burn up Ukrainian ammo by being slaughtered.

R54 You're clearly intellectually lazy and limited. This is the last time I'm gonna tell you.

Defacto, Matt Anscher and Davida are the boogeymen of Datalounge. At least two of them haven't posted here in at least a decade, who knows if they're even still alive. But the obsessed DLers are still looking under their beds and keeping all the lights on just in case.

[quote]No, that's just the way your world works, "honey." You seem to think Caucasians are the only ones who have ever accomplished anything or "contribute more than others," which couldn't be more false.

Bless your heart for thinking Slavs are "white" on Datalounge.

R59 maybe not Poo and Matt A. but defarto definitely is.

I replied ar R5. I have 2 sons and 2 brothers I raised, as well as 2 Stepdaughter. Still, I do understand Urkraine is really up against it. Bur, if something like this happened here id be pissed royally off that they would dancing and having a good time. To be taking civilians of the street means they're desperate. I'd hate like hell to see any of my family jerked off the street. But not for country. Imagine another country trying to take over our country? I really don't ever think of it, but the thoughts are always there. I'm a little high ( yes I know it's daytime), but it could happen. It happened to many other powerful and successful countries for a while. I'm simply.just expanding my.opinoin from that thread yesterday. It really made me think .

[Quote] What's the deal with this defacto troll? I blocked it a long time ago but I don't understand why it's here. It's not gay so why is it on a gay board?

He’s gay. He’s one of those sad creatures, a gay man with a rightwing mentality. In other words, “Jews for Hitler.”

[Quote] Defacto, Matt Anscher and Davida are the boogeymen of Datalounge. At least two of them haven't posted here in at least a decade,

Anscher and Defacto still post here, sadly.

Defacto can be seen from orbit. Anscher is the one who says it’s good that Palestinian children are being killed, and says more should be.

Thanks r58 — an ad hominem attack is also a logical fallacy. Defacto achieves the trifecta!

R65 Add these to your nonexistent trifecta you limited cunt.🖕🖕

Truth hurts, don’t it, fatnose?

There needs to be a negotiated peace settlement.

[quote]No, that's just the way your world works, "honey." You seem to think Caucasians are the only ones who have ever accomplished anything or "contribute more than others," which couldn't be more false.

White men are about 8% of the world's population. They've done pretty well...

They loved the nightlife and now they see some actshooooone.

The war can’t go on forever. At some point all the Ukrainian men eligible to fight will have fled or have been killed. Hopefully peace negotiations will have begun before that.

[quote] You know why? Because Ukrainians are highly intelligent and have a lot of skills that benefit society. I would take one Ukrainian over ten Somalis any day.

E46 is a nasty, racist cunt.

r72 spend some time around Somalis and get back to us.

[quote] Truth hurts, don’t it, fatnose?

It clearly hurts you more than it hurts me, you fascist cunt. R72 You are absolutely correct, my friend. Unfortunately, this website is full of narrow-minded, miserable losers like that.

r74 you can also spend some time around Somalis.

R75 Spend some time with a therapist. Work out your racial and cultural biases. Somalis aren't going anywhere. Deal with it.

r76 you need to spend some time with them. Just because they're black doesn't mean they can't be fucking awful people. Deal with it.

[quote] Just because they're black doesn't mean they can't be fucking awful people.

R77 Nobody said that. Awful people come in every race. You don't even know the race of the anonymous posters here. You clearly are the one with problems to deal with. Get therapy for your racial and cultural biases.

r78 go to Maine. Everybody hates the Somalis, even other black people.

By the way, Russians are also pieces of shit.

R79 Black Americans hate any blacks who come over here and are upper echelon within the next generation sending their children to prestigious universities. They hate on West Indians too, they just are a little cooler and more cultural similar than East Africans.

[quote] Black Americans hate any blacks who come over here and are upper echelon within the next generation sending their children to prestigious universities. They hate on West Indians too, they just are a little cooler and more cultural similar than East Africans.

R81 ¡Hola, Senior Teacunt! Still pretending to be Black when you're really Latino, pinche pendejo? Don't you dare speak on my people you confused, mentally deficient ogre. I've never seen more bullshit in one paragraph. You clearly know nothing about African Americans. We hate on delusional, fake fucks like you who think you can infiltrate our race and culture. You're more like Rachel Dolezal than Michelle Obama. You're not like us.🖕🖕