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Meet the silver squatters: Adults in their mid-50s who are woefully unprepared for retirement

They do, however, largely expect to be reliant on family for support once they retire. Around 24% of 55-year-olds say they expect financial support from their family members, with 21% adding they also needing housing support, the report said.

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by Anonymousreply 77October 6, 2024 6:17 AM

that's me

by Anonymousreply 1October 5, 2024 8:30 PM

Paywalled

by Anonymousreply 2October 5, 2024 8:32 PM

R1 Same. It's such a frightening prospect.

by Anonymousreply 3October 5, 2024 8:34 PM

Paywall, nay wall

by Anonymousreply 4October 5, 2024 8:35 PM

People worried about a paywall are really in for trouble!

by Anonymousreply 5October 5, 2024 8:51 PM

The reality of rural America. All my relatives that are poor are taking themselves out with meth booze and fentanyl. The youngster tried to take himself out with a single car accident but ended up with a DUI. I should be able to keep what I have for myself. They have bred but the state is going to take the boy so his prospects can only improve.

by Anonymousreply 6October 5, 2024 8:54 PM

[quote]they expect financial support from their family members

That usually means parents. Do they honestly expect their parents will be alive during their retirement years? What crack are they smoking?

by Anonymousreply 7October 5, 2024 8:55 PM

Lost my business and home during covid. Used all my savings to get back to normal. Starting over again at 51. It’ scary. Being extra sweet to my nieces and nephews as they may have to take care of my old ass someday.

by Anonymousreply 8October 5, 2024 8:58 PM

Snap out of it! ^

by Anonymousreply 9October 5, 2024 9:13 PM

[quote]the median retirement savings for those in their mid-50s is just under $48,000, with 35% of 55-year-olds having less than $10,000 saved and 18% having saved nothing at all in 2023.

Eeek

Makes me feel a little better about myself. I have about $150K at 50, which is not great but apparently much better than most.

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by Anonymousreply 10October 5, 2024 9:17 PM

Y’all fucked!

I saved excess “cash” so that my net income from 63-70 would be the same as on my retirement date (only at 70 would I take SS and 401(k) distributions). Until then I draw down on my tax-free muni fund account (the saved cash) to keep me at the same level as the day I walked away from corporate America. So far, so good.

by Anonymousreply 11October 5, 2024 9:24 PM

I’m 51, woefully unprepared aside from owning my home which I inherited.

by Anonymousreply 12October 5, 2024 9:25 PM

My retirement plan is suicide.

by Anonymousreply 13October 5, 2024 9:30 PM

R7 they think their kids are going to save them. Which i guess means Gen Z. Ummm yeah, good luck with that!

by Anonymousreply 14October 5, 2024 9:36 PM

R13, don’t you have kid(s)? Sounds a bit brutal.

by Anonymousreply 15October 5, 2024 9:48 PM

I am retired payroll and can tell you this story is 100% accurate. I've had far too many, long term employees in their mid to late 50s , stop by to discuss what they need to do to start, yes, start -their 401K contributions for their anticipated retirement at 65. These were low wage mfg jobs, so the salary was never high to begin with, so not much on the SS side. Our company held annual meet-greets with the company retirement specialist handling our plan. Free retirement planning sessions, a match up to 4%, etc. Those folks are probably still working, if their health allowed for it and the company did not lay them off. Sad, really sad.

by Anonymousreply 16October 5, 2024 10:05 PM

Speaking from personal knowledge, and with hand to God, I can attest to GenX's being the most fucked cohort ever.

by Anonymousreply 17October 5, 2024 10:08 PM

If you’re 51 and suddenly realize you have $0 for retirement, get a second job and bank the proceeds in a tax-resistant, untouchable fund.

by Anonymousreply 18October 5, 2024 10:10 PM

[Quote] People worried about a paywall are really in for trouble!

I’m r4, I have 1.3 million dollars in 401k and pension, a $250k index mutual fund, several CDs in the aggregate value of $300k, a home worth 700k shared with my partner that’s almost paid off, and two small businesses that net about $80k a year.

And I say again, paywall, nay wall.

by Anonymousreply 19October 5, 2024 10:15 PM

I forgot to add, $200k completely liquid in the bank ^^^

by Anonymousreply 20October 5, 2024 10:16 PM

R19. No one likes a braggart.

by Anonymousreply 21October 5, 2024 10:18 PM

Whatever, R19/R20.

by Anonymousreply 22October 5, 2024 10:52 PM

[quote] That usually means parents. Do they honestly expect their parents will be alive during their retirement years? What crack are they smoking?

I was thinking that they (mid-50s people) were planning to live with their adult children.

by Anonymousreply 23October 5, 2024 11:19 PM

[quote] I’m 51, woefully unprepared aside from owning my home which I inherited.

Huh? At least you were being honest about inheriting a house.

by Anonymousreply 24October 5, 2024 11:20 PM

We'll all be dead from drought and hurricanes by the time mid-50's genexers retire.

by Anonymousreply 25October 5, 2024 11:31 PM

I'm 53, and I love my parents, but I won't be able to retire or even own a home again until they are both no longer with us.

by Anonymousreply 26October 5, 2024 11:41 PM

R26, will you get an inheritance? Is that what you mean?

by Anonymousreply 27October 5, 2024 11:42 PM

I'm sure bad financial planning is behind some of this; with others it's just bad luck, getting fired/laid off for an extended period and being forced to drain your savings.

by Anonymousreply 28October 5, 2024 11:45 PM

It's sad if you're waiting for your parents to die in order to fund your retirement. Anything could happen, cancer or long term care could quickly deplete a life savings...odds are high you'll have the rug pulled out from under you.

by Anonymousreply 29October 5, 2024 11:47 PM

R19 are you in your early 50s or younger. If your over 55, you need to step it up.

by Anonymousreply 30October 5, 2024 11:47 PM

We now bring you the newest Brazzers full length feature film“The Silver Squatters”…

by Anonymousreply 31October 5, 2024 11:50 PM

R1 and R3 You may be having to work into your 80's.

by Anonymousreply 32October 5, 2024 11:52 PM

R27, yes, that's what I meant. Of course, something could happen, but they're pretty well off and actually make more money now from passive income than when they worked.

by Anonymousreply 33October 6, 2024 12:01 AM

What do your 80s possess, r32?

by Anonymousreply 34October 6, 2024 12:02 AM

I would think waiting for your parents to die to secure your future would create an unhealthy dynamic.

by Anonymousreply 35October 6, 2024 12:06 AM

I wasn’t bragging, and many on here have a lot more set aside than I do.

I was just pointing out that I can hate paywalls and not be a silver Squatter, which I was accused of.

by Anonymousreply 36October 6, 2024 12:09 AM

[Quote] [R19] are you in your early 50s or younger. If your over 55, you need to step it up.

Not as badly as your grammar does.

by Anonymousreply 37October 6, 2024 12:10 AM

I thought I would get 250k from my parents but my mom wanted her independence and we 5 wanted our independence so mom spent all my dad's and her own net worth paying for years of in home care. Well, it was their money to spend, not ours to inherit! Them're the breaks. I have a forever rent controlled apartment in a wealthy European city but if were to loose it during my retirement, finances will go from tight to I dunno what. Charity case and a subsided apartment if I'm healthy enough to remain independent. old folks home for the poor, if not.

by Anonymousreply 38October 6, 2024 12:15 AM

With the onset of cheap, effective medications for conditions that once shortened lives, our parents may live longer lives. Plus new advances in longevity sciences (coenzymes that support cellular function and slow the breakdown of cell structures) indicate that those who live five to seven more years will likely live past 100.

Many boomers will outlive their assets. The quality of these longer lives is really uncertain. At the same time, social structures and forces of social cohesion are being eclipsed by online communities like this one. We have to be really careful not to become isolated and broke, or exploited by poorly designated trustees and caregivers. It’s pretty scary.

by Anonymousreply 39October 6, 2024 12:19 AM

Most gay people I know will be well prepared for retirement, because they don’t have a family to mooch off of. Not having kids to put through college was also a big help.

by Anonymousreply 40October 6, 2024 12:22 AM

[quote] I would think waiting for your parents to die to secure your future would create an unhealthy dynamic.

People aren't necessarily waiting with bated breath. However, I do think that middle-agers and older people are mentally adding their inheritance into their entire retirement fund.

My parents died relatively young, before I could even start thinking about inheriting anything from them. I did inherit something. (I have lots of siblings, so we had to split it up.) However, if they had lived longer, I do think I would be mentally adding my prospective inheritance to my overall financial situation.

by Anonymousreply 41October 6, 2024 12:28 AM

R37 Your proofreading will be of little help when you’re out of $. It’s inevitable that you’ll be disappointed. Any executor will be at its wits’ end.

Feel better?

by Anonymousreply 42October 6, 2024 12:32 AM

I’m caregiving solo for years for long-lived and unwell parents, and it’s been draining on many levels including financially as far as helping to pay for services and needs beyond what in-place eldercare supports I’ve been able to get to help with them. Then in turn this has taken a toll on my ability and wish to advance more at work, missing out at promotion opportunities because of focus and balancing with time out for parental healthcare emergencies and appointments, etc. It. Never. Ends. And saving more will never be enough, anyway, because things just continue to become expensive, COLA and benefits don’t keep up likewise, and it’s only unlike that for the so-called 1% who never end up needing to worry about that.

by Anonymousreply 43October 6, 2024 12:45 AM

I am 45 and have 165K in my 401K and that is 1/2 of what I should have.. These stories horrify me and also make me feel not as bad. Wow

by Anonymousreply 44October 6, 2024 12:56 AM

how would you invest 150k? put in CDs? Treasury bills?

What stocks to invest if trump or kamala wins?

by Anonymousreply 45October 6, 2024 1:01 AM

R43, can you find a support group? I was my mom's caregiver and she wasn't even doing that bad (she could walk and go to the bathroom on her own). Yes, it's tiring. A LOT of other people are going through what you're going through. You're not alone out there. I went to a support group and it helped a lot.

by Anonymousreply 46October 6, 2024 1:18 AM

How old are you? The younger you are the more you should buy stocks or ETFs with $150K. If you’re not so young, mix and match with longer term CDs or similar. If you’re older, invest in tax-advantaged shorter term investments (as in a muni bond fund with tax-exempt status in your state, if possible). Or die now—someone else will thank you for the gift.

by Anonymousreply 47October 6, 2024 1:18 AM

R47- WHO THE FUCK are you speaking to? Other than that, I am looking into your advice now--

by Anonymousreply 48October 6, 2024 1:22 AM

There will be no retirement for most people aged 55 and under.

by Anonymousreply 49October 6, 2024 1:23 AM

The person above investing 150K. Who the fuck else?

See r45

by Anonymousreply 50October 6, 2024 1:25 AM

There is no retirement for people aged 55 and under who don’t work in public safety.

FIFY

by Anonymousreply 51October 6, 2024 1:27 AM

R50- I'm sorry, baby. I am too stupid to live, basically.

Thank you :)

by Anonymousreply 52October 6, 2024 1:28 AM

I retired several years ago at 50 with $2 million.

I enjoy reading articles like these while I pinch my nipples and whisper my own name.

by Anonymousreply 53October 6, 2024 1:30 AM

You get yourself off?! ;)

by Anonymousreply 54October 6, 2024 1:34 AM

I am just shy of a million dollars saved as I prepare to retire, and I'm worried that it's not enough. I'm thinking of working for another two years on top of a side freelance job I have that I am not going to give up even when I retire.

by Anonymousreply 55October 6, 2024 1:36 AM

Do you sit on a traffic cone at the same time R53? All the way down?

by Anonymousreply 56October 6, 2024 1:41 AM

Gen Z won’t even make it to old age what with taking drugs, fake hormones, school shootings, suicide, etc.

by Anonymousreply 57October 6, 2024 1:42 AM

I'm just hoping to live on my pension and keep my retirement savings for emergencies. It will continue to grow, too, if I'm not spending it from 65 to 80, for example. My maternal side lives into their 90s and usually pretty healthy.

by Anonymousreply 58October 6, 2024 1:42 AM

R53, that’s not a lot to live on.

by Anonymousreply 59October 6, 2024 1:42 AM

You have a pension R58? You can't be 55 and under because pensions no longer exist for this age group.

by Anonymousreply 60October 6, 2024 1:45 AM

Smells like Elderly Homelessness

by Anonymousreply 61October 6, 2024 1:46 AM

Get out of the US, do not retire in this country.

by Anonymousreply 62October 6, 2024 1:47 AM

Perhaps I'm not the other person you think I am, r60. I am in my early 60s and still working in Europe - univ prof and yes I will have a pension. Teachers in USA still have pensions, don't they?

by Anonymousreply 63October 6, 2024 1:49 AM

Whatever Suze / R59.

I’ve got two paid off homes, no debt and I’m drawing down $6000/month from my savings, dividends, REIT payments and interest until I can access my retirement accounts and SS in several years.

I’m good.

by Anonymousreply 64October 6, 2024 2:14 AM

Again, as life expectancy increases and you’re worried about money:

1) Get a job if you’re able and healthy

2j If employed and healthy, get a part-time job if able

In my office, our Executive Assistant is 75…she manages our office functions, is skilled to step into virtually any position in the case of sickness or absence, and she maintains our web site.

She says if she retired, she’d quickly become depressed, lose her mental sharpness, and would gain 20 lbs.

by Anonymousreply 65October 6, 2024 2:43 AM

R63 public safety and other governmental workers, and union employee—almost always YES. The rest of us —NO.

by Anonymousreply 66October 6, 2024 2:48 AM

R65- Your post gave me hope. i am not even 45 but know that I always want to work.

by Anonymousreply 67October 6, 2024 2:56 AM

Lyle Menendez has entered the chat at r26!

by Anonymousreply 68October 6, 2024 3:11 AM

The linked article from Stanford should give GenXers like me hope, but its prescriptive tone just makes me want to eat a box of cookies:

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by Anonymousreply 69October 6, 2024 3:12 AM

Is it just me or does anybody else notice that the majority of the new homeless are Gen Xers? There are just tons of down and out people in their 40's and 50's

by Anonymousreply 70October 6, 2024 3:22 AM

May retire next year. I have about $1 million saved (IRA and brokerage account) along with another $100,000 cash in the bank. I will have a modest Social Security monthly income. I don't think it's all that much, but that's what I have. I own my own condo, no mortgage. It's still scary. I may work for another couple of years, save my salary and just live off SS.

by Anonymousreply 71October 6, 2024 4:28 AM

That’s not a lot unless you plan to die within a decade.

by Anonymousreply 72October 6, 2024 5:00 AM

How much will you get monthly from SS R71?

You're in a much better financial position than the vast majority.

by Anonymousreply 73October 6, 2024 5:13 AM

R73. $3600

by Anonymousreply 74October 6, 2024 5:49 AM

Scary. The only plan is to keep working as long as possible so that Social Security payments increase. Have a partner or a roommate and put as much as possible in the Market now. As a teacher I always had a meh salary and retired at what college students probably start at now. But my pension is actually more than my salary now. I’m one of the lucky ones.

If in your 40s, try to get a government job. You may be vested after 10 years and get a decent pension when you retire

by Anonymousreply 75October 6, 2024 6:04 AM

Ooh I've got a retirement plan but thats between me and my god and non of your goddam business. You will find out soon enough how well your plan has worked. Enjoy your moment of virtue signaling but remember the reaper is always waiting patiently. The uninvited guest comes for everyone in his time. He won't be consulting you about your schedual preferences .Save your money if you want to and leave there rest of us to choose what were gonna do with our time.

by Anonymousreply 76October 6, 2024 6:07 AM

R45, just invest alot of it into a no load fund mutual fund that buys the whole market. . Also some stock that is safe and pays a good dividend. Talk to someone at Fidelity for advice. You can buy bonds too for a more conservative approach.

Don’t get hung up on who wins the election, A friend sold all his stocks when Trump won in 2016. A big mistake. The market has done great under Trump and Biden.

by Anonymousreply 77October 6, 2024 6:17 AM
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