Why do people from shitholes feel such an exaggerated sense of pride for their place of origin?

Wow. Just wow...

It's the GARDEN STATE!

You're asking why poor people are more nationalistic than rich people? It's because that's all they have, OP.

Switzerland is a passive aggressive libertarian shithole of Western Europe.

When I was high school. So I’m a black kid from DC but I went to high school in the Lower East Side. And all the West Indians used to swear their home countries, granted they were born in America, used to swear how great in various aspects their home counties were compared to America. I used to argue with them: well then why fuck did your parents migrate here then lol. I don’t know if OP is trolling but it is kind of a thing. And I love my West Indians. Caribbean America stand up. Its funny because my boriquas and Dominicans, also in the Caribbean never used to swear their home countries were so much better than America.

It depends on the person. I worked with a Filipino immigrant years ago who referred to The Philippines as a "shithole".

Op why disrespect their countries though by calling them shitholes?

[quote]Why do people from shitholes feel such an exaggerated sense of pride for their place of origin?

It would be nice if some New Yorkers could reply with why they have that exaggerated sense of pride.

R6, he is right. And Filipino food is also shitty.

I haven't been, but I love Filipinos. They're so damn nice

They’re awful. I guess you haven’t worked with a gang of them.

The USA is a shithole these days that only it’s citizens love.

There are 115 million people in the Philippines and God knows how immigrants living elsewhere, r11. You sound genuinely stupid. Baboy!

Futbol

I live in an area with a large Puerto Rican population. They are insufferable about how great P.R. (of course, they've left it, to live here). Puerto Rican parade, they're the loudest during Hispanic Heritage Month, Puerto Rican flags hanging from the rearview mirrors or on bumper stickers. Murals/graffiti on the sides of buildings... man it goes on and on and on.

P.R. is a poorly governed dump...

THEY'RE EATING THE DOGS!

I bet OP thinks Switzerland and Norway are next to each other on the map.

How many people from Norway do you meet OP?

If PR were so great, they wouldn't have left. They deserve paper towels thrown at them.

DjT

[cough]America[/cough]

R15 = Ben Affleck

Why do Americans cling to the belief that it's the land of opportunity?

Economic mobility functions better in many other countries. USA isn't in the top 20.

R21 Who said that it is? I’m planning my exit strategy.

Making up trump like nonsense just to have a thread to post.

DL the land of total bullshit and EST

R17 I met two Norwegians in the MBA program. One was a professor and the other was student. Both were very nonchalant about their home country.

And I myself have some Swiss ancestry. Met some distant relatives and they also had the same attitude about Switzerland.

Had the misfortune of dating a Filipino. Complete opposite attitude. The Philippines is the greatest place on earth once you don’t live there anymore apparently. They use America for a higher salary and then take their retirement back to their shithole so they can have a maid and a driver and eat deep fried pig testicles all day.

Oklahoma people are the most baffling becaiuse it is a living museum of human evil.

And in South America, shit poor Argentineans take the cake for their unwarranted national pride.

It's how the dictators keep the masses inline.

I was born in Texas and raised in Mississippi. I don't have a sense of pride in either of those states, nor do I have a desire to visit either one (now that my MS grandmother is dead).

Is there a bigger shithole than California though, OP? It has bigger GDP than most European states, but it has more homeless than some any third world country.

THEY'RE EATING THE KATZ!

Biggest shithole I’ve ever seen is the one between OP’s fat MAGA ass cheeks

In my experience, the state with the residents who have the absolutely greatest amount of misplaced pride is Connecticut. They truly believe that CT is the center of the known universe, and if you want something that's not in your town of four houses and a stop sign, you shouldn't want it in the first place.

I could write a book about CT and the weirdness of the culture. When I went there for grad school, it was like being slapped across the face with a wet towel -- no, no -- a [italic]frozen[/italic] towel for three straight years, the people were so cold and insular.

Fifty bucks some Nutmegger will be here momentarily to make some snotty and effete remark about how CT is the best place in the world, and how if I didn't see how wonderful it is, it's my own fault.

Another “question” thread filled with racism.

Gee, who could it be 🤔?

THEY’RE EATING THE PETZ!

Here in Florida, transplanted New Yorkers are insufferable about how magnificent NYC is and how it's the greatest place in the world, better than Florida. When asked why they moved here, they respond with a combination of weather, cost of living, and crime. But, it's still the greatest place on earth. Don't bother to ask them; they will tell you every chance they get.

Californians are among the most annoying.

OP = MAGA.

Who also is so uneducated she doesn't know about the anti-Swede and anti-Norwegian sentiments during early 20th century immigration to the US.

Desperation. Let them have it - what else have they got?

r32 I was seriously going to say Connecticut, and I can tell you why - I was born and raised there. My mother is still there. People really do behave in the way you've described. I hated growing up there, because it was a weird Children of the Corn state. Yes, much of it is physically beautiful. I love much of the weather (but I hate snow and cold). I got out as soon as I could. I do love visiting during Spring and Fall. That's it.

All my family that's still there, really constantly say things like "I can't believe you left CT, so weird. Don't you miss it? Oh my god, I would miss it." etc.

It's all matter of perspective

Where I live, it's Americans who have the exaggerated sense of pride of place of origin.

Americans are not hated or disliked here, rather they seem a bit disappointed not to be received as very special visitors. This country receives twice it's population in tourists every year, so it's just that foreign visitors are not an extraordinary experience.

Visitors from some countries are perhaps quicker to identify their place of origin than those from others, bit it's usually a lesser point in the conversation.

Plymouth Rock Pilgrims.

They're eating the cats. They're eating the dogs.

If they were so great they wouldn't have been chased out of whatever backwoods, shithole shire they came from to squat their useless asses here.

- Native Americans, Fighting Illegal Migrants Since 1492

R10, except when you have to work with a bunch of female ones.

R35, they are insufferable when they come back for a visit, too...."It's too cold, too crowded, too filthy, no fucking parking...how the fuck can you still live here?"

A lot of Filipino gay men are great in bed but they may just be white man crazy. I liked to think it was me.

r44 "I liked to think it was me. "

It wasn't.

R44 They do have very clean buttholes. Great for eating.

R40 what a crock of shit. I have been reading travel blogs and forums for decades not one American, Canadian, NL, Brit, or anyone else has ever once complained that they were not treated as a special visitor. Or that they should have been treated as a special visitor based on their home country.

Here at DL you seem to see it regularly if not daily

I have never seen so much making up shit, lying, and nonsense as I have seen on DL. It’s an epidemic of est and bullshit as I have seen.

[quote]They use America for a higher salary and then take their retirement back to their shithole so they can have a maid and a driver and eat deep fried pig testicles all day.

So in other words, they pay into the system for years and then take nothing back in terms of Medicare and Social Security in their elder years.

What monsters.

Over Nationalism has scared me every since the Vietnam War, when pro-war people didn't want any criticism of the US involvement in that war. It was a constant "Love It or Leave It." You can love your country and not wanting it to be involved in stupid wars.

There is an employee at a local store I shop at that has a van with a Mexican flag painted on the hood of the van and flying two Mexican Flags on the van. I can't imagine moving to another country and doing that in another country. If you love that country so much, you should live there.

What makes R48 think they can't collect SS? If they become US citizens, they can, and they can take it back to their home country.

Non-U.S. citizens may be subject to different rules depending on their citizenship, where they live, and the type of benefits they claim. These rules are often based on "totalization agreements" between the U.S. and other countries. These agreements aim to eliminate dual Social Security coverage and taxation while maintaining coverage for as many workers as possible.

Op we all have our likes and dislikes. One man's shack is another man's palace. Don't ever look down on anyone because they prefer something you don't. Just be happy with what you have (if it's what you want) and don't worry about what kind of life others enjoy.

"I have been reading travel blogs and forums for decades not one American, Canadian, NL, Brit, or anyone else has ever once complained that they were not treated as a special visitor"

r47 You sound like an idiot, seriously.

[quote] There is an employee at a local store I shop at that has a van with a Mexican flag painted on the hood of the van and flying two Mexican Flags on the van. I can't imagine moving to another country and doing that in another country. If you love that country so much, you should live there.

This is such a weird, paranoid attitude.

What high school did you go to?

Ramblin' boy why don't you settle down? Boston's not your kind of town. There ain'int no gold and there aint nobody like me.

Believe it or not OP it’s because they are happier. No worries about that asshole at work that will snitch on them about the smallest things, no worries about that insurance or utility bill, no worries about over eating. No worries about that upcoming deadline or that wedding you don’t want to go to.

Overall they are prideful because they are happy despite being dealt a terrible hand, I admire that and wish I was more like them and not stuck in a first world country that will shoot each other because they saw someone else do something they don’t like.

Russians.

Thread closed.

DFW is the poster child for this, they think they are the center of the world, it's nothing but 50 miles or more of strip centers and parking lots, then people want to water their grass in a semi arid area, and try to steal water from other states, they don't get away with it.

That's exactly wrong R57 Oh if they belong to a cult like LDS they will tell you they are hapy when they aren't, but in general their worlds are so narrow and limited that they are continually obsessed with minutiae of their small circle and know nothing about what exists elsewhere. And they are in fact quite miserable, but they won't admit it for fear of being abandoned.

Yes bc being from another country is the same as belonging to a cult.

Mafuckin!’

I wuz razed rite

[quote]They use America for a higher salary and then take their retirement back to their shithole so they can have a maid and a driver and eat deep fried pig testicles all day.

Admit it - you were the cunt who started the whole " They're eating the dogs...." crap. Scum MAGAt.

I can smell your nappy pussy all over this thread, Teacake.

Canadians should top this list. Smug and self-righteous.

“These people invade our country and take away jobs from meth addicts that couldn’t keep them anyway. They spend money and that’s horrible, these places should just rot. They’re eating the DAWGS… I have no proof but I just want to scare you for votes.”

See the problem with being stupid is you never know why anything happens so everything that happens comes as a surprise. That leaves these morons with excessively high cortisol. They may move like overweight cows who have been chewing cud all day for their four stomachs, but that doesn't mean they aren't high strung.

On Edge. Unhappy.

[quote] Same with states. People from California are pretty relaxed and don’t make a big deal about it.

Three guesses where OP is from.

you can be proud of where you come from and acknowledge it’s impoverished and hard to live a good life. And why pick on Filipinos? They’re great people and most come here for skilled jobs.

[quote]Torontoians should top this list. Smug and self-righteous.

FIFY r65 (unless you were being sarcastic then I take it back).

Why aren't Canadian houses larger? They have so much space up there.

R71, no, I was serious, eh.

[quote] People from California are pretty relaxed

Riiiiiiight.

Also by OP…

My partner is a nappy headed ho He’s a cutie but every time we have sex I hate touching his hair. My own hair is very straight and soft and feels good to run your fingers through. But every time I touch his hair I feel like I expect to see a bone in his nose.

“What accents are the trashiest?”

For me it’s the southern Evangelical white trash accent and the North Jersey Italian American working class accent. Both of those make my skin crawl.

“Are you a niggardly ho?”

Do you make the other guy pay for the hotel room? The condoms and lube? And dinner too? Do you go for free HIV testing instead of going to your doctor?

“Signs that a movie is not worth watching”

All black cast + made in the last few years = woke garbage in which the viewer is beaten over the head with social justice messaging. This was not the case back in the 70s through the 90s, which gave us countless excellent black movies that were well written and extremely entertaining.

“We were poor but we had pride!”

Scandinavians do not even bother to reproduce to replacement value. Lack of nationalistic pride = extinction.

It's possible to flee from a shithole country and still be proud of customs, cuisine, certain geographic areas. Maybe some of the nationalism is just delusional thinking about a place that used to be OK and is now ruined by plague, famine, war

I’m a nurse and have worked with many Filipino colleagues over the years. I have always found them to very dedicated and hard working, and they are warm and friendly. And the food! Don’t work night shift with Filipinos if you are trying to stick to a diet. I ate like a king, and I learned how to make several favourites for myself.

[quote]It's the GARDEN STATE!

It's the GARBAGE STATE, there fixed it for you.

R77 Take your neo-nazi replacement language elsewhere.

[quote]Here in Florida, transplanted New Yorkers are insufferable

Here in California, we get their transplanted cousin people from New Jersey. You think New Yorkers are loud? Turn the volume up to 11. Then wait for them to ask whats wrong with you because you paused between a sentence. The never stop talking. And love to point out all the things California does not have back at home like hard rolls and pork rolls.

ElderLez wants to see a Viking resurgence

[quote]Switzerland is a passive aggressive libertarian shithole of Western Europe.

R4 I had three great fun weeks fucking my way around Zurich some years back. Lots of hot men! I'd go back as a sex tourist tomorrow! But I wouldnt call it a shithole. Very ordered though, I was in an orgy in a forested park that was interrupted by a Police officer ensuring that one of the participant's dog licence was up to date (dog was secured to a nearby tree and NOT a participant itself I hasten to add). The matter was sorted out and we carried on. The Swiss have a place for everything, and everything in its place, and it fucking works

[quote]I haven't been, but I love Filipinos. They're so damn nice

R10 thats been my experience of Filipinos too, there's a lot of them here, and I havent met a bad one yet

Check out R69’s post history:

[quote]I kidnapped and murdered ten fat nigger trannies, I sliced up their faces and bashed in their fannies, I chopped off all their toes, wrapped each one in bows, and inserted them into their rotting punanis.

Because the richest and safest countries tend to be the most boring and cultural wastelands. I have never found Nordic and northern European countries interesting although they are safe. I guess Japan is the exception.

Also those rich European countries are nationalistic, they just hide it behind humble bragging and other passive aggressive behavior. Criticize European countries and their chauvinism is intense.

But then the insane reveal : World Cup

r87 What about the world cup??

The USA is a very tolerant and welcoming country.

So many people fly Mexican flags in their yard or off their house. So many cars have decals and flags of various Latin American countries attached to them. It's no big deal. It's an expression of pride in where they came from. If enough from one region moves into an area, ethnic restuarants, bakeries, food stores open up quickly. Food shelves start offering culturally specific food for them. It's all seen as normal and acceptable.

Yet could you imagine an American moving to Mexico and flying a giant American flag from his new house there? Or Americans attaching American flags to their cars as they drive around Mexico, Colombia, Ecuador, etc. Or an American opening up a restuarant bar aimed at only Americans with a name like "USA Restaurant." Absolutely not. They'd be a target for bribes. They'd be attacked as colonizers, racists, settlers, etc. They'd be mocked as disrepsectful jerks in Latin America and in the US.

R86 I love northern and Eastern European food, but that’s just me. I know that most Americans find it boring and think Italy is the be all end all of Europe.

r89 sounds trollish

Switzerland is one of the most nationalistic countries when it comes to sports. I was at the World Championships for gymnastics in 1997 in Lucerne. The arena was deafening with those stupid cowbells.

r90 Well I wasn't just talking about food-- but music, history, etc. I don't care about most of Europe especially northern Europe regardless of how safe and developed it is. I feel like people are guilt tripped to have some reverence or interest, but I am at a point in my life where I am blunt. There are some things I want to see, but I have never been a Europhile. And honestly with the exposure of the unhinged anti American obsession exposed due to social media, I don't understand why Americans are interested. The obsession is intense.

[quote] Or an American opening up a restuarant bar aimed at only Americans with a name like "USA Restaurant."

It's called McDonald's

Sex with sheep is legal in one of those Nordic countries. That's why they are not boasting about where they come from.

What a bizarre post R89. There are American style burger joints and chains all over the world. And that’s before you get to the huge ex-pat communities is places like Belize, the Philippines and Costa Rica.

As a Sicilian American let me tell you, you can’t shut my people up about the old country. Mexican-Americans have nothing on us when it comes to tchotchkes and signifiers.

Is this Dorothy’s daughter Kate and Sophia’s granddaughter? When did you lez out?

I love Connecticut. If you're born and raised here it can be hard to live outside of the Northeast. People are smarter and mind their own business. And one great thing about Conecticut and the Northeast in general is that there isn't a lot of religious bullshit. I've spent a lot of time in the South and the Midwest and the Jesus stuff was unbearable. And yes, the people tend to be less educated and ignorant.

r41 you should read up on your history. The Wampanoags used the Pilgrims to help them fight Massasoit.

Native Americans weren't all peaceful people who got along with each other. There were a lot of tribal wars.

That is very true R99 but unfortunately reality smashes the joyful fantasy of wokeness.

[quote] And why pick on Filipinos? They’re great people and most come here for skilled jobs.

Filipinos are lovely. Asians in general are lovely people. Except for the Chinese, who are pigs. Every other Asian ethnicity will tell you that.

What's funny is that I've known and worked with many Japanese and Singaporean people over the years and they all love the US except for one thing - in the US they're considered "people of color." Holy shit do they HATE that. They see themselves as being in the same category as whites and being lumped under the POC umbrella really pisses them off.

The stupid fantasy that the Pilgrims were interlopers who invaded Massachusetts couldn't be more wrong. The Wampanoags basically made the Pilgrims their bitches - the Wampanoags used the Pilgrims in their tribal war with the Massasoit and also used the Pilgrims as free labor to produce more food for them.

[quote]I have been reading travel blogs and forums for decades not one American, Canadian, NL, Brit, or anyone else has ever once complained that they were not treated as a special visitor.

Sorry, R47, I ought to have first consulted you before making a personal observation - one so at odds with your extensive firsthand reading of travel blogs and forums.

I loved the March of the Swedes at the Kiev world cup back in the day. It was like a Viking horde come to life.

[quote]What's funny is that I've known and worked with many Japanese and Singaporean people over the years and they all love the US except for one thing - in the US they're considered "people of color." Holy shit do they HATE that.

Well they are one race there, the dominate race. I was talking to a Japanese woman in my building moved here but still goes back form time to time. She's an independent business type woman. Anyways, she was saying a company she worked for over there was SOOOO excited to higher an American based on his resume. But when he showed up he was black as can be. She said the whole management team was shocked because they just assumed all Americas are white. It literally did not occur to them that black folk in the US would have professional jobs.