Rosemary's Baby (1968)
It is now the appropriate time of year to discuss Rosemary's Baby. Roman Polanski was extraordinary faithful to Ira Levin's novel.
Mia Farrow leads an eerie ensemble; John Cassavetes, Ruth Gordon, Sidney Blackmer, Maurice Evans, Angela Dorian, Charles Grodin, Elishia Cook Jr., Patsy Kelly, Phil Leeds, Hope Summers, and RALPH BELLAMY as Dr. Sapirstein.
With music by Krzysztof Komeda and an unsettling plot, the film became a critical and commercial hit, In fact, the film was so effective, Hammer Horror legend Christopher Lee said it was the scariest film ever made.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 219 | October 28, 2024 5:43 AM
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What have you done to its eyes??!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 1 | October 3, 2024 3:22 AM
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Currently streaming on Amazon Prime with a Paramount Plus Subscription
by Anonymous | reply 2 | October 3, 2024 3:23 AM
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The film is so good, that you start to believe that even Dr. Hill (Charles Grodin) is in "on it."
by Anonymous | reply 4 | October 3, 2024 3:27 AM
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Maurice Evans character was gay, right?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | October 3, 2024 3:33 AM
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How scary is this? I’ve never seen it and I positively loathe scary/horror movies.
Is it more psychological or is there actual bloody things happening ?
by Anonymous | reply 6 | October 3, 2024 3:33 AM
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Paging Dr. SAPARSTEIN, Dr. Saparstein will you please pick up?
by Anonymous | reply 7 | October 3, 2024 3:36 AM
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Does anyone have a Scrabble game I can borrow?
by Anonymous | reply 8 | October 3, 2024 3:37 AM
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R5. Well, we do meet his daughters at his burial but he also writes 'guide books' for young boys so who knows.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | October 3, 2024 3:38 AM
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Mia was robbed of an Oscar nomination. She's in every friggin scene and no one could have played Rosemary like she did.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | October 3, 2024 3:39 AM
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R6 It is more psychological. Think elevated horror before elevated horror. It is not a slasher or a gore fest.
It is a slow build with complex character development. The entire cast give excellent performances, with Mia Farrow, Ralph Bellamy, and Ruth Gordon being the standouts.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | October 3, 2024 4:17 AM
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It made me run out to buy some tannis root.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | October 3, 2024 4:23 AM
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That's not fair to Saperstein!
by Anonymous | reply 13 | October 3, 2024 4:26 AM
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Biggest takeaway is don't talk to your neighbors.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | October 3, 2024 4:27 AM
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Oh shut up with your "Oh, Gods" or we'll kill ya, milk or no milk.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | October 3, 2024 4:43 AM
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I'm dying for a Vodka Blush.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | October 3, 2024 4:57 AM
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Sidney Blackmer is no slouch either
by Anonymous | reply 18 | October 3, 2024 5:32 AM
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Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | October 3, 2024 5:48 AM
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They’re a bunch of not very bright bitches who ought to mind their own goddamn business!
by Anonymous | reply 20 | October 3, 2024 5:51 AM
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This is my very favorite horror movie - maybe my favorite movie period.
It’s too bad Roman Polanski is such a horrible person, because that guy could DIRECT!
I love that all the witches are portrayed by old Hollywood character actors.
Just seeing Hope Summers scream “Hail Satan” is worth the price of admission.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | October 3, 2024 6:48 AM
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[quote Just seeing Hope Summers scream “Hail Satan” is worth the price of admission.
Yes. Miss Summers would just randomly shout "Hail Satan!" Sometimes she varied it with "Worship the Dark Lord!" That's why she was kicked out of Mayberry Bapto-Methodist Church in a lost episode of TAGS, R21.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | October 3, 2024 7:38 AM
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My mother used to sing this song to me when I was little.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | October 3, 2024 7:42 AM
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I liked the porn version, Rosemary's Booby.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | October 3, 2024 7:46 AM
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When a discussion turns to the idea if "a perfect film" this is usually the first that comes to mind for me. It's also a great favorite.
I've seen it many times and there is always some new detail or aspect to appreciate.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | October 3, 2024 8:07 AM
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Damn. This discussion is going to make me watch it again because I haven’t seen it in about 10 years and some bits are getting hazy.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | October 3, 2024 9:02 AM
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[quote]Just seeing Hope Summers scream “Hail Satan” is worth the price of admission.
I never really trusted Clara. There was something a little frightening about her.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | October 3, 2024 9:56 AM
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John Cassavetes was SO hot 🥵 in this movie.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | October 3, 2024 2:49 PM
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I was in 5th grade the first time I saw this with a friend, and just the intro credits with Rosemary singing REALLY creeped us both out, we were soo excited. It's been a favorite ever since the first viewing.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | October 3, 2024 3:32 PM
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Yes Mia was robbed of The Oscar, probably because no one wanted to piss off Sinatra. Who won that year? Streisand and Hammy Hepburn?
by Anonymous | reply 32 | October 3, 2024 3:32 PM
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It’s so good, especially for the period imagery of NYC and also the set and costume designs.
Ruth Gordon was amazing as Minnie. The whole idea of your irritating, nosy neighbors worshiping Satan feels close to plausibility when you own an older co-op in Manhattan.
Polanski’s use of nudity with elderly characters was probably shocking at the time.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | October 3, 2024 3:39 PM
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The horror of Rosemary’s Baby was what it represents on a nonsupernatural level - an abusive marriage to a malignant narcissist. That’s why the film still resonates, because there will always be that kind of relationship.
My interpretation of the story was always that Levin was writing about his parents. In that context, he himself would be “Rosemary’s Baby” - and that it represented the guilt he felt in being the cause of his mother staying in an abusive relationship with his father. Most women stay in abusive relationships for the sake of keeping their family together.
I know very little about Levin so I have no way of corroborating this. It just seemed like the kind of ironic autobiographical thing a writer would do.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | October 3, 2024 3:48 PM
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There is not a single bad performance
by Anonymous | reply 35 | October 3, 2024 3:51 PM
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How charmed was Mia Farrow’s life at this time? This film was such a big hit, and she was married to Sinatra, and had a hit tv show in her tailwind, too, I think.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | October 3, 2024 3:56 PM
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She was served with divorce papers during filming. Polanski ran over schedule so Mia wasn't able to co star with Frank in The Detective and he ended the marriage.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | October 3, 2024 4:13 PM
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Mia was on every movie magazine cover imaginable from 64-68.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | October 3, 2024 4:15 PM
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What makes the film more uncomfortable is that the coven is played by comfortable actors the audience would have known from their comedy film and television roles.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | October 3, 2024 4:20 PM
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Is there a curse attached to the film?
by Anonymous | reply 40 | October 3, 2024 4:21 PM
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I read the book a number of times as a teen and this is one of those books where I am convinced the book would be much better than the movie. So I've never seen it.
Ira Levin has written a number of great novels, my favorite being a 1970 gem entitled "This Perfect Day." Eerily prescient. Read it if you can find it. Do not read the Wikipedia, as it is entirely made up of spoilers!
by Anonymous | reply 42 | October 3, 2024 4:52 PM
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R42 Polanski gave a very accurate and close adaptation of the novel. It is worth a watch
by Anonymous | reply 43 | October 3, 2024 5:01 PM
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I like my movies extraordinary faithful two.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | October 3, 2024 5:03 PM
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[Quote] Is there a curse attached to the film?
Mafucken
by Anonymous | reply 46 | October 3, 2024 6:23 PM
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r43 the novel was easy to adapt to film. I think Levin purposefully wrote it that way. Very pragmatic author.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | October 3, 2024 6:31 PM
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Wasn't the husband meant to be a Robert Redford type? I think it's obvious from the start that Cassavetes is a bad guy. He's so shifty.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | October 3, 2024 7:18 PM
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[quote] Maurice Evans character was gay, right?
Grace Cardiff: Fag hag or FWB?
by Anonymous | reply 49 | October 3, 2024 9:03 PM
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John Cassavetes was good looking
by Anonymous | reply 50 | October 3, 2024 10:50 PM
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He was in Luther and Nobody Loves An Albatross.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | October 3, 2024 11:31 PM
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Be quiet, you're in Dubrovnik, I can't hear you.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | October 4, 2024 1:25 AM
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Yes Mia was robbed of The Oscar, probably because no one wanted to piss off Sinatra. Who won that year? Streisand and Hammy Hepburn?
Yes.
Also nominated were Patricia Neal for The Subject Was Roses, Vanessa Redgrave for Isadora, and Joanne Woodward for Rachel, Rachel. All excellent performances.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | October 4, 2024 1:36 AM
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“Its plain old Lipton’s Tea, now drink it!@
by Anonymous | reply 55 | October 4, 2024 2:17 AM
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How scary is this?
I think you see a naked woman when Rosemary is being babied. But it's not Mia.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | October 4, 2024 2:21 AM
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You look like a piece of chalk.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | October 4, 2024 2:21 AM
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God is dead! Satan lives!
by Anonymous | reply 59 | October 4, 2024 2:24 AM
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I love how Elishia Cook Jr. is the real estate agent in the beginning.
You even think HE is in on it by the end!
by Anonymous | reply 60 | October 4, 2024 3:16 AM
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Isn't there a plot hole about the former tenant being an old lady who would have been incapable of moving the furniture to block the linen closet entrance to next door?
by Anonymous | reply 61 | October 4, 2024 3:24 AM
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R61 No, she dragged the wardrobe. You can see the drag marks. The characters thought it was odd too, given how old she was
by Anonymous | reply 62 | October 4, 2024 4:17 AM
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Not content with being Satan's mistress.... MIA IS BITCH!
by Anonymous | reply 63 | October 4, 2024 4:46 AM
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[quote]Also nominated were Patricia Neal for The Subject Was Roses, Vanessa Redgrave for Isadora, and Joanne Woodward for Rachel, Rachel. All excellent performances.
And it was Patricia Neal's comeback film after she suffered a debilitating stroke.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | October 4, 2024 5:20 AM
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No gore, just horror. Just the way I like it. Too, bad APARTMENT 7A sucked so badly. I wanted to like it. Only watch for the costumes and Minnie.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | October 4, 2024 5:47 AM
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This is no dream! This is really happening!!
by Anonymous | reply 67 | October 4, 2024 5:49 AM
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Is it a mental breakdown or is it really happening? Polanski did a great job directing. Whatever shortcomings he has as a person, he made several great films. I like his version of Oliver Twist. Also, like Chinatown.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | October 4, 2024 5:55 AM
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Frigging auto correct....
Tannis anyone?
by Anonymous | reply 71 | October 4, 2024 6:01 AM
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It’s in my top 10 favorite horror films for sure. I like it more than The Exorcist to be honest. The feeling of dread and oppression in it just grows and grows as the film goes on. Unforgettable. I highly recommend the book as well, which the film sticks to very closely.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | October 4, 2024 6:04 AM
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ooh this thread is still alive
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In the 1968 film, Minnie said that Terry had stayed with them in their apartment. I wonder why in the prequel, "Apartment 7A" Terry is gifted her own apartment by the wealthy Castevets. The prequel producers could have simply made better choices so as to honor the classic original. A horror in and of itself.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | October 4, 2024 6:22 AM
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the satan costume which my much younger husband rolls his eyes at.
I don't remember this.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | October 4, 2024 6:26 AM
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[quote]R48 Wasn't the husband meant to be a Robert Redford type? I think it's obvious from the start that Cassavetes is a bad guy.
Yes. And the film was offered to Redford first, to star opposite Tuesday Weld. This would have given the newlywed couple a sunshiny, Barbie and Ken style wholesomeness.
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Monsters… monsters! Unspeakable. Unspeakable!
by Anonymous | reply 77 | October 4, 2024 6:48 AM
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I do believe Sharon Tate is in the party scene. She is not the first blonde extra, she's the smiling (unmistakable) one with the headband. The mink fur you see in that scene belonged to Sharon. She lent the coat to the production. One of Sharon's best friends was also in the party scene, Wende Wagner. Alongside them in the same scene was Joanna Barnes who worked with Sharon in both THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES and DON'T MAKE WAVES which were both Ransohoff productions
Sharon wasn't showcased in RB because she wasn't loaned out by her studio, Filmways, which she was under contract to AND Polanski and Sharon's producer had a major falling out over the editing of a previous collaboration, THE FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS. I love that film, too.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | October 4, 2024 6:49 AM
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As a New Yorker, I am very jealous of the Woodhouses rent controlled apartment.
If I had a child I’d probably sacrifice it in exchange?
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r79 That floorplan is flipped backwards and there wasn't a second bathroom, there was a butler's pantry between the kitchen and the living room.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | October 4, 2024 7:02 AM
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and Joan Crawford and Van Johnson.
A scene was shot, but not used, of the characters attending an off-Broadway play. Mia Farrow and Emmaline Henry attend a performance of "The Fantasticks" and meet Joan Crawford and Van Johnson as themselves. This was deleted to reduce the film's running time.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | October 4, 2024 7:12 AM
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[quote]Mia was on every movie magazine cover imaginable from 64-68.
Incidentally, she was on the very first cover of People magazine in 1974 to promote THE GREAT GATSBY.
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[quote]R81 That floorplan is flipped backwards and there wasn't a second bathroom, there was a butler's pantry between the kitchen and the living room. — the floorplan troll
Well, that’s the floor plan author Ira Levin did for the book, so he could keep the setting straight in his head as he was writing. Roman Polanski wanted to follow the book as closely as possible… but he did make changes here and there (ie, adding the butler’s pantry so there’s the tension of more than one kitchen door to lock when Ro’s friends want to be alone with her at the party.)
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The original Terry 1968 Playboy playmate of the year Angela Dorian.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 85 | October 4, 2024 7:23 AM
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[quote] my favorite being a 1970 gem entitled "This Perfect Day." Eerily prescient. Read it if you can find it.
R42, This Perfect Day is on Amazon, with a short, non-spoiler description.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | October 4, 2024 9:12 AM
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I love the party scene. Their eclectic group of friends says so much about Roe and Guy. They were the cool couple.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | October 4, 2024 11:35 AM
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R1's clip says it all---Mia was the weakest player in this melodramatic campfest. Tuesday Weld would have been interesting. Sandy Dennis would have been perfect, except it was too close to her role in "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf".
by Anonymous | reply 88 | October 4, 2024 12:56 PM
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Mia Farrow is enchanting in her fragility; she's just about perfect for the role- Pauline Kael
I agree with Kael. Farrow's vulnerability works for the role. Dennis would have seen too old for the role and isn't the actress to get audience empathy.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | October 4, 2024 4:18 PM
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R74
“Given” not “gifted”
Gift is a niun
Give is the verb you’re looking for
by Anonymous | reply 90 | October 4, 2024 7:50 PM
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Dennis isn't the actress to get audience empathy.
She had it in a few other roles but she was too Actors Studio quirky to be an American sweetheart.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | October 4, 2024 9:45 PM
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R39- Imagine Lucy and Viv in those roles. Lucy could have played the role of Ruth Gordon.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | October 5, 2024 4:19 AM
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Tuesday Weld would have been interesting
But Tuesday was notorious for turning down quality roles.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | October 5, 2024 7:03 AM
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R93 yes, she famously turned down "Bonnie & Clyde" (1967) which made Faye Dunaway a superstar and earned her an Oscar nomination.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | October 5, 2024 10:17 AM
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Weld explained that she had chosen to reject these roles precisely because she believed they would be commercial successes: "Do you think I want a success?
What an idiot.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | October 5, 2024 2:28 PM
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Don't think Weld would convey the same fragility and vulnerability as Farrow. IMO, the casting was perfect.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | October 5, 2024 8:43 PM
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[quote]she famously turned down "Bonnie & Clyde" (1967) which made Faye Dunaway a superstar
It would have been like having Bonnie and Clyde played by Thalia Menninger and Warren Armitage.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | October 5, 2024 10:17 PM
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Weld also turned down Lolita, True Grit, Bob & Ted & Carol & Alice, Cactus Flower, Norma Rae, The Stepford Wives, Poltergeist, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and Roman Polanski’s Macbeth - because she didn’t want to appear nude.
(European Francesca Annis had no such compunction.)
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 98 | October 5, 2024 10:49 PM
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Mia's haircut took on a life of its own in the media at that time. I thought it looked great on her.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | October 6, 2024 12:06 AM
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They should have had Minnie get a Vidal cut too.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | October 6, 2024 3:22 AM
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R84 I've always thought the woman in the green pants suit at the party who is visible in that photo was played by Kenny Roger's ex-wife, Marianne Gordon, very early in her career (well before marrying Kenny). Marianne is listed as being in the movie and this is the only person who possibly could be her.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | October 6, 2024 3:59 AM
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He was the object of Julie Christie's affections in Richard Lester's Petulia (1968)
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 103 | October 6, 2024 7:50 AM
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^ I think this was meant for the George C Scott thread.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | October 6, 2024 12:40 PM
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Conversations Inside The Criterion Collection
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 106 | October 7, 2024 11:43 PM
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Perhaps you’d better have your legs tied down, in case of convulsions.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | October 8, 2024 5:44 AM
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The R106 interviews talk about the tension between Roman Polanski and John Cassavetes.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | October 8, 2024 10:13 PM
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"Satan is his father now!"
by Anonymous | reply 110 | October 8, 2024 10:49 PM
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Cassavetes is very sinister as Guy and I love it. There's no doubt that this man would make a pact with the devil. He's also very sexy and you can understand why Rosemary is attracted to him. But Hutch clearly doesn't like him.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | October 8, 2024 11:10 PM
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I wonder if that hideous water fountain is still at the Dakota.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | October 8, 2024 11:17 PM
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I’m tired of hearing about how great Dr. Sapirstein is!
by Anonymous | reply 113 | October 9, 2024 1:22 AM
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"Why would she cover up her vacuum cleaner and her towels?"
by Anonymous | reply 114 | October 9, 2024 1:31 AM
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I knew this would happen. I kept telling my wife that she would kill herself, but she pooh-pooh'd me.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | October 9, 2024 5:01 AM
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Vodka blush? They're very popular in Australia.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | October 9, 2024 6:04 AM
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Carpet! (coughing and pointing) Carpet!
by Anonymous | reply 117 | October 9, 2024 6:39 AM
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John Cassevetes is sooooooo sexy in this film.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | October 9, 2024 7:46 AM
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John Cassavetes and Gena Rowlands made one sexy couple!
I wish they had won Best Director and Best Actress for A WOMAN UNDER THE INFLUENCE.
They lost to Francis Ford Coppola for THE GODFATHER PART II and Ellen Burstyn in ALICE DOESN'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE.
He also directed her in her other Oscar-nominated role, GLORIA.
And their son, Nick Cassavetes, directed his mom in THE NOTEBOOK.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | October 9, 2024 7:58 AM
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My mom really liked this movie. When I got older I rented it and I thought it was great. I just watched it a few days ago. I know Roman Polanski is controversial and sick, but this movie still fascinates me. Especially John Cassavetes and Ruth Gordon. Later on I watched "Look what Happened to Rosemary's Baby" which wasn't all that great, but I wanted to see what happened to him. Steven McHattie reminds me of Joachim's Joker for some reason.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | October 9, 2024 10:40 AM
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There are no witches...really
by Anonymous | reply 122 | October 9, 2024 1:02 PM
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[quote]Mia Farrow is enchanting in her fragility; she's just about perfect for the role
Agreed; she's not just petite, but has a child-like quality about her, which is about the only way she could put up with an asshole like Guy. If anything, it's surprising the Devil didn't already *have* his soul (or even want it for that matter)
by Anonymous | reply 123 | October 9, 2024 3:08 PM
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[italic]Typhoon! Typhoon! It killed fifty-five people in London!
by Anonymous | reply 124 | October 10, 2024 5:03 AM
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I’m watching it again right now. I want to suck Dr. Hill’s dick. He’s hot.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | October 10, 2024 5:04 AM
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I don't find Cassevette hot in this film. I keep picturing him morph into Satan and it doesn't make me hot. Horrified, yes.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | October 10, 2024 7:44 AM
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John Cassavetes is NOT hot in this.
He’s creepy and annoying… as he was every second of his LIFE!
by Anonymous | reply 128 | October 10, 2024 11:58 AM
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I [italic]won’t [/italic]have an abortion!
by Anonymous | reply 129 | October 10, 2024 12:06 PM
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As long as she ate the mouse, she can't see nor hear. Now sing!
by Anonymous | reply 130 | October 10, 2024 8:50 PM
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I can no longer associate myself with............
by Anonymous | reply 131 | October 10, 2024 9:26 PM
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"He was in LUTHER and NOBODY LOVES AN ALBATROSS."
by Anonymous | reply 132 | October 10, 2024 9:34 PM
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Reply 132, metaphor for that line of dialogue that Luther=evil and albatross=curse that cannot be escaped from.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 134 | October 10, 2024 9:41 PM
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[quote]As long as she ate the mouse, she can't see nor hear. Now sing!
Eeeeuww.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | October 10, 2024 10:02 PM
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It's the first day of my period....
by Anonymous | reply 136 | October 10, 2024 10:04 PM
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^It was intentional. Watch the damn movie.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | October 10, 2024 10:46 PM
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[quote] It's spelled mousse
Please leave this thread immediately.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | October 10, 2024 11:00 PM
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Rosemary: I dreamed someone was raping me. Someone inhuman.
Guy: Thanks a lot!
by Anonymous | reply 141 | October 11, 2024 6:02 AM
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You don't mean my tie do you?
Well, he's got mine, and I've got his.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | October 11, 2024 6:17 AM
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Can anyone elaborate on the character Grace Cardiff? Is there more about her in the novel? Why is her last name a city in Wales but her accent is Eastern European?
by Anonymous | reply 143 | October 11, 2024 6:58 AM
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Don't you think we should talk about it? The way you haven't been looking at me.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | October 11, 2024 7:57 AM
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Catholics only. I wish we weren't bound by these prejudices...
by Anonymous | reply 145 | October 11, 2024 9:35 AM
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He sounds like a sadistic NUT!
by Anonymous | reply 146 | October 11, 2024 9:36 AM
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What's that?
I've been to Vidal Sassoon.
Don't tell me you paid for that?!
by Anonymous | reply 148 | October 11, 2024 10:51 AM
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The first few times I saw RB was on network tv where the devil rape sequence was cut to bits. It was nothing but Roe passing out, hearing chanting and seeing the look of horror on her face as she says THIS IS NO DREAM, THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING. So, imagine my peasant surprise when I finally saw the whole thing for the first time. What an amazing, trippy scene.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | October 11, 2024 11:39 AM
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r143, there's not much more about her in the book. I think just a passing reference to her calling Rosemary from time to time to let her know there's no change in Hutch's condition. The accent was purely an actor's choice; there's no mention of her background in the book at all.
I'm sure someone smarter than I could theorize about the meaning behind her name. I feel like Ira Levin often uses names to imply or evoke other meanings. Cardiff isn't far off from cardinal, a key role in the Catholic church.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | October 11, 2024 1:19 PM
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I think Grace Cardiff is kind of a red herring. Rosemary doesn't know who she is and she has this exotic European accent.
Is she a Satanist? A friend? Is she giving Rosemary the book to mislead or help her?
You never really know and THAT is a little terrifying.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | October 11, 2024 2:44 PM
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But does the book mislead her R151?
by Anonymous | reply 152 | October 11, 2024 9:27 PM
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You look great. It's that haircut that looks awful. If you want the truth, honey, it's the worst mistake you ever made.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | October 12, 2024 3:37 AM
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A “Let’s Be Rosemary’s Baby” thread is needed!
by Anonymous | reply 156 | October 12, 2024 4:26 AM
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We must assume Dr. Saperstein knows whereof he speaks. He should. He charges enough.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | October 12, 2024 8:32 AM
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"It's not fair to Saperstein!" for that reason alone, Rosemary should've been a kitchen knife in Guy's neck.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | October 12, 2024 11:53 AM
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I guess they didn't rehabilitate her very well....
by Anonymous | reply 159 | October 12, 2024 5:34 PM
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Muriel never visits a city when the press is on strike.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | October 12, 2024 6:58 PM
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I've seen this film countless times. There are a ton of interesting side facts about this movie. I just discovered that one of the minor coven members was played by Ryan O'Neal's mother, Patricia O'Neal. She is in the clip below, wearing a gray dress and remarks "We're your friends, Rosemary." (I'm not talking about Hope Summers/Clara from the "Andy Griffith Show; I'm referencing the other woman).
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I just wonder if this film would still work if it was set in present times. The 1960s were really the last time women were meek and subservient to their husbands as a whole. Without a dominant patriarchal society, would Rosemary allow herself to be meek and isolated today? Would she let her override her on every decision?
by Anonymous | reply 162 | October 12, 2024 10:40 PM
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R162 I mean maybe in a more subtle way the dynamic could still play out. I mean Guy basically told her, “Listen you dumb bitch. I’m not paying both Saperstein and Dr. Hill”. The dynamic could still play out to an extent if he is the breadwinner.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | October 13, 2024 3:10 AM
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Tannis root? You sure you don't mean anise or orris?
by Anonymous | reply 165 | October 13, 2024 3:16 AM
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[quote]I just wonder if this film would still work if it was set in present times.
What difference does it make? It would be pointless to remake it.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | October 13, 2024 3:20 AM
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r162 wasn't Mother sort of a remake of Rosemary's Baby?
by Anonymous | reply 167 | October 13, 2024 3:26 AM
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No pills.
Minnie Castevet has a herbarium. I'm gonna have her make a daily drink for you that'll be fresher, safer, and more vitamin-rich than any pills on the market.
by Anonymous | reply 168 | October 13, 2024 3:31 AM
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[quote] wasn't Mother sort of a remake of Rosemary's Baby?
Not at all
by Anonymous | reply 169 | October 13, 2024 3:33 AM
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R165, is that a quote from the film, or are you asking?
There's no such thing as tannis root. Ira Levin made it up. I guess he thought "Satan root" would be unsubtle.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | October 13, 2024 9:45 AM
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It's a quote from Hutch to Rosemary.
by Anonymous | reply 171 | October 13, 2024 11:38 AM
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Shhhh. I think I hear the Trench sisters.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | October 13, 2024 2:07 PM
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Shhh. I think I hear the Trench sisters chewing.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | October 13, 2024 5:56 PM
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MAD magazine called it "Rosemia's Booboo" and it ended with the baby having Alfred E. Newman's face.
by Anonymous | reply 175 | October 13, 2024 6:37 PM
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I’ve always thought the Branford apartment building was American counterpart to the Three Mothers in Dario Argento’s Suspiria trilogy. The Trench sisters were probably on par with Mater Suspiriorum, Mater Tenebrarum, and Mater Lachrymarum.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | October 13, 2024 7:27 PM
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I just noticed he has pierced ears.
Pierced ears and piercing eyes.
by Anonymous | reply 177 | October 13, 2024 8:40 PM
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At first I thought they wanted me for some kind of a sex thing -Terry
by Anonymous | reply 178 | October 13, 2024 9:03 PM
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Dianne Wiest is amazing as Minnie in the prequel Apartment 7A.
by Anonymous | reply 179 | October 14, 2024 2:33 AM
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The old bat slaved all day, now eat it!
by Anonymous | reply 180 | October 14, 2024 8:05 AM
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Pain begone I will have no more of thee.
by Anonymous | reply 181 | October 14, 2024 8:22 AM
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Question. Was Dr. Hill (Charles Grodin) in on it or did he just think she had lost her marbles?
by Anonymous | reply 182 | October 14, 2024 7:13 PM
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R182 Saperstein was well respected in their profession. He's obviously going to think she lost it and Abe was to be trusted.
by Anonymous | reply 183 | October 14, 2024 7:54 PM
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It's like a wire inside me getting tighter and tighter.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | October 16, 2024 7:53 AM
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I'm listening to the audiobook read by Kim Cattrall. She does an utterly fantastic job too.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 186 | October 16, 2024 12:27 PM
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So Guy pretty much admitted to Rosemary at the end of the novel that he'd done "faggy" stuff with Donald Baumgart to obtain his personal item.
by Anonymous | reply 187 | October 16, 2024 6:22 PM
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R187 I didn’t get that from it but let me rewatch that part again.
by Anonymous | reply 188 | October 16, 2024 7:02 PM
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Has anyone ever found it interesting that Cassavetes is so close to Castevet?
by Anonymous | reply 189 | October 16, 2024 8:37 PM
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R189 and the director was Roman Polanski, and one of the main characters was Roman Castevet. Lots of weird stuff going on with this great film. Didn't Sharon Tate name one of her dogs Dr.Saperstein?
by Anonymous | reply 190 | October 16, 2024 9:18 PM
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R182, I think he just thought she’d lost her marbles. Dr. Sapirstein was a respected doctor so her tales of witchcraft and conspiracy just sounded crazy. I’m sure he thought he was doing the right thing calling Guy and Dr. Sapirstein to come get her. Not part of the witch cult but a part of the patriarchal system that keeps women at the mercy of men
by Anonymous | reply 191 | October 17, 2024 1:01 AM
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The minute Rosemary realizes she's maybe gone too farm telling Dr. Hill about Saperstein, shows Mia at her best. She still lets herself feel a false security before she's betrayed.
by Anonymous | reply 192 | October 17, 2024 2:48 AM
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We're having a party a week from Sunday. It's for our old- I mean, our young friends. Minnie and Roman are not invited. Neither is Laura-Louise. Not is Dr. Saperstein. It's going to be a very special party. You have to be under 60 to get in.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | October 17, 2024 6:25 AM
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[quote]Question. Was Dr. Hill (Charles Grodin) in on it or did he just think she had lost her marbles?
They leave it open.
The only thing early on is when he asks Rosemary to come in for a second blood test and blames his nurse for a mistake. In the book, it did not ring true to Rosemary that the meticulous Dr. Hill would allow the nurse to draw less blood than necessary. She felt he was keeping something about the test from her.
We also hear that tannis root had turned Rosemary's breast milk green so it's possible Dr. Hill saw something in the lab tests that confirmed to him later on that she had indeed been a victim of witchcraft.
by Anonymous | reply 194 | October 17, 2024 7:19 AM
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I interpret Dr. Hill two ways:
(1) He honestly thought Rosemary lost her marbles and called Dr. Saperstein, a respected authority and her primary obstetrician.
(2) Saperstein and the Coven got to him or put a spell on him so he would call Saperstein.
Either way, you never really know and it is frightening that the ONLY person she thought she could trust turned against her.
by Anonymous | reply 195 | October 17, 2024 5:28 PM
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Dr. Hill's personality change was the movie's most chilling part for me. Going from kind and caring to sinister. The look he gave Rosemary as she was being led away was almost hateful. It was kept ambiguous thanks to the skills of Polanski and Grodin.
by Anonymous | reply 196 | October 17, 2024 5:57 PM
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If Dr Hill was in on it wouldn't he have alerted Roman and Guy sooner and had them at his office before Rosemary arrived?
by Anonymous | reply 197 | October 17, 2024 8:11 PM
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Dr. Hill is not in on it. He’s just rightfully alarmed when a former patient shows up with crazy stories and books on witchcraft, practically breaking water in his office.
If someone plunked down next to you with a suitcase and Rosemary’s manic story, would you believe them?
by Anonymous | reply 198 | October 17, 2024 9:16 PM
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R198 right 😂 . That’s exactly my take on this brilliant film too.
by Anonymous | reply 199 | October 17, 2024 9:43 PM
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Whatever Happened to Dr Hill?
Coming to a streaming service soon.
Chronicles his sudden rise from struggling young ob-gyn to Doctor of the Divas.
by Anonymous | reply 200 | October 17, 2024 9:49 PM
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It’s obvious Dr. Hill was a young handsome gayling ready to take the world by storm. And no he wasn’t in the witch cult but he was a petty bitch. He was getting Rosemary back for dropping him in favor of the big name doctor. She should have been a loyal faghag; now she must bear Satan’s child.
by Anonymous | reply 201 | October 17, 2024 10:20 PM
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I'm just giving a party. I'm not going to swim the English channel.
by Anonymous | reply 202 | October 20, 2024 2:30 AM
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R202 And you have to be under 60 to get in. Rosemary was tired of them old nosey creeps.
by Anonymous | reply 203 | October 20, 2024 2:32 AM
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I was bitten by a mouse...
by Anonymous | reply 204 | October 20, 2024 2:52 AM
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R21 Polanski did a superior job directing The Pianist.
by Anonymous | reply 205 | October 20, 2024 2:59 AM
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[quote] Rosemary was tired of them old nosey creeps.
I love that split second when we see those two old guys sneaking around behind her back.
by Anonymous | reply 206 | October 20, 2024 3:14 AM
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I have a question, especially after watching the prequel Apartment 7A. Terry Gionoffrio jumps out the window at a party Roman and Minnie are giving. Even with a back door, how do Roman and Minnie change clothes instantly and exit the building without being seen by anyone?
by Anonymous | reply 207 | October 20, 2024 3:27 AM
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R207 Wait I thought Apartment 7A is a story about the lady Rosemary meets in the laundry room in the beginning. Because in that film Roman and Minnie aren’t home when she jumps. Remember, they are walking up the block coming from somehwere. I guess just minor creative license.
by Anonymous | reply 208 | October 20, 2024 3:30 AM
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I want vitamins in pills like everyone else.
by Anonymous | reply 209 | October 21, 2024 6:38 AM
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They're a bunch of not very bright bitches who ought to mind their own goddam business.
by Anonymous | reply 210 | October 22, 2024 4:46 AM
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This is my sister, Edna. And her husband.
by Anonymous | reply 211 | October 24, 2024 11:12 AM
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[quote]R110: "Satan is his father now!"
I always heard Roman's line as "Satan is his father, not Guy!"
by Anonymous | reply 212 | October 24, 2024 2:13 PM
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[quote]R149: my peasant surprise
Now, that's funny! :D
by Anonymous | reply 213 | October 24, 2024 2:18 PM
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I think I made a similar joke when Suri Cruise was born.
The year is One!
by Anonymous | reply 214 | October 24, 2024 4:38 PM
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[quote]I'm listening to the audiobook read by Kim Cattrall. She does an utterly fantastic job too.
I had the Mia Farrow-read audiobook; she was also fantastic. She would've made a great Minnie in the remake.
[quote]and the director was Roman Polanski, and one of the main characters was Roman Castevet. Lots of weird stuff going on with this great film. Didn't Sharon Tate name one of her dogs Dr.Saperstein?
She did. Another moment in the movie that always creeps me out when I see it: the scene where Minnie's loud voice invades Rosemary's dream. as the camera pans from a sleeping Guy over to Rosemary, there are a few paperback books on her bookcase headboard, and one of them literally looks like the 70s paperback edition of "Helter Skelter" -- black paperback with a white "window" on the cover with red writing on the spine. Creepy as hell.
by Anonymous | reply 215 | October 25, 2024 9:00 AM
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Yes R215 it looked exactly like the paperback. The bloody head of Terry too, was a creepy foreshadowing. It is one of the greatest films of the 60's. I remember watching Dark Shadows around the time it came out, "Pray for Rosemary's Baby" and "Dracula Has Risen from the Grave" were 2 ads that ran during the summer of 68 during DS.
by Anonymous | reply 216 | October 25, 2024 1:19 PM
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Grace. That's one of my favorite names.
by Anonymous | reply 217 | October 25, 2024 4:15 PM
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In their rituals they often use the fungus called Devil's Pepper.
by Anonymous | reply 218 | October 27, 2024 6:23 AM
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