[QUOTE]This captivating docuseries explores themes like childhood trauma, mental health and revenge, and it will also get viewers thinking about who the true victims are.
Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story Part II
by Anonymous | reply 141 | October 4, 2024 4:54 PM |
They were totally fucking
by Anonymous | reply 2 | September 30, 2024 3:14 PM |
R2 I think so too. I think they had an incestuous relationship. There were rumors, and usually rumors have some root in the truth.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | September 30, 2024 5:00 PM |
Where there’s still smoking dicks …
by Anonymous | reply 4 | September 30, 2024 5:17 PM |
Exactly. Where there's smoke there's fire.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | September 30, 2024 5:19 PM |
I watched the whole series and after episode 4 it gets so dark and depressing that I found it very hard to watch. All four Menendezes are/were such terrible people I could not feel sorry for any of them, even though their lives were pretty hellish. I think this is the biggest problem with the series--there's no one either to root for (not even a charismatic anti-hero figure like a Walter White or a Tony Soprano). So after the first two episodes, which are very attention getting (the 1st with the recounting of the murders, and then the 2nd with the boys spending like crazy afterwards to enjoy their fortune like pigs in shit, and wearing barely anything) there's really nowhere for the series to go after that.
I don't think this is going to get much awards attention, although episode 5 may get a nomination for writing, and Cooper Koch may get a nomination for that episode (but I doubt he will win--any halfway decent actor might get a nomination for that kind of episode because it's so unusual and allows someone so much time to shine). This isn't really being talked up outside of Datalounge, and here it really only is because of the actors' hot bodies and the gay sex angle. Nicholas Chavez is absolutely beautiful but he's only adequate in the part, and it doesn't allow him that much to do.
I did think Bardem and Sevigny were quite good, but the screenplays don't allow for Kitty and Jose to be very humanized or developed.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | September 30, 2024 6:37 PM |
I don't watch tv shows or movies depending on whether there's a character I can "root for." It's all about the story. I thought this series was very good. Yes, they were all horrible people. It made for compelling watching. Javier Bardem was excellent, nobody can play a stone cold bastard like he does.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | September 30, 2024 6:45 PM |
It's worth watching just to see Koch and Chavez stripped down. Oh yeah, and Javier Bardem.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | September 30, 2024 6:51 PM |
R7 I agree that it felt very disjointed. I personally think the first half of the season was the strongest. Episodes 1 to 3 are my favorites. 4 was decent and 5 was great due to Cooper Koch and his brilliant acting. Episodes 6-9 got a bit boring and repetetive imo. I didn't feel like there was a need for Dunne either. What I don't agree with though is why you would need to root for Kitty or Jose. Why humanize them? Why not show them for the monsters they allegedly were?
by Anonymous | reply 11 | September 30, 2024 7:13 PM |
You misunderstand me--I did not think they necessarily needed to be humanized for the sake of telling the story.
But I think their characters' flatness in the screenplays will make it unlikely either actor will be nominated for awards for these performances.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | September 30, 2024 7:29 PM |
It was said in the other thread, but kind of far down, that this is told from 10 view points, so that's why it seemed disjointed. I pesonally like it like that, and I enjoyed Dominic's version. I was over Dunne for a while but this made me remember why he was invested in murder and justice.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | September 30, 2024 7:35 PM |
I'm so confused over Erik's sexuality. He pings like crazy and he is into modeling and acting (or at least he was back then). And then there's this... he is a fan of reality shows and even Supernatural. Yet Lyle is the one who has had gay relationships in prison, not Erik? It's truly mind boggling.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | September 30, 2024 7:40 PM |
r14 Doesn't seem the least bit gay in that
by Anonymous | reply 15 | September 30, 2024 8:02 PM |
R11, why "humanize" their lying, murdering sons? Because you believe their lies? Same guys who lied and lied at every turn and said the mob killed their parents so they could go on a shopping spree?
by Anonymous | reply 16 | September 30, 2024 9:05 PM |
R14, no, Erik had gay relationships in prison, too
by Anonymous | reply 17 | September 30, 2024 9:06 PM |
I still can't tell them apart.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | September 30, 2024 11:23 PM |
r18 I have trouble, also - but Erik had wavier (real) hair
by Anonymous | reply 19 | October 1, 2024 12:28 AM |
In real life, Lyle would hide his hairline under his bangs to hide that he was wearing a wig.
Erik usually brushed his hair back so you could see his hairline.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | October 1, 2024 12:32 AM |
I'm glad it's not just my sister. I was getting seriously annoyed she kept asking me who each one was. I told her, "Eriks has the curly hair, Jfc!" And blue eyes.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | October 1, 2024 1:21 AM |
R17 How do you know?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | October 1, 2024 1:33 AM |
How could Murphy have passed up the opportunity to have Chavez in a prison fuck scene?
by Anonymous | reply 23 | October 1, 2024 1:59 AM |
I knew Vicki Lawrence was in it, but MAGA, bitch juror was nearly stroking out before I realized it was her. Too, bad her part was so short. She really did sound off like Thelma Harper.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | October 1, 2024 2:19 AM |
WTF about her being "MAGA?" This took place thirty years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | October 1, 2024 2:34 AM |
I don’t think they are sociopaths. I think there was abuse. I don’t think they killed for money. I think they stayed for money. I do think the brothers were sexual with each other. I think both are likely bi.
I enjoyed the series for what it was. It was very entertaining. I do wish more of these types of series tried to get as much accurate as possible without making stuff up.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | October 1, 2024 2:56 AM |
You don't think they're sociopaths?! Listen to the Dr. Oziel tapes.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | October 1, 2024 3:05 AM |
R27 Very damaged, but not sociopaths.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | October 1, 2024 4:11 AM |
If/when they come out I hope they're able to talk about everything. I doubt they'll talk about their sexuality though, since they are both married to women I highly doubt they will admit to being bi, which is a shame. Some fans claim Lyle is living life as an openly bi man in prison, but I have no idea if that is true or not. Either way he's married to a woman, so....
by Anonymous | reply 29 | October 1, 2024 4:43 AM |
Didn't recognize Vicki Lawrence at first. She was good, though!
This is the Dominick Dunne's Power, Privilege, and Justice episode about the brothers
by Anonymous | reply 30 | October 1, 2024 5:07 AM |
Thank you for the link r30. I've never seen that episode.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | October 1, 2024 5:10 AM |
Chavez Is probably uncut.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | October 1, 2024 5:54 AM |
Can you imagine how much "fan" mail they're getting now? I think it was the Barbara Walters interview from mid 90s that said something like they still got 1000s of letters back then. What a strange world.
I do agree with r28. I don't think they're sociopaths. I think they snapped for a variety of reasons.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | October 1, 2024 9:59 AM |
They, and the actors, are hot. The brothers are still sexy. They, like a lot of inmates, are absolutely hooking up with males. Married to women in case they ever get out.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | October 1, 2024 10:49 AM |
Erik is definitely bisexual. He had a relationship with his friend when he was a teen and then there's this, it's a quote from a book about the Menendez brothers. Just read it. He wrote poems to boys and girls he liked. I have no idea why he lied on the stand? Well, I guess he didn't lie when they asked if he's gay because he's not, he's bi. And it is possible he's had relationships in prison, we don't know everything. Heck, maybe he's a straight leaning bi, they exist.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | October 1, 2024 12:09 PM |
Happy I got proof my gaydar is not totally faulty. Lyle and Erik are most likely both bi.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | October 1, 2024 12:11 PM |
R34 Exactly. It's funny that LSA call them both ugly. They said they would be getting a lighter sentence if they were hotter. I was like huh?! They were attractive then and they're attractive now, even 30 years later. Erik is very popular on tiktok among gen Z.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | October 1, 2024 12:21 PM |
Someone on Part 1 mentioned the book "The Menendez Murders" by Robert Rand. I always thought the boys made up the abuse allegations, until I read this book which, in graphic detail, depicts Jose drugging and raping a member of Menudo at the family home in Princeton. "Menendez & Menudo: Boys Betrayed" is on Peacock but you can find excerpts and trailers on Youtube.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | October 1, 2024 1:08 PM |
That doesn’t mean he raped his own children, R38.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | October 1, 2024 1:57 PM |
Robert Rand is a joke who is totally biased and the Menudo guy is full of it, too
Read Blood Brothers by Ron Soble and John Johnson instead
by Anonymous | reply 40 | October 1, 2024 3:44 PM |
R38 Literally watched this doc yesterday. It was well made. I believe he abused that Menudo member. I also believe he abused his own sons. The showers with them and their dad, people not being allowed to walk down the hall when he was in their bedrooms etc. It all adds up.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | October 1, 2024 3:45 PM |
Vickie Lawrence's scene reminded me of Julia Sugarbaker's jury duty screed.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | October 1, 2024 3:49 PM |
[QUOTE] Literally watched this doc yesterday. It was well made. I believe he abused that Menudo member. I also believe he abused his own sons. The showers with them and their dad, people not being allowed to walk down the hall when he was in their bedrooms etc. It all adds up.
Why didn’t the boys tell their therapist? They were seeing him for years and never mentioned it?
by Anonymous | reply 43 | October 1, 2024 4:05 PM |
R41 You “literally watched it, huh?
by Anonymous | reply 44 | October 1, 2024 4:30 PM |
R43 Because they were afraid, probably. Oziel was close with their dad. That's what I've read anyway. And lets play devil's advocate here. Lets say they were never abused by their parents. Lets say they killed their parents for greed, because they wanted the inheritance, it's been more than 30 years. Are they a danger to society if they are let out? I don't believe they are.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | October 1, 2024 4:32 PM |
[quote] Are they a danger to society if they are let out? I don't believe they are.
R45 You're entitled to believe that, but I'm perfectly fine with them both spending the rest of their lives behind prison walls without the possibility of parole. I'm inclined to believe there was abuse in that house -- verbal, emotional, physical/hitting, and [ital]perhaps[/ital] sexual. There were the two relatives, an aunt and cousin (?), who testified that the brothers had confided in them about sexual abuse years before the murders. However, the evidence much more likely points to money as being their motive. There was evidence that Jose had told them they were being disinherited, due to the fallout over the Calabasas burglaries and Lyle's Princeton plagiarism suspension. So, they needed to act before Jose and Kitty could execute new wills. That's why both parents needed to go -- if they just killed Jose, Kitty would be the surviving spouse for the marital estate. After the murders, there was evidence the brothers tried to have the parents' computer wiped, as they feared it might have drafts of new wills. Same with the safe weirdness, that it might contain updated wills. And let's not forget the brothers' prolific spending, which began literally days after the murders.
All that said, even if abuse [ital]was[/ital] the motive, the remedy for that is not slaughtering your alleged abusers with multiple shotgun blasts throughout their bodies as they snooze on the sofa.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | October 1, 2024 6:20 PM |
So we’re supposed to feel sorry for two young gay men who get fucked by Javier Bardem?
I don’t get it.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | October 1, 2024 6:56 PM |
Thank you R46. I couldn't have put it better. If their dad had been produce manager at Von's, I don't think they would have been as compelled to kill him, and definitely not Kitty. The bottom line is they were greedy fucks who killed for money and I wouldn't feel safe as Mrs. Menendez if they got out and I had a life insurance policy. Their star-fucker-iness is also not unnoticed. They hate the show but want to meet the actors, they're besties with Rosie O (they're liars and will get cancer, though) and I sure don't hear about all the abuse victims they counsel in the pen. They can end their lives there. I know Erik's idiot wife spends most of her time running errands for him, sending him canteen stuff, doing whatever he wants. They live comfortably, which is more than most prisoners, so they can stay there.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | October 1, 2024 6:58 PM |
Maybe Tori Spelling should have gunned down Aaron and Candy...
by Anonymous | reply 49 | October 1, 2024 7:02 PM |
[QUOTE] Lets say they killed their parents for greed, because they wanted the inheritance, it's been more than 30 years. Are they a danger to society if they are let out?
🤣🤣🤣 Yes, they are a danger to society. What the fuck. If you can shotgun your parents to death in cold blood, including coming back for kill shots when you saw they were still breathing, then you can murder anybody over anything. They should’ve been executed! Their sycophants should be grateful they’re still alive.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | October 1, 2024 7:09 PM |
[quote]Chavez Is probably uncut.
He's American so he's probably cut.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | October 1, 2024 8:48 PM |
r44 is the troll who gets triggered whenever somebody uses the word "literally." It's 2024 babe, it's a part of modern speech. Get the fuck over it.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | October 1, 2024 8:50 PM |
I always fantasized about gunning down my horrid, abusive stepfather. I didn't have the guts.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | October 1, 2024 8:51 PM |
Yes, and if I did everything I’ve ever fantasized about, the state surely would’ve executed me by now.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | October 1, 2024 9:08 PM |
I found this series really boring after maybe Episode 2. It was a struggle to get through it.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | October 1, 2024 9:11 PM |
R55 oh ok
by Anonymous | reply 56 | October 1, 2024 9:13 PM |
I do think they were abused but at the same time they were two grown men who could've moved out of the house and lived their own lives independent of their parents.
As horrible as it is, untold numbers of people experienced horrific abuse growing up but they got away and managed to survive on their own.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | October 1, 2024 9:13 PM |
They were abused, and also didn’t want to be disinherited.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | October 1, 2024 9:55 PM |
I really like it and I'm not done. I love Murphy and true crime, but I wasn't sure about this. I saw the one with my girl Courtney Love as their mom, and it was not good. I know how Murphy always starts strong and then devolves halfway through, but I actually watched 7 eps in one sitting. I love that they're showing it from so many points of view, and I didn't think I would love the Dunne parts, but I love those too. Did that bitch Abramson really make that crack about his daughter's murder giving him a career or something? The scene where he tells Leslie that either the abuse is real or that she coached a true psychopath into his testimony and that he didn't know which was scarier, was perfect.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | October 1, 2024 10:50 PM |
R59 gets it. I felt the same way about everything you mentioned.
The only thing you left out was all the Nicholas Chavez eye candy.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | October 1, 2024 10:56 PM |
Their stupid, histrionic yet fake, 911 call is so hilarious. If I were in prison with them, I would clown them about it every time I saw them.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | October 1, 2024 11:01 PM |
A little off topic, I watched the E True Hollywood story about Poltergeist last month. I didn't realize that Dominique Dunne had a friend over that she was running lines with when she was killed. This guy actually heard them outside fighting and Sweeney killing her and didn't immediately call the police. It's just mindboggling to me that he just froze and didn't do something. I'm not saying he should have gone and fought the guy, but he should have done something sooner. I would probably not show my face and talk about it if I were him.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | October 1, 2024 11:06 PM |
That guy was the actor David Packer, they were both filming the tv miniseries "V" (one of the greatest of all time, about an alien invasion) and he did nothing to help her.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | October 1, 2024 11:15 PM |
Yes R63! That's who it was, thanks. Yeah I just couldn't believe he just kind of sat there while this was all going on. Like Dunne said, it took five minutes for him to strangle her, and before that they were loudly fighting. Maybe he was just frozen.
And was Kitty a blowsy, drunken, incompetent, pill head or a master assassin, coldly plotting to murder her own sons? It can't be fucking both, boys. That's always been the problem, why Kitty too? And that's how you know it's all bullshit. It's like Jodi Arias claiming she feared Travis, yet driving 9 hours to his house. The boat killing scenario was fucking preposterous. They couldn't get those assholes to do anything, but they were able to get them out on a boat? Come on!
by Anonymous | reply 64 | October 1, 2024 11:32 PM |
^ Kitty told her shrink that she thought her sons were sociopaths and that she was scared of them.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | October 2, 2024 12:02 AM |
Stop dumping on David Packer.
If it’s true Kitty knew about the abuse, how the fuck could she not, they had every right to hate/fear her. They endured abuse in order to be rich. Their parents threatened that which sent them over the edge.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | October 2, 2024 12:04 AM |
They weren't scared of her, she was scared of them.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | October 2, 2024 12:05 AM |
R67 Says who? A made up scene from the series? She SHOULD’VE been scared of them if she knew they were being raped and did nothing about it. They had a lot of friends/teachers/coaches saying they were not sociopaths.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | October 2, 2024 12:08 AM |
R67, no, it's not from the series. Read the book Blood Brothers. Her shrink said this.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | October 2, 2024 12:13 AM |
Kitty should have been scared. If you're going to rip off someone's toupee, then be prepared to pay the price.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | October 2, 2024 12:15 AM |
r65 / r67 She also told her shrink that she was terrified of José, and that she always knew "something was off" in how he treated the boys even from a very early age.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | October 2, 2024 1:22 AM |
Sounds like Murdagh family. They’re all awful. No sympathetic characters.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | October 2, 2024 2:32 AM |
I could never keep the brothers straight. I thought Lyle was the lantern jawed short haired one and Eric the dark wig one. Then it was opposite. Now I’m back to which is which.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | October 2, 2024 2:36 AM |
Ryan Murphy is being cunty again with the "poor, pitiful us".
by Anonymous | reply 74 | October 2, 2024 4:48 AM |
[quote] I'm so confused over Erik's sexuality. He pings like crazy and he is into modeling and acting (or at least he was back then). And then there's this... he is a fan of reality shows and even Supernatural. Yet Lyle is the one who has had gay relationships in prison, not Erik? It's truly mind boggling.
If you put a 20-something man with a high sex drive into prison, he will find someone to fuck and cuddle. Lyle probably had a higher sex drive than Erik.
Also, these 2 were so young when they went into prison, they never had girlfriends or boyfriends. A 20-something would want to experience emotional closeness, as well.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | October 2, 2024 5:00 AM |
R75 Good point. There's proof that they're both bisexual, with the book about Erik writing poems to boys and girls that he liked and the article about Lyle having a prison lover. I wouldn't be surprised if they fucked each other either, and the rumors were right.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | October 2, 2024 5:10 AM |
There were no “rumors” about them fucking each other. Ryan Murphy completely made that up.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | October 2, 2024 5:17 AM |
R76, IMO, Lyle having a prison lover doesn't necessarily mean he is gay or even bisexual. I think that people "make do" with their situations, especially young & horny men.
Erik, IMO, seems gay, not even bisexual. His wife is probably a very kind woman who offers him tons of emotional support and puts money in his commissary account.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | October 2, 2024 5:20 AM |
R77 Wrong. There were rumors. It wasn't just something Ryan Murphy made up.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | October 2, 2024 5:25 AM |
R78 True. Lyle never seemed gay or even bi to me, he never pinged. Erik did though. My gaydar is hardly ever wrong. The book apparently did say that he was into boys and girls as a teenager and he denied being gay when on the stands, so unless he lied I think he's most likely bisexual. On the other hand you have people saying Lyle is the one who is living openly as a bi man in prison. Who knows what's true. Will be interesting to see what happens if/when they finally do get out.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | October 2, 2024 5:30 AM |
What episode had the frontal nude scene of Eric?
by Anonymous | reply 81 | October 2, 2024 6:02 AM |
I'm on the episode where Lyle admits he poured cinnamon powder down his throat to make the semen taste better.
Does this show get less sordid??
by Anonymous | reply 82 | October 2, 2024 6:09 AM |
^ The episode where Erik and Lyle visit an orphanage at Christmas time and sing Jingle Bells during the talent show, Rose.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | October 2, 2024 6:10 AM |
And why would cinnamon powder make cum taste better?!
by Anonymous | reply 84 | October 2, 2024 6:12 AM |
R70 All jokes aside, I really think that wig ripping debacle is what sealed her fate. A narcissist like Lyle being humiliated like that would make him seethe.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | October 2, 2024 8:45 AM |
Carol at R82. I know you probably won't let the kids watch it, but the sordidness has a reason. Before I decided to watch this, I've been keeping up with the threads. A lot of them mentioned incest, prison sex, showers, etc and I was just rolling my eyes, because of course Murphy would be over the top on this with all kinds of tawdry scenes. But, the scenes aren't gratuitous, at least I didn't think so, and no one was more surprised than me about that. Because it's being told from all these different viewpoints, it obviously is going to look different for each one. It was, in fact, understated for a Ryan Murphy show. I hope it gets an award.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | October 2, 2024 8:49 AM |
Erik has found God? No wonder he denies being gay/bi.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | October 2, 2024 8:51 AM |
Erik is gayer than a mustache full of cum.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | October 2, 2024 9:06 AM |
[quote]Erik has found God?
Probably found him beneath his mother's dead body.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | October 2, 2024 10:26 AM |
Erik's fucking wife is a dumb bitch too. The fact she's been bringing her kid to visit a prison for most of her life is sad. I was thinking her first husband/kid's dad, must be livid. But then I remembered that he committed suicide, so I guess the girl is just doomed. If you're afraid of men but want a husband, get one who is imprisoned for life. If you don't want to engage in icky prison phone/letter sex, get one that's gay.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | October 2, 2024 2:47 PM |
According to Rosie, Lyle gets conjugal visits with his wife. I wonder if Erik gets the same with his wife?
Do prisons have a room with a bed where inmates have sex? I feel sorry for the person who has to clean up when they're finished.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | October 2, 2024 3:28 PM |
Yes they have rooms. I actually know the guy who cleans after a conjugal with Erik and his wife. He says they’re his favorites because the room is always spotless.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | October 2, 2024 3:59 PM |
Bullshit, R92.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | October 2, 2024 4:05 PM |
R93 You missed the joke.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | October 2, 2024 4:21 PM |
Point me to the joke, R94.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | October 2, 2024 4:52 PM |
It was a joke, Rose.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | October 2, 2024 5:06 PM |
R91 They actually have a little trailer. I watch a lot of those prison wife shows. There's a trailer with a kitchen, bedroom, bath, living room. The women get to bring groceries so they can cook for their man. They bring lingerie and whatever else, lube. The guards shake them down really well and then take them over to the trailer where their man awaits them. I think they have 48 hours or so. Your tax dollars at work. Fucking paying some dumb bitch to play house with her psycho boyfriend who is doubtlessly writing to 30 other chicks.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | October 2, 2024 8:08 PM |
R92 Ha! they play cards all weekend.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | October 2, 2024 8:08 PM |
I remember that a family member of a high-profile murder victim helped to put an end to conjugal visits. I thought it was Sharon Tate's family, but California has never outlawed conjugal visits.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | October 2, 2024 9:05 PM |
I think they're called "prison hags." These severely damaged women who fall in love with prisoners. It's so fucked up.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | October 2, 2024 10:56 PM |
Surely he has male lovers in prison.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | October 2, 2024 11:48 PM |
HE'S TAKEN A LOVER!!!
by Anonymous | reply 102 | October 2, 2024 11:59 PM |
Rosie should have been their defense lawyer. She does a far better job of defending them here than Leslie Abramson ever did. Rosie said that she told Barbara Walters that she was communicating with Lyle, and Walters warned her that he was manipulative and to stay away from him.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | October 3, 2024 12:06 AM |
^ Barbara had more sense than Rosie
by Anonymous | reply 104 | October 3, 2024 12:34 AM |
Rosie needs more friends IRL if she's reaching out to an imprisoned (life, no parole), claiming to be close friends.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | October 3, 2024 2:19 AM |
Rosie got bamboozled.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | October 3, 2024 2:33 AM |
NAC's body is insane.
That bulge in the speedo in episode 2 had to be cgi.
Those pecs!
by Anonymous | reply 107 | October 3, 2024 2:36 AM |
Everyone gets the joke except for poor r92/r95, bless her little heart.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | October 3, 2024 2:39 AM |
[quote] I think they're called "prison hags." These severely damaged women who fall in love with prisoners. It's so fucked up.
That's a cruel name to call Rosie.
Accurate, but cruel.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | October 3, 2024 2:40 AM |
Speaking of getting bamboozled by a prisoner:
New Netflix series: Jailbreak: Love on the Run.
Story of 6'9" prisoner Casey White and prison guard Vicky White (no relation).
We had a couple of threads on this when it happened. Vicky quit her job right before she was about to get a pension, sold her house, and went on the run with Casey. Vicky ended up dying by suicide. Casey is back in prison, where he belongs.
In some photos, Casey White looks like Jon Hamm, in more recent photos, he looks awful.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | October 3, 2024 3:01 AM |
My kitchen sink clogged today, but a friend came over an snaked out the drains for me. I bought him some great Texas BBQ for saving me a call to the plumber. Win win.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | October 3, 2024 4:11 AM |
R103 Could it be that Lyle is closer to the person we saw on screen than they (Erik and Lyle) would like to admit?
by Anonymous | reply 112 | October 3, 2024 4:36 AM |
I know Erik also denied being gay in that interview with Barbara Walters, which is interesting.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | October 3, 2024 4:37 AM |
I wonder if Chloe enjoyed to-ast while on set?
by Anonymous | reply 114 | October 3, 2024 4:40 AM |
[QUOTE] Speaking of getting bamboozled by a prisoner: New Netflix series: Jailbreak: Love on the Run.
Watched that right after Monsters. It was decent but not great.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | October 3, 2024 7:35 AM |
Both brothers were hot and you can tell they could throw a mean fuck. Cubans are known for big pinga’s.
The actors are also sexy as hell.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | October 3, 2024 10:39 AM |
The brothers must be very charismatic in real life, because they have enchanted Rosie, Cooper and Kim Kardashian. I fear that none of us would be safe from their charms if we met them.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | October 3, 2024 2:50 PM |
[quote] I fear that none of us would be safe from their charms if we met them.
DLers would have no chance, if meeting Erik. DLers would be withdrawing money from their accounts and putting money into his commissary.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | October 3, 2024 4:05 PM |
I can think of better places to put it.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | October 3, 2024 4:06 PM |
Erik was hot not Lyle
by Anonymous | reply 121 | October 3, 2024 4:07 PM |
r116, it looks like he's smiling as he contemplates destroying Superman and bringing the entire city of Metropolis to its knees.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | October 3, 2024 9:14 PM |
Can't wait for this fucking moron to have his ass handed to him next month! (recent polling shows his opponent Nathan Hochman up by 24 points)
by Anonymous | reply 123 | October 3, 2024 10:40 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 124 | October 3, 2024 11:47 PM |
What evidence did the defense present regarding the prolonged sexual abuse? The brothers' testimony, some family statements, anything else? Did they ever provide physical proof? Journal entries? Medical files from their childhood? Was it just the brothers' words?
by Anonymous | reply 125 | October 4, 2024 12:02 AM |
New hearing is set. Great news! Hope they are free soon.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | October 4, 2024 12:51 AM |
I'm still curious as to what kind of defense they're going to mount to justify murdering their mother.
Before someone makes yet another hysterical and sentimental insistence that "she must have known what was going on," and that "it is a mother's sacred duty to protect her children from being sexually abused by her husband" : there is nothing in the law that says that that's in any way, shape, or form a justifiable reason for pre-meditated murder. They're not going to get off unless they can prove she was an actual physical danger to them somehow. Saying she was buying a gun the week before is also not going to cut it--tons of women in california are always buying guns.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | October 4, 2024 1:14 AM |
Watch them get out and kill again
by Anonymous | reply 128 | October 4, 2024 1:28 AM |
Remember the King brothers (Alex and Derek), who killed their father when they were like 12 years old (close in age). A 40-year old man also got convicted. The brothers were incarcerated and released when around 19/20 years old. Older guy is still in prison.
Anyway, Alex died this year of a drug overdose. He was 35.
Alex claimed that the 40-year old guy Ricky Chavis molested him, but Chavis was acquitted of that.
Brothers confessed, but later blamed Chavis for killing Dad.
The original jury convicted them but said that they weren't sure what happened. The brothers then entered a plea deal and served a few years, each.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | October 4, 2024 4:53 AM |
[QUOTE] New hearing is set. Great news! Hope they are free soon.
May they continue to rot in prison for the rest of their lives.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | October 4, 2024 4:57 AM |
R125 None, there was no evidence. Usually kids that are molested will have bed-wetting and anxiety and other symptoms. They had none. Also, I don't see that they were terrified of either of their parents. Kids who are terrified that their parents will murder them, don't generally do trouble making shit like breaking into houses.
R127 Exactly, there's no reason to kill her, or 14 million reasons to. If everyone was as afraid of Jose as claimed, then it would stand to reason that she was too. But of course they want to play it both ways; she was a useless alcoholic, pill head, blind to what was going on...but also, she was a cunning killer, about to assassinate the boys. She can't be both. That's always been the elephant in the room, why the fuck did you blow off your mom's kneecaps and face?
R129 Oh damn, I didn't know he died. He was a little scary to me, I know Tavis talked him into it, but he is not someone I would have adopted. He was the gay one who lived with foster parents, I think. The other turned out pretty hot and lives alone in the desert, or did. Sad. He must have a conscience, most people who would kill their parent/s would be pretty torn up about it and turn to drugs. Luckily, Lyle and Erik are psychoes and have no such problems.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | October 4, 2024 8:13 AM |
R131, who is Tavis?
by Anonymous | reply 132 | October 4, 2024 8:37 AM |
R132 Oh, sorry, I meant Chavis, Ricky Chavis, the guy who molested him.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | October 4, 2024 9:18 AM |
r131 Sympathizes with molesters, apparently
by Anonymous | reply 134 | October 4, 2024 2:49 PM |
You don’t deal with molesters by murdering them in cold blood, R134. Not unless you’re in fear for your life. But the only thing these boys were fearful of losing was their spot in daddy’s last will & testament.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | October 4, 2024 3:44 PM |
Kim Kardashian Calls for Menendez Brothers to Be Freed: ‘They Are Not Monsters’
Well, OK then, Don't forget this cunt's father helped Uncle O.J. get away with double murder.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | October 4, 2024 3:57 PM |
Kim K is not exactly the best judge of character.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | October 4, 2024 3:59 PM |
Isn’t Kim a practicing attorney now? Will the boys get her to represent them at the new hearing?
by Anonymous | reply 138 | October 4, 2024 4:01 PM |
This is interesting.
[Quote]Ryan Murphy says he’d be interested in extending ‘Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez’ story with more episodes: “I think what I would be interested in doing, if [the actors] would agree to do it, is maybe one or two episodes that continue the story”
by Anonymous | reply 139 | October 4, 2024 4:26 PM |
Does Nicholas Chavez want to come back for more? He probably figures he’s off to be the next great Hollywood actor and doesn’t need this Menendez stuff anymore.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | October 4, 2024 4:51 PM |
R140 I'm not even sure how it will work. Is he going to age them? Will that be realistic?
by Anonymous | reply 141 | October 4, 2024 4:54 PM |