If Tim Walz doesn't make some debate reference to what Trump wanted his supporters to do to Mike Pence, Vance's predecessor, the campaign will be guilty of electoral malpractice.
Vance will come across much saner than Trump, but will have an obvious evil aura which will turn off many viewers.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | September 27, 2024 11:07 PM |
Maybe we can wait until October 1 to start the thread ?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | September 27, 2024 11:25 PM |
Vance's strategy is to bully Walz to make him seem like a jovial bumpkin. Watch for him to talk over the allotted time and not lose his cool. He will be very aggressive on the key issued of the economy and immigration. His success depends on how much the moderators will put up with and if they will allow him to get away with blatant lies. Walz needs to go into coach mode.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | September 27, 2024 11:37 PM |
[quote] Maybe we can wait until October 1 to start the thread ?
Well, it IS the next big event on the election calendar ... in just four days.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | September 27, 2024 11:48 PM |
I would want to pin Vance down on the definition of "legal immigrant" while pointing out that the former First Lady (Vairst Letty) is herself a "legal immigrant."
And my follow-up would be to ask him where he thinks Haitians are from ("Haitia"?).
If Tim cannot ASK anything, he could turn the above into observations of JD.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | September 27, 2024 11:53 PM |
Since Trump is conflating asylum seekers with people coming from insane asylums, I would hope that Walz makes a special appeal to Jewish voters by educating the debate audience that, because the asylum law wasn't enacted until after WWII, it was the anti-immigrant sentiment of an earlier generation that barred all but a small minority of European Jews out of the US, condemning them to their deaths in the Holocaust.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | September 28, 2024 12:13 AM |
If Vance isn't grilled over persecuting the people he swore to protect, then the moderators should be fired. Springfield officials say, " Fuck you" to Vance.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | September 28, 2024 12:44 AM |
[quote]Well, it IS the next big event on the election calendar ... in just four days.
Hence, can we wait four days until it happens ?
by Anonymous | reply 8 | September 28, 2024 12:46 AM |
We cannot, r8.
We simply must obsess over possible questions, outcomes, what the moderators will/won’t put up with, what each will wear and all possible outcomes.
Leave us be! We are enjoying ourselves.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | September 28, 2024 4:09 AM |
Too soon to declare yourself “official.”
You seem desperate.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | September 28, 2024 4:31 AM |
Count on Tim Walz to make a lot of funny, confused faces in response to everything Vance says.
When Vance deflects and does his double talk, Walz will say, “And that’s exactly what I just said!” He’ll make Vance seem very slippery.
Hopefully he’ll use the phrase “Peter Thiel’s butt boy”.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | September 28, 2024 7:46 AM |
You bring up a critical point, r11. Vance and Republicans are utterly devoid of humor because they're miserable, sour pills. And Walz seems to be able to extract the irony, and, yes, irrational weirdness and humor from situations to a great degree. I don't know Buttigieg enough to know if he has that edge. . Despite his being a self-professed "bad debater," I think he can use facts to steer the conversation.
And, maybe, the "bad debater" is his Midwestern modesty, with his Nebraska and Minnesota roots... Leading the chump into a trap. I'm so very sure he and Pete have anticipated and probably laid traps for Vance every step of the way.
Why? Because Harris/Walz are heads above in rationality, period.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | September 28, 2024 8:06 AM |
[quote]Hopefully he’ll use the phrase “Peter Thiel’s butt boy”.
With numerous visual aids.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | September 28, 2024 8:16 AM |
Walz will definitely win the " I'd like to have a beer with that guy" voters.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | September 28, 2024 10:04 AM |
Why don't they just pick one network for the debates and stick with it? Like the Olympics. Or would that be "unfair" by some deranged standard? All debates should be hosted by PBS or C-Span, not corporate networks.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | September 28, 2024 10:53 AM |
Who does MAGA have who can emulate the affable, smart, gracious Tim Walz?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | September 28, 2024 1:15 PM |
Ready and able, r17. I think I might have once coached a hockey team. Or blew them, I'm fuzzy on the details.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | September 28, 2024 1:30 PM |
I’ve never seen a genuine smile from Vance. Or any MAGA for that matter.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | September 28, 2024 1:30 PM |
In the dystopian world they've imagined, R19, how could they?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | September 28, 2024 1:46 PM |
I'll be there!
by Anonymous | reply 21 | September 28, 2024 1:51 PM |
R16, the show is on EVERY channel regardless of which network hosts the debate. So, who cares?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | September 29, 2024 10:07 PM |
Dumbass, I care because each network seems to pick and choose its own arbitrary set of debate "rules." Air them all on one network OR have the same set of Rules Of Order apply to every debate regardless of who is hosting.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | September 29, 2024 10:49 PM |
^ that’s just plain dumb.
Each date this cycle has been shown on all networks at the same time. So what if the Prez. vs VP debates have different formats?…never in the history of these debates has each quadrennial series followed an identical format. Nothing new here….
by Anonymous | reply 24 | September 29, 2024 11:07 PM |
Good Morning DL! 🌅 Here's some good news to wake up to!
Looks like the debate will be Pete vs. Arena, too.
Ah, hah, hah, hah! Is Habba a step above Tulsi because she has a law degree, even if it's from a third rate unknown law school? Misogynist Yale Law JD must be sneering inside. To be a fly on the wall in that room.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | September 30, 2024 7:59 AM |
R2, you don't ever wear white before Memorial Day, do you?
by Anonymous | reply 26 | September 30, 2024 12:04 PM |
No, darling R23. Those rules are agreed upon by the campaigns. Hope you’ll get your sleep tonight.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | September 30, 2024 12:57 PM |
Just a reminder, Alina Habba is on Vance's debate prep team.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | October 1, 2024 9:02 PM |
R26 Nor after Labor Day. Thank you for asking.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | October 1, 2024 10:18 PM |
It's going to be a long night. Ugh.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | October 1, 2024 10:31 PM |
Go Tim Walz, get under JD's skin and give it to him from the start.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | October 1, 2024 10:41 PM |
[quote] Just a reminder, Alina Habba is on Vance's debate prep team.
One stable genius coaching another.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | October 1, 2024 10:42 PM |
Vance will control the debate with his constant lies that Walz will have to respond to. He will seem calm and presidential, because the moderators will let him get away with anything. Big night for the liar. Walz has to prove that he is more than a happy warrior; he has to be tough as nails.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | October 1, 2024 10:55 PM |
One good thing about it is no one really watches the VP debates R34.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | October 1, 2024 10:56 PM |
He followed the same pattern as Kamala. No interviews, avoid the media, lay low but do intensive debate prep. The plan will be a great debate and then unleash him to the media for interviews and podcasts for the last few weeks.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | October 1, 2024 11:05 PM |
He needs to announce a website that is doing live fact checking
by Anonymous | reply 37 | October 1, 2024 11:16 PM |
One of the Pod Save America guys watched Walz's past debates & came away less than enthused with his performances. So I think I'll pass on watching this live.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | October 1, 2024 11:18 PM |
I can’t watch-I just know Vance will make Walz look bad-Not something I want.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | October 1, 2024 11:23 PM |
Actually, not R34. Giving JD Vance 2 minutes to talk or whatever will be like enabling his suicide. JD talks a lot of word salad. And when he’s not talking word salad, he looks like a fucking smug prick. Walz has probably been coached to enhance the effect of that to make Vance seem even more weird and full of shit.
Plus, in a debate you get time to respond or, in Vance’s case, dig yourself deeper into a hole. We will see him get increasingly frustrated because he doesn’t even have the support of his own campaign. Expect the worst.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | October 1, 2024 11:26 PM |
Well, Kamala's earlier debates left me less than enthused. And, yet, when it really counted, mother ate it and left no crumbs. I believe in Walz.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | October 1, 2024 11:28 PM |
Walz should show up with a box of donuts
by Anonymous | reply 42 | October 1, 2024 11:28 PM |
R35 But somehow even more memorable than the Presidential debates.
Who doesn't remember:
1988's Bentsen / Quayle debate ('You're no Jack Kennedy')
2008's Biden / Palin ('May I call you Joe ?')
2020's Harris / Pence (who can forget 'the fly' ?)
by Anonymous | reply 43 | October 1, 2024 11:45 PM |
POD Save America is worried about Walz saying he’s a poor debater and Democrats are overly optimistic. They’re also not going to be fact checked. Vance already said that they will lie to win.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | October 1, 2024 11:52 PM |
The campaign has leaked that Vance will call Walz “Traitor Tim”
I don’t know who the undecided are at this point and I’ll never understand how this is a 48/48 race. But surely this smug little Yale DEI (all but the trashiest MAGAs know that elite colleges seek out and nurture conservative white men from poor backgrounds to assuage their guilt) with a punchable face is going going to be loathed by the majority for disparaging another man’s military record.
It may not change the polls but it will also do him no favors. If they’ve leaked that then we can expect him to go the “cats and dogs” route. Lots of lies and misinformation. No attempt to appeal to suburban women.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | October 1, 2024 11:53 PM |
Vance is a former member of The Tea Party, named changed to The Freedom Caucas. Other members of that tribe include Jim Jordan, Marjorie Taylor Green and Ted Cruz. Horrible people.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | October 1, 2024 11:59 PM |
Yeah. I'm actually scared for Tim
by Anonymous | reply 47 | October 2, 2024 12:01 AM |
[quote] Vance is a former
Yes! He’s been all over the map. The current version is no more authentic than the third last version of him.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | October 2, 2024 12:04 AM |
ALPHA STRAIGHT Tim is going to manhandle this MARY effortlessly don't worry
by Anonymous | reply 49 | October 2, 2024 12:06 AM |
Tim should bring a plate of donuts, and make JD pick out "whatever makes sense."
by Anonymous | reply 50 | October 2, 2024 12:12 AM |
Watch the debate Vance/Ryan. Vance actually did very well.
BUT Walz has sooo much ammo here. He has a lot to work with.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | October 2, 2024 12:18 AM |
Who’s ready to see Jaydine pull out his raccoon eyes?
by Anonymous | reply 53 | October 2, 2024 12:26 AM |
[quote]Walz should show up with a box of donuts
Or a couch with a big spooge stain on it.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | October 2, 2024 12:27 AM |
These college students on MSNBC are certainly interesting. A Democratic trans, an undecided who wants to hear what Harris says about Palestine, two hot Republicans, and the weird student government girls who are going to pass out red and green flags for people to wave when they agree/disagree.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | October 2, 2024 12:34 AM |
sounds like a lot of dingbats r55, but do they realize that Harris isn't actually in the debate tonight?
by Anonymous | reply 56 | October 2, 2024 12:36 AM |
I just want it to be over.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | October 2, 2024 12:36 AM |
Remember Lloyd Bentsen absolutely destroyed Dan Quayle in their debate but Bush/Quayle still won the election.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | October 2, 2024 12:38 AM |
Watching the pre-debate show on MSNBC. Cutie Jacob S. is reporting from some Michigan college.... College Republicans? Check... nice surprise seeing a POC among their numbers. College Socialists? Check... "we want to hear concrete details from Kamala, yadayadayada" undoubtedly so they can move the goal posts on her especially when it comes to Palestine.
And what about the College Democrats? Sigh. "Hi, my name is Rose, President of the College Democrats" said in a very deep, obviously masculine voice spoken by someone in eyeshadow, Farrah Fawcett locks, sporting a Joker-esque lipline and NO TITS!
by Anonymous | reply 59 | October 2, 2024 12:38 AM |
the CBS "typical voter" panel is dismal as these things always are, but I like the lady who forgot her lines. It's economy and safety, dammit, you have to pretend to be terrified of the crime rate or it just won't work!
by Anonymous | reply 60 | October 2, 2024 12:40 AM |
[quote] College Republicans? Check... nice surprise seeing a POC among their numbers.
Except the College Republican spokesman said his main issue is wanting to know what each side is going to do to help pay for college.
JD Vance would tell him to find a rich billionaire.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | October 2, 2024 12:41 AM |
Marry me r59
by Anonymous | reply 62 | October 2, 2024 12:42 AM |
Yeah, R61... I was typing quickly and forgot to include that point. I chuckled when I heard that. Now that I think about it a tic, I can only imagine he was probably at THAT table because he was afraid of having to deal with the mess at the Democrat table.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | October 2, 2024 12:47 AM |
Can't watch, Vance will be completely obnoxious.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | October 2, 2024 12:47 AM |
[quote]And what about the College Democrats? Sigh. "Hi, my name is Rose, President of the College Democrats" said in a very deep, obviously masculine voice spoken by someone in eyeshadow, Farrah Fawcett locks, sporting a Joker-esque lipline and NO TITS!
I couldn't stop laughing at him / her / them. The only thing missing was an apron and oven mitts on this wack job. Couldn't 'they' do cosplay off-screen ?
And Omar the hot 'republican' wants to know what each party is going to do for HIS tuition ? Seriously ? Vote for Trump / Vance and see what Project 2025 will do for your tuition you dumb (but hot) ass.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | October 2, 2024 12:55 AM |
Triumph the Insult Comic Dog is in the pin room! I wonder what show he will be on? Seth Meyers, maybe?
by Anonymous | reply 66 | October 2, 2024 1:00 AM |
I'm scared. About to crap my pants. I know, MARY!
by Anonymous | reply 67 | October 2, 2024 1:00 AM |
Oh gods, I am nervous. Go Walz! Vance is going to be a snake in the grass.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | October 2, 2024 1:01 AM |
Just remember r67, JD will always be JD. There is only so much even a victory could do for him, cause he'll wake up JD tomorrow, and nothing can change that.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | October 2, 2024 1:01 AM |
Pics please, r67!
by Anonymous | reply 70 | October 2, 2024 1:02 AM |
This set is really odd and awkward
by Anonymous | reply 71 | October 2, 2024 1:02 AM |
OMAR!!! THAT WAS HIS NAME! I couldn't remember it because I wasn't paying attention until he started to complain about college tuition.
It's on!
"CBS RESERVES the right to mute microphones...." I guess they are trying to change tack and be somewhat responsible?
by Anonymous | reply 72 | October 2, 2024 1:03 AM |
It already seems like an SNL skit.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | October 2, 2024 1:03 AM |
Yeah, not tuning in for this one. There's simply not enough at stake in a VP debate to qualify putting myself through 60+ minutes of face-queefing from that sniveling creep.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | October 2, 2024 1:03 AM |
Yes! R73
by Anonymous | reply 75 | October 2, 2024 1:03 AM |
Tim is off to a good start.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | October 2, 2024 1:04 AM |
I think I already hate Margaret Whatshername... she's giving Emma Roberts realness and I don't think she's taking this seriously
by Anonymous | reply 77 | October 2, 2024 1:04 AM |
Get it together man. Walz is nevrous.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | October 2, 2024 1:04 AM |
JD will always be ashamed of himself. He’s a liar, a fake and a phony.
He’s changed his name THREE TIME, FFS!
by Anonymous | reply 79 | October 2, 2024 1:04 AM |
Don’t worry, R78. He got it together.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | October 2, 2024 1:05 AM |
[quote] There is only so much even a victory could do for him, cause he'll wake up JD tomorrow, and nothing can change that.
Is he waking up on a LA-Z-Boy? Or something more Ohio-traditional like a shaker?
by Anonymous | reply 81 | October 2, 2024 1:05 AM |
Is it over yet?
by Anonymous | reply 82 | October 2, 2024 1:05 AM |
Walz seems terrified.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | October 2, 2024 1:05 AM |
Watch this anywhere but on CBS; fuck their no fact checking and unmuted mics.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | October 2, 2024 1:05 AM |
So was Kamala at the start of her debate, R78.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | October 2, 2024 1:05 AM |
Kamala started out on a nervous note too. Tim will find his rhythm.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | October 2, 2024 1:05 AM |
JD looks smarmy.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | October 2, 2024 1:06 AM |
Going to be a long night
by Anonymous | reply 88 | October 2, 2024 1:06 AM |
He's already trying to shove in all of his talking points by calling Trump almost 80. Should they bomb Iran? Trump is old!
by Anonymous | reply 89 | October 2, 2024 1:06 AM |
Oooh the makeup artist does not like JD- he's too pale and chalky. Get him Tim!
by Anonymous | reply 90 | October 2, 2024 1:06 AM |
Yup, "Hello, he smarmed."
by Anonymous | reply 91 | October 2, 2024 1:06 AM |
Jimmy IS fucking smarmy
by Anonymous | reply 92 | October 2, 2024 1:06 AM |
Vance: I really don't want to answer the question
by Anonymous | reply 93 | October 2, 2024 1:06 AM |
Vance: "I can't answer hard questions, so here's my bio!"
by Anonymous | reply 94 | October 2, 2024 1:07 AM |
Walz looks a little green around the gills.
Hope he pulls this off.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | October 2, 2024 1:07 AM |
Why is he allowed to give a political ad when they asked him a direct question?
by Anonymous | reply 96 | October 2, 2024 1:07 AM |
Is Shady really ret-conning all the way back to MF'ing Hillbilly Elegy?!
I hope Tim can clear things up and show people just how far Shady has fallen from there.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | October 2, 2024 1:07 AM |
Walz needs to avoid the Caroline Kennedy “Ah…, ah…” inter-words communications.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | October 2, 2024 1:07 AM |
Answer the question, JD!
by Anonymous | reply 99 | October 2, 2024 1:07 AM |
Sorry but both of these guys look like amateurs up there.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | October 2, 2024 1:07 AM |
When JD starts in on Walz's alleged fluffed-up military experience, Tim needs to hammer Project 2025 over and over and over.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | October 2, 2024 1:07 AM |
We needed Peace Through Whoring up to Putin
by Anonymous | reply 102 | October 2, 2024 1:07 AM |
Mama Vance is a welfare queen!
by Anonymous | reply 103 | October 2, 2024 1:08 AM |
7 minutes in and it’s already a disaster.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | October 2, 2024 1:08 AM |
Walz stumbles out of the gate... and I want them to WIN
by Anonymous | reply 105 | October 2, 2024 1:08 AM |
Is this an infomercial from smartass Vance??
by Anonymous | reply 106 | October 2, 2024 1:08 AM |
Eat a dick Vance. Dump was laughed at at the UN. No one was terrified of him.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | October 2, 2024 1:08 AM |
Walz pronounces nuclear like GWB.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | October 2, 2024 1:08 AM |
Whenever JD mentions Trump … it’s a buzzkill.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | October 2, 2024 1:08 AM |
Tim is bringing it now!
by Anonymous | reply 110 | October 2, 2024 1:08 AM |
Walz has gained his footing in the rebuttal.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | October 2, 2024 1:09 AM |
both of them are blundering
by Anonymous | reply 112 | October 2, 2024 1:09 AM |
Don't eyeball me, Vance. I ain't your loveseat!
by Anonymous | reply 113 | October 2, 2024 1:09 AM |
C'mon, JD. Make your Mamaw proud!
by Anonymous | reply 114 | October 2, 2024 1:09 AM |
Okay, Walz is getting his footing...keep it going
by Anonymous | reply 115 | October 2, 2024 1:09 AM |
That was a huge word salad from Vance. So are they going to talk about Donald all night?
by Anonymous | reply 116 | October 2, 2024 1:09 AM |
Good "standard diplomacy" (i.e. twitter) line Tim.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | October 2, 2024 1:09 AM |
Nobody gives a shit about that war. Move on.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | October 2, 2024 1:09 AM |
I must be the only one here but I find Vance hot as hell.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | October 2, 2024 1:09 AM |
Seems to have found his footing.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | October 2, 2024 1:09 AM |
I think he pronounced nuclear correctly the second time.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | October 2, 2024 1:10 AM |
[quote]Oooh the makeup artist does not like JD- he's too pale and chalky.
I would totally do that given that chance.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | October 2, 2024 1:10 AM |
“Eye-ran” - from both of them.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | October 2, 2024 1:10 AM |
Prance is a low class dreck wearing eyeliner AND mascara. It doesn’t help, I’m not taking him seriously.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | October 2, 2024 1:10 AM |
JD has Dahmer vibes
by Anonymous | reply 125 | October 2, 2024 1:10 AM |
Margaret Whatshername reminds me of Chloe Fineman on SNL. I can't take her seriously. They had no one better to moderate this ? For fuck's sake, Julie Chen Moonves could do a better job.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | October 2, 2024 1:10 AM |
r119 .... um.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | October 2, 2024 1:10 AM |
I can't watch this... I guess I'll catch up with you guys tomorrow.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | October 2, 2024 1:10 AM |
And we can’t forget that other January date back in DC, either!
by Anonymous | reply 129 | October 2, 2024 1:11 AM |
Answer the fucking question, asshole!
Also, Kamala Harris has no administration, dummy -- she's the VICE president!
by Anonymous | reply 130 | October 2, 2024 1:11 AM |
Tim has to do something about his Resting Bottom Face. He looks like that one guy in the corner of the dark room/Dick Dock that wants cock but isn't ready to come out and ask for it.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | October 2, 2024 1:11 AM |
Walz coming off as too focused on bashing Trump? I am hoping Vance really steps in it but so far he is not doing too badly
by Anonymous | reply 132 | October 2, 2024 1:11 AM |
I think one problem is the set is way tooo bright.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | October 2, 2024 1:11 AM |
R119, you have a warning from the Gay Lords about your card being revoked.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | October 2, 2024 1:12 AM |
Shapiro would have wiped the floor with him.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | October 2, 2024 1:12 AM |
"These are some of the communities I love"
Why's that JD? Because they're white? They vote for you? What about the communities you love but still make up stories about and create pain, violence and chaos for>
by Anonymous | reply 136 | October 2, 2024 1:12 AM |
R125, I saw a picture of Vance next to a picture of John Wayne Gacy and they could be brothers.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | October 2, 2024 1:12 AM |
I can't watch this douchebag any more, but I'll keep reading this thread. I just keep seeing a Nazi uniform when I look at Vance and think of the ideas he's espoused.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | October 2, 2024 1:13 AM |
“Our hearts…our prayers…go out to…”. Rinse and repeat. Is Lance giving a cover-it-all book report?
by Anonymous | reply 139 | October 2, 2024 1:13 AM |
JD keeps claiming that the Biden administration is Kamala’s as if she were the president.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | October 2, 2024 1:13 AM |
Unfortunately most Americans can relate to Vance’s bullshit life story than Harris and Walz. Trump knew what he was doing when he picked him.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | October 2, 2024 1:13 AM |
JD is a boring robot. This debate is not going to have any impact.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | October 2, 2024 1:14 AM |
i need xanax
by Anonymous | reply 143 | October 2, 2024 1:14 AM |
no, whatever good he might have done evaporated when America actually saw him r141.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | October 2, 2024 1:14 AM |
Putting aside content, Vance is talking with confidence. He's relaxed and coming off as polished.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | October 2, 2024 1:14 AM |
I can hear the low ratings on this one.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | October 2, 2024 1:15 AM |
Walz spent 7 days preparing for this.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | October 2, 2024 1:15 AM |
(Painfully) to his credit, JD is NOT espousing any of his problematic bullshit. And he's able to string along words in a way that seems reasonable. He needs to be called out on the difference between what he's SAYING and what he has SAID before. The icing on the cake (cak) would be then calling attention to what he purports to believe.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | October 2, 2024 1:15 AM |
R145 Tim is more dynamic and emotional even if he stumbles a little. JD comes across as a QVC salesman.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | October 2, 2024 1:15 AM |
[quote]Putting aside content, Vance is talking with confidence. He's relaxed and coming off as polished.
I was impressed by his climate change response. That's a tough one to have to answer, and I hadn't heard anyone respond with what he stated.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | October 2, 2024 1:16 AM |
JD Vance reminds me of a salesman I wouldn't buy anything from.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | October 2, 2024 1:16 AM |
Shady is not doing as bad as I hoped / wished he would. Not making much sense, but coming off powerful and calm.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | October 2, 2024 1:16 AM |
Vance isn't disagreeing that Trump said climate change is a hoax, which is what the question was
by Anonymous | reply 153 | October 2, 2024 1:17 AM |
I’m waiting for Vance to break out in a happy dance R149..
by Anonymous | reply 154 | October 2, 2024 1:17 AM |
Walz has to mention how Vance once called Dump "America's Hitler."
by Anonymous | reply 155 | October 2, 2024 1:17 AM |
[quote]Vance isn't disagreeing that Trump said climate change is a hoax, which is what the question was
Yes, but that's what politicians do when a reporter lobs a "gotcha" question at a candidate they don't like.
by Anonymous | reply 156 | October 2, 2024 1:18 AM |
JD is giving pure, undiluted asshole. He looks like a villain out of a National Lampoon movie.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | October 2, 2024 1:18 AM |
QVC spokespeople wear less makeup than Vance.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | October 2, 2024 1:19 AM |
The problem is the world was expecting Vance to tank and he is not tanking so he wins. Walz needs some hits and he is not landing any.
by Anonymous | reply 159 | October 2, 2024 1:19 AM |
I think Vance is smooth and sure footed. People don't know if he's right or not. He's not breathing fire.
That said, I keep thinking immigration will shatter the gentlemanly peace.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | October 2, 2024 1:19 AM |
r159 yup
by Anonymous | reply 161 | October 2, 2024 1:19 AM |
Vance prepared for this debate by taking questions from the media at his rallies. Harris and Walz campaign managers have tried to hide them from the media.
Harris should have brought in more of her own people. They are treating her like Biden.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | October 2, 2024 1:19 AM |
Piss him off so I can see his veins bulge. When he gets frustrated, he becomes angry.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | October 2, 2024 1:19 AM |
Vance refuses to directly answer a question. He doesn't seem that great of a debater to me.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | October 2, 2024 1:20 AM |
Are we gonna have to start a drinking game for every time Vance mentions his mother's opioid addiction?
by Anonymous | reply 165 | October 2, 2024 1:20 AM |
Mama Vance is a welfare queen AND a junkie!
by Anonymous | reply 166 | October 2, 2024 1:20 AM |
C'mon Margaret bring up immigration.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | October 2, 2024 1:20 AM |
Walz is looser but comes across rightly as his potential role as No. 2. Vance comes over like he’s running for No. 1 himself and he’s preparing Trump’s poisoning as he speaks and we listen. And he’s so—extra-Trashy, -White, and -Preprogrammed!
by Anonymous | reply 168 | October 2, 2024 1:20 AM |
Also, let's face it, the moderators are giving the tougher questions to Vance.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | October 2, 2024 1:21 AM |
Tim needs to bring up the border bill that Trump had the Rethugs squash so that he can run in the issue.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | October 2, 2024 1:21 AM |
Vance doesn't come up for air. It is just one giant run-on sentence.
by Anonymous | reply 171 | October 2, 2024 1:21 AM |
Kamala didn't sign any executive orders, JD.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | October 2, 2024 1:22 AM |
Tim won this question hands down.
by Anonymous | reply 173 | October 2, 2024 1:22 AM |
Who the fuck prepped Walz? All they had to do was make Vance look like a moron which is not hard.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | October 2, 2024 1:23 AM |
Walz definitely comes across as Presidential - Vance does not.
by Anonymous | reply 175 | October 2, 2024 1:23 AM |
Yeah, Vance just cemented his role as kid everybody hates in class. Everybody.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | October 2, 2024 1:23 AM |
Don't give cute looks to the camera JD. You're not that guy.
by Anonymous | reply 177 | October 2, 2024 1:23 AM |
Good answer there from Walz.
by Anonymous | reply 178 | October 2, 2024 1:23 AM |
Politics aside, Vance is hot.
by Anonymous | reply 179 | October 2, 2024 1:24 AM |
JD, STOP leering at us through our viewing screens every few seconds while Tim is speaking!!!
by Anonymous | reply 180 | October 2, 2024 1:24 AM |
[quote] He's relaxed and coming off as polished.
You mean he's coming off just polishing a full naugahyde sectional
by Anonymous | reply 181 | October 2, 2024 1:24 AM |
Oh yes Timmy just kicked his ass on the border.
by Anonymous | reply 182 | October 2, 2024 1:24 AM |
Lost, sex-trafficed illegal kids? How is that Biden's problem? It was the Dump administration who separated the kids from their parents and threw them into cages without giving a fuck what happened to them next. They had no system whatsoever.
Dump probably sold the kids to Russian perverts.
by Anonymous | reply 183 | October 2, 2024 1:24 AM |
The Vance strategy is clear: undercut, but not vicious attacks. He's in command of his messages.
by Anonymous | reply 184 | October 2, 2024 1:24 AM |
Vance is a such a fucking lying. I’d fact check him with a bag of bricks.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | October 2, 2024 1:24 AM |
Fuck you JD your ass doesn’t pass the smell test!
by Anonymous | reply 186 | October 2, 2024 1:24 AM |
Shut your whore mouth, R179.
by Anonymous | reply 187 | October 2, 2024 1:24 AM |
Vance is not hot. He's a scumbag.
by Anonymous | reply 188 | October 2, 2024 1:25 AM |
Hey, don’t insult QVC salespeople.
by Anonymous | reply 189 | October 2, 2024 1:25 AM |
Walz has to attack Vance's constant use of Kamala's name as if she were POTUS. He is using her name like some Tourette's syndrome junkie.
by Anonymous | reply 190 | October 2, 2024 1:25 AM |
Vance is a sleazy creep but he’s not a moron. Far from it.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | October 2, 2024 1:25 AM |
Tim's doing well with this too.
by Anonymous | reply 192 | October 2, 2024 1:25 AM |
And this is the easy stuff for Vance. As soon as they get into abortion and everything female-related, he's going to come off as a complete douche.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | October 2, 2024 1:26 AM |
Dems need to learn to be cockier and more streetwise—“Everpersons”—when they speak. The Repubs can be slimy, but they carry it off in a cool way that America 2024 raised on “Jerry Springer”-type talk shows crave and love.
by Anonymous | reply 194 | October 2, 2024 1:26 AM |
JD Vance has a total of 21 months of government experience only as a Senator, every job he has ever had Peter Thiel bought for him. If Trump is elected he will be the oldest person ever elected.
by Anonymous | reply 195 | October 2, 2024 1:26 AM |
[quote]Walz definitely comes across as Presidential - Vance does not.
I hate to tell you this - Walz is the guy on the right side of the screen.
by Anonymous | reply 196 | October 2, 2024 1:26 AM |
We hear you begging for attention, r179, but we're busy right now. Go play in traffic.
by Anonymous | reply 197 | October 2, 2024 1:26 AM |
[quote]Who the fuck prepped Walz? All they had to do was make Vance look like a moron which is not hard.
That would be DL Fave Pete Buttigieg. Tim's not doing bad at all.
by Anonymous | reply 198 | October 2, 2024 1:27 AM |
Vance may run a risk of over relying on his lines like border czar etc.
by Anonymous | reply 199 | October 2, 2024 1:27 AM |
CBS may not be fact-checking the two, but at times the moderators' questions are pointed enough to make Vance to look like he's full of shit.
by Anonymous | reply 200 | October 2, 2024 1:27 AM |
Vance is trying to do a calm, cool, collected, anti-Springer 180 from Dump's insane rambling THEY"RE EATING THE CATS debacle.
by Anonymous | reply 201 | October 2, 2024 1:27 AM |
It's migrants now instead of immigrants? We need to shorten words for the stupid Americans.
by Anonymous | reply 202 | October 2, 2024 1:28 AM |
Tim knows his shit, that's for sure.
by Anonymous | reply 203 | October 2, 2024 1:28 AM |
JD just lost talking over the women and mansplaining.
by Anonymous | reply 204 | October 2, 2024 1:28 AM |
hmmm, insisting on no fact checks is always interesting.
by Anonymous | reply 205 | October 2, 2024 1:28 AM |
"The rules were you weren't going to fact check. So since you're fact-checking me, I am going to take my time to talk out of order."
FUCKING PUSSY ASSHOLE!
by Anonymous | reply 206 | October 2, 2024 1:28 AM |
Margaret! Margaret! Shut him up.
by Anonymous | reply 207 | October 2, 2024 1:28 AM |
Cut his god damn mic!
by Anonymous | reply 208 | October 2, 2024 1:28 AM |
Prance STFU
by Anonymous | reply 209 | October 2, 2024 1:28 AM |
Ooh, Vance is whining that they fact-checked his ass!
by Anonymous | reply 210 | October 2, 2024 1:29 AM |
Why are these cunt moderators letting him keep talking. Fuck them.
by Anonymous | reply 211 | October 2, 2024 1:29 AM |
I think people are giving Vance way too much credit. He comes across as creepy and boring, not relatable or competent. Walz has managed to undercut him consistently.
by Anonymous | reply 212 | October 2, 2024 1:29 AM |
[quote] I must be the only one here but I find Vance hot as hell.
Yuck!
by Anonymous | reply 213 | October 2, 2024 1:29 AM |
If you won't want to be fact-checked, don't tell likes. Pretty simple.
by Anonymous | reply 214 | October 2, 2024 1:29 AM |
THEY TURNED HIS MIC OFF!!
by Anonymous | reply 215 | October 2, 2024 1:29 AM |
R211 they finally cut his microphone off!
by Anonymous | reply 216 | October 2, 2024 1:29 AM |
Yeah cut that hick's mike.
by Anonymous | reply 217 | October 2, 2024 1:29 AM |
Margaret just cunted off on JD. The MAGA crowd must be screeching.
by Anonymous | reply 218 | October 2, 2024 1:29 AM |
ohhhh now things are getting spiced
by Anonymous | reply 219 | October 2, 2024 1:29 AM |
CBS Producers and hosts are earning a surprising bit of acclaim there. Fact check, enforce a timer AND cut the mics all in a row?!
Well done!
by Anonymous | reply 220 | October 2, 2024 1:29 AM |
Pretty in pink, Margaret.
by Anonymous | reply 221 | October 2, 2024 1:29 AM |
On the books since 1990. Get him Tim!
by Anonymous | reply 222 | October 2, 2024 1:29 AM |
They were trying to spin Tim as a goofy dumb guy and he’s proven them wrong, of course.
by Anonymous | reply 223 | October 2, 2024 1:30 AM |
Jane Curtin would have told him to SHUT THE FUCK UP.
by Anonymous | reply 224 | October 2, 2024 1:30 AM |
Slide that religion in Tim, and now Vance is talking about the app? And we all KNEW that Vance was going to override her. What an asshole.
I love Tim's impassioned speech.
by Anonymous | reply 225 | October 2, 2024 1:30 AM |
I love telling everyone this but I EAT OLD PEOPLES EXCREMENT!!!
by Anonymous | reply 226 | October 2, 2024 1:30 AM |
Tim has found his groove. Controlled, knowledgeable and excellent delivery.
by Anonymous | reply 227 | October 2, 2024 1:31 AM |
Walz has honest eyes, Vance does not.
by Anonymous | reply 228 | October 2, 2024 1:31 AM |
Vance called it fact checking, so he admits he was lying?
by Anonymous | reply 229 | October 2, 2024 1:31 AM |
Walz, stop saying Look.
by Anonymous | reply 230 | October 2, 2024 1:31 AM |
Vance is a Proud Boy, nothing less.
by Anonymous | reply 231 | October 2, 2024 1:31 AM |
Tonight’s Vice Presidential Debate comes to you from Studio 45 in the CBS Broadcast Center, which was most famously the home of Captain Kangaroo.
by Anonymous | reply 232 | October 2, 2024 1:32 AM |
I can just hear JD's "gramma" talking... "Maybe you ARE a fag. You shur as hell WHINE like one!"
by Anonymous | reply 233 | October 2, 2024 1:32 AM |
Apparently what we also won't hear is anything about Trump's plan, or the actual question.
by Anonymous | reply 234 | October 2, 2024 1:32 AM |
It's hard for me to watch this without bias. I feel like Vance is really trying and lying well - but Walz is firing back and destroying his arguments.
by Anonymous | reply 235 | October 2, 2024 1:32 AM |
JD, you ignorant slut...
by Anonymous | reply 236 | October 2, 2024 1:32 AM |
Tim’s getting pumped now. :)
And I think Vance’s shirt is probably 100% polyester and from Costco’s.
by Anonymous | reply 237 | October 2, 2024 1:32 AM |
Vance hasn't even answered one question he was asked. Everything is deflection.
by Anonymous | reply 238 | October 2, 2024 1:33 AM |
He likes to bring up Kamala isn't doing it now, what about Trump who was President and didn't get it done
by Anonymous | reply 239 | October 2, 2024 1:33 AM |
Has Vance answered one question?
by Anonymous | reply 240 | October 2, 2024 1:33 AM |
I say look at everything except this dumb fuck's plan, cause something something 2016.
by Anonymous | reply 241 | October 2, 2024 1:33 AM |
Excuse me, you phony fuck, Biden/Harris assumed office during the COVID crisis and they had to undo the Trump shitshow.
by Anonymous | reply 242 | October 2, 2024 1:33 AM |
Tim's tie needed a contrasting color. JD's beard dye seems uneven.
by Anonymous | reply 243 | October 2, 2024 1:33 AM |
I despise the mods so much, it's giving me an anxiety attack.
by Anonymous | reply 244 | October 2, 2024 1:34 AM |
And I know Peter Thiel can't take care of all of you, so, um fuck off, losers!
by Anonymous | reply 245 | October 2, 2024 1:34 AM |
Vance blinks more and quicker than Madonna in a movie scene.
by Anonymous | reply 246 | October 2, 2024 1:34 AM |
Vance needs to tone down the mascara.
by Anonymous | reply 247 | October 2, 2024 1:34 AM |
TW is now marvellously composed.
Vance is getting repetitive. Now there's a school of thought that's good messaging.
I doubt this debate changes anything, although there's time for one of them go off the rails.
by Anonymous | reply 248 | October 2, 2024 1:34 AM |
Some of y’all would fuck any old white boy.
by Anonymous | reply 249 | October 2, 2024 1:34 AM |
Vance is not hot but all the extra mascara tonight does make his eyes kind of pretty.
by Anonymous | reply 250 | October 2, 2024 1:34 AM |
Shady JD is retreading and spent quite a bit of time trying to get his MAGADaddy Pussygrabber's attention talking up his "success". Knocked a bit back on his heels. C'mon Tim... pound him like Bibi is pounding Lebanon tonight!
by Anonymous | reply 251 | October 2, 2024 1:34 AM |
Trump fucked covid! Yup! Go Tim!
by Anonymous | reply 252 | October 2, 2024 1:35 AM |
Dump's gonna rip JD a new one for all this Walz praise. He's basically conceding the debate just 30 minutes in.
by Anonymous | reply 253 | October 2, 2024 1:35 AM |
Tim has JD tripping over his words now.
by Anonymous | reply 254 | October 2, 2024 1:35 AM |
Walz wants to punch Vance in the face, I can feel it.
by Anonymous | reply 255 | October 2, 2024 1:35 AM |
He borrowed Dump’s tie.
by Anonymous | reply 256 | October 2, 2024 1:35 AM |
I'm too nervous to watch... How is Walz doing?
by Anonymous | reply 257 | October 2, 2024 1:35 AM |
R250=Usha
by Anonymous | reply 258 | October 2, 2024 1:35 AM |
"If we shipped our manufacturing off to China...."
Please time me, Shady JD, where did your MAGADaddy Pussygrabber make all his original MAGA swag? Trump ties? Trump watches?
by Anonymous | reply 259 | October 2, 2024 1:35 AM |
[quote] Walz has honest eyes, Vance does not.
re: Vance's dishonest eyes:
Maybe he's born with it.
Maybe it's Maybelline!
by Anonymous | reply 260 | October 2, 2024 1:36 AM |
Yes, we know, you love your kids' white halves.
by Anonymous | reply 261 | October 2, 2024 1:36 AM |
[quote]Walz wants to punch Vance in the face
Who doesn't!
by Anonymous | reply 262 | October 2, 2024 1:36 AM |
Vance’s eyes are terrifying to me. There’s so much anger and hatred in them. He looks like a wife beater. I see nothing remotely attractive about the man.
by Anonymous | reply 263 | October 2, 2024 1:36 AM |
R258 Bitch, please.
by Anonymous | reply 264 | October 2, 2024 1:36 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 265 | October 2, 2024 1:36 AM |
[quote] Politics aside, Vance is hot.
You've already been warned about this, please stop.
by Anonymous | reply 266 | October 2, 2024 1:37 AM |
Vance has such a condescending demeanor.
by Anonymous | reply 267 | October 2, 2024 1:37 AM |
Fuck this -- ask about Project 2025 already!
by Anonymous | reply 268 | October 2, 2024 1:37 AM |
Here it comes. They're getting bitchy with each other.
by Anonymous | reply 269 | October 2, 2024 1:37 AM |
Come on! Vance is almost as hot as Hitler!
by Anonymous | reply 270 | October 2, 2024 1:37 AM |
What’s that creepy look gives to the camera when Walz is talking?
by Anonymous | reply 271 | October 2, 2024 1:37 AM |
China? China fast tracked 30-40 of Ivanka’s patents.
by Anonymous | reply 272 | October 2, 2024 1:38 AM |
WTF is Megyn Kelly yelling about?
by Anonymous | reply 273 | October 2, 2024 1:39 AM |
"I was raised by a woman who had to go into medical debt to put food on the table..."
How much food did your druggie Mama really put on the table as opposed to heroin in her veins?
Take Mama's name outta you lyin' MOUF, Couchfucker!
by Anonymous | reply 274 | October 2, 2024 1:39 AM |
Mama Vance is a welfare queen, a junkie, AND she don’t pay her bills!
by Anonymous | reply 275 | October 2, 2024 1:39 AM |
WTF is with “ME, ME!” Vance’s constant self-bios? And the moderators going for the sensational topic speaking points?
by Anonymous | reply 276 | October 2, 2024 1:39 AM |
It's:
i-Rahn
not EYE-ran.
by Anonymous | reply 277 | October 2, 2024 1:39 AM |
um??
by Anonymous | reply 278 | October 2, 2024 1:40 AM |
One of Trump's guests at his Bedminster Golf Club.
by Anonymous | reply 279 | October 2, 2024 1:40 AM |
LOL - knucklehead.
by Anonymous | reply 280 | October 2, 2024 1:40 AM |
Answer the question!
by Anonymous | reply 281 | October 2, 2024 1:40 AM |
I wish I could be one of the moderators and ask the question. " Can you please describe the bed and bath linens you had in your home growing up?".
by Anonymous | reply 282 | October 2, 2024 1:40 AM |
Margaret Brennan said “eye-ron” earlier.
by Anonymous | reply 283 | October 2, 2024 1:41 AM |
I paid that bitch's bills.
by Anonymous | reply 284 | October 2, 2024 1:41 AM |
America’s Hitler!!!!
by Anonymous | reply 285 | October 2, 2024 1:41 AM |
R274 I think he was referring to his granny who raised him, not his mother.
by Anonymous | reply 286 | October 2, 2024 1:41 AM |
huh???
by Anonymous | reply 287 | October 2, 2024 1:41 AM |
god, what a stupid "scandal., especially compared to every minute of Trump's life. Media is so fucking stupid, always.
by Anonymous | reply 288 | October 2, 2024 1:41 AM |
Bit of a word salad but he may be confounding Vance cause where is there to start?
by Anonymous | reply 289 | October 2, 2024 1:42 AM |
I’ve figured out JD gives that smarmy smile when he knows he’s in deep shit.
by Anonymous | reply 290 | October 2, 2024 1:42 AM |
Damn, JD got some resting cunt face.
by Anonymous | reply 291 | October 2, 2024 1:42 AM |
Oh honey, shave off that beard, no matter how skinny he is, he will always have a FAT FACE.
by Anonymous | reply 292 | October 2, 2024 1:42 AM |
The last 3 minutes will comprise a sketch this upcoming “SNL” episode.
by Anonymous | reply 293 | October 2, 2024 1:42 AM |
Was Walz just confessing to partaking in a communist uprising? LOL. WTF Tim.
by Anonymous | reply 294 | October 2, 2024 1:42 AM |
“I misspoke”
Simple and to the point.
by Anonymous | reply 295 | October 2, 2024 1:42 AM |
Dump and his lair mates paid me to say I’m wrong!
by Anonymous | reply 296 | October 2, 2024 1:43 AM |
I can smell Tim’s nappy pussy….
by Anonymous | reply 297 | October 2, 2024 1:43 AM |
Trump couldn’t find Tiananmen Square on a map. Heck, he couldn’t find China.
by Anonymous | reply 298 | October 2, 2024 1:43 AM |
He keeps using the moderators name every sentence.
by Anonymous | reply 299 | October 2, 2024 1:43 AM |
JD’s mouth looks like a particularly acidic pussy.
by Anonymous | reply 300 | October 2, 2024 1:43 AM |
[quote]How much food did your druggie Mama really put on the table as opposed to heroin in her veins?
Must have been a ton of food since Jaydine was fat as fuck.
by Anonymous | reply 301 | October 2, 2024 1:44 AM |
Vance: The Harris Administration??
by Anonymous | reply 302 | October 2, 2024 1:44 AM |
[quote] [R274] I think he was referring to his granny who raised him, not his mother
Not my problem... he said "Mother" But sure, let's look at his grandmother who enabled her children to be druggies and raised this piece-of-shit we are all watching tonight. I'm sure she'd be pretty proud of her grandson sucking up to a narcissistic faggot like Peter Thiel (not to mention his cock!) but still.... who are the idiots who think Shady JD would ever do anything to help a woman in his grandmother's position?!
by Anonymous | reply 303 | October 2, 2024 1:44 AM |
It’s so condescending when he keeps repeating their names. Did it to Dana too in the infamous interview.
by Anonymous | reply 304 | October 2, 2024 1:45 AM |
Now picture JD marching after dark with a tiki torch with the boys ... can you see it?
by Anonymous | reply 305 | October 2, 2024 1:45 AM |
lol Jaydine
by Anonymous | reply 306 | October 2, 2024 1:45 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 307 | October 2, 2024 1:45 AM |
Vance colors his hair eyebrows beard and fucking eyelashes
by Anonymous | reply 308 | October 2, 2024 1:45 AM |
Vance seems like he’d switch Parties in the middle of being elected and serving, if he wanted and thought he could try to.
by Anonymous | reply 309 | October 2, 2024 1:46 AM |
His face looks like a closeted southern preacher into BBC.
by Anonymous | reply 310 | October 2, 2024 1:46 AM |
Tim knocked it out of the park on this question about abortion.
by Anonymous | reply 311 | October 2, 2024 1:46 AM |
Project 2025!!
by Anonymous | reply 312 | October 2, 2024 1:46 AM |
Hmmmm something just shifted
by Anonymous | reply 313 | October 2, 2024 1:46 AM |
R309 Give it 10 years. He’ll be a new party, a new religion and a new name.
by Anonymous | reply 314 | October 2, 2024 1:47 AM |
oh, jesus, here we go.
by Anonymous | reply 315 | October 2, 2024 1:47 AM |
Vance's response to everything is about where he grew up or people he knows. What a dummy. No substance.
by Anonymous | reply 316 | October 2, 2024 1:48 AM |
Eww.
by Anonymous | reply 317 | October 2, 2024 1:48 AM |
“As messy as democracy is” - JD on abortion rights
by Anonymous | reply 318 | October 2, 2024 1:48 AM |
NOBODY on the right is ever going to do shit for single mothers. CNN looked at what has actually in red states since Dobbs, including states that promised oh lordy they was gonna take care of young, single mothers. Hey, you know what's happened? JACKSHIT!
by Anonymous | reply 319 | October 2, 2024 1:48 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 320 | October 2, 2024 1:48 AM |
Yes of course Vance is special pals with a secret person who just wishes she never had an abortion. Sure, JD.
by Anonymous | reply 321 | October 2, 2024 1:48 AM |
Huh. Vance acknowledge that people/women don't trust Republicans.
by Anonymous | reply 322 | October 2, 2024 1:49 AM |
Tim’s looking at Vance like he’s gone crazy, especially talking about giving families opportunities.
He cant believe the bs coming from Vance.
by Anonymous | reply 323 | October 2, 2024 1:49 AM |
"Let voters make these decisions" contrasts GREATLY with him talking about how the country needs "extra-constitutional" options in order to overthrow the government and seat a capable "CEO for the country".
Fuck you, you disingenuous, lying asshole piece of couchfucking shit!
by Anonymous | reply 324 | October 2, 2024 1:49 AM |
Vance stating Cal has a different view on abortion than a state like Georgia. Except for the fact when abortion has been on the ballot in R states, they've voted to keep abortion legal. Fuck this moron.
by Anonymous | reply 325 | October 2, 2024 1:49 AM |
R313: what?
by Anonymous | reply 326 | October 2, 2024 1:49 AM |
“LUV YA, MOMMA!”
by Anonymous | reply 327 | October 2, 2024 1:49 AM |
[quote] Unfortunately most Americans can relate to Vance’s bullshit life story than Harris and Walz. Trump knew what he was doing when he picked him.
I have never read Vance's book. But, I have read articles and seen videos in which some people in Kentucky and Ohio were annoyed with him calling them lazy hillbillies and Andy Beshear mentioned that in a CNN interview. There was review I read that said that some of Vance's complaints about people on government assistance seemed lifted from Ronald Reagan's welfare queen tales. The reviewer mentioned that Vance talked about working as a grocery store cashier and seeing people on food stamps with cell phones and that he was bitter because he couldn't afford one.
I was a grocery store cashier during two different periods while I was in college (2004 and 2007) . My main focus was just ringing people out and helping with bagging when baggers weren't around. If someone used food stamps or WIC, I just followed protocol and if they had a cell phone, I didn't care because I didn't know the whole fucking story of why were on EBT or WIC. My parents were friends with a couple who fostered special needs children and foster children under the age of 5 can receive WIC. They were probably times some of the WIC recipients at the grocery store with cell phones were foster parents. Then there are situations in which people who already have cell phones or certain things lose their jobs and may temporarily go on EBT/food stamps or other assistance programs. I know government assistance abuse/fraud exists. . But, in a grocery store setting it's fucking pointless to get upset just because someone with a cell phone is using EBT or WIC, nobody knows the whole fucking story and should just mind their own business in the fucking store.
by Anonymous | reply 328 | October 2, 2024 1:50 AM |
The question is how will Vance's performance tonight play with the public.
by Anonymous | reply 329 | October 2, 2024 1:50 AM |
Yes, look into my eyes Tim!
by Anonymous | reply 330 | October 2, 2024 1:50 AM |
His mother tried to abort him didn’t she.
by Anonymous | reply 331 | October 2, 2024 1:50 AM |
This conversation is making us nervous now
by Anonymous | reply 332 | October 2, 2024 1:51 AM |
R329, he's smooth but I don't see a changer.
by Anonymous | reply 333 | October 2, 2024 1:51 AM |
Vance thinks all women should be barefoot and pregnant.
by Anonymous | reply 334 | October 2, 2024 1:52 AM |
Most Americans couldn’t tell you where Yale is located if you gave them 3 chances. His life story is not relatable.
by Anonymous | reply 335 | October 2, 2024 1:52 AM |
I've just seen, for the fourth or so time tonight, a dejected look on Shady JD's face when Tim brings some facts to the debate. He doesn't know what to do with them, much less counter them. But he does manage to keep talking, sound smooth and keep the lies flowing.
by Anonymous | reply 336 | October 2, 2024 1:52 AM |
r333, I meant game changer.
by Anonymous | reply 337 | October 2, 2024 1:52 AM |
Nobody in their right minds believes the Republican Party gives a flying fuck if some young single mother and her kid stays poor and miserable forever. It's not just some marketing problem. It's everything the Republican Party has been for 50 years. They care about carrying the kid to term, and then fuck 'em. Always.
by Anonymous | reply 338 | October 2, 2024 1:52 AM |
Wait up. Catholic nuns? Kamala, what?
by Anonymous | reply 339 | October 2, 2024 1:53 AM |
There JD goes, making up shit.
by Anonymous | reply 340 | October 2, 2024 1:53 AM |
The people who are single issue voters on abortion are going to vote for Harris no matter what.
by Anonymous | reply 341 | October 2, 2024 1:53 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 342 | October 2, 2024 1:53 AM |
Kamala is suing the nuns!
by Anonymous | reply 343 | October 2, 2024 1:54 AM |
I’d rather Kamala gets in and if something happened to her we’d have the more experienced and maturer Walz as her replacement, than if Trump for elected and croaked and we had Viagra Vance taking his place and actually running our country.
by Anonymous | reply 344 | October 2, 2024 1:54 AM |
Doesn’t it seem like Vance knows Trump will lose so he’s just promoting himself?
by Anonymous | reply 345 | October 2, 2024 1:54 AM |
Walz looks hopped up on speed. He has no pupils!
by Anonymous | reply 346 | October 2, 2024 1:55 AM |
Walz finally shut him up and got the last word.
by Anonymous | reply 347 | October 2, 2024 1:55 AM |
Abortion round to TW.
by Anonymous | reply 348 | October 2, 2024 1:55 AM |
Yes! Tim is holding his own. It’s sort of impossible to do with the barrage of lies being thrown out there.
by Anonymous | reply 349 | October 2, 2024 1:55 AM |
When Roe v. Wade was in place, women weren't bleeding to death in emergency room corridors, plain and simple.
by Anonymous | reply 350 | October 2, 2024 1:55 AM |
Vance has always run like he’s the #1. It hasn’t been reported on enough. I think The Atlantic mentioned in once in an article on Trump.
by Anonymous | reply 351 | October 2, 2024 1:55 AM |
Why didn't she pick Josh Shapiro?
by Anonymous | reply 352 | October 2, 2024 1:56 AM |
Republicans:"They're eating the dogs! They're eating the cats! They're suing the nuns!"
by Anonymous | reply 353 | October 2, 2024 1:56 AM |
DJT and JD are going to save the good looking nuns.
by Anonymous | reply 354 | October 2, 2024 1:56 AM |
These VP debates don't usually change anyone's opinions. As long as neither one makes a terrible blunder. And neither of them has so far.
by Anonymous | reply 355 | October 2, 2024 1:56 AM |
Catholic nuns don't have kids JD because they are married to Jesus.
by Anonymous | reply 356 | October 2, 2024 1:56 AM |
They're eating the nuns!!1!!
by Anonymous | reply 357 | October 2, 2024 1:56 AM |
Why didn't Dump pick Viktor Orbán?
by Anonymous | reply 358 | October 2, 2024 1:57 AM |
Pee break.
by Anonymous | reply 359 | October 2, 2024 1:57 AM |
Or RFK Jr?
by Anonymous | reply 360 | October 2, 2024 1:57 AM |
For all of us wimps who can't bring our delicate constitutions to tune in tonight, how would you HONESTLY say Walz and Vance are each doing so far, on a scale of 1-10?
by Anonymous | reply 361 | October 2, 2024 1:58 AM |
If Viagra Vance ever became president R344, the couch cleaning bill in the Oval Office would be astronomical.
by Anonymous | reply 362 | October 2, 2024 1:59 AM |
Or Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg!??
by Anonymous | reply 363 | October 2, 2024 1:59 AM |
Vance 5/5 Walz 5/5
by Anonymous | reply 364 | October 2, 2024 1:59 AM |
"I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE DETAILS"?
by Anonymous | reply 365 | October 2, 2024 2:00 AM |
Vance reminds me of the guy who tried to buy Pee-wee's bike.
by Anonymous | reply 366 | October 2, 2024 2:00 AM |
Vance seems way too upbeat while describing kids dying from gun violence.
by Anonymous | reply 367 | October 2, 2024 2:00 AM |
Tim is at about an 8
Can’t really tell about the other loser since every other sentence is a fucking lie.
by Anonymous | reply 368 | October 2, 2024 2:01 AM |
"Kamala Harris's open border"
asshole!
by Anonymous | reply 369 | October 2, 2024 2:01 AM |
R364 Ugh. That's disappointing.
by Anonymous | reply 370 | October 2, 2024 2:01 AM |
yeah, the doorlocks. Oh fuck off, you sad twat.
by Anonymous | reply 371 | October 2, 2024 2:01 AM |
[quote] Why didn't she pick Josh Shapiro?
Because she needs a supportive partner not a covetous competitor.
by Anonymous | reply 372 | October 2, 2024 2:01 AM |
Walz is strong. Vance just seems like creep. He loathes the poor. Exploits them as needy paupers at every turn.
by Anonymous | reply 373 | October 2, 2024 2:01 AM |
“Seeing their little faces when they come home … “
BARF GLURGE PUKE
by Anonymous | reply 374 | October 2, 2024 2:02 AM |
Nervous Nellie here. I'm exhaling because Walz is winning.
by Anonymous | reply 375 | October 2, 2024 2:02 AM |
Wow the Abortion question really tanked JD.
by Anonymous | reply 376 | October 2, 2024 2:02 AM |
Vance's solution is stronger doors and windows instead of gun control??
by Anonymous | reply 377 | October 2, 2024 2:02 AM |
He is crazy you have to double down on gun laws not change the school locks! Asshole.
by Anonymous | reply 378 | October 2, 2024 2:02 AM |
Gun violence’. Get it Tim!
by Anonymous | reply 379 | October 2, 2024 2:03 AM |
If Vance mentions his three adorable kids once more we're going to shoot him dead.
by Anonymous | reply 380 | October 2, 2024 2:03 AM |
[quote] For all of us wimps who can't bring our delicate constitutions to tune in tonight, how would you HONESTLY say Walz and Vance are each doing so far, on a scale of 1-10?
They are each holding their own. I will grudgingly give Shady JD credit for landing some punches when he can. But I think if there is one moment of the evening to remember, so far it is when he complained, "You weren't supposed to fact-check me, but since you did, I'm going to break the rules too."
by Anonymous | reply 381 | October 2, 2024 2:03 AM |
Word salad translation: Vance says nothing will change re. guns, so prepare for more mass shootings.
by Anonymous | reply 382 | October 2, 2024 2:03 AM |
I'm sick of Walz saying he agrees with the couch fucker.
by Anonymous | reply 383 | October 2, 2024 2:04 AM |
[quote] For all of us wimps who can't bring our delicate constitutions to tune in tonight, how would you HONESTLY say Walz and Vance are each doing so far
by Anonymous | reply 384 | October 2, 2024 2:04 AM |
JD to America: You're Crazy!
by Anonymous | reply 385 | October 2, 2024 2:04 AM |
He just said "Christ have mercy" at a vice-presidential debate? What a fucking douchebag God-botherer.
by Anonymous | reply 386 | October 2, 2024 2:04 AM |
"Christ have mercy" . Really JD?
by Anonymous | reply 387 | October 2, 2024 2:05 AM |
Vance is trying to appear likable & reasonable & is probably succeeding with that. He can’t defend Trump or his policies though so he just shifts the subject. Walz is genuinely authentic & likable and well versed in the policies that he & Kamala support. He’s done a good job of fending off JD’s lies. I doubt if this debate will change anyone’s mind if it continues to go this way. Vance did say not to trust scientists & experts, which is outrageous, but I’m afraid a lot of MAGAs agree with him.
by Anonymous | reply 388 | October 2, 2024 2:05 AM |
"Christ have mercy" if Trump/Vance win....
by Anonymous | reply 389 | October 2, 2024 2:05 AM |
Walz has been great on abortion and guns.
by Anonymous | reply 390 | October 2, 2024 2:05 AM |
Sometimes it is just the guns.
by Anonymous | reply 391 | October 2, 2024 2:05 AM |
Walz is killing it on this gun and schools issue. This is why she picked him.
by Anonymous | reply 392 | October 2, 2024 2:06 AM |
Yazzzz, Tim!
by Anonymous | reply 393 | October 2, 2024 2:06 AM |
From The Times's Jonathan Weisman:
[quote] The debate so far has been tense, which might have been expected. What has been unexpected is Walz’s demeanor. He has sounded defensive, without his trademark Minnesota affability.
by Anonymous | reply 394 | October 2, 2024 2:07 AM |
[quote] Vance did say not to trust scientists & experts, which is outrageous, but I’m afraid a lot of MAGAs agree with him.
In other words, only the Trump Cult members will actually like him, which they already do cause Trump ordered them to. Beyond that, I'm sure he's made no inroads tonight.
by Anonymous | reply 395 | October 2, 2024 2:07 AM |
LOL though - I think Walz just said he made fiends with school shooters.
by Anonymous | reply 396 | October 2, 2024 2:07 AM |
Anyone in a debate who complains that someone called out their lies during said debate did not win the debate.
by Anonymous | reply 397 | October 2, 2024 2:07 AM |
I think at the break that Walz did go to pee, but that Vance just remained at his podium playing pocket pool while leering at the moderators and some CBS offstage camerawomen.
by Anonymous | reply 398 | October 2, 2024 2:07 AM |
Vance winces. How DARE Walt bring up going to church! You see everything on gay boys face.
by Anonymous | reply 399 | October 2, 2024 2:07 AM |
R396 Yeah Tim's gotta cut those ties.
by Anonymous | reply 400 | October 2, 2024 2:07 AM |
It lost in 2016 and by a larger margin in 2020.
Also, where is Mike Pence?
by Anonymous | reply 401 | October 2, 2024 2:08 AM |
I am just glad that JD learned from my example and decided to play a nicer, gentler, whiter version of that character I totally nailed last Saturday Night.
by Anonymous | reply 402 | October 2, 2024 2:08 AM |
R394 “Why that’s bad news for Joe Biden.”
by Anonymous | reply 403 | October 2, 2024 2:08 AM |
Vance is benefitting from a positive comparison to Trump the Deranged.
Kinda like landing on 3rd base without having to bat.
by Anonymous | reply 404 | October 2, 2024 2:08 AM |
R394 How fucking affable can you be when it most likely takes all your willpower not to walk across the stage and punch JD in his smarmy lying face?
by Anonymous | reply 405 | October 2, 2024 2:09 AM |
Thank god Walz isn’t doing another debate. He’s awful.
by Anonymous | reply 406 | October 2, 2024 2:09 AM |
Walz is doing well but just as with the previous two debates the moderators are giving the republican more time and more response opportunities.
And though I think Walz is doing well I wish he would hit Vance back a lot harder than he has and I think he's missed a lot of opportunities. He's allowing Vance to appear normal instead of relentlessly showing him up for the weirdo he is, which is what he should be doing.
by Anonymous | reply 407 | October 2, 2024 2:09 AM |
JD goes after Kamala, constantly mentioning her name. Walz doesn't mention Trump at all. They're pretty much surrogates up there so mention Trump every damn chance you can.
by Anonymous | reply 408 | October 2, 2024 2:09 AM |
These two are sounding and looking like each other’s running mates defending themselves together against the 2 moderators in these last few minutes.
by Anonymous | reply 409 | October 2, 2024 2:09 AM |
[quote] I'm sick of Walz saying he agrees with the couch fucker.
Miss Maybelline's priority tonight was to humanize himself. So he has made superficially gracious and sympathetic comments to Walz. Walz has to try and return some of it so he doesn't seem hostile or mean.
by Anonymous | reply 410 | October 2, 2024 2:10 AM |
Why didn't you ask why Pence is not on the ticket and will not support orange
by Anonymous | reply 411 | October 2, 2024 2:11 AM |
Oh, come on: the illegal aliens are wandering into the bank to get a fucking mortgage?
by Anonymous | reply 412 | October 2, 2024 2:11 AM |
IS JD on the Ozempic train?
by Anonymous | reply 413 | October 2, 2024 2:11 AM |
I just noticed how much Vance blinks when stating "facts".
by Anonymous | reply 414 | October 2, 2024 2:11 AM |
Vance looks and sounds like one of Will’s or Jack’s blind dates.
by Anonymous | reply 415 | October 2, 2024 2:11 AM |
Guns? It's the immigrants. Housing? Immigrants? Everything is the immigrants' fault!
by Anonymous | reply 416 | October 2, 2024 2:12 AM |
Walz is very genuine. He's doing a terrific job.
by Anonymous | reply 417 | October 2, 2024 2:12 AM |
Margaret has Vance's number, I watch Face the Nation.
by Anonymous | reply 418 | October 2, 2024 2:12 AM |
Walz did mention Trump a lot in the beginning.
by Anonymous | reply 419 | October 2, 2024 2:12 AM |
Trump won't be happy about this. Maybelline is breaking every Roy Cohn rule.
by Anonymous | reply 420 | October 2, 2024 2:12 AM |
I rimmed JD Vance after he ate 2 chili dogs and a head of cabbage!
by Anonymous | reply 421 | October 2, 2024 2:13 AM |
Vance keeps demonizing Kamala while not attacking Walz. I agree that Walz should attack some of the weird stuff more. He’s letting JD off the hook too easily. It’s like he’s concentrating to get out the message he wants to promote. A little more criticism of the other side might help.
by Anonymous | reply 422 | October 2, 2024 2:13 AM |
I kinda want to move to Minnesota now.
by Anonymous | reply 423 | October 2, 2024 2:13 AM |
The problem is that Walz is doing a great job BUT Vance DOESN'T have to do even a very good job to get all the MSM's accolades.
by Anonymous | reply 424 | October 2, 2024 2:13 AM |
Kamala, Kamala, Kamala! Kamala is not the president!
by Anonymous | reply 425 | October 2, 2024 2:14 AM |
Vance: “ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!”
Moderators: “Migrants!”
by Anonymous | reply 426 | October 2, 2024 2:14 AM |
The Times's Katie Glueck:
[quote] Walz is capable of effectively branding Republicans in negative terms — recall that he rose to national prominence during the vice-presidential search by calling the Republican ticket “weird” — but he is not going that route tonight, sounding more like an old-school member of Congress making conciliatory gestures to the other side of the aisle.
by Anonymous | reply 427 | October 2, 2024 2:14 AM |
As Meghan MyFather McCain would say, "This debate is not going to move the needle either way."
Quite honestly, it's too lame and boring.
by Anonymous | reply 428 | October 2, 2024 2:15 AM |
Ooo... "concepts" time...
by Anonymous | reply 429 | October 2, 2024 2:15 AM |
Excuse me, but I have to go. There’s an illegal migrant at my door with a suitcase full of cash and he wants to buy my home!
by Anonymous | reply 430 | October 2, 2024 2:15 AM |
Walz did well with the Congress line on regulation.
by Anonymous | reply 431 | October 2, 2024 2:15 AM |
speaking of a 900-page proposal ... um, PROJECT 2025! Bring it up.
by Anonymous | reply 432 | October 2, 2024 2:15 AM |
Someone upthread mentioned hating how much Tim agrees with JD. What's wrong with that? JD has decided to tack to the center, a place where Tim and Kamala already comfortably inhabit. The killer punch needs to be.... "Well, Shady JD, if you really believe all this center-medium pablum, where are your plans, calls and cries for such policies?"
by Anonymous | reply 433 | October 2, 2024 2:16 AM |
Anyone who has worked in a corporate environment knows the Vance type. Smooth talk, conveying the illusion of ideas. They subtly blame everyone else for whatever goes wrong. None of them last long because they don’t actually have a core.
by Anonymous | reply 434 | October 2, 2024 2:16 AM |
When is this damn thing over?
by Anonymous | reply 435 | October 2, 2024 2:16 AM |
The Times's Jonathan Swan:
[quote] Vance’s team went into this debate with the idea that the Walz people would assume he’d double down on everything and be an attack dog. His lower-key approach — seeking moments to agree with Walz and to emphasize bipartisanship — is one of the ways they looked to throw him off balance.
by Anonymous | reply 436 | October 2, 2024 2:16 AM |
"You go into a hospital and try to buy something... "
DaFuck??
by Anonymous | reply 437 | October 2, 2024 2:16 AM |
Because JD is lying through his teeth, that's why, R433.
by Anonymous | reply 438 | October 2, 2024 2:17 AM |
Walz is being too 'didligent' and thwarting his more affable delivery, to my dismay
by Anonymous | reply 439 | October 2, 2024 2:17 AM |
Trump saved "Obamacare?" LOLOLOLOLOL. Thanks for my laugh of the night.
by Anonymous | reply 440 | October 2, 2024 2:17 AM |
Maggie Haberman:
[quote] What’s striking about this debate is how relatively normal it feels, just as the Pence-Harris debate did four years ago and the Pence-Tim Kaine debate did four years before that. The debates that Trump participates in are unlike anything in modern U.S. political history.
by Anonymous | reply 441 | October 2, 2024 2:17 AM |
OMG -price transparency” - for health care ; go shopping for your emergency appendectomy…ridiculoso
by Anonymous | reply 442 | October 2, 2024 2:18 AM |
If Dems want to appeal to more potential Republican-refugee voters, they gotta talk healthcare and abortion topics more also from the perspective of enabling programs promoting more personal choices and planned parenthood accountability. Get their attention where/however you can!
by Anonymous | reply 443 | October 2, 2024 2:18 AM |
Walz doesn't appear to have been thrown off balance. Quite the contrary.
by Anonymous | reply 444 | October 2, 2024 2:18 AM |
Is Vance pronouncing Kamala’s name correctly?
by Anonymous | reply 445 | October 2, 2024 2:18 AM |
Ooooooh... John McCain....
by Anonymous | reply 446 | October 2, 2024 2:18 AM |
I would say JD did well at the start, but Walz is pretty much taking over the debate and coming off as presidential. JD comes off as a wannabe.
by Anonymous | reply 447 | October 2, 2024 2:19 AM |
R441, Tim Kaine acted like a maniac while Pence remained calm throughout.
by Anonymous | reply 448 | October 2, 2024 2:19 AM |
[quote] The Times's Jonathan Swan:
As this debate fails to provide any really spiciness... can we pivot and discuss just what we think Jonathan's sizemeat and ballsack might be?
by Anonymous | reply 449 | October 2, 2024 2:19 AM |
The mods may not be fact-checking, but they are doing a lot of "just answer the question"s
by Anonymous | reply 451 | October 2, 2024 2:20 AM |
More from Jonathan Swan:
[quote] Trying to portray Trump’s four years in office as a triumph for health-care policy is one of Vance’s more brazen efforts this debate. Trump’s highest-profile health care intervention was his failed effort to repeal Obamacare. Trump kept promising a health-care plan that never arrived. Still hasn’t.
by Anonymous | reply 452 | October 2, 2024 2:21 AM |
Trump "saved" Obamacare is not just a really stupid bullshit point, but it kind of undermines the whole wingnut dingbat view of life. That Obama was the antiChrist and Trump's job was to destroy everything he did, especially health care.
by Anonymous | reply 453 | October 2, 2024 2:21 AM |
Shady Vance is prepping for his own Presidential run in 2028. He's not here to debate Walz. A blind man can see this tonight.
by Anonymous | reply 454 | October 2, 2024 2:21 AM |
Ten minutes left.
by Anonymous | reply 455 | October 2, 2024 2:21 AM |
I like this version of Walz. He's putting on his governor hat and taking control of the meeting. He has facts and he's there to get business done. It's a good look for a VP hopeful.
by Anonymous | reply 456 | October 2, 2024 2:21 AM |
The more Trump runs, the more IMO he reflects what’s become passé about our Presidency in 2024. Kamala as potential President represents more of America’s electorate today, and is better balanced with Walz representing aging but still very much working Americans.
by Anonymous | reply 457 | October 2, 2024 2:21 AM |
Walz is hitting the health care discussion out of the park.
by Anonymous | reply 458 | October 2, 2024 2:21 AM |
Trump's idea of healthcare was injecting bleach into patients with Covid.
by Anonymous | reply 459 | October 2, 2024 2:21 AM |
The moderators have the situation well in hand.
Leave it to women, again, to show how it should be done.
by Anonymous | reply 460 | October 2, 2024 2:22 AM |
[quote] OMG -price transparency” - for health care ; go shopping for your emergency appendectomy…ridiculoso
why is that so ridiculous? why shouldn't I know just how much a CT scan is going to be? Or where I might be able to go to find a cheaper one? Why can't I decide where to have an elective surgery based on their OR/Facility fees?
Isn't it capitalist to think that knowledge of prices affects demand and encourages competition, which then ought to decrease price?
by Anonymous | reply 461 | October 2, 2024 2:22 AM |
And, r441, that's as critical of Trump as Maggie's gonna get.
by Anonymous | reply 462 | October 2, 2024 2:23 AM |
[quote] Because JD is lying through his teeth, that's why, [R433].
He's lying through his teeth by implying he supports these moderate, reasonable positions.
by Anonymous | reply 463 | October 2, 2024 2:24 AM |
The reason Tim Walz is doing so much better is that he's bringing the facts and experience he had with being governor of Minnesota. JD Vance has done shit as a senator and can't bring any real facts. All he can do is appeal to emotion with fabrications.
by Anonymous | reply 464 | October 2, 2024 2:24 AM |
Walz is down to earth, I don't know what planet Vance is on.
by Anonymous | reply 465 | October 2, 2024 2:25 AM |
“Our three beautiful kids.. “
SHUT THE FUCK UP
by Anonymous | reply 466 | October 2, 2024 2:25 AM |
JD doesn't support positions -any positions. He has no position beyond his own immediate self-interest.
by Anonymous | reply 467 | October 2, 2024 2:25 AM |
"I have a beautiful wife, and she's a corporate litigator, which means I know a lot about family leave."
by Anonymous | reply 468 | October 2, 2024 2:25 AM |
Guess what -JD is. Straight, married husband and father who loves his American Family -as he has told us several times so far…
by Anonymous | reply 469 | October 2, 2024 2:26 AM |
[quote] Leave it to women, again, to show how it should be done.
I agree, R460.
by Anonymous | reply 470 | October 2, 2024 2:26 AM |
Yup, I can guarantee he has never ever voted for any of the "positions" he claims to have tonight, not ever.
by Anonymous | reply 471 | October 2, 2024 2:26 AM |
Just reading Twitter: watch for the talking head class to say Walz blew it... not tough enough. Arm chairs, but it will be interesting to see if it holds in the post-game chatter.
by Anonymous | reply 472 | October 2, 2024 2:26 AM |
"defend my runningmate a little bit." That is not going to go over well, and I am already loving it.
by Anonymous | reply 473 | October 2, 2024 2:27 AM |
Vance is playing a Stepford husband tonight. Badly.
by Anonymous | reply 474 | October 2, 2024 2:27 AM |
[quote]Is Vance pronouncing Kamala’s name correctly?'
Yes
by Anonymous | reply 475 | October 2, 2024 2:27 AM |
"Guess what -JD is. Straight, married husband and father who loves his American Family"
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
by Anonymous | reply 476 | October 2, 2024 2:27 AM |
I like how Tim is speaking as a governor from a successful state and knows the logistics of it.
I liked how he sounded a few moments ago.
by Anonymous | reply 477 | October 2, 2024 2:28 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 478 | October 2, 2024 2:28 AM |
R461, most insurance companies have a specific amount they will pay out for a procedure. The hospital can charge $10,000 for a procedure but if it's capped at $2,000 that's the amount they will accept.
by Anonymous | reply 479 | October 2, 2024 2:28 AM |
So Project 2025 was literally NEVER brought up???
by Anonymous | reply 480 | October 2, 2024 2:28 AM |
More babysitters!
by Anonymous | reply 481 | October 2, 2024 2:28 AM |
More from Jonathan Weisman:
[quote] If you missed the conversation on health care, you missed a bravura performance by JD Vance to dance away from his recent statements about creating special “risk pools” for people with pre-existing medical conditions. When Vance said that, he seemed to be laying the groundwork for another effort to repeal the Affordable Care Act. The moderators asked him repeatedly how his plans would protect people with health care conditions that would make it hard to buy insurance without the protections of the Affordable Care Act. His response: “We have laws to protect people with pre-existing conditions.” Those laws are in the Affordable Care Act.
by Anonymous | reply 482 | October 2, 2024 2:28 AM |
I've noticed that Vance imperceptibly cringes when the moderators quote Trump.
by Anonymous | reply 483 | October 2, 2024 2:28 AM |
R461, many people in the U.S. live in an area where there are no health care choices, at least within 50 miles. Regardless, when a person needs an appendectomy, price shopping is not an option because they are in an emergency room with the option of an emergency operation or die.
by Anonymous | reply 484 | October 2, 2024 2:28 AM |
His PhD mother-in-law took a year off from her university teaching position to help with his American Family Child Care.
by Anonymous | reply 485 | October 2, 2024 2:28 AM |
It was brought up at least twice R480
by Anonymous | reply 486 | October 2, 2024 2:29 AM |
^It was R483. Tim mentioned it.
by Anonymous | reply 487 | October 2, 2024 2:29 AM |
The Times's Alan Rappeport:
[quote] After giving some stilted answers on his previous misstatements, Walz seems to have found his footing discussing the “care economy” issues that are at the core of the Harris campaign. Vance then gives a long answer about creating a model to give families different kinds of childcare options. Trump last month said that childcare was relatively inexpensive.
by Anonymous | reply 488 | October 2, 2024 2:29 AM |
Vance also will look to the right when Walz states facts.
by Anonymous | reply 489 | October 2, 2024 2:29 AM |
I am curious about which "republican" party JD comes from? He makes it sound like a warm, inviting, compassionate party.
by Anonymous | reply 490 | October 2, 2024 2:29 AM |
[quote] Trying to portray Trump’s four years in office as a triumph for health-care policy is one of Vance’s more brazen efforts this debate. Trump’s highest-profile health care intervention was his failed effort to repeal Obamacare. Trump kept promising a health-care plan that never arrived. Still hasn’t.
I would add this, to my earlier opinion to the nervous people who can't watch this tonight.... I think that the immediate impression of tonight is going to be that it was a stalemate. It will be in the days and couple weeks (after all, people are already voting!) when people start to hold Shady JD's proclamations and lies to the light, the MAGA position will really be shown to be the shadow puppet show it is.
And in my own fevered fantasy, I hope there is a moment when we see the silhouette of MAGADaddy Pussygrabber slowly pulling his hand out of Shady JD's asshole/puppetsock. And that "GASP!"? That's The Senatrice clutching her pearls.
by Anonymous | reply 491 | October 2, 2024 2:29 AM |
Vance talks like a socialist and agree with democrats in some of these issues. I think he is confused with his party real agenda
by Anonymous | reply 492 | October 2, 2024 2:30 AM |
R484. …my point, EXACTLY !
by Anonymous | reply 493 | October 2, 2024 2:30 AM |
JD knows he is fucked with the election question.
by Anonymous | reply 494 | October 2, 2024 2:30 AM |
"I want to answer your question because you did ask it."
by Anonymous | reply 495 | October 2, 2024 2:30 AM |
R466: That's exactly what he told his kid about his Pokemon.
by Anonymous | reply 496 | October 2, 2024 2:30 AM |
Vance: I don't want to discuss Trump's election denial
by Anonymous | reply 497 | October 2, 2024 2:31 AM |
Kamala Harris' policies?
by Anonymous | reply 498 | October 2, 2024 2:31 AM |
BOBBY KENNEDY AND TULSI GABBARD!
by Anonymous | reply 499 | October 2, 2024 2:31 AM |
Vance is SO full of shit.
by Anonymous | reply 500 | October 2, 2024 2:31 AM |
R492 he is not confused; he is, however, lying…
by Anonymous | reply 501 | October 2, 2024 2:32 AM |
RFK Jr and Tulsi, bringin' out the big guns!
by Anonymous | reply 502 | October 2, 2024 2:32 AM |
oh, gross! Kennedy, Gabbard!?!
by Anonymous | reply 503 | October 2, 2024 2:32 AM |
WWWWWWAAAAAAAATTTTT censorship???
by Anonymous | reply 504 | October 2, 2024 2:33 AM |
[quote]He makes it sound like a warm, inviting, compassionate party.
IT"S A COOKBOOK!
by Anonymous | reply 505 | October 2, 2024 2:33 AM |
500!
by Anonymous | reply 506 | October 2, 2024 2:33 AM |
Democracy is bigger than winning an election."
by Anonymous | reply 507 | October 2, 2024 2:33 AM |
Go Tim Prance is lying! Call out Dump too…
by Anonymous | reply 508 | October 2, 2024 2:33 AM |
This is not a good ending for Vance.
by Anonymous | reply 509 | October 2, 2024 2:34 AM |
You go Walz!
by Anonymous | reply 510 | October 2, 2024 2:34 AM |
I agree r491. Trump has made it clear he don't give a fuck ever about healthcare, and JD's pretense that he saved Obamacare, cause he really cares, will look more and more ridiculous over the next few days.
by Anonymous | reply 511 | October 2, 2024 2:34 AM |
Vance beeps getting the full-shoulders left Brady screen, while Walz’s right side gets cut off. :(
by Anonymous | reply 512 | October 2, 2024 2:34 AM |
Why no mention of childless cat ladies and eating cats and dogs?
by Anonymous | reply 513 | October 2, 2024 2:34 AM |
GET HIM TIM.
by Anonymous | reply 514 | October 2, 2024 2:34 AM |
But did Hillary cause an insurrection?
by Anonymous | reply 515 | October 2, 2024 2:35 AM |
Vance - democrats bad!
by Anonymous | reply 516 | October 2, 2024 2:35 AM |
Omg Dump did not hand over the Presidency peacefully WTF
by Anonymous | reply 517 | October 2, 2024 2:35 AM |
More from Jonathan Swan:
[quote] Vance tried to portray Trump’s objections in the 2020 election as just some healthy civil discourse. In fact, Trump and his allies have been charged with a conspiracy to overthrow the results of the election, including drawing up fake slates of electors. It culminated in a violent riot at the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob.
by Anonymous | reply 518 | October 2, 2024 2:35 AM |
Yeah, that's gonna look insane also r517.
by Anonymous | reply 519 | October 2, 2024 2:35 AM |
"January 6th was not facebook ads"
by Anonymous | reply 520 | October 2, 2024 2:36 AM |
JD Vance can't even answer the question whether or not Donald Trump lost the 2020 election.
by Anonymous | reply 521 | October 2, 2024 2:36 AM |
So ladies and gentlemen, despite my manufactured image tonight, the real reason I was chosen as Running Mate is because I can snap my fingers to martial a rebellion in an instant, I have those connections ...
by Anonymous | reply 522 | October 2, 2024 2:36 AM |
Vance is flat-out gaslighting
by Anonymous | reply 523 | October 2, 2024 2:36 AM |
Just hug it in and get a room, boys!
by Anonymous | reply 524 | October 2, 2024 2:36 AM |
Only Dems will have seen it but the doc on Pelosi had a great section on Trumps attempt to overturn the AHA. McCain’s deciding vote etc Stunned that he is lying about it so brazenly.
by Anonymous | reply 525 | October 2, 2024 2:36 AM |
Vance is a snake.
by Anonymous | reply 526 | October 2, 2024 2:36 AM |
"Damning non-answer" Yeah!
by Anonymous | reply 527 | October 2, 2024 2:37 AM |
Vance was prepped for the debate by Norm Crosby.
by Anonymous | reply 528 | October 2, 2024 2:37 AM |
More from Maggie Haberman:
[quote] Walz, after a bit of throat-clearing at the top, brought up the deaths of police officers stemming from the Jan. 6, 2021, attack by Trump's supporters, and Trump's threats to prosecute critics.
[quote] “A president’s words matter,” Walz said. This was undoubtedly one of Walz’s best moments in the debate, and it came 90 minutes in.
by Anonymous | reply 529 | October 2, 2024 2:37 AM |
no Tim, the line is "I want Republicans to reject insurrection!"
by Anonymous | reply 530 | October 2, 2024 2:37 AM |
They're both being pretty gentlemanly, but Walz is being a little too gentle with Vance.
by Anonymous | reply 531 | October 2, 2024 2:37 AM |
Tim Walz won this debate on this issue alone. Full stop!
by Anonymous | reply 532 | October 2, 2024 2:38 AM |
Vance will NOT say Trump lost the 2020 election
by Anonymous | reply 533 | October 2, 2024 2:38 AM |
"That's why Mike Pence isn't on this stage."
by Anonymous | reply 534 | October 2, 2024 2:38 AM |
“That’s why Mike Pence is not on this stage”.
ZING!
by Anonymous | reply 535 | October 2, 2024 2:38 AM |
BIG FINISH!
by Anonymous | reply 536 | October 2, 2024 2:38 AM |
I thought the debate was supposed to be 90 minutes?
by Anonymous | reply 537 | October 2, 2024 2:38 AM |
FUCK YEAH TIM!
by Anonymous | reply 538 | October 2, 2024 2:39 AM |
That finish was fuckin bellissimo!
by Anonymous | reply 539 | October 2, 2024 2:39 AM |
Good strong finish.
by Anonymous | reply 540 | October 2, 2024 2:39 AM |
Did I miss the day when Facebook became the government?
by Anonymous | reply 541 | October 2, 2024 2:39 AM |
Tim delivered.
by Anonymous | reply 542 | October 2, 2024 2:39 AM |
"Who's going to honor democracy, and who's going to honor Donald Trump?" THE quote of the debate.
by Anonymous | reply 543 | October 2, 2024 2:39 AM |
When you’re the only one arguing with the moderators, you’ve basically lost the debate by default.
It’s the opposite of poise.
by Anonymous | reply 544 | October 2, 2024 2:39 AM |
JD Vance not answering the question of who won the 2020 election will be the morning, afternoon, and evening news soundbite of this debate.
by Anonymous | reply 545 | October 2, 2024 2:39 AM |
I'm over this now. Wrap it up ladies.
by Anonymous | reply 546 | October 2, 2024 2:39 AM |
Does JD have three kids? I need to know!
by Anonymous | reply 547 | October 2, 2024 2:39 AM |
These things should only be an hour long. I can't listen to either one of them for another minute. For now, I'll wait to see what the polls show about who won.
by Anonymous | reply 548 | October 2, 2024 2:40 AM |
Yes, R543, that's the clip.
by Anonymous | reply 549 | October 2, 2024 2:40 AM |
I don't think Walz has a mean gene like Trump and Vance.
by Anonymous | reply 550 | October 2, 2024 2:40 AM |
This commercial break would have been a good time for the Democrats to run some footage of the Jan 6th insurrection.
by Anonymous | reply 551 | October 2, 2024 2:41 AM |
[quote] For now, I'll wait to see what the polls show about who won.
Because you need to be told, R548?
by Anonymous | reply 552 | October 2, 2024 2:41 AM |
Trump is going to be livid about Vance's performance tonight. He comes across as a bit weak and namby pamby. Plus he is being gracious at moments to Walz which Trump will see as very weak, very very weak.
by Anonymous | reply 553 | October 2, 2024 2:41 AM |
[quote] [R461], most insurance companies have a specific amount they will pay out for a procedure. The hospital can charge $10,000 for a procedure but if it's capped at $2,000 that's the amount they will accept.
And who pays that difference? The hospital doesn't just eat that $8K difference. AND ALSO... does that damn procedure even cost $2000??
[quote] [R461], many people in the U.S. live in an area where there are no health care choices, at least within 50 miles. Regardless, when a person needs an appendectomy, price shopping is not an option because they are in an emergency room with the option of an emergency operation or die.
That's why I included "Elective Procedure" in my original post. But to add onto that... the idea of real knowledge about hospital costs is scary. Anyone who has had surgery has received a bill that probably reads like the DOD Budget: all sorts of inscrutable line items with values attached that NONE of us laypeople could ever decide is real.
All I'm saying is that some transparency about costs, and being able to apply that contrast across different providers, when able, would deal the first of many death knells to the current Insurance/HMO/Healthcare Goliath.
by Anonymous | reply 554 | October 2, 2024 2:41 AM |
R547 - not only does he have them, but apparently they're beautiful.
by Anonymous | reply 555 | October 2, 2024 2:42 AM |
At first I was nervous Walz was failing but he held the line and systematically destroyed Vance and even better, Trump. He came across as sane and professional. Vance, although coming across as composed, really talked about nothing. It was like Jada Essance Hall's LOOK OVER THERE" act.
by Anonymous | reply 556 | October 2, 2024 2:42 AM |
MAGAts and FOX will say Vance wiped the floor with Walz; Dems and MSNBC will say that Walz won decisively. The rest of America was watching the MLB playoffs. And undecideds are liars.
by Anonymous | reply 557 | October 2, 2024 2:42 AM |
Nice way to wrap an anchor around your neck while swimming, when you extol having the political support of nutcase RFK, Jr.
LOL
by Anonymous | reply 558 | October 2, 2024 2:42 AM |
I wouldn't pay much attention to the instant poll response. I suspect over the next few days it will gradually sink in, and be made to sink in, that Vance was saying ridiculous shit about ACA, about "peaceful transfer" and every real policy question, and he will lose this badly. Just in time for the election.
by Anonymous | reply 559 | October 2, 2024 2:42 AM |
[quote]I thought the debate was supposed to be 90 minutes?
The moderators allowed Jaydine to ramble on for too long. His mic should have been muted multiple times.
by Anonymous | reply 560 | October 2, 2024 2:43 AM |
The debate will change nothing.
They both did well but Walz got in the most quotable zingers.
by Anonymous | reply 562 | October 2, 2024 2:44 AM |
JD will say anything. That much is clear. If Trump loses, I don’t see him getting far in the Republican Party. He will support Dem positions to win a debate point. Then swing back to far-far right positions the next day to win the Fox News audience. He’s said a lot of words. I still don’t have any idea what he actually believes.
My take away is that he’s an angry man, a liar, a desperate power hungry climber and he has 3 kids.
by Anonymous | reply 563 | October 2, 2024 2:44 AM |
Positivity!
Yes. Plus optimism.
by Anonymous | reply 564 | October 2, 2024 2:44 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 565 | October 2, 2024 2:44 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 566 | October 2, 2024 2:44 AM |
[quote]Vance, although coming across as composed, really talked about nothing. It was like Jada Essance Hall's LOOK OVER THERE" act.
Vance really did not answer a single question. "Kamala Harris's open border" was his response to everything.
by Anonymous | reply 567 | October 2, 2024 2:45 AM |
LOL Tim Walz just destroyed him over democracy and JD wants to close talking about energy!?
by Anonymous | reply 568 | October 2, 2024 2:45 AM |
More from Jonathan Weisman:
[quote] If you are just joining us, you may have missed one exchange where Tim Walz clearly got the better of JD Vance. The question was whether Donald Trump's refusal to cede power after losing the 2020 election was a threat to democracy. Vance’s answer, somehow, was the accusation that Kamala Harris is silencing people on social media. “Kamala Harris is engaged in censorship at an industrial scale,” he said. It took a while for Walz to get his footing, but he eventually drove the point home that the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and other violence that day, including a march on the governor’s mansion in Minnesota, was far more serious than questioning posts on Facebook. “To deny what happened on Jan. 6, the first time an American president or anyone tried to overturn an election” was serious is unacceptable, he said. “This has got to stop. It’s tearing our country apart.”
by Anonymous | reply 569 | October 2, 2024 2:45 AM |
R553 Trump's a psychopath, he's always livid.
by Anonymous | reply 570 | October 2, 2024 2:46 AM |
Bonkers of JD Vance to claim to be a job creator after what he did to Amy Adams’ career
by Anonymous | reply 571 | October 2, 2024 2:46 AM |
The only answer JD gave us was... "Yes, I heard you. I won't wear eyeliner tonight"
The only problem? The question was "Why do you wear eyeliner, JD? Why are you so WEIRD?!?"
by Anonymous | reply 572 | October 2, 2024 2:46 AM |
Trump may be a psychopath r570 but JD Vance is Trump's little sychophantic sociopath.
by Anonymous | reply 573 | October 2, 2024 2:47 AM |
JD puts even me to shame.
by Anonymous | reply 574 | October 2, 2024 2:47 AM |
When can I put my order in for one of Jaydine's government houses on the rim of the Grand Canyon?
by Anonymous | reply 575 | October 2, 2024 2:47 AM |
Who is that dark and dirty MUSLIM approaching my VP Candidate?!?!?
by Anonymous | reply 576 | October 2, 2024 2:48 AM |
If Vance's granny couldn't turn the 'heat on' when he was growing up, that's the fault of Reagan and Bush 41. Vance was born in 1984 - he only has Regan / Bush to blame in his childhood years.
by Anonymous | reply 577 | October 2, 2024 2:48 AM |
Will we need a continuation thread? Seems like we've said all there is to say...
by Anonymous | reply 578 | October 2, 2024 2:51 AM |
[quote] JD puts even me to shame
Yeah, but you still did it first, bitch!
by Anonymous | reply 579 | October 2, 2024 2:51 AM |
Was it REALLY a great idea for Vance to keep treating Harris like she’s already the President?
Power of incumbency, Jaydine.
by Anonymous | reply 580 | October 2, 2024 2:52 AM |
We've never had enough to say on any topic here on DL r578....
by Anonymous | reply 581 | October 2, 2024 2:52 AM |
The Times's Michael C. Bender:
[quote] Vance delivered some incredibly unique twists on a handful of the Republican ticket’s unpopular positions tonight. He described his anti-abortion position as a desire “to make it easier for moms to have babies.” On Trump’s failure to repeal Obamacare, Vance praised the former president for leaving health-care options in place for Americans. Asked about the Jan. 6 riot, he praised Trump for supposedly peacefully departing from the White House on Jan. 20.
by Anonymous | reply 582 | October 2, 2024 2:52 AM |
R578 there will be fact checking. CBS is fact checking claims as we speak.
by Anonymous | reply 583 | October 2, 2024 2:52 AM |
Vance talked as if his childhood was in some third world country and not in the US.
by Anonymous | reply 584 | October 2, 2024 2:52 AM |
More from Maggie Haberman:
[quote] Vance is going to get praise in public assessments for how he did; he came off not as fire-breathing but civil, even as he got in knocks on Walz. Now, we’ll see if Trump is comfortable letting Vance have the last word in a debate or if he feels compelled to appear again.
by Anonymous | reply 585 | October 2, 2024 2:53 AM |
Vance: "I meet people on the campaign trail who can't afford food."
That line made me laugh given how horizontally challenged many of Trump's supporters are.
by Anonymous | reply 586 | October 2, 2024 2:53 AM |
The Times's Kellen Browning:
[quote] Walz stumbled at the start of the debate but got better as it went on, defending his running mate’s policy proposals in the common-sense language that works for him on the trail. Still, Vance seemed to get the better of him in a number of exchanges. Walz’s strongest moment was the clash over Jan. 6.
by Anonymous | reply 587 | October 2, 2024 2:54 AM |
Trump will hate Shady's performance and say it was too weak.
by Anonymous | reply 588 | October 2, 2024 2:54 AM |
Especially R586 because he's built his whole thing on blue collar Ohio.
by Anonymous | reply 589 | October 2, 2024 2:55 AM |
I know, right, R575? Like people can live anywhere a house is. Never mind access to work food, transportation, education, and family/friends/support network.
by Anonymous | reply 590 | October 2, 2024 2:55 AM |
R585, Haberman is nuts if she thinks Dump will debate Harris a second time.
by Anonymous | reply 591 | October 2, 2024 2:55 AM |
[quote] Vance is going to get praise in public assessments for how he did
Yes, we know that will be the NYT line, as it always was going to be, but the rest of us, well, we shall see.
by Anonymous | reply 592 | October 2, 2024 2:55 AM |
I thought Walz got a lot in but yeah Vance, is slick. A better speaker and debater. Vance still gave some terrible answers. The biggest threat to democracy is really censorship... people cutting off family members over politics?
by Anonymous | reply 593 | October 2, 2024 2:55 AM |
More from Katie Glueck:
[quote] It is clear that Vance had the smoother debate. Whether that makes any difference in the minds of voters is less clear — and some pollsters have stressed that they do not expect this debate to move the dial.
by Anonymous | reply 594 | October 2, 2024 2:55 AM |
I learned tonight that Kamala Harris is to blame for everything bad that's ever happened.
by Anonymous | reply 595 | October 2, 2024 2:56 AM |
This debate will definitely not move the dial, R594. I wonder what the ratings even were.
by Anonymous | reply 596 | October 2, 2024 2:56 AM |
The pundits on CBS are already stating that Kamala Harris will be using footage from this debate in her ads by the end of the week regarding JD Vance's inability to say whether or not Trump lost the election.
by Anonymous | reply 597 | October 2, 2024 2:58 AM |
Fact check: JD claimed he had a friend who had an abortion. Total lie. He has no friends.
by Anonymous | reply 598 | October 2, 2024 2:58 AM |
600.
by Anonymous | reply 600 | October 2, 2024 3:00 AM |
Lawrence O’Donnell: “Vance is the first vice presidential candidate in history not to know who won the last election.”
by Anonymous | reply 601 | October 2, 2024 3:00 AM |
"Smoother" to the point of being as blatantly phony as his makeup.
by Anonymous | reply 602 | October 2, 2024 3:00 AM |
Mein Fuhrer, R599, see R558.
by Anonymous | reply 603 | October 2, 2024 3:01 AM |
I meant R561.
by Anonymous | reply 604 | October 2, 2024 3:01 AM |
I only caught the last half hour or so of the debate. Did Walz at any point mention Vance's statement that he's perfectly willing to make up stories (like the immigrants eating pets thing) in order to get press coverage? Because, to me, that's the sort of outrageous statement that in and of itself should lose the election for these Rethuglicans.
by Anonymous | reply 605 | October 2, 2024 3:02 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 606 | October 2, 2024 3:16 AM |
I think on substance Vance lost, but on presentation he won. Confident, not crazy, at ease.
by Anonymous | reply 607 | October 2, 2024 1:26 PM |