Methusalah and others who lived 100s of years in the Bible

No.

There's no scientific evidence to support the claim that most of those Old Testament dudes lived at all.

Jesus, OP -- you must be bored.

Get out of that rabbit hole you’re currently in, OP.

It’s all bullshit. Relax.

But who calls that livin’ when no gal will give in to no man what’s nine hundred years?

Not meant to be taken literally is how it was explained to me.

It's like reading Grimm's Fairy Tales. Maybe at some point some of these people existed but the tales have long been exaggerated or made up.

Also I have so many questions about Noah and the ark and how did the ocean cover all the land everywhere?

I suspect it was actually meant to be taken literally by the original authors r6, well some of it. Some was symbolic. There's one guy who supposedly lived 365 years, which I assume is a mangling of a sun god myth about the sun living 365 days.

And yes there is a lot of symbolism in the Bible of course, but big sections are supposed to be exactly what they say they are. They just happen to be completely and often ridiculously wrong, and now modern Christians are left floundering around pretending they mean something else.

No. . .

R8, the story of Noah was told by people who lived along the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, which was the world as they knew it. Although it was a catastrophic flood, it did not engulf the entire planet.

It was an old story that dates back 1000s of years before the Bible. Yes the names were changed and other minor details.

Is there any evidence of a massive world wide flood 5000-6000-7000 years ago?

Actually yes

what evidence r12? and really, worldwide?

Maybe they were vampires 🧛

R13

Scientific evidence. :-)

Define world wide? My sources say it was a whole shitload of wide spread flooding,

Of course gods coming to earth to fuck human women and virgin births did not start with the Bible either.

what sources r15? And I mean worldwide in the conventional sense, happening in China and Europe and Africa and the Americas and Australia all at the same time and in the same way. I don't mean, weelllll, there was a flood in the Middle East and a thousand years later a big flood in China and a thousand years later a flood in what's now Central America. Yes, big floods happen and they lead to big flood myths that pop up a lot, but none of them trace back to some worldwide flood captured in the Bible.

Is there any credible documentation of a young girl narrowly escaping the home of a bear family after raiding their kitchen, sitting on their furniture, and wallowing on their mattresses? I'm hoping to find press clippings or certified eyewitness accounts. My local library has been little help.

R16 the story of the great flood predates the Bible by 1000s of years. The Christian’s did not make that story up it looks like they stole it.

A story handed down thru time.its not my story and I make no claim any flood happened. Others think it did..

yes, I agree with that r18. The authors of that part of the bible probably get it from the Babylonians who probably get it from the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh, which was written about 4000 years ago and of course may be older than that as a story. But that's just it. There is no worldwide flood to trace back to, maybe just some big flooding of the Euphrates river or maybe just a what if story asking what if ALL these floods we go through constantly on this big damn river happened at once and everyone drowned except one guy and his wife who got to repopulate the earth.

Well fine, it's an interesting story. Nothing else. Not some memory of a worldwide event preserved forever.

The Indigenous peoples of the west coast of Canada, where I am, also have Great Flood stories. I’ve read it could come from tales of the flooding following the end of the last Ice Age, when ice dams gave way and water innundated previously dry land, etc.

R19 exactly what picture do you think people had in the year 3742 bc about the nature of what constitutes the whole world?

R29

And I am voting that the story of the great flood is true based on peoples understanding of the world they lived in at the time. 1000s ifbyears before the Bible took the story up. What they saw was to them a world wide flood.

you seem very invested in suggesting the flood never happened. Something to do with 7th grade and nuns?

OP, like almost all that is written in the Bible it's just a bunch of fairy tales, exaggerations, and outright lies. Written and re-written over the centuries to keep gullible people terrified for their very souls unless they kept the faith, which means keeping up their tithes with the church.

Okay, but all you're saying r21 is people were wrong about what the world was and anybody clinging to that story now as some big history of the world is being a jackass and a fool. On that, we agree.

And yes, the "worldwide flood" your mysterious sources imagine happened, didn't in fact happen and they should stop being dingbats clinging to a false view of the history of the world. For their own sakes. Don't embrace the stupid. Reject the stupid and go on from there. Yes, people thousands of years ago were wrong about a thing. Great, fine, no need to care. It only really matters if people cling desperately to their old tales as some inane Word of God.

R24 See I knew it was about nuns and 7th grade. You are invested . A fallen Catholic.

The world 5000-6000 years ago allegedly saw long periods of great flooding. Sorry to say that may be the source of the Bible story,

The story may be fucking true :-)

Fine, tell yourself whatever nonsense myths you need to get through the day r25. Obviously you are on that level of development, and I guess it works for you on some level.

The story isn't true, but I get that you are not yet capable of dealing with that.

I don't know about Noah but there was a flood. The Sphinx shows evidence that it was once underwater.

Not a flood r27, many, many floods in various times and places.

R26 my dear fallen Catholic friend what story is not true?

. There were floods. There was massive flooding. The floods were real. The ice melted. The stories are real, and the stories got passed down from generation to generation.

And this upsets you exactly why?

This does not upset me r29. The fact that there have been many floods in many places in the long history of this world does not upset me. The fact that all stories about these floods do not trace back to some magical worldwide flood doesn't upset me either, but it seems to upset you on some level. Why?

You're just a mayfly to us, OP.

R30 I am not upset I am making fun of an obvious fallen Catholic who is upset that something in the Bible might be based on fact even if that fact happened 1000s of years before the Bible. True not true I don’t care even a little.

Those nuns did a fucking job on you.

I will now pray for your soul :-)

It's in the bible, so it must be true.

That's all the evidence you need, heathen.

Hey asshole lighten up floods happen. Lots of floods happened. Giant floods happened in 4221 and 4220 bc. Grow up .

Thank you for your prayers r32. I have a prayer for you. That you will recognize that there was no Noah, no worldwide flood, no God who told everybody about this so they could record it for posterity, no need to cling to something in the Bible just because it's in the Bible, and that often people put things in the Bible just because they wanted to and not because of any actual historical event.

And actually, I have not really had much interaction with nuns, but I did get to know one fairly well. She was a very intelligent woman, a missionary who had actually traveled to a lot of places and learned many flood myths. She did not believe in some worldwide flood.

Is there any scientific evidence to support the claim that some people lived hundreds of year?

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R35 friend sadly I don’t give a shit about the Bible. You are wasting your anti Bible rants on me. Pro or con it's just not my issue. It is yours though and I respect that.

I do hope someone will come along soon and have a good Bible argument with you because that person is not me.

Bless you

Well, I'm not sure about that, r37, I suspect you care a lot more about the Bible than you say. Regardless, there is no need to keep arguing about this myth with you. On that you are correct.

Blessed be.

Did they even count a full year back in those days as 365 days? Maybe to them a year was much shorter which could have lead to these outlandish claims of long lives.

R38 nope not at all. If it were not for threads like this and the pro or anti Bible fanatics like yourself I’d never ever think of the Bible.

Floods I believe in

Look - here we go again with picking and choosing what's literal and what's metaphorical in the Bible.

You either believe Methusaleh lived to 969, that Jonah lived in a whale, that Jesus fed thousands with 1 loaf of bread and 1 fish - or you don't.

So your take away should be that there were a fucking lot of miracles or it's all bullshit and story telling.

The count is based on lunar months.

I suspect they meant what they wrote r39. We need to lose this idea that people who wrote the Bible cared about history and reality and biography and real facts as we would try to write about them. To them, fact were just symbolic things that could be used to convey some idea that people had ridiculously long lives once upon a time, then they pissed off God, and God killed all of them with one big flood, except Noah and his family, and now we all suck with our stupid short lives cause our ancestors once pissed off God. That is the idea. Don't piss off God, stop sucking, cause you won't like the result.

R42 - and you know this for certain - how?

R43 - According to the Hebrew Bible, Methuselah begets Lamech and then lives 782 more years. When Lamech is 182 he begets Noah, and the Genesis Flood comes when Noah is 600 years old.[6] This would imply that Methuselah dies the year of the Flood.

So Methuselah was killed off during the Flood? Stop trying to make sense of this bullshit. Jesus - you guys wrap yourselves into pretzels trying to defend this made-up shit.

R42 Real facts as we would try to write them? :-)

2024 the year of real facts as written by msnbc, Fox, QAnon, brietbart, NYT, NY Daily Hews, NYPost, the rest of social media ——so many ways the people in 3672 will know what real facts were like in 2024.

Yeah, that old guy Noah. Just how did he acquire 2 of all the animals on the planet to save on that Ark? Most of the animals that would have been on the Ark did not even live anywhere near where he was. Many lived on the other side of the earth. To me, the story of Noah and the flood is possibly the biggest bit of BS in the Bible.

So, if Noah's family was the only one to survive, where did all the different races come from?

Some of you read the Bible as literally as backwoods Baptists.

In the US in 1952 doctors were advertising cigarettes as being good for your nerves and good for your throat.

And we expect total accuracy in news accounts that have come to be passed down generation after generation from societies over 3000 maybe 4000 years ago,

If one blocks the thin-skinned this thread is mostly common sense.

[quote] 2024 the year of real facts as written by msnbc, Fox, QAnon, brietbart, NYT, NY Daily Hews, NYPost, the rest of social media

I suspect you're trying to do some gotcha there, but in a way you're right. Just as Fox truly, completely doesn't give a fuck whether Haitians are eating dogs and cats, they just need to you to believe it so you vote for Trump, those old priests completely don't care if there was ever a Methusaleh or a Lamech or a Noah or how old anybody was when they died. They just need you to believe there was some amazing lifespan people had before they pissed God off, so you get in fucking line and stop pissing off God (or at least stop pissing over the priests, which is kind of the same thing to them).

R46 - it really is portrayed like some petting zoo, where they're walking all these beasts up a plank to the boat. It's ridiculous - children's fiction. And they fed them all - what? Hay?

Sweetie...you ok?

[quote] Sweetie...you ok?

Who? Are you taking some kind of roll call? What is happening here? Who is the sweetie and why do you need to know if they are okay?

[quote]And yes there is a lot of symbolism in the Bible of course,

It was all intended to be literal it was written and rehashed by primitive people. They actually believed all of that bullshit. Saying it is symbolic is giving them waaaaay too much credit.

R55 - and if it was "God-inspired" or written by God, then why the symbolism and inconsistencies. God needs an editor - because the Bible is full of plot holes and stuff that doesn't make sense.

I mean - from the very start - on the first fucking page, there are two different creation versions. Imagine listening in...oh this is gonna be good - ok, background, setting the scene, right. 3 minutes later - wait, what? I thought you said X was created on the fifth day? Wait - wait - wait - reread that again. Ok - this is totally different than what you said 5 minutes ago.

Wait - where are you taking me? I'm just asking a question - you all heard it right? He said on Day 3 the sun and moon was created - then he said on Day 3 that land and plants were created.

R51 you think I might be playing gotcha but you are not sure but you think I am right anyway. ( I will take that as a win)

If the floods, some argue against so hard, were 5000 years ago then I wonder how our history today is looked at 5000 years from now. I bet those people will spend lots of time laughing their ass off at the stupid things we think are absolutely true today,

I think it’s interesting that the Bible is so important to you even if you spend your time attacking it. Most people don’t think of it much at all. And almost no sane people spend their time arguing about it.

OBVIOUSLY, years got longer as the universe got older. Like penises.