John Leguizamo Flips Script On Right-Wing 'DEI Hire' Insult At Emmys

Latinx actor!!!! Oh the humanity.

He's annoying woke twat.

And you played an Italian with a fake accent in Super Mario Bros., you virtue signaling douche. Where’s your apology for that? Or do only certain ethnic groups get to complain when actors play them?

Yes, how many times has he played Italian?

PS he does not look Italian at all.

Was the tired little Latin boy crying?

I get it now! He spoke truth. When truth is damning and difficult the speaker is deemed "woke."

Said in a room of 99.9% nepo babies

[quote] He's annoying woke twat.

Define "woke", troll.

R7 is Hannah Einbinder

I get the impression this show was non-stop politics?

Now you're hot! Now you're not!

I wasn’t paying much attention but I think he was the only one. Most realize the lectures won’t help the Dems In November.

What's annoying about him is that he talks about being just a poor latin kid from Queens. Reality is he was born in Bogota, Colombia - his grandfather was a wealthy landowner there and his g-g-grandfather was the mayor of Bogota.

His father was an aspiring film director and studied with some of the greats a Cincecitta in Rome during its heyday of the 1960's. I'm pretty sure his father had a bigger impact on him in terms of acting, film direction, etc. - but he never talks about it.

This isn't an average immigrant background - at all. He has purposefully removed all of that - and no, you can't tell me he had no idea.

Didn't he used to claim to be Puerto Rican?

R7: Ironically if you remove the nepo baby privilege which benefits predominately wealthy white children, you’d achieve greater diversity in the industry.

R14 I sort of recall that.

I love him sometimes. He is so right. Though he’s not Puerto Rican like he thought he was for years. He’s Colombian actually.

I rented that tux he is wearing for my Senior Prom in 1977.

He's correct

There are many more better looking Latino actors, but they didn't get the chances he did. He must be doing something right.

Stick to acting. No one cares what these famous and rich show people think about anything. Next!

R20 Talent? Acting talent?

R17 - I don't buy that he thought he was Puerto Rican. He was born in Colombia - to what - a Puerto Rican immigrant to Colombia?

How do you NOT have a Puerto Rican accent, not make PR foods, have no stories about the island of Puerto Rico and try to tell your kid you're Puerto Rican?

Plus he was SENT to live with relatives in Colombia for a year when he was a teenager. Did he not learn of his grandparent's wealth? Or how his g-g-gfather was the mayor?

This all sounds like he was caught in a lie. His father's quote in 2011 when Leguizamo was head of PR parade: "It hurts me that John is lying to the Puerto Ricans and not backing up his Colombian roots," he told the newspaper."

His whole shtick of being a poor immigrant Puerto Rican is completely false. He also can't get his birth year right - 1960 or 1964, depending on who's asking.

Then he claims he was one of the only Latino kids at his school in Queens - in the late 1960s. By 1970, there were over 900,000 Puerto Rican immigrants to NYC area - including Queens. That's only PR immigrants. The chance of him being one of the only Latino kids is very small.

He's a flat out liar - he probably did some of this to draw attention to his one-man shows. Ok - fair enough. But c'mon - stop LYING.

I wonder why Leguizamo didn't bring up Carey Mulligan in Maestro in his speech. He complained quite a bit when she was cast for that movie.

Sarah Silverman bitched up a storm when Kathryn Hahn was cast to play Joan Rivers in a mini-series and she said it was "Jewface". Yet, Silverman was fine and dandy with Bradley Cooper playing in Bernstein in Maestro.

Ok - I went down a rabbit hole here - but apparently there was a lot of Colombian immigration to Jackson Heights (where Leguizamo lived most of his childhood) in the 1950s then ramped up a lot more in the 1960s. Usually they were middle class and wealthier businessmen from Colombia.

There were so many immigrants that a section of Jackson Heights was called Little Colombia. Tell me how the heck he was one of the only Latino kids - and how he thought he was Puerto Rican when both parents were born in Colombia, he was born in Colombia and he lived in a neighborhood called Little Colombia?

It's just annoying to hear people claim they're from nothing or who are somebody they are not - to the extend that he was the head of the Puerto Rican parade in NYC! He acts like he came up with uneducated parents who knew nothing of the acting/film world - when the exact opposite was true.

There’s noble about what he said. He’s only looking to force studios to hire him to make their quota, rather than him having to audition and be the best person for a role.

He has played so many roles that were not of his ethnicity during his career. If Hollywood would only cast people based on their race and ethnic background he would not have a career today.

The PLANE! The PLANE!

Is he still pretending to be Puerto Rican, using Latinx, and demanding to play an Italian?

He’s a jerk off.

This asshole has the nerve to play the diversity game after doing yellowface. Fuck him. He’s another Rachel Dolezal suffering from obvious mental illness.

R23 Leguizamo will probably never stop lying because the mainstream media isn't going to call out his BS claims in a big way. If they will call him out they would be vilified.

Eva Longoria is similar to Leguizamo in that she makes a lot of dumb fuck claims about language and culture and journalists never call her out on things. Longoria grew up in Texas, but ignores the fact that some Mexican Americans aren't all that comfortable with undocumented immigrants and she also never talks about the fact that many Latinos are Border Patrol agents. She is never going to own up to the fact Trump has Latino supporers. Longoria claims that the United States is only country promotes monolingualism and she spouted this BS years ago on MSNBC. The US doesn't have an official language and many government agency websites at both federal and state levels are offered in Spanish and other languages. Many public high schools and colleges require foreign language credits for diplomas and degrees. Longoria's US monolingualism claims are total bullshit.

r32 Calm down

Biting the hand that fed him by boycotting last year’s Super Mario Bros. Movie

“Too bad they went all white! No Latinx in the leads!”

I think every time the term Latinx gets used. Trump gets another vote.

When did all award shows become about people's problems? John Leguizamo didn't work with any Latinx actors, Greg Berlanti didn't see gays kissing on tv, etc. Get a shrink, don't give a televised woke lecture.

Many Latinos, are real Latins and can play any role as French or Italian. Leguizamo is Latino, but not Latin. Christian Levy is both, Latino and Latin, Ana de Armas is both, Latina and Latin, Jennifer Lopez is Latina but not Latin. Javier bardem and Antonio banderas are latins but not Latinos.

I hope that you understand the difference. These people in the picture below are ALL considered “Latinos” in the US , get a clue.

This lady is also a Latina in the US as the people shown above. See the difference.

John Leguizamo has recognized he isn’t fully Puerto Rican. He thought one of his parents was half Puerto Rican. I don’t know why yall tripping. Most Colombians in New York are not white Colombians. They are mixed race or Afro. White Colombians in New York are a minority amongst Colombians.

Would John be willing to work with JoAnna Garcia Swisher in a Latino movie or tv project?

Or, maybe Julie Gonzalo

Whatever he is, he spoke too long.

His criticism of new Mario Bros was foolish but he told no lies last night. New York stand up. All my Latinos, Caribbeans, black Americans stand up. We grow up in the same neighborhoods in that big beautiful jungle and we don’t see race like the rest of America. Many of our Jewish and Italian brothers don’t see race like the rest of America. New York is the greatest city in the world.

Brando started this shit when he sent a fake Indian to stand in his place.

[quote] John Leguizamo has recognized he isn’t fully Puerto Rican.

He’s not Puerto Rican AT ALL.

[quote]I wonder why Leguizamo didn't bring up Carey Mulligan in Maestro in his speech. He complained quite a bit when she was cast for that movie.

Felicia Bernstein was of European Spanish heritage from her mother and her father was an American Jew. She was not Mestizo/mixed race Latina at all. Leguizamo was so full of shit and just wanted some publicity.

Misappropriation of ethnicity. Let's cancel Leguizamo.

He sounds exhausting.

He's been tedious lately.

He's still sexy

María Conchita Alonso is Cuban American

“He was always of Puerto Rican heritage, and he was only promoting Puerto Rican heritage. I didn’t know he was Colombian until a number of years ago, when he happened to turn Colombian, and now he wants to be known as Colombian. So I don’t know, is he Puerto Rican or is he Colombian?”

“I respect either one, but he obviously doesn’t, because he was Puerto Rican all the way, and then all of a sudden he made a turn and he went – he became a Colombian person. I think somebody should look into that too.”

I thought his words were very appropriate.

Latinos have often played whites or Europeans with no controversey. Would he call that Latino privilege?

Cameron Diaz should've played Evita!

Evita was half Spanish and half French, she had no mixed Native/African blood.

R3 he also played Italian in Summer of Sam.

Mario Cantone talks about the double standard of Latinos playing Italians, starting at 16:13.

If American anglos can play Russian or german on tv so should Latinos play Italians as long as they have the southern European appearance.

R58 I am fan of his and he’s right BUT I will say this outside that show he prolly saw in the Village you do not see Latinos playing Italian Americans in mainstream stuff like that. That’s a croc of shit and he knows it.

^^John Leguizamo has played Italian Americans in mainstream stuff, among others. Idiot.

r60 do you always type as if you're barely literate?

R62 Uh oh, shots fired. I posted without commas and spelling adverbs out phonetically as if in conversation. I must be a dummy.

Bla bla bla.

He's such a mouth.

^^Yes, a dummy. You come across as very ignorant and low class.

He's the Latino version of an aggrieved MAGA.

I’d like to have sex with him.

r63 You pronounce probably as "prolly?"

R68 Yes dear, often.

Hey I'ma gonna axe yous a question

R70 Shoot, my scrupulous cunt.

Blacks don't use the word cunt.

r69 All that education really came in handy, huh?

Leave it DL to stipulate how black speak based on mass generalizations. I am not a regular black man. For one I’m gay.

r74 "I am not a regular black man."

Oh, sweetheart, we know.

Omg this man never stops preaching.

In that speech he willfully ignores the commercialism of film and art - they need to put asses in seats and to sell a movie with NAME stars.

Natalie Wood (who was RUSSIAN by the way) was hot after Splendor in the Grass. They needed a name for this movie - Rita Moreno was not well known and played smaller parts.

This was also back in the 'star system' of building stars and casting them to further careers. It's not like it is today.

The Latino population as a percentage of total population in 1960 was around 3% of the total population - nothing close to what it is today. The Asian population was much smaller - not even 1%.

Bring grievances over actors who played Latinos SIXTY YEARS AGO is fine if to say how things have progressed. NO doubt many POC actors have had to read for stereotypical roles.

But y'know I don't see a lot of gays and lesbians portrayed regularly in film or TV very much - even to this day. Do we bitch and moan over it? Do we not know that most great gay roles have been played by straight people?

There is no way the Latino population was only 3% in 1960. No way.

R78 - look it up and provide receipts instead of just shaking your head. Idiot.

This guy seriously complained about Pacino playing a cuban when he's played italian americans?

Also what's whats with the idea that every latino role has to be played by mestizos? There are quite a few ethnically white latino/hispanic people out there.

I'm not saying he's wrong that white people probably have more access to more varied roles, it's what happens in a still majorily white country. But him waxing poetic about the " diverse nominees" bothers the fuck out of me, the issue is in the lack of roles, not in who is nominated. Next time a latino/hispanic person gets nominated he/she could likely think its for the optics and to fill a quota and that's not exactly empowering.

[quote] you do not see Latinos playing Italian Americans in mainstream stuff like that. That’s a croc of shit and he knows it.

Andy Garcia played an Italian American in The Godfather Part III

Andy Garcia has southern European Mediterranean looks,, even more so Sicilian and Napolitanean. No italian should be offended when someone is accurately portraying them, Leguizamo on the other hand does not look Mediterranean and does not match the southern Italian appearance.

I understand that Leguizamo is up for the title role in the biopic Charo: My Story.

I hear that his cuchi-cuchi is spot on.

Do his people eat neighbors' pets?

[quote]Also what's whats with the idea that every latino role has to be played by mestizos? There are quite a few ethnically white latino/hispanic people out there.

There are Spanish/Latino people who could pass for Anglo/Nordic.

Well they wouldnt be passing at all. They WOULD be Anglo/Nordic ...just in latin american form.

Americans need to decide if "latino" is a race , an ethnicity or simply the way people from latin america identify. I'm hispanic white and it's always a lulu trying to know what the fuck box to check.

Hispanic/latino in the US

I’m entering my third decade of watching John Leguizamo not quite catch on.

Hialeah Cuban Latino cop.

Hialeah Garden police graduation with 3 Cuban graduates.

I will say this for Juancito, he has aged well. He looks great. Still as annoying as an ass pimple

[quote]Well they wouldnt be passing at all. They WOULD be Anglo/Nordic ...just in latin american form.

No, they wouldn't be Anglo/Nordic since they are not of Anglo/Nordic heritage.

r89 Eddie Rodriguez could pass for Sean O'Malley.

Another Cuban Hispanic Latino cop in Hialeah of southern European appearance

Al Pacino really ruined Scarface with his performance. He really wrecked that movie, said no one ever.

Pacino's performance is the best thing about Scarface. Yet Leguizamo would've tossed him aside because he's of the wrong ethnic background, even though many Cubans, especially those who fled Cuba at that point were of European descent (sometimes 100%) like Pacino. But of course Leguizame is not a historian or even knowledgable about what he is speaking about.

The suit is hideous.

That man is clearly a very mixed mestizo or mulatto, R94. The image below shows how Southern European people look - yes, these are celebrities, but they are not far from the average in terms of features and skin/hair/eye colour. The idea that many people in the US appear to have regarding the appearance of Southern European people is beyond absurd. many of you seem to believe that we're indistinguishable from American Indians and Arabs.

Regarding John Leguizamo, I don't doubt that as a clearly mestizo man he has faced discrimination in the US (although I have reservations regarding the extent of the discrimination he has faced, given his family history and celebrity status), but the fact that he feels entitled to lecture people about tolerance while blaming all white people for racial prejudice, and is demanding that only Latin actors play Latin roles, is downright dishonest, as he has played roles that were not defined by his true ethnicity, as many people in here have stated. Some people appear to revel in the assumption of a perpetual victim role based on a specific characteristic, and relish the fact that they can use this "protected" status to threaten others with ostracization if they dare to disagree with them at any level. This ought to be classed as a misuse of power, rather than a display of bravery that ought to be celebrated.

R91 - he sure does for someone 60...eerr....64? No 60...um 64?

Oh I forgot about my fellow Cubano Andy. Such a hot daddy.

[quote]The idea that many people in the US appear to have regarding the appearance of Southern European people is beyond absurd. many of you seem to believe that we're indistinguishable from American Indians and Arabs.

Very true. Southern Euorpeans are still undeniably "European" in appearance. Americans have weird ideas about race and ethnicity.

If the role calls for a Mestizo Latino, then yes a Mestizo Latino should play it. But if the role calls for a Latino of pure Spanish blood, anyone of European heritage should be able to play it.

Europeans look very much alike and they're all interrelated. There were so many invasions and migrations over hundreds and hundreds of years they all got DNA from someone else.

There are Spanish people who could pass for Irish, Irish people who could pass for Spanish etc. etc.

Before WWII, my mother dated a black actor named Frank Silvera. They stayed in touch over the years. By today's standards, he was not light-skinned but more medium-skinned. He did, however, have very caucasian features. He moved from Boston to New York City, where he appeared in many plays, including on Broadway, where he always played the Latino/Italian/Sicilian/Spanish/Polynesian roles and was quite successful. He moved to Los Angeles and had a very good career in both movies and television. The role I remember him for the most was as the villainous local administrator in The Miracle of Our Lady of Fatima.

He did not hide the fact that he was black. He founded a few local black theaters in NY and LA and helped to sponsor upcoming black actors. When asked about playing all these various non-black people of color, he said that he went for the part, and the directors, producers, and agents decided what he could or couldn't be. He didn't feel he was taking a role away from another actor but simply being the best actor for the role. It was a different time, and that's how things worked. His love was always on the stage, and there he thrived in many black parts.

Look at the actress Juanita Hall for a similar experience.

R87 that guy is not mestizo or mulato, that phenotype is abundant in the canary island, Islas baleares, Malta, Sicilia, and Nápoles. even in southern France.

R92 what heritage would they be? Certainly european? Or do you know many blonde blue eyed mestizos?

They would be Spanish r104. There are Spanish people who look Anglo/Nordic. Just look at the Telenovelas FFS.

OP- In your photo he looks like an aging fairy.

So....european? Btw latinos, even white ones, don't have necessarily spanish blood. They can be of any country in Europe.

Most mediterranean europeans aren't blonde and blue eyed, but sure, there are some. Usually because they have some Nordic blood too.

T R105

Latinos are of Spanish blood. South Americans of other European blood are not Latinos.

R95 likewise was watching a video a few weeks back of some idiot naming offensive historically inaccurate films and he was trashing Brando for brownfacing in Viva Zapata and what a bad movie it was (guy was an IDIOT and ofc white as snow) and there were several mexicans/mexican americans blasting him, saying they still considered it a great movie, that it was a source of pride that Brando had played Zapata and that the film meant alot to them.

R109 that has got to be the most ignorant American thing I have read in a while.

Latinos are Latin Americans....that's what we call ourselves....now just because race obsessed americans have made it exclusively something about race, that's on you.

r111 Latinos are of Spanish origin. Other South Americans of other European heritage are not Latino. This is common knowledge. Gisele Bundchen, for example, is Brazilian but not Latina.

R112 if that were true then all Cubans of russian and Eastern European ancestry, all of which are blond and with blue eyes would not be considered Latinos on US documents.

R112 thank you for telling me what I, as A LATIN FUCKING AMERICAN am.

Shut UP man. Idgaf what you call it in the US. In Latin American we consider ourselves Latino. Because we are from fucking Latin American.

R112 OMG no. Latino = Latin American. This is the common, universal definition found everywhere except apparently your brain.

Anyone from Latin America, no matter family ancestry, is considered Latino. No matter if their family heritage is Spanish, German, or Bulgarian.

Damn, he is very sexy

r112 god you are an idiot - how embarrassing

It's common knowledge that "Latino" is a person of South American heritage who has Spanish origins. WTF is wrong with you people?

Also, R118 they dont even need to have spanish blood. You could be a mestizo with german or french blood. You'd still be latino. Because latino means from latin america.

r117 you do nothing but hit and run shitposts in various threads. Your opinion is worthless. What a miserable creature you are.

Cuban cop in Hialeah with French and Italian look.

Has Lou Diamond Phillips ever been slammed for playing Ritchie Valens in La Bamba?

what a pest

^^andalay! andalay!

Is Batman half-Latino after going in the Lazarus pit?

To be fair - I had to look up what is defined as Latin America. I could swear way back years ago, in school they taught us that Latin America was the grouping of countries in the narrow strip between Mexico and South America. Like an in-between area between the two primary continents.

Now it's any Western Hemisphere nation with a romance language - which makes a lot more sense. That includes all Spanish, Portuguese, and French speaking countries - so Mexico all the way to the end of South America, plus most of the Carribbean islands.

Maybe I didn't pay attention that well and it's always been that way. But I think of Chile as South American - not Latin American - but it's both.

And for many in South America - there is no distinction between North and South America, it's just one continent - which makes no sense to me. So they also call themselves American - which is why they get pissed off at people in the United States using that term. I never understood this last part. 6 continent theory versus 7 continent.

The United States of America is the only nation with "America" in it name.

R127 - Agreed. That's why I find it offensive how they call us Estadio-Unidense - United States-ese, not Americans.

Mexico's formal name is the United Mexican States - and many other Latin American countries had or used to have United States of in their names.

It's the whole 6 continent theory which just blows my mind that it's an actual thing. How can you look at North America and South America and go - yep, just one big land mass?

R127 what if we changed to Cuba of America, Mexico of America etc would everyone be American then?

My ex met Leguizamo on a small afternoon women's show he was working on and said he was an asshole, full of demands on a tiny show that nobody watched, acting pissy toward the staff and even treating the hosts like shit.

R129 - no, only the United States of America has America in its name. United States doesn't designate a territory - just the structure of it. There is no "Cuba" of anything - it's not an adjective but a place.

So the Federative Republic of Brazil (official name) would mean that you would call its citizens Federative Republicans if you're using the same language to call people from USA 'estadio-unidense' - which is what most Spanish-speaking countries call Americans.

Again - it all comes from this weird idea that there are only 6 continents and no difference between North and South America. There's also people who believe Europe and Asia are one continent - Eurasia.

I think the North/South America as one continent is a holdover from Spanish colonialism when they had so much control over both continents that it just became one to them. But it's the reason why Latin American countries get so pissy about people from USA calling themselves American. Again - WE are the only ones with America in their name!

R131 bullshit , waaaay before the existence of the United States as a country there was already Mexico, and other American countries, in fact, half of the territory that was to be part of that new country called United States of America, were already developed with infrastructure and advanced economies with aqueduct, buildings and roads made by Spain.

Loooong before Americans called themselves Americans, the Hispanic world called themselves as such. The Anglos took over the name America. The United States OF America,”of” meaning the location of those unites states.

R132 - really before the US? The nation of Mexico was founded in 1821. And 'developed' is a wildly inaccurate term for what was in place in the western United States. Some outposts and missions, but don't call that immense infrastructure. There was considerably less development north of the Rio Grande than the rest of Latin America.

The Anglos actually have the NAME America in its formal name. None of the others. You all had your chance - oh that's right - you were still under Spanish rule and not yet independent countries when USA was created.

R17 is the transparent cosplay by Defacto of course. I love that he shows his black cosplay agreeing with this, and of course the black cosplay has to be signed “holierthanthou.”

Tells you everything you need to know about this creature, who should spend more time working and less time trolling the DL:

R128 first it's "Estado-unidense" second, why would you be offended? It's part of the countries name, in spanish being "Estados Unidos de America" . Why are you offended by people calling you the first half of the name but not the second half? Especially when it's to distinguish it from other American countries.

R135 - Again - read the replies above. We're the only country to formally have America in our name - like it or not. You don't go around calling Brazilians "Federal Republicans" and leave the Brazil off. (Formal name of Brazil is Federal Republic of Brazil).

You don't say Islamic Republicans when referring to Afghanistan. You don't call Mexicans "United Mexican States" people.

It's a purposeful dodge to use the word American. All based on the stupid 6 continent theory that North and South America is one continent.

Before the anglos had the guts of appropriating the name of our continent for themselves, there where only 6 continents., there is no such a thing as a North American and South American continents, otherwise the Caribbean would also have to be another continent to fit your criteria.

The Brazilians did not have the audacity of stealing the name of one entire continent for themselves.

[quote] How can you look at North America and South America and go - yep, just one big land mass?

It IS one big land mass, dork.

[quote] I think the North/South America as one continent is a holdover from Spanish colonialism when they had so much control over both continents that it just became one to them.

Spain never had colonies in the Americas. They were all viceroys.

R137/R138 - bullshit. By that theory, since Africa is connected to Asia through a narrow strip of land between the Mediterranean and the Gulf and the Red Sea, then Africa and Asia should be one continent.

Same idea - the two large land masses are only connected by a thin strip of land.

So you think Africa and Asia should be considered one continent?

Here's a map of tectonic plates - this would count as descriptive of large land masses which react to different tectonic plates movements, yes?

Arguably from this, one could say it's Eurasia - and Russia believes it is one continent and not two.

But I fail to see how that same logic can apply to clearly separate plates of land mass for N. America, S. America, Africa and Australia.

R140 sweetheart, the name America was actually the original name given to what is now South America. The Europeans didn’t even have a name to what is now North America. The oldest map in history only has the territory of South America as America.

Therefore, the real and original Americans are the Latinos not the Anglos. The anglos appropriated the name America from Latinos.

R142 - Yes - and it was used by a GERMAN man. The term Africa wasn't first used until the late 17th century. What's your point? Spain referred to its territories as Spanish America - and there was also a Portugese America as well. They didn't claim the word America for their own.

There are still 2 separate land masses by definition and by tectonic plates. There is a North and South America.

Nobody stopped anyone from using America in the naming of the countries when independence was gained from Spain or Portugal. But you didn't.

We didn't 'steal' anything.

You said it yourself, there was a Spanish America and a Portuguese America. So the word America was already used to identify people from South America until the anglos decided that the word sounded “cool”.

R145 - yes, because you act like Spain had claim to the word. There is still a North and South America - if you want to call yourself by your continent of origin, then North American or South American.

Whatever people thought of in 1507 is hardly ever used in modern times. Just because countries of former Spanish rule still want to teach a single America, it's just not geographically or geologically true.

Spain gave you authoritarian Catholicism, extreme inequailty with a wealthy landowning few leading to extreme corruption and a poor educational system. Almost universally across Latin America.

R146 I think that was the English who had the poorest education system and the most extreme inequality to the point that the Indians and blacks used to flee to the Spanish territories in North America. Spain founded universities and brought the Roman Empire culture and technology to the natives, England on the other hand treated them like subhumans.

R146, the USA has been an extremely unequal society for most of its history and the most violent reactions against the XIX Century's Workers' Rights movement were registered in the US. The enormous prosperity that America enjoyed in the 50s and 60s was due to the collapse of all the great industrial powers due to WWII, and the fact that they imposed the dollar as a universal currency for the exchange of goods during Bretton Woods, and the implemented the Petrodollar after 1971. Also, some Latin American countries like Argentina were fabulously wealthy before American Imperialism infiltrated them and enslaved them.

I am not saying that Latin America is a paradise, because it VERY CLEARLY it is not, but the political and social legacy of Spanish, French and Portuguese rule is only one of the factors that have led to its poverty and instability. In fact, after the XX Century it's America's aggressive economic exclusivism and its relentless application of the Monroe doctrine that lead to the impoverishment of the rest of the continent.

R147 - like Indians and slaves were treated SO well in the Spanish and Portuguese colonies. Top spanish speaking universities in the world rankings? Are there any?

The main difference in the Spanish versus English colonial systems was land distribution and voting.

R148 - bullshit, Argentina was wealthy primarily due to its agro-economy. It was not industrialized and it declined in the 1930s due to a junta and political instability.

R149 they were treated way better than in the English colonies, that is for sure.

Universities were a Spanish invention.

If we are going to play that game then when Spaniards were living in brick houses and majestic palaces the English were living in huts in the middle of no where and killing peoples in bugs as human sacrifices.

The best universities ranking is only a Anglo American centric shit, most French people do not give a shit about English speaking universities and Spaniards the same. They could care less about the ranking made by none others than Americans themselves. What an American think is prestigious or not is only their own shit and opinion. Spain has many prestigious universities around the world with better education and programs than any crappy Ivy League have.

Let not even mention that the education system in Europe included Spain is waaaaay better than in the US in such a way than in american universities professors do not even lecture or write on the board any more, it is a all straight reading from PowerPoint slides.

America, sorry the USA, "enslaved Argentina" and is still doing so? We learn new things every day at DL.

The Spanish did not create a great civilization in the Americas. They actually destroyed them instead.

Two were still in existence when the Spanish arrived - the Aztecs and the Incas. The Spanish set out to systematically annihilate both of them. Unfortunately the Spanish succeeded at it.

The Spanish were the first to introduce slaves to the Americas. They wiped out the indigenous populations of the Caribbean and many elsewhere.

That Spanish is the spoken language from Mexico to Chile is not some success story but rather the final result of genocide.

R152 bullshit, the black legend made up by the Anglos to attack Spain is just that, an invention.

The genocide was committed by England that killed all the native population in the Caribbean and even in North America. The very fact that those Native American tribes do not even speak their ancestral language is evidence of this.

They are still Mayans and Incas communities in Mexico and Central America.

Spain created a far greater civilization than England in the americas because the main purpose of Spain was to bring Christianity to the indigenous people, they learn how to build cathedrals and aqueducts in the European Roman ways. They were taught how to read and write and behave in a civilized manner.

England did not have any of these intentions.

No one has ever said that the Spanish were compassionate towards the Indians, R152, but at least they didn't systematically exterminate them like the English, German, French and Dutch did. That is why there are practically no American Indians in the US, Canada and the Caribbean, and the few ones that remain mostly live in reservations. The fact that the vast majority of the population in Latin America are mestizos with a very high level of Amerindian blood, reflects the fact that there was considerable intermixing. All imperial expansions are violent and civilizations are destroyed in the process, and that isn't something exclusively done by European empires and certainly it wasn't exclusively done by the Spaniards.

The Aztecs were particularly brutal and were profoundly hated by all the many peoples they had subjugated, from Nicaragua to Northern Mexico. The Incas were less brutal, but they were far from loved by the tribes they had turned into their vassals; are you really foolish enough to believe that these empires didn't expand through extreme violence and destruction? Many people like to believe that Africa, America and Southern Asia were egalitarian utopias before the arrival of the European invaders, but the extreme inequality and violence within these societies played a fundamental role in allowing European imperial expansion. And in the case of Africa, the royalty and aristocratic classes of the Benin, Togo, Bono, Ashanti, Imbangala and Nyamwezi kingdoms gladly sold their own serfs to the European slave traders for huge profits - the fact that they didn't do anything worthwhile with the fabulous wealth they obtained from the Atlantic Slave Trade isn't to be blamed on anyone but themselves.

Also, do you really believe that England's wealth is based on compassion and the sharing of technological development? Have you heard what the East India Company did in the Indian subcontinent, or the brutal practices of English landowners in the Antilles and Africa? Do not be naive.

R148 as an argentinean, that's a bit much. I can't blame americans for that. It was stupid choices and laziness from the government that started it, and then in the 40's Peronism. For the most part, when we were rich Europe, especially the UK, was our daddy, not the U.S.

Now if we want to put some blame on the US government for most of our dictatorships, particularly our last one that cost the lives of thousands of our people (some innocent, some not) thats a whole other empanada.

Leguizamo is an insufferable, bloviating twat these days. I choose to remember him as the hot piece of ass he once was—I would do horrible things for an opportunity to fuck that man in his prime.

[quote]Evita was half Spanish and half French, she had no mixed Native/African blood.

I remember when people complained about Madonna's casting in the 1996 movie, because 1) it was out of her range, and 2) she was not Hispanic/Latina.

But like 97% of Argentineans are of European descent, mainly from Spain and Italy.

And Madonna is Italian-French.

[quote]Andy Garcia played an Italian American in The Godfather Part III

And was Oscar-nominated, but lost to Joe Pesci in GOODFELLAS.

John Leguizamo delivered a searing speech about Hollywood's need for more Colombians playing Puerto Ricans!