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I don't think the other members of the What's My Line panel liked Dorothy Kilgallen, Part 8

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by Anonymousreply 451October 15, 2024 5:10 PM

Let's complete Part 7 first. Previous thread:

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by Anonymousreply 1September 6, 2024 6:18 AM

Re: comedians on the show.

Steve Allen was the best of the lot. His humor was more in-line with Arlene's. He was a semi-regular and so he really understood the show. He was never disruptive. He never made it about himself.

by Anonymousreply 2September 7, 2024 3:22 PM

I just posted R600 in the old thread, and it has been marked closed.

Sadly, this will likely be my biggest claim to fame around here... ; )

by Anonymousreply 3September 8, 2024 2:56 AM

Call me crazy but I find the young mid-1950s Steve Allen weirdly sexy.

And I think back then he was actually perceived as rather hip and cool. At least until a few years later, when truly hip and cool comics like Mort Sahl appeared on the scene.

by Anonymousreply 4September 8, 2024 3:11 AM

Was Laraine Day fucking Mark Goodson?

by Anonymousreply 5September 8, 2024 3:12 AM

R4 = Jayne Meadows

You're not fooling anyone.

by Anonymousreply 6September 8, 2024 3:23 AM

Steve moments.

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by Anonymousreply 7September 8, 2024 4:18 AM

[quote]I was at a party once, where we played What's My Line? using our first jobs out of high school or college. I was shocked at just how terrible most people were at playing the game.

The above is from [R593] in the previous thread.

I've played along with the WML panel a few times because I was inattentive when the occupation was flashed on the screen and, yes, it is hard. Even having seen hundreds of episodes, knowing the frequency with which certain occupations turn up, and hearing the answers to the experienced panelists' questions, there are so many possibilities it's really difficult to figure out in most cases. Sometimes, even when you know the answer, it's amazing to see how quickly Arlene, especially, gets it right.

This is in contrast to To Tell The Truth, which I've been watching lately because I've gone through all but the earliest the WML episodes. On TTTT, you play along whether you want to or not, of course, and it's not too hard. Granted, you have a 1 in 3 chance of being right just by guessing, but there are a lot of clues that you can use to figure out who the real contestant is. With the WML occupations, there are a world of choices.

by Anonymousreply 8September 8, 2024 9:00 AM

There's another thread going on The Sound of Music, so I thought I'd post this here. I'm sure it's been posted before, but in case you haven't seen it, here's Julie Andrews' one and, as far as I know, only appearance on WML. February 7, 1960.

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by Anonymousreply 9September 8, 2024 10:12 AM

I have to googie Katherine Grayson too but she sure was pretty. A young Tom Poston is pretty cute. I like him on both shows. The private eye at the end of the show is pretty cute.

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by Anonymousreply 10September 8, 2024 7:46 PM

Yes Julie was only on the show that one time.

by Anonymousreply 11September 8, 2024 7:47 PM

She almost beat that panel.

by Anonymousreply 12September 8, 2024 8:00 PM

Martyn Green.

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by Anonymousreply 13September 9, 2024 12:30 AM

The PE director in R9 is handsome.

by Anonymousreply 14September 9, 2024 12:48 AM

There's one with a night watchman at an all girls school. He's hot as hell. Than the really young guy who works at a spa for woman. He was hot as fuck too. Arlene flirted shamelessly and her flirted shamelessly right back. "off and on". It was pretty funny.

by Anonymousreply 15September 9, 2024 12:50 AM

the incredibly hot Ted Williams.

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by Anonymousreply 16September 9, 2024 12:53 AM

The Skin Diver in R9 has a Maria Callas look.

by Anonymousreply 17September 9, 2024 1:05 AM

Kathryn Grayson was far prettier than I expected her to be! She aged better than some of her sexier peers. But it seemed odd the way she was rushed off as soon as her identity was revealed. I think JCD just wanted to move onto the cute Ivy League private detective.

by Anonymousreply 18September 9, 2024 3:28 AM

R15 here is the episode with the handsome women's spa exercise instructor.

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by Anonymousreply 19September 9, 2024 4:46 AM

I'm going to give you one minute more on this.

Don't call me a moron.

by Anonymousreply 20September 9, 2024 5:43 AM

R18 maybe she had to rush to do her show at the supper club.

by Anonymousreply 21September 9, 2024 5:50 AM

For R16

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by Anonymousreply 22September 9, 2024 7:00 AM

Ted Williams was so sexy! That hair............

by Anonymousreply 23September 9, 2024 2:40 PM

Funny Arlene/Martin moments.

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by Anonymousreply 24September 9, 2024 9:22 PM

Ted Williams had the same kind of goofy pansexual appeal and dimples that young Joe Namath did.

Did Joe ever do the syndicated version of WML? Pretty sure he was too young for the original.

by Anonymousreply 25September 9, 2024 9:35 PM

Joe on WML is not listed on IMDb.

by Anonymousreply 26September 9, 2024 9:38 PM

The didn’t call Ted the Splendid Splinter for nothing….🍆

by Anonymousreply 27September 9, 2024 10:38 PM

The recently deceased James Earl Jones.

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by Anonymousreply 28September 10, 2024 4:54 AM

Ted W.

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by Anonymousreply 29September 10, 2024 5:39 AM

Gary Gabelich

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by Anonymousreply 30September 10, 2024 1:23 PM

R9 Ted created the whole shower shoe “fashion” statement. Strange but true.

by Anonymousreply 31September 10, 2024 3:01 PM

R29 ^

by Anonymousreply 32September 10, 2024 3:02 PM

Another Ted. He was an all around good guy. A very early environmentalist. He did a lot for cleaning up rivers and saving/reintroducing fish into them. He did two "hitches" in the Marines. Which he thought was his most important accomplishments. If he didn't have a job in the Marines where he would have aged out he probably would have stayed in even longer. All his time in public life and there was probably never a bad word said against him.

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by Anonymousreply 33September 10, 2024 4:10 PM

Ted having fun.

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by Anonymousreply 34September 10, 2024 4:13 PM

Ted shaved his chest!

by Anonymousreply 35September 10, 2024 4:50 PM

The garbage man they had in this episode is the best looking man they had on the show this side of Ricky Nelson.

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by Anonymousreply 36September 10, 2024 4:55 PM

That garbage collector was indeed handsome, but he seemed a bit clueless on several of the details of his job. I wonder if he was an actor with garbage collecting as a sideline?

by Anonymousreply 37September 10, 2024 5:40 PM

Yes, because that was so typical of the era🙄

by Anonymousreply 38September 10, 2024 5:46 PM

Whoa...there's a point where they go in for a close-up of Mr. Garbage Collector...those are movie star looks.

BTW: Martin Gabel is so suave and cool.

by Anonymousreply 39September 10, 2024 6:26 PM

He looks a bit like the before Montgomery Clift.

by Anonymousreply 40September 10, 2024 7:33 PM

And he raced out of there at the end.

by Anonymousreply 41September 10, 2024 7:42 PM

thank your R40. I was going mad thinking of who he reminded me of.

by Anonymousreply 42September 10, 2024 9:03 PM

[quote]The garbage man they had in this episode is the best looking man they had on the show this side of Ricky Nelson.

Yes, but was he a singing garbage man?

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by Anonymousreply 43September 10, 2024 9:48 PM

We know them, ad nauseam🥱

by Anonymousreply 44September 10, 2024 9:50 PM

I have high bp. What’s my price?

by Anonymousreply 45September 10, 2024 10:01 PM

I'll still take the singing garbagemen. They had spunk!

by Anonymousreply 46September 10, 2024 11:02 PM
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by Anonymousreply 47September 10, 2024 11:04 PM

[quote]We know them, ad nauseam🥱

You sound like fun.

by Anonymousreply 48September 10, 2024 11:54 PM

I am—I’ve made several well-liked posts on the LONG-running WM thread, during which time we’ve seen the garbage duo many times.

by Anonymousreply 49September 11, 2024 12:06 AM

Sorry. I forgot it was post number three, part one. Had I remembered I wouldn't have reposted it.

by Anonymousreply 50September 11, 2024 12:08 AM

Cunt

by Anonymousreply 51September 11, 2024 12:08 AM

[quote]I’ve made several well-liked posts on the LONG-running WM thread

Well, smell you, r49.

by Anonymousreply 52September 11, 2024 12:20 AM

Do we like the Bull fighter?

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by Anonymousreply 53September 11, 2024 12:52 AM

The nurse got wolf whistled and while she had a good figure her face was average.

by Anonymousreply 54September 11, 2024 5:25 AM

Celeste Holm on the panel.

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by Anonymousreply 55September 13, 2024 2:49 PM

CELESTE, entering the WML green room: "Good evening, everyone!"

ARLENE: "Oh, shit, good manners."

by Anonymousreply 56September 13, 2024 5:24 PM

R56 doesn't get it.

by Anonymousreply 57September 13, 2024 6:17 PM

Arlene and Dorothy in Monaco for the wedding.

by Anonymousreply 58September 13, 2024 8:55 PM

Elsa Maxwell: Does this dress make me look fat?

by Anonymousreply 59September 13, 2024 8:56 PM

Celeste corrects Elsa about who has designed Grace's wedding dress. Elsa says she's Helen Rome. No, it's Rose.

by Anonymousreply 60September 14, 2024 7:21 AM

Helen Rose had designed Celeste's costumes, as well as those for Grace, for HIGH SOCIETY. Though perhaps it's mentioned in the segment, which I haven't yet watched.

by Anonymousreply 61September 14, 2024 12:17 PM

Fontana

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by Anonymousreply 62September 14, 2024 2:04 PM

TF aka Tim Flock

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by Anonymousreply 63September 15, 2024 3:21 AM

One of the Fontana sisters was featured on "To Tell the Truth" brought to you by Geritol. Polly Bergen and Kitty Carlisle are on the panel.

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by Anonymousreply 64September 15, 2024 3:40 AM

^ Also you can be sure Kitty Carlisle knew who Micol Fontana was, every society woman did, but probably played along faking ignorance.

by Anonymousreply 65September 15, 2024 3:59 AM

Celeste as MG #2. Her first appearance is not on YouTube.

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by Anonymousreply 66September 15, 2024 5:29 AM

Third Best Sport.

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by Anonymousreply 67September 15, 2024 5:51 AM

Bloopers

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by Anonymousreply 68September 16, 2024 6:28 AM

Ah we see Arlene's infamous hat at 8:30.

by Anonymousreply 69September 16, 2024 6:38 AM

Here's the whole show with Arlene in her hat.

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by Anonymousreply 70September 16, 2024 6:44 AM

Were Celeste's false eyelashes at r67 made of construction paper curled with a scissors?

by Anonymousreply 71September 16, 2024 12:14 PM

Glad to see Audrey Meadows, right before they filmed the classic 39.

by Anonymousreply 72September 16, 2024 1:33 PM

The hat reminds me of Lee Grant's rain-soaked wedding hat in Plaza Suite.

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by Anonymousreply 73September 16, 2024 4:54 PM

WTF with that hat? Dottie Mae must have gotten a chuckle out of that hat.

by Anonymousreply 74September 16, 2024 4:59 PM

R70 Did that Sunday broadcast fall on Easter? Perhaps that could explain the headgear on Arlene and Dorothy?

by Anonymousreply 75September 16, 2024 5:06 PM

Nothing could explain that headgear. Unless she maybe was going to take a dip in the pool after the show.

by Anonymousreply 76September 16, 2024 5:07 PM

In fact: Apr 17, 1960 was Easter Sunday.

by Anonymousreply 77September 16, 2024 5:09 PM

John makes reference to the fact that it is Easter. Also he has a dig at Arlene's hat in his intro.

by Anonymousreply 78September 16, 2024 5:31 PM

You can tell she was embarrassed by the hat and that she wore it for Martin's sake.

by Anonymousreply 79September 16, 2024 5:33 PM

This show has the cute Mosquito Exterminator AND Ingemar.

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by Anonymousreply 80September 16, 2024 5:37 PM

And I thought r80's bridal veil salesman was kind of hot in his way. I imagine a hairy dad bod with a spectacular treasure trail under that suit.

by Anonymousreply 81September 16, 2024 6:16 PM

previous Ingemar.

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by Anonymousreply 82September 16, 2024 6:22 PM

Ingemar must have been an atrocious actor if those staggering good looks couldn't get him into the movies.

by Anonymousreply 83September 16, 2024 6:24 PM

Ingemar was also a Olympic medal winner in track and field too. He was fucking rail thin when he did that

by Anonymousreply 84September 16, 2024 6:30 PM

Since Ingo could barely speak, Tarzan would have been a perfect fit. And his face had that exotic/feral quality not unlike the young Johnny Weissmuller.

by Anonymousreply 85September 16, 2024 6:33 PM

I really like Ralph Bellamy. He was cutthroat on TTTT

by Anonymousreply 86September 16, 2024 10:53 PM

sad that these days and people like the panels are gone and are never coming back.

by Anonymousreply 87September 16, 2024 11:04 PM

the only show with Reginald Gardiner.

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by Anonymousreply 88September 17, 2024 4:10 AM

Portland Hoffa

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by Anonymousreply 89September 17, 2024 4:40 AM

R81, we must have similar taste in men. I remember thinking he was hot the first time I saw that episode, and I still do. He was cute with the questions, too.

R86, I didn't much like Bellamy on TTTT, but he was a sharp interrogator for sure. If he was on the same panel with Don Ameche, the poor contestants must have felt like suspects at the police station.

Speaking of TTTT, I've seen a few "real" contestants who I swear were also on WML. Am I crazy? Could that be? I know they're from the same producers, obviously, but wasn't there a risk that someone from one of the panels would have seen them on the other show?

by Anonymousreply 90September 17, 2024 9:15 AM

According to Dorothy and Bennett, they rarely watched TV, r90.

Anyway, I don't think it would have been unlikely at all to share contestants. There were occasional contestants on WML who'd had previous personal interactions with all the panelists, and they never recognized them, which was, of course, part of the humor (and snob appeal) of WML.

by Anonymousreply 91September 17, 2024 2:05 PM

I know Jimmy Hoffa was into Portland Cement, but I didn't know Portland Hoffa.

by Anonymousreply 92September 17, 2024 2:11 PM

R91, right, the WML panelists were probably rarely watching TV at 7:30 p.m., when TTTT was aired in the latter half of its run. It just seems a chance I'm surprised Goodson Todman would take. It works the other way, too. One of the TTTT panelists might have recognized a WML contestant. They could disqualify themselves, but then they'd have to give the reason, and it would be embarrassing if they said "I saw Number Two on What's My Line".

Also, millions of people watched both shows and some of them would recognize the repeat contestants. It could contribute to the false idea that the games were fixed.

Anyway, I guess it did happen (although, frustratingly, I can't remember a specific example right how). It just surprised me.

by Anonymousreply 93September 17, 2024 7:45 PM

Sometimes I would second hand squirm for the contestants on TTTT when Ralph was on. One interesting thing about TTTT was when they had military themed guests on, like one would be an admiral, and it was close to WWII and/or compulsory service. The men on the panel could really drill them. Yeah Ralph was tough on them. I really like, what little I've seen of him, as an actor too.

by Anonymousreply 94September 17, 2024 9:01 PM

Dorothy goofs and Tony slips.

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by Anonymousreply 95September 17, 2024 10:14 PM

Gene Fullmer

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by Anonymousreply 96September 17, 2024 10:24 PM

This thread is fascinating because it reads like a transcript of conversations taking place in a Senior Living Facility for Gays.

by Anonymousreply 97September 17, 2024 10:42 PM

Natalie Kushnir

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by Anonymousreply 98September 17, 2024 10:44 PM

R97 and/or the Brady Bunch and Bewitched threads.

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by Anonymousreply 99September 17, 2024 11:31 PM

[quote]This thread is fascinating because it reads like a transcript of conversations taking place in a Senior Living Facility for Gays.

In other words: it's actually something worth listening to and participating in.

That's why you're here.

by Anonymousreply 100September 18, 2024 12:41 AM

Gene Fullmer is sexy but I have a thing for the sexy ugly type.

by Anonymousreply 101September 18, 2024 12:50 AM

Ralph and Don in Trading Places. I love how Ralph made a second career late in life by accepting a lot of minor supporting roles. He made a name for himself all over again.

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by Anonymousreply 102September 18, 2024 12:55 AM

Fuck you.

I did the same thing—with an Oscar to boot!

by Anonymousreply 103September 18, 2024 12:59 AM

Peak Cher…oh, and Ameche wins

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by Anonymousreply 104September 18, 2024 1:00 AM

Dorothy on TTTT. She did not fit in. So I don't think the other members of the To Tell the Truth panel liked Dorothy Kilgallen either. I really liked Dina Merrill on any show she participated on. If it was a guest, on TTTT, that involved something of culture or the upper class she would grill them. I remember their was an aide to President Kennedy and boy did Dina rake them over the coals.

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by Anonymousreply 105September 18, 2024 1:01 AM

[quote] This thread is fascinating because it reads like a transcript of conversations taking place in a Senior Living Facility for Gays.

R97 You mean the kind of place that plays nothing but WML episodes on “movie” nights?

by Anonymousreply 106September 18, 2024 1:13 AM

Teresa Stratas is still with us.

I find it hard to believe that Dina did not know who she was.

by Anonymousreply 107September 18, 2024 3:04 AM

OP: are you STILL alive or posting from the Other Side?

by Anonymousreply 108September 18, 2024 3:07 AM

Dina Merrill ... from when there were people with CLASS at Mar-A-Lago.

by Anonymousreply 109September 18, 2024 3:15 AM

The test pilot for jet bombers gets into censorable territory

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by Anonymousreply 110September 18, 2024 4:23 AM

OE aka Pat Tibbs

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by Anonymousreply 111September 18, 2024 4:27 AM

Censorable territory, R110? If the panel had asked Tibbs the "bigger than a breadbox" question early, they might have gotten the answer or at least gotten to airplanes.

People were a lot franker about weight back then, weren't they? Mrs Greenberger runs a shop for "fat men". Dorothy uses the same phrase when she guesses the answer. The panel also sometimes makes references to and jokes about contestant's weight, height, etc. Imagine how that would be received today.

I think Mrs Greenberger's outfit was recycled for use by Lotte Lenya in From Russia With Love. I like tailored suits on women, but that one, combined with the plain blouse, was downright severe.

by Anonymousreply 112September 18, 2024 7:10 AM

Funny you should bring that up, R105. I just saw the Dorothy episode of TTTT last night. No, she absolutely did not fit in. She messed up her first question by breaking the rules and then made an ignorant mistake by not realizing that Carmen is in French (or not realizing that Don José is pronounced differently in French than in Spanish). I actually felt sorry for her. First, she’s a WML regular and so “family”, and second because she was always so anxious to do well. She probably went home in tears that night.

I love Dina Merrill, too. She’s pretty, elegant, poised and funny, but a great player. I’m always happy to see her on either show. Too bad she never became a regular on either one, but maybe she didn’t want to be. (And, to be honest, she would have been maybe a little too much like a young Kitty Carlisle on TTTT; Peggy Cass was more of a contrast to say the least).

by Anonymousreply 113September 18, 2024 7:13 AM

The test pilot segment has Bennett asking about a certain part of the male anatomy. this is deemed to be for Not safe for 1950s TV in the blooper reel of R68.

by Anonymousreply 114September 18, 2024 8:01 AM

They bothered to drag Arlene Dahl and her big muff out but left no time for even a little chit chat with her and MG Fernando Lamas (my god, he was sexy!). I wonder how soon after this episode they divorced.

by Anonymousreply 115September 18, 2024 12:39 PM

Discovering What's My Line on YouTube led me to TTTT. I think I like Bud Collier more than John Daley. When Peggy Cass joined TTTT it's quality jumped. It's funny, Polly Bergen, after Arlene, is my favorite panelist. Yet when she left and was replaced by Peggy Cass the show was better for it. Man though Polly turned her run on a game show into quiet a career. I think Kitty hated her. Hate to derail a WML thread but the two shows seem to go together nicely.

by Anonymousreply 116September 18, 2024 9:32 PM

Lamas remained married to Arlene Dahl until 1960.

by Anonymousreply 117September 18, 2024 10:36 PM

Milton Berle.

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by Anonymousreply 118September 18, 2024 11:45 PM

**kisses Dahl**

by Anonymousreply 119September 18, 2024 11:52 PM

Collyer, R116.

by Anonymousreply 120September 18, 2024 11:57 PM

I suppose by now someone has written about how Bennet Cerf disliked her crass competitiveness, Henry Morgan let Bennet Cerf know his story was boring and got banned, everyone was drunk sometimes but Dorothy was so sloshed on one episode it caused comment, and anyone who likes the dreadful Bud Collyer more than the equitable, subtle, comradely Mr. Daly deserves to sit through all the Soupy Sales episodes.

And it's not because Collyer was crippled and wobbled from side to side like an uncertain bowling pin.

by Anonymousreply 121September 19, 2024 12:19 AM

I know I'm going to regret asking this but why should I hate Bud?

by Anonymousreply 122September 19, 2024 12:43 AM

I thought Bud was a very good host. A bit too preachy a Christian for my taste, but it was a different era. And I guess it WAS important to stress positive virtues in a show that highlighted lying.

by Anonymousreply 123September 19, 2024 12:51 AM

I have to laugh at the hat the horse hat maker wears in R118.

by Anonymousreply 124September 19, 2024 1:52 AM

This is the straight part Milton speaks of appearing in next. Co-starring Bea Arthur!

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by Anonymousreply 125September 19, 2024 2:32 AM

So, Fernando and Esther didn't get together during their MGM years?

by Anonymousreply 126September 19, 2024 2:58 AM

Esther said in interview that Fernando was interested but she could see he was screwing around and she would only take him if he was monogamous. So he had to wait and get all the screwing done first.

by Anonymousreply 127September 19, 2024 3:47 AM

R116, I like Bud Collyer better than John Daly, too. Bud is unfailingly cheerful, and John's name-dropping gets annoying, as does his obsession with the Tilton School.

I don't dislike John; I just like Bud better. They were both good moderators. It can't be easy keeping shows with so many segments and so many people moving along on time, while simultaneously being good-natured and keeping an eye on the comments to be sure they don't go too far for television in the '50s and '60s.

Peggy was a great player, and she did improve the show. She's far from my favorite panelist, but she was good at her job.

I don't think Arlene was ever a guest panelist on TTTT, was she? I do recall an episode of WML where John mentioned that Arlene was going to be on I've Got A Secret, but never TTTT. Too bad. She would have had fun and made the show more fun, too.

by Anonymousreply 128September 19, 2024 9:43 AM

[quote]It's funny, Polly Bergen, after Arlene, is my favorite panelist. Yet when she left and was replaced by Peggy Cass the show was better for it.

I always liked Polly Bergen, but not as a panelist on "To Tell the Truth," where she struck me as too much of a camera hog, always trying to call attention to herself. I much preferred her as a chanteuse on "The Ed Sullivan Show," dolled up and wearing long gloves as she dramatically interpreted popular songs of the day.

by Anonymousreply 129September 19, 2024 10:51 AM

Always loved Polly Bergen but I get the impression there's a lot about her the public never knew (and I don't just mean her possible late in life lesbianism). She was beautiful and so talented in so many directions yet never quite achieved top stardom in any of them. A leading lady character actress.

by Anonymousreply 130September 19, 2024 12:02 PM

1965. A stunningly beautiful Polly singing in French with Sandler & Young on the Ed Sullivan Show. Tony Sandler (on the right) is still with us.

Man, have times changed.

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by Anonymousreply 131September 19, 2024 2:47 PM

Wow! What a gorgeous and fascinating number that is, r131. I wonder how it came to be conceived. Was this before or after The Singing Nun had a big hit with a very different version?

by Anonymousreply 132September 19, 2024 3:14 PM

The only thing with Polly though is that hairstyle. Her bone structure in her face is nearly incomprable but that frau hair always made her look 20 years older than she was. I remember watching on YouTube when she came back to the panel after a week off. She missed the last show because of the Emmy awards. She was nominated, and won, for a special she did. When she came back Bud and the panel congratulate her. However, beneath the smile, Kitty looked like she wanted to kill her.

by Anonymousreply 133September 19, 2024 3:14 PM

I wonder who shouted "get me Polly Bergen!" for Cape Fear. That casting seems so off the wall but it worked. It just seems odd because nearly every actress in Hollywood wanted that role.

by Anonymousreply 134September 19, 2024 3:16 PM

Polly always seemed on the verge of bigger things that never quite materialized.

by Anonymousreply 135September 19, 2024 3:18 PM

I loved all the panelists on I've Got a Secret but didn't like the show. Loved, loved, loved Betsy Palmer.

by Anonymousreply 136September 19, 2024 3:22 PM

Don't know who Suzie Knickerbocker is but she made a GREAT panelist. She fit it effortlessly. Her she is with Polly.

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by Anonymousreply 137September 19, 2024 3:32 PM

How could you not know Suz K?

by Anonymousreply 138September 19, 2024 3:42 PM

It was a small part but Polly was great on The Sopranos.

by Anonymousreply 139September 19, 2024 3:45 PM

Milton Berle #1

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by Anonymousreply 140September 19, 2024 10:39 PM

Frank Gifford is handsome.

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by Anonymousreply 141September 19, 2024 10:58 PM

R141 just awoke from a coma…. We’ve known this since the end of the Korean War

by Anonymousreply 142September 19, 2024 11:00 PM

To add: he was hot, but very dumb hot.

Coming from Bakersfield and USC, he had the intelligence of Portland cement.

by Anonymousreply 143September 19, 2024 11:02 PM

The Gas Station Attendant in R110 has an overbite.

by Anonymousreply 144September 19, 2024 11:39 PM

R131, thank you. What a strange arrangement! (It was after the Singing Nun version; in fact, I believe she wrote the song.)

I had a huge crush on Tony Sandler when I was a gayling. Looking at his pictures from that era (late '60s), I still think he was hot. He's still alive at 91 ... probably not still hot.

Speaking of Polly Bergen, why did she leave TTTT? Or, to put it more accurately, why did she vanish from TTTT without a word from anyone, much like Don Ameche a few months later in 1961? There was nothing from Bud, Polly (or Don), or anyone on the panel saying goodbye or explaining the departure. It was just here today, gone tomorrow. Weird. That would never have happened on WML. Audiences at the time must have been puzzled, and there must have been mention in gossip columns (maybe our Dorothy had something to say about it!).

by Anonymousreply 145September 20, 2024 12:09 AM

I don't think Arlene was ever a guest panelist on TTTT, was she?

On November 2 1965 Arlene and Dorothy taped an episode where they both pretended to be Joan Crawford while sitting next to the real Crawford. It had yet to be aired when Dorothy died on November 8. It is shelved and then believed destroyed because of the common practice of wiping videotape for reuse. However the show was later broadcast on the Game Show Network decades later.

by Anonymousreply 146September 20, 2024 12:21 AM

[quote] Speaking of Polly Bergen, why did she leave TTTT? Or, to put it more accurately, why did she vanish from TTTT without a word from anyone, much like Don Ameche a few months later in 1961? There was nothing from Bud, Polly (or Don), or anyone on the panel saying goodbye or explaining the departure.

Don't let Bud's genial smile fool you. He ran that show with an iron fist. And if you managed to cross him, you were dead to him & the show.

by Anonymousreply 147September 20, 2024 12:35 AM

John Daly had that NYC sophisticate thing about him. He was so much more interesting than Bud Collyer. Collyer reminded me of maybe Ozzie Nelson. That bland 1950s TV dad type.

by Anonymousreply 148September 20, 2024 12:42 AM

In R140 Milton mentions he plans to do a new TV show with Sidney Sheldon but I don't think it was made.

by Anonymousreply 149September 20, 2024 1:23 AM

The early 60s was when Polly finally got some big Hollywood films like The Caretakers, Cape Fear and Move Over, Darling so perhaps she was too busy on the west coast for TTTT.

by Anonymousreply 150September 20, 2024 3:42 AM

Milton # 3

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by Anonymousreply 151September 20, 2024 5:36 AM

JH Edmondson

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by Anonymousreply 152September 20, 2024 5:49 AM

Do you think the Neiman Marcus maternity clothes salesman was gay?

by Anonymousreply 153September 20, 2024 6:12 AM

On a 1950s episode I watched last night, one of the contestants was a gentleman who designed girdles. He had started out designing women's clothing. Gay, gay, gay, gay, gay.

by Anonymousreply 154September 20, 2024 8:08 AM

Do you have the date of the episode or who the mystery quest was?

by Anonymousreply 155September 20, 2024 9:29 AM

The mystery guest was Mary Healy, R155. Her husband, Peter Lind Hayes, was on the panel.

by Anonymousreply 156September 20, 2024 10:39 AM

Is it this one?

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by Anonymousreply 157September 20, 2024 12:47 PM

^ Yes.

by Anonymousreply 158September 20, 2024 1:26 PM

R151 is the show where a man came running onto the set to greet Milton.

by Anonymousreply 159September 20, 2024 2:19 PM

Wiki. Check out his scorching personal life.

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by Anonymousreply 160September 20, 2024 2:25 PM

Bill Douglas could've been president. He was among the few who were considered by the party to replace Henry Wallace on the dying FDR's 1944 ticket.

by Anonymousreply 161September 20, 2024 2:36 PM

The girdle designer isn't an obvious gay to me. But the segment is very funny.

by Anonymousreply 162September 20, 2024 2:42 PM

What's My Line? never fails for some laugh-out-loud laughs,

Lucy, Burns&Allen and What's-My-Line? the three 1950s TV shows that still get to me.

by Anonymousreply 163September 20, 2024 3:39 PM

Nor to me, R162.

by Anonymousreply 164September 20, 2024 3:41 PM

R161 he was never going to be selected…the diametric opposite of what FDR’s staff was looking for in 1944. They dumped Henry for a reason.

by Anonymousreply 165September 20, 2024 5:37 PM

The Bill Douglas of 1944 was not the great liberal he became over the next thirty years on the High Court. And though FDR was incredibly passive about the choice, perhaps owing to his failing health & energy, historical accounts of those years make clear that Douglas was right at the top of his list of successors to Wallace. I just read a new Henry Wallace biography very much on point on this topic.

by Anonymousreply 166September 20, 2024 5:45 PM

And that’s why they picked Harry Truman. Jeez, be more stupid if you can.

by Anonymousreply 167September 20, 2024 6:12 PM

Stupid, really?! That Truman ended up getting the nod - because he had more support among the party bosses to whom FDR largely deferred - doesn't mean that Douglas wasn't in the running.

by Anonymousreply 168September 20, 2024 7:23 PM

But it does mean he wasn’t ever actually going to be the choice! Eventually—I hope—you will understand the distinction. For now, go back to 11th grade; do not pass GO and do not collect $200.

by Anonymousreply 169September 20, 2024 8:04 PM

Are you okay, R169?!

My original post:

[quote] Bill Douglas could've been president. He was among the few who were considered by the party to replace Henry Wallace on the dying FDR's 1944 ticket.

Because the pick for VP in '44 was clearly going to succeed to the presidency in the event of the dying FDR's reelection, ANY of those in the running to be the vice presidential "could've been president." Douglas WAS definitely in the running (as was Jimmy Byrnes,). Hence, he "could've been president."

[quote] But it does mean he wasn’t ever actually going to be the choice! Eventually—I hope—you will understand the distinction. For now, go back to 11th grade; do not pass GO and do not collect $200.

I never once said he was "going to be the choice." You've created a straw man out of whole cloth. I hope this settles your confused mind.

Now, let's all return to the real reason we're here - whether Dorothy's co-panelists liked her.

by Anonymousreply 170September 20, 2024 8:25 PM

You’re as tiresome as Henry Wallace’s ill-fated campaign R170

by Anonymousreply 171September 20, 2024 8:28 PM

R171, you're the very definition of someone who makes a mountain out of a molehill, & I'm the tiresome one?! How very rich of you.

by Anonymousreply 172September 20, 2024 8:34 PM

“I'm the tiresome one!”

Alex, what is Yes for $1000.

by Anonymousreply 173September 20, 2024 8:37 PM

Was the audience laughing at the private detective in R157?

by Anonymousreply 174September 21, 2024 12:08 AM

Mary Healy

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by Anonymousreply 175September 21, 2024 8:23 AM

I don't know why singers smoked but Polly admitted in an interview that by the time she was 16 she was a pack a day smoker. It's shocking she lasted as long as she did.

by Anonymousreply 176September 21, 2024 2:17 PM

The Supremes, Lana Turner, and an incredibly good looking wine salesman.

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by Anonymousreply 177September 21, 2024 2:18 PM

There's been no call for a conference.

by Anonymousreply 178September 21, 2024 2:24 PM

At what (early) point of the network show did they dispense with talking about the contestant winning money by stumping the panel?

by Anonymousreply 179September 21, 2024 2:46 PM

R117 Yes, the wine salesman is a hunk!

I love Suzy's uppercrust accent. She sounds like Gloria Upson.

by Anonymousreply 180September 21, 2024 3:04 PM

I'm now googling John T. Pennell, wine salesman and champion pole vaulter.

by Anonymousreply 181September 21, 2024 3:34 PM

Sorry, it's actually John T. Pennel.

Wiki tells us he also appeared on TTTT before WML and then later on The Dating Game, where he won over Burt Reynolds, and finally with his family on Family Feud. I imagine some of those appearances could be linked here by someone more ambitious than me. Sadly, he died in 1993 at age 53 of liver cancer.

by Anonymousreply 182September 21, 2024 3:40 PM

He was the favorite to win the pole vault at both Tokyo and Mexico City, but he failed to medal either time. He set multiple world records.

by Anonymousreply 183September 21, 2024 3:45 PM
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by Anonymousreply 184September 21, 2024 3:45 PM

Wiki

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by Anonymousreply 185September 21, 2024 3:49 PM

On Family Feud.

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by Anonymousreply 186September 21, 2024 4:05 PM

It’s very hard to have a lantern jaw and remain very hawt. But he pulled it off well.

by Anonymousreply 187September 21, 2024 5:01 PM

The first three contestants on that Dating Game clip all look like Colt models.

by Anonymousreply 188September 21, 2024 5:11 PM

Spoiler: Falcon Video!

by Anonymousreply 189September 21, 2024 6:04 PM

The old days…men were men, and glory holes were ubiquitous. No pronouns required.

by Anonymousreply 190September 21, 2024 6:06 PM

That hot surfer told the dizzy blond to go back to the room as he caught up with some tres 🔥French skiers!

FYI: Jim Lange, host of the Dating Game, married the love of his life—Miss America 1961–a teen hottie from Michigan.

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by Anonymousreply 191September 21, 2024 6:10 PM

I'd love to know the rest of the story about the love life of the game one bachelorette, who liked "mean" men.

by Anonymousreply 192September 21, 2024 6:21 PM

What a surprise Diana took the chair for The Supremes in R177.

by Anonymousreply 193September 21, 2024 11:55 PM

John Pennel looks a bit like Paul Newman.

by Anonymousreply 194September 22, 2024 12:05 AM

R191 Bennett Cerf and his wife were judges at the 1961 Miss America pageant.

Mark Goodson too!

And also George Balanchine and Mitch Miller.

Bennett took the stage to present the Miss Congeniality award.

by Anonymousreply 195September 22, 2024 12:53 AM

They chose well…

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by Anonymousreply 196September 22, 2024 2:19 AM

Ooh R171! A burn straight from 1948!!!

by Anonymousreply 197September 22, 2024 2:46 AM

Here's Phyllis Newman stinking things up.

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by Anonymousreply 198September 22, 2024 3:51 AM

The R177 racetrack bookie assistant is John Hurt in drag.

by Anonymousreply 199September 22, 2024 5:47 AM

Milton # 4

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by Anonymousreply 200September 22, 2024 7:57 AM

R188, they were all hot, but Bachelor #1 was spectacular.

by Anonymousreply 201September 22, 2024 8:13 AM

If you ask me, all 6 Bachelors were extremely hot, including, of course, young Burt Reynolds. Did the show always have so many gorgeous contestants?

by Anonymousreply 202September 22, 2024 1:04 PM

Weren't those striped shirts that the Kingston Trio sported considered very SoCal hip and cool in 1963? And didn't the early Beach Boys copy it?

by Anonymousreply 203September 22, 2024 1:19 PM

I fucking hate Phyllis Newman.

by Anonymousreply 204September 22, 2024 3:47 PM

Everyone wore them. No copying required.

by Anonymousreply 205September 22, 2024 5:08 PM

Poor Nick Adams got shut down by Carl Sandburg.

by Anonymousreply 206September 22, 2024 5:45 PM

I wanted to punch this little girl ventriloquist in her throat.

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by Anonymousreply 207September 22, 2024 6:05 PM

[quote]Weren't those striped shirts that the Kingston Trio sported considered very SoCal hip and cool in 1963?

I remember my older brother wearing one and calling it his "Kingston Trio shirt."

by Anonymousreply 208September 22, 2024 7:03 PM

Your brother was an idiot

by Anonymousreply 209September 22, 2024 9:06 PM

The "on my left" vs. "on my right" debate.

by Anonymousreply 210September 22, 2024 9:28 PM

I’m in my own bed so I’ll do what I want!

by Anonymousreply 211September 22, 2024 9:35 PM

Marilyn Patch became...

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by Anonymousreply 212September 22, 2024 10:43 PM

Wooo energy. Good handwriting and a lot of personality for a kid. Dead giveaway of a TV performer. It would be darned interesting if any videotapes of her show survive after all these years --the concept seems a trifle creepy what with the ringlets and the belting. WML had an interest in employed children and liked to put them on as often as possible. Henry Makow and trapeze artist Ray Valentine come to mind.

by Anonymousreply 213September 22, 2024 10:50 PM

Super sexy wrestler from Canada.

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by Anonymousreply 214September 23, 2024 3:01 AM

He was a sexy hunk o' man!

So strange that there wasn't a single word of chit chat after Ms. Gabor was identified.

by Anonymousreply 215September 23, 2024 4:08 AM

Henry Makow has not WML credit on IMDb. He was on To Tell the Truth and I've Got a Secret.

by Anonymousreply 216September 23, 2024 4:46 AM

R214, very sexy, and charming, too. I loved the way he answered with a confident "yes" or "no", no elaboration and little hesitation.

I couldn't find any pictures of Stephan Zold, and most of the references on Google are to his WML appearance, so perhaps his wrestling career wasn't too long or successful. He died at 82 in 2011, survived by his wife of 62 years and a flock of children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

Also, Eva Gabor was absolutely gorgeous in that episode. What a beautiful woman she was.

by Anonymousreply 217September 23, 2024 7:32 AM

[quote]Your brother was an idiot

I guess it takes one to know one, R209. You missed the point entirely

by Anonymousreply 218September 23, 2024 8:00 AM

Couldn't find the whole show where Ray Valentine appeared.

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by Anonymousreply 219September 23, 2024 8:20 AM

Stephen Zold wrestling data

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by Anonymousreply 220September 23, 2024 8:38 AM

Mr. Zold also had lovely penmanship; it should be noted.

by Anonymousreply 221September 23, 2024 12:07 PM

Can I see your hands Mr. Zold? OOOOOO a ruffian!

by Anonymousreply 222September 23, 2024 1:32 PM

Good penmanship used to be encouraged in schools. Some teachers even gave medals to the student with the best hand.

by Anonymousreply 223September 23, 2024 5:01 PM

Milton #5

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by Anonymousreply 224September 23, 2024 5:41 PM

I think Arlene is tipsy again in this one.

by Anonymousreply 225September 23, 2024 5:46 PM

r217=Merv Griffin

by Anonymousreply 226September 23, 2024 5:49 PM

So many mystery guests and we keep getting Milton Berle??

by Anonymousreply 227September 23, 2024 10:02 PM

He did have that huge cock. Maybe they could have covered that on I've Got a Secret.

by Anonymousreply 228September 23, 2024 10:28 PM

The Andrews Sisters. Lots of applause but no wolf whistles...

Guessed very quickly. Apparently they were playing The Latin Quarter (owned by Barbara Walter's dad).

The lady bartender segment really shows how adept the panel was at asking the right questions.

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by Anonymousreply 229September 23, 2024 10:42 PM

Number 1, 2 or 3: who has the horse dick?

Only one is here To Tell The Truth!

by Anonymousreply 230September 23, 2024 10:43 PM

That bat boy was cute as fuck.

by Anonymousreply 231September 23, 2024 10:46 PM

The bat boy looks a stand-in for Ricky Nelson

by Anonymousreply 232September 23, 2024 10:51 PM

[quote]r229 = Apparently they were playing The Latin Quarter (owned by Barbara Walter's dad).

Lou booked *all* of the greats!

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by Anonymousreply 233September 23, 2024 10:56 PM

Bat boy looks like Lloyd Bridges.

by Anonymousreply 234September 23, 2024 11:07 PM

Milton as panelist

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by Anonymousreply 235September 23, 2024 11:36 PM

[quote] (owned by Barbara Walter's dad).

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 236September 24, 2024 1:16 AM

R236 Sorry about that!

Should read: "...owned by Baba Wawa's dad".

by Anonymousreply 237September 24, 2024 1:26 AM

Bat Boy's clothes were funny. In 1959 he was still wearing a very baggy oversized blazer and full pleated trousers but a skinny tie.

by Anonymousreply 238September 24, 2024 3:02 AM

Idaho Vicar and Parachute Jumper.

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by Anonymousreply 239September 24, 2024 3:14 AM

I have to laugh at Carol's stammering when questioning the Vicar.

by Anonymousreply 240September 24, 2024 6:39 AM

Was he a dishy vicar, R240?

by Anonymousreply 241September 24, 2024 8:54 AM

He was a dishy vicar, indeed!

The poor saddle maker seemed as confused by her wolf whistles as I was.

by Anonymousreply 242September 24, 2024 12:51 PM

Another with Carol as panelist.

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by Anonymousreply 243September 24, 2024 3:48 PM

oh dear Carol and corn.

by Anonymousreply 244September 24, 2024 8:36 PM

Dina Merrill would have guessed the designer without asking a single question.

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by Anonymousreply 245September 24, 2024 10:32 PM

Marc Bohan died last year at the age 97.

by Anonymousreply 246September 24, 2024 10:40 PM

Marc Bohan

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by Anonymousreply 247September 24, 2024 11:31 PM

Ann Marston

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by Anonymousreply 248September 24, 2024 11:37 PM

I remember as a kid in the 60s being introduced to the phenomena that was Carol Channing who constantly appeared on Password and What's My Line? and probably I've Got a Secret, too. As well as every NY based talk show. She really hawked Hello, Dolly! whenever and wherever she could.

But she piqued my interest in seeing Broadway musicals and started going as a teen a few years later.

by Anonymousreply 249September 25, 2024 3:15 AM

1960 Joey Bishop as MG.

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by Anonymousreply 250September 25, 2024 3:29 AM

I *love* this!

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by Anonymousreply 251September 25, 2024 4:23 AM

John Ficklin

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by Anonymousreply 252September 25, 2024 10:15 AM

As of this week, Buzzr is no longer showing the 1950s episodes of "What's My Line?," "To Tell the Truth" and "I've Got a Secret" with the original commercials. They've been replaced with early '70s episodes of "What's My Line?" with Wally Bruner as the host and the Gary Moore-hosted syndicated "To Tell the Truth." Unfortunately, Soupy Sales was a regular panelist from the very beginning of the syndicated "What's My Line?" Thank god for Arlene Francis, the only touch of class remaining from the original series.

by Anonymousreply 253September 25, 2024 10:22 AM

Jorie Livingston was in the road company of Annie Get Your Gun in the 1940s.

by Anonymousreply 254September 25, 2024 10:38 AM

Doesn't the whole world hate Soupy Sales?

by Anonymousreply 255September 25, 2024 3:36 PM

[quote]I remember as a kid in the 60s being introduced to the phenomena that was Carol Channing

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 256September 25, 2024 3:57 PM

Pre-natal gayling, that one! …

by Anonymousreply 257September 25, 2024 4:58 PM

Jack Carter. Dorothy mentions him in the second Joey Bishop MG episode.

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by Anonymousreply 258September 25, 2024 7:17 PM

Jack Carter was the angry/non-funny member of that era’s comic “troup.”

by Anonymousreply 259September 25, 2024 7:19 PM

Even Arlene knew her balls…and strikes!

by Anonymousreply 260September 25, 2024 7:32 PM

Now you have to sign into YouTube to view videos. Bleh.

by Anonymousreply 261September 25, 2024 7:58 PM

R260, Arlene often showed extensive and up-to-date knowledge about sports, especially New York sports teams. I wonder if this had always been an interest of hers, or if she picked it up from Martin, who was an avid sports fan. He seemed to know about almost any sport, no matter how obscure.

Speaking of Martin, he must have been one of the nicest human beings ever. He was unfailingly gracious to everyone (even Dorothy!) and kind and welcoming to the contestants. He was modest and self-effacing, and he obviously adored Arlene. I'll bet he was a charming host as well. I'm always delighted when he shows up as a guest panelist.

by Anonymousreply 262September 25, 2024 10:39 PM

In previous threads people have posted that they couldn't see what Arlene saw in him because he was short and chubby (though he was quite handsome when younger). Clearly, he was a great human being and she loved him. Hell, even in his later years I found him charming and sexy. You just know he would be a considerate lover.

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by Anonymousreply 263September 25, 2024 10:51 PM

R261, that sucks, but isn't it true now of almost all sites? I know X, Instagram and Facebook limit what you can see anonymously. It's all part of the general loss of privacy that everyone just seems to accept, everywhere, all the time.

by Anonymousreply 264September 25, 2024 11:15 PM

Oh now it works.

by Anonymousreply 265September 25, 2024 11:22 PM

The only thing that I liked about Martin was he seemed to have an extreme soft spot for Dottie Mae.

by Anonymousreply 266September 26, 2024 1:14 AM

Jack Carter

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by Anonymousreply 267September 26, 2024 2:46 AM

I believe Jack Carter was the one responsible for introducing Lucy to Gary. Jack was married to actress Paula Stewart who played Lucy's younger sister in Wildcat.

by Anonymousreply 268September 26, 2024 2:49 AM

Sal Maglie

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by Anonymousreply 269September 26, 2024 2:55 AM

Mystery Guests: Tony Bennett and his toupee.

Plus Brian Epstein

Paul Anka on the panel.

Dorothy questioning the Mystery Guest: "Where you at the San Gennaro Festival this year?" and "Have you within the last month or so occupied the Presidential suite at a Middle Western hotel?"

Ya gotta love her.

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by Anonymousreply 270September 26, 2024 3:07 AM

My impression is professional football and especially baseball were watched on tv by entire families back in the 1950s and early 60s. They truly were national pastimes, and the star players (at least seemingly more wholesome than today) were beloved and cherished by millions of fans.

by Anonymousreply 271September 26, 2024 3:07 AM

Duke Snider looks like Ben Affleck.

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by Anonymousreply 272September 26, 2024 3:09 AM

Willie Mays.

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by Anonymousreply 273September 26, 2024 3:11 AM

Paul Anka

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by Anonymousreply 274September 26, 2024 3:27 AM

R274 We all KNOW who Paul Anka is.

by Anonymousreply 275September 26, 2024 3:59 AM

What’s so interesting to me about the sports stars of the era is their lack of visibility. Y. A. Tittle, the then star quarterback of the hometown NY (football) Giants, went unrecognized as an imposter on TTTT.

by Anonymousreply 276September 26, 2024 7:58 AM

YA Tittle

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by Anonymousreply 277September 26, 2024 12:05 PM

In the 1950s (and before) most pro baseball players had other non-sports-related businesses to supplement their paltry salaries in the off-season. Hard to imagine now.

by Anonymousreply 278September 26, 2024 1:33 PM

Like no one knew who the hot Frank Gifford was? Arlene was moist as a snack cake on that episode.

by Anonymousreply 279September 26, 2024 4:50 PM

We were all moist as snack cakes, r279.

by Anonymousreply 280September 26, 2024 6:16 PM

Tittle episode.

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by Anonymousreply 281September 26, 2024 10:31 PM

[quote]My impression is professional football and especially baseball were watched on tv by entire families back in the 1950s and early 60s. They truly were national pastimes,

You can extend that through the late '60s and early '70s, R271, except that by then it was more NFL than baseball. The fact that pro football was played on Sunday afternoons made it a natural for family viewing. You watched with your family as Sunday dinner cooked, and everybody knew the players. We weren't quite so naive about their private lives as people might have been in the '50s, but they were still household names and local heroes.

Then again, you could say the same thing about any popular TV show. There were so few choices that everybody watched basically the same things (including commercials, which is why ad jingles and taglines became national memes-before-there-were-memes). It forged a kind of national popular culture that everyone shared. Shared culture is now long gone, greatly to our detriment.

by Anonymousreply 282September 27, 2024 12:25 AM

The frankfurter lady looks a bit like Jessica Lange.

by Anonymousreply 283September 27, 2024 12:57 AM

It is Jessica Lange. She's 104 yrs. old.

by Anonymousreply 284September 27, 2024 1:00 AM

Paul Anka musta got some good management back then. He went from a shlubby Lebanese kid from Canada to a pocket hottie. Lost weight, got a nose job... the rest is history.

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by Anonymousreply 285September 27, 2024 1:13 AM

He did a lot of Password and was a good player.

Rita and Paul, 60 years ago. And both still working.

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by Anonymousreply 286September 27, 2024 1:37 AM

In R281 Tony Randall says Dorothy is known to her friends as Dolly Mae.

by Anonymousreply 287September 27, 2024 2:36 AM

Carol Channing as panelist.

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by Anonymousreply 288September 27, 2024 2:47 AM

Baker Street musical.

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by Anonymousreply 289September 27, 2024 3:41 AM

I never miss a Fritz Weaver musical.

by Anonymousreply 290September 27, 2024 3:58 AM

Why does the whale feeder wear her hair in that stiff style?

by Anonymousreply 291September 27, 2024 7:44 AM

Baker Street was the first Broadway musical I ever saw. 1965. I was 16 and utterly smitten with all things Broadway after that.

by Anonymousreply 292September 27, 2024 12:57 PM

Carol as panelist.

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by Anonymousreply 293September 27, 2024 3:34 PM

I think last time I linked this episode in past threads I commented on how Carol's sparkly dress must have been a headache for the cameraman.

by Anonymousreply 294September 28, 2024 12:07 AM

last time Carol as panelist.

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by Anonymousreply 295September 28, 2024 4:50 AM

oh no another sparkly dress that flares.

by Anonymousreply 296September 28, 2024 4:52 AM

The Australian wine steward is another one with a helmet hairstyle.

by Anonymousreply 297September 29, 2024 6:34 AM

The syndicated color shows from 1968 on, are not as good, obviously, but I'm watching at the moment, and today's mystery guest was Nancy Powers, one of the Kit Kat Band in Cabaret. And as a bonus, she played the title song on her trombone, accompanied by another Kit Kat member on the piano.

by Anonymousreply 298September 30, 2024 4:28 AM

She was always a show-off

by Anonymousreply 299September 30, 2024 4:30 AM

Nancy in action

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by Anonymousreply 300September 30, 2024 4:31 AM

Nancy wasn't the mystery guest, just a regular guest.

Bennett Cerf was the mystery guest!

by Anonymousreply 301September 30, 2024 4:34 AM

I watched one of the early syndicated episodes hosted by Wally Bruner a few days ago on which the mystery guest was the insult comic Jack E. Leonard, who was about as funny as a cholera epidemic. He was bald but came out wearing a woman's wig, and refused to give a straight answer. After the panel had established that he was a comedian of some sort, he called Arlene "an old bat," which I found sort of shocking. Arlene, to her credit, appeared unruffled and quickly came back with, "Oh, so you're an insult comic."

by Anonymousreply 302September 30, 2024 4:37 AM

Oh, so you’re an insult DL poster?

by Anonymousreply 303September 30, 2024 4:39 AM

R302, Fat Jack, as he was called, came out donning a wig because the prior contestant’s line was that of a wig salesman for both men & women. Leonard was a frequent guest on the network versions of TTTT & IGaS.

by Anonymousreply 304September 30, 2024 5:25 AM

I was prepared to dislike him after reading r302, but I actually found Jackie to be pretty funny. I hadn't seen him before and I don't especially want to see him again, but he was good for the 10 minutes he was on the show

by Anonymousreply 305September 30, 2024 6:38 AM

Jack Leonard as panelist

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by Anonymousreply 306September 30, 2024 6:55 AM

Fat Jack on the Merv Griffin Show.

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by Anonymousreply 307September 30, 2024 12:57 PM

Was Fat Jack gay? He gives off certain vibes.....

by Anonymousreply 308September 30, 2024 1:31 PM

panelist 2

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by Anonymousreply 309September 30, 2024 1:56 PM

[quote] Was Fat Jack gay? He gives off certain vibes.....

Well, for whatever it means, he was married twice & had children. His generation of Jewish/Yiddish comics liked to act swishy at times, to make fun of fagelas.

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by Anonymousreply 310September 30, 2024 2:40 PM

Fegele!

by Anonymousreply 311September 30, 2024 3:02 PM

Fag!

by Anonymousreply 312September 30, 2024 6:15 PM

Sugar Ray has that ugly sexy look.

by Anonymousreply 313September 30, 2024 9:56 PM

A mean fuck—the good kind

by Anonymousreply 314September 30, 2024 10:22 PM

Jack E panelist 3

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by Anonymousreply 315September 30, 2024 10:25 PM

Wow Dorothy guessed the egg farmer lady so well.

by Anonymousreply 316September 30, 2024 11:54 PM

[quote]Was Fat Jack gay? He gives off certain vibes.....

Those are just fat vibes.

by Anonymousreply 317October 1, 2024 10:14 AM

He wasn't just smelling those cookies.

by Anonymousreply 318October 1, 2024 1:03 PM

Jack E panelist 4. This episode is referenced in the previous on R315 when John says Margaret Truman will be replacing Dorothy.

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by Anonymousreply 319October 2, 2024 1:41 AM

It's interesting how some contestants smile when their line is shown to the viewers and others do not.

by Anonymousreply 320October 3, 2024 3:19 AM

Well, basically, it's interesting how some people smile and others do not.

by Anonymousreply 321October 3, 2024 1:07 PM

They basic.

by Anonymousreply 322October 3, 2024 2:06 PM

I just started watching the 1950s episodes, when Buzzr switched to the 1960s/1970s episodes and I was not going to continue, but there is a certain charm to these episodes as well.

by Anonymousreply 323October 3, 2024 4:30 PM

Margaret Truman was a dog.

by Anonymousreply 324October 3, 2024 4:51 PM

She was a star!

by Anonymousreply 325October 3, 2024 5:09 PM

So was Lassie.

by Anonymousreply 326October 3, 2024 6:56 PM

[quote]Margaret Truman was a dog.

She was no Amy Carter.

by Anonymousreply 327October 3, 2024 8:22 PM

In R319 Jack finally corrects John Daly to tell him his name is JACK E LEONARD.

by Anonymousreply 328October 3, 2024 10:14 PM

I liked the sexy nerd Dr. who was doing something or other in a poor place. Arlene was in love. Find that one for me.

by Anonymousreply 329October 3, 2024 10:17 PM

Do you mean Dr. Tom Dooley, r329? That's a fascinating segment.

by Anonymousreply 330October 3, 2024 10:29 PM

Tom Dooley

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by Anonymousreply 331October 3, 2024 10:33 PM

yes. he's the epitome of sexy do gooder nerd.

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by Anonymousreply 332October 3, 2024 10:33 PM

What makes the Dr. especially sexy is he appears to have zero social skills. That can make some people extry cute.

by Anonymousreply 333October 3, 2024 10:44 PM

He's gayer than springtime!

by Anonymousreply 334October 3, 2024 10:57 PM

Wiki

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by Anonymousreply 335October 3, 2024 10:59 PM

I can't believe Hollywood hasn't done a big bio film of Dooley's astonishing life.

by Anonymousreply 336October 4, 2024 2:44 AM

[quote]I just started watching the 1950s episodes, when Buzzr switched to the 1960s/1970s episodes and I was not going to continue, but there is a certain charm to these episodes as well.

Same here, R323! I figured, "That's it for late-night WML episodes." But I'm enjoying them more than I expected to, maybe because I haven't seen the majority of them. Having Arlene there certainly helps.

by Anonymousreply 337October 4, 2024 3:10 AM

Not enjoying the syndicated WML episodes (John Daly was wise to put his foot down on displays), but really liking the syndicated TTTT fare. I wonder why, unlike WML, the earliest years of the syndicated TTTT are not aired on BuzzR. The earliest episodes I’ve discovered aren’t from before 1971.

by Anonymousreply 338October 4, 2024 3:20 AM

[quote]In [R319] Jack finally corrects John Daly to tell him his name is JACK E LEONARD.

Daly should've corrected him right back and called him Leonard Lebitsky (his birth name.)

by Anonymousreply 339October 4, 2024 3:25 AM

The syndicated WML wastes so much time on exhibitions & “Honest Answers,” that the panel may have maybe only a couple of minutes to discover the identity of the MG. The only redeeming feature of the syndicated show is the segment devoted to guessing the occupation of audience members.

by Anonymousreply 340October 4, 2024 3:30 AM

Tiny Tim.

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by Anonymousreply 341October 4, 2024 5:14 AM

The syndicated WML was broadcast from NY, yes? I wonder if by then, it was harder to get bigger movie stars to appear as the MG.

by Anonymousreply 342October 4, 2024 1:28 PM

Who would have been the biggest movie star to appear on the syndicated WML?

I'm waiting....

by Anonymousreply 343October 4, 2024 1:29 PM

[quote] Bill Douglas could've been president. He was among the few who were considered by the party to replace Henry Wallace on the dying FDR's 1944 ticket.

To my critic here, Lawrence O'Donnell makes this very point - how FDR wanted to take Douglas off the Supreme Court to be his running mate - while guesting on John Heilemann's most recently dropped podcast.

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by Anonymousreply 344October 4, 2024 1:32 PM

Thanks for the Tiny Tim clip! Hadn't seen that one before.

Herbert (Tim) was a real musical genius with an encyclopedic knowledge of popular song and old recordings. Like many performers (Jane Mansfield, for example) there was more there than met the eye.

by Anonymousreply 345October 4, 2024 6:40 PM

r344 and it didn’t come close to actually happening. 🙄

by Anonymousreply 346October 4, 2024 7:54 PM

We're really going to have to find some more engaging episodes than those with Fat Jack E. Leonard and dreary Margaret Truman if this thread is to keep going.

by Anonymousreply 347October 5, 2024 2:17 AM

A very handsome and surprisingly short Gene Kelly.

This episode is Jun 23rd 1957, it still shows the antiquated intro animation and music.

The new snazzy intro would debut 3 weeks later.

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by Anonymousreply 348October 5, 2024 2:33 AM

The 3 Irish chefs from La Choy were fun. But were there really no grains in their food? Rice? Noodles?

by Anonymousreply 349October 5, 2024 3:23 AM

The baseball umpire didn't shake anyone's hand when he exited! He just walked past the panel!!

by Anonymousreply 350October 5, 2024 5:19 AM

R349, as I recall, you made your own rice to go with La Choy Chow Mein. It did come with a can of chow mein noodles, though (or maybe those were sold separately), but my memories date to the '60s, not the '50s, so maybe then noodles were not yet available in 1957.

by Anonymousreply 351October 5, 2024 8:40 AM

Jack E as MG, Liberace on panel.

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by Anonymousreply 352October 5, 2024 10:19 AM

Do we like the Dutch piano tuner?

by Anonymousreply 353October 5, 2024 10:24 AM

So disappointing that Liberace's intro to Dorothy is not on the show which would give her comment to him context.

by Anonymousreply 354October 5, 2024 1:13 PM

[quote]Who would have been the biggest movie star to appear on the syndicated WML?

Last night on Buzzr, I saw a syndicated episode on which Olivia de Havilland was the mystery guest. She wasn't guessed correctly until the last minute, after which Arlene kept going on and on to Olivia about having been in touch with Olivia's sister and how she knew Olivia's sister quite well. Didn't Arlene know that Olivia and Joan Fontaine hated each other?

by Anonymousreply 355October 5, 2024 9:33 PM

No. She had no idea🙄

by Anonymousreply 356October 5, 2024 9:36 PM

There's a funny 1950s episode in which the panel somehow manages to get the MG down to just Olivia and Joan and then there's enormous hesitation as to which one to guess first. It was Joan, but I can't remember if she was the first guess.

by Anonymousreply 357October 5, 2024 11:25 PM

Joan Fontaine as MG

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by Anonymousreply 358October 6, 2024 12:26 AM

I'm still always startled how often the MG was rapidly dismissed after being revealed, as in the case of Ms Fontaine. Not a word of conversation heard from her.

by Anonymousreply 359October 6, 2024 12:37 AM

A pity I can't find the 1966 episode where Joan was a panelist.

by Anonymousreply 360October 6, 2024 12:52 AM

But here she is in 1972 as another MG

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by Anonymousreply 361October 6, 2024 12:53 AM

There is a 1950s episode with Guy Madison as MG. I'd like to see that. It is nowhere to be found.

by Anonymousreply 362October 6, 2024 12:54 AM

There is only a clip of Martin and Lewis on the same show.

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by Anonymousreply 363October 6, 2024 1:13 AM

A true lady never signs without her pocketbook close by.

by Anonymousreply 364October 6, 2024 1:21 AM

Jack E As MG 1964

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by Anonymousreply 365October 6, 2024 9:35 PM

the census dog counter looks like Carole Lombard.

by Anonymousreply 366October 6, 2024 9:47 PM

good lord look at Dorothy's fucking hair in this episode.

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by Anonymousreply 367October 6, 2024 10:30 PM

The department store santa claus guy in R365 is cute.

by Anonymousreply 368October 6, 2024 11:01 PM

I wonder if the makeup man Dee Darnay is also Dearon Darnay?

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by Anonymousreply 369October 6, 2024 11:14 PM

Where is the chorus boy from WISH YOU WERE HERE, a Broadway musical that Dorothy's husband Dick produced in 1953?

by Anonymousreply 370October 7, 2024 12:48 AM

Alexis Smith

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by Anonymousreply 371October 7, 2024 3:59 AM

[quote]good lord look at Dorothy's fucking hair in this episode.

Even Arlene's hair seems a little . . . off in that episode. It looks like a wacky combination of two different styles.

by Anonymousreply 372October 7, 2024 4:43 AM

Jack E was actually funny in the R365 appearance.

by Anonymousreply 373October 7, 2024 10:37 PM

The top ten Arlene moments. This kind of woman on TV doesn't exist anymore and won't ever again.

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by Anonymousreply 374October 8, 2024 12:19 AM

Were any of Arlene's plays ever a hit? She seemed to be in a new one every other week.

by Anonymousreply 375October 8, 2024 12:28 AM

Well, here's a review for "Beekman Place" (1964). Closed after 29 performances.

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by Anonymousreply 376October 8, 2024 12:40 AM

That's an ouchie.

by Anonymousreply 377October 8, 2024 12:41 AM

Arlene has 26 Broadway credits. Don't really recognize any of the titles.

by Anonymousreply 378October 8, 2024 12:53 AM

Of her Broadway credits (in which she originated roles) during the WML years, Arlene's ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING, produced by Martin Gabel and co-starring Joseph Cotten, was a moderate hit playing a full season from October to June, probably not a bad run for a straight play back in 1959. Well, 263 performances per IBDB, maybe not a hit.

I thought the all-star 1966 revival of DINNER AT 8 in which Arlene played the Marie Dressler role was a big hit but according to IBDB, it only lasted a few months, 136 performances.

Everything else also just lasted a few months, if that.

by Anonymousreply 379October 8, 2024 1:18 AM

Jack E as MG 1967

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by Anonymousreply 380October 8, 2024 2:53 AM

Back then, R379, if a play ran for a season it was considered a success. In a typical season you might have 90-100 plays open. And most quickly closed. If you could get a couple of hundred performances you were a happy camper. It's only in today's hyper-inflated world that you have to run for years in order to turn a profit.

by Anonymousreply 381October 8, 2024 4:47 AM

Thank you, R374. Arlene enjoyed the hell out of being a girl. She was utterly charming, feminine and an accomplished flirt. She's a delight to watch.

by Anonymousreply 382October 8, 2024 7:20 AM

Who carried some now-retrograde view of the sexes to be expected of someone born around the turn of the last century.

by Anonymousreply 383October 8, 2024 7:31 AM

Jack E as MG in 1968

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by Anonymousreply 384October 8, 2024 8:54 AM

Do you think the wig designer is gay?

by Anonymousreply 385October 8, 2024 8:57 AM

Rainbow hair products!

by Anonymousreply 386October 8, 2024 9:01 AM

I just watched a couple of the syndicated episodes (hosted by Larry Blyden) on Buzzr. What was the most important element of the original network series -- the meticulous playing of the game -- has by this point become almost an afterthought. Every segment, including the appearance of the mystery guests, feels terribly rushed. It seems as though no more than a couple of minutes is allowed for each contestant. The questioning seems to have just begun when Blyden is saying, "30 more seconds." All of this is so that lots of time can be spent on demonstrations and mini-competitions involving the panelists, most of which flops and is completely uninteresting. Extra time also seems to have been allotted for Soupy Sales to be annoying.

by Anonymousreply 387October 8, 2024 10:21 AM

Alan Alda's bewigged gay advance to Gene Rayburn aint funny.

by Anonymousreply 388October 8, 2024 9:17 PM

Ricky Nelson was the prettiest thing that was ever on the show.

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by Anonymousreply 389October 9, 2024 1:15 AM

Ricky is another MG who barely utters a word before leaving.

by Anonymousreply 390October 9, 2024 1:40 AM

I can't hear.

by Anonymousreply 391October 9, 2024 1:46 AM

Curf!

by Anonymousreply 392October 9, 2024 1:56 AM

What luck Ozzie and Harriet had with having Ricky.

by Anonymousreply 393October 9, 2024 2:31 AM

Cute but fucked-up.

by Anonymousreply 394October 9, 2024 2:58 AM

He wouldn’t put out for Sheila Kuehl.

by Anonymousreply 395October 9, 2024 3:03 AM

Oren Long

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by Anonymousreply 396October 9, 2024 4:01 AM

Dorothy guessed 3 of the 4 contestants.

by Anonymousreply 397October 9, 2024 4:29 AM

r376...

[quote]Arlene Francis blinks her eyes more often than David Brinkley, but his lines are wittier.

by Anonymousreply 398October 9, 2024 4:47 AM

Mort Sahl on the panel, Tony Randall as MG

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by Anonymousreply 399October 10, 2024 7:40 AM

The Tony Randall musical.

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by Anonymousreply 400October 10, 2024 10:14 AM

That's Abbe Lane in r400's photo, who appeared as a MG with her (then) husband Xavier Cugat.

by Anonymousreply 401October 10, 2024 1:18 PM

Bebe Gallini!

by Anonymousreply 402October 10, 2024 2:04 PM

I usually hate Tony Randall. A lot. However, on WML I liked him as a panelist.

by Anonymousreply 403October 10, 2024 2:05 PM

Watching the BuzzR overnight of the syndicated WML with host Larry Blyden & panelist Jack Cassidy, both of whom would soon die young due to tragic accidents - or worse.

by Anonymousreply 404October 10, 2024 2:09 PM

Oh, Captain! was better than its reputation. The cast album is delightful.

by Anonymousreply 405October 10, 2024 4:55 PM

Charles Heidsieck

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by Anonymousreply 406October 10, 2024 7:11 PM

Did Peggy Cass come out of the womb looking matronly?

by Anonymousreply 407October 10, 2024 7:22 PM

The bathroom scale man is very smiley.

by Anonymousreply 408October 10, 2024 7:42 PM

[quote]Did Peggy Cass come out of the womb looking matronly?

She wasn't cast as the original Agnes Gooch (on stage and screen) for nothing.

by Anonymousreply 409October 10, 2024 8:59 PM

Oh, Captain!

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by Anonymousreply 410October 10, 2024 9:03 PM

Mort Sahl at R399 wasn't conventionally handsome, but he was sexy and virile.

by Anonymousreply 411October 10, 2024 10:34 PM

I owe R410 a blow job...

by Anonymousreply 412October 10, 2024 10:45 PM

More Mort as panelist.

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by Anonymousreply 413October 10, 2024 10:46 PM

Catholic Peggy Cass was proudly anti-Nixon & liberal in the early to mid-'70s, but her then-views on abortion & gay people would be outside modern liberalism.

by Anonymousreply 414October 10, 2024 11:58 PM

Mort Sahl was sexy but George Montgomery made him look like a gnome.

by Anonymousreply 415October 11, 2024 12:09 AM

George and Dinah were friends with Alexis Smith and Craig Stevens.

by Anonymousreply 416October 11, 2024 1:31 AM

With benefits?

by Anonymousreply 417October 11, 2024 1:54 AM

The young fire hydrant painter at the end of r399 was super-cute! Did y'all not watch until the end??

Also enjoyed the female bull fighter with her hand in a cast.

And what was with that price tag that seemed to land on Arlene's bare shoulder and wouldn't leave?

by Anonymousreply 418October 11, 2024 2:56 AM

[quote]George and Dinah were friends with Alexis Smith and Craig Stevens.

Was Dinah a Sally or a Phyllis?

by Anonymousreply 419October 11, 2024 3:03 AM

Definitely a Sally.

by Anonymousreply 420October 11, 2024 3:05 AM

What you call a price tag is a postage stamp from the samples given to the panel by the paper money printer.

by Anonymousreply 421October 11, 2024 4:50 AM

George Montgomery had a hobby as a wood craftsman and taught Craig Stevens how to build furniture.

by Anonymousreply 422October 11, 2024 5:12 AM

[quote]Was Dinah a Sally or a Phyllis?

Neither. She was a...Tess.

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by Anonymousreply 423October 11, 2024 5:44 AM

[quote]George Montgomery had a hobby as a wood craftsman and taught Craig Stevens how to build furnitur

I knew when I was a kid that George Montgomery made furniture because of the commercials he did for Pledge.

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by Anonymousreply 424October 11, 2024 7:53 AM

r421, thanks. I skipped that segment because the contestant and his job seemed kinda dull.

by Anonymousreply 425October 11, 2024 1:35 PM

Mort panelist. Shelley Winters MG

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by Anonymousreply 426October 12, 2024 2:57 AM

Repeat—repeat^

by Anonymousreply 427October 12, 2024 3:07 AM

Who cares at this point? That Shelley Winters MG segment is one of my all-time favorites.

Mort Sahl was not the sharpest player, was he? I'm not sure if it was because he was trying to be funny, but his line of questioning was so peculiar.

by Anonymousreply 428October 12, 2024 3:23 AM

Mort

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by Anonymousreply 429October 12, 2024 3:31 AM

More Mort

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by Anonymousreply 430October 12, 2024 3:33 AM

They ran out of time so Shelley practically ran off.

by Anonymousreply 431October 12, 2024 5:31 AM

That's a good Nixon joke.

by Anonymousreply 432October 12, 2024 5:34 AM

Mort as MG in 1961

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by Anonymousreply 433October 12, 2024 10:58 AM

Harry B was the first black panelist on the show.

by Anonymousreply 434October 12, 2024 11:07 AM

^ I didn’t know he was Black. When did he decide he was Black?

by Anonymousreply 435October 12, 2024 11:57 AM

the cute lighthouse keeper.

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by Anonymousreply 436October 13, 2024 3:14 AM

Maurice Evans in Tenderloin.

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by Anonymousreply 437October 13, 2024 3:45 AM

He also had just done the Scottish play for TV.

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by Anonymousreply 438October 13, 2024 3:48 AM

Four male nurses.

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by Anonymousreply 439October 14, 2024 1:24 PM

Maurice Evans seemed to be all over 1950s TV, appearing in adaptations of classic British plays on weeknight and weekend specials. I was too young to watch any of them and thus can't remark on their quality, but he represented how the new and unique power of early television often attempted to educate and enlighten the masses.

It didn't work.

by Anonymousreply 440October 14, 2024 1:35 PM

As I've been rewatching so many of these episodes I can help but notice how often the 4th contestant, when there's time for one, often has the most unusual (and therefore amusing) occupation of the evening. But there's always so little time for them to play a full round of questioning.

For example, at r439 it would have been so much more fun to spend more time with the vivacious zipper tester than the young spit-curled Brahmin bull rider or the male nurses.

by Anonymousreply 441October 14, 2024 2:02 PM

I agree totally, R441. It seems like such a waste to throw away a good contestant when there's not enough time to play a full round. I wish they had killed that time by either chatting with the panel, or playing some sort of quickie game like guessing the occupations of audience members.

by Anonymousreply 442October 14, 2024 2:39 PM

It was a low/energy quiz show—not a study in time management.

by Anonymousreply 443October 14, 2024 3:06 PM

But the point is, having 3 contestants for the evening to choose from, why did they always save the best for last? I assume if the 3rd (regular) contestant didn't make it on due to time constraints, they might be invited back for another episode. I wonder if the 3rd contestant was often someone local for that reason.

by Anonymousreply 444October 14, 2024 5:49 PM

[quote] It was a low/energy quiz show—not a study in time management.

Very much evident with the syndicated show. Displays/exhibitions, Who's Who, Honest Answers. And often just two minutes for the MG.

by Anonymousreply 445October 14, 2024 8:39 PM

Arlene has spent a week with her and still calls her Bet!

by Anonymousreply 446October 14, 2024 11:54 PM

An interesting thing about the syndicated shows is that many of the guest occupations would not be so unusual in a few short years. Women in the early '70s were entering many previously male-dominated fields, so the show had a lot of first female teacher at Annapolis, female chauffeurs, female barbers, etc.

In that way, it's a real time capsule of a changing occupational landscape.

by Anonymousreply 447October 15, 2024 2:10 AM

R441, I agree as well. The third contestant's occupation is often one that could lead to the funniest questions or most difficult time for the panel.

[quote] I wonder if the 3rd contestant was often someone local for that reason.

Often, but not always, R444. I wonder how many of the out-of-town contestants on WML were in New York for other reasons as well, especially when they came from far away. $50 wouldn't have covered travel expenses from California even in 1950, let alone 1967.

by Anonymousreply 448October 15, 2024 8:20 AM

rocket plane test pilots.

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by Anonymousreply 449October 15, 2024 10:31 AM

Why did so many men just seem so better looking back then?

by Anonymousreply 450October 15, 2024 2:48 PM

Because they dressed and behaved like men, not boys.

by Anonymousreply 451October 15, 2024 5:10 PM
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