Liz Cheney throws her support to Kamala Harris

Thanks for the good news, OP!!

Hope she brings lots of other folks with her.

Yeah, well, I still don’t, so there!!!!

Cheney had one of the best-selling books this winter (pushing Streisand's long awaited bio off the playing field). She had the top seller all through December, for the holiday season - which means people were asking for the book as a Christmas gift.

This tells me she has a following - probably of non-MAGAs, traditional Republicans. Those, like her, who could never imagine 'crossing the aisle' and voting on the other side.

But she did - and her message to the other traditional GOPers is 'it's best to vote for Harris'.

You can do it one time and only one time. Or, you might just like the results to do it again in the future.

I hope Kamala offers Liz a cabinet post.

Symbolic. If she lives in Wyoming, her vote won't matter one bit.

R6. It may be 'symbolic', but more importantly - it just may be 'influential' to the swing voters.

Remember that 20 years ago she was viewed (quite rightly) as the foulest, most pustulant tumor on the body politic. The Republican party is now too vile for even this horror of a woman.

Just caught the Adam Kinzinger interview on Kimmel from last night (on my DVR) - he said he expected Liz Cheney to declare her support for Harris soon - and looky here ! I guess this was well-planned, and successfully kept secret.

BTW, it was a very good interview which he did. Worth catching (I couldn't find it on YouTube to post).

Here ya go R9

Let's be really honest. We arrived at this point in our society because of her father's antics. The Reagan and the Bush era set us up for failure.

Nate Cohn:

Nationwide, Kamala Harris leads Donald Trump by three percentage points, 49 percent to 46 percent. Across the battleground states, the race is a dead heat. In every state and nationwide, the polling average is within 1.5 points of the result of the 2020 presidential election.”

“In short, the polls finally show the close election that analysts expected a year ago, before President Biden’s candidacy went off the rails.”

R11. That is the important thing about the whitewashing of this woman. I despise Trump and he did more damage domestically than the Bush-Cheney administration did, but Trump didn't call tens of thousands of people in a war to serve his personal psychological/election needs.

LOL what a shock. This should take a lot of republicans away from voting for Trump. All a war mongering oligarch has to do is say they hate Trump and the extremists on Datalounge will love them..

Don't love the Cheneys, I have a long memory. But I do love the J6 work LC did.

[quote] I hope Kamala offers Liz a cabinet post.

R5 Absolutely not! Cheney and Kinzinger are welcome to continue their efforts to discourage persuadable Republicans from voting for Trump. I believe their cause is in good faith, just as I did their roles on the J6 Committee. But let's not forget who both of these people are ideologically and how they voted on legislation in the House. Cheney voted in favor of Trump administration policies 93% of the time. Kinzinger, 99%.

It's good to know that these two each have a conscience, and where safeguarding American democracy is concerned, there's a line that even they won't cross. But it's a low bar. They can continue their efforts because it's the right thing to do -- I trust that's why they're doing so, and that they both take some moral satisfaction in it. That's great. But let's be damn clear, neither one of them is owed political career redemption by the Democrats in return for ANYTHING.

R13 has it damn right.

The Cheneys run the military industrial complex in this country.

The reason they're pissed right now, is because they don't control it at the moment, thanks to the MAGA movement.

Even though I don't mind her supporting Kamala Harris at the moment, it doesn't make her or her family our friends.

Because if given the chance to get back into power in Washington, Cheney and her friends would be Bush/Cheney 3.0.

And I say fuck that.

The enemy of my enemy isn’t my friend. She’s an absolutely rotten human being who refused to support LGBT equality, despite the fact that her sister is a raging dyke.

The entire family is twisted AF.

Better the Cheneys than the MAGAts.

You’re trying to relitigate some bullshit from the 2000s.

Kamala can make Liz Cheney defense secretary for all I care.

[quote] You’re trying to relitigate some bullshit from the 2000s.

[quote] Kamala can make Liz Cheney defense secretary for all I care.

Yes, R19.

Because the Bush/Cheney years had absolutely NO impact on our country today.

You are an idiot of the highest order.

And you can fuck right off, "for all I care."

You're clearly too stupid to live.

Clear and direct line from Bush/Cheney to maga, even the same people are involved

Rory Cooper, a former staffer for the National Republican Congressional Committee and later the White House Homeland Security Council

Joel Kaplan, who became a policy advisor in the Bush administration, and later Vice President of U.S. Public Policy for Facebook, Inc

Matt Schlapp, a former Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-KS) House aide, becoming the White House political director during the Bush administration, and director of the American Conservative Union in 2014.

Roger Stone, a self-described "GOP Hitman" and former member of Nixon's Committee for the Re-Election of the President

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[quote]Cheney voted in favor of Trump administration policies 93% of the time. Kinzinger, 99%.

Thank you, R16 for your post I'm one who had amnesia the past week or so, and forgot all about their voting records. I'm certainly glad they stepped up to the plate today, and I do hope they are able to influence the 'never Trumpers' to vote for Harris. But like you say - they don't need a place in Harris' cabinet.

And I do admire their work on J6 and glad they stuck to their positions - but still, not for the Harris admin.

I don’t see why they’d even accept posts. They’re anti-Dump, not anti-Republican. Underneath they’re still on the opposing team. They just want to get rid of the MAGA stank and get back to the Reagan era - MAGA without the stank.

Good to see so many clear-eyed DLers. The so called "Reagan Republicans" or the "conservatives" are not so far away from Trump. Not at all. In too many cases it's a matter of style, not substance. Trump said and did some pretty outrageous things and they remained silent for a long time. And they voted with Trump 90% of the time. So good for Liz Cheney, but I know what she stands for and who she is. Same with Adam Kinzinger.

Last I checked, Liz Cheney is not angling for a role in the Harris administration.

So, what are you dummies braying about? And what are you gonna do about it? Not vote for Kamala because ... Liz Cheney is supporting her?

This is a pointless thread. Unless you are, for some reason, opposed to Kamala Harris winning this election.

R27. No, no one on the thread has suggested doing any of the stupid things you proposed. What are you going on about.

What R28 said…

And she's also supporting Colin Allred against Ted Cruz.

Thankfully, there's nothing like a woman scorned.

I can't be the only one here who, at least for the debate, would prefer Liz to Kamala.

You are the only 1.

From the family whose patriarch is a war criminal.

'The Sins Of The Father Liz is repeating them all, says America Magazine's Michael Sean Winters. "Shame on Liz Cheney. Of course, we know where she got it," he writes. "Mr. Cheney will go down in history as one of the most sinister men to ever hold office in the United States and it appears his daughter wishes to join him in the annals of political shame.'

Dick is also supporting Kamala.

This is no credit to Harris.

Liz is in this for the long game. If she can be present as the GOP continues to disintegrate, then in theory she will fill in the leadership gap and possibly reclaim power for their dynasty and clan. Her motives are not clean. HOWEVER, she is not a traitor like Trump. They just believe in making money through war, which is super gross, plus they are tribal. So she doesn’t want to be in the Dems administration. Instead, her first task is to destroy Trump, then take back power, then rebuild. It’s a long shot, but there’s no other path to power for her. And if anyone can do it, it’s her.

And yes, they completely shit on the lesbian daughter/sister. Watch the Netflix movie with Christian Bale, it is amazing.

Pukes are finished. Maga has consumed the Republican party which no longer exists.

[quote] Liz is in this for the long game. If she can be present as the GOP continues to disintegrate, then in theory she will fill in the leadership gap and possibly reclaim power for their dynasty and clan. Her motives are not clean.

She has NO future in the party. And she knows it. The party will long continue to be dominated by MAGAts, who will never forgive her for her treachery. Just like the conservatives who backed Barry Goldwater in his landslide loss in '64 never forgave heretics like Nelson Rockefeller.

Look how disgusting you've become.

The war hero and fetid louse John McCain actually voted for Trump after the humiliation Trump gave him! He hadn't the courage of Liz Cheney, a person I've called everything under the sun!

What is stopping Condoleezza Rice and George W and Barbara Bush from stepping forward like Liz and now Dick Cheney? They should!

I don't think we'll be hearing from Barbara Bush anytime soon, r39.

Yeah, R39, but many of the Never Trumpers are OG Never Trumpers. I welcome any & all newcomers into the fold.

I, for one, think Dick Cheney's endorsement of Kamala will actually push some older conservative Repugs to take the leap and vote Dem.

Or, at least, cause them to sit home and not vote for Dump, which is helpful.

I don't expect to hear from those lazy Bushes but maybe Cheney's endorsement will finally cause the Generals Kelly and Mattis to come out and publicly condemn Dump and vote for Kamala and further influence the military vote.

[quote]I don't think we'll be hearing from Barbara Bush anytime soon, [R39].

Ha! I meant Laura Bush, lol.

I'd be thrilled to hear what Ol' Bar would be saying about Trump these days!

^ not OG Never Trumpers.

R17 fuck you you Boris POS. Your dumbfuck maga will get us into a war when Russia and China start taking over countries. You know your talking points are literally published online as Russian troll speak.

[quote]Just like the conservatives who backed Barry Goldwater in his landslide loss in '64 never forgave heretics like Nelson Rockefeller.

Nelson Rockefeller became vice president. So if that is what purgatory looks like, I suspect Liz Cheney will take it.

Rockefeller was appointed Vice President because a Democratic-controlled Senate & House was willing to approve his brand of republicanism. Jerry Ford was then compelled to dump him from the ‘76 ticket because Republican voters could not forgive him his history.

so does her evil father. something I never thought I'd see

I wish Liz ran for president . I respect her , she got run over by the Republican bus we're standing up for what is right.

She already engaged in a Kamikaze mission by running for re-election for her House seat, so there was no reason to do the same in the GOP presidential primaries.

[quote]I respect her , she got run over by the Republican bus we're standing up for what is right.

You serious, Clark?

I'm grateful for her viciously anti-Trump stance--in fact, it's been delicious to watch--but can you imagine a world in which a Cheney is actually POTUS, R50?

*shudders*

Liz Cheney is the establishment version of MTG. You can work with her, but you can't ever trust her.

[quote] Liz Cheney is the establishment version of MTG. You can work with her, but you can't ever trust her.

Tell that to her J6 Committee colleagues.

BTW, gentlemen @ R39 and R40, there is actually a living, breathing Barbara Bush, quiet daughter of Laura and GWB. She is the "fraternal" twin of Jenna, and apparently, she's the smart one -- undergrad at Yale, MPA at Harvard.

Here's a quote from her Wikipedia page:

In 2011, Bush released a video with the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) civil rights organization, calling on New York State to legalize same-sex marriage.[18][19] "I am Barbara Bush, and I am a New Yorker for marriage equality," she said in the brief message, sponsored by an advocacy group. "New York is about fairness and equality. And everyone should have the right to marry the person that they love.'"[19] Bush joined other children of prominent Republican politicians—including Meghan McCain and Mary Cheney—in endorsing gay marriage.[19]

But it doesn't surprise me that you've forgotten all about her.

Well, then let's hear from BB II.

It wouldn't surprise me if we did -- perhaps closer to the election.

BB II will 100% endorse Harris. She has security I’m sure.

I now like Liz Cheney. Do fuck off, ultra-partisan dummies. Heed her lesson. Country before party.

BBs endorsement is irrelevant.

Not the point, idiot R6.

[quote]But it doesn't surprise me that you've forgotten all about her.

I'm well aware of the younger Barbara Bush, Cunterella! Thanks!

She's not who I was talking about, but thanks for your dull speech.

R62 The other one is DEAD, cunt.

It would be nice if the so-called "liberal media" could inform us of the Cheney endorsements-- briefly, very briefly-- without fawning over these greedy, murderous creatures.

Liz Cheney says it’s ‘not enough’ for anti-Trump Republicans to vote for someone other than Harris

Former GOP Rep. Liz Cheney encouraged anti-Trump Republicans and independents Sunday to consider voting for Harris, saying it’s “not enough” to write in someone other than former Trump in the November election.

“Given how close this race is, in my view, again, it’s not enough. You have many Republicans out there who are saying, ‘Well, you know, we’re not going to vote for him, but we will write someone else in,’” Cheney said in an interview on ABC News’ “This Week.” “And I think that this time around, that’s not enough, that it’s important to actually cast a vote for Vice President Harris.”

Asked why she decided to support Harris, Cheney said that she had never voted for a Democrat in her 40 years of voting but that Trump “poses a challenge and a threat fundamentally to the republic.”