What would be the major thing that could make William and Harry reconcile??

OP would have to die in a grease fire.

A 69 session.

Harry topping William would finally do it.

Family therapy with boxing gloves might resolve a few issues.

That BIG angry ginger cock pegging his brother's insatiable hole.

So William is an asshole & Harry is dumb.

That’s what this all boils down to?

They are both insufferably stubborn. I have a brother. I can't imagine not being civil with him and respecting him, overall. Can have disagreements but they shouldn't turn into lifelong grudges.

If OP would do the right thing..

Meghan Markle would have to die. AND Harry would have to “sincerely” apologize to the British people and blame her for his change in behavior. And then just sit down and shut up for about ten years to allow people to forget about everything.

The one thing that could finally make them reconcile would be a thread on DL that would include a poll soliciting worthless opinions.

R10 sad, the minutes OP took typing all that out.

I don’t need her to die, just get off my screen and go sell your $80 jam.

Nothing. They're done. I've seen it in many families. When siblings fall out with such bitterness that lasts a number of years it rarely has a happy ending. People need to give up on the fantasy of some big reunion and return to the good old days.

The media has a vested interest in keeping this going. There are millions of obsessives clicking away, generating revenue for the moguls, who do NOT want a happy ending because they would lose money.

You overlooked the obvious, OP.

Copious, mad sums of money.

The media made more money off them when they were working royals and attending events.

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They have just found another way to spin it out.

How about nothing?

A guided acid trip

OP- Harry would have to stop being

AVERAGE and STUPID

Obvious.

This question keeps me up at night..

The thing is, they were never great pals. That was pure palace-spun hokum.

They tolerated one another. Then Meghan came along, and soon they couldn't even do that. There's never going to be a return to brotherly closeness and love because it didn't exist in the first place.

Harry got away with a lot of bad behaviour( the drugs, dressing up as a Nazi, the Las Vegas naked party, etc.) William, as the heir, had to be beyond criticism and do nothing that could embarrass him if it came to light. They are very different characters. William is much more intelligent for a start. I can’t imagine they were really that close to begin with.

Meghan would have to leave Harry humiliated in a very nasty public adulterous scandal. William could play the "I told you so, bro" card. Harry would retreat into the royal family.

Girls! Girls!

You're BOTH worthless pieces of shit welfare queens living on the taxpayer dime.

GO DIAGF SAP.

Look at Andrew & Charles - their dysfunction is still playing out in public after all these years and Andrew, creep that he is, never publicallly pissed on Chuck's shoes the way Harry did. I suppose when the Harkles (inevitably) get divorced, Wills will take Harry back in the fold to keep him close & out of trouble, but he'll always be on the outside

Probably a combination of four: divorce, death, H's apology, and duct tape over his mouth.

You couldn't contemplate trusting him until she's out of the picture. The fortunate thing is if the spell were to be broken he'd be totally alienated from her, so no risk of blabbing. I believe a detente will be found if they divorce but whatever the closeness was between them, it won't be repeated. If anything, William's bond with his wife and other advisors has probably deepened since the Sussex experience. The family may forgive, I doubt anybody forgets.

A single hair from a nappy pussy can pull an entire cruise ship.

Mel C releases a deluxe 25th anniversary edition of her Northern Star album

Pippa 2.0 returns to Home & Away full-time

When the time comes, I would suggest King William V have his brother arrested and thrown in The Tower. If Harry doesn't repent, well, there are options.

Meghan cheating on Dimbo would play out great.

Then claiming she was forced to do it because he abused her on every level.

Then taking all his money, getting primary custody of the kids.

Then getting ditched by the guy she left Dimbo for.

All as she wears terrible outfits and gives word salad interviews.

Don’t hold your breath.

[quote]I have a brother. I can't imagine not being civil with him and respecting him, overall.

I have a brother. And I can.

"Never say never" is a phrase best appreciated with maturing. Things you're convinced would never occur, do.

Still, the situation between William and Harry is one of those rare instances where I think "Never" applies.

I've used the Harry as Fredo Corleone analogy, but I think the more apt one is William as Michael when he learns of Fredo's betrayal.

It's reported that Harry has been, by back-channels, sending to King Charles requests to reconcile. I wouldn't be surprised if there is something to those reports.

And if they're true, I'm convinced Harry wouldn't be doing that if King Charles were younger and had more vigorous years ahead of him.

What is motivating Harry is the actual scenario - King Charles may not have much time left. He wants to reconcile with his father both because he's his son, but also because he wants money from Charles.

Harry knows that once King Charles is dead, The Big Dog, The Duke of Cambridge, becomes King Michael Corleone.

Of course, William isn't going to physically kill Harry. He'll let him suffer a worse fate - being a permanent familial, social, Royal non-entity.

R26. Harry obviously receives no money from tBritish taxpayers. William does receive some.money, but he has enough private money that I doubt he would miss it any more than he would miss his public obligations if he hadn't been born into them. P

Who cares?

Doubt that it will ever happen. You will see them together for their father's funeral.

I sincerely hope they reconcile, But if I were William, I'd be so pissed off beyond reconciliation because of the way Harry treated Catherine in that book.

[quote] You will see them together for their father's funeral.

The seating arrangements will be interesting.

Pure guessing on my part and with my limited knowledge of protocol but I'll say Camilla at 1st chair.

King William at 2nd chair with Catherine and their children right next to him.

I truly wonder, however, where Harry, and if she attends, Markle, will be seated. Best possible scenario for them would be the next chair after Louis.

Now, cue the aghast! that I'm even speculating about such a ghoulish topic; burying King Charles while he's still alive.

Well, call me a ghoul along with the rest of Charles immediate family and staff.

Anybody who thinks aren't thinking about or haven't already decided on seating arrangements when it comes to William and the Sussexes is naive.

I imagine the family is happy to be rid of him at this point. Harry has probably always been a mental basket case that was a chore to handle. Now that he has thoroughly ruined his own reputation, they have nothing to fear from him. He is now an annoying gnat who is quickly losing any forum in which to spew his venom. I don't wish the king ill, but I cannot wait for King Corleone, as R37 tagged him, to wipe all vestiges of Harry from the family.

R26,

He has to perform public duties, that’s the job, but the Palace significantly overstates the amount of work they all do.

Once William becomes king, he will have no time, literally and figuratively, for Harry and his bullshit, grifting and lies.

The Markles divorcing or not, William will never have any use whatsoever for Meghan (he has none now, but it will get to the point that she doesn't exist), and he will never trust Harry again. So there will always be a great divide between the brothers. William is not Charles. When it comes to his family and the monarchy, William will not soften his view of Harry. Even if the brothers become somewhat civil at some point, their relationship and Harry's place in the monarchy is over.

[quote] I truly wonder, however, where Harry, and if she attends, Markle, will be seated.

On the London Eye.

They'll have a great vista of the crowds from up there!

[quote]I truly wonder, however, where Harry, and if she attends, Markle, will be seated.

R46 has the location about right. In the Siberia behind the "working" family and their collective brood.

R43. You can certainly criticize the amount of work William and Catherine do, but that analysis is ridiculous. The amounts paid cover also the buildings and staff associated with being the head of state or a member of his family. You would find pretty much all of the elected heads of state would receive similarly enormous or even higher "hourly compensation" if you engaged in a similar level of grade school analysis. This also assumes that only the time at the event is actual working time and disregards any preparation or travel time involved. I get paid not just for the meetings I attend but the preparation and travel as well. If the royal were removed, these amounts or greater amounts (because of the cost of regular elections) would continue to need to be paid. And obviously the work-shy arguments they are making against William and Catherine would not work against Queen Elizabeth or King Charles, whose lives were consumed by the role.

There are legitimate arguments for a republic, but brain-dead posts like this one aren't helpful to the cause.

r47, you could be right about that.

But, the only thing that makes me doubt that they'll do that (and, probably, they would like to do that) and seat them more prominently is that they must know it would make them look petty. Harry is, after all, King Charles son and a Prince.

In short, they have to weigh the scales between on one : Yeah, they both deserve to be seated in Siberia. It's what we'd like to do, but we're going to be on world-wide TV and we'll come off looking mean and petty.

With, on the other scale- Harry is the King's son. He is a Prince. The seating arrangements must reflect that. And, in the bargain, William enjoys the appearance of magnanimity and knowing proper protocol, even if they never acknowledge each other's presence.

I think the latter scale weighs a bit heavier.

Threads like this always end up with people who don’t live in monarchies defending their fantasy of how great it must be.

R50. Which posts are those?

Harry will be on the third row of the funeral. Camilla and William and his family will take precedence. Then Charles' sibs and kids will get the next spots. Then Harry.

Behind the fallout between William & Harry.

'Prince William has lost trust in Prince Harry FOREVER!' | Palace Confidential

If Meghan is dead.

I am not one who is obsessively maudlin about Diana, but her sons' mutual realization -- sudden, creeping, dawning, whatever -- that she would be horrified by their behavior and her heart would be breaking over this situation might do it. This bitter break exemplifies everything she detested about the monarchy -- pitting family members against one another for good press, best angles, and heroic story lines. William gets praise for being first born and marrying an attractive woman who was raised to respect the institution. Harry's trauma, meanwhile, was plain for all to see so he ends up with a woman who is a lot like Diana -- maybe a little "woo woo" for the stiff upper lip types, but someone who provides the nurturing that this troubled man needs. I know a few families in which siblings hate one another and it can often be blamed on terrible parenting. In this case, the sensitive and iconoclast was taken from them. Frankly, I think the best (if not only) broker for mending the relationship would be the Archbishop of Canterbury.

I detest the Meghan detractors, especially when even expressing the mildest support for them both (and her especially) results in ad hominem attacks, as if to be so inclined means gullibility and turning a blind eye to someone so wicked and unworthy. That story is at least 90 years old.

[quote]I am not one who is obsessively maudlin about Diana, but her sons' mutual realization -- sudden, creeping, dawning, whatever -- that she would be horrified by their behavior and her heart would be breaking over this situation might do it. This bitter break exemplifies everything she detested about the monarchy...

If that's not excessively maudlin, imagine what is!

Meghan's book with which she collaborated with Scobie (per court records, mind you) and Harry's book Spare provide detailed overviews of several different residences, including Kensington Palace where William and his family resides. These overviews provided the specific layouts including the exact number of steps to reach certain interiors. Harry and Meghan are security risks to the royal family and will never be in their immediate vicinity for any extended length of time ever again. It's amazing the fairytales that some people tell themselves about this supposed 'feud'. It is not a feud, Harry and Meghan are nutters who William is wise to keep at a distance.

R96. I think the rift has more to do with Harry being like Diana than the institution.

R49 R52 When Charles kicks it, will they do that ceremony with William and Harry like they did with Elizabeth where her four children stood vigil at her casket?

I would expect Harry gets a decent seat at the funeral, but absolutely not at William V's coronation. He will probably be told not to attend.

[R49] [R52] When Charles kicks it, will they do that ceremony with William and Harry like they did with Elizabeth where her four children stood vigil at her casket?

Since they let Andrew do it for his mother and he was more disgraced than Harry has been, they would probably let Harry do it.

Who would the other two at the other two of the four corners be, though? Edward and Andrew? Edward and Anne? Camilla's two children?

R62 focusing on the big issues.