Harris/Walz CNN interview watch party

It is beneath the dignity of Vice-President Harris and Governor Walz to be interviewed by corpse media.

Will Gwen and Gus make an appearance?

This is Savannah, Georgia.

The first time a general election presidential candidate has campaigned here since the 1990s.

Folks are ready for ⁦@KamalaHarris ⁩.

Iz she gwana use her fake Blaccent?

Kinzinger and Buttigieg in the Harris Cabinet. That could be an inspiration for some fanfic.

She could give Kinzinger Transportation Secretary and move Pete up the ladder. Obama had Ray LaHood, a Republican, in that position so it's not unprecedented.

Maybe we'll get to see hunky Adam in bike shorts promoting new bike trails! Hubba Hubba! 😍

Susan Dey at R8.

I can see her giving Adam Veterans Affairs.

Adam Kinzinger looks inbred

I get why it HAD to be CNN, but God do I hate that it's CNN.

Will C-SPAN be streaming the interview--you know, since it's the VP?

I hate-watch Fox News for occasional giggles. Today they featured a 59 year old ex-cop living on a taxpayer-funded pension moaning about having to go back to work to live. He said his wife is a retired teacher (another taxpayer-funded pension) who now has to work as a tutor. He whined about how his son and daughter-in-law have FOUR children who need to be babysat by their grandmother because they both have full-time jobs.

This is Trump's MAGA base -- people who are truly unfamiliar with what it means to struggle, who believe they deserve to be handed prosperity on a f*cking platter. That dude retired before 59 when most people of his generation will have to work until about 68. Unbelievable!

R7, Adam is ex-Air Force, so he is likely suited for something military-related. Although Pete was also in the military and he's at Transportation.

What time does it air?

^9:00 PM/ET

Thanks r17

Is there cilantro in this salsa? It’s horrible! Who puts cilantro in salsa?

Alyssa Farah Griffin is sitting on a panel for CNN now, pre- Harris interview. She knows her shit. She's smart, she gives her opinion, and engages with others who are opposite her rather well. She's gotten more screen time tonight for the hour, than she has ever gotten in an hour on 'The View'.

Real Clear Politics updated its polling data to reflect Harris having 270 electoral votes. PA is polling in her column and puts her over the top. RCP uses many right-leaning polls that other pollsters reject.

^Keep the focus. Let's not let up on the peddle...

I can't find where to watch it live! I'm freaking out!!!

You fancy bitches with cable have to post live-updates.

R23 If you have HBO/Max it’s being shown live there

thetvapp.to

Is this the official thread? Where is everybody?

I'm here, r26!

Present

Bingo card: Middle Class

Her team should have demanded much better lighting

Oh! Present!

Opportunity economy.

Thanks R24, watching!

Dana got all the good lighting R30

Kamala really is a striking woman.

Kamala must be EXHAUSTED. Can you even imagine?

Yeah -- she looks tired.

I hope Dana pushes her more on the price gouging policy so she can explain it's not "price fixing".

She's doing very well!

Here’s this network’s typical MO: they just first aired a snippet of Trump’s today’s live onstage event today highlighting how Kamala and Tim are taped tonight and not live as he was—I think a kind of valid point. —The reaction? All their responding panelists went instead with the narrative of “women leaders get attacked” and their (justifiably noted, I agree…) higher bar expectations. But what’s that got do with the question about why these two couldn’t have interviewed live on-the-spot this evening?? [Crickets…]

The lighting is terrible. Suddenly she has no neck. And she should be seated as tall as Walz. The quivering voice is not good.

She does look tired, it's in her face. As stated the lighting here is doing her no favors. Still striking though.

It's so refreshing to hear a presidential candidate who sounds like an ADULT.

WHAT A STUPID QUESTION!

"You've been VP for 3 1/2 years, why haven't you done..."

She's not the president, dumb ass! She helps execute the Biden agenda

My screen says LIVE.

Jeez Walz is such a big guy, they'd have to seat him in a kiddie seat, and give Harris a booster, to get them even. Not sure if that would be a worse visual.

Shhh....THE ADULTS ARE TALKING

If it isn't then CNN should remove that word.

Why do stupid Dems continue to hire Repubs to be in their cabinets? And when will they learn something from the opposition? Do they think it'll ingratiate them with Republican voters?

r44 CNN is broadcasting live but the interview is pre-taped.

Dana Bash looks like a character out of The Simpsons.

How can people hear Toddler Trump and Psycho Vance speak, and hear Harris and Tim Walz speak and think Trump/Vance the winning ticket?! Is it an IQ thing?

She really does, R50, omg

Would be nice if someone interviewed Trump like this.

I think Kamala actually appears nicely St. Tropez-bronzed and tanned this evening. 🌞 😎 🌴

It almost looks like forced perspective with Walz being Gandalf to Kamala’s Frodo.

This is good stuff -- she's been getting a lot of shit about flip-flopping and she is addressing it head on like a sane adult

Me, too, r54.

I like Walz but I'm not sure his presence is necessary.

You'd think the Democrats would have learned by now, R48:

[quote]You knew darn well I was a snake before you let me in."

How long is this going to last? She's saying pretty much the same stuff she said at the convention.

Why does Dana keep cutting her off? This isn't a debate--you can give her the time she needs to fully answer a question.

[quote] Jeez Walz is such a big guy,

[quote] She's doing very well!

I've seen and heard her speak with more confidence and enthusiasm.

She’s doing fine, if not hitting some hypothetical home run. Yes, she does seem tired.

It's a more intimate setting, R62 but you knew this

You people are fucking nuts. She’s doing great.

Walz looks like Don Rickles

R62 Agreed. Dana is making ME nervous. She keeps cutting her off and she's so cold and awkward.

What is with the ads? I thought I had ad free Max. Do you guys have ads?

[quote]but you knew this

Things assholes say.

Even if she passes out temporarily in the middle of this, she's still going to sound more coherent than Trump. She needs to get this out of the way to appease the media, and move onto bigger things that will actually boost her (like rallies, debate prep, town halls etc)

Agree with others that she looks tired. It's been a hell of a five weeks!

She was awesome at the rally today. Was the interview before or after?

{quote}Things assholes say.

Things absolute fucking losers with no life say

Emhoff- She needs to get laid and have a deep 7 or 8 hours sleep.

I can't imagine how exhausting it is to be on the campaign trail.

R68. Yup, I just finished the ad break. I think because it's live.

The “would you appoint a Republican” question is getting heavy rotation on social media

I hope she relaxes and warms up a bit. She does best when she's in "boss bitch with a sense of humor" mode.

Friend of Markywayne and Ivanka Dana Bash is a cunt.

The chair they gave her is ridiculous, it's too low

Drink every time you hear Child Tax Credit

Meanwhile Dump is doing a town hall in Wisconsin saying things like: "Some people don't eat bacon anymore. This was caused by their horrible energy. Wind. They want wind all over the place. When it doesn't blow, we have a problem."

Kamala is fine.

I don’t have cable - where can I watch this online? Will it be on YouTube?

Not engaging on bashing Dump-win

Is anyone else's sound wonky?

Also, Dana, let her finish a goddamn thought.

Nobody says the makes “look tired”

I agree, R82

Seems so far like this interview won't lose her any voters but won't gain her any either. At least it's one attack point ("she won't do an interview") taken off the table.

Dana Bash seems a bit hostile. Not expecting chummy but this is not so cordial either.

Walz is doing GREAT

Tell it Tim! Be proud of your military background!

[quote]Walz looks like Don Rickles

I've been saying this since the night she introduced him as her VP!

White woman vs. Black woman Queen Bee drama, R62, R67, R83.

EXCELLENT job on getting the information out there without getting bogged down in cliches like "Bidenomics". Say what you mean and don't let them define you.

No wonder Bash is trying to cut her off--Kamala is not letting them sucker punch her.

Bash looks like 'My Little Pony'.

R81 if you download the Max app you can watch it on CNN. It costs around $10/month

Yeah, she looks tired but she's doing well.

I don't think her tiredness is going to be a source of criticism of her.

If you want to listen, the free TuneIn app lets you listen to cable news with ads

Walz competely ignored the question about his DUI

They're both giving brilliant responses.

Walz is really good. He’s going to destroy Vance in the debate.

So tired of democrats begging to work with the Republicans.

The same Fascists who would happily destroy this government are not people you should want in your cabinet.

[quote] Meanwhile Dump is doing a town hall in Wisconsin saying things like: "Some people don't eat bacon anymore. This was caused by their horrible energy. Wind. They want wind all over the place. When it doesn't blow, we have a problem."

(Watching it is worse than it sounds)

Kamala is nailing this so far. My confidence in her has risen.

I can't watch it anymore. All those gotcha questions. So boring. I really want Kamala to tell her off.

He doesn’t have a defense, R96.

[quote] Walz competely ignored the question about his DUI

Maybe because a 30-year-old DUI is completely irrelevant.

I'm a bit frustrated...Walz had the perfect opportunity to say he merely misspoke in that gun violence speech, and also to acknowledge the DUI, and say what a wake up call it was and how much it forced him to grow. It could have been a vulnerable moment where he opened up. And he also could have been more straightforward with the IUI/IVF retort.

Those supposed gotcha questions are going to be part of the debate. Kamala is not a good debater.

Yup, r97.

And if this interview elicits yawns from everybody, that's a good thing, that's a win.

Just because Kamala says she'll appoint a Repug to her Cabinet doesn't mean she really will. She's smart, no worries there.

It's not that it's a tough interview--it's just that Dana's questions are so unbelievably cunty and patronizing.

[quote]I don't think her tiredness is going to be a source of criticism of her.

HA! You don't know the unwashed, Della. This will be their topic for at least a week and a half. Rather than saying she looks tired, it will be "she looks old", etc

The questions Dana is asking give Kamala & Tim a chance to retort as these criticisms are out there and widely circulated by the rightwingers and heard by swingvoters

[quote]Just because Kamala says she'll appoint a Repug to her Cabinet doesn't mean she really will.

Doesn't matter. Republicans would NEVER give Democrats such leeway.

This "olive branch" shit is why people were never keen on Biden. Don't repeat his mistakes.

Bash, meh, whatever, who cares?

Harris and Walz are doing well. They should do more of these and their answers will get better.

I don’t see these as “gotcha” questions, Bash is asking questions related to the main criticisms levied at Kamala since her wildly successful campaign started. Kamala is getting an opportunity to answer the questions on her terms, unlike on the debate stage, where that hulking mouth breather will be waiting to pounce on every word.

Kamala is doing a GREAT job.

Nice, thoughtful, fluid responses from Kamala. This is a hell of a lot better than any Trump/Vance bs. Zero embarrassing moments.

The questions are fine. They’re supposed to be tough to get some thoughtful answers.

R109, They are incisive questions.

R99 Where did you see democrats begging to work with republicans ?

Harris simply answered a question, and said she would put a republican in her cabinet. No begging went on in any way.

R101 I'm with you 100%.

Oops, “leveled” is what I think I meant. Not “levied”. Carry on.

The next eight years are not going to be kind in the aging of President Harris. She looks so tired after this past whirlwind month.

Perhaps time to choose: the face or the derrière.

[quote] The chair they gave her is ridiculous, it's too low

Siri says Ms Harris is 5’ 2”. Heels don’t work sitting down.

I love how her face and tone shifted from smiling and then to serious when she conveyed how momentous and serious that was when Biden called her to tell her he was withdrawing.

[quote]It's not that it's a tough interview--it's just that Dana's questions are so unbelievably cunty and patronizing.

It's because she is not asking the questions that she wants to. Bash is asking questions that the unwashed (and her bosses) want to be addressed. Guess what? It still won't be good enough for them.

39 year old DUI? Come on, Dana.

I’ll stop balking when I hear someone say “So Mr Trump, in 1989 you bought an entire page in the New York Times to call for the execution of a group of innocent black men. What do you have to say for yourself?”

Gee, a shame Kamala doesn't look "younger than spring time and twice as exciting," like bronzed beauty Donald Trump!

Bash is centering the white conservative narrative with some of her silly questions. The nerve of her to ask Kamala what she thinks of The Orange Vomitbag's statement's about her race. Who the fuck cares what he thinks? Or JD Vance, for that matter, who she also asked about Kamala's race.

That's our GUS!!!

OK, I'm verklempt (again) with the Gus Walz moment.

HA! Others are catching it too!!!

sami sage @samisagesays·13m

the CNN interview summarized:

Dana Bash: why did you [right wing talking point]?

Harris/Walz: because [answer they've given 5+ times]

Dana Bash: but is it because [right wing talking point]? have you changed your mind on [right wing talking point]?

Wait that was it?

Dana Gash is a raging CUNT

The tougher the questions the better., Get her ready for the debate with Trump. Harris came across as very likable.

I think Kamala was making an effort tonight not to be abrasive and confrontational. It's not the Prosecutor Kamala we've seen before, and we'll see at the debate.

[quote]Harris simply answered a question, and said she would put a republican in her cabinet. No begging went on in any way.

Either they're the party who has stood by and enabled fascism or they're not. You can't sugar coat this anymore.

Harris should have simply said no and brought up Trump's first term and complete Republican party approval as a reason why not.

That aside, it was a great interview, she's a strong candidate.

[quote]Just because Kamala says she'll appoint a Repug to her Cabinet doesn't mean she really will.

If the Republicans win the Senate 51-41, Kamala will get Susan Collins into her Cabinet. Susie is thirsty as AF and Maine has a Democratic governor. Senate goes 50-50.

No rethugs in her cabinet!

And NONE in the House OR Senate! Fuck those fascist, white nationalist cunts!

Kick them ALL to the curb so we can get shit DONE.

I think she’s a little taller, R121, maybe 5’4”. She carries much taller to me, I was surprised to learn she’s not 5’8” at least.

Thank you, r93 I have hbo . Found it! Thanks

Both sides "trolling"

Italy's fascist "girl boss" PM is also petite:

She’s 5’4” according to my sister who knows her from California politics …my sister also being that height. She favors a high-ish heel.

Harris and Walz were very effective and relatable in that interview. Of course Scott Jennings has to shit on her after with his own bias. He’s worthless but that’s CNN today.

At least she's as tall as Putin, although I doubt President Harris will ever meet him personally.

Actually, Kamala almost always wears heels that are only about 2" high with her pant suits.

IMO Pete should take either one of these two positions: White House Chief of Staff. He would be outstanding. And the second job would be head of the VA. They have the biggest budget in the federal government outside Defense Department. Now as for the question about would you ever appoint a Republican, it was a silly question. In the VP's words, "Unserious." Every single President in recent memory and I go back to Carter, has had Republicans somewhere in their administration. This is America, not some fucking parliamentary democracy where one party rules. BTW: I loved her answer:Same old shit! Next question?"

[quote] Harris says she'll be choosing a Republican as a cabinet member.

I think she said she was open to having a republican in her cabinet.

I adore Kamala and love her fashion style but grey and tan/beige/peach are not her strongest colors on camera.

Please stop with the Chief of Staff nonsense. TIA

there’s a too long thread with plenty of posts explaining why it’s a bullshit idea that will never happen.

R137 - control of the Senate is central to getting anything done.

R143: i loved it when the woman sitting next to Scott gave him that virtual face slap in response to his quip about VP Harris's refusal to admit President Biden was incapacitated.

Heh heh

Her style is fine. Neutral works. I loved her silver flag pin.

Jennings is a cunt.

Thank you, R149. Chief of Staff is arguably the second most powerful person in the free world. On what planet is Pete (beloved as he is) qualified for that role?

The word Pant Suit needs to be retired now. It sounds ridiculous. Of course there’s pants. It’s a suit. Calling a suit a pant suit is sexust. It sounds like something old people say. Kamala isn’t trading on her femininity. She doesn’t need diminutive names for her clothing.

[quote]Kinzinger and Buttigieg in the Harris Cabinet. That could be an inspiration for some fanfic.

I'm already firing up my Kindle!

Damn, Scott, let it go with the Biden fitness already; have you not noticed the lady in red having taken off one earring?

PMs of Britain and Japan, Chancellors of Germany, and Presidents of France probably have something to say about that, r149.

Both Dubya & Obama had members of the opposing parties in their Cabinets.

Pantsuit differentiates from a woman's suit with a matching jacket and skirt. Calling both garments "suits" is imprecise.

[quote]The word Pant Suit needs to be retired now. It sounds ridiculous.

It does.

The rest of the world uses the French and calls it a tailleur.

R158 please tell us what they say about Pete B. being the best person to serve as Harris’ CoS. We are all ears!

wtf?…

So did Clinton, R159!

[quote] I hope she relaxes and warms up a bit. She does best when she's in "boss bitch with a sense of humor" mode.

Like HRC, she struggles with how to present herself in a manner that is not emasculating or frightening to men. She is employing an unnatural restraint and it shows in her overly cautious, careful and bland responses.

But the skirted version (which has all but gone the way of the bustle) isn't called a "skirt suit," R160, just a suit, erroneously.

She did ok. She looked washed out. Tired. Subdued in her responses.

Meanwhile Trump was at a rally sounding like a raving lunatic.

R164, all women struggle in that regard. At least, we used to. Male fragility.

It’s a suit. The end. Stop making it diminutive.

No doubt donald will look for any opportunity to attack VP Harris's femininity, R164.

[quote]"No Sir," they told me, "you cannot call her a bull dagger."

Women can't be strong, weak, funny, gentle, without making guys dicks fall off. The older I get the more I realize that men hate women for anything but fucking and subjegating

If you work in the fashion industry or if you're a costume designer in theatre and film, if you're a tailor, you need terms to differentiate between those two ensembles. I guess for everyone else, it needn't matter.

Funny you mention that, r170.

This meme has always made laugh.

If she becomes president, she may pick a woman Chief-of-staff.

Otherwise, if she goes with a man, my money is on Eric Holder.

The bots are going crazy on Reddit, which tells me she killed it.

You’re wasting money then….

Correcting my R157: "the lady in black" (not red)

This fucking infuriates me. I turned it off. How dare those fuckers at CNN or anywhere else deign to evaluate and critique Kamala HArris, and how dare Dana Bash ask questions and cunts like Jennings talk about Biden and HArris or HArris answers or demeanor, or WTF ever? They have ben SHIT journalists and the coverage of the campaigns has been embarrassing. Those fuckers give Trump who was so addled tonight Fox deserted him, they give him a free pass all the fucking time. It has become policy and common practice to go easy on Trump and they pretend they're serious by grilling and evaluating HArris and Walz? Fuck them. FUCK THEM. I have no more fucks to g ive. Then they talk about how much sharper HArris will become as a candidate if she does more interviews. LOLOL! T hose umb fucks try to trap HArris with gotcha questions, and try to trap her "flip flopping" on positions which is bullshit. I hate them all so much and she is too smart and shrewd and classy to fall into their traps. In fact I thought she was too nice and too patient. I love her when she is her natural self.

She did welI. I wish she WOULD commit to banning fracking.

R178 Same. She wishes she could too. But if she says it, she loses PA.

She was knowledgeable, diplomatic, quick and fabulous. Terrible staging and lighting and she didn’t seem to give two fucks which made her all the more lovable.

The proverbial interview cherry is broken and now we can move forward.

She continues to impress every day.

Let Trump do podcasts, he is yesterday's news.

DL Republican boyfriend Adam K will be in her cabinet and the DL gets more of him. Everybody wins.

In reply to the question about his DUI, Walz said he owns his mistakes, so he didn't dodge it. It is on the public record that he quit drinking alcohol after his arrest, and offered to resign his teaching position.

A 30-year-old DUI vs. a sex offender with 30-plus felonies who bankrupted a casino, cheated on every wife he’s had and led a traitorous insurrection.

How are we even debating this?

Dana Gash is a piece of shit.

That DUI is the most relatable thing about him. Who among us, amirite?

You forgot traitor, insurrectionist, liar, grifter, thief, fraudster and on and on and on

Walz truly is the anti-Trump. It’s obvious why Kamala chose him.

He inspires loyalty and camaraderie and trust. So much empathy and decency yet not to be fucked with.

He’s going to pulverize the sad, fat otter.

Do NOT liken Trump to the dollfaces that are otters ever again. Or else.

It was obvious throughout the interview that she was very pleased with her choice of Walz; and that they like each other.

She looks so... normal here. Like a regular working class mom. Compare her to the orange clownface just on a superficial level and the contrast could not be starker.

I sure hope not. Robert Gates was a terrible choice for Obama for token.

This is the best party ever!

"That DUI is the most relatable thing about him."

It's not the blowjob- it's the LIE.

r74 Agreed. Doug needs to fingerbang her well and good so she can get at least 8 hours of 💤💤

Predictable: "A Vague, Vacuous TV Interview Didn’t Help Kamala Harris."

[quote]If Trump’s team was hoping for something here to change the momentum of the race, this wasn’t it.

Dana Bash would never ask why a candidate with 34 felonies, who reports to a parole officer, why he is on the ticket.

Dana Bash will not ask why this candidate chose to perform a photo opp in a cemetery for fallen service men and women, against protocol , causing problems for the staff.

Dana Bash will not ask this same candidate why a binder of classified data regarding election interference from 2016 went missing during his last few weeks in office is. "missing".

No. CNN. Ever.

My cousin Julie was feeding Dana Bash questions all throughout the interview.

Dana Bash would never dare interrupt her Orange Jesus, either.

Dana Bash, friend of Ivanka and Markywayne, would never press Orange Jesus on the nuclear secrets he stole that he kept in his bathroom, the fact that he can't string together a coherent big boy sentence, or that he shits himself.

Dana Bash is a disgusting hack.

Dana Bash will not ask this candidate why a binder of classified data regarding election interference from 2016 went missing during his last few weeks in office.

No. CNN. Ever.

CNN hosts were worried about President Biden's cognitive state after his performance during the debate with orange.

They are not worried about a parolee running for office.

They're not worried about an adjudicated rapist running for office.

They're not worried about an insurrectionist running for office.

They're not worried about the oldest candidate to ever run for office, who wears adult diapers and falls asleep in public.

No. CNN. Ever.

BINGO!!!

Simon Rosenberg @SimonWDC

Journalism is more than reading Republican talking points and asking Democrats to respond to them.

R195 He wrote that headline 5 weeks ago. He was never going to write anything else.

Journalists are playing a very dangerous game right now. They are encouraging right wingers to make up more outrageous lies to drown out the truth. Vance could accuse Harris of raping 2 monkeys and a giraffe at the LA zoo and CNN and the NYT would earnestly ask her to defend herself. They would never ask Vance for evidence or proof or even mention it while interviewing him. He would be lobbed soft ball questions and allowed to tell blatant lies while Donnie calls for the jailing of journalists.

Have they never heard “Might as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb.” MAGA is never going to accept CNN as unbiased. Trump is never going to stop calling them fake news. He’s never going to stop putting journalists in danger by calling for their imprisonment and pointing them out to his crowds. So why not justify his hatred? No wonder Kamala said turn the page on the last 10 years. The orange one is always in the room. Always.

[quote]The orange one is always in the room. Always.

I knew I smelled something.

[quote]The nerve of her to ask Kamala what she thinks of The Orange Vomitbag's statement's about her race. Who the fuck cares what he thinks?

Kamala showed she didn't care - she shut down the question in less than seven seconds. That threw Bash off her tracks because she was expecting a detailed answer from Harris, which would open the door to more racial questions by Bash. But that didn't happen - Harris had zero interest in Trump's opinion about her. And she let the millions of viewers know that.

[quote] He’s never going to stop putting journalists in danger by calling for their imprisonment and pointing them out to his crowds.

My feeling is that most American journalists do not believe him and/or that such a thing could ever happen in this country. I think that until a journalist is actually severely hurt (or killed) will the "Aha" moment hit. But in their defense, I believe that most Americans are not really cognizant of what we're really dealing with here (Trump) and that an authoritarian government is closer than what we would like to think.

While I can't remember the name of the company (it was some technology company somewhere in California) I'll never forget that once Trump was elected, the CEO of that company, had all of the company's data moved out of the USA to Canada for safety and security's sake. That guy knew exactly what was possible and what was coming. I've also written here that (IMHO) this is no longer just about Trump but much more about the many enablers that are supporting his ideology.

That interview was a success.

It was dull and informative, and it showed both Harris and Walz to be miles ahead of Trump/Vance in demeanor and smarts and all presented without hoopla.

Most Americans are sick to death of Hoopla. That's why Harris pick of Walz was shrewd, smart and just plain right.

We're in the post - Hoopla hangover phase. All everybody wants is quiet and to nibble at some crackers.

It's too bad that Harris didn't talk about the low gas prices we're having this holiday weekend (one of the most traveled of the year with everyone 'coming home' from summer vacation.

I'm glad that most people caught this--except many of the social media and news pundits. We still have an "entertainment" mindset. We seek to be entertained rather than informed. Thus, all the hype about the debate.

Zerlina Maxwell @ZerlinaMaxwell

I took notes to keep track of the questions in the Kamala interview.

Only 4 questions weren’t a GOP attack or talking point in the form of a question.

How does this type of interview help voters understand her policies at all?

[quote]How does this type of interview help voters understand her policies at all?

That wasn't CNN's aim R209. Their aim was to catch her off guard with "gotcha" and "wedge" questions and to have Kamala stumble in a spectacle which could be played over and over ad nauseam. For ratings and to a lesser extent - to sink the campaign. CNN is as unwatchable as Fox News.

As long as Don-OLD Dump is a candidate, there will be no such thing as an issue and policy election. I am dumbfounded by those that claim to be still undecided because they don't know what Kamala's policies are. We know full well what Don-OLD stands for, and we have a pretty good idea of what life will be like with Kamala Harris. The choice is quite obvious if one cares for our democracy.

And we thought Kamala looked (understandably) tired. Get a load of this unemployed retiree

I can't beleive his campaign released this video of him. He looks tired and winded.

We cannot forget that tRump just yesterday was discussing blow jobs with references to Kamala and Hillary. Both Kamala and Hillary are infinitely smarter, much better looking, and totally human - unlike himself. THIS is the bar Kamala has to work with. The press really needs to STOP!

R5 Ho please. She grew up partially in Oakland and attended Howard University when DC was still chocolate city.

Why do Dems talk about the “Climate Crisis” in a general election? Just shut up about it until you get into office. All it sounds like to independent/ moderate voters, is raising taxes and job killing policies.

Harris has to sound a bit more moderate. She has said nothing about crime and honesty nothing about illegal immigration. She is allowing Trump to use the same playbook he did in 2016. Trump is saying illegal immigrants are taking black jobs, no response from Harris. Black males already have doubts about Harris, and she is giving Trump an opening.

Your fake exasperation, r217, is funny and so obvious, Trumper.

What are black jobs? Do you mean low skill, low pay jobs?

Chocolate city jobs, according to the discourse here…

I gave up drinking after my arrest, too.

I hope people realise the corporate media is still puffing up Donald Trump and exaggerating his support, as they have been all along.

Just don’t be surprised on Election Night when Harris/Walz win in a landslide before the Trump campaign even has a chance to file one suit. The silencing of Trump is going to be pretty swift.

[quote]Once again without his soulmate Melania.

Those two lovebirds must just be aching for each other's touch!

I think that, too, r222 but I didn't have the guts to just say so.

Tip of the hat to you.

You do understand that lawsuits will come before the landslide (of which there won’t be one, landslide that is).

R218 He is right. The purpose of campaigning is to get votes. This is why democrats stay losing even though 80% Americans support their stance on the economy. Your job is to get votes 3 months before an election that is basically in a statistical tie.

Climate change is not going to decide not NAY swing state or undecided person at this point. I haven’t seen the interview so I don’t exactly know how the conversation played out and the way in which it was brought up but in general discussing climate change for this election is a loser.

[quote]Why do Dems talk about the “Climate Crisis” in a general election?

Is not talking about it, going to make it go away? I hate that we've reached a point where actual science is now controversial, but talking about the magical angel in the sky who decides our destiny is expected.

R227 Lets win the election first. And then talk about it. Half of independents don’t even believe in climate change. It’s sad but it is what it is.

R226, what the hell are you talking about? Dems stay losing? Except for 2004, Dems have won the popular vote since 1992.

It’s all right to talk about climate change. It’s probably not a deciding factor in this election cycle. Nobody is going, “I really wanted to support democracy…but then they mentioned climate change.”

Also, only flat earther morons believe climate change is a hoax and they are already firmly in Trump’s column.

R226 et al aren’t paying attention. Harris/Walz are not vying for the same finite number of mythical voters known as “independents”. They are engaging new voters who are out of reach of the Trump campaign - which is another reason why the MAGA party is trying so hard to disenfranchise voters in swing states.

R229 But they didn’t win the EC Blanche, they didn’t.

[quote] Ok, twat. Did I pronounce that correctly?

R230 Ok fair points.

R232 Banning red meat and gas vehicles? That ho needs her Valium prescription readjusted.

Fox calls the interview "Dishonest." What's interesting is that msn.com is running it. The billionaires are doubling down on Trump, but why? he's lied to them too.

R218, R217 here. if you think I am an obvious Trumper, then you need to get your head examined.

Harris talking about the “climate crisis” is not going to help her win Pennsylvania. And Trump has tapped into the anger within the black community and working class whites about illegal immigration…again. Sure he is full of shit, but Harris can’t ignore it.

Since Trump is running the same playbook he ran in 2016, the Harris campaign should be ready for it.

tax cuts

Climate change is a huge concern amongst young voters.

[quote]By and large, climate is not a driving force at the macro level of American elections. But it's an issue that is top of mind for young voters across party affiliations. People of color, who are often most affected by the impacts of climate change, and women also consistently say the issue should be a priority.

[quote]And Trump has tapped into the anger within the black community

You're right about that, instead of 98.3% of black people voting for the democratic ticket. It's now going to be 98.1%

R231, they didn’t win the elections because of the electoral college, The fact is that Dems DO have the votes because more people support their policies. Including those on climate change.

There is a way to talk about the climate crisis and that's to highlight that it's hitting working and middle class consumers in the pocketbook. Home insurance rates are out of control thanks to a variety of natural disasters and threatens home ownership.

R229 also I wasn’t only talking about the presidential election.

Republicans create a problem (black unemployment) and then blame it on the left. Same old shtick.

She didn’t bring up the climate crisis and she made it clear that she’s committed to green energy (which creates new jobs) but she will not he banning fracking. She answered well.

Illegal immigrants take the worst jobs when they first arrive. Legal migrants on short term visas take jobs that locals will not do for the salary and conditions offered. The working class and the under class have a genuine problem finding dignified work. They are not going to labor on construction site for $80 cash per day - an illegal will. They are not going to slaughter cattle for $9 an hour in Nebraska. A legal migrant will.

Pelosi had a great saying in 2018. She said “it’s not a wall between us and Mexico. It’s a wall between his supporters and the truth”

Black people know he’s full of shit and they resent that he think they are suitable only for awful factory jobs and construction work. The white working class is more susceptible to his message but they also know deep down that “building a wall” won’t fix anything. The only employer left in Middletown is not going to pay $30 an hour with paid sick leave and the landlord is not going to reduce rent so they can save for a home. Legal migration will increase. And worse still. Legal migrants hired as ICs so they can screw everyone in both holes.

Can Harris win the white working class? No but she can eat into some of his support without obsessing about illegals but that’s not the source of their problems. Can she win “black people”. Yes, and she will.

[quote] The billionaires are doubling down on Trump, but why? he's lied to them too.

They know that they have that magic paper that will keep him honest... I mean do whatever they tell him to do. MONEY!

Just as their money can place him into power, it could make it very difficult or damn near impossible for him to remain in power.

It’s nice that Bash could take a break from her job with the RNC to conduct this “interview.”

[quote] She is allowing Trump to use the same playbook he did in 2016

More like, she's goading Trump into using the same tired old playbook he did in 2016.

[quote]Harris talking about the “climate crisis” is not going to help her win Pennsylvania. And Trump has tapped into the anger within the black community and working class whites about illegal immigration…again. Sure he is full of shit, but Harris can’t ignore it.

She isn't...

Andrew Arenge @MrArenge 12h

NEW: Harris campaign is in the process of launching a whole bunch of new geotargeted digital ads. They're all running in very specific zip codes in swing states. This 🧵will go through the latest digital ads from the campaign. First one is called Opportunity.

FABULOUS IDEA & STRATEGY!

Believe-it-or-not, there are plenty of folks in western PA who'd like to see a ban on fracking.

Yes R219. That's exactly what Trump means.

Trump only *has* one playbook. That's not a good thing...for Trump.

The categories of Trump voters:

Maga/True Believers - Poor/Middle Class, usually white or white adjacent, think he's a billionaire genius. Drunk the Kool-Aid. Like the uber-masculinity and shit-talking. Some, not all, think the blacks have gotten too uppity and the browns too close. Most would not call themselves racist.

Certain Billionaires - They think he's a bumbling buffoon they can control with money, and in return, they get tax breaks and deregulation.

The any Republican is better than any Democrat types. They would vote for a cockroach with an R after its name.

That about sums it up r253

What she should have said was that she's all for fracking, as long as it's safe and doesn't effect the water supply or people's health.

[QUOTE]doesn't effect

Hmph!

Yes, most of the questions were "MAGA talking points", i.e. "these are things she needs to answer in an interview!!" So, she was asked and she answered. Ultimately the content of questions and answers were pretty anodyne.

I thought the primary goal of the interview was accomplished: the person you've seen in speeches is the same you see in an interview. That person is serious and can act and seem like an adult, a President.

I also thought there are two things I like that further her case to be our President: her looking "old and tired" made her seem Presidential. Her strength in cutting people off is adult and no-nonsense. The moments when Gaza protesters interrupt: "I'm speaking" Bash asking about the Trump race-baiting she's not black: "Same old playbook. Next question." Adult, strong, Presidential. Check.

Agree Harris needs more pithy answers to questions on fracking or the border. But she seems presidential and Trump does not.

Yup, r257.

Claudio Pardo, Indira Ghandi, Golda Meir, Margaret Thatcher, Angela Merkel, Q E II, the list of the numerous countries around the world who have ben lead by women, who looked tired a time or two, is to point out "American Exceptionalism", alright.

We're Exceptional for still nursing internalized, irrational fear of female leadership.

R257 reasonable and, for pure political effect, most on point, thus far.

You aren't fooling anybody, r217.

Hollywood Reporter:

The Harris-Walz interview drew 5.99 million viewers, CNN's best performance in the 9pm hour since June's Biden-Trump debate.

It outdrew the combined totals for rivals Fox News (2.58 million viewers) and MSNBC (1.31 million) at 9 p.m. on Thursday.

R7 is rather see Adam Konzinger promoting treasure trails than bike trails.

Kinzinger seems like a natural for Secretary of Veterans' Affairs. If there's ever a position that should be as nonpartisan as possible...

Why didn’t Dana ask about this?

[quote]It outdrew the combined totals for rivals Fox News (2.58 million viewers)

And that's why they're (the unwashed) are PISSED! I mean... they're REALLY, REALLY, PISSED to pisstivity!!! This interview was to "get" something... anything on Harris but she came through. Below is a typical response...

Meghan McCain @MeghanMcCain·5h

A lot, and I mean a lot of you are really embarrassing yourselves lauding praise on the CNN/Harris interview basically saying it was amazing because she didn't vomit on herself or start maniacally laughing like Joaquin Phoenix in the Joker.

It was a softball, waste of time.

Moo McMain is such a sad, jealous bitch

[quote]Moo McMain is such a sad, jealous bitch

Who is her audience?

Her audience is the 250 people who bought her memoir.

R269 If that ho ever came for me on social media I would simply posts them books numbers in every response. I wouldn’t say anything else, just a screenshot of the book numbers. I’d have that cow crying harder than them bitches at The View did.

R255. You are correct. I don’t know why they didn’t think of that answer. Take the same approach the Dem Gov and US Senators have taken when it comes to fracking,

R266. They were so hoping for a gaffe. They got nothing but Trump causing a firestorm with his abortion answer and disastrous JD Vance appearance this morning.

"The future of the world may depend on what a few thousand Pennsylvania voters think about their grocery bills"

[quote] Dana Gash is a piece of shit.

lol Dana Gash I love it. I'm going to start calling her that.

Ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome to the stage, DANA GASH!

Misogyny, even in use of good wisecrack, is still misogyny.

The tour will make at least 50 stops in red, blue and battleground states in the next couple of months, the campaign announced. Surrogates will focus on talking to voters about Harris and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz’s (D) plans to restore the protections of Roe v. Wade, which was overturned by the Supreme Court in 2022.

I’d like to see surrogates hitting PA hard. Shapiro. Some of the congresspeople. If she could win PA it’s like going 2 up in tennis. We’ll all be able to go to bed on the 5th.

[quote]Their aim was to catch her off guard with "gotcha" and "wedge" questions and to have Kamala stumble in a spectacle which could be played over and over ad nauseam. For ratings and to a lesser extent - to sink the campaign.

Do they really think she's as dumb as Sara Palin, where they'll easily get her in a 'gotcha moment' ?

How can I find out where she'll be in Florida, and when? I want to go see her if I can.

Once again Kamala is showing what real leadership is. I like the way she looks at Coach Tim. Such a good person. No wonder America is behind her.

Trump just had a rally today in Johnstown, PA at the 1st Summit Arena, which has a capacity of 4001. Sad!

Wasn't he in Johnstown already?

R279 I second this. Has anyone been to a rally? Where do you sign up and find information on the venues? I don’t see anything on her website. It looks like she’ll be coming my way too and I don’t want to find out she’s here in a tweet an hour before the event starts.

R279 R283 For those who want to attend one of her rallies, I believe she has her schedule updated regularly on her social media and her official website. The details should be there on how to attend / get tickets.

Nothing on KamalaHarris.com.

Dollars to doughnuts I bet that when he does say the N word that he'll then argue that he's allow to say it because she said mean things about him first.

Holy shit:

Harris's answer in R287 was the perfect response. Had she engaged in this preposterous and racist question then it would eat up a whole news cycle. Exactly what Trump wants. And apparently what Politico wants too.

R287 For those who watched the interview, we all know she evaded nothing. She wasn't going to waste her time on lies Trump started. Bravo to her !

R212, "limp" is accurate to describe CNN

r275 is a dickhead.

DID you know orange is a first generation who married two illegals? Orange had me fooled, the way he carried on about MAGA, I thought he descended from the Mayflower.

Orange screams MAGA and offers ass mouth & pussy to Rusher.

CNN was taped in the afternoon and edited. What was missed they didn't want us to see? Eagerly awaiting "The Live Debate."

Rusher didn't take anything, items were sold.

[quote] Ms. Cheney, who continues to describe Mr. Trump as “unstable” and “depraved,” has decided that September will be her moment to weigh in, according to three people familiar with her thinking, when early voting has begun and her voice will not be lost in a sea of back-to-back convention speeches.

Vice President Harris was definitely serving shade to Dana, personally, moreso than on donald with her succinct response to the identity question.

You all ignored my R90 comment posted during the interview, and I stand by my opinion that Dana's role was "Miss Anne."

I would add Dana Bash/CNN to your list, R288.

Say what you will about Liz, that woman has a great head of hair.

There's a great Pod Save America broadcast with the two hottest (Jon and Dan) and they break down a media strategy for Kamala. I think she should start talking about projects she led as vice president and also those areas where she excelled, including labor relations.

She has to reduce the pitch to women's reproductive rights, and the economy and hit hard on the fact that she will raise taxes on the wealthy and give the Middle Class a tax break. She also needs to go after Congress. All the things we want to do will never happen without the cooperation and support of Congress. We need to work together...to reform the SCOTUS, to codify the law to protect women's reproductive rights, and to raise the minimum wage.

[quote] She has to reduce the pitch to women's reproductive rights

Harris can get more than one message out; and women's reproductive rights (especially abortion rights) have driven Democratic success in numerous elections since Dobbs.

None of these bitch assed reporters can take her. She is ready for them.

Liz’s hair needs its own website.

Kamala gave the exact prescription for strength and restraint, all at the same time. Yes, we can walk and chew gum boys.

I also kept wondering what questions 'Dannah' would ask Trump.

We get a half hour of wtf cares about goddamn fracking. Kamala should have said she wants to explore green energies like solar, instead of delving into our fragile earth and causing earthquakes. And "Tim, how was your son actually conceived? Did you lia about that and the time you got drunk? Was it all on the same night?".

VP Harris did not "evade" that question. She did not dignify it.

Cheney is war criminal Darth Cheney's spawn.

Never forget that.

She is a dangerous, war mongering fascist neocon. Do not ever trust her

Wasn't there a deal in order for her to serve on the Jan 6 committee they would not look into any Repub member of congress (ie: Tours of the capitol, etc.)?

CNN is absolute dogshit now, no different than Fox.

[quote]Has anyone been to a rally? Where do you sign up and find information on the venues? I don’t see anything on her website. It looks like she’ll be coming my way too and I don’t want to find out she’s here in a tweet an hour before the event starts.

The enthusiasm is real!

The little gay pub in DC! Kamala is a superstar ⭐️

She brought her teddy bear for comfort?

And, if she did R309, so what?

But quite honestly, I would say it is one's perspective. You have your view, but my view is that this was a perfect opportunity for both of them, the team, to be introduced to the nation. A lot of people have no idea who Tim Walz is. I know that I didn't. I was pushing for Josh Shapiro. But then the more I saw of Walz, the more I liked him and researched much more about him. This was a perfect choice.

Then you add on top of that is the fact that many Americans do not know who Kamala Harris is. That's not odd. Many people do not know the VP of the POTUS. So here was an opportunity "to kill two birds with one stone", so to speak.

FYI: When it comes to that "first" post-convention interview, Mitt Romney brought Paul Ryan, Barack Obama brought Joe Biden, Bush brought Darth Cheney, Joe brought Kamala ...and Trump brought Mike Pence. Anyone who finds it a point of criticism to point out Kamala brought Walz with her is just literally pulling shit out of their asses throwing it on the wall and hoping it sticks.

basically at this point the GOP will nitpick anything they can as they are so desperate

At this point, Trump is trying to find something, anything, that will stick. Shockingly enough, nothing has. The polls are tight because that's just the way it's going to be from now on. We will never see lopsided presidential elections again, at least not in the lifetime of anyone posting on this thread. Quite frankly, the best intel is the internal polling that the campaigns do, which has not been released or leaked at this point.

Kamala is not Hillary. The mistakes of 2016 are now probably taught in campaign school.

Even if the polls were showing Kamala running away with the race, the media would never admit it. They benefit from hyping a "tight" race. It creates anxiety in their viewers and campaigns spend more money on ads. TV ads. They love covering politics and finding someone like Donald Trump. Politics is the easiest thing for a news operation to cover. Featuring candidates and panels on the debates, the town halls, the "panels," costs next to nothing. and the ad buys are almost pure profit.

From Political Wire:

Politico and the Washington Post are in possession of hacked documents from the Trump campaign on the vetting of Sen. J.D. Vance and yet they have not published any details. These news outlets did not show the same restraint when it came to hacked emails from Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Perhaps there’s nothing newsworthy in the documents? Perhaps they now believe it’s unethical to publish illegally obtained material?

Either way, readers — and voters — deserve an explanation.

And here are several other things voters need to know:

Donald Trump’s campaign has not released a legitimate medical report on the injuries he sustained from the attempted assassination. The Trump campaign has still not released his tax returns. The Trump campaign has not released footage from incident at Arlington cemetery where a Trump aide pushed a cemetery employee.

The cemetery incident story has legs. Legz+ as they say on the tennis thread.

The Democrats are not going to let that one go.

? R306! Wow! I have not heard or read this before. But I don't doubt it.

Because it’s not true.

ruhroh🤣😂

R306 I recall talk of a deal but I am not sure what it involved. I do remember how much Pelosi wanted to focus to be on Trump and his impeachment. The failing I have always pointed out is Merrick Garland and the DoJ not investigating and prosecuting members of Congress and the state officials like my own Lt. Governor Burt Jones here in GA who were actively involved with fake lectors and organizing the insurrectionists going to D.C. This plot had many layers and many phases. It was local and statewide and national. It involved Donnie begging the SoS to "find 11,000 votes, to blocking certifications, to filing false paperwork, to recruiting fake electors, and finally a violent insurrection to stop the certification until they could achieve the outcome they desired. The planning for it began at least as early as June, 2020, and maybe sooner if we count all the strategy sessions and meetings, both at Trump's hotel, and at the White House.

Breitbart is a fascist rag

There was no deal.

MAGA alert @ R319.

I just wanted to pop in to say that the viewing audience for Kamala and Tim was more than double the audience for Trump and his "Town hall" with Kaitlin Collins. In fact she is beating him where it hurts. Trump cannot stand her getting better ratings.

[quote] Perhaps there’s nothing newsworthy in the documents?

There was nothing newsworthy in the Clinton leaks either.

The Republican cabinet member shtick is a nasty leftover from Clintonism. Clinton, was, after all, a bigoted cracker, so his cabinet choices were all stereotypes: Women as secretary of state (negotiating role), blacks at HEW and Justice, Jews at Treasury, Republican at defense (virtually inviting a coup), Hispanic at...I forget, but they were all stereotypes. I was hoping we had left this kind of thinking behind but apparently not.

R326 it was a stupid question. The fact is the pool of potential nominees for these top jobs include both Dems and Republicans and always have. Gates was a Republican working for Obama as were a number of people on his National Security team.

Your Saturday morning java jolt: no more chemicals!

We’re going to make America healthy again,” Trump said

New "Scandal" Alert

R329 - keep it coming, GOP and MAGA. Harris/Walz are only becoming more relatable to those "undecided" and Independent voters.

Why does his brother think he needs security if he hasn't been in contact with Tim for 8 years? Nobody brought any attention to him until he decided to open his mouth and ask for it.

[quote] JUST IN: Tim Walz's brother says he is considering joining forces with Trump, says his brother is "not the type of character you want making decisions about your future."

[quote] Jeff Walz's Facebook profile was discovered by @LauraLoomer who found several stunning posts.

[quote] "The stories I could tell. Not the type of character you want making decisions about your future," he said in a comment.

[quote] "Haven't spoke to him in 8 years. I'm 100% opposed to all his ideology."

[quote] "My family wasn't given any notice that he was selected and denied security the days after."

[quote] All the comments stemmed from a March 30, 2023 post after Trump was convicted where Jeff Walz said: "We've just become a third world banana republic."

[quote] The stories I could tell.

Then tell, bitch. Typical MAGA fake nonsense to get attention. We all have our cuckoo MAGA relatives. This just makes Tim Walz more likeable.

[quote]It actually makes Tim more relatable because a lot of people have dealt with this same conflict in their own families since 2016.

I can relate.

I'm pretty sure I read that Tim's sister was with him when he got the call

His brother is no worse than RFK jr siblings.

Somehow I think Tim is not too worried. Family is as as family does. Clearly he’s rolled with it for a long time.

... "Maher went on to express how puzzled he is about Harris’ messaging, particularly when she repeatedly talks about finding a “new way forward.”

“It’s an odd thing to say when you’re in the present administration, is it not?” Maher reacted.

He also repeatedly mocked the interview set-up with Harris and her “emotional support VP.”"

Did he say that about the dozen prior nominees, in both parties, who did joint interviews after a convention?

How much are they paying Tim Walz's brother?

I'm Dutch, have never lived in the United States, and even *I* have a MAGA relative. They're a dime a dozen! Mine is a cousin who was undocumented for 25 years, an ex-Mormon who now lives in California and believes the Democrats are coming for her vegetable garden.

[quote] Mine is a cousin who was undocumented for 25 years, an ex-Mormon who now lives in California and believes the Democrats are coming for her vegetable garden.

Tell her I'll leave the celery

R339 Maher and his butt-hurt narcissism is boring, boring, boring. He wanted Biden to step away, but he salivates over Newsom's groin... he's pissed that "his guy" was edged out by a woman.

As he gets older his annoying characteristics are getting more annoying. But in general he is still strongly anti-MAGA, so the Joe Rogan-adjacent part of his following won't get a permission structure from him to vote for Trump.

Maher wasn't too sharp in his interview with Nancy Pelosi on last night's show.

I wish Kamala had the articulate intellect of Obama. But she has his friendship- as well as Joe's- so I think she'll do fine.

r319/r339 - Your only two posts? You aren't fooling anybody, LoL.

I seriuosly doubt Maher cares a fig abou Gavin Newsom. He's all about the east coast.

[quote] JUST IN: Tim Walz's brother says he is considering joining forces with Trump, says his brother is "not the type of character you want making decisions about your future."

Sounds very similar to the situation with Chasten Buttigieg and his right-wing loser brother Rhyan Glezman. No one cared about Chasten's brother, and no one will care about Tim Walz's brother.

Sure, just like. Because we spend our idle hours researching Chasten’s family tree!🥱

Only two posts, r337? LoL, you aren't fooling anyone.

Typical MAGA. Latch on to Tim’s loser brother’s comments as gospel, but when Trump relatives reveal all the horrible stuff they know about him, they are liars.

Twitter is no longer a reliable source. Why do you continue to post links to the platform?

You mean like this?

R347: Maher lives (and broadcasts from) Los Angeles. He's been a California resident for a long time.

I dislike Bill Maher and can't abide watching his program.

He should know better than to try to tussle with Sister Nance.

[quote] The cemetery incident story has legs.

Only with some Democrats. The rest of the country doesn’t care.

"Mirror, Mirror on the wall, who's the butchest butch of all?"

^oops. Wrong thread.

R356 isn’t a vet, clearly.

Maga does not care about propriety, rule of law, respect for others or American democracy.

What is it your kind care about?

Tim said he had MAGA relatives on Ezra Klein’s podcast and I’m sure on many other podcasts. It’s not any secret and it definitely made him more relatable.

As much I like Walz, the "Americas Coach" stuff is being laid on a little too thick. His "Football analogy" speech at the convention just seemed like pandering to rednecks who feel safter voting democrat because there's a "White" on the ticket. It came off as trying too hard.

To be fair, it's politics, most of them don't get to this point by being innocent waifs. But I tend to be very wary of when the media trots out these comfy nicknames for them. I refused to "Uncle" Biden either.

In terms of democrats, it always seems that the ones most vilified by their party are often the ones with the best moral character. George McGovern and Jimmy Carter come to mind. Howard Dean as well.

r356 is also:

*Transgender Question*

[quote][quote]There is sex and there is gender.

[quote]That crap was made up by a psychologist who was a pedophile.

Respectfully, I think you've missed the point of modern day politics R362. Those of us who pay attention have to pander to a few thousand clueless people in swing states, so if the Coach label brings some of them to the light, I'm all for that.

R362 Tim Walz had to lay it on thick. The are still people he needs to get to. Sure, you seen one of his speeches you seem em all. That's how it works. Just like pop bands, they play the hits. Why wouldn't he? I'm sure there will be changes as the election get closer.

[quote]Respectfully, I think you've missed the point of modern day politics

I get the point of making an obvious ploy to 'Merican Midwest men who are uncomfortable having to vote for a black woman and who think of nothing but liquor, guns and sports.

Modern Day politics is about appealing to people's most basic, reductive instincts. There's no great mystery there. Look at politicians treat the black community by hauling out rappers every election cycle.

It wouldn't hurt to be a little more intellectual and culturally uplifting. We're not MAGA.

At some point in our political lives, being the smartest and most reasonable candidate in the room has been replaced by being someone with whom everyone wants to have a beer.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I have no desire to do body shots off of strippers with my doctor, my lawyer, my accountant, my elected representatives, or the President.

As a country, we've really said fuck you too smart.

Exactly R367 It used to be Republicans that trotted that "guy you'd have a beer with" shit. Now democrats are falling into it as well.

I don't want my politicians "relatable". I want them to do their jobs. I don't need warm and fuzzy feelings for them.

Democrats need to win, so I'm good with whatever it takes. If that means laughing and having a beer, then so be it. This is politics, not the Algonquin Round Table.

[quote]It used to be Republicans that trotted that "guy you'd have a beer with" shit.

Trump eats fast food because he actually likes it and you'll never see him wearing anything other than a blue suit and red tie unless he's on a golf course. And he brags that he's rich.

The Dems really don't need the "relatable" bullshit as much as they might think. It can come off as phony.

"PJ Media Body Language Experts Analyzed Kamala’s CNN Interview. Here’s What They Found. Matt Margolis | 4:37 PM on August 31, 2024

AP Photo/Paul Sancya It doesn't take an expert to know that Kamala Harris was out of her element during the softball interview with CNN. She's been avoiding interviews and press conferences for weeks, and despite finally agreeing to an interview with a friendly network conducted by a friendly host, she still needed her male running mate to accompany her.

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But it should come as no surprise that a body language expert who analyzed Kamala's performance during the interview told Fox News Digital that Harris lacked both confidence and a presidential demeanor.

According to Susan Constantine, Harris frequently looked down during the CNN interview, which suggested that she was “not confident in what she’s saying.” Constantine explained that Harris did not project the “presidential appearance” required to command her position, adding, “She definitely needs to make some tweaks into her body language to appear more confident.”

Related: Here's How We Really Know Kamala's CNN Interview Wasn’t Good for Her

"The fact that she's looking down a lot removes a lot of the fluidity and the authenticity," she added.

Throughout the interview, Constantine noticed that Harris struggled to deliver clear answers, particularly when asked about her “day one” agenda. This led to what Constantine described as “head bobbling,” a sign that Harris was searching for the right answers but couldn’t confidently deliver them.

“When you bobble and waffle like that, that’s another signal that she’s not really… prepared.” Constantine also highlighted Harris’s tendency to break eye contact, which she described as “a form of deflection,” further indicating a lack of confidence.

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"So when you're removing an eye gaze, not making good eye contact, it's just showing me that she's not confident in what she's saying."

And Harris was totally using Walz as her emotional support animal. Constantine observed that Harris was “consistently looking for acknowledgment” from Walz, which she suggested undermined Harris’ authority.

"She is looking for that signal from Walz to see if he's on board. Many times when we see him, he's got the pressed lips — that tends to be a more serious, more collected expression in his mouth," Constantine explained.

"Overall, you know, as one woman to another, I would say if you're going to be a woman in power, you have to look like a woman in power," Constantine concluded. "And she doesn't at this time."

Related: It Looks Like Kamala Is About To Chicken Out of Debating Trump

In an interview with Just the News, Greg Hartley, a former U.S. Army interrogator, reached similar conclusions.

Hartley noted how Kamala broke eye contact often and explained that looking “down and right” is an “emotional access cue,” while “down and to left” indicates internal reflection, suggesting Harris was thinking about what not to say. He added that she was “prepped a lot to not engage” and to focus on “not being Trump” because she had “no content.” He bluntly stated, “She’s hollow.”

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Hartley also critiqued Harris and Tim Walz's tendency to “chaff and redirect”—talking at length about unrelated topics to avoid tough questions. He mentioned Walz was “uncomfortable” about how his military record was being scrutinized and noted Walz’s “deceptive” behavior regarding his rank when leaving the National Guard.

Hartley also described Harris as “predictable when she’s uncomfortable,” pointing out her tendency to smile, laugh, nod, and speak in a “word salad.” He added, “She has no content at all,” and noted that Harris isn’t effective at “chaff and redirect,” often resorting to cackling when under pressure."

My God, is PJ Media still around? I thought they came and went around 2004.

R370 We do actually need it, and it's actually working, so why complain about it?

The resounding takeaway that independent and undecided voters had from the DNC was how much they liked Kamala and Tim and found them relatable, and it was enough to make them lean towards voting form them. What they're doing is working. If it annoys you, don't watch their stump speeches. If you're already a decided voter, they're not really for you anyway.

It may not be a literary round table, but it’s not an NFL game either, R369 Save a lot of that rhetoric for sports where it belongs. Politics was founded on the principles of discussion and debate.

The mere suggestion that politicians appeal to broader bases should not solicit such hostility.

I cannot begin to tell you how offensive this analysis is. It is a total crock of bullshit. I actually thought it was a joke when I first read it. They will not miss an opportunity to go after Kamala. They will never call it sexism. But please, will someone show me where this much attention was applied to analyzing Donald Trump and J. D. Vance, or anyone else for that matter? How dare they.

She was not all bad, but you feel she is struggling and you become nervous watching it.

And I am not even her fan, but subconsciously I get anxious.

R371 is a right wing troll posting crap content from a wing nut website. From Wikipedia: PJ Media, originally known as Pajamas Media, is an American right-wing subscription-based commentary website. It was founded in 2004, with its majority owner being software entrepreneur, billionaire and angel investor Aubrey Chernick, founder of Candle Corporation.

hereyago r378... enjoy!😅🤣

Bill Maher seems to dislike Kamala. I don’t know why. He never says anything positive about her. Probably because she is a woman.

That “body language” expert was paid by Fox News. Worthless observations.

The Daily Mail body language expert is much better, exceeded only by their lip-reading expert.

Where are the body language experts to evaluate Don-OLD? Like him hobbling down a ramp being guided by a general.

Yep, and that recent clip of Trump slowly walking upstairs with undone tie, nervously holding the rail like someone with eyesight and balance issues. And now imagine the response were Kamala to be filmed in a quarter as bad a light.

So, the Jewish Second Gentleman is doing a bus tour though South Florida and Coach is taking on PA

Tim and Gwen serving ice cream at the Minnesota State Fair

[quote]Bill Maher seems to dislike Kamala. I don’t know why. He never says anything positive about her. Probably because she is a woman.

Bill Maher is a contrarian TV show host whose main schtick is saying and doing things to elicit reactions and get people talking. Whether he likes the Vice President or not doesn't matter. His deal is to push back on Democrats, but that doesn't mean he votes for Republicans. Bill Maher's show is watched by urban liberals. He's not changing any minds; he's just playing devil's advocate.

R385 So much of our politics is subliminal messages... communicated in signs and symbols not recognized. Deep psychological realities conveyed in visual and narrative presentations. Walz's baggy T-shirt and posing comically, Gwen Walz leaning across the counter conversationally... your neighbors (even if you never had a neighbor remotely like them). This campaign is so smart, so far.

Yet he’s still annoying! Good post^^

For r386^

r387 I would say emotional rather than subliminal —but you are correct.

[quote] Tim and Gwen serving ice cream at the Minnesota State Fair

Look at those crowds of happy, delighted people chanting "Coach! Coach!" What a stark contrast from the creepy dude in the donut shop.

And why do we never see Usha? She accompanied him exactly once, as far as I know (the photo op with the dog). Obviously Melania isn't paid enough any more to keep up appearances, but shouldn't Usha be more visibly supportive, especially when he needs damage control after all the misogynistic interviews that keep leaking? Is she embarrassed, or does she hate him as much as the rest of us?

Usha is at home with the kids. Where she belongs.

[quote] Usha is at home with the kids. Where she belongs.

...hoping MAGA forgets that she's not white...

[QUOTE]And why do we never see Usha? She accompanied him exactly once, as far as I know (the photo op with the dog).

She accompanied him on an earlier, equally awkward visit to a diner with their kids, two of them. at least. The "advance team" had glasses of chocolate milk set out for the kids which displeased Vance greatly. He took it away before they could finish.

His staff hates him, truly & deeply.

The kids can't have a glass of chocolate milk, but he's all over those big cinnamon rolls.

As creepy as he is in public, he's probably even scarier behind closed doors.

[quote]Bill Maher seems to dislike Kamala. I don’t know why. He never says anything positive about her.

He exclusively (from what I've seen) dates black women, so maybe his last girlfriend broke his heart and he's taking it out the Vice President?

Kristin Welker is a piece of 💩 R397.

I think even Chuck Todd is leagues better than her, and that's saying something!

She's always been articulate and informed but I've never before heard her speak without dropping f-bombs every other phrase.

And I'm surprised that she was able to hold it together to respond calmly to that "foundational" bullshit

That was a white guy in the clip at R400, right?

R399 well , she may have just barely graduated with high honors from Harvard—there you go.

R294 And that’s exactly why I canceled my NYT subscription. Because a multimillionaire bitch gotta eat right. It’s ok to even present the appearance of treason just as long as you are rich and white right. Obviously there are a lot of republicans in this who are just going to vote for him irregardless but mainstream agencies need to stop trying to normalize this shit. This is some abnormal shit, highly irregular. I’m not even made at the repubs who are going to vote for him. It’s human nature. But I am mad that a mafuckin mainstream publication won’t call out him blow by now. They should be bipartisan yes but they also should be actively trying to convince regular Americans why he is dangerous. They dropped the ball 8 years ago. Fuck em.

Evading something is the fact that not one journalist has asked Trump why he still has not conceded the 2020 election. Let that sink in. Not Anderson, not Gayle, not any of the cunts who are live and on scene at one of his numerous press releases. There will be blood if she loses.

Teafcake, take a chill pill.

And learn to write.

I have one thing to say and it applies to every fucking reporter and pundit covering this campaign. When they start talking about Trump's lies and cognitive decline and flip flops and incompetence, and going after him the way they bullied Biden and now attempting to smear Harris, then I will listen. Otherwise they have NO CREDIBILITY.

The youngest member of Congress (who is also of Lebanese and Argentine descent with a Haitian father) is also on the ground in Pennsylvania for Harris/Walz.

R405 Learn how to enhance that cowbell bitch. I need your melody on point. I believe in you.

Btw I never even been to Pittsburgh. No Black and yellow.

R408, dude, you’re stealing my ride

HolierThanThou isn't Teacake (whose latest incarnation, AFAIK, is Blackmussy). HTT may have used mafuckin, but he sounds very distinct from BM. HTT is level-headed. BM can be, as well, except he's kinda "loose cannon" more than occasionally than one might expect from a retired Navy officer.

I love Max Frost! He calls out the bullshit in plain language and doesn’t GAF about the pearl clutching.

So glad the campaign is sending him out in PA to talk to younger voters.

Tim Walz holding that porkchop on a stick gives me major heartburn just looking at it.

Walz in MN: 11:15am CT

Harris in MI: 1:15pm ET

Walz in WI: 2pm CT

Emhoff in VA: 4:30pm ET

Harrs/Biden in PA: 4:45pm ET

Does the campaign plan stops in places other than the battleground states? How about states that are within reach of turning blue ( Ohio, Fla)?

You know, I have no idea what the strategy is for Ohio. I think it's in play, but then I see that Sherrod Brown doesn't want too much Democratic presence, he didn't attend the convention and has not asked for Biden or Harris or Walz to visit. I wouldn't write off Ohio. I'd send Walz in there for sure. And maybe even Biden.

USATODAY columnist:

[quote] 1/ Here’s what’s going to happen: In October, Trump will drop some fabricated nonsense about Harris. Elon Musk and the rest of the right-wing media ecosystem will amplify it, the mainstream press will cover the fight and, absurd as it is, it will present a pre-election problem.

[quote] 2/ Given Trump’s reach and the full power of the Trump-obsessed online army, this will be a bigger deal than Comey’s Hillary Clinton letter. And it will be total bullsh*t. But as we’ve seen, facts mean nothing to many. If you think Trump’s team isn’t already planning this…

[quote] 3/ …then you haven’t been paying attention. This election is existential for Trump and those in his orbit. He loses, they all lose - mainly money. So of course they’re going to pull something wildly dishonest. Of course.

[quote] Democrats need to know that’s coming.

[quote] 4/ They need to be prepared not just to play defense and debunk whatever it is, but they need to be ready to win by a margin that can overcome that kind of an obstacle.

[quote] Point of all this: The polls look encouraging. But they aren’t even remotely good enough to win.

[quote] 5/ Harris has to not just overcome the electoral college disadvantage. She has to overcome whatever the hell the most dishonest politician the country has ever known is cooking up.

[quote] So cork your optimism. This is gonna be a righteous slog. Get in the mud. Fight. Full steam. END

^^ That seems pretty realistic to me.

i agree alas

An experiment over the weekend by Rebekah Jones is very much related to ^.

Trump has no rallies scheduled until one at the airport in Mosinee, WI this Saturday. Must be part of his "we don't need the votes" strategy.

Mosinee, WI. Population 4,491. Is it another sundown town? What is the strategy here?

Trump doesn't need to campaign like candidates traditionally campaign. He didn't do it in 2016, and he didn't do it in 2020, and he isn't doing it now. He goes through the motions with his rallies, and his "interviews" and he pulls some stunt or says outrageous things so he can grab a headline. He has the entire mainstream press, including the NYT working for him. He doesn't need campaign offices or GOTV. That's his thinking. And of curse they will pull an October surprise. About two or three weeks out from election day they will do something to mobilize their base. My guess is Palestinians or immigrants. In fact if they could manufacture or exploit something to do with immigration they will. I think that's where they'll go. We need to go on the offensive. It isn't enough to say he killed the immigration bill. Corruption is a good issue. And there are SO MANY incidents of t hose PPE loans going to members of Congress, or sleazy deals with Trump and his family, and loans being "forgiven. I think it resonates. We working people struggle while they steal.

To my knowledge no journalist has looked into the strategically timed, staged "caravans" that come to the border, or how they are financed. The evangelicals, and the "Eastern European " mobsters are orchestrating it and IMO there's a direct line from them to the Republicans.

I’m sure the Trump Machine will manufacture some stunt but it’s not going to move the needle for him. He’s like rotten meat at the supermarket way past its expiration date. No one is buying it.

[quote] Trump doesn't need to campaign like candidates traditionally campaign. He didn't do it in 2016, and he didn't do it in 2020, and he isn't doing it now

Actually, though, his rallies in 2016, and even during covid in 2020, were bigger and more frequent than they've been in the last month or so. I thought maybe he'd rev it up after Labor Day. Holding his first post-Labor Day rally in rural central WI is something I want to see explained (he has surrogates in AZ and other states—but not Vance).

Mosinee makes no sense. WTF?

it's obvious why there are few Trump appearances......... This should be his new campaign song.

Maybe it's because in big cities it would be very obvious how small Trump's rallies have gotten.

Mosinee, WI is (or was) home to a large paper plant. My dad worked for a subsidiarity of it.

Not sure why he'd show up there, unless that's the only place he hasn't stiffed yet or who hasn't HEARD that he stiffs everyone.

More "Comrade Kamala" bullshit?

Mock Communist invasion

[quote] On May 1, 1950, local residents acting as Communist invaders seized control of Mosinee.[10][11]

[quote] The action was a part of an elaborate pageant organized by the Wisconsin Department of the American Legion. The "Communists" dragged Mayor Ralph E. Kronenwetter and Police Chief Carl Gewiss out of their beds. Mayor Kronenwetter surrendered at 10:15 AM in the town's new "Red Square" with a pistol to his back. The police chief was reported to have resisted and was "liquidated".

[quote] Roadblocks were set up around Mosinee, the library was "purged", prices of goods were inflated for the duration of the coup, and local restaurants served Russian black bread and potato soup for lunch.[12]

[quote] That was a white guy in the clip at [R400], right?

Not necessarily, R401.

Performative ramblefuckery

I don't think so. This sounds like what's been happening under MAGA direction and oversight to placate their idiot masses and deliver money to their corporate billionaire overlords. *They* are the commies.

[QUOTE]Roadblocks were set up around Mosinee, the library was "purged", prices of goods were inflated

[quote] More "Comrade Kamala" bullshit?

wait, don't the fucking GOP love red things?

God Musk is such a cringey douchebag. Can't wait till Trump's touch kills him off

YOU know we really do need to keep up the public complaints about how the media is covering this campaign.

Can you believe Elon wants to be the Red Planet dictator on day one after his conquest of Mars?

[quote] Bill Maher seems to dislike Kamala. I don’t know why. He never says anything positive about her. Probably because she is a woman.

Most people can’t stand her and that includes working class Democrats.

[quote] Can you believe Elon wants to be the Red Planet dictator on day one after his conquest of Mars?

Go for it, Elon. Please fuck off to Mars right now. Take all your fascist friends with you.

^^ I will help that rancid prick pack!

Republican 443 lashes out without facts.

Recent polling has shown Harris reclaiming the Democrats' lead with union voters. A survey from Emerson College released on August 16 found that the vice president was ahead of Trump by 14.8 percentage points among union voters in Pennsylvania (56.8 percent to 42 percent). Back in July, a similar poll found the former president leading union voters by 5 percentage points while Biden was still in the race.

Harris also received promising numbers out of Michigan in an Emerson College poll released late last week—while 30.1 percent of union households said they would vote for Harris if the election were held today, Trump trailed by double digits, earning 20 percent of the vote. The survey was based on the responses of 800 likely voters with a margin of error of 3.4 percent.

He has a unique (for politics) way of being authentically passionate

^ Somehow I can't imagine Usha or the Slovenian Whore serving cookies at the state fair. ❤️ you Tim, Gwen, Hope, and Gus!

I love how Gwen is really into it. She's yelled orders for cookies and she's really into it. Authentic, not just for show. You can tell she's done it before and I love them both. Very natural.

I think Gwen probably had some kind of food service job as a teen or college student. Certain habits or traits from past jobs never go away.

I would love for Kamala to visit a McDonalds and help prep a couple of meals.

r443 posts mostly rancid fecal matter for whatever reason.

She sure chose well, with Walz. I was worried we'd need Shapiro but with Gaza exploding... well, Walz is good.

Is Biden ordering the capture of the Venezuelan plane gonna be an issue? Worries me that it's so close to the election. But then, everything worries me...

[quote] I was worried we'd need Shapiro

He's right there with her

Good ad

Trump and Vance aren't campaigning because there all fighting about the lousy campaign, and blaming one another instead of the rotten bastard they work for. Now, they're all probably sitting in some rathole scheming about how to "win" the election. Without campaigning, and without worrying about the vote.

Remember that whole right wing thing about Biden hiding in the basement and not campaigning in 2020 (during the height of the pandemic)?

Well, why is Trump hiding in the basement and not campaigning in 2024? He doesn't have the excuse of a pandemic.

He's not hiding in the basement, he's hiding on his various golf courses!

R457 I'm sure I'm making a mountain of a mole hill but I was a bit taken aback with Josh mildly slapped Kamala on the upper arm (this is after they've already hugged). I can't see clearly, but I think a few seconds later, she did the same to her - and then he slapped her on the upper arm again. Isn't that a sort of dominant move - I can't imagine one of the women in the line, later on, or even the men, like the one in uniform, doing that.

Oh well, no biggie, but I wonder if ingrained gendered behaviors show up often?

*a few seconds later, she did the same to HIM...

R461 I got the same impression. Shapiro has know Harris for like 20 years and I think this was a gesture of dominance. His familiarity was out of place. He wanted to show the familiarity and the dominance. Short man syndrome.

Just an affectionate shoulder (or shoulder-adjacent) pat between old friends

R449 why are you cumdumps using whore in a negative context?

At R454 it's so affirming to see Kamala's animation, her full beaming engagement, the force of her charisma. (I know: Mary!)

You-Know-Who and his flesh-crawling VP couldn't begin to replicate that charm if they had years of tuition, and probably wouldn't want to anyway.

They and their media supporters can only recognise Kamala has natural talents inaccessible to them, and attempt to degrade her accordingly.

Apart from all else, this election is a choice between a recognisable human being who instantly creates benign attention and trust; and a lazy mentally ill criminal who barely pretends to like people at all, let alone care for them. The fact that this election is remotely 'close' is one of the mysteries of the cosmos.

^ The Russian/Belorussian/Hungarian troll strikes again using its favorite, newly found vocabulary word "cumdump" it apparently recently learned either through true experience (anal or oral experience) or the boilerplate training it received at its factory.

Datalounge, once again, beseeches you to also come up with similar fantasies from your own erotica that involves cunniligus fantasies. Be fair to the lesbians at Datalounge, OK?

You might want to pass this inside info to your superiors as you shuffle out from your shift into a bleak night of rotgut.

^ meant for r465, if I wasn't obvious enough.

brilliantly said!

R5, Yes, because it's the equivalent of Trump's "Project 2025."

Thank goodness you recognize what is important!

This is not a promise, this is not a vow, this is not a commitment.

What this is, is a politely evasive and generic response that can later be "revised" to "My advisors have recommended to me so many experienced, talented, and brilliant Democrats that that is the direction we are taking to get the Harris/Walz Administration off to its best possible start with respect to the strong mandate from our voters."

“Your niece was right, you’re a fucking idiot!”

R469 Sloppy thinking to explain a partisan choice. "Oh, she's so courageous!" I call bullshit. No one is "intimidating" her to vote for Harris because she's (the speaker) is black. This is just aligned to the MAGA/Trump strategy to bring identity into the election by complaining about bringing identity into the race. "She turned black to be black!!"

In convention speech, not ONE word about her identity. In the CNN interview, "what about Trump calling you an Indian who turned into a Black".... "same old tired playbook, next question."

Same old tired playbook is being held tightly in their hands... but not ours.

R469, go rot in a Ukrainian wheat field.

[quote] The youngest son of the late Sen. John McCain had already been moving away from the Republican Party — just weeks ago, he changed his voter registration to Democrat and plans to vote for Kamala Harris in Novembe

Cindy endorsed Joe in '16 and AZ repugs tried to throw her out of the party. I imagine she'll also endorse Kamala.

Cindy comes from money. LOTS of money. She has no more fucks to give as far as Arizona Republicans are concerned, and especially Trump.

r461, I'll take the other tack- it's a dude behavior to slap another dude's shoulder after a bro hug. So maybe he's seeing her as "one of the dudes"

Judge Says Donald Trump Campaign Has To Stop Using “Hold On, I’m Coming” Amid Isaac Hayes Estate Lawsuit:

Voters Blame Corporate Price Gouging More Than the Biden-Harris Administration for Rising Prices

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[quote] “Our polling was showing that if I stayed in the race, Vice President Harris would win, and I did not want that outcome. I don’t think that Vice President Harris is a worthy president of this country.

[quote] “I think we need to have a president who can give an interview, who can articulate a vision, who can put together an English sentence, who can articulate and defend her policies and her record, and who can engage in a debate.

[quote] “Vice President Harris’s speech at the convention made it very clear that she would continue the warfare state.” – Robert F. Kennedy Jr., last night on NewsNation.

Related ^^^

You can't argue against his policy but refuse to condemn his candidacy

Adam gets it.

They are back to pushing the isolationist/anti-war attack because nothing else is sticking.

RFK Jr must be checking in from Bizarro World.

Isolationism doesn't even make sense as a selling point in this campaign. We have no boots on the ground. Our defense industry is getting BIG CHECKS for the weapons systems that we send to Ukraine and Israel. And our interests are being protected. Both Israel and Ukraine are strategically important to our interests. Our biggest fuck up was brought to you by Trump and Pompeo. Trump pulling us out of Afghanistan benefited Russia. Period.

And cider doughnuts…

Shame on RFK, with that racist dog-whistle language ("She can't put together an English sentence"). His fall is complete - his father is spinning in his grave.

A scion of one of the most famous politically liberal families in history joining the reactionary hard right. Strange times.

"There is going to be no further statements to anybody."

"It does not have to be this way"

Shit hitting fan….

His hick cousins in Nebraska proudly wear "Walz's For Trump" shirts. Oh, DEAR!

^^ Apparently they didn't check in with their relative who is an English teacher. "Walz's" is the possessive of a single person. More than one Walz is Walzes.

Literacy, it's your friend.

Gwen was the English teacher. Tim was a geography and social studies teacher.

CNN reporting that Liz Cheney has announced that she’s voting for Kamala Harris.

Darth Cheney’s spawn is a snake!

DO NOT EVER TRUST THIS BITCH.

[quote]His hick cousins in Nebraska proudly wear "Walz's For Trump" shirts. Oh, DEAR!

Kindly inform them that their invitation to the residence of the Vice President of the United States is permanently revoked.

R494 I knew that.... "in laws" are still relatives.

Goldman Sachs says that a Democratic sweep of November's election would give US GDP a boost while GDP would fall under a Trump administration.

Yet Americans continue to give Trump and the Republicans an edge when it comes to handling the economy, despite this and all other evidence to the contrary.

Mah President Trump is a great businessman. He was on that TV show all them years firin' people.

Tim's brother made a swift retreat. He can see which way the wind blows.

[quote]Tim's brother made a swift retreat. He can see which way the wind blows.

Of course he does. The unwashed right-wing are ready to make him its mascot and use him until they use him up. But he knows that he is crazy (as all Trumpers usually are) and it would only be a matter of time before someone discovers his secrets and reveal all to the world. He knows the right-wing would drop him like a bad cold.

1) CNN reporting now that Liz Cheney is going to hit the trail for Harris/Walz in battleground states (I say she's from Wyoming so send her to Nevada & Arizona)

2) Whatever this is:

[quote] Walz’s sister, Sandy Dietrich, of Alliance, Nebraska, said she suspected it might be people from that branch of the family. Dietrich and Walz’s father, James Walz, died of lung cancer in 1984 when the future congressman and Minnesota governor was just a teenager. His father had been the school superintendent in Valentine, Nebraska.

[quote] “We weren’t close with them. We didn’t know them,” she said.

[quote] Dietrich declined to comment on their distant cousins’ opposition to her brother and referred to herself and her family as “Democrats for Tim.”

[quote] “I know who I’m voting for. That’s all I can control,” she said.

Nate Cohn

Nationwide, Kamala Harris leads Donald Trump by three percentage points, 49 percent to 46 percent. Across the battleground states, the race is a dead heat. In every state and nationwide, the polling average is within 1.5 points of the result of the 2020 presidential election.”

“In short, the polls finally show the close election that analysts expected a year ago, before President Biden’s candidacy went off the rails.”

R506 you must that Maga Walz's have more class and are acting playfully unlike Kennedies who are denouncing their brother/cousin in a Sovietic manner

[QUOTE]unlike Kennedies who are denouncing their brother/cousin in a Sovietic manner

Could you please expound on this? Particularly the Sovietic part. Modern Americans born after 1990 don't understand your meaning of "Sovietic." The last time it *may have* been used in print was during a Reagan campaign.

[QUOTE]Kennedies --> Poor ESL education.

[QUOTE]Walz's

Whose? Do you mean possessive or quantity? Either way, the distant cousins don't understand apostrophes either. Indoctrination is terrible nowadays with Prigozhin's high standards dead with him.

It's a shame because Russia and the US should be peaceful allies, but that's impossible as long as the Putin-Medvedev complex runs Russia. Partly their fault, and partly the fault of idiot shoch economist Jeffrey Sachs. Oh he's a model liberal now,k but his baneful libertarianism had a profound negative effect on Russia.

r508 can you blame the Kennedys? Their brother/uncle/cousin is a nitwit who's really tarnished their progressive family legacy. And besides, he's not in the race anymore so it doesn't matter what they say.

Russia is a stinking shithole full of drunkards. They've been fucking up the planet with their nonsense for over a century now. Please spare us the 'poor Russia' posts. You sound like Trump and his whining.

LoL, r508, you aren't fooling anybody.

R508 Fragmented reality - eventually the internet will only be fractured bots talking to each other.

Damn, r515, I can’t believe they let that guy say that without cutting him off.

We've been discussing the Barnicle clip here:

Really outstanding speech @ R515 - like the best of about five DL threads packed into a few minutes. Journalistic skills of encapsulation used to powerful accurate effect.

We hear the notes of despair and disbelief that this could actually still be happening. He speaks the words of the sane across the globe. I so hope his passion, vigour and intelligence win a huge audience, and encourage scores more to stand up and speak up too. It's so obviously a crucial moment.

I gotta post this comment from the WaPo.

I couldn't have written this better myself!

[quote]Further evidence that, if Trump he is re-elected, we will have an irrational, self-centered, vindictive, immoral, autocratic, unethical, egotistical, narcissistic, twice impeached, pathological liar, convicted felon / adjudicated sexual assault abuser as President who will turn 80 years old while in office (and now showing signs of dementia) and who will be an existential danger to our democracy. Don't forget Trump sat on his fat butt in the White House for 3 1/2 hours and did nothing while our Capital was being ransacked and he is not even being endorsed by his own Vice President Mike Pence.

[quote]Trump wants to indoctrinate the MAGA crowd with debunked, unfounded, baseless claims, falsehoods, distortions, half-truths and obfuscations. Supporting them are a dysfunctional Republican Party controlled by a cesspool of unethical Trump loving "RINO" hunting Freedom Caucus crackpots, liars, clowns, wingnuts, charlatans, grifters, nihilists, and con artists and right-wing propaganda outlets like FOX News and Newsmax subjecting their audience to non-stop brainwashing from dishonest, deceiving propagandists like Hannity, Bartiromo, Watters, Levin, Pirro, Ingraham and other "hosts".

R520 It's a gordian knot of suicidal irrationality... more tightly tied with every shared false talking point pulling the digital noose (there's a theme here, eh?) around all our necks. It's so critical that another door closes to the cray cray this November.

Meta-kooks - if anyone accuses you of Trump derangement syndrome it's clear evidence that the speaker is deranged. So it's a trap, the more one resists the cancerous MAGA ideology and hate, the more powerful it gets ... I think the Harris campaign's tactic of "old tired playbook, next question" is the way to cut off MAGA fuel... and we can only hope it works in November.

A Gordian Knot you say?

I take that knot and raise it to a Golden Fleece!

Alexander the Great solved the mystery of the Gordian Knot, he was showing off for his love, Hephaestion.

Yeah, "solved"!

Uh, oh. This is huge. Cubans are always a reliable voting bloc for the GOP.

Some younger Cuban Americans are probably less conservative than her parents and grandparents and are probably fed up with Trump.

R526 demographics and trends change over time, right? Mexican-Americans have been voting Dem pretty consistently - though now younger (third and fourth generation immigrants) are more likely to be open to voting Republican, even for Trump.

Yes that's pretty shocking r525. Cuban-Americans have traditionally always been staunch supporters of the GOP. The younger generation is definitely more mainstream and integrated though.

The people most likely to support Republicans would be the "Castro Cubans" Whose parents or Grandparents or they themselves came here as ASYLUM SEEKERS running from Castro. A lot of them are dead now. Younger Cuban Americans would be receptive to Kamala. But then there's also the cultural thing, the "machismo" that wouldn't want to vote for a woman. So to say they're tied is really huge.

They were most certainly NOT asylum seekers. One dry foot and they got parole—free admission.

[QUOTE]They were most certainly NOT asylum seekers.

Who are the "they" you refer to? For clarity's sake. TIA.

Castro Cubans—are you dense?

The hype seems to be over

R533, Nate Silver works for Peter Thiel, so I don’t believe anything he prints. Kamala is doing very well in the swing states she needs.

i hope so

Go back to defending Russell Brand, r533.

R535 not just Nate. It was obvious that with the begginig of September things got colder.

You mean the holiday week where nothing happened?

r533/r538 - LoL, do try harder.

[quote]R506 you must that Maga Walz's have more class and are acting playfully unlike Kennedies who are denouncing their brother/cousin in a Sovietic manner

Have I said something wrong R540?

Walz were playing with their family name, creating this funny slogan Walz for Trump, while Kennedy family denounced their brother/cousin as the enemy of the state, a phenomena that was happening in Stalin Russia, where people were forced to publicly attack members of their family. I think that people can have disagreements on politics, but attacking publicly, (through statements in media), your brother who committed no crime for his political stance and consuming his democratic right is insane and cultish.

Bless your heart, r541. Even with your severe retardation you still try.

Kennedies!!! Walz's!!! Playful!!!

I think this trollish poster (whom I have blocked, but can see from others' posting of his numbers) is not a native English speaker. "A phenomena ... in Stalin Russia ... consuming his democratic right ...."

But, r544...he tries.

All the hallmarks of The Russian Speaker are there. All that's missing is the Lysenko reference. Is it really that hard to find fully bilingual Russian/English speakers who are willing to troll-farm for a few years when they finish college? I guess I answered my own question.

[quote] Kamala is doing very well in the swing states she needs.

She's doing fairly well in Michigan and Wisconsin, where she has 3 to 4 point leads (though those leads are still within the margin of error). But those two states alone aren't enough. She also needs to win Pennsylvania, which right now is a dead heat. The other swing states (Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina, Nevada) are also dead heats. There's definitely been some slippage for Harris in the past week. If the election were held today, it could go either way.

If Kamala gets Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan and Illinois, but not PA she can still win. She'd need Arizona, Nevada and Colorado. She could conceivably win without Georgia too. Google yourself an interactive electoral college map and dope out various scenarios.

Is anyone on the PAISANS FOR KAMALA ZOOM CALL to hear Patti LuPone tonight?

[quote] If Kamala gets Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan and Illinois, but not PA she can still win. She'd need Arizona, Nevada and Colorado.

Minnesota, Illinois, and Colorado aren't swing states in this election cycle. (When Biden was still running, there was some speculation that Minnesota might become a swing state, but not anymore.) It's a given that Harris will win those 3 states. Those wins are already "baked in."

If Harris loses PA (19 electoral votes), she'll need more than just Nevada and Arizona (total of 17 electoral votes) to make up for it. She would need a win in either Georgia or North Carolina. Right now, Georgia and North Carolina are both dead heats. Harris's safest and clearest path to victory is still to win Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan, in which case she can lose all the other swing states.

Gwen Walz and Doug Emhoff are campaigning in Raleigh today

Unlike Melania and Usha

Well, very few people outside the battleground states have seen Harris or Walz. Is Robbie Mook involved with the campaign?

Mooks error (well, one of several) was thinking that Wisc was NOT a swing state. Rest assured that the Harris campaign has a laser-like focus on the seven states at play. And if no one outside of those seven "sees" Harris or Walz that probably means they are putting time in resources where it's needed most.

People in Blue states understand. I don't care if she skips NY or CA. I don't care if she skips Illinois. So much fucking focus on what she is or isn't doing, but the media skips over the fact that Trump is just sitting on his ass. This is ridiculous. If the mainstream media gets away with this without massive criticism and awareness from voters then we're doomed.

Yeah, where IS that fat treasonous cunt, anyway?

In court AGAIN? Visiting Pootz? Or sitting on his fat ass eating?

The media never reports that he isn’t making appearances. What about his stupid fucking cult fests? Why isn’t he holding those?

Oprah To Host “Unite For America” Virtual Event For Kamala Harris Next Week:

R552 -Let’s see. Retrying link replacing "x" with Twitter.

Yup. He did. 😒 Tightening the screws in favor of his First Amendment touchiness and personal disfavor of true free speech as his Ketamine addict's sensitivities keep getting trampled as he emerges from his K Hole yet again.

[quote]the media skips over the fact that Trump is just sitting on his ass

[quote]Yeah, where IS that fat treasonous cunt, anyway?

The dunce is obviously being intensively tutored by handlers before the debate. That's an assignment to conjure with. His arrogance had it that he didn't need any preparation, so imagine trying to reason with that stupid old rogue elephant.

It'll be fascinating to watch his naturally flowing offensive lies amended for a while by pseudo-wise advice. Until Kamala coolly gets under his skin, the strain becomes too much, and the twitter and rally Trump spews out again for all to see.

Oprah to Kamala: "Wait! What?"