'Kaos' series on Netflix

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Kaos explores a rarely seen gay experience - and defies a major trope

The Netflix fantasy series explores queerness in multiple forms.

Yes, i just learned of this series last night and am definitely going to watch it this weekend.

I’m an expert in ancient Greece – Netflix’s Kaos is the cleverest retelling of Greek mythology I’ve ever seen

I couldn't even make it through the trailer. I'll pass.

Besides, I hate Jeff Goldblum

I never realized how...swarthy his coloring is.

Wonder what his genetics are.

This show sucked. The main gay guy didn't even get a boyfriend. Sure, he got ONE sex scene, and then he kissed another guy once. That was it. Major disapppointment.

R7 really said “none of you are going to watch this anyway so fuck you…”

R8 I didn't spoil any of the actual plot.

I'm loving this series.

Know very little about Greek gods, will it be confusing?

Not in the least. Explanations abound as each is introduced and developed.

As a Greek with extensive education in GM, I approve of this series. Loved it.

It looks terrible. I like Goldblum but ew no.

For r11.

R7 Does it suck because it sucks OR because it doesn't fulfill your ridiculous requirement for gay characters to have explicit sex and/or partners?

I had no idea Hera was Zesus' sisterwife.

You lost me at Jeff Goldblum.

Just finished it. So, so good and imaginative. *This* is how you do a modern retelling of the Greek mythology and use it to critique contemporary religions while you're at it. Jeff Goldblum is equally hilarious and terrifying when he loses it. Was pleasantly surprised that they didn't make Medusa into a murderous bitch.

I do wish they got even more money, so they could score it properly beyond that one "Vero" chant. On the other hand, all that silence did make the needle drops land harder, so there's that.

Speaking of, the small acts of cruelty by the gods land harder because of the lack of nudity and gore, which is something you'd expect going into a show like this. I'm grateful they didn't go the full The Boys with that, as is fashionable these days.

My favourite part were the permanently terrified Olympus twinks and Goldblum abusing them at every turn! And of course the British actor Nabhaan Rizwan, whose career I've been following closely for years now. He is so dreamy.

And here he is with his even more beautiful brother Mawaan, who pings to me. Honestly, I get a bi vibe from both of them.

Looks like shit.

By the way, Mawaan had a show on BBC last year where DL fave Russell Tovey played his boyfriend.

r20 It looks awesome and it was awesome. Hence the glowing reviews.

r16 Don't bother, you can see from the replies the usual suspects took one look at Izzard and decided it "looks like shit". Wrong audience, unfortunately.

I totally forgot to mention the inclusion of our Judy's original Over the Rainbow. How often does that happen? And yeah, I fucking cried when it happened, sue me.

R18 Goldblum can afford a publicist? Who knew.

He's got all that Fly money.

Agree r24 ❤️

It’s at 69% on RT, which while certified fresh isn’t what I’d call glowing. If I’m relying on the tomatometer, I usually don’t bother trying a show with less than 80-85%.

Thank you r15. Not quite sure how someone with a head full of snakes can be considered “human”. Especially as she’s also dead. Maybe the cast should be divided into “Gods” and “Not Gods but Pretty Much Immortal”.

[quote]I had no idea Hera was Zesus' sisterwife.

R16 - Cronus and Rhea were the parents of Hestia, Demeter, Hera, Hades, Poseidon, and the youngest child - Zeus. Zeus married Hera and they reigned as King and Queen of the gods.

I really enjoyed this series. It was very quirky and unexpected. I don't know how to describe it but I'll definitely watch season 2. Pity there weren't more of the gods in it like Athena, Apollo, Ares, Aphrodite etc. Maybe season 2.

R7 He was not gay. Did you miss the part where he was having sex with both men and women in the first episode? And then fallen in love with a woman in the end?

Why did they made Zeus into such a goofy doofus? Couldn't take him seriously.

Dionysus being bisexual (or rather, pansexual) makes perfect sense, mythology-wise.

The Irish actor that played the musician (Orpheus) was quite bad at acting. And what's up with those eyebrows?

r32 I enjoyed that a lot, he kinda made the show for me. I though his fits of wrath landed that much harder precisely because he was such a clueless goober otherwise.

r34 Yeah, he was definitely the weakest one of the cast. Easy on the eye though, so I didn't mind the one-dimensional acting. I did notice his eyebrows jutting out at certain points, which I wanted to correct.

I covet this pink shirt. COVET it.

I'm not brown though, so it probably wouldn't look as nice on me.

Nabhaan Rizwan is a great reason to watch the show (certainly not the only reason). What do Dataloungers think or know about him?

R38 He got very little screen time. And as someone above said: he was bi, not gay.

Were we watching the same show? He had a ton of screen time.

I wished there had been more explanation of how Zeus' discovery made him and his family into the gods. Also of what Prometheus was being punished for, as it clearly wasn't teaching savage prehistoric humans how to tame fire.

It was indeed due to that, r41.

In the myths, sure. But Demeter talked about Hera spreading bullshit myths to give the family a suitably majestic backstory.

[quote] And what's up with those eyebrows?

Glad I wasn’t the only one triggered by them R34.

[quote] I covet this pink shirt. COVET it.

Me too R37, and it’s not a style I would normally wear either.

r38 I find him just stunning to look at. Love that he hates a regular suit and likes to experiment when dressing for events, so that's very much in line with his character on this show.

I had this gorgeous shot of him as my phone background for about five years, until a couple of months ago. Had no idea he had an even prettier brother!

So... two days in a padded cell, no other distractions or entertainment around, and you could watch either "Kaos" or "The Perfect Couple." Not both. Which would it be?

Is Izzard in boy-mode or girl-mode in this? Let me guess boy-mode - that’s where he makes his money.

Your guess would be mistaken, r47.

Fucking hell. Jeff Goldblum AND Eddie Izzard?

In concept, interesting, but the casting of those two says it's not for me.

R45, Nabhaan was fabulous in 'Informer'. I was hoping for a second series...but not to be. His brother is really good at physical comedy in 'Juice'

"Yeah, he was definitely the weakest one of the cast. Easy on the eye though"

I thought he was hot but had awful skin. Like a Pete Buttigieg who had a rough bout of acne in his adolescence.

And I thought the scoring was great - songs of all various kinds and eras scattered throughout at the right places.

Vero.

r51 Yeah, his skin isn't great and ages him needlessly. But, as a poor, I can understand that not everyone can afford laser resurfacing.

Eight episodes was not enough to get the story going. I am very familiar with Greek mythology and this take needed more exposition to keep the audience interested in a 2nd season.

Goldblum is unbearable and the woman is a talentless cunt.

I enjoyed the series. Watched all eight episodes in a day. Easy to binge.

Orpheus was definitely the weakest actor. I was tired of him from the start. Stephen Dillane is always good, Charon was pretty sexy (beautiful skin tone), President Minos had a fantastic voice, but I loved Cliff Curtis as Poseidon most of all. He was my favorite part of the show. It seemed like he was having a blast. Goldblum- eh, don’t care either way, but it would have been interesting if Hugh Grant had played Zeus as planned. Didn’t care for Hera.

I’ll definitely watch a second season.

Goldblum as Zeus is the BEST casting -- funny, vain, capricious, insecure and malevolent -- it's baked into his brand as an actor.

Couldn't agree with you more, r57. I despise Goldblum, but everything about him that I despise worked perfectly for this character.

R56 Didn't even recognize him. That was Stannis Baratheon

R56 "I’ll definitely watch a second season."

There will be a second season? I thought this was only one season show

[quote] I despise Goldblum

Why?

R60 aw that would be disappointing. Almost everything about the last episode seemed like there was going to be a season two.

I don't think it was planned a limited series.

Given that they haven't even explained who or what "Kaos" is, it's a pretty safe bet it wasn't meant to be a "one and done" limited series. It'll be back, unless the ratings fall short.

I read that the writer/director has three seasons worth of material. I hope we get a second season, I love the world-building and I want to spend more time with Dionysus! Also, Caeneus figured out how to get his soul back and his mom also woke back up and said "Kaos." We need a season with Prometheus at the helm and we need to figure out what or who the hell Kaos is. Eddie "Suzie" Izzard was an inspired casting choice as one of the Fates. They got Zeus but good!

[quote]They got Zeus but good!

I love how unbothered they were while going up in flames.

Did anyone figure out that the Caeneus actor is a trans guy? Cause I didn't.

I kept wondering throughout if he really was because there were no scars around his nips. But then I thought, surely they wouldn't cast a cis guy in the role, that would cause too much outrage in this day and age. So I settled on trans.

Not an expert on the topic, but he may never have developed breasts if he started hormone therapy very early.

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Wasn't Kaos the sinister organization in Get Smart?

I just saw a few minutes of the first episode. Who is the ratty looking homeless women in the grocery store? Is she a figure from Greek mythology?

r69 That's possible, although I don't know how readily available that sort of thing was in England when he was growing up. Then again, he is super young, so maybe "when he was growing up" was only a decade ago, or even less.

r72 That's DL fave Kassandra! Fated by Apollo to utter true prophecies but never to be believed.

Her character also recently appeared in the now-cancelled Time Bandits show with Lisa Kudrow on Apple, where they used her schtick to great comedic effect. It's a big year for Kassandra, apparently.

[quote] Who is the ratty looking homeless women in the grocery store?

[quote] That's DL fave Kassandra! Fated by Apollo to utter true prophecies but never to be believed.

Played by Doctor Who alumni Billie Piper (Rose Tyler)

It's quite possible they covered with makeup and/or scrubbed the scars in post.

I was surpised Billie consented to look haggard, but with tasteful smokey eye

R68 Yes it is a trans actor Misia Butler. I think he is about the most handsome, authentically self-actualized trans person I've ever seen.

For every hundred loose cannons using the trans loophole to run from their traumas or to get attention, there are always one or two who truly seem to be finding themselves and living their actual truths. Misia seems like a really lovely person. I dig.

And so hairy, too! Very sexy.

NOW I know who will play David Hogg in a future Sandy Hook movie. (Will Sasso will play Alex Jones.)

I instantly got a Hoggonian vibe from him as well.

Cancelled.

Yikes, the numbers must have been really, really bad. Sucks, because I really liked it.

Oh fuck. I was really looking forward to seeing what happens in season 2.

That's sad. It was a very good show. Doesn't happen too often that writers create a very distinct universe and still make it easily accessible to viewers. But it looks like the viewers were just not there. Maybe Greek mythology is too special interest.

Netflix did nothing to promote it, yet they promoted the hell out of that piece of dreck, Rebel Moon. At least they're not going to renew S3/4 for RM.

I think Netflix needs to stop with multi-season shows, they don't have the follow through to stick it out, except in rare cases. They need to look at telling a self contained story over a set number of episodes. If they come up with an idea for a sequel story later, then green light that. Or if it is hugely successful, look at how the story could be expanded at that point. Thailand and Korea, for example, make a ton of shows that run 8-14 episodes, and then are done. Also, shows like HBO's Watchmen, or Good Omens on Amazon Prime.

Don't green light a show with a creator who presents a 3-5 season plan if you know you are likely going to cancel it after two seasons, at most.

[quote]I think Netflix needs to stop with multi-season shows, they don't have the follow through to stick it out, except in rare cases.

Agreed R86. I'm fucking sick of this happening. There's no fucking point in watching something and getting interested and attached to it when it just get cancelled.

Nobody wastes money like Netflix. Of course we get to pay for it with the next price increase.

Post about the cancellation got 4.5k comments on the main TV subreddit, which is unprecedented. People are fucking pissed.

Anyway, here's an opinion piece about this shitty state of things.

[quote]Streaming services are over-feeding and starving their audiences at the same time.

[quote] I think Netflix needs to stop with multi-season shows, they don't have the follow through to stick it out, except in rare cases.

BODIES did it smart. They ended their (first season) run with just a hint of a cliffhanger that made the entire season / show still stand on its own with a proper closing.

Same thing with Kleo- a campy, violent German fall-of-Berlin wall espionage series. I was surprised it got an S2.