Dick Sargent was perfect- being he was a gay boy- no attraction at all.
Dick York Was In Love With Elizabeth Montgomery- She Couldn't Stand Him
by Anonymous | reply 112 | September 2, 2024 7:32 AM |
gays are better
by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 27, 2024 2:50 PM |
Dick Sargent was horrible. Absolutely not a drop of talent. Watch That Touch of Mink. Astin almost steals the picture. York was very funny. You could see he was hot for Samantha which gave them a lot of on screen chemistry and you could see why he put up with her being a witch despite being upset with her a lot of the time. Also had a great slow burn.
Sargent was about the unfunniest bitter queen you could imagine. It made Endora's dislike of him all the more understandable. If he were alive today he would be a DLer writing about suicide ideation.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 27, 2024 2:53 PM |
gays do it better
by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 27, 2024 3:02 PM |
R2- By Paul Lynde was a FAR more bitter queen than Dick Sargent ever was.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 27, 2024 3:27 PM |
Wasn't Dick York very ill during his time on the show?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 27, 2024 3:38 PM |
Yes, R5; he essentially destroyed his back while filming High Noon and was in unimaginable pain the rest of his life; that was why he had to leave the show, and why he died fairly prematurely.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 27, 2024 3:42 PM |
R6 He of died of emphysema at 63.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 27, 2024 4:13 PM |
Wikipedia:
"While filming the movie They Came to Cordura (1959) with Gary Cooper and Rita Hayworth, he suffered a permanent, disabling back injury. In York's own words, "Gary Cooper and I were propelling a handcar carrying several 'wounded' men down [the] railroad track. I was on the bottom stroke of this sort of teeter-totter mechanism that made the handcar run. I was just lifting the handle up as the director yelled 'cut!' and one of the 'wounded' cast members reached up and grabbed the handle. Now, instead of lifting the expected weight, I was suddenly, jarringly, lifting his entire weight off the flatbed – 180 pounds[a] or so. The muscles along the right side of my back tore. They just snapped and let loose. And that was the start of it all: the pain, the painkillers, the addiction, the lost career."
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 27, 2024 4:39 PM |
Froug goes on to characterize Montgomery as "crazy" w/o much elaboration.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 27, 2024 4:53 PM |
So they fired the straight stalker junkie and hired a fag. Fixed.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 27, 2024 5:25 PM |
Montgomery supposedly tested with three possible Darrens, and really didn’t want York. But his brashness and gruffness was a good foil for her, which must be why she was overruled.
I agree Sargent was very bland, which York somehow wasn’t, he didn’t seem generic. But between his back and his crush on her, I guess I can see why Montgomery found Dick York a chore to work with and to have to work around.
Good Classic TV dish.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 27, 2024 6:12 PM |
When I was a little kid watching these re-runs, I thought Dick York was just about the ugliest uggo I'd ever seen in the world. I had started the series later, watching Dick Sargent, who in my mind was the far better looking (and loved the snippiness of) actor. I loved Endora and Aunt Agatha and Uncle Arthur. Such camp. How Samantha wound up with a bore like Darrin never made sense.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 27, 2024 6:23 PM |
R12- York did look like a FUCKIN MONKEY 🙈🙉🙊
by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 27, 2024 6:54 PM |
R13 I concur!
by Anonymous | reply 14 | August 27, 2024 6:55 PM |
Probably how he got the part in "Inherit the Wind" - what better actor for the Scopes Monkey Trial?
(I thought Dick York was good-looking)
by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 27, 2024 8:21 PM |
Liz must have done something right...to be surrounded by all those Dicks.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 27, 2024 9:22 PM |
Who was the third Darren who was tested? Anyone famous?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 27, 2024 9:57 PM |
^ Who were the two others tested before York got the role? I read R11’s post to long predate the replacement casting of Sargent.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 27, 2024 10:09 PM |
Poor guy.
3 pack a day smoker, serious work-related back injury, drug addiction from the pain meds, unrequited love, dead at 63.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 27, 2024 10:26 PM |
York had a great ass. Sargent, not so much.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 27, 2024 10:33 PM |
York was the better Darren.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 27, 2024 10:34 PM |
York is amiable in My Sister Eillen. And very evil in I forget if it was a Twilight Zone or Hitchcock Presents.
He is very funny in the Bewitched episode where he has to change a tire in the pouring rain in his suit.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 27, 2024 10:56 PM |
In Elizabeth’s defense, her husband was producer of Bewitched and they had marital problems. They finished the show after eight seasons because Elizabeth had left him and moved in with a director.
Is it possible that York was all up in her face at times when she was having problems and Sargent just minded his business and played it cool?
by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 28, 2024 12:59 AM |
I think Elizabeth may have been more comfortable with drier, more sarcastic humor than York's wild physical expressions.
Moorehead was the opposite; she was unhappy when York left the show and was cool but professional to Sargent.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 28, 2024 1:02 AM |
Neither Dick was a Robert Reed, that’s for sure. Maybe if Sargent got a perm?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 28, 2024 1:12 AM |
R18 The other two actors up for the role were Dick Sargent and Richard Crenna. Sargent supposedly claimed that he had won the role first, but producer Asher denied this. The story goes like this:
[quote] Dick Sargent had claimed he had first won the role of Darrin before York. He was under contract with Universal to co-star in TV’s short-lived The Tammy Grimes Show. As fate would have it, Grimes’ character on the show was named “Tamantha” — with a “t” — and the actress was ABC’s first choice to play Samantha on Bewitched, but she declined. (And instead took the lead in another supernatural-based production, this time on Broadway in Noel Coward’s Blythe Spirit.) However, in 1999, Bewitched producer/director William Asher (married to Montgomery during the original run of Bewitched) said York was “always the first choice” to play Darrin.
Source at archive.ph link:
by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 28, 2024 1:25 AM |
Thanks, R26. I’d like to see how Richard Crenna would’ve handled the role. But was being a Dick a prerequisite for the job? I guess Dick Powell had aged out for the part by then.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 28, 2024 1:53 AM |
^ And DVD was already doing his own eponymous sitcom.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | August 28, 2024 1:54 AM |
Someday, I swear, I'm going to learn to distinguish between them. This thread will be my guide.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 28, 2024 2:27 AM |
Poor Alice Pearce. Dying of cancer but having to play out her contract. In some of those episodes, even the makeup can’t hide how sick she was. And they waited until after she died to award her the Emmy.
Did Bewitched have the most cast replacements? Darren, Mrs. Kravitz, Louise Tate.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 28, 2024 2:34 AM |
It wasn’t “Blythe” [sic] Spirit,” it was “High Spirits,” the musical adaptation of “Blithe Spirit.”
by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 28, 2024 2:52 AM |
Tammy Grimes would have been an exhausting Samantha, but a fun Serena.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | August 28, 2024 2:58 AM |
[Quote] the straight stalker junkie
Let it never be said that the Data Lounge is not a place of compassion.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | August 28, 2024 3:04 AM |
I’m glad R’s 20 and 22 respectively mentioned Dick York’s ass and his role in 1955’s “My Sister Eileen.” In that he plays the young married man who is a physicl fitness nut, always exercising, and he’s mostly seen in sweatpants. That was how I first saw and marveled at his body and his big bubble butt.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | August 28, 2024 3:06 AM |
He smoked 3 packs a day! No breaks.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | August 28, 2024 3:14 AM |
R27 Makes you wonder if they considered Richard "Dick" Long. .. He was the right age and was in-between "77 Sunset Strip" and "The Big Valley" at the time.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | August 28, 2024 8:35 AM |
Dick York was fabulous and stole the show; no wonder Montgomery, a nepo baby with limited talent, didn't like him.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | August 28, 2024 10:30 AM |
Loved Dick York but Richard Crenna was, I thought, very handsome, sexy and funny. How on earth did he not get the part.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | August 28, 2024 10:47 AM |
When I watched the show as a kid I could never understand what Samantha saw in Darren - either one - both were so controlling and neurotic. And unattractive.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | August 28, 2024 12:00 PM |
Dick Sargent appeared on "Broadside" (the female "McHale's Navy") that season under his Universal contract. The execrable "Tammy Grimes Show" came later. Crenna would have been an interesting choice---he could play a full range of emotion (unlike Sargent) and although he usually played in light comedy and tv, he also played heavies in film and had a shortlived dramatic series on tv. He was much loved by everyone who worked with him. He would have been better known than Montgomery at that time--I wonder if that was an issue. York had mostly played supporting roles in films and guest shots on anthology series.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | August 28, 2024 12:05 PM |
Everything you need to know about the Tammy Grimes Show. Producer William Dozier (best known for Batman)was the outgoing head of Screen Gems when Bewitched was planned so he probably did crib some Bewitched references for this debacle.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | August 28, 2024 12:10 PM |
Such old news. Anyone who's a BEWITCHED fan has known this since York left the show in 1969 and made this public.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | August 28, 2024 12:11 PM |
He always reminded me of an ugly version of Bob Crane.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | August 28, 2024 12:14 PM |
The Gays are better
by Anonymous | reply 44 | August 28, 2024 12:43 PM |
I thought Elizabeth and her husband came up with the idea for Bewitched, how was Tammy Grimes the first choice?
by Anonymous | reply 45 | August 28, 2024 1:09 PM |
Montgomery played no role in creating the show. Tammy Grimes was the original choice. It was created by Sol Saks and harry Ackerman, and loosely based on an old movie called "I Married a Witch".
by Anonymous | reply 46 | August 28, 2024 1:37 PM |
Dick York could have sued the producers of They Came to Cordura and retired with the payout.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | August 28, 2024 5:19 PM |
I watched a documentary on Bewitched just the other day. It didn't mention anything about Elizabeth Montgomery wanting to get rid of Dick York.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | August 28, 2024 5:41 PM |
R48: So what?
by Anonymous | reply 49 | August 28, 2024 6:22 PM |
I was just making a comment. Don't overreact.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | August 28, 2024 6:23 PM |
R2 is quite the homophobe.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | August 28, 2024 7:09 PM |
Actually I agree with R2. Sargent was a charmless crank on the show.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | August 28, 2024 7:27 PM |
Poor Dick was definitely not living the lux life at the end. This was where he lived in Michigan, when he died. The house was finally demolished in 2011.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | August 28, 2024 7:33 PM |
R38 Crenna didn't really want to do another TV sitcom. "The Real McCoys" had just ended, and during the time it took them to cast Samantha, he was offered the lead in "Slattery's People," where he would be the title character in the drama.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | August 28, 2024 7:47 PM |
Crenna would have been good. He didn't project Dick York's level of exasperation, but could have done the park with more warmth and subtlety. Sargent was horrible,
by Anonymous | reply 55 | August 28, 2024 8:20 PM |
Crenna was the best looking of the three. And TV viewers loved his Luke McCoy. He was nominated for an Emmy in that role.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | August 28, 2024 8:33 PM |
[quote] He always reminded me of an ugly version of Bob Crane.
Bob Crane was an ugly version of Bob Crane. York was cute in a quirky kind of way, and like others have said, he had a great ass. I also thought he was underrated in terms of physical comedy. What made Darrin #1 funny was the fact that he wore his emotions on his face. It was perfect for the times when Darrin was frustrated with Samantha and Endora. He was actually very funny and funny is sexy.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | August 28, 2024 8:46 PM |
R56: IMpressive when you consider it was an awful hick show, a sort of proto-Beverly Hillbillies.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | August 28, 2024 8:52 PM |
R53- His house at Morning Glory Circle was a much nicer house than that hovel in Michigan.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | August 28, 2024 9:10 PM |
R53=Gladys Kravitz
by Anonymous | reply 60 | August 28, 2024 9:18 PM |
Oh you shut your filthy mouth about 'The Real McCoys'. It was a favorite in my 50s & 60s youth. I've been binge watching it on Sling TV for the last several days. Richard Crenna was a dreamboat.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | August 28, 2024 9:23 PM |
Growing up, watching first run episodes, I assumed the Stephenses lived in California.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | August 28, 2024 9:35 PM |
I so hoped that Mad Men would have made some sly reference to the competing ad team of McMann & Tate.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | August 28, 2024 9:45 PM |
If you watch some of the old Hazel episodes you'll recognize the Stephens house as being right next door. And if I remember correctly the Leave It To Beaver house was either across the street or just down the street. The 'I Dream Of Jeannie' house was on the same street. So sad the studio bulldozed all those famous old sets not all that long ago.
I think on the show the Stephens family lived in New Rochelle. Of course his office was in Manhattan.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | August 28, 2024 9:46 PM |
[quote]I think on the show the Stephens family lived in New Rochelle. Of course his office was in Manhattan.
Was there ever any mention of cold weather or snow?
by Anonymous | reply 65 | August 28, 2024 10:08 PM |
It was explicitly stated that the Stephens lived in Westport, Connecticut. Also the original title was "The Witch of Westport."
by Anonymous | reply 66 | August 28, 2024 10:34 PM |
No---they lived in some faked name town in what assume would be Westchester County. The Petries (Dick Van Dyke) lived in New Rochelle.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | August 28, 2024 10:41 PM |
Now I want to see the sitcom that has the Petries living next door to the Stephenses.
"Oh, Raaahhb!"
"Say-aaam!"
by Anonymous | reply 68 | August 28, 2024 11:38 PM |
Maybe Elizabeth was freaked out by Dick's incessant blinking.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | August 29, 2024 12:56 AM |
I agree the first Darren played by York was a better show fit, because as with Ricky to Lucy in the previous drcade’s “ILL” that Asher also worked on incidentally, yes York was a better “threat” to Sam when he caught or suspected her or Tabitha of trying to use witchcraft and inadvertently cause lots of problems—including ones that got his character in trouble! Also those earlier-seasons Samantha seemed more intellectual and seemingly more believable in having maybe a cerebral-component attraction to York.
Then Sargent came along and the show dynamic seemed to shift-adding to and including Sam becoming much groovier and dressing/acting almost like a midlife-crisis liberated swinger..
by Anonymous | reply 70 | August 29, 2024 1:21 AM |
R27 Richard Long was handsome but kind of dull as an actor.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | August 29, 2024 1:24 AM |
York was the better Darren. Dick Sargent had a coldness to him (not fitting for the character).
Both Mrs. Kravitzes were good.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | August 29, 2024 1:34 AM |
Sargent looks like he’s smelling cookies.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | August 29, 2024 1:44 AM |
The second Mrs. Kravitz was awful.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | August 29, 2024 1:45 AM |
Both Darwoods were hideous
by Anonymous | reply 75 | August 29, 2024 1:51 AM |
The Bewitched house itself was a mirror image of a real house in Santa Monica, California. The main difference is that for the TV series, they added a garage on the front of the house, while the real house sits on a corner lot, so the garage is in the rear on the side that is accessible from the side street. While growing up, my best friend's parents owned this house, and I spent many hours there. The house is still there, and I drive by it every once in awhile when visiting my sister who still lives in the area. This house in Santa Monica was also used as the home that Gidget lived in for the original movie with Sandra Dee. They filmed some interior shots in it, but I think it was mainly used for exterior ones.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | August 29, 2024 4:12 AM |
I like when they go into Manhattan which at that time had hills in the background.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | August 29, 2024 4:26 AM |
He’s right about Elizabeth Montgomery, she was very sexy, and that comes through in all her TV work in the ‘50s and ‘60s before “Bewitched.”
She was a natural before the camera, and into the post-“Bewitched” ‘80s she was a TV movie queen, racking up big ratings and getting regular Emmy nominations. So I’m guessing she was popular with colleagues and executives alike.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | August 29, 2024 2:25 PM |
R74- You don't like her because she said to Lucy when she had the cup on her head in the subway- Either that or she played tennis with a saw LOSA!
by Anonymous | reply 80 | August 29, 2024 3:57 PM |
The second Mrs. Kravitz had the unfortunate luck to follow a brilliant performer. Alice Pearce was excellent as the nosy neighbor.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | August 29, 2024 4:15 PM |
York was just higher manic energy. Sergeant was so much calmer.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | August 29, 2024 4:52 PM |
York also benefitted by being the first Durwood, when the show was at its best.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | August 29, 2024 5:14 PM |
R66- WRONG 😑
The episode where Aunt Clara conjures up Queen Victoria in the Stephens house at Morning Glory Circle . The queen says - Where are we?
Aunt Clara responds - You’re in New York your majesty. Plus the license plates of the Stephens cars said New York.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | August 29, 2024 7:09 PM |
He wasn't calmer he was dead as an actor. A 2x4 was a third rail compared to him.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | August 29, 2024 9:38 PM |
R84 There were allusions to NY throughout the show, obviously since Darrin worked in Manhattan. However the only time a specific city is mentioned is in S7 E23 when Endora has a line about Westport, Connecticut. Aunt Clara was a clueless old bitty so I'm taking Endora's word for it.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | August 29, 2024 9:53 PM |
I've always said that York was the 'first husband' which we, the family, liked but the wife (Samantha) didn't. Sargent comes across as the second husband that the wife likes, but we, the family, don't have the heart to tell her we don't like him.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | August 29, 2024 10:18 PM |
If Sargent Dick was cast as the first Darren the show would never have gotten renewed after the first season.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | August 29, 2024 10:22 PM |
Paul Lynde was such a talent and he seemed like such a huge part of the show. I think he was only in like 10 episodes and two of those weren't as Uncle Arthur.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | August 29, 2024 10:25 PM |
I fantasized about Richard Crenna when I was a boy and watched The Real McCoys in reruns.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | August 29, 2024 10:31 PM |
I fantasized about Monster.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | August 29, 2024 10:33 PM |
Jeopardy had a "Sargent/York" category (Double Jeopardy round at the link).
by Anonymous | reply 92 | August 29, 2024 10:36 PM |
By the end of the series Tabitha was carrying more of the shows than Derwood.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | August 29, 2024 10:37 PM |
Wasn’t Richard Crenna the owner of the biggest dick in Hollywood? Like Berle/Sinatra class but even bigger than them? Maybe that’s why he always went by Richard and not Dick.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | August 29, 2024 11:09 PM |
York comes off like a creeper in R78's video. I can only imagine how creepy he was while still in Montgomery's presence. I can see why she was annoyed by him.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | August 29, 2024 11:23 PM |
Paul Lynde was supposed to be a frequent reoccurring character on the show starting in September, 1965 as Asher and Montgomery loved his work so much from season one as the driving instructor. They convinced ABC they needed to bring him in for multiple episodes per season as 'Uncle Arthur' for the rest of the show's run (it was contracted for five seasons at that time).
In July, 1965, just as season two was ready to start production (and ABC was negotiating with Lynde), Lynde made headlines in Hollywood over his involvement in the tragic death of actor James Davidson at the St Francis Drake Hotel in San Francisco. Since the Davidson investigation was in its beginning stages, ABC decided to play it safe and contracted him as a guest character, averaging just two episodes per season (Asher and Montgomery stood by their friend's innocence, and was not happy with ABC's offer).
Lynde was proven innocent when the investigation ended months later, and his career took off shortly after. On October 16, 1966 he joined 'The Hollywood Squares' in its second week of the premiere season - where he stayed for many seasons. Incidentally, Agnes Moorehead was on the very first episode of 'THS' but had to leave the show, as she found it would be difficult to continue with the show and film 'Bewitched' over at ABC.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | August 29, 2024 11:29 PM |
[quote] Wasn’t Richard Crenna the owner of the biggest dick in Hollywood?
Not when Harry Belafonte was around.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | August 29, 2024 11:44 PM |
They only used to play the color episodes when I was a kid, so Sargent was always the "real" Darren
by Anonymous | reply 100 | August 30, 2024 12:13 AM |
[quote] St Francis Drake Hotel
Didn’t know he’d been canonized.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | August 30, 2024 12:30 AM |
R86- Wrong again. Samantha was standing right next to Aunt Clara when she told the queen they were in New York. Samantha did not correct her because Aunt Clara WAS correct.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | August 30, 2024 3:06 AM |
R102 What exactly is that supposed to prove? She was standing right next to Endora in the scene I mentioned as well. Also, once again, THE SHOW WAS ORIGINALLY CONCEIVED AS "THE WITCH OF WESTPORT."
by Anonymous | reply 103 | August 31, 2024 7:41 PM |
SHEILA WAS A CUNT!
by Anonymous | reply 104 | September 1, 2024 12:05 AM |
Both episodes where Sheila gets her comeuppance were among my favorites. I also loved when Endora got pie'd.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | September 1, 2024 12:09 AM |
I liked the episode when Endora lost her powers and had to pour her own coffee.
"it's heavy"
by Anonymous | reply 106 | September 1, 2024 12:16 AM |
Her second takedown. Sheila to her credit does some amazing work with her eyeballs.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | September 1, 2024 12:26 AM |
Actress Nancy Kovack, who played "Sheila," went on to marry conductor, Zubin Mehta in 1969. Both are still alive, age 89 and 88, respectively. Photo from five years ago when he retired from the Israeli Philharmonic:
by Anonymous | reply 109 | September 1, 2024 1:16 AM |
My favorite episode is the one when Darrin's best friend is super rich. The wife is always rubbing Sam's nose in it. So Sam whips up a rare fur coat. Ends up giving it away to the bitch wife. The big bonus is Endora defending Derwood.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | September 1, 2024 1:20 AM |
R109: I thought Mehta and Kovack divorced many years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | September 2, 2024 5:04 AM |
R111 No, they're still together, and I'm unaware of any past split. As far as I know they still consider the compound they bought in the Brentwood area of Los Angeles back in the mid-70s their home base. They love that place. It used to be Steve McQieen's house. You can find photos of them together from last year in India when Zubin accepted some award. Also, they made the news in Italy in 2022 when they jointly announced that they were donating $1 million (in Tesla Shares) to some music theatre where Zubin is director emeritus.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | September 2, 2024 7:32 AM |