It's a tough one for me.
Who looked the best at her peak: Olivia de Havilland or Joan Fontaine?
by Anonymous | reply 42 | September 2, 2024 6:44 AM |
Both brilliant/beautiful it’s a tie. That they didn’t get along-who can’t relate to that?
by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 25, 2024 1:15 AM |
Joan.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 25, 2024 1:18 AM |
Joan was prettier.
Olivia was a pretentious bitch but she was the better actress (although Joan was good too).
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 25, 2024 1:53 AM |
I always preferred Joan Fontaine.
In the 1930s, when Olivia de Havilland was a fresh-faced, ingenue in films like “The Adventures of Robin Hood,” she was the more beautiful sister.
But when Joan glammed-up at the end of “Rebecca” and in her next film “Suspicion,” she was far more beautiful than Livvy, who started wearing her hair up in a severe ‘do and began to pack on weight across the midriff — she got quite matronly looking.
And while Joan was more mannered and arch, I think she was the far better actress. Olivia always seems to be trying too hard in things like “The Heiress” (which was stolen by Ralph Richardson as her father anyway).
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 25, 2024 2:16 AM |
They were both very pretty...not classically beautiful.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 25, 2024 2:18 AM |
Joan......
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 25, 2024 2:24 AM |
I saw Joan in an episode of the Alfred Hitchcock hour where she annoys everyone around her to the point where her husband tries to poison her. She constantly has this smug smirk and the one raised eyebrow and that lop sided flip hairdo.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 25, 2024 3:07 AM |
Gary Merrill, Bette Davis' longest suffering husband, played Joan's husband in the episode R9 mentioned. Joan did such a good job portraying that character, Gary's character seemed fully justified in trying to poison her.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 25, 2024 3:10 AM |
Is there a third choice?
by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 25, 2024 3:30 AM |
[quote]Is there a third choice?
There was a third de Havilland sister...Midge. She had issues and was never spoken of.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 25, 2024 3:59 AM |
That photo speaks volumes, r14. I wonder what wrangling they had to go through to make it happen.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 25, 2024 4:06 AM |
Even in peaceful slumber, the coif keeps going.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 25, 2024 4:11 AM |
R17, indeed
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 25, 2024 4:04 PM |
Gary Merrill was handsome and gave you man back in the day-married to Bette Davis 10 years took its toll.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 25, 2024 4:22 PM |
‘’Born to be bad’’ 1950 stared Joan and from what I had read about Joan seemed to almost play out in the film. We’ll never know for sure but Joan’s estranged daughters were very close to their Aunt Olivia all her life.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 25, 2024 4:30 PM |
Both women with the right director could be phenomenal.
This is Joan Fontaine at her absolutely career best, in "Rebecca"--coming down the grand staircase for her early entrance at the Manderley Ball, happily (and gauchely) anticipating how delighted she thinks her husband is going to be at her cleverness in copying one of the portraits on the wall of the house gallery (with no idea the disturbed housekeeper, Mrs. Danvers, has tricked her into making a choice that is sure to infuriate him).
(btw--I love the little light waltz Franz Waxman composed for this sequence.)
by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 25, 2024 4:33 PM |
Joan Fontaine looks like Scarlett Johansson - great cheekbones.
Olivia de Havilland has more of a porcelain doll look.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 25, 2024 5:08 PM |
I have to laugh at the Alfred Hitchcock Hour episode with Joan. Everyone hates her for what they see as interfering in their lives but I agree with everything she says!
by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 25, 2024 5:14 PM |
[quote] Everyone hates her for what they see as interfering in their lives but I agree with everything she says!
She was a proto-Datalounger.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 25, 2024 5:15 PM |
Team Fontaine. Livvie was an uber-cunt and just an all-around horrible person.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 25, 2024 5:16 PM |
For me Oliva de has no sex appeal, even in her virginal roles with Errol Flynn. She was a frump. Joan was not.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 25, 2024 5:18 PM |
Fontaine team
by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 25, 2024 5:21 PM |
I loved Olivia as Miriam Deering.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | August 25, 2024 5:31 PM |
Joan was smarter. Watch her in this interview for her memoir. Olivia is a dull interview.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 25, 2024 5:35 PM |
That interview is interesting (at R29), suggests they were a rather coldly passionate family, prickly, strong-willed, steely, competitive, not concerned with kindness or warmth. The perfect temperament for succeeding in a difficult business.
No wonder both sisters had such long careers and rubbed each other the wrong way right up to the end.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 26, 2024 3:29 AM |
They looked more alike as they aged.
Joan's daughter Deborah said she feels quite sure that her mother was bipolar.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 26, 2024 5:07 AM |
I didn't know that Joan had her passport taken away during the HUAC period.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | August 26, 2024 6:07 AM |
Bless all of you homosexuals for your kind words about me. You’ll always have a supporter of you sodomite ways in me.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | August 26, 2024 7:21 AM |
Here's the whole Jeanne Wolf interview with Joan.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | August 26, 2024 10:13 PM |
Was Olivia the fattest centenerian ever? Usually when you read about super old people you see photos of little old ladies, but Olivia was chunky until the very end. I guess when you have super good genes you can even get away with that.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | August 26, 2024 10:22 PM |
R38=Zombie Joan Fontaine
by Anonymous | reply 39 | August 27, 2024 12:36 AM |
Ditto the zombie R38 she is Joan posting from beyond. Perhaps Olivia was on meds that had side effects-most folks just don’t live that long.She was doing many things right. Joan was notoriously harsh to people NOT in the Show Business. Olivia only responded to Joan’s crazy behavior and comments.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | August 27, 2024 1:48 AM |
Crawford wasn’t the only Joan hated by here kids.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | August 27, 2024 1:50 AM |
Airport '77 is the role I had been waiting for!
by Anonymous | reply 42 | September 2, 2024 6:44 AM |