Media complaining that DNC is chaotic and poorly run

You can tell it’s a mess because of the over scheduled first night. Hopefully they get it straight from now on. I think it’s too many egos when the Repubs only have to kiss one ass.. Trump’s.

"Too many great speeches, too much applause ... how do we spin that as a negative for the Dems?"

WTF is semafor dot com???

Too many speeches pushed Biden off prime time. Really not great.

So far, the political protests have been a bust.

They have rolled up their tents and gone home.

The Dem Convention is a 10/10 politically.

It is a thousand Nielsen points for Reality Programming.

Trump must be throwing boxes of Cheerios in his Cottage.

Laissez-les manger des Cheerios !

Most people were only willing to allot one hour for viewing this. Hillary, one other person and Biden should have been the only people speaking.

Do Americans really tune in in the millions to watch live political speeches in prime time? In my country party conferences are daytime affairs which only the wonks watch live. Most people get their digested versions nicely prepared for the evening news.

[quote]Do Americans really tune in in the millions to watch live political speeches in prime time?

Yes you freaking dumbass.

[quote]WTF is semafor dot com???

Here's their executive team, the usual suspects of corporate media douchebags who insist on being sucked up to (and sometimes sucked off).

The writer used to write Politico's West Wing Playbook, that mean girl gossipy den of vipers (yes I know it's our term) that demands to be acknowledged.

r7, You are witnessing a four-year buildup to the nomination process.

We expect a prime time extravaganza as all those viewers who only watch Fox/OAN/Newsmax might tune in and see Earth 1.

Trump is a scab OP.

I watched it all. Biden was impressive.

All this handwringing over the lateness of Biden's speech is just the media looking for negatives. The world is now full of ways to watch and rewatch speeches from last night anytime you want—on your hand-held phone, for heaven's sake. It's not 1972 anymore (and Biden's speech wasn't all that late anyway).

R13 = defends Madonna coming late to her concerts

I work on events like this. You back time the show run. Tony Goldwyn, handsome, eloquent, not an emcee. You need someone flex, in the moment. Protect Biden & HC in prime slots. Start at 6pm ET if you must. Let people eat dinner while watching UAW daddy. Build to the historical moments w contingencies. Sizzle reels. Bring out the emcee. Term limits. I mean TIME limits. 3 people intro-ing Biden? Two too many! Bringing out Ashley Biden screamed not seeing Hunter. And many are right. So. Much. Ego.

R15 knows of what they speak.

If the media doesn't have something to bitch about, they'll find it.

That said, I challenge anybody to match me for being a couch-potato, political theatre junkie. Hell, once in a while, for a fix, I willingly climb into the tractor beam of whatever obscure, but live, event C-Span may be covering.

So, when I find myself agreeing with r15 and r16, as I do about last night, there's a scheduling issue problem.

I'm speculating that the log-jam has eased, however, and tonight's program will be tighter.

THe Media was just bitching to be bitching. The fact is Chicago is in a different time zone and so when it's 9 PM there it's 10 PM for the rest of the Eastern time zone. And obviously the people who bitched never went to a convention because this is how it is. The opening night is always glitchy and it always has the random committee reports and minor speakers early in the schedule. I Remember one governor getting pissed off because he was assigned a 3 PM speech and there was hardly anyone in the hall, back in 1988 in Atlanta. I worked that convention. And Atlanta traffic is a holy mess. I'm so glad they didn't come here. They should have gone to PA honestly. That race is too close. Tonight will go smoother. HArrison is a good chairman in that he is hardly ever seen but gets a lot done. I wonder if Kamala will pick a new chair when the DNC meets next winter. She ought to leave Jamie alone. If we get the Senate and the House back I would leave him as chair.

If Heaven exists and you bitches get there, you'll all find something to complain about.

lol, r19.

[quote]The fact is Chicago is in a different time zone and so when it's 9 PM there it's 10 PM for the rest of the Eastern time zone.

No shit you stupid fucking bitch. Guess what? If you are in the Pacific Time Zone and you tuned in to watch the DNC for one hour starting at 7, and he’s not on until 8:30, chances are you will not have stuck around by then!

Oh, you hoes woke up CRANKY today.

R18, he needs to challenge Miz Lindz...

I watched on C-Span and liked listening to everybody......except saggy tits Jill and daughter Ashley....WTF cares about them?

Joe was okay....his speech was good, but he was still your slobbering grandpa who doesn't know if he's eating oatmeal or mashed potatoes.

And, r25, your diaper wearing boy Trump doesn't know whether to scratch his watch or wind his ass.

R26 that is magnificent.

I watched the whole thing. I didn’t care that it ran long. It was worth it.

I thought it was fantastic. Fuck the media. I suspect they’re rooting for Trump just because it will ensure high ratings for next four years. Seriously, fuck them.

I seem to recall an episode of The West Wing where the networks were complaining about the conventions running too long, because it meant the networks couldn't air better rated programming and so sell more advertising.

Pushing Joe to after his and east coast bedtime wasn’t a bug; it was a feature.

I replied in other RNC post but worth mentioning again. They’ve been working on this campaign for one month. They are smart to use every moment this week to get the message out, however long it takes.

R29 -

Exactly

Idiot at R32

The message is only heard if it is given within the time frame that the greatest number of people are watching

Really? This is one of the most important elections of our lives. Every moment counts. The highlights alone are gold.

I agree this is stupid. Let Biden talk because he’s the current President, but put him on early because he’s 82 and gets sundowning.

And they should have nixed all Clintons and Obamas. The theme is “we’re not going back.” We don’t need all these blasts from the past. Showcase the younger faces from the party.

I’m loving every minute of this convention. It’s not just a TV show. Clips from all the important moments will be shown again many times on many platforms. And time zones are different in the US & around the world. Everyone knows what Biden has to say. Showcasing a bunch of other speakers along with the big names is smart. Let them all contribute to the campaign & the party.

I watched until i couldn't stay awake any longer. Some great speakers. Joe did great. There were moments when I kept thinking "just land the plane, Joe", but he did very well. His daughter came across as a rich cunt but her resume shows she strives to give back. That said, I cannot stand her and if seated next to her at a dinner party, I would have to get drunker than normal and hit my weed pen in the bathroom just to deal with her voice.

A lot of media has thoroughly discredited itself over the past 3 years. Do I have to care that they are bitching about an inconsequential things like this one?

Just goes to show the bias of the NY based media.

Remember, these are the people who -- just weeks ago -- were SALIVATING over the idea of covering a bloody open convention. Covering speeches by AOC and Jamie Raskin and Hillary is not what they wanted to be doing on the first night.

[quote] "Too many great speeches, too much applause ... how do we spin that as a negative for the Dems?"

[quote] —The Media

The Democratic National Convention was full of energy, unity, and MARQUEE SPEAKERS. It was an overabundance of Prime Time content!

How that's bad for Kamala Harris.

-New York Times

[quote] If the media doesn't have something to bitch about, they'll find it.

[quote] THe Media was just bitching to be bitching.

Exactly. I'm starting to see a pattern here.

Everything the Democrats do right, you will see the media complaining about. And conversely, you will see them amplifying negative things, like the so-called protesters (paid by Republicans) who were a big NOTHING.

Then you have them cheering for the Republican Convention, like it was the greatest thing ever, with a whole lineup of nobodies. But don't pay attention to that, or the lies, or the lack of any substantial facts given by the speakers, Trump can do no wrong in their eyes.

This is why I stopped watching the mainstream media.

They lick Trump's ass, while constantly criticizing Democrats.

Fuck them.

As the hour dragged on last night and we approached the 11 o'clock hour on the East coast, I said to hubby that the media will no doubt start complaining about the convention running over and he mentioned that it didn't matter because the majority of the people who will see coverage of Biden's speech won't see it on TV. That's why the DNC invited in and credentialed more influencers/podcasters than ever, dedicated space to them right there in front and even on the stage (there was a bank of desks with workstations set up right there stage left), and has rightly decided which asses to kiss upsetting the traditional media ever so. To the traditional media bitching about it all this morning, I say "sucks to be you" after they spent the better part of the last year doing everything they could to hurt the Democrats while turning a blind eye to the obviously worse (by an order of magnitude) problems on the right.

[quote]The Biden White House and his former campaign (essentially the same staff as the current Harris campaign) were deeply critical of the New York Times and other major nonpartisan media organizations over their coverage of the president, his mental faculties, and of Donald Trump, who the campaign believed got unfairly positive coverage from mainstream press.

Now why would the Biden White House feel that way? Just because two candidates appeared on the debate stage and one spouted a firehose of lies nonstop for 90 minutes and the other was slow to respond, got confused, and delivered a lackluster performance and we all know how the coverage went. In short, you wouldn't know that there were two candidates on that stage, just the one battling age-related cognitive decline. But let me be clear because both old men are battling the same issues, but only one pays the price: you would have thought Joe Biden was the only old man running for the office and Donold was... not there. No reporting on the lies that were coming at the rate of about 4 whoppers per speaking minute. Not a single above-the-fold front page story covering Trump's verbal gaffes, misstatements and rambling answers that did not address the questions asked. No, that was exclusively Biden territory.

And the media won. Biden dropped out and it has been delicious watching the media sit there dazed and confused and the Republicans still hunched over their guts after what Shady JD termed "a sucker punch". If there was a consolation prize to be awarded, it should go to Biden: he sacrificed his second term to save democracy from the theocratic fascists [italic]and[/italic] the media. Thank you Joe indeed.

So when the Harris campaign makes the decision to bypass the media and go directly to voters, the holy God-damned [italic]New York Times[/italic] and legacy media writ large should take a step back and ask themselves why and perhaps engage in some critical thinking. But that assumes they're still capable of critical thinking, so there is that.

The tv media are locked into the prime-time mentality while growing numbers are watching live and via clips on multiple platforms.

Bravo, R44!!

People watch highlights online so the timing was fine.

Does anyone think that the Dems did the overscheduling on purpose so Joe would NOT be seen in prime time in the East, just in case he was like he was at the debate?

[quote] Meghan McCain slams whatever 'a--hole' put Joe Biden on DNC stage late at night: 'Disrespectful'

"I can’t stay up this late, we all have lives and kids. God speed to our 81 year old President getting through the speech at this hour," the ex-"View" star said.

Months after admittedly sacrificing a few hours of suffering through Bradley Cooper's Maestro, former View cohost and conservative political commentator Meghan McCain has again taken public her battle with sleepytime as she attempted to soldier through the broadcast before President Joe Biden spoke Monday evening at the Democratic National Convention.

"I’m tapping out - I can’t stay up this late, we all have lives and kids. God speed to our 81 year old President getting through the speech at this hour," McCain, 39, shared on X at exactly 11:00 p.m., prior to Biden's appearance on stage at the DNC in Chicago. Biden's appearance came weeks after he announced that he would not seek re-election in the 2024 presidential race, after repeated calls (including from McCain's prior View colleagues) for him to bow out over concerns about his age.

McCain continued: "Whatever producers did this to him and let it go over this long at this hour is an a--hole and it is disrespectful to Biden."

Approximately 13 minutes prior, at 10:47 p.m., the Meghan McCain War Room sounded an alarm when the controversial figure realized that Biden had yet to appear on the first night of the convention.

"Are they seriously going to put President Biden on at midnight?!?" the daughter of the late Senator John McCain asked, though one user responded to remind her about time zones. "It's only 9 30 in Chicago didn't you say you were going to Bed," the user replied.

Earlier, McCain complained about DNC timing cutting into her night with her children.

"This convention is SO LATE. You guys I’m old and I have toddlers! Who wants to stay up this late?!" McCain wrote.

By 9:07 p.m., McCain had already grown tired of the convention, as she slammed the roster of speakers who'd already spoken during the telecast.

"How did any of these people get elected to anything?!? There is no charisma at all with any of these speakers," said McCain.

In a moment of cheery clarity, McCain praised Vice President Kamala Harris (whom she called "classy and pretty," months after saying Harris is proof that "a woman can't be Vice President) and, apparently, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — both of whom also appeared at Monday night's event.

^ No one cares what Moogan has to say.

Political conventions always run long and you know Biden's speech will be endlessly rerun on CNN, etc.

OP must be one of our tiresome Atlanta troll/queen/boosters. Chicago is logistically better. The convention center is away from the Loop and easier to secure/manage than Atlanta's facility, even though delegates have to be bussed in from hotels. The Chicago lakefront is a much better place to be in August than Atlanta.

I just saw a headline mentioning violence at the dnc? Bullshit?

The weather this week in Chicago is heavenly--75, sunny, and breezy, no humidity. I can't even imagine the apocalyptic heat and humidity of Atlanta in August.

Where, R52? No offense but please link.

[quote]Pushing Biden’s speech out of Prime Time is entirely the result of bad planning.

This may come as a shock to you OP, but the whole country is not on Eastern Daylight Time.

🎶 I saw a man who pissed on his wife...in Chic-aaa-go! That's my kinda town! 🎶

The majority of the country will never see Biden’s speech because they won’t watch the DNC. But putting him on so late deprived the most populated region iof seeing at least some of it. Great job DNC organizers! They better not pull that shit with Harris.

Christ R57, tell us you haven't read the thread without telling us you haven't read the thread.

Anyone who missed watching something live can easily find a video online.

R54, it was an obscure "news" website that I presume came with my phone. The headline is

"Democrats in Meltdown: DNC Violence Goes Viral, Sparking Unprecedented National Scandal"

Of course it's bullshit. If I post the link you'd have to have the shitty app to read.

Yes, we CAN find Biden if we look for him on social, but why? Why, for example, was it so important to have Kathy fucking Yokel on at 8:30?

Yeah, I thought Biden wasn’t supposed to be up after 8? They must have let him sleep in.

No kidding. I gave up waiting for Joe so I went to bed. Why wasn’t he on in prime time? And why did they waste prime time oostlu nobodies who I guess the party owed a chance to be on tv. They should have been on at midnight.

I went down to Union Park yesterday to check out the state of the protests and video chatted with my brother because he was also curious. I followed them a few blocks and then headed up to Michigan Ave to see what if anything was happening downtown, protest-wise. Nothing there, and frankly, there weren't all that many protesters near the park/convention center. It was your standard fare. No violence, no property damage. They kicked down one portion of the convention center fencing, but the police shooed them off easily and without much fanfare. They ended up going home early last night. There seems to be even fewer protesters today.

[quote] I followed them a few blocks and then headed up to Michigan Ave to see what if anything was happening downtown, protest-wise. Nothing there, and frankly, there weren't all that many protesters near the park/convention center. It was your standard fare. No violence, no property damage.

The lame stream media needs SOMETHING to report to make Democrats look bad.

They really have nothing else.

And that's why they want Trump in office.

They NEED the drama, because that's what sells papers.

Democrats run things too smoothly, and we want everything to be good.

Republicans want chaos and disorder, and the media thrives on that.

DO NOT SUPPORT CORPORATE MEDIA!!!

They are toxic and evil, and a threat to Democracy!!!!

Not a single complaint or even an observation about this

[quote] The lame stream media needs SOMETHING to report to make Democrats look bad.

Since there weren't violent DNC protests, they're focused on how mean old Pelosi forced out Joe and how they hate each other now. Ancient hag Andrea Mitchell spent some time on that this morning.

There is so much goodwill and energy at this Democratic Convention, that it's driving the lamestream media BONKERS.

They're so desperate to report something negative, so they're grasping at straws.

They are so fucking LAME and WEIRD.

And I basically hate watch Andrea Mitchell. She makes me want to throw stuff at the tv, along with hacks Jake Sherman, Ashley Parker, and Peter Baker.

I know, it's a sickness.

R15 = JARGON, JARGON, JARGON

(Which means NOTHING in the end.)

So even Palestinian protestors have Limousine ethics?

i watched CSPAN as I assume many people did because the commentary on the networks and the cable news shows was underwhelming. No big press interviews needed because Kamala is explaining her policy through speeches. NYT cancelled by many readers for gaslighting Joe and begging for the Kamala honeymoon to be over. In short, they've made themselves irrelevant and we're responding accordingly.

Like I care what Katy Tur or Peter Baker thinks about anything.

Didn't an earlier thread complaining about NYT get shut down by Muriel? Are they a holy cow we are not supposed to harshly criticize here? Or, maybe they complained to Mediapolis? If only they put so much effort in their political journalism.