Humiliation for Putin as Over 100 Troops Raise White Flag on Russian Soil

GOOD!

Russians deserve to be humiliated like this.

Fuck them for their interference in our elections.

Now let them suffer.

President Xi must be intrigued.

I’m still very suspicious that this attack is a diversion meant to draw Russian troops from the main warzone. The Russians seem to agree because they are not shifting the main armoured divisions from the present positions in Ukraine.

But they are throwing garbage at the Ukrainians in Kursk O, and it’s getting shredded. These troops are massively equipped with drones and know how to use them. It’s a terrifying new dimension of warfare and the Ukrainians have become THE experts on it. They create a Zone of Death where every rifleman can be seen, AND targeted, for several miles from the location of Ukrainian units.

The dilemma for the Russians is excruciating. If they don’t pull real units out of Ukraine, the UAF can just continue to rampage at will deep inside Russia. If they DO pull units out, the suspicion is the REAL UAF thrust will attack toward Crimea. They’ve been degrading Crimea for months now and retaking that is a major goal of Zelenskyy.

Gave it up for Prigozhin, now giving it up for the Ukrainians.

Id say it's time for Poopin Putin to "retire".

[quote]the bunker was outfitted with a dining hall, armory, and bathhouse.

Bathhouse?!?! Now we're talkin'!

Electing Kamala President and obliterating Russia would be a WIN-WIN for 2024!

Who has lost it more, Putin or Trump?

[quote]n a prison basement in northeastern dozens of young Russian soldiers are being kept as prisoners of war. They were captured during recent fighting between Russia and Ukraine, and they are not seasoned veterans but young recruits. They were part of the Russian force that was unexpectedly thrust into combat following Ukrainians incursion into Russia's Kursk region.

[quote]Many of the captives are conscripts serving their mandatory one-year military service, and were not anticipated to see combat, according to Ziare. Their capture poses a significant challenge for the Kremlin and tests Ukraine’s ability to handle a large number of Russian POWs, who could be valuable in future negotiations.

[quote]President Vladimir Putin had assured that recruits would not be sent into combat. Despite this, some conscripts found themselves in Ukraine. Most recruits were stationed along Russia's western border, with the expectation that they would not face direct combat.

[quote]One captured soldier, Nikolai, 22, expressed frustration, stating: "We didn’t want to fight in any way." He described how recruits were promised they would not participate in hostilities.

[quote]Ukrainian officials allowed a small group of journalists, including Washington Post reporters, to visit the prison. During this visit, prisoners reported receiving good treatment and medical care, though some had sustained injuries before capture. Families of the captured soldiers have petitioned President Putin, accusing Chechen forces of abandoning these young recruits, some of whom had not completed their basic training.

Again, like Zelenskyy said, ‘’Russia now has the second best army. . . . . In Russia!”

I have an uneasy feeling about a dirty bomb as he panics.

What is the strategic advantage of invading Russia? Surely the Ukranian army can't hold the territory forever and surely Putin still has a more formidable arsenal?

I don't get what Ukraine is trying to achieve here because the conventional outcomes don't seem likely. But I am no military strategist and wish 'em all the luck in the world. Also, it's kind of hilarious, but I'm not sure Sun Tzu wrote about hilarity.

They have POWs as bargaining chips now. A dirty bomb on Russian soil?

Hunny, those Russian soldiers better not think they're gonna go home and Putin welcomes them with open arms. He'll lock their asses up for being traitors.

[quote] In a prison basement in northeastern dozens of young Russian soldiers are being kept as prisoners of war. They were captured during recent fighting between Russia and Ukraine, and they are not seasoned veterans but young recruits. They were part of the Russian force that was unexpectedly thrust into combat following Ukrainians incursion into Russia's Kursk region.

[quote] One captured soldier, Nikolai, 22, expressed frustration, stating: "We didn’t want to fight in any way." He described how recruits were promised they would not participate in hostilities.

A basement full of twinks!!

Sounds heavenly.

I found Nikolai's video.

I saw the thumbnail of Nikolai in his undies R14, but that's it.

YouTube has apparently banned the video on the US, on copyrite grounds.

I hope they all have cellphones. XVids will be poppin’ I a couple of weeks.

[quote]The Telegram channel for [bold]I Want to Live,[/bold]a hotline for Russian soldiers who want to surrender run by the Main Directorate of Intelligence of Ukraine, which also posted the video, added multiple pictures of “the largest one-time ‘catch’ since the beginning of the full-scale invasion.”

Hahaha, what Russian kween dreamed that one up?☺️☺️☺️😂😂🤣

Is this a prison camp, or a TEENAGE BROTHEL??!!

R18 reading skills? Surely you meant to write which UKRAINIAN kween.

Can Ukraine capture St. Petersburg next?

If Ukraine manages to capture Kursk, the city, that would be an incredible blow to the already dwindling morale of the Russians.

I am in awe of this turnaround, it’s been incredibly well-executed and I do expect the Ukrainians to eventually take back Crimea.

Wonderful that the war is now brought onto Russian soil. Make them tremble with fear!

Looks like the Ukrainian incursion caught Putin flatfooted. You know it's got to be tough for Ol' Vlad these days. Always having to watch his step in fear of assassination by window, being concerned someone in his inner-circle will turn on him and now there's foreigners on Russian soil for the first time since WWII. He's probably throwing Trump-level tantrums by now.

R10, the attack on Russia shows Putin that he’s still surrounded by numbskulls who don’t know anything and that Ukraine now has increased firepower from its allies. That makes it likelier that Putin will understand the war can’t be won.

Allegedly, there were fields along the Russian border that had signs with landmine warnings—except there were no landmines. It was just. . . signs. Potemkin landmines, as it were.

[quote] the attack on Russia shows Putin that he’s still surrounded by numbskulls who don’t know anything and that Ukraine now has increased firepower from its allies. That makes it likelier that Putin will understand the war can’t be won.

The Peter Principle as applied to terrified yes-men.

End of the world in 3…2…1…

I know useful idiot who can help.

Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦 💙 💛

[Quote] Can Ukraine capture St. Petersburg next?

Stay out of my state, you dirty ukuleles! And that goes double for Tampa!

Big Daddy China Signals Lack of Confidence in Russia

"Chinese banks halt payments from Russian importers amid sanctions concerns

Putin has holed up in Chechnya, I bet.

Many Russian soldiers would be happy to be captured

"A visibly aged Putin kissing the Quran and handed over by Kadyrov is one of the latest signs of how much the Russian leader has declined in influence. And I'm not even pointing out that this so-called "crusader of christianity" made knee fall in front of Muslim warlord. That is pure politics. What I mean is that Kadyrov and Putin understand the situation that if one of them falls, the other one follows, instantaneously.

Putin has virtually no friends in Russia. He has only those he can bribe or strong-arm him to follow. Kadyrov is one of few perhaps even the only one, where he does not need to do that, because Kadyrov himself will find himself 6 feet under or naked upside down from the next pole when Putin falls. This unholy alliance is the last of Putin's trump card in domestic policy. Not the Russian army, not even the FSB, but a Chechnyan whose father fought against the Russian army and then betrayed his homeland to switch sides to Russia.

Putin is dying a slow death, which is well-reflected by his physical appearance. One year ago, Prigozhin betrayed him and staged an uprising which was only averted, because Prigozhin was a fool. The next one, who will challenge Putin, won't be that naive. The list of potential candidates to betray Putin is getting larger day by day and you can see from the Russian regime commentators' voices which are getting shakier by the day. They can feel that the wind is changing not in their favor. At one point the whole system Putin will capsize.

This and only this was the reason for Putin to travel to Chechnya. He is putting all his remaining eggs in this last basket. He cannot comment on Kursk because the war is going bad. Nothing what happens in Pokrovsk, Toretsk or anywhere else, where Russian meat waves are slowly but certainly bleeding the Russian army to death, can outbalance this embarrassment, and worst for them is that everyone in Russia can see this."

"Another major defeat for Putin and Russia:

The strategic Russian pipeline project "Power of Siberia 2" has been effectively stopped, indefinitely. The government Mongolia announced their strategic economic plans for the years 2024-2028, in which "Power of Siberia 2" has been completely left out. Mongolia is the vital transit country for this pipeline project. Therefore, it is unlikely that this Russian pipeline project will be finished any time soon, if ever.

This news is entirely suppressed in Russia and with good reason. Power of Siberia 2, which was supposed to connect the Jamal gas fields with China, was Putin's attempt to balance out the losses Russia sustained from the destruction of Nordstream 1 and 2, as well as the major losses in gas revenues in Europe. It is making an already difficult situation for Gazprom worse. According to Harvard-Experten Craig Kennedy Gazprom is already $82 billion in debts.

News like this are very good indicators how Russia's economy and political influence has deteriorated since the full-scale war against Ukraine 2.5 years ago."

Putin is the Devil we know.

Who's to say that the person who replaces him, won't be 10 times worse?

R33, China has to know that the other Russian shoe is about to fall. I wonder at what point they let go of this albatross around their neck and try to capitalize on the Russian Bear's weakness?

r35 's bottle of vodka is always half empty

R34, that is hilarious! You know it's bad when Mongolia is openly giving Putin the cold shoulder! And that is a country which historically prefers Russia to China.

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"The creator of Telegram, Pavel Durov, was arrested at Le Bourget airport, where he arrived from Azerbaijan. This was reported by the French news channel LCI.

Durov was shown a search warrant issued by the OFMIN (small office) of the national department of judicial police of France on the basis of a preliminary investigation.

According to the French TV channel TF1, the warrant against the founder of Telegram was issued because Durov did not cooperate with the French security forces, which makes him an accomplice to drug trafficking and other serious crimes.

Durov was in Baku at the same time as Putin, but there was no information about their meeting.

Durov is also to be questioned due to suspicions of wiretapping Macron's manager through the secure network Telegram.

Amid news of the arrest of Pavel Durov in France, shares of the TON cryptocurrency used in Telegram began to fall sharply.

Pavel Durov faces up to 20 years in prison. He will soon appear in court as a French citizen."

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"After Telegram founder Pavel Durov was arrested, Russian social media share the following thoughts, rumors and panic moods:

◾️Allegedly, several days ago Durov asked for a meeting with Putin in Baku and was refused.

◾️Telegram is the main information network, communications tool and Russian means of influencing the world. Telegram is the number one messenger app in Ukraine. It has 300 million users in India and is leading in South and Latin America. Russia's influence on the world might be lost.

◾️Durov's arrest might be similar in impact to the British breaking the Enigma code during WW2: Telegram is the only messenger of the Russian army. All their messages might get into the hands of the West.

◾️Despite Russia's claims that it would quickly create a new messenger, that is impossible. Those who say that are either idiots or simply want to steal money.

◾️Durov is blamed for not cooperating with the French police in drug trafficking, pedophilia and other serious crimes. Within the next few months, many Russian citizens can be blamed for the same crimes after getting access to encrypted messages.

◾️Russia's spy network in Europe may be exposed."

Good.

[quote]Russia's spy network in Europe may be exposed

Pics please.

I love it.

Both Putin AND Trump are getting backed into a corner, like trapped rats!

Great. The US has spent 175 billion dollars to capture 100 Russians.

More on Durov's arrest & Telegram:

"All you need to know about Pavel Durov & .@telegram is that accused child rapist, child trafficker & criminal gang leader Andrew .@Cobratate is mad about Durov being arrested in France on some of the same charges.

Tate charges incels $4500/month to be in his private Telegram room."

Bibi is also getting the business, R43. 1/2

"Netanyahu had a very unpleasant and somewhat shocking meeting with the hostage families. It was recorded and leaked to the press. Sara Netanyahu also joined the fray with some controversial comments. Netanyahu and wife did not win any points for this. Here are the exchanges that made headlines in Israel.

Released Hostage: "We went through difficult things. I was beaten. I was tortured. More cruelty than we experienced is impossible in my opinion, Enough. I can't stand that he is suffering there. I can't stand that the women are suffering."

Son of a hostage: Do you understand that there are girls being raped now? Because Biden understands that."

Netanyahu: "Hearing your stories is shocking. I went through a captivity training session. I was beaten, but it didn't affect me much, because I knew it was a drill. So I get hit, it hurts, I knew it was a drill. That I am not really in danger and that adds to the suffering."

Hostage daughter: " You can be remembered as the one who led the country to a better place or as the one who wreaked havoc here. You are the prime minister and you are responsible for the abductees, not Hamas and not anyone else. You are supposed to reach a deal that will bring all the abductees.”

Netanyahu: "What’re you proposing that I do?” Netanyahu responded.

Hostage daughter:“I’m proposing that you sign a deal that will bring the hostages home. There’s a deal on the table!”

Netanyahu: "What deal? Which deal? Whoever told you that there was a [hostage-ceasefire] deal on the table and that we didn’t take it for this reason or that reason, for personal reasons, it’s just a lie.”

"There are many things we want and they’re hard to get. For example, I’d like to walk to Italy on foot in a straight line… so if that’s what we need to do, it means drying up the ocean, so ‘let’s dry up the ocean, what’s the problem?’"

Released hostage: "I didn't get an apology from you."

Another released hostage: "And you didn't take the blame."

Sara Netanyahu: "There is also the army."

Released hostage:" Who is the leader? He runs the army. He is responsible."

Sara Netanyahu: "They don't tell him anything. How is he supposed to know?"

She then complained about being demonized by the media for being Netanyahu's wife: “I was Sara Ben Arzi, and no one told lies about me. I lived a normal life."

Released hostage: “I also lived a normal life until I was kidnapped with my partner.”

The amazing ability of the Netanyahu's to make the suffering of the hostages about themselves and deny that there is a deal on the table is really staggering. No wonder the trust between the hostage families and the Prime Minister is at such a low ebb."

Source: Channel 12

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"Links to the audio recording"

Hahaha at R46!

I love to see them squirm.

People are FED UP with the BULLSHIT!

Time to get rid of all dictators AND Trump!

When most people like r44 think of US spending to support Ukraine, they think the government is just sending big bags of money to Ukraine.

The vast majority of that money is spent in US factories to manufacture the supplies that helps keeps Ukraine democratic. Those US factory jobs employ a lot of US citizens that spend money in the US and pay a lot back into US taxes

R44 is a dolt. he should stick with talking about bad music.

They should use the Russian prisoners and start a Chaturbate channel to help fund the war effort. Russian guys can’t fight but they know how to twerk on the ‘bate!

This Pavel Durov guy sounds like a very weird guy.

Can someone teach me how to use Telegram to find private groups where I can message young, horny, tight bodied, legal age curious guys who are willing to have sex with older men?

R53 sure send me $10,000, your address and social security number.

China should take the opportunity to invade southeastern Russia and claim back its old territory

Standby for news of the troops' families disappearing.

Putin has always had Small Man Syndrome.

[quote]China should take the opportunity to invade southeastern Russia and claim back its old territory

The Chinese government has never been 'all in' on Russia's war in Ukraine. I could totally see them patiently waiting for the right moment when Putin appears weak and unable to sustain a war on two fronts to act. Plus, he practically gave them a playbook on how to do it. Accuse the Russian government of persecuting certain groups in areas near China or claim neo-Nazis have taken over to launch a "special military operation" to "liberate" those areas from tyranny. Then hold fake elections that show overwhelming support for annexation by China, which would be condemned internationally and wouldn't be deterred by sanctions or isolation.

China already has Putin by his tiny set of nads.

"Putin and Xi no longer have a partnership of equals"

I don't like either Russia OR China, so they can both fuck off.

Wow! I've been so focused on our own politics that I didn't really fully appreciate this evolving situation. Such happy news.

I hope to see Vlad's head on a spike.

Russia is fucked with the Arrest of Telegram owner of Durov. Not only is During for allowing his media for allowing Child Sex Trafficked and Drug Traffickers he has sincerely endangered Russian Intelligence..The Russian military exclusively uses Telegram communication services as well as government official.

The significance to the Russians is such that they have demanded "Consular communication".with Durov even though he gave up his Russian Citizenship at the age of 14.

I get that Durov was arrested and being held, is he then forced to turn over all of Telegram’s messages?

I don’t see how this is such a big deal, unless he’s walking around with the encryption key in his pocket and France just confiscated and put it in an email blast to God and everybody.

R63, I assume most billionaires don't want to be imprisoned on child pornography charges, even if they are being held in France. Since Telegram is his company, and is located in the U.A.E., not Russia, he has something to negotiate with.

incoming Telegram! FUCK YOU

If Putin is ever ousted from power, just some other strongman will replace him. If the small elite that benefits from him staying in power (these include heads of Security Services FSB, the Defense Ministry, Intelligence) feel the pinch economically or if their status is threatened, he'll be removed. It might mean an end to the war with a negotiated settlement, but very little will change in Russia.

The deaths of Russian soldier over the last 2 1/2 years is somewhere near 100,000. I'm sure many those who surrendered don't want to be just among of the under counted statistics by Russia.

Here is a fascinating perspective on Putin's current predicament (all of his own creation).

Thanks for sharing that video, R68

Yes, I was intrigued by her perspective and intel, R68 - thanks

Thank goodness for Uncle Joe getting the CHIPS Act passed to protect the US and Taiwan.

Putin in circling the drain.

Good!

How much damage can be done falling out of a prison window one story up?

Putin has Stalin eyes.

Russian soldier describes complete chaos in the Kursk area. The Russian army can't defend jack shit. Really fascinating account. This guy even thinks that a lot of soldiers shouldn't be armed because they're too unstable.

R66 but would nu-tyrant be eager to invade another country any time soon?

blah, blah blah.

Those Iranian missiles are just as shitty as their drones.

Why not stop with the bullshit, Pootz, and retire somewhere nice?