The Gates - CBS - January 2025

Fake news, OP. We all know this is a bio series about Bill & Melinda Gates!

Lol you had me op

Its actually true r2.

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OP is Jamey Giddens, trying to get the bacon grease off his tablet screen

R2 here. My jaw has dropped. Then again white people soaps tried to freeze an entire city with a cubic zirconium diamond, had psychiatrists get possessed by the devil and had a leading character with twelve distinct personalities. I might give this soap a try. They better have a baby switch within the first three months though. I just love me a baby switch!

R7, um the Cassadines tried to freeze the whole WORLD! And Viki had SIX alters, not 12! Nice try!

Can we name Viki's six alters? Niki, Jean Randolph, Princess, Tommy, Victor... who did I miss or get wrong?

Tori is the other one r9

I was hoping for a reality show about Bill.

Thanks r10

Princess was always whimpering. I thought she was a dog.

It will probably turn out that the adopted kids of the gay couple were adopted illegally.

The real parents of the adopted children will obviously be somewhere in town. And they will likely come back to claim the children.

Yet don't these stories sound more interesting than Lily, Devon, Nate, et. al. sitting around the old Dark Horse offices talking about business deals and what "Neil would have wanted."

I really want this to work for Michele. Fingers crossed.

I'm hoping the cast is diverse.

I wonder if this will still happen...CBS and Paramount are cutting ever cost corner they can.

Have they cast the trans, the Asian, and the hooker with the heart of gold yet?

R20. TALBOT HUDDLESTON!!!

Okay, I cackled at that R21

Elizabeth, Stacy, Courtney, Jillian and Diane? How relatable.

Do they need a nun with a high Q rating?

Why do they have all these black bitches with white bitches' names?

Throw in a 1980 Tercel to sweeten the deal and I'm there.

Mama?

Oh Lord...Clara?!

It will have gay characters! It's been confirmed.

I hope they find gay actors to play the gay characters. I'm not averse to straight actors playing gay roles, but with soaps there's (hopefully) a longer-term attachment to the characters that develops, so seeing gays playing gay becomes more meaningful. e.g. On Days it was entertaining seeing out actors, Greg Rikkart and Peter Porte, in a relationship as "Leo & Dmitri."

I don’t know. They’ve already changed the show’s name to Beyond The Gates and they will have 8 Executive Producers!!! 8. Sounds like a mess behind the scenes already and with 8 EP’s, there can’t be 1 vision because all 8 ep’s will want to justify their salary. I give the show a year, tops.

First cast members announced.

Last week, CBS announced that "Beyond the Gates" is assembling its debut cast in preparation for its early next year launch on CBS Daytime.

Notably, seasoned daytime stars Tamara Tunie (formerly Jessica Griffin on "As the World Turns"), Karla Mosley (formerly Christina Moore Boudreau on "Guiding Light" and Maya Avant Forrester on "Bold and Beautiful"), and Daphne Duplaix (formerly Valerie Davis on "Passions" and Rachel Gannon on "One Life to Live") have joined the cast as members of the influential Dupree family.

Sigh, I miss Maya and Rick. But, I digress...

I love Tamara Tunie—-would want to be her morgue patient though

She will need time off to play Kamala on the Max movie about the 2024 election…which is surely on the table as we speak.

Tunie already played Kamala in a play.

There you go…

I have been denied a role on this theatrical enterprise.

I am insulted!

I won't be tuning in...

R40 😆 but is anyone planning to tune in?

Aside from Luis, they're bringing another Latino character, Tomas "Tom" Hernandez, described as Latinx, sure of himself, handsome and an attorney in his 20s.

Also Mike, Caucasian male in his 50s. Joseph's best friend, best man at his wedding and a prominent attorney in his own right. Mike will have to deal with a scandal pertaining to sexual impropriety in tbe workplace.

R19 Since the NAACP and P&G are involved this will probably be left alone.

If they are willing to create a new soap, it is not crazy for the canceled soaps to come back. I mean if they brought back "murphy brown" and other shows it is possible to see guiding light, as the world turns, etc. back. I would have told you were crazy last year that a broadcast network would create a daily daytime soap.

I think they realized even though soaps are expensive they get more viewers and they get more consistent viewership too. People will skip an episode of a talk show or game show-- but there is more pressure to watch a daytime soap everyday even if you don't like the current storylines as you never know when things get better. And because there are multiple storylines and characters you will generally have at least one storyline to look forward to. I also think they realize that although many people DVR shows, some people still watch live making lead-ins still important.

A soap about a gated community is boring. I wish they would have created a show centered on crime/mystery like the edge of night or one centered on college. Given the popularity of true crime and cop procedurals-- it is a no brainer that a crime based soap would have more of a mainstream and cross over appeal. And a college based soap would appeal more to younger people. It is like soaps are obsessed with the lives of the rich although it has been done to death.

I'll give it a look when it starts.

But I think this is too much of a throwback to the 80s - rich people being dramatic. A daytime soap might have done something interesting if it were more like Eastenders.

r46

Yeah, I think the reason daytime soaps don't do well is because they tend to be conservative and stuck on stereotypical 80s soap dynamics. They seem to ghettoize themselves too. Desperate housewives was a soap opera about middle class people and was widely popular. I am not interested in a work class soap like Eastenders but can we move away the tycoon and high powered attorney crap.

This is a calculated (and formulaic) attempt to extend the heavily black audience of Y&R by an hour, even though many of them drop off during B&B. Otherwise, there would be no reason for P&G to be involved. Eyeballs on advertisements.

[quote] A soap about a gated community is boring.

Maybe that's why someone spoke up and said, "Maybe it should be called 'BEYOND the Gates.'"

This will fail. A million viewers, at best.

LET ME IN YOU BITCHES!

I luv The Blacks!

They can play my maids!

Let’s have a maid called Mamie!

r53 I never understood why YR was so popular with black people. All of their black characters had racist origins. Drucilla was an illiterate street person. Mamie was called mamie. I mean there are black people like that, but they dipped into all stereotypes.

R50 A million viewers would probably be enough to continue it as a streaming-only series on Paramount+. It's been guesstimated that Days on the 'Cock gets something under a million unique IPs.

R54 Two of the main characters in the Barber-Winters quad - Olivia and Neil - didn't have "racist origins." .. Olivia entered the canvas as a doctor and former sorority sister of Ashley Abbott's. Neil was an MBA from Stanford. And prior to that, neither police chief, Frank Lewis (the wonderful Brock Peters) nor his daughter, Amy Lewis (the memorable Stephanie E. Williams) have such origins. Tyrone and Jazz Jackson were like the precursors of Neil and Malcolm Winters. Admittedly, while the former was well-educated and high-achieving, the other was more urban and streetwise.

It makes me sad that people have forgotten about the short lived soap Generations which was a focused on a black family.

R57. I loved Generations.

"Generations" was mentioned by many mainstream media sources when they reported on the original announcement about "The Gates."

Will there be tap dancing, negro spirituals, and perhaps some jive talking by poor black woken with large asses?

R60 We can only hope!

I'll teach them to read, through rap!

R56 Stephanie E. Williams being replaced by Valarie Pettiford at Y&R, is this possibly a first in daytime, where there were only two actresses who've played the same role, on different soaps? Valarie was replaced by Stephanie as Sheila Price on OLTL in the 90's; Stephanie left Y&R when Valarie debut on OLTL.

R63 Hmm, maybe?

Open the damn gates!

CBS allowing them to hire walking lawsuit Vicky Rowell?

Maybe if she hadn't tried to SUE them.

Where are the mens?

We need some actor announcements.

Timothy J Stickney please!

Could we get Kyler Pettis (ex-Theo Carver on Days) for the gay househusband (Daniel) who's married to the ambitious politician (Marcus)?

R69, I second that idea! He’s sexy as hell.

I will watch on the strength of Tamara alone. She is wonderful.

We need some good BBC!

Looking to cast more than just BBC. .. Of course, there's a "Luis."

[quote] “Tom” is a Latinx male in his late 20s. Tomas “Tom” Hernandez is an extremely handsome and supremely confident attorney. This is a contract role.

[quote] “Mike” is described as a white male in his 50s. He’s a high-powered law partner of “Joseph’s” – and also the best man at his wedding. However, Mike has now been accused of sexual impropriety in the workplace. This is a non-contract role.

[quote] “Luis” is a Hispanic/Latino male in his late 20s to early 40s. Luis is described as sexy, attractive, and drop-dead gorgeous. He’s a personal trainer at the Fairmont Estates Country Club. Luis has an eye on one of the married women in the gated community. He is charming, likable, and (of course!) extremely fit. The character of Luis is non-contract.

Tom, Mike, Patrick, Sam, Elizabeth, Diane, Jillian, Stacy, Courtney, Marcus and Luis.

Sounds more like "Loving."

R74, minus Trucker and Dinah Lee...

Beyond The Gates is gonna FAIL! Soap operas aren’t the “in” thing. Duh.

I mean hopefully they’re planning some gaming tie ins with viewer avatars and augmented reality experiences to be cutting edge of sponsorship opportunities…

Never mind.

Probably better to just watch Saints and Sinners reruns.

If the gay husbands actually have a sex life that we see, and the "drop dead gorgeous" personal trainer is also into wealthy men, then I may watch.

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R80,

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Has Mickey Dwyer Dobbin commented yet? Are any wizened old men going to be on this show?

R82 There's supposed to be an old Black man named "Patrick" in his 60-70s described as follows:

[quote] Patrick is gentle, humble, and generous with his experience and knowledge. Patrick was in the thick of things during the 1960s civil rights movement. He marched alongside Dr. Martin Luther King. He kept on marching into an illustrious career as a Senator. Now retired, Patrick is living his best life as he enjoys his golden years in his beautiful home with his wife Betty. However, he’s also hiding a dangerous family secret!

I think the show sounds good. I wish it well, and will definitely watch.

Does anyone know if it has been given a least a year? I think that’s how Another World and the Agnes Nixon’s shows were able to make it.

R84 US Weekly reported that the soap had been given "a full-season order." Not sure exactly what that means since it's starting in January instead of September. The "seasons" for the other CBS soaps, Y&R and B&B, basically coincide with the Fall television season and run for a calendar year.

Real Andrews in as well

This will bomb.