Trump watches himself get shot ‘over and over’ and campaign staff fear he has PTSD

Still don't buy that he was even shot. There is no way that coward would be standing up saying "Fight!" after that happened unless it was planned.

Lol he sounds nuts!

^^^ I'm with you. r2. He's probably rewatching it over and over to see how wonderfully he did...just like in rehearsals

What would PTSD do to that man? Make him normal?

Descending even further into madness.

Descending into Howard Hughes territory

He's watching it to see if it looks too fake.

I’m picturing Fat Goldie rewinding Meryl getting strangled over and over.

Just a narcisstic whore watching himself. Remember when he watched the the Jan 6 Capitol insurrection over and over and said "see what I can make them do?"

I am not moved to tears.

Poor soul. That man took a bullet protecting the country he loves.

That blood doesn’t even look real. It was so completely staged, it’s the only thing that makes any sense! The entire incident was absolutely insane. Believe your own eyes!

I'm ready for my close up, Mister DeMille.....

The bandage thing. I still have questions. All of sudden one day it came off and it was healed. I've seen 78 yr olds who don't heal super fast. Wouldn't even a graze leave a little red mark for a few weeks after it's healed? Pete Souza published the photo where it looks totally fine 12 days after the attempt. Never mind the fact that an AK-47 can usually hit more than one or two people in a crowd in general.

Oh man, this needs to be tactically weaponized…

Too traumatized to serve.

He’s always wanted to be a star, first and foremost, and that moment is the zenith of his Presidental story arc. He sees himself as the protagonist in a tv show about his life and the showman knows that those seven seconds were the pinnacle of the 80 year-long drama that is The Life and Times of Donald John Trump.

He has invited the press to his New Jersey golf club tomorrow for another news conference.

How the Harris Campaign Struggles with Trump's Assassination Attempt.

“I hate shithole countries, but many people say they have great political theater!”

I came so close that day.

I said on here the day after that the damage from the shooting would really start to tell over time. Trump is old and a narcissist, so coming that close to annihilation is a real brain-buster for him.

You guys who think it was planned are sick. People died. And why would they trust a 20 year old loner to shoot that close to Trump’s head? Makes absolutely no sense.

Psychopaths do not suffer from PTSD, he's loving the drama and his "fight fight fight".

[quote]Trump watches himself get shot ‘over and over’

I am totally unsurprised by this revelation. I'm sure he uses a pair of tweezers at the same time to masturbate.

He's the only person in the world who cares he got shot

Agree with R1. He wasn’t shot. Put it all together . The graze on his ears— it’s like an ear piercing gone wrong . The utter lack of visceral reaction by people sitting inches from him. His perked up semi cognitive response after being shot .

And was that allegedly an assault rifle ????

R22 Maybe they weren't too concerned with the outcome. If it was planned it's not necessary for Trump to have been in on it.

[quote]He has invited the press to his New Jersey golf club tomorrow for another news conference.

These press conferences with their softball questions supplant the need to by advertising time. Free ads.

I’m surprised he’s having it at Bedminster. The reason he called the last one at the last minute in Florida was so that actual journalists didn’t have time to get down there from DC or NY.

He still can’t believe how special he is to so many deplorable people-I can’t either.

[quote]“he’s been through a lot.”

HE'S been through a lot?!

WHAT ABOUT HIS HEARING AFTER HE WAS SHOT? WOULDN’T IT BE AFFECTED?

It was a “graze” by bullet shrapnel on some of the thinnest skin on top of cartilage. I used to use a razor to shave the hair on my ears but stopped when I bled from nicking the skin. I would bleed like a stuck pig, but would heal completely just like this without leaving a mark.

Another vote for NOT SHOT.

Fake News!

Hillary watches the video "over and over" again, too.

That assassination attempt is so last month.

If it were staged, you just KNOW someone is going to squeal eventually.

He thought that after the shooting incident, he’d be held up as some wonderful hero and survivor by everyone and ride that to a landslide over Biden. Unfortunately for him, his party’s stance about gun violence being “oh well, thoughts and prayers” and move on, did him no favors. Then, enter Harris then Walz—he’s fucked and he knows it.

I'd re-watch it, too, if they hit something more vital.

I should add at r37: I don't think it was staged. And I dislike conspiracy theories. They are not a good look, no matter who holds them.

From my perspective, the biggest piece of evidence that it was NOT staged is that Trump was doing well in the polls prior to Biden's withdrawal. It seems odd that he would stage something so dramatic (and risky) when he lacked motivation. A lot of people would have been in on it. Occam's razor and all that.

Had this happened, I don't know, last week, I could see the argument that his desperation at falling in the polls would be adequate impetus for him to pull this off, but even then it's a little far-fetched.

He was hoping to create a civil war with his "fight" bullshit but it fizzled on him

Enough with the conspiracy theory garbage. Just leave it out.

It wasn't fake or planned but it was rehearsed. Years ago there was a noise that scared him and he ducked behind the podium and look terrified. Hillary had a similar moment with a scare and she stood there like a boss. TSF looked weak and he never forgot it and rehearsed what to do if it happened again.

It wasn’t staged.. Two people were killed. He was ahead in the polls AND he’s a scaredy cat on top of it. There is no way he would risk anything with real bullets anround him and get two people killed.

America has gotten to a real cynical place if it thinks that a shooting that killed two people was staged JUST to get a bump in the polls. I do think an association attempted was planned on Trump, a not just by Crooks. Some power wanted him dead and it failed.

I think THAT’S what’s fucking with Trump now, that someone literally wanted him dead and they almost succeeded. He is definitely spiraling after almost being killed & losing in the polls.

The people who don’t think he was shot are the same people who don’t think September 11 was real.

I also suspect many of the people who don’t think he was shot were the hardcore Bidenists - those people didn’t believe Biden was unsuitable for running again, no matter what they saw on television, no matter how many polls said he was going to lose.

Basically, Blue MAGA.

As if that wasn't all planned. Puhleeze.

r44 "There is no way he would risk anything with real bullets around him"

Exactly

Association = assassination attempt

remember average iq is low and many people are unable to evaluate information.

Another day, another lie. He needed an excuse to provide cover for his slurred speech and other recent weaknesses that are getting too much attention. So, now he’s trying for sympathy.

To me, the shooting looked like a Mark Burnett Production. Find a disgruntled, armed kid on 4-chan, tell him he’ll go down in history (Sondheim’s “Assasins,” anyone?) for helping Trump’s campaign by shooting near him in the crowd to allow the photo op, and now, provide sympathy cover for Trump. A double “win” for Trump!

Due to his severe psychological damage, tbere’s nothing I would put past Trump. He's the world's greatest conman: he became president of the US. Ponzi and Madoff were amateurs compared with Trump. The good thing is that Kamala’s got his number, and unlike polite Joe, she’s calling him out on his endless mendacity.

Exactly, R46.

Totally staged for sympathy and hopefully a boost in the polls.

Instead, Biden knocked him out of the news the following week, and everyone stopped caring about the fake shooting.

Talk about a LOSER!

You know what’s really destroying him is that he nailed it, the bloody hero photo shot, the survivor story… yet nobody gives a shit anymore and now he’s losing to Kamala.

[quote] To me, the shooting looked like a Mark Burnett Production

Nah, if it were a Mark Burnett production, the shooter would have been black, and the N-Word would have been hurled by Trump again.

We know how much Australian trash "Christian" Mark Burnett loves his racism and ethnic slurs.

Donald Trump might pull a lot of stunts. He incites violence but he’s far from it when it goes down, not in the middle of it.

BUT the combo of him almost getting killed and people not believing it is doing a number on his brain and his campaign. So keep up the good work.

R50 how do you explain the two very dead people?

r54 "almost getting killed"

wink, wink

How does anyone who believe it was staged explain the two very dead peoele? Two very dead people that could have easily been four or five. Five people were shot directly around Trump. Do you think he would have live bullets flying around him so close? Do you think he would have planned the deaths of five people just get a photo op when he was ahead already?

Makes no sense.

r45 " The people who don’t think he was shot are the same people who don’t think September 11 was real. "

100% incorrect

To be honest, a murdered Trump would have been absolutely horrible for America. He would have been lionized beyond believe, up there with JFK. The country would have been ripped in half for sure. He would be on Mt. Rushmore in ten years. It’s best to let him fizzle out just like he is now.

R53 I think Trump would not have allowed a black shooter for fear of actually being shot. No, they needed a white male Trump-lover who would do whatever he was asked to do to help Trump and would never turn around and kill Trump. That's the kind of extra care in setting up a scam that's gotten Trump to the White House.

So R60 Trump planned to kill five people or more at his rally?

Trump is no mastermind, his scams are as obvious as a 19th Freakshow Carnival barker. He literally tells you what he is going to do. There is no sleight of hand - he is heavy handed.

R55, there actually have been conspiracies in this country that have been proven true. The Gulf Of Tonkin incident, Piltdown Man, that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. I don't think it's a stretch to think the footage of the "shooting" is a bit sketchy. It was strange that his ear healed so quickly. And I honestly wouldn't put it past Trump to not care if his followers got shot.

However, I personally think it was not a conspiracy. But to act like Trump would even consider that other people might get shot is hilarious. Trump would not care.

R14 he didn't use an AK47. He used an AR15 which has a slower rate of fire than the AK.

The low IQ and low information literacy rampant in society is demonstrated in this thread filled with conspiracy nuts.

Funny I don’t believe this was staged BUT I do think 9/11 was. I’ll continue thinking that until someone tells me why building 7, two blocks away collapsed to the ground while Century 21, a glass building 50 feet across from the towers, remained unscathed. THAT doesn’t make sense. Make it make sense. ..

zzzzz r65

R64 I love you!

[quote] The low IQ and low information literacy rampant in society is demonstrated in this thread filled with conspiracy nuts.

The only low information, low IQ conspiracy nut is DONALD J. TRUMP.

Obama was born in Kenya, Joe Biden is really dead, and Kamala Harris' crowds are fake.

Look up "Conspiracy Nut" in the dictionary, and you'll see a photo of DONALD J. TRUMP and his MAGAT followers.

So you can just shut the fuck up, R64.

Go eat another bowl of Borscht.

[quote]The Gulf Of Tonkin incident, Piltdown Man, that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction

Yes to pull us into a war., not to get a bump in polls. Trump has zero government resources to pull off and cover up the murder of five people. And there is NO WAY he’s put himself at the center of live billets flying around. NO WAY

chaos happens, you stupid conspiracy-pushing cunts.

Trump watches himself get shot ‘over and over’ and campaign staff fear he has DEMENTIA.

There, I fixed it for them.

R69 “ And there is NO WAY he’s put himself at the center of live billets flying around. NO WAY”

Correct, and he didn’t.

Building 7 was detonated. Simultaneous failure of all columns. Not the fire.

R42 Enough with hall monitors and people who think they have a say. ENOUGH!

Get over yourself. You’re not in charge.

Yes Trump is low IQ and low information. However, there was no secretly organised shooting resulting in injuries and deaths.

At this point it's just elder abuse to keep propping up trump in front of a camera.

[quote] Maybe they weren't too concerned with the outcome. If it was planned it's not necessary for Trump to have been in on it.

"What if he shot me in the face?"

"That's a risk we were willing to take."

R72 ah, yes he did. Even if conspiracy theorist are right, there were people hit with bullets around him, he was in the line of fire between the shooter and the people shot. For there to be a conspiracy he would have to had knowingly put himself in the line of fire of the shooter.

I'm betting Melania has been watching the video 'over and over' wondering how her hired assassin could've possibly missed. This must be driving her crazy.

Some humans seem to think a big event necessarily MUST have a BIG CAUSE.

And yet, the whole of human history teaches us that it's mundane fallible human inaction and/or action that can be the circumstance that results in a notorious event.

I get it. It's banal. It doesn't excite. It's just another of the ho-hum billions of instances that will, in actuality, happen today where those old boring foibles- lack of communication and complacency, result in a bad, or good, thing.

You've got a bullied introvert with a gun, a local police force and Secret Service who weren't on the same page and an unguarded location where the shooter was.

That's it. I know, Conspiracy Theorists, that doesn't tickle your need to look down on those of us who "don't know what you know".

But you expect us to believe the biggest, most ignorant coward on Earth has the guts and savvy to pull-off a fake assassination attempt.

Hell, Trump couldn't even pull-off scratching his watch or winding his ass.

"So, how was your day?"

"O.k. I did get sho--"

"That's nice. Remember, I'm meeting the pool boy at the Ritz Carlton, we going over autumn chlorine tactics, see you when I see you. And didn't get that blood on my new Eames!

Pussy!

This thread was completely hijacked from the very first reply, by trolls trying to re-litigate the shooting and whether it was real. The other threads on that topic were closed immediately after the FBI declared Trump was struck by a bullet or a bullet fragment.

It's not that these trolls actually believe what they're spouting; they're just posting it to wreck the thread.

[quote] there actually have been conspiracies in this country that have been proven true. The Gulf Of Tonkin incident, Piltdown Man, that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction

The Piltdown Man hoax was perpetrated in England, not the US.

He was not hit with an actual bullet. He was hit with bullet shrapnel or glass fragments.

'But you expect us to believe the biggest, most ignorant coward on Earth has the guts and savvy to pull-off a fake assassination attempt."

But he did organize and orchestrate 1/6/21, which just showed how desperate he was to stay in power. The fake assassination shows how desperate he is to keep his name on the front page. Trump is a malignant narcissist and publicity whore extraordinaire.

He’s studying it to do it better the next time

Sure he has PTSD. Suuuure he does.

They're just trying to make him look sympathetic. And if he is watching it over and over, it's because he's admiring himself.

How did he fall out of his heels?

You wonder how so many people can believe Joe Biden somehow stole 8 million invisible votes from Trump in 2020… then you read similar dumbass conspiracy theory comments right here on Datalounge.

Idiocy abounds.

r12, the blood looks the color of a person who is on blood thinners- for some reason, the color of it gets more orange and the texture more watery.

What r8 said.

And that even in the fact that the Trump campaign immediately filed for injunctions in many, many courts after the election and those courts basically said, after evaluating the "evidence", that they had no evidence.

And speaking of January 6th, I actually believe the reports that Trump did ask his henchman driver to take him to the Capitol that day, but with every syllable, he knew they'd refuse his order.

The old Con-Man already was creating his smoke and mirrors "tough guy" narrative.

He'd have shit a brick if his driver and the Secret Service had said, "Ok, Sir."

ooops, I meant what r90 said in my post at r92.

Although r8 is on to something, too.

R86 Trump doesn’t need to get shot at to stay on the front page of every newspaper. He doesn’t have to work that hard to stay in the news. Media either loved him or loved to hate him - either way he generates money.

R86 Trump doesn’t need to get shot at to stay on the front page of every newspaper. He doesn’t have to work that hard to stay in the news. Media either loved him or loved to hate him - either way he generates money.

R88 PTSD doesn’t equal sympathy. It equals unfit to serve. I don’t its a narrative his campaign would be purposely trying to generate.

[Quote] A campaign official confirmed that the shooting continues to weigh on Trump, with an official adding: “he’s been through a lot.”

He’s done things that directly killed people, and I don’t mean as president, I mean as a man. Both Capitol police and Trumpkins died on 1/6 and he watched it with delight on tv as it happened, doing nothing, hoping his mob was putting him in power by force.

But now that someone attempted to strike back at him. Suddenly he’s gripped by the frailty of existence. Typical narcissist.

Well, what can you say? He fell victim to a threat that every American faces every day and the country refuses to address. Welcome to the America.

The good news is in a campaign where we need him as crazy as possible, this will only get worse, and for Democrats, that means things can only get better.

I don't know... the guy's a jerk... whatever.

He didn’t get hit by a bullet. Such drama. Fucking fraud.

Oh, also, he's in my thoughts and prayers. (Which in content might be different than it sounds.)

R96, if his countless rallies where he couldn't pronounce words and went off on unhinged tangents don't equal unfit to serve to the press or his braindead followers, PTSD sure isn't going to do the trick. Of course they're trying to drum up the sympathy that didn't last as long as he wanted it to last month because Biden/Harris took over the news cycle since then and she's ahead in lots of polls now.

There is no effing way this was planned by Dump. Just no way on this planet. He is a chicken shit and would never, ever risk his skin for this. There are plenty of ways to garner sympathy without risking someone shooting at you. And the poster upthread is right, he’s 78 and most people at 78 are on blood thinners. The bullet/shrapnel didn’t do any damage but he bled because he’s in blood thinners.

There is another angle—that others wanted him dead and this was planned by them. But I don’t believe this either. There are plenty of ways to eliminate someone without resorting to having to trust a 20 year old to do the job.

I really don't go for conspiracy theories normally. I can work with assumed reality and say he was shot in polite company but something about the whole thing doesn't feel right.

The 20 year old loner was in a BlackRock ad and a classic school shooter type. He could have been easily manipulated by a group of FBI types into thinking he'd be stopped or was a backup sniper. There's no video of him firing. Are we certain from the footage he was alone up there and the bullet caught on camera didn't come from a similar location? In plots, not everyone needs to know all the pieces. Why does the crowd barely react? Do I think Trump was willing to sacrifice a couple of his supporters for the cause? Yes! Do I think BlackRock would off a civilian or two to put Trump in the White House? Yes! Someone said he can nothing to gain. It was the perfect convention boost! It was a shortcut to the idea of unity and the fantasy that we'd all gather around him and he'd glide to victory. He's been painting himself as a martyr! They way they let him stop for the camera is nuts. We've been told it was a failure of protocol but compare the urgency of the Reagan attempt footage. This clip is slowed down.

R2, posting from 2016

JFC, It's not PTSD, it's narcissism, he's not Reagan he's Gloria Swanson. He's compulsively re-watching the best performance of his life. Didn't you see the ratings? He was on the front page of every newspaper in the world. It's the photo of a generation, it will be memorialized on his 90 foot Obelisk/Parthenon crypt. Let's watch it again. Look at that fist, those are not the small hands of a short -fingered vulgarian, I'll tell you that much.

Not everyone needs to know everything. Trump's job was hit the blood capsule then look defiant. A true expert marksman gets a bullet or two near Trump so it looks like he might have been in danger. Elon contributed by being at the ready to "fully endorse" Trump right afterwards on X. Trump immediately pivots to unity.

PoisonedDragon - do you really think professional trolls bother with Datalounge thread destruction? I mean, I agree with you that it's hard to believe there are this number of asshat conspiracy nuts among DLers, but it seems that there are.

I think he was injured by shrapnel or perhaps a SS Officer inadvertently injured him while attempting to cover him, which obviously wasn’t done very well.

A straight shot would have blown his head off, or at the very least, his entire ear.

I’m genuinely grateful he survived, & even sadder that a family lost their husband/father.

I profoundly dislike this Trump, but I don’t wish him an assassination, or grave harm.

I believe in our country, & I believe we will not allow him to get another term in our WH.

It’s imperative that we vote. It’s the only way to hold on to democracy.

I understand that too R108. I didn't want him shot. It's bad for the country and democracy. Maybe I'm in disbelief! Trump was shot!

I'm not even saying Elon was "in on it". There was supposed to be an exciting VP pick announcement. Elon wanted to endorse publicly and there could have been a discussion about timing.

There’s something not right about it r103, but it isn’t because Dump was in on the planning. He actually hasn’t said much at all afterward. I thought he’d be shoving it in our face, but he hasn’t. He’s still going back to his insults of everyone else. Also, he looked way too disheveled afterward, I just don’t see him being like that unless he was genuinely shot at.

There’s very little news about the shooter either. So my feeling is it was real, and Dump knows it was real. Don’t forget—Dump’s paranoid too, and I’ll bet, in the absence of any real news about the shooter, he’s playing over in his mind that a very powerful entity wants him out of the way. And they failed. And might try again.

Great thread-I'm reluctant to even speculate about a worse outcome for this criminal for fear of being "Banned Again" on DL so I will enjoy the other posts.

If PTSD is the only thing campaign staff "fear he has", they're not listening to him.

He's letting other people remind us of the shooting. Maybe he is really shaken.

I hope his PTSD induced stroke is captured on video.

I am one of the supposed “conspiracy theorists”. I have never in my fucking life ascribed to any other conspiracy theory, not once!

I can completely understand why many refuse to accept it. It’s too disturbing. But have you read all the facts? There are SO many inexplicable things that make no sense from that day, I could list 25 things. No point in debating though. I stand by it. He’s a fucking THUG, and you are incredibly naive to think this isn’t straight out of the Stone/Bannon playbook. This is why these fuckers are so dangerous! Their lies make us turn on each other. Just like his ex-wife dying at the *perfect* moment for him, yes?

Now, if someone can show me what blood looks like from blood thinners, that would help me. But NO, I don’t buy that our SS knew he was there for possibly hours and that not ONE sniper spotted him and took him out?!? That defies all logic. And where is Trump’s wound???? Do you see it? The only other possible explanation which others have said is another entity orchestrated a hit (like Iran). But because of the age of the shooter, I have a harder time with this. Shooter 100% has Blackrock ties. SS 100% did not do their jobs repeatedly to the point that it defies all reason. The timing? Come on!!! GTFOH!

Again, believe your own eyes. Just because the FBI says it’s a bullet does *not* mean there’s no investigation, they said they are interviewing Trump too, so don’t be surprised if way down the road the government finally tells the People. I can actually hear Roger Stone, all methed up, “we need a fucking MARTYR to lock this up. Right before the convention.” Hilarious that you think they wouldn’t allow collateral damage.

R115, but they didn’t need this at the time. Remember, Joe was still in the race and Dump was ahead in most polls (still can’t believe it). Now, if you posit that the people in charge did this without Dump’s knowledge—maybe. But there is no way on the planet Dump ok’d this. No way. He was too relaxed and too himself. He would never allow a bullet to get that close to him. He’s a liar but he’s a terrible liar, he would have shown something. Not to say he was an “innocent,” but this is the only scenario I can see where the campaign thought this up.

Btw, the way Dump bled is exactly how someone on blood thinners is. Most elderly take at least a baby aspirin to prevent clots/strokes. My mom was on regular blood thinners for awhile and now baby aspirin and that’s how she bleeds if cut.

He cognitive decline is so pronounced that he views that video and actually believes he was shot.

R116, I definitely hear you. I live inside this election, I was on point with everything as it happened in real-time. I agree that Biden was losing and that Trump knew it. But I also think they wanted insurance to guarantee a tilt in his favor. Do you remember how on the day of the shooting, everyone thought “oh shit. It’s over now, he just locked it in because this happened.”? But you can’t see any motivation to achieve that guarantee? I think ruthless, cunning people try to manipulate to get what they want, and I think some of them will do whatever it takes. Look at fucking Tonya Harding as one example of a million, or OJ. People commit crimes and cover-ups to get a desired outcome all the time. A staged shooting? Lots of criminals are in our prisons for staging shootings and other crimes, so why not this man? It is completely rational in his world.

I will look up images of blood on thinners though lololol. I’ll keep an open mind.

I am looking at images now. I agree, his blood seems more similar to this (watery?), but then why no bruising at the injury if he was on thinners? Perfectly healed in a week+?

If there was a conspiracy I don't believe he knew about it. But some of those thugs in his inner circle, even Junior Mint, maybe...

[quote]He cognitive decline is so pronounced that he views that video and actually believes he was shot.

If he almost died in a helicopter with Willie Brown, in couple of years he’ll be telling this story as “the time my head was blown off.”

One thing is for sure, whatever is being said by the Trump campaign is most likely a LIE.

I’m convinced Trump has high functioning Aspergers or whatever it’s called nowadays.

lol, r121!

When elderly people experience a major event like this—a fall, an illness, a pandemic, etc.—it usually accelerates their decline.

[quote]It's not that these trolls actually believe what they're spouting; they're just posting it to wreck the thread.

You have more faith in the mental health of DLers than I do.

" I'm losing the advantage I got from the shooting. Time for another staged assassination attempt. This time, blame Harris."

[quote]It's not that these trolls actually believe what they're spouting; they're just posting it to wreck the thread.

Children would rather be praised than punished, but they'd rather be punished than ignored.

Bitch please r128. Grow the fuck up. He’s completely insane, he’s capable of literally anything at all. No risk is too big for this fucker.

I think R54 is on to something.

[quote] BUT the combo of him almost getting killed and people not believing it is doing a number on his brain and his campaign. So keep up the good work.

He help create and benefits from a climate in which anything and everything can be questioned and denied. Unfortunately, that knife cuts both ways and the result it he’s hasn’t been sanctified by fire in the minds of the nation because many believe it not to be real.

Work on your reading comprehension, r129, I was referring to the trolls.

Bitch please, indeed.

R131, then I sincerely apologize, please forgive me. This man has made me so angry and crazy. I told my husband two years ago that if those two ran again, I would not be in good shape. Well, here I am, not in good shape. But now? I’ve got real real hope for our country. Again, my apologies to you for having a hate-trigger reaction r131.

The two dead people? You think rump cares about “collateral damage “?

I'd watch it on an endless loop, just to see again and again how close that shooter came to ridding humanity of that vile, worthless motherfucker. Oh, well. C'est la vie.

[quote]He would have been lionized beyond believe, up there with JFK. The country would have been ripped in half for sure. He would be on Mt. Rushmore in ten years. It’s best to let him fizzle out just like he is now.

Ha, Ha, NO HE WOULD NOT. First of all, JFK had a 70% approval rating, loved by the majority of Americans. Secondly, JFK was in office. Assassination of a sitting president has global implications. Former presidents being taken out have no effect on the running the country. Third, even JFK never made it onto Mr. Rushmore.

He may or may not have PTSD, but he’s been crazy all along.

I said this right after Dump got shot, just wait for the PTSD. No one walks away from that happy as a clam without starting to question how easy they could have been dead. PTSD is something that sneaks up on you slowly after the event. I have been waiting for this day, and it looks like it's beginning to happening.

Don't go down the conspiracy road for Donald Dump. You don't need to, what's the point? It scared him and now he as PTSD which is having an effect on his ability to run.

Don't turn into a Blue MAGA. Conspiracy theories are for the mentally ill. I am not saying you are mentally ill if you believe in one occasionally, but conspiracy theories are cat nip for those who are mentally ill. Most of those mass shooter guys always trace back to consuming a lot of media proliferated with conspiracy talk. Psychology professionals will tell you they have a negative view of people who are really into conspiracy talk. It's one step away from hearing voices. Sometimes the two go hand in hand.

It's a unhealthy coping mechanism for people who cant function well in society so they are always looking for an alternative reality to believe in and explain why they dont fit in and why life didn't go the way they planned. If you need proof, just look at how those MAGA freaks that get on cam go from one crazy theory to another, don't believe Trump lost the election, Jan 6th was instigated by liberals. You don't want to be the Blue version of that.

Did you post that here, r137?

If so, I saw your post and immediately thought you made a very good point.

I think Trump is shell-shocked from the Harris Walz tsunami, too, if I may mix my metaphors

R138, I agree with you and absolutely believe that he was grazed by the bullet. I will say however that I only became certain of that fact after the FBI released a statement that he had, in fact, been hit.

That was not so much a function of how likely I thought that it was that it was staged, but the my certainty that Trump is capable of anything, and the crazier it sounds the more likely it is that it’s one of his hair brained ideas.

R140, but the FBI also said that they have no medical records describing his injuries. Are they just “taking his word for it”?

R138, I do completely agree with you about people who have mental illness getting caught up in conspiracy theories, I’m the poster you’re responding to. I don’t talk about it with anyone I know in my real life. I definitely have second guessed if I should post my thoughts on it for the same reason you outline so well. But at the end of the day? I have to go with what I saw, what I read, and absolutely nothing about it makes any sense. Is there going to be a Congressional Hearing on it? I will refrain from posting on it again unless/until there is more evidence released to the public. However, please promise you’ll buy me a drink if it comes to light later that those pieces of shit orchestrated it. And I’ll buy you a round of I’m wrong?

Maybe I read too much, maybe what I read was inaccurate. But I’m “context” on the StrengthsFinder, and I don’t think I’m misinformed on the chronology of the event, on the dozens of mistakes made, the inexplicable way SS held him up like a Thanksgiving turkey.

[quote]The two dead people? You think rump cares about “collateral damage “?

People keep saying Trump is crazy and capable of anything. That isn’t true. He is completely incapable of putting himself in harms way and sacrificing himself for any cause. He would never put himself in a situation where he could be sacrificed. He only cares about how a cause can engrandize himself. He’s not about to die for anything.

donald definitely reads DL. It was two weeks ago that I wrote:

[quote]"How long before donald, citing Ronnie "Dr. Feel Good" Jackson, whines: 'My private doctor, the honorable Dr. Ronnie Johnson, says the bullet that maimed me for life was laced with PTSD, some of which got into my system, so now I've got PTSD for life through bullet germ warfare against me!"

You're welcome, donald.

R142, that's why I wonder if his team orchestrated it without his knowledge. What if his own sons were involved? I'd be watching that recording too.

His sons couldn't organize a circle jerk.

R135 👏 times a million.

You're probably right r145.

Limp, magat fantasy.

Flaaaaaaaaccccccccciidddddd

Rehearsed and staged

He probably watches himself as president all the time. He's a trainwreck.

Important Tea!!!!

Trump at first says the guy missed

Fake blood capsule

R149 NIMROD, the Hitler pic is computer generated.

R137- I love you!

Yes,will be watching.

r108 "I believe in our country,"

You should be even cornier. Do you also believe the children are our future?

IRONY = The Kamala Cult and the MAGA Cult have more in common than either realize.

PTSD is both plausible, and being floated as an excuse for his deeper excursions into mental illness. Helicopter confusion, bigger crowds than MLK, Kamala's airport crowds not there.

It's revealing that anyone connected to Trump would concede any such 'weakness.' Because of course he's an accredited marvel of medical science. There's some desperation in trying to offset new ground in demented assertions.

There's the hint of the loyal excuses made on behalf of Biden for a long while. It's doubtful Trump can now restrain his yet more exaggerated fantasies. Best for the Democrats to continue their strong stable momentum, not be complacent for a moment, and let their opponent steadily self-destruct.

I have been out of the country for about three years now. I didn’t realize such a brain germ had spread around America on both sides of the political fence. There is such a thing as Blue MAGATS. Sad.

I guess when it’s so hard to know what’s real or believe in anything, with so much misinformation and fake news, you eventually end up believing anything you want to.

[quote]What would PTSD do to that man?

Umm...

I strongly believe IF Trump had planned any of this it would be on a constant loop on his greatest hits in any interview he gives. “Did you see how they tried to get me!?” The “Deep State’s” attempt to take him out. He would have mentioned it on X at least. He hasn’t. The man is traumatized. People are asking why he isn’t on the road more and why he’s only campaigning in his extreme strongholds and not battle ground states. Duh. He was almost killed. He’s not going to pop up anywhere that hasn’t been 1000% secured before he gets there.

And he’s not going to pop up anywhere that doesn’t 100% love him. Can you imagine almost getting killed but still having to go on stage in front of thousands of people? Mr. Crooks did us a huge favor by sending Trump into a spiral during his campaign.

I think Trump always has to be held to the highest level of scrutiny (to borrow a legal term). His Modus Operandi is to make people believe lies are the truth (like any “good” dictator does), even when there is solid evidence to the contrary. In the latter situation, it's about belief, not what you see (as can be the case with religion).

Personally, I’d rather read multiple hypotheses (some call them conspiracy theories) than give Trump an inch of credibility. For me, anything less than that becomes co-dependency on Trump’s severe and dangerous mental illness.

After reading this thread, among many others on this topic I've conceded that this country is doomed.

"they" can't find the shooter's body.

What a coincidence! Absolutely no conspiracy. Nothing to see here!

R165. Go back to your native country and leave American to our collective stupidity.

You are unwanted here.

R166 go online, there are several pics of dead Mr. Crooks with blood pouring out of him. What do they need the body as proof for? So you can see where they dug out the chip implanted in him?

r167 America is my native country, you absolute dipshit.

[quote]After reading this thread, among many others on this topic I've conceded that this country is doomed.

And full of rage R165. I’m the poster up thread who said I’ve been out of the country for three years now. I’m also the OP of the “Traveling to Sitges Spain” thread on here. I am here now.

The hotel I’m staying at has a free breakfast. In the morning there’s everyone from France, Germany, England, America. This poor waitress went to go take this American’s plate and he starts screaming at her, “NEXT TIME ASK! What’s wrong with you?! God, you fucking idiot.” Here is a grown-ass white American Gay man screaming at this Spanish woman just trying to do her job. Who behaves like that? It was so shocking and embarrassing. And I’ve seen it when I travel back home. People are on edge. You instantly feel the difference. The country is so full of rage right now.

You're a fucking liar, magat.

And you are unwanted.

Ida Lupino did it with so much more style on "The Twilight Zone."

DJT, please take note.

Fatass to get bulletproof glass protection.

I wasn't aware they made glass that big.

It's actually a mirror on the side he speaks into so he can preen.

He’s not touring because he’s too fucking tired and lazy. Also, he hasn’t paid multiple venues and word has spread. And finally, SS told him no more outdoor venues. He prefers those because they’re much much cheaper, but SS can’t secure him outdoors, it’s too hard.

His DIL shut down 75% of the GOP field offices. Kamala has spent I think $90mil on ads so far, while he’s spent $5mil. Where is all his money going????? Man oh man, Rethugs who gave him money (again!!!!) will eventually get pissed when they finally realized he conned them out of lots and lots of their money. THAT is where it will chap their asses….their wallets. Couldn’t happen to bigger assholes. You got conned mother fuckers!!!!

he's a chump

Bullies get their kicks when the victim doesn't fight back, because the bully knows that he has the power and can do or say anything he wants. However, when the victim fights back, the bully shows what a true coward he is. For years, the Dems have been functioning under the Michelle Obama crap of " Going high", which has just empowered the bully and has provided countless hours of glee for his cretin followers. Now, the tables are turning, culminating in old man Biden referring to him as " Donald Dump," and we can see how panicked he is and how much he has gone into hiding, like the yellow coward he is. I wonder what effect it is having on his fellow cowards, who once looked at him as the alpha, but now are beginning to see him as, in their terms, a" pussy."

r106, blood capsules do not contain that much blood, and they need to be crushed with a lot of force like your jaws, not a hand clapping to an ear. Plus the pathlines of blood are consistent with an object travelling horizontally. Even if he did have a larger "capsule" (we use condoms, used for squibs, and they cannot be ruptured by Trump's motion), the blood pathlines would be dripping vertically.

R179, thank you for that, it’s very very helpful.

Next question, have you looked at his ear this week? I have and there is nothing there. Could SPFX cover up a wound so perfectly? I’m genuinely asking, because I realize maybe make-up artists are camouflaging whatever scab should be there.

USA Today, the paper written so that even uneducated MAGAts ( which is all of them) can understand, takes it to Trump.

R180 - when you nick yourself shaving how visible is the cut once you get it to stop bleeding, and how long does it take to heal?

Trump’s ear was nicked a month ago.

How does a bullet from an AK “nick” like a razor blade though r182? He only wore that gym sock on his ear for a week and then Poof! Boo-boo bye-bye. I’ve never seen a “nick” cover the entire side of someone’s face, you can see the smeared blood that was all over his cheek. So the injury could not have been as small as a razor cut, just due to the volume of blood.

Are there really people who think this was a conspiracy? Seriously?

If so, please explain how you get a gunman to shoot at someone protected by the secret service. What is the inevitable end of doing that?

[Quote] PoisonedDragon - do you really think professional trolls bother with Datalounge thread destruction? I mean, I agree with you that it's hard to believe there are this number of asshat conspiracy nuts among DLers, but it seems that there are.

Why do you think it’s more than one person? The fecal fingerprints always point to the same person. Same childish arguments, same racism, same goobish cosplays.

[Quote] How does a bullet from an AK “nick” like a razor blade though

It wasn’t an AK, it was an AR-15. An AK is a Russian assault rifle that fires 7.62mm. Bigger, slower round. Shorter range and less accurate

An AR-15 fires 5.56mm and is more accurate.

That said, I agree with you. If his ear had been hit by a 5.56mm round some or most of it would have been blown off. It was obviously a shard of the podium, acting as shrapnel.

Sorry r186, I just started my second cuppa Joe, brain not firing. You are correct on the gun. Finally, at least one person admits there is simply no way a bullet caused his injury!!!!

Sorry, didn’t mean to lecture r187. The main thrust of your argument is right. There is no way that a 5.56mm round creates a cut on an ear. It’s an impossibility.

R187 the argument has never been if it was a bullet or not. It doesn’t matter really. The main thing is that someone tried to kill Donald Trump, but only managed to kill someone else. It wasn’t staged, it wasn’t a conspiracy. But the idea of it all is driving Donald Crazy.

It's a good crisp summary @ R181, plain prose albeit with justified snark. It allows the repeated insanity to sing out in plain sight. It's possible to become inured to Trump's lies, they're so exhausting to process. Small wonder there are noises from the inner circle about PTSD in mitigation. Tragically though, he needs no such excuse.

I'd like to chime in to say that in cases of PTSD, one of the presenting symptoms is always AVOIDANCE. Avoiding thinking about or talking about the traumanic incident. Avoiding reading about or being reminding of the incident. Avoiding doing things or going places that remind one of the traumatizing experience. In a case of true PTSD, no one would be watching and rewatching the traumatic incident. And if a person with PTSD after a shooting were to hear a loud noice they would be ducking under tables and running out of rooms. Trump exhibits none of the signs.

If Trump has PTSD, he would refuse to watch the clip, and get extremely agitated and panicked if encouraged or pressured to watch the clip.

If Trump has PTSD he would be refusing to ever do another outdoor rally or outdoor press conference for the rest of his life. There would be no talk of bulletproof glass.

True PTSD is shattering. You go through something that rips away the childlike but critical delusion that you are somehow safe and protected from harm in this crazy unpredictable world. If you go through something harrowing and PTSD is descending into your soul, you would not be merching sneakers about your brush with death two days later. You would not be at the RNC a few days later musing "I shouldn't even be here, I really, shouldn't. I reeeaaaalllly shouldn't even be here right now, folks," like some bad junior high production of It's A Wonderful Life.

Trump also said at the RNC that he would talk about what happened this one time only, and then never again. Well, he was raving about his assassination attempt to Elon the other night with zero negative affet whatsover. You'd almost think that Trump was tickled by it all.

Forgive those of us for whom the "attempt" feels so staged and cynica. We are talking about a consummate snake oil salesman, after all. Hard to take him seriously on any level. And I am not a conspiracy person at all. But there was the "Fight! Fight! Fight!" hero-martyr moment/slash/photo op, and then the immediate narrative pivot to "Trump is protected/anointed by God/Jesus" and also "Trump is humbled, Trump is rewriting his RNC speech. Trump will now be talking about unity." I mean, it sure seemed like a prefabricated pivot to me. Add the $299 "Assassination" sneakers and it feels about as soulless and staged as it gets.

Having said that, The MAGA movement is just crass enough to take an actual harrowing event, drain it of pathos and meaning, and then kick its corpse while people pay to watch them do it.

R191 Soldiers with PTSD still have to go into battle. Trump is in a battle now. He can’t sit down and take a break. He has to go out and campaign.

[quote] Problems with attention and concentration keep them [people suffering from PTSD] from being engaged with their surroundings with zest and energy Uncomplicated activities like reading, conversing, and watching television require extra effort. This loss of ability to focus, in turn, often leads to problems with taking one thing at a time and gets in the way of organizing one's life to get it back on track.

Sounds like the Trump campaign right about now…

Imagine if the bullet tore his ear off, combined with the orange makeup bizarre hair and chicken's butt mouth. 007 would wet his pants laughing at that villain.

I think it's funny that someone thinks the Piltdown Man was a conspiracy. Fraud, hoax, OK, but these are not uncommon in archeology.

R176 Many New Yorkers have been aware for decades of Trump's system of stiffing workers, contractors and builders. He gives them either a down-payment or no more than half to start and complete whatever the project or task is, and then at the end he doesn't pay them the rest. Claiming that the job was sub-par, the quality of the products used were wrong or inferior, the job was not completed in time, or just ignores the bill for the balance. Sometimes he will offer a small fraction of the remainder of the money due, or simply pay nothing. Their option is to take him to court,which will often take years and may cost as much or even more than the amount due. There are actually a handful of businesses than went bankrupt because of this practice.

[quote] Trump watches himself get shot ‘over and over’

In all fairness, I watch that clip over and over myself.

Shot in the ear/But Trump still sucks 🎶

When I first saw video of the incident I have to admit I wondered if it were staged and that the blood on his ear was from a squib/prop. This was mainly because of his antic of demanding to raise his fist , knowing it would be a campaign image for his followers. He is never one to let a photo op get away. But when I heard three others were shot and one died, then I understood it to be a true shooting. And yes, his ear "injury" was not from a direct bullet, but from a shard of whatever of a piece of shrapnel. Even a light grazing from an AR-15 bullet would have at the very least torn off a portion of his ear.

All this is PR for the Trump pity party.

Has he now developed a worse case of OCD?

Walt, my Diet Coke.

Walt my diaper.

Walt my ketchup.

Walt REWIND!

R198 Plus he had to get his high heels back on. 👠

R160- get the fuck back out of our country-go back to your cuntry.

I refused to watch the recording of this incident and told a buddy to not share the coverage of it with me.

There was a fucking troll who began a thread "day shoe in trump".

Day has not been identified by the troll.

"...................A campaign official confirmed that the shooting continues to weigh on Trump, with an official adding: “he’s been through a lot.”............"

Quick!!!! Where is my hanky!!!!!!

Norma Desmond

The top of the ear can bleed profusely, much like your knee or your scalp. You would be surprised how much it can bleed, and if he's taking blood thinners, a lot more bleeding than normal. We've covered up scabs and cuts with liquid bandage and then airbrush makeup over it.

BTW, salmon, cherries, almonds, vitamin E , anything with fatty EFA oils will thin your blood. I went through an almond and cherry phase, got some botox, one injection in the middle of my forehead bled profusely for 5 minutes, and the color was more orange. It was really bizarre- it hadn't happen when I got it 5 months previous.

Why would Trump be taking blood thinners?

He needs to stay at Maralago and play golf. 24/7.

Why hasn't the family of the guy in the audience been interviewed 100 times over this? Why not the shooter's family? I don't understand.

There's all sorts of wrong about guy.

Because they’re MAGATS r208. We are in the middle of a Civil War, media cannot give these lunatics a platform, so I’m glad they aren’t airing interviews. They refused Biden’s phone call btw.

Donald Trump watching a screen with the incident superimposed into via AI (unless they can show the footage), and the Basement Jaxx song Get Me Off in then background. They AI trump to make it just what you think. We can play so dirty now, someone just had to try.

I meant they have him watch himself and literally get off to it. That’s how fucked up he is.

[quote]Why would Trump be taking blood thinners?

Because his blood has to flow through arteries clogged with KFC gravy.

Oh and I'll also support that he was hit by a shard or shrapnel vs a bullet- a wound from tthat would heal more quickly.

Live in PA.

He seems low-energy and medicated.

It takes a lot for me to remain unsympathetic to an assassination attempt victim. And yet …

Liberals who think the attempt was staged are Qanon level insane.

What happened to the corpse of the assassin

You would know, r217.

More slurring or denture slips today.

It's really obvious r220

The very fact that know-it-all assholes like R217 adamantly insist this was not staged makes me think it was definitely staged.

They're kind of like 1/6/21 deniers.

Anyone with a working brain insists it was not staged, r222.

He's watching it over and over because he knows nobody else really gives a shit about it anymore. For an assassination attempt in this country on a presidential candidate, it held the headlines for about three days, if that.

So you're obviously excluding your own self, R223.

R175 😂

Rosie is a Trump's ear truther!