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Elon Musk and JK Rowling named in cyberbullying suit!

This is the suit brought by the Algerian boxer they accused of being a man but is really a woman!

Glad right-wing assholes who are obsessed with other people's genitals are finally facing some consequences

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by Anonymousreply 107August 16, 2024 9:11 AM

Poor them!

by Anonymousreply 1August 14, 2024 12:04 AM

Lol. Good luck with that.

by Anonymousreply 2August 14, 2024 12:15 AM

Some of us are not thrilled that woman beating has become an Olympic sport, OP.

by Anonymousreply 3August 14, 2024 12:44 AM

That boxer is a man and there was nothing honorable about that “win.”

by Anonymousreply 4August 14, 2024 1:36 AM

That boxer has XY chromosomes and is therefore male.

by Anonymousreply 5August 14, 2024 1:39 AM

Good! he's in for a shock when he has to prove he's not a man.

by Anonymousreply 6August 14, 2024 2:08 AM

^ Elon Musk needs to prove he's not a thumb first

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by Anonymousreply 7August 14, 2024 4:58 AM

He will lose. The boxer. Who is a dude. Will lose the suit.

by Anonymousreply 8August 14, 2024 6:03 AM

[quote] Who is a dude.

Is that de facto true?

by Anonymousreply 9August 14, 2024 6:13 AM

Bully becomes perpetual victim then goes for the money grab. There is nothing redeeming about this conman.

by Anonymousreply 10August 14, 2024 6:17 AM

Streisand effect?

by Anonymousreply 11August 14, 2024 6:20 AM

She should have added Jake Paul to the suit.

by Anonymousreply 12August 14, 2024 7:17 AM

Even the IOC acknowledged the boxer is male.

Has anyone bothered to check to see how the law works in France and if the lawyer has a good reputation or a wannabe Saul Goodman?

by Anonymousreply 13August 14, 2024 7:20 AM

[Quote] Even the IOC acknowledged the boxer is male.

Could you drop a link in please?

by Anonymousreply 14August 14, 2024 7:23 AM

Will Rescue Chick and Muriel be named in the suit???

by Anonymousreply 15August 14, 2024 7:27 AM

DL can't handle discussions on trans issues. 🚫

by Anonymousreply 16August 14, 2024 7:30 AM

The boxer is male with a DSD. She likely didn’t know this until genetic testing was done. She could easily clear this up by releasing the results of a DNA cheek swab.

by Anonymousreply 17August 14, 2024 7:34 AM

For R14

The IOC’s stance is that there is no clear definition of what a woman is, you can’t test to see if someone is a woman but the two boxers are women because their passports say they are women.

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by Anonymousreply 18August 14, 2024 7:35 AM

An Inconvenient Tranny.

by Anonymousreply 19August 14, 2024 7:41 AM

Fuck my legacy

by Anonymousreply 20August 14, 2024 8:21 AM

lol I knew JK was gonna be named since she hasn’t tweeted in a few days. What an awful person she is. Fingers crossed she’ll finally get her just desserts. Go Imane!

by Anonymousreply 21August 14, 2024 8:29 AM

R14, the IOC unwittingly acknowledged that Khelif is male when the reasons it gave for allowing Khelif to participate in the women's competition did not include that Khelif is a biological woman. The main one - from which the other alleged "reasons" stemmed - was that Khelif was registered female at birth, but so was Caster Semenya who was then proved to be a biological male with a difference in sex development (DSD, "interesex"). Thomas Bach, the head of the IOC, also spouted some crap about how science can't so easily distinguish between male and female these days. Bach said Khelife had been raised as a girl, but he pointedly did not say that Khelif had been through female puberty.

Moreover, whatever your opinion of the head of the International Boxing Association, it is the international governing body of the sport of boxing and their tests at the World Championships showed that Khelife is a biological male.

Then there are things like the male coach parading Khelife around on his shoulders after Khelife's "win" in a way that would not be permitted for a woman to sit spreadlegged over a man's neck in a Muslim society such as Algeria. One of the coaching team even said that Khelife's chromosomes changed when he (Khelife) went for a trip to the mountains. Khelife has also been photographed wearing a male groin protector and videoed adjusting his junk in his shorts.

Female contestants who competed against Khelife felt they were being hit by a male. Then there's the fact that Khelife looks exactly like a man - not like a masculine woman who works out in the gym a lot, but like a man, with a male gait, male skeletal structure.

This could all simply be settled if Khelif did a sex test, even if the IOC abolished sex tests for the Olympics in the early 2000s (no doubt under the influence of the trans activists who were getting going around that time). But, if Khelif wants to start filing legal suits (although I'm sure he knows they will get nowhere, this is just part of the propaganda) then he needs to prove he actually is a woman. The longer he refuses to do so, the more people will believe that the reason won't is because he is male.

by Anonymousreply 22August 14, 2024 8:29 AM

R21, Rowling never did tweet every day, so that doesn't mean anything. She writes a 1000-word book a year, so she's quite busy.

Her response to Khelif's nonsense suit, which will not go anywhere, could simply be that she will call Khelif a female if he does a sex test to prove he is female.

by Anonymousreply 23August 14, 2024 8:32 AM

Imane Khelif adjusting his junk. Also note his typical male stance with his feet pointing outwards, whereas women's typically point forwards.

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by Anonymousreply 24August 14, 2024 8:44 AM

Algeria gamed both of their gold medals. Let a French gymnast who was on the outs with her federation claim Algerian nationality, and entered a man with XY chromosomes into women’s boxing.

by Anonymousreply 25August 14, 2024 8:50 AM

Khelif's coach inadvertently admits that the IBA tests did show that Khelif is biologically male. Note: the IOC not only refuses to conduct chromosome tests it also refuses to conduct testosterone tests on the grounds that they discriminate against "gender identity". Link below.

[quote]Now her coach, Georges Cazorla, has confirmed that the tests identified 'a problem with hormones' and 'with chromosomes', suggesting that she may have the XY gender chromosomes typical of a man.

'This poor young girl was devastated, devastated to suddenly discover that she might not be a girl,' he told French magazine Le Point.

I suspect Khelif already had an idea that he wasn't a girl when he didn't go through female puberty or have the body of a girl or woman.

by Anonymousreply 26August 14, 2024 9:00 AM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 27August 14, 2024 9:01 AM

He might have suspected he wasn't a girl by looking at and playing with his own cock. Which you can see in the junk adjustment video. That aint no clit.

by Anonymousreply 28August 14, 2024 9:02 AM

Even OP admits that Khelif may have male genitals by spouting off about "right-wing assholes who are obsessed with other people's genitals". Yeah, genitals matter in sport because they indicate whether one is male or female and therefore whether one should compete in the men's or women's competition.

In any case, no one suggested looking at Khelif's genitals but giving him a chromosome test. Or does OP believe that sport shouldn't be categorised on grounds of sex but on grounds of "gender identity"? In which case, it sounds as though OP believes that Khelif could indeed be a biological male but because he allegedly identifies as a female he should be permitted to compete in the women's competitions. Despite the real physical damage a man could do to a woman in a sport such as boxing (aside from the cheating element).

by Anonymousreply 29August 14, 2024 9:09 AM

Just one of the many reasons I dont and will never care about the Fauxlimpics.

by Anonymousreply 30August 14, 2024 9:11 AM

Fauxlympics

by Anonymousreply 31August 14, 2024 9:12 AM

Elon Musk is frighteningly unattractive.

by Anonymousreply 32August 14, 2024 9:15 AM

R24 is funny. That is not a junk adjustment. As if a woman, or someone who claims to be, is going to be going into a ring with there junk just flopping around. The hand doesn't even go down to where the junk is, just the top of the hip. Now if Imane could touch the head of her flaccid cock resting at the top of her hip bone, she's not just a man, she's a HUNG man.

by Anonymousreply 33August 14, 2024 9:22 AM

R33, as a woman, I can assure you that women don't rummage around in our knickers like that. What exactly was Khelif giving a little squeeze to in there? I have, however, seen lots of men rummage around in their pants like that. Perhaps there are dress rules for the women boxers and they don't include male groin protectors. I have, however, seen a photo of Khelif in a male groin protector. I'll have a look for it when I have more time.

There's another video of another "female" boxer doing a couple of jumps at the Olympics and you can definitely see something bouncing about in "her" shorts. I'll look for that too when I can.

by Anonymousreply 34August 14, 2024 9:31 AM

Modest Muslim woman Iman Khelife astride her Algerian male coach's shoulders being grabbed around the hip and ass area by another Algerian male coach.

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by Anonymousreply 35August 14, 2024 9:38 AM

If it’s proved he’s male, who gets his medal?

by Anonymousreply 36August 14, 2024 9:40 AM

Honestly, that picture posted with the coaches makes it clear.

by Anonymousreply 37August 14, 2024 9:43 AM

During the Cold War East Germany was famous for extremely masculine women winning medals at the Olympics. When the Wall collapsed, those “women” disappeared. German female athletes no longer look like burly males. So gaming the system at the Olympics is nothing new. Except East Germany was clearly cheating while we have to pretend Algeria is being noble.

by Anonymousreply 38August 14, 2024 9:54 AM

[quote]During the Cold War East Germany was famous for extremely masculine women winning medals at the Olympics. When the Wall collapsed, those “women” disappeared. German female athletes no longer look like burly males. So gaming the system at the Olympics is nothing new.

The East German women were given ‘gender affirming care’ as girls so went through as much of a male puberty as is possible for females.

The British swimmer Sharron Davies was cheated out of gold in 1980 by one of these girls and made a documentary about it. These women are now in constant pain and have long term health issues as a result of the hormone treatments they were put through. Many were told not to have children because of the risk of birth defects.

by Anonymousreply 39August 14, 2024 10:04 AM

Petra Schneider who beat Davies has admitted she was doped throughout her career but the IOC never acted to restore the medals to those who competed fairly.

Davies is a household name in the UK and she argues that while she had a career from her silver medal many of her friends were cheated out of any colour medal by doped athletes.

Compare that to the USA relay teams being stripped of their medals because Marion Jones was part of the squad.

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by Anonymousreply 40August 14, 2024 10:09 AM

Has anyone ever tested Elon Musk to determine if he's human or just a deformed blobfish?

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by Anonymousreply 41August 14, 2024 10:32 AM

I’m just so thankful I have body hair and an olive complexion. It’s a combo that’s way more forgiving than that. ^

by Anonymousreply 42August 14, 2024 12:02 PM

^ Tell me about it. Hair and olive skin over a human white board any day 😬

by Anonymousreply 43August 14, 2024 12:11 PM

“ During the Cold War East Germany was famous for extremely masculine women winning medals at the Olympics. When the Wall collapsed, those “women” disappeared.”

Yeah, those were biologically normal women who were drugged without their knowledge (most likely). The documentary is The Last Gold and it’s excellent. People didn’t quite understand what was going on and one American swimmer in particular, Shirley Babashoff, got a lot of criticism for being a bad sport when she questioned it. It came out in 2016, so it was very interesting to see the way some more recent female athletes were reluctant to publicly object to Lia Thomas and Castor Semenya.

Rowling’s comment about the boxer enjoying hitting a woman seems unnecessary, but the lawsuit is bullshit and makes me less sympathetic towards the boxer. Those Penn swimmers should not have felt muzzled. Would have been nice if they’d shown more guts, but this lawsuit demonstrates that they were correct in perceiving risks to speaking out.

by Anonymousreply 44August 14, 2024 12:22 PM

But he does very much seem to enjoy hitting women, r44.

The bigger risks for the Penn swimmers were that they would be dropped from their team and lose their scholarships.

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by Anonymousreply 45August 14, 2024 12:50 PM

[quote]Rowling’s comment about the boxer enjoying hitting a woman seems unnecessary

Why? This is a boxer who was banned from the sport after the sex testing results, didn't appeal, and then took advantage of the Olympic policy to compete in the female category.

Khelif's behaviour towards the Italian boxer who was clearly upset was clear - Khelif DID enjoy it.

In the UK there are daily stories about violence against women from men - JK Rowling's ex husband admitted he hit her - and lots of men are ok with a male/female boxing match because of Khelif's hurty feelings. Khelif can fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 46August 14, 2024 1:40 PM

I don’t think it’s Ok to judge a competitor from afar and decide that they enjoy hitting women for the sake of hitting women when the event they compete in is hitting women.

Do I think Khelif should be competing in that event? NO! But I can also sort of imagine how, if you were assumed to be female, you could get involved in a sport and enjoy success and then not know when to stop (especially if you were surrounded by interested parties who were encouraging it). I’m not excusing it, I’m just putting myself in Khelif’s shoes and thinking that I wouldn’t want to give up my success and it might take me a while to come to terms with what is right. But, yeah, it would take me a lot less time if I was competing in a sport where I might kill someone and I think Khalif is overdue. But I still think Khalif and Semanya are in a different category than Thomas.

The U Penn swimmers were not on athletic scholarships and, even if they were, I don’t think a school can enforce a gag order not to have an opinion. But I don’t really know and certainly there was a lot of pressure not to object to Thomas competing as a woman. Also, if any onjections were expressed without the utmost care they might leave themselves open to accusations of hate speech that could result in formal discipline. So, yes, I understand not speaking up. I just would have had a lot of respect and admiration for them if they had.

by Anonymousreply 47August 14, 2024 2:46 PM

some swimmers from other ivies spoke their minds

by Anonymousreply 48August 14, 2024 2:50 PM

[Quote] For [R14]

[Quote] The IOC’s stance is that there is no clear definition of what a woman is, you can’t test to see if someone is a woman but the two boxers are women because their passports say they are women.

Ok but where did they acknowledge this boxer is male?

by Anonymousreply 49August 14, 2024 3:04 PM

[Quote] Why? This is a boxer who was banned from the sport after the sex testing results,

By Russians. The same Russians who say the invasion of Ukraine was an act of self-defense.

Is there any actual proof what sex this boxer is? There seems to be endless bullshit being skewed by agenda-driven types on both sides about this.

by Anonymousreply 50August 14, 2024 3:06 PM

^^^ spewed

by Anonymousreply 51August 14, 2024 3:07 PM

What has Lachlan Murdoch’s paid commentator on Fox and declared trans athlete expert, Caitlyn Jenner, has to say about this?

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by Anonymousreply 52August 14, 2024 3:07 PM

No, r50, the tests were not done by Russians.

R49, the IOC have never stated that Khelif is not a biological male and have also never stated that he is a biological woman. Read r22, however, for the evidence that undermines their claims that he's a woman.

It is funny, however, how all these trans activists are now trying to promote the idea that being assigned female at birth is what makes a woman.

by Anonymousreply 53August 14, 2024 3:38 PM

I was under the impression that the accepted consensus is that Khelif presented as female at birth and was raised female, but does not have XX chromosomes. There could be variations on the theme, maybe the gender at birth was a little ambiguous, maybe the chromosomes aren’t typical XY, but I haven’t seen anything credible that suggests an entirely different scenario.

by Anonymousreply 54August 14, 2024 3:40 PM

[quote]She writes a 1000-word book a year, so she's quite busy.

Does it really take all year to write a 1,000 word book?

by Anonymousreply 55August 14, 2024 3:47 PM

Haha, sorry r55, I meant a 1000-page book!

by Anonymousreply 56August 14, 2024 3:52 PM

This is what IOC president Thomas Bach said on the issue:

[quote]"It is not as easy as some may now want to portray it - that XX or XY is the clear distinction between men and women. This is scientifically not true anymore."

An IOC spokesman said that the biological distinction between men and women:

[quote] "is not a black and white issue"

When they are tying themselves in knots and spouting bullshit about how there are supposedly no biological differences between men and women solely to justify Imane Khelif's inclusion in the women's boxing competition, you know that they know that Khelif is not a biological woman.

If there is really no definable biological distinction between men and women then why not get rid of the two categories altogether and just have one competition in which everyone competes?

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by Anonymousreply 57August 14, 2024 3:57 PM

[quote] It is funny, however, how all these trans activists are now trying to promote the idea that being assigned female at birth is what makes a woman.

Who did that?

It should not be relevant to whether an athlete is allowed to compete as a woman at a high level, but it’s absolutely a factor in how a situation should be handled once questions arise and how an athlete should be judged. That’s why it’s being mentioned.

It’s probably never going to be that clean. And what are you going to do at lower level of competition? Demand that the new girl in town who just made the HS volleyball team get a DNA test? What about the girl who everyone has known since kindergarten, but is developing very differently? It’s reasonable to try and show some sensitivity.

by Anonymousreply 58August 14, 2024 3:59 PM

All the online trans activists who were giddy with delight when Thomas Bach supposedly "cleared things up" and "proved" that Khelif is a woman when he said that he was born female and registered as female at birth, r58.

by Anonymousreply 59August 14, 2024 4:01 PM

When Thomas Bach says "It is not as easy as some may now want to portray it - that XX or XY is the clear distinction between men and women. This is scientifically not true anymore" in order to justify Imane Khelif participating in the women's competition, he is inadvertently admitting that Khelif has XY chromosomes.

by Anonymousreply 60August 14, 2024 4:04 PM

If I were a woman I too would get pissed off that even though it can, apparently, be so tricky to tell the differences between women and men, it is somehow always, always women who end up getting screwed.

by Anonymousreply 61August 14, 2024 4:23 PM

Are the anti trans loons now saying that a man can have a vagina? I can’t keep up.

by Anonymousreply 62August 14, 2024 4:37 PM

No, r62, a man can't have a vagina and a woman can't have a penis. Which is why transwomen will always be men and transmen will always be women.

by Anonymousreply 63August 14, 2024 5:06 PM

Who were the trans activists, R59? Are you talking about random individuals posting stuff on X, or are there recognized groups that represent trans people now saying that “being assigned female at birth is what makes a woman.”?

by Anonymousreply 64August 14, 2024 5:18 PM

Trans activists always try and muddle up the issue. If Khelif has the same DSD that Caster Semenya has then he has no female reproductive system/organs. He has an underdeveloped male reproductive system/organs that possibly wasn't identified correctly at birth.

by Anonymousreply 65August 14, 2024 5:25 PM

[quote]Ok but where did they acknowledge this boxer is male?

At the IOC press conference the Olympics official said "This is not a DSD case" - this was then officially corrected to "This is not a transgender case", confirming it is a DSD case and that Khelif is therefore male.

[quote]It’s probably never going to be that clean. And what are you going to do at lower level of competition? Demand that the new girl in town who just made the HS volleyball team get a DNA test? What about the girl who everyone has known since kindergarten, but is developing very differently? It’s reasonable to try and show some sensitivity.

DSDs are incredibly rare but become more obvious around puberty. No one accused Venus and Serena and Katie Ledecky, three very tall women, of having DSDs, now why would that have been? Should the girls losing their places in competitions to males also be shown sensitivity?

Yes, there should be sensitivity but do you honestly think Khelif didn't know? When Khelif didn't start having periods like other girls and instead went through a male puberty? Even if that was not discussed then when the test results came back as male and Khelif was suspended by "the Russians" aka the IBA, why did Khelif and the management team/Algerian sports people not challenge it?

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by Anonymousreply 66August 14, 2024 5:33 PM

[quote] At the IOC press conference the Olympics official said "This is not a DSD case" - this was then officially corrected to "This is not a transgender case", confirming it is a DSD case and that Khelif is therefore male.

This doesn’t actually follow R66. A DSD case doesn’t mean the subject is necessarily male, so, no sorry. You’re just saying things again.

by Anonymousreply 67August 14, 2024 5:49 PM

Someone who is XY with high testosterone is male R67. A woman with swyers syndrome doesn’t have high testosterone and they have bone density issues which wouldn’t be feasible for a sport like boxing.

One of his coaches said they worked to reduce his testosterone to acceptable levels.

by Anonymousreply 68August 14, 2024 6:04 PM

She’s a man, baby!

by Anonymousreply 69August 14, 2024 6:06 PM

Trannies are all autistic. They can’t read the room.

by Anonymousreply 70August 14, 2024 6:07 PM

Khelif could easily crush all "her" detractors and ensure the success of "her" lawsuit by presenting the results of a sex test proving "she" is female. The fact "she" doesn't suggests that "she" is in fact male and "she" knows it.

by Anonymousreply 71August 14, 2024 6:41 PM

Kinda cute dude.

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by Anonymousreply 72August 14, 2024 6:44 PM

[quote]Someone who is XY with high testosterone is male [R67]. A woman with swyers syndrome doesn’t have high testosterone and they have bone density issues which wouldn’t be feasible for a sport like boxing. One of his coaches said they worked to reduce his testosterone to acceptable levels.

What we're going to see now is Trump levels of delusion.

Millions of people refused to believe what they were seeing and took issue with Musk, Rowling, Trump, Piers Morgan. Meghan Kelly, and are insisting Khelif is a cisgender AFAB biological woman and they can't acknowledge they were wrong so they will push this lie until the end of time and try to discredit anyone.

Blame the Russians, blame TERFs, blame Zionist, blame Republicans.

Khelif is a biological male with a DSD who was banned after tests confirmed this but who got to compete in the Olympics because the IOC welcomes males in female competitions.

by Anonymousreply 73August 14, 2024 6:54 PM

Imane in France wearing a man's groin guard during training, just like every other female boxer!

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by Anonymousreply 74August 14, 2024 7:30 PM

R73 post a link to the specific test results. You people keep saying she has XY chromosomes, so post a link that proves it.

by Anonymousreply 75August 14, 2024 7:35 PM

This is what one of her trainers (a European, not an Algerian) said about Imane's sex test, where it was revealed that he is a man. He's basically admitting that the test showed Imane is male and that Imane knows it (as if he didn't already know he was a man). But, poor Imane, to make him feel better about discovering he's a man, let's train him to fight in the women's boxing at the Olympics!

[quote]I found it out while watching the videos of the World Championship in March 2023. She was disqualified from the final against a Chinese female boxer. At the time I thought it was a matter of international and diplomatic disputes… But the decision was backed up by tests. Honestly, I thought it was disgusting. Regardless of the results of these biological tests, and without going into the details – that's the biologists and doctors' business – this poor young girl was shattered, devastated to discover, out of the blue, that she might not be a girl ! All the people who liked her, including me, went to help cheer her up. The prospect of the Olympics helped put it all back together. Fortunately, she can also rely on her family (a very modest one, that she helps thanks to her boxing) who live in a small town in Algeria.

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by Anonymousreply 76August 14, 2024 7:35 PM

R75, I just posted an interview with one of Imane's trainers in which the trainer admits that the sex tests showed Imane to be male. The IOC has never stated that Imane is a biological female, but has instead given nonsense excuses such as being XY doesn't mean you're a man! The IOC has unfortunately scrapped sex tests and testosterone level tests.

It would be wonderful if Imane went and got a sex test done to prove he is a woman with XX chromosomes. That would shut all his detractors up. The fact he refuses to do so is a strong indication that he knows the result would show he is XY.

by Anonymousreply 77August 14, 2024 7:40 PM

[quote] Millions of people refused to believe what they were seeing and took issue with Musk, Rowling, Trump, Piers Morgan. Meghan Kelly, and are insisting Khelif is a cisgender AFAB biological woman and they can't acknowledge they were wrong so they will push this lie until the end of time and try to discredit anyone.

Millions, R73? Name ten. Ten people who insist that Khelif is a genetically female XX cisgender woman. Not three people in her entourage who say she is a woman or born female or whatever, people who explicitly say she is genetically female, a normal cisgender woman, a woman capable of pregnancy, biologically and hormonally female, something along those lines. Hell, name two.

You are willfully stupid.

by Anonymousreply 78August 14, 2024 8:16 PM

Also swyers syndrome is 1 and 80000 female births. Swyers is where a Y chromosome is present in the fetus very early on but doesn’t have the SRY gene to continue on to male development, in other words it’s broken and non functional. So the fetus continues to develop as female but without ovaries, but a cervix, uterus and vagina. The lack of ovaries means that puberty has to be medically induced through hormonal treatments.

TL DR version is that they are infertile women, though donor egg, ivf and fertility drugs can carry a child.

by Anonymousreply 79August 14, 2024 9:11 PM

R78 - there have been countless articles in left wing mainstream media insisting Khelif is female

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by Anonymousreply 80August 14, 2024 9:29 PM

MSNBC insisting Khelif is female, although this was written by tragic balding AGP transwoman Katelyn Burns

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by Anonymousreply 81August 14, 2024 9:32 PM

R81 do you have a link to any credible testing that she’s not female? Including a description of the test performed? I keep seeing you weirdos say that she’s XY but so far no link saying so hrmmmmm.

by Anonymousreply 82August 14, 2024 9:41 PM

Neither of the articles at R80 or R81 try to claim that Khelif is genetically female.

The first is bemoaning what the author sees as witch hunting motivated by sexiest assumption of what women should look like and the second is making the point that Khelif is not trans. In fact, it explicitly states, “There are two nonbinary athletes competing in their assigned sex at birth category, but no trans women. ” So, sort of the opposite of claiming that she is a cisgender biological woman.

by Anonymousreply 83August 14, 2024 9:44 PM

What about this tweet?

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by Anonymousreply 84August 14, 2024 9:48 PM

Former Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar thinks Khelif is female

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by Anonymousreply 85August 14, 2024 9:59 PM

[quote]I just posted an interview with one of Imane's trainers in which the trainer admits that the sex tests showed Imane to be male.

That's not what the interview says R77 -- and you'd know that if you had actually read the article and weren't just trying to push your agenda.

The interviewee, Georges Cazorla (who is more akin to a sports doctor than an actual trainer, having developed various medical programs for her) says he found out about her disqualification by the IBA while watching videos of the 2023 World Championships. At no time does he say that he actually saw the sex tests that supposedly showed her to be male (and which the IBA still refuses to release).

He also makes repeated statements like: "As far as I am concerned, Imane is obviously a great girl, an exceptional athlete who deserves all our respect." "As for Imane, she was born a girl. She was raised as a girl. She has a girl's sensitivity. By this logic, why not test all the people whose abilities are superior to the others?" "She's a young woman, I'll say it again, who was raised as a girl."

Or this? "After the 2023 Championship, when she was disqualified, I took the initiative and contacted a renowned endocrinologist at the University Hospital Kremlin-Bicêtre in Paris, who examined her. He confirmed that Imane was indeed a woman, despite her karyotype and her testosterone levels. He said : “There is a problem with her hormones, and with her chromosomes, but she's a woman.” That was all that mattered to us. We then worked with an Algeria-based doctor to control and regulate Imane's testosterone levels, which are currently in the female range. Some tests clearly show that all her muscle qualities and others have diminished since then. Today, on a muscular and biological level, she can compare with a woman-woman-woman."

by Anonymousreply 86August 14, 2024 10:10 PM

R86, well, ok. “There’s a problem with her hormones, and with her chromosomes” and she allegedly can “compare with a woman-woman-woman”? She’s not female.

by Anonymousreply 87August 14, 2024 10:15 PM

R84 counts. That’s one. One person in the world.

R85 implies the opposite.

I’m done with this, you’re playing. Nobody can be that stupid.

by Anonymousreply 88August 14, 2024 10:45 PM

How else are we to interpret statements to the effect of "imagine the shock when she discovered she wasn't actually a woman", r86?

At the very least the trainer's interview reveals that Imane is a male with DSD who has supposedly gone through some kind of treatment to reduce his testosterone levels. Although, the trainer is still doing the usual obfuscating convolutions to muddy the waters on the real story.

But, say it is the case that Imane has a DSD, then why don't Imane himself and the IOC just say that clearly, instead of all this "Imane was born a girl, she was raised a girl, she has an F in her passport" bullshit. Because none of that is proof that Imane is a biological female, simply that he is possibly an intersex male and in a poor country like Algeria where the capacity to check for such conditions at birth may not have been available 25 years ago this was missed, as it was missed for biological male Caster Semenya.

The reason they don't say it is either because then they will have to admit that he is a biological male, albeit it with a DSD, in which case he still shouldn't be in the women's competition, or he's just a regular XY male.

by Anonymousreply 89August 14, 2024 10:59 PM

R87 so you’re saying a man can have a vagina?

So a trans man, taking testosterone, will always be female (your guys line). But Imane, with a vagina and elevated (contended) testosterone, is male (your guys line). You gender essentialists are all over the shop lmao.

by Anonymousreply 90August 14, 2024 11:04 PM

[quote] If there is really no definable biological distinction between men and women then why not get rid of the two categories altogether and just have one competition in which everyone competes

One could see the difference between the sexes during the swimming mixed relay and the track mixed relay. When the swimming started with men vs women (some teams started with a woman, others opted for a man) the men were clearly in the lead.

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by Anonymousreply 91August 14, 2024 11:13 PM

[quote]What an awful person she is.

Yeah, an awful person who doesn't want to see men repeatedly punching women in the head.

by Anonymousreply 92August 14, 2024 11:16 PM

Wow he is cute at r72. Slim North African. Any size meat verificatia?

by Anonymousreply 93August 14, 2024 11:20 PM

Ha she hasn’t posted on twitter in a week now. After nonstop obsessive posting for the whole Olympics about Imane. I bet her lawyers had a word and told her to stfu. She’s in trouble 🥰

by Anonymousreply 94August 14, 2024 11:37 PM

Size meat verificatia incoming as part of discovery. Popcorn at the ready

by Anonymousreply 95August 14, 2024 11:37 PM

[quote]She’s in trouble

She's probably on vacation.

Are you 12 years old?

by Anonymousreply 96August 14, 2024 11:38 PM

R90, where did you get the impression that Imane has a vagina from? Caster Semenya doesn't have a vagina yet we were told that he was born a girl and raised a girl, yet he has testes! One thing the IOC and Imane's team never claim is that he went through female puberty. Because he didn't.

Here's a photo of Imane wearing a male groin protector for his imaginary vagina.

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by Anonymousreply 97August 14, 2024 11:39 PM

Rowling never did post every day, birdbrain at r94 and I doubt she's worried about Khelif's joke lawsuit. She can simply ask that he provide a sex test to prove he's really a woman. If he continues to refuse to do that, when that would silence all his crtics, it's because a sex test would show he's actually a man. In which case calling him a man isn't "bullying", it's telling the truth.

by Anonymousreply 98August 14, 2024 11:45 PM

R96 no, are you geriatric?

by Anonymousreply 99August 14, 2024 11:46 PM

100! He’s a man!

by Anonymousreply 100August 15, 2024 12:07 AM

Musk & JK are TERFs.

Next….

by Anonymousreply 101August 15, 2024 8:54 PM

You’re a TERF too R101

You’re a gay man who doesn’t want to fuck women because you’re gay. You know the difference between male and female.

You’re. A. TERF.

by Anonymousreply 102August 15, 2024 9:46 PM

Let's face it, you're already halfway in the "gender-critical" camp if you're skeptical that a penis can be a female sex organ (if its owner is a trans woman)

by Anonymousreply 103August 15, 2024 11:36 PM

R11 I think you’re on to something. This is just going to bring even closer scrutiny to the issue. Then everyone will know exactly what Khelif is.

by Anonymousreply 104August 15, 2024 11:49 PM

R102 You certainly don’t sound respectable. You’re that trans basher troll on DL? Failure becomes you.

by Anonymousreply 105August 16, 2024 12:45 AM

Nah, not an anti trans basher.

I'm a normal gay man who thinks that trans issues is having a negative effect on gay rights.

I support sports categories for females only, women's prisons for females, rape centres for females. I also support gay saunas, sex clubs, dark rooms etc being male only.

For trans people, my message is enjoy your life, don't be offended when people know you're the opposite sex to the one you think you are, don't demand women give up their hard fought right and services, and leave kids the fuck alone.

Quite simple really.

by Anonymousreply 106August 16, 2024 7:33 AM

Algeria is supposedly a conservative, Muslim majority country with a strict divide between the sexes, and homosexuality and transgenderism are illegal. Yet Khelif is allowed to dress butch, and passes as male when wearing masculine attire. That is very strange!

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by Anonymousreply 107August 16, 2024 9:11 AM
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