So it's riots in the UK this weekend?

Everybody on Twitter is posting tweets about how "According to Keir Starmer, I'm now a right-wing thug" and posting a picture of themselves. People are angry!

People are rightfully angry over this horrific crime. They have a right to protest their government's incompetence.

[quote]Police in Liverpool said a number of officers had been injured dealing with “serious disorder” on Saturday. Videos posted on social media showed crowds of anti-immigrant protesters assembled along the city’s riverside, shouting slogans, such as “Stop the Boats” – a reference to the dinghies used by asylum seekers to cross the English Channel to the UK mainland.

I don't see why this is something people should be demonized for, as the media is portraying them.

A black kid who was born in the UK committed a horrible crime, and now white people are attacking blacks, immigrants, and Muslims all over the country.

Yeah, sure, that’s perfectly reasonable.

None of this is legitimate, just racist thugs looking for a fight. The people of Southport and Hartlepool rightly denounced it while they cleaned up the destruction caused by these English Defence League thugs. Meanwhile their hero Tommy Ten Names has fucked off to Spain on his Irish passport to avoid being charged with hate crimes.

There are reports of coaches travelling between cities to increase their numbers and cause chaos. This is highly organised mass violence.

[quote]None of this is legitimate, just racist thugs looking for a fight.

100%.

It's the unfettered migration that's the problem.

Organized on social media and amplified by Putin’s bot army.

If this bullshit doesn’t spread to Europe and then the U.S., I’ll be very surprised.

[quote] People are rightfully angry over this horrific crime. They have a right to protest their government's incompetence.

They have no right to riot and to beat other bystanders up.

But you knew that. You're just trolling.

They're protesting today, not rioting.

[quote]It's the unfettered migration that's the problem.

The unruly people who are rioting, attacking police and causing chaos are the problem. If they are angry about so-called "unfettered migration," that still isn't an excuse to act like violent savages.

At least they’re not ripping down statues and throwing them into the Thames because they’re triggering.

R11: Not to mention, unfetter migration has nothing to do with this crime. These people are looking for an excuse for pogroms with a Labour government in office and GB Nazi News, Hate Talk TV, and Russian and Chinese disinformation trolls are fanning it.

UK should release all the crime stats (not just about these most recent evens).

Not just about the birth and immigration status of the victims. Also the birth and immigration status of the perpetrators. Age, background and status. When they arrived (if immigrants), where they came from, etc.

Honest statistics can either support or deny the claims that certain kinds of crimes have increased with the criminals not native born Brits.

Reliable information should not be hidden from view at the instigation of either side.

[quote] Not to mention, unfetter migration has nothing to do with this crime.

It has everything to do with this crime.

The victims are victims, so why should it matter where they were born and their immigration status, R14? Seems like an unnecessary attempt to placate the far-right's bigotry more than anything else. And if the British far-right are anything like the U.S. far-right, you will have a situation where whatever statistics the government puts out will be disputed, labeled "fake/fake news" or become the subject of some vast conspiracy theory.

The British authorities released the identity of the perpetrator specifically to assuage concerns that his identity was being deliberately concealed (which it was, because he’s under 18).

The rioters are rioting anyway.

Got any other brilliant ideas?

Eghad Gladys! The peasants are revolting!

Trash.

This is only going to get worse under the antisemitic Labour government.

Israeli press disagrees with r20, who's likely a troll, but it's good to have this in the record anyway.

What's the "P" word, R20? I watched the video, but it was just a lot of noise.

R22: the first four letters of the country bordered by India to the east and Afghanistan to the northwest. It's a bad slur in the UK.

^ “Paki” is a derogatory term, and is unacceptable to right thinking people.

Especially as it's sometimes used generically and indiscriminately by ignorant people for all "brown people" of uncertain origin.

The Right in the UK lost faith in the Conservatives (who talked up immigration as being a huge problem and then proceeded to fail to tackle it) and instead turned to Reform. These delusional people genuinely believed that they were going to break through in a way which would see Farage become at least the Leader of the Opposition. Instead, they only managed to elect Farage and a few other rabble-rousers. The rabble has now been roused, and is currently having a temper tantrum and stealing cheap shoes and swiping pasties from Greggs.

It’s criminal and embarrassing, but not much more than that. Like the Capitol rioters in the US, these people are incriminating themselves in a very public way. The riots are making the headlines this week, but by next week the story will be about the mass arrests and charges of looting and arson.

^ Even worse, they defend using it, because Pakistan is “where they come from”. Morons.

Let's do a paky run and pick up a grinder!

Interestingly, the last period of serious rioting in the UK occurred in 2011, just one year after the Conservatives ended Labour’s long period in office. Now, Labour has taken over from the Conservatives and some people don’t like it and the same events are occurring. The consequences for the rioters are likely to be similar too.

We got packys all over New England!

Western Europe has to step up and get rid of third world shitbags who do not assimilate and whose sole purpose is destroying their adopted culture and country.

White guilt liberals are committing cultural suicide.

[quote] At least they’re not ripping down statues and throwing them into the Thames because they’re triggering.

Tell me you’re not British without telling me you’re not British.

Just a little extreme shopping.

[quote]White guilt liberals are committing cultural suicide.

White supremacy criminals are committing violent assaults against the police.

Whatevs r34. Get the trash out of your country. You won't have your country left if you're complacent.

By Any Means Necessary.

Seriously. You won't have a country left. At least not one you recognize.

The stabbings in Southport by the 17 year old were a catalyst but I don't think this would have happened without the Manchester Airport incident.

Yes the police officer shouldn't have kicked the guy in the head, but it was clear something serious had gone down before and you had the left wing race baiters calling it a George Floyd moment and celebrity lawyers booking tv appearances to attach the police. Politicians were reassuring "the community" about the incident and putting pressure on the police. And then it turned out the men had attacked the police officers first which was what everyone had suspected. The police office remains suspended but no one has been charged with the assaults on the police officer yet.

So I get why people are angry about that - it does feel like "the community" (Pakistani Muslims) are being treated differently but if you're angry about police getting beaten up, why the fuck are you supporting "protests" that attack the police? Jesus fucking Christ.

And yes there is SO much hypocrisy in looking at how different groups committing the same crimes are treated. But It's quite easy to condemn all sides. Black teenagers ransacking a phone shop? LOCK UP THE CUNTS! White men ransacking a phone shop? LOCK UP THE CUNTS!

If I was advising the far right I'd tell them to use the language of the left. Not "Immigrants out" but "Decolonise Britain". Use slogans like "Resistance by any means necessary", like the people on the Palestine march in London yesterday, where a man stopped by some Jewish protesters and gave a Nazi salute.

Damn, one F/F + block and just like that the thread became sane again. Amazing how that works!

r37 has BLOCKED! Alert the BBC! Alert MSNBC! He is SO IMPORTANT!

^R38,

You must be used to it by now.

This looks [bold]very[/bold] scary. The black man was lucky the police arrived otherwise the crowd would have kicked him to death.

Ralph- You’re a regular RIOT Alice!

R40- I hate the lower classes and loathe the upper class too.

R38 ACTUALLY, we appreciate the heads up from R37. Cuts down on the crazy.

A lot of posts on here are coming from an American perspective. Millions of people in the UK have grown up with Muslim friends and neighbours, going back many years. A tiny minority does not represent or define them.

Some of the takes I'm seeing on Twitter are just insane, including

1. It's the Jews/Israel behind this

2. Left wing agitators saying this is staged to launch a mass clampdown on muslims

3. These riots will be used as cover for mass deportation of muslims

Twitter really encourages people to take an absolute view rather than acknowledge two things can be right at the same time.

Leanne of Leanne’s Removals has made herself twitter-famous by playing Fuck Around and Find Out: UK Edition.

Oh, please! Do not be ridiculous: these riots are caused by the fact that the Tories have driven down living standards since they came to power in 2010, which has mostly gone unchallenged by Labour. The only one who tried to put a stop to their greed, corruption and abuses of power was Jeremy Corbyn, and he was relentlessly vilified in the media and was sabotaged by many powerful members of his own party who are Conservatives in all but name, such as the dastardly Keir Starmer.

The poor and the working class are suffering enormously and they are publicly expressing their anger, which sadly has taken a dangerously xenophobic turn. Putin has nothing to do with this, because he isn't responsible for the austerity imposed by the Tories with the tacit agreement of Labour elites. I know that blaming Russia and China for everything has become fashionable since the repulsively evil Killary Cunton lost the US presidential election in 2016, but these accusations are becoming little more than collective hysteria... Oh, and by the way: Killary lost became the Electoral College gave the victory to Trump, even though she had received more votes. The Russian state had nothing to do with this.

Hi Owen (R47)!

[quote]Western Europe has to step up and get rid of third world shitbags who do not assimilate and whose sole purpose is destroying their adopted culture and country.

Just repeating for R31 and the rest of the remedial reading class: the perpetrator was born in Cardiff, the capital of Wales. Are you perhaps suggesting he can't assimilate to England?

The post at R47 was not written by British person with English as their first language.

From the BBC update today in Rotherham, most famous for the grooming gang scandal where 1000s of young girls were raped by Pakistani Muslim gangs

There are around 100 demonstrators supporting refugees and asylum seekers outside a Holiday Inn Express Hotel on the outskirts of Rotherham in south Yorkshire. The hotel is believed to house asylum seekers.

The crowd has been chanting, “say it loud, say it clear, refugees are welcome here.”

But in the last half an hour, a larger number of people opposing the asylum seekers have arrived in the hotel car park.

Many of them are waving St George and Union flags. They’ve been chanting, “You’re not welcome anymore” and some of them are wearing masks.

There’s also a large group of onlookers, many of them shoppers from the Aldi supermarket opposite, who are watching events.

A large police presence, which includes some officers on horseback, is also here.

The rival demonstrators are being kept apart by an island of purple barriers. Other than some angry chanting, for now, there hasn’t been much trouble.

Awfu.

That is rather rich coming from someone who doesn't know that an indefinite article must be placed before a person or thing that is not identified or specified, R50.

Was I wrong R52? Does that read like something written by *A* British person with English as their first language?

These rabble rousers appear to be the UK’s version of the J6 insurrectionists.

They dgaf about those three little girls. They’re a group of violent xenophobes, is all.

Im Cuban, of Spanish origin. If you don’t believe what will happen to Europe in 50 years, I want you to google Cuba/Havana in the fifties and then compare it to the most recent ones 2024. Get a clue.

Yes, R55. Because surely, we all know Cuba was infiltrated by millions of Muslims who forced Castro’s hand into making Cuba, a country stuck in a living, breathing time capsule… yes?

R47: regardless how you might feel about Hillary Clinton, referring to her as "Killary" ("Cunton" or otherwise) does not make you look like a serious-minded or credible person. People will be inclined to dismiss the rest of your post. Most of us are able to view her objectively, warts and all, but at least maintain a neutral tone when talking about her (in any case, she's becoming increasingly irrelevant).

R56 as a Cuban and European citizen of Spain I would not like to see my homeland Spain as another Cuba, the country where I was born. Yes, Cuba is the perfect example of what a demographic change looks like after only fifty year.

[quote]These rabble rousers appear to be the UK’s version of the J6 insurrectionists. They dgaf about those three little girls. They’re a group of violent xenophobes, is all.

It's impossible to justify the rioting but to put this into some context.

1. It's hot and sunny, the school holidays have started and there's a lot of alcohol and coked up angry men involved.

2. Most of these areas are poor working class areas and the white working class there are generally common no frills people who have felt ignored for years and who haven't benefitted from membership of the EU, migration etc. A times it has felt they are despised by the establishment, sneered at and even pitied. Told "you're too stupid to vote".

3. They see immigrants as being prioritised over them and they feel muslims have more rights, are pandered to more than they are. I'm not sure this is true but the Manchester Airport incident felt like this was true. Another example was the way Kate Forbes was treated in the SNP leadership contest. She's a socially conservative Christian who has never tried to change party policy on social issues but was vilified for her believes. Whereas Muslim Humza Yousaf was lionised because of his faith by the same people, even when he shared an official photo of him and his male relatives praying in Bute House.

4. There was no real issue with the huge number of Ukrainian refugees who came to the UK over the last 2 years, in fact left wing Channel 4 news tried to create a story that Ukrainian refugees are racist after one family apparently said they didn't want to live in an area with black people. But the images of the large number of boat crossings, most of which are young men, really grinds people's gears. There is a patronising attitude towards critics of the boat crossings when they ask "but why can't they stay in France, a safe country".

5. There's also a media trust issue. where cover ups and skewed reporting has been blatant and people are turning away from mainstream media and just consuming "news" and opinions that reinforce their views. Tweets and clips go viral from "media personalities" who are increasingly desperate for attention and who just love race baiting, whether right wing or left wing. This amplifies the "they hate us" mentality.

6. Some people are just racist.

Again none of that justifies any of the violence and intimidation and the people out on the streets are generally cunts.

It seems like the lower class English are prone to rioting and impulsive violence.

I remember many years ago hoards of lower class English going insane and accusing innocent families of being involved with the James Bulgar kidnapping and murder.

R60 Maybe that's because the lower classes have to interact the most with the unwashed immigrants.

Stupid thugs gonna stupid thug.

No, R60, they're hooligans and they're trash.

England has a very violent side to its culture. The most obvious examples, football riots and gangs of drunks lads assaulting any body they think they can get away with assaulting. Old men handicapped people anybody will do as long as they can't fight back. If you want to get mugged and assaulted England is the best place to do it. The football games have police on the trains all the way from the suburbs to the stadium. Once at the stadium there are lines of police between the supporters who are segregated to each side of the stadium with their own side.

[quote]Just repeating for [R31] and the rest of the remedial reading class: the perpetrator was born in Cardiff, the capital of Wales. Are you perhaps suggesting he can't assimilate to England?

The children of these third world immigrants are often even more radical than their parents. They love the benefits of living in the West but hate everything else about it.

[quote]England has a very violent side to its culture.

Every culture on Earth has a violent side.

Just seen a tweet from a left wing progressive complaining about the lack of police action only for the first reply to be screengrabs of all of their "defund the police" arguments.

Lots of stabbings. Savage.

[quote]Whatevs R34. Get the trash out of your country. You won't have your country left if you're complacent. By Any Means Necessary. Seriously. You won't have a country left. At least not one you recognize.

We've heard this all before and you are just parroting it, R35.

Trump on January 6th: [italic]"If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore"[/italic]

Trump before the 2022 midterm elections: "[italic] If you want to continue this national catastrophe, vote for the radical left Democrat. Let's do it, go ahead. You won't have a country left."[/italic]

Its right out of the fear-mongering far-right's playbook to sow division and when the situation escalates, come up with some excuse to justify any violence they commit.

R69 and it works so well on so many. Why is that? That is the question we have to ask ourselves and be ready to accept the answer no matter how uncomfortable it makes us.

I knew instantly who DL was going to side with. No wonder there were so many gays who were NAZIS in Germany.

r47 is so right to call her "Killary." She killed so many people during her terms as Secretary of State, Senator, and First Lady. Once as First lady she shot the East Wing's Chief of Protocol just to watch her bleed to death!

And of course she remains such an ever-active threat to America in the eight years since she retired from politics.

So you do not seem crazy at all, r47. You seem like the sanest person in the forum!

[quote]England has a very violent side to its culture.

[quote]Every culture on Earth has a violent side.

There's a bloodthirsty streak among segments of the English population that is evident from their "naming and shaming" culture, egged on by the red-top newspapers (formerly known as 'tabloids'). The now-defunct Sunday News of the World (under the heading 'Name and Shame') would run photographs and whereabouts of men convicted of molesting children who had been released from prison. As abhorrent as those sex offenders are, you can wonder how responsible it is for media outlets to encourage members of the public to go into their neighbourhoods and commit potential violence. See also: the Jamie Bulger killers. This blood-thirsty culture is absent in other civilized (European) countries. The Netherlands, France, Denmark, Spain, Belgium, and other countries don't have the sort of lurid tabloid culture that Britain does (at least not at that base level), presumably because general levels of education among their populations are slightly higher.

One of the most vivid, graphic descriptions of English violence can be found in Bill Buford's 1990 account of English hooligan subculture (he spent seven years with a group of them), "Among the Thugs." I read it more than 30 years ago and still remember the scene where hundreds of English men descend on Turin, Italy and collectively smash up the beautiful city centre.

[quote]The children of these third world immigrants are often even more radical than their parents. They love the benefits of living in the West but hate everything else about it.

So that justifies the violence, looting, police officers being attacked and the intimidation of anyone or group they don't like?

Well what do you want us to do R74? Buy them the knives?

[quote][R47] is so right to call her "Killary."

The use of infantile nicknames (a la Trump and Fox viewers) do nothing for your credibility.

LOL. R76 complaining about nicknames has probably typed Dump 428 times.

Try never, R77. Political nicknames are lame as hell.

The Sun and The Daily Mirror make the most sensationalist of the Dutch daily newspapers, De Telegraaf, look like the Times Literary Supplement.

The Former First Minister of Scotland is suggesting sending the army in to calm things down.

[quote] Well what do you want us to do [R74]? Buy them the knives?

This is parody, right? Do I laugh at your comment or at you?

I don't care about the prisspot objections to "Killary," but it is a clear sign that the poster is a Putinista whore who hates her because she despises Putin and loves Trump for loving Putin. That is the extent of it, and I don't know why anybody is looking for any deeper meaning from that cunt.

The former First Minister of Scotland is a race baiter and has main player syndrome.

There are lots of people who could try and calm things down but Yousaf knows he can cause more division.

A outsider's question for anyone from or familiar with the UK:

If supporters of the far-right were able to hold these 'protests' in multiple cities across the UK with the Southport incident as a pretext, where were they during last month's election? If they hold such strong views on immigration to the point of riots, you'd think they would have been highly motivated to turn out and back the far-right parties, who didn't perform as I understand it? Or are they just the subset of the population that isn't politically inclined and don't usually vote?

I'm just trying to understand the situation and how it came to this.

*who didn't perform well as I understand it?

r84 They actually did vote in large numbers to be fair to the knuckle draggers. If the UK's electoral system wasn't... Lets say unique. Reform (the current far right party and Nigel's new way to ruin the country) would have been the third biggest party in parliament due to the vote share

[quote] Lots of stabbings. Savage.

As we were warned years ago.

[quote]The Former First Minister of Scotland is suggesting sending the army in to calm things down.

How will they stay off the booze long enough?

[quote]If supporters of the far-right were able to hold these 'protests' in multiple cities across the UK with the Southport incident as a pretext, where were they during last month's election? If they hold such strong views on immigration to the point of riots, you'd think they would have been highly motivated to turn out and back the far-right parties, who didn't perform as I understand it? Or are they just the subset of the population that isn't politically inclined and don't usually vote?

The Nigel Farage populist party came 3rd in election so people had a chance to protest and vote for them then. Farage's Reform party got 4 million votes, 14% of votes but only 5 seats out of 650.

Why now?

4th July - general election

18th July - riots in Leeds by Romanian traveller communities

23rd July - Manchester Airport incident - video of police kicking man's head

27th July - Manchester Airport incident - video of police being attacked by Asian men before one of the police officers kicked the man's head

29th July - Southport stabbing

31st July - Southend violence (not far right related)

So what happened with this Manchester airport thing?

A video was released of some sort of fight where a young Pakistani man was lying on the floor and a police officer kicked him in the head. There were 2 other officers in the scene, blood on the floor, there had been some kind of disturbance but there was no footage of what happened.

The narrative became that the police had violently assaulted these innocent Asian men, assaulted their mother, it was a British George Floyd moment. Celebrity commentators were all over the media offering their judgment. Politicians were saying how awful it was and how they needed to support "the community". A march of Muslim men ended up at the local police station. Politicians who held back and said we should wait for more information we attacked for being part of the problem. Celebrity lawyers were quick to sign up the poor innocent victims. The police officer was duly suspended and there were calls for him to be charged with attempted murder.

Some MPs from the Farage populist party celebrated the police kicking the guy regardless of the context.

And then the footage from the airport was leaked. It clearly showed an incident where the two Asian men brutally attacked the police, punching female officers in the face, leaving one officer standing. The male officer was punched repeatedly and when the guy was on the floor that's when he kicked him in the head.

The kick was done in anger but the police officer was the victim of a vicious assault.

After another gold for the Philippines in gymnastics another British Filipino is in a final, this time the 100m

Louie Hinchliffe is the funny looking lad with the hideous mullet and is coached by Carl Lewis.

Thanks, r91

The Reform/EDL/“Tommy Robinson” crowd wants to have it both ways.

When immigrants commit crimes, that’s proof they aren’t compatible with their society.

When people who hate immigrants commit crimes, that’s *also* proof immigrants aren’t compatible with their society.

Now Elon Musk is proclaiming that “civil war is inevitable” in the UK.

MARY!

Stephen Yaxley Lennon is race baiting arsehole and there are many on left who also want it both ways.

When young black men terrorised the public in 2011, attacking people in the street, burning down buildings, looting, robbing, there were those who defended their actions on the grounds that they were somehow forced into it by economic circumstances.

Both positions are repulsive. People chose to riot, to loot, and should be punished accordingly.

This is like a Northern thing, right?

Keep calling each and every single person that opposes uncontrolled Muslim migration far right. It will only make it less and less offensive and trivial and more people identifying with it.

More and more, more and more, gays and lesbians are voting for le Pen in France and Vox in Spain. And you know what is sad about it? That they have been pushed to it, almost to vote against their own interests. But when you have a case like my Cuban friend whose husband is a native French, being harassed and attacked because of being gay by Muslims, guess what, you start questioning your liberal views. This is what the real extreme right wing ideology makers and programmers want. They want people to associate progressive views with Islamization, etc. they know that most people do not care about gays or even trans, but this is without a thought, a winning issue, and trust me, they will win.

We need strong pro gay marriage anti Muslim inmigration political parties. If not, gays will be the ones to be blamed 50 years from now of the destruction of “western civilization “ and the liberals. While the Eastern European countries with their anti gay, illiberal and theocratic governments flourish and prosper in an all white society without Arabs and sub Saharan people. This is just starting and we haven’t even arrived to the tipping point yet. The future does not look good for gays, especially in Europe. The Americas will be once again a safe haven for European gays and lesbians as this is not going to happen in the united state and Latin America countries to the extent that it will in Western Europe.

[quote]Keep calling each and every single person that opposes uncontrolled Muslim migration far right. It will only make it less and less offensive and trivial and more people identifying with it.

Babe - these "protesters" aka rioters are burning down libraries, local law centres and they tried to burn down a hotel housing refugees. They smashed a garden wall to get bricks they could throw at the police guarding a mosque.

Not wanting Islamic cultures made normal in Britain is not far right - trying to kill muslims because of their religion is far right.

[Quote] It's the unfettered migration that's the problem.

The instant that a migrant or son of a migrant commits a crime, it’s “they’re all this way, kill them all and keep them out.”

When a native born commits a crime, those same people shrug and give various social reasons/excuses for it. It’s absolutely human nature at work, tribal othering, 100%.

The Premier League season begins on August 16 - gonna be wild!⚽️

Oy!

The Premier League isn't the problem, other than some coked up Chelsea fans wanting a fight on match day.

It's the Championship and League One and Two clubs that will be a tinderbox

Bless your heart, r76. That went right over your head, didn't it?

Look at the average person who calls Hillary "Killary" and see if you want to be associated with that.

No, R97. Bristol was one of the cities where there’s been violence and Bristol isn’t oop North.

[quote]That went right over your head, didn't it?

No--I can just about imagine what tired theories you subscribe to. I chose to ignore that part. What is annoying to me is the mindless parroting by people here of "Killary," "the Clinton body count," etc. It reveals an uncreative, bovine mind. Like yours, perhaps?

You people realize the likelihood of this happening in the US is extremely likely. All it will take is another migrant linked well publicized murder to take people over the edge. Ms. Harris should take note what's happening in England and adjust her border control policy accordingly.

R107: Yup. Read the long background article on The Proud Boys in the current issue of The Economist.

The long, hot summer …

At least we have guns. British police are neutered.

Here's a brilliant breakdown by George Galloway.

I’ve seen “Free Tommy Robinson” graffiti in the U.S.

As a person who's had many dealings with Muslims, I can say that most of them are total cunts with huge entitlement issues.

He ought to be freed from what, R112? His shameless opportunism, egomania and thuggery? He is an utter and complete idiot and someone utterly unworthy of attention.

City on fire!

R107 I take your point and we should be concerned BUT there have already been crimes commited by migrants, even some who are here illegally, and afaik, it hasn't resulted in riots.

The thing about the US is there are so so so many murders and shootings, that it's hard to pick one and go apeshit - especially if you're a rightwinger who is extremely worried about gun laws coming into effect if too big a deal is made about shootings.

But yeah, I know if could happen. Hell, we could have just as violent a reaction if Trump loses. It's baked in for Americans to expect violence.

^my next musical!

What kind of dealings have you had r113? Why so many? Is this the nature of your business? Is it a cuntish business where everybody tends to be an asshole, or something different?

I just saw a video in YouTube and of course, there it was, the rainbow flag on the far left anti protest. I just can’t understand why some of these people are always looking to represent and talk on behalf of a group of people whose only thing in common is that they get sexually aroused with the same sex. It blows my mind. What exactly makes them believe that they have that right?the Queers Palestine crap, BLM, now on this shit too, it is getting comical at this point.

From a Guardian report about the attempted mass murder of migrants at a hotel in Rotherham:

[quote] Some parents had brought their children, who could be seen throwing stones at the riot police.

[quote] I just saw a video in YouTube and of course, there it was, the rainbow flag on the far left anti protest. I just can’t understand why some of these people are always looking to represent and talk on behalf of a group of people whose only thing in common is that they get sexually aroused with the same sex. It blows my mind. What exactly makes them believe that they have that right?the Queers Palestine crap, BLM, now on this shit too, it is getting comical at this point.

There is a group called Stand Up To Racism which is protesting these protests who produce a lot of the signs you can see people holding. They’re closely linked to Socialist Worker who also produce branded posters for the protests.

It’s an organisation run by the far left who are repulsive Jew haters and protect sexual predators who are part of the group. They’re a bunch of cranks.

And does the person posting the video of George Galloway have any idea who he is? One of the most despised race baiters in Britain who whips up hate against women and gay people to get votes from muslims?

It really doesn’t help that the Home Secretary was interviewed BY HER HUSBAND about the riots and the government’s response.

Don’t the producers appreciate how bad it looks?

Deport perp's family and relatives.

R124,

They did nothing.

I think the same act involving black children killed by a Hispanic might be more likely to ignite issues,. Most cities in the US don’t have angry white MAGA types.

…an illegal entry Hispanic:…

This whole thing about the killer being born in Cardiff, as if we’re talking about a ginger, pale boy called Neil or Henry.

I am a nurse in the NHS. This is beyond any understanding. The NHS relies on Filipino nurses in many areas because there is a recruitment and retention crisis. I have always found them to be excellent and dedicated workers. They do not deserve this.

Cardiff’s old dock area has been a multi-ethnic community since the 19th century, when Somali and Yemeni sailors married local women and settled down in the area.

[quote] Cardiff’s old dock area has been a multi-ethnic community since the 19th century, when Somali and Yemeni sailors married local women and settled down in the area.

Yep - people think Windrush was the start of the ‘black community’ in the UK.

There is also historical tension in Cardiff between African and West Indian heritage communities. The strongest anti Somali comments have been from middle class 3rd generation West Indian Cardiffians who think Somalis are lazy entitled spongers who breed like rabbits.

And let’s not mention the tension between Indian and Pakistani communities in Riverside and Grangetown.

The UK is a writhing cesspool

This thread is a writhing cesspool

^ There are too many people with axes to grind. The fact is that three little girls were murdered by a mentally unwell youth, but the far right has turned it into a crusade for the underclass who feel ignored by society.

Well, well, well.

Note the source.

Having every minority constantly overrepresented in the media over there is not helping anyone. All it's doing is generating hate and paranoia.

I do have a feeling things are going to simmer down considerably over the next 24 hours. Once people have let out their rage it will subside.

From the Daily Mail, which I won’t link to… of course someone here will defend this.

“Far-right mobs in Middlesbrough stopped people to ask them if they are 'white and English' before letting them through as vile riots continue to sweep the nation.

“Unsettling video shows thugs standing at a crossroads and confronting drivers in cars as they tried to pass.”

My thoughts exactly, R138

Medal table update

China (21) retake the lead over the USA (19) with 2 more golds.

Australia's (13) kayaking gold takes them above France (12), and South Korea (11) overtake Team GB (10) who are ahead of Japan (10) on silver medals.

This has been brewing since before Brexit. There were ignorant people who believed that it would result in mass deportations of EU citizens. When that didn’t happen, their deeper prejudices spilled over. All stoked by the likes of Farage and “Tommy Robinson”. I hate what has happened to the UK.

But what happened after the Brexit vote that would have made common people angry R142?

Being told repeatedly by posh people that they were too stupid to know what they were voting for?

Being told they needed to vote again so they could change their minds?

Being told by the both right wing and Labour that the best deal negotiated wasn't good enough so we ended up with the worst possible action?

Being told that immigration would come down when it has gone up?

Being told it's their fault pro EU people have to wait an extra 30 minutes in airport passport checks when they themselves can't afford to go on holiday?

And it goes without saying that none of the above points justify rioting, looting or any criminal behaviour in any way.

And Starmer gets it. Many in Labour now get it.

Gone are the days of Ed Miliband saying he feels "respect" when he sees a white van, FFS.

The Conservatives spent 14 years in power actively complaining that immigration was a great social evil, and simultaneously doing nothing at all effective to reduce it. There is no greater way of destroying trust in politics while simultaneously poisoning community relations.

And, of course, the Tory press will now lay the blame for the riots on the Labour, which has been inpower for 6 weeks.

R145 - do you think there is any downside to the immigration numbers the UK has seen over the last 14 years? Start from a place that we blame it all on the Tories, but what negative impacts might the poorest in the UK might experience?

The Fuck Around stage will abate now that the Find Out stage is becoming enjoyably apparent.

R146, I think immigration can be a good or a bad thing depending on how it is controlled. Boat loads of young men being smuggled in are bad. However, I know from experience that the NHS would fall apart without the nurses, doctors and auxiliary staff it has employed from across the globe.

Blaming immigrants for poverty in Britain’ poorest places is a fallacy though. The Cameron/Osborne government used the financial crisis as an excuse to try to shrink the size of the state. And by imposing austerity, it killed off he economic recovery which was beginning as they came into power. And the poorest paid the biggest price.

I have nothing at all against immigration controls, but we have had the worst of all possible worlds: a governing party which not only failed to discuss the benefits we get from immigration, but which has actually portrayed it as an existential threat while at the same time utterly failing to reduce the numbers coming in.

[quote] Here's a brilliant breakdown by George Galloway.

George Galloway is a pro-Putin Jew hater. Fuck you.

Like the Capitol rioters, many of these people acted because they were convinced that they had safety in numbers, but it was always obvious that the police would pursue them individually after the event. And many of the accused are not prepared for what’s coming.

The courts are going to remand a lot of them, which means an initial month in jail, even if they then get a lesser sentence. Curtis, below, swung a big stick and is now going to jail while calling for his mummy.

George Galloway is in desperate need of attention, having lost his seat in Parliament after just a few weeks. There is a name for people like him, and it rhymes with cunt.

[quote]The UK is a writhing cesspool

When Rishi Sunak lost the election he conceded on the night, and later in The Commons with a gracious witty generous speech. He didn't enable and unleash rioters ready and willing to smash up the House of Commons where inhabitants of all kinds cowered in their rooms fearing death. Nor would he have ever called such rioters 'patriots.'

The brave police in the UK held the line as best they could. Moronic rioters who claim they 'want their country back' demonstrate this by attacking - the police. What a brilliant strategy. As in the US they will all be meticulously picked out on media, then named and shamed in the press across the next months and years. But none of them can claim to have been incited by a criminal ex-leader insanely unable to accept electoral defeat.

[quote]Having every minority constantly overrepresented in the media over there is not helping anyone. All it's doing is generating hate and paranoia.

Are you certain that's the reason for the unrest, R137? Are you 4imprint certain?

But seriously, what do you want done. Ethnically cleanse the media and bar minorities from reporting the news? Let me guess, they were all put there based solely on their race/ethnic background and aren't "qualified" enough for those jobs. Sounds like the blatantly racist, every minority in positions of power are just "DEI hires" bullshit going on in the U.S. Returning to the 1950s isn't going to happen. Immigrants and minorities can't be legislated, deported or marginalized out of existence.

And as far as generating hate and paranoia, the one's hurling racist slurs, looting and confronting police have been violent far-right extremists who are overwhelmingly White. Its disgusting that so many preople are twisting themselves in knots to try and portray this behavior as somehow justified and a legitimate response from those who are simply fed up.

Why weren’t white mobs rioting when the UK had a wog PM? Talk about “overrepresentation”!

You have 66 million people packed onto an island roughly the size of Michigan. There needs to be more immigration control.

Oh you flabby hypocrites!

The death of George Floyd in 2020 and the insane riots and destruction it caused.

Only non-whites are allowed to riot?

When whites riot it's racist?

Got it.

Sky News were doing a live broadcast tonight from one of the riot sites when some men approached the camera and started screaming FUCK ISRAEL at the journalist and they cut it off short.

As an American, you got us there, R152. You still have a political system where, though far from perfect, is still based on the principles of accepting the will of the people. The defeated party concedes defeat, becomes the opposition and will try to do better in the next election. You also don't have a two-party system where one of the major political parties has basically become a cult of personality whose supporters are already showing signs that they aren't going to accept the election outcome unless they win.

It is a shame that if this happened in the U.S., I wouldn't be surprised at all. The likely difference is that the 150 or so arrests in the U.K. would be 150 or so injuries and deaths in the U.S.

A man from Liverpool has appeared in court charged with burglary after the library was burned down.

This is his 16th conviction for 26 offences.

The main issue with immigration is that:

1) The number of refugees has been grossly overrepresented by the sensationalist press, which has often equated them to undocumented immigrants, foreigners who commit crimes and radical Muslims. This could have easily been clarified by the government, but no effort is made because to do so because it might be convenient for politicians to attack specific communities at any given time; just look at how the Tories have relentlessly attacked EU citizens, Africans, Muslims and Syrians, and Keir Starmer recently targeted Bangladeshis.

2) Various political factions have turned immigrants into a weapon that they constantly use against each other, while deliberately hiding the fact that a large immigrant population limits the bargaining power of the entire working class (which includes the very immigrants being demonized), and increases the power and privileges of the elites by lowering wages and living standards.

3) Neoliberal policies dictate that basic services must be reduced to minimums or privatized, which is effectively what has been happening over the las three decades. The government keeps investing less and less in these services and blames immigrants for this, deliberating obscuring the fact that it's the government itself that isn't adjusting funding according to a fluctuating population, and assigning contracts to their friends and sponsors among the aforementioned elites.

4) Many areas are afflicted by permanent economic degradation and not a single program has been developed to genuinely help them, because they are deemed to be electorally unimportant. This, paired with the media's tendency to anathematize foreigners, has promoted the spurious notion that immigrants get everything as long as they're dark and the poor get nothing if they are white. In reality, the poor are powerless and vulnerable to scarcity regardless of their skin colour.

5) Racism and xenophobia are real issues. While many people dare not openly state it, they feel that they should be privileged because they're British, while immigrants ought to live in increasing poverty according to their origins. It would be worth noticing that many non-Caucasian British communities hold these views as well, which is why they felt extremely threatened by the arrival of Central and Eastern European immigrants and voted for Brexit en masse.

The yobs who have engaged in vandalistic acts are a product of the unfair economic system in which we live, media manipulation, government corruption and post-imperial anguish. Not acknowledging this and pretending that they're just racist neo-Nazis is absurd.

R160

Should the Chinese be privileged citizens in China?

Should Nigerians be privileged in Nigeria?

Just asking...

This is clearly behavior exhibited by crazed white people only. When a Moslem commits a crime in India or one member of any African tribes commits a crime against another all is quiet. No conflict at all. Look around at the world and stop being surprised because your world is cruel .

[quote]The yobs who have engaged in vandalistic acts are a product of the unfair economic system in which we live, media manipulation, government corruption and post-imperial anguish. Not acknowledging this and pretending that they're just racist neo-Nazis is absurd.

The protestors are a motley crew, and (as we've seen upthread) neo-Nazis and other hate groups are indeed in the mix.

R160 and don’t forget the thousands of homeless people sleeping on the streets in pretty much all areas of the UK these days, most of them white and UK born, whilst the mostly young male economic refugees who arrive by boat everyday are living in nice hotels with food provided.

Fuck right off with your shit show white privileged accusations. Go try sleeping on the streets for a few weeks and then tell us how you feel about the young healthy male refugees who’ve paid fuck all into the system, and many of them are here just to milk the system and to avoid going to war in their own countries. The UK has been a soft touch for too long, and that’s the reason they cross over several other safe countries in or to travel here.

Almost all of them would kick your head in for being gay.

First of all R164, I have never said that white people are innately privileged - have you read at all the parts when I was talking about white poverty, all the poor being powerless and non-Caucasian Brits also feeling threatened by immigration?

Moreover, I STRONGLY doubt that the homeless were the ones rioting, or that the people rioting have ever done shit for anyone but themselves. The homelessness issue is VERY serious indeed, but something tells me that the people setting fire to libraries, smashing hotel windows, attacking black men by dragging them out of their cars and engaging in shameful acts of vandalism, aren't exactly volunteering in soup kitchens or donating to Shelter.

Moreover, do you think that those yobs wouldn't kick our heads in for being gay if they could get away with it? Many of them only talk about homophobia because they can use it to attack Muslims, but they're not exactly gay-friendly themselves. Oh, and please tell me where have I EVER justified Islamism or held Muslims blameless for the many problems they have caused?

Still, demonizing everyone and claiming that those who are one step away from homelessness themselves have it super easy, is absurd. The real problem are the industrialists, the bankers and the corporate thieves that control Parliament, because their friends are in power. However, neither you nor those chavs are attacking them, because you know that attacking those bastards has serious consequences. On the other hand, punching someone who is just as powerless as the rest of the working class and has an equally shitty life, but has a different accent or skin colour, is easy and makes them feel better because they're cowards.

Now, that is fucking shameful.

Does that make three areas of protests? More? I'm not familiar with the place names and such, so I can't figure it out.

Probably this guy is a far right racist and homophobic asshole but I find this video quite interesting because it clearly shows what many English people are saying about the two tier systems. I’m not English, but I find outrageous what the police did to peaceful protesters who where just standing by,If the police in the US where to arrest innocent people like these English cops did all hell would break loose.

I don’t understand how an island nation has such difficulty controlling its borders.

We used to be rather good at stopping armadas.

of course being dataloung you won't post any of these.

I guess you're right r171. Just seems to be empty white space.

Looks like idiocy

Public library in Liverpool

[quote]I don’t understand how an island nation has such difficulty controlling its borders.

Have you heard of the "small boat crossings"?

Large groups of mostly young men pay criminal gangs to be taken from France to England across the English Channel (about 20 miles) where they claim asylum In 2023 there were nearly 30,000 small boat crossings, down from 46,000 in 2022.

Legitimate concerns, r174!

LEGITIMATE CONCERNS!

I’m surprised one of the world’s oldest and greatest navies can’t adequately patrol its southern coast.

probably because the UK is a cesspool

R176, I posted earlier that the man charged in connection with Liverpool library is a career criminal with 16 convictions. He might not be far right, he might not be a racist, but he is a career criminal.

In an effort to calm things down the Scottish Pakistani version of Jimmy McGill held a press conference with the Pakistani family who attacked the police officers in Manchester Airport and complained that his clients had been subject to racist abuse and that the men who attacked the police officers want to be police officers themselves.

Feels like a lot of people are disappointed there haven't been mass riots this evening.

The photos of the anti racism, anti fascist "anti Zionist" counter protests have been quite nauseating - these people really are relaxed about Jew hate.

And some celebrities wrote a letter saying racism is bad

The rioters are having second thoughts because the state has asserted itself. Hundreds of rioters who thought they had immunity due to the numbers of them involved are learning that the courts are going to hold them accountable very swiftly.

We're working around the clock online to agitate and recruit.

R23, R24 and R25, thank you for answering my question.

[quote]the courts are going to hold them accountable very swiftly

Swiftly and steadily across the following months. Those three charmless mugshots led the news bulletins as the poster boys for what will befall hundreds more. Many can, as an official said, 'expect a knock on the door.' Many more will be crying for their Mummy in court. Ruined lives and jail time in overcrowded prisons deserved in full.

Fair play to Starmer, he is really throwing the book at them, just as Cameron did after the 2011 riots. Arrested, put on remand and sentenced to jail with a few days. They will have plenty of time now to reflect on how they have shamed themselves, their families and also their, neighbours, friends and everyone else in their communities.

I bet they now really regret those few hours of caveman behaviour. There must be many others dreading the knock on the door, especially now the newspapers are posting a rouges gallery of camera and cctv mugshots.

Expect a lot more of this under a Labour government.

R186 The worst riots were all under a Tory government, Joey Deacon.

2011 - David Cameron

1981 - Margaret Thatcher

No riots between 1997-2010, the last time Labour were in power.

Don't know what they are playing at when everyone has a decent phone which can record clear videos, unlike in 2011 when they had to rely more on CCTV to identify the rogues.

Has that moronic schoolgirl from Hull carrying four pairs of Crocs been caught yet?

[QUOTE] I’m surprised one of the world’s oldest and greatest navies can’t adequately patrol its southern coast.

They can and do, but when they intercept a boat in the Channel the French won't allow them to take the migrants back to France. Migrants are fine with being caught on the water as their fears of drowning are then over and they can be processed onto benefits more swiftly.

Oh dear, the Labour councillor who said he wanted to slit the throats of far right protesters and was cheered for it has been arrested!

[quote]Labour councillor who said he wanted to slit the throats of far right protesters and was cheered for it has been arrested!

Great musical, but it's really best not to identify too closely with Sweeney Todd.

Poor Ryan. With good behaviour he'll be out for his 30th birthday.

^^^ 28? That's a rough 28, he looks much older than that. Give the police dog a medal for biting his ass.

The cunt who first shared the fake news about the Southport suspect has been arrested.

These riots are taking place in England. Nothing to do with Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland. It’s all England as usual so not the UK.

It’s a shame they’re not rallying around their nation’s Olympians at this time instead of trying to undermine Labour governance with this racist nonsense. Must we dust off our old 45s of “Ebony & Ivory”?

[quote]These riots are taking place in England. Nothing to do with Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland. It’s all England as usual so not the UK.

I don't know what is more embarrassing - that you didn't know about the riots that have taken place in Belfast over the last week or that you did hear about them but thought Belfast is in England.

As for Wales there was rioting in Cardiff last year and Swansea the year before.

[quote]Oh dear, the Labour councillor who said he wanted to slit the throats of far right protesters and was cheered for it has been arrested!

And he's now been charged with "encouraging violent disorder"

And the woman who launched a wheelie bin set on fire at the police, and accidentally launched herself with it, has been sent to prison.

[quote]And the woman who launched a wheelie bin set on fire at the police, and accidentally launched herself with it, has been sent to prison.

There should have been an additional charge for abuse of a trash receptacle.

R198 that was brilliant…

OMG, she's a mother of FIVE. And a very rough looking 34.

English people now must adapt to their new reality of living in a multicultural society with people 100% contrary to their own culture and every passing year their numbers will increase until they outnumbered the native English people. Wow. Never ever ever they will have a country of their own like they used to in the pass unlike the pakistans and bangladeshes. My advise to them is to start moving into these countries and take hold of some land to create a “New England” in those Asian countries. Those countries must experience what living and respecting people from western societies is like. It is only fair.

Amazing how quickly the wheels of justice are turning, with sentencings made this week.

[quote]until they outnumbered

[quote]Never ever ever they will have a country of their own like they used to in the pass

[quote]My advise to them

Oh dear. But thanks for such useful 'advise.'

It's easy to point out the ridiculousness of R202's "a minority in your own country" view of immigration yet some of the centre left response to ANY concern about immigration is embarrassing and doesn't help.

This week I've seen comments that there is no such thing as British ethnicity, that British ethnicity is just a mix of all the different European nations who invaded Britain and that Britain deserves mass immigration because of the way it colonised the world. Yes most of these people are arseholes desperate for likes on social media but it just creates further division.

During the European championships "progressives" were sharing an image of the England football team highlighting which players were from immigrant families saying SEE IMMIGRATION IS GOOD. It's not that different from the French far right going through the World Cup squad of 1998 and highlighting how many were "foreigners", even though they were born in France and have only ever been French citizens.

I know that public opinion is a lot more nuanced than than either side but the way people are polarising all issues for social media clout is vile.

[quote] The victims are victims, so why should it matter where they were born and their immigration status

It matters because they were specifically targeted for the colour of their skin and background. But you don't like it that way round.

Belfast is actually the worst because there are no counter protests. They're all traumatised by past violence and just cower inside.

Brick Twink In Clink

This should be the image next to the dictionary definition of "troll". Gender TBD.

[quote]A woman who called on Facebook for a mosque to "be blown up with the adults inside" has been jailed for 15 months.

Rapper Lowkey provides an extremely interesting analysis on this phenomenon.

Rapper Lowkey is a Nazi level Jew hatee

[quote]This should be the image next to the dictionary definition of "troll". Gender TBD.

R209 She also fits the definition of "Hag."

Men in 'baying mob' get toughest riot sentences yet:

Southport attack dance teacher readmitted to hospital:

I blame the Britisb government.. They imported the wrong types of people, the ones who hate Western society. Why not recruit people from the Phillipines or Vietnam. They never cause trouble and adapt easily.

If you need immigrants you really should go Asian. Hard workers, love Western culture and adapt right away. Never any problems.

Arabs/North African are always a giant pain in the ass.

[quote]I blame the Britisb government..

I blame the assholes who decided just because they're pissed off that its okay to riot, loot and threaten people. There's no justification for the uncivilized savage behavior we all saw. In the midst of the frenzy, did they forget that they live in a country with the rule of law? Unlike the J6 mob in the U.S., I bet no one is calling them "patriots" and "political prisoners." They're criminals.

[quote]Why not recruit people from the Phillipines or Vietnam. They never cause trouble and adapt easily.

Maybe in the UK that's the case, but California has its fair share of Asian gangs.

[quote]If you need immigrants you really should go Asian. Hard workers, love Western culture and adapt right away. Never any problems. Arabs/North African are always a giant pain in the ass.

"Asian" is a very broad classificaiton.

British Indians have contributed massively to British society and the NHS in particular would be nothing without the several generations who have staffed it. There was a huge GP shortage in the late 50s and 60s and Indian doctors moved to the UK, often to working class industrial areas where white British doctors didn't want to work. The BBC's Indian Doctor series covered this. In the 00s there was a major doctor shortage in these areas because many of the doctors who had come over in their 20s and 30s were finally retiring and again white British doctors didn't want to work in those areas.

Filipino immigration has also been a huge positive over the last few years again with the NHS with nurses, health care support workers filling vacancies.

Indians and Filipinos tend to integrate well and there is a sense they contribute far more than they take and with Sikhs and Hindus they are seen as religious but largely secular.

Pakistanis and Bangladeshis however don't have the same perception, mainly because of the increasingly sectarian view of Islam and a perceived reliance on benefits. Amazing to think that just a month ago there were British politicians from supposedly liberal and left wing parties (SNP, Plaid, Lib Dems, Greens) promoting their endorsement by "the Muslim Vote", an online pressure group which promoted anti gay policies.

r218 "Asian" in the US exclusively means East Asians, or what used to be called "Oriental."

R218, what you say is partly true, but you must also remember that the current staff shortage in the NHS was caused by Brexit, as many EU doctors and nurses left en masse after the vote was confirmed. The sad thing is that many immigrant communities have made enormous contributions to the UK's economic, scientific, cultural and social development and yet, this is entirely overlooked by most people, who rely on xenophobia in order to explain the extreme inequalities that successive governments have foisted upon the nation's working classes; among which, by the way, there is a very large immigrant contingent.

[quote][R218], what you say is partly true, but you must also remember that the current staff shortage in the NHS was caused by Brexit, as many EU doctors and nurses left en masse after the vote was confirmed. The sad thing is that many immigrant communities have made enormous contributions to the UK's economic, scientific, cultural and social development and yet, this is entirely overlooked by most people, who rely on xenophobia in order to explain the extreme inequalities that successive governments have foisted upon the nation's working classes; among which, by the way, there is a very large immigrant contingent.

No, the current shortage of NHS workers was caused by many things, including a compete disinvestment in British people because it is cheaper to get trained foreign staff than to train British born staff, and by that I mean British born staff of all races and classes. Britain leaving the EU didn't stop European people being able to work in Britain, it just made it a bit harder with the paperwork.

Many British Indians and British Africans supported Brexit because white European workers from EU countries were prioritised over those from Commonwealth countries.

But look at the official data of those in work. Indian 77%, higher than the national rate, Asian other (including Filipinos) 71% and Pakistani Bangladeshi at 61%.

70% of British Indian women work compared to 46% of British Pakistani/Bangladeshi.

"White other" would be non British Europeans.

King Charles greeted by crowd in Southport as he meets those affected by attack:

Taylor Swift meets 2 young girls injured in Southport, UK stabbing spree:

Taylor is disgusting. She still hasn't said a single word of comfort to the Austrian fans who had their shows cancelled due to ISIS.

[quote]Taylor is disgusting. She still hasn't said a single word of comfort to the Austrian fans who had their shows cancelled due to ISIS.

How the hell is she disgusting for meeting with those injured children who witnessed and were victims of the Southport stabbings? That doesn't make sense. And why do the Austrian fans need words of comfort? They're getting a refund, there was no terrorist attack (or victims) and the concert can be rescheduled. The two situations aren't comparable.

They're not even getting a full refund. The bitch is keeping 20% of the ticket price.