'Take Your Finger Out Of My Face': Why Meghan Markle Snapped At Prince William

What I actually said was "Get your fucking finger out of my face, you pasty bald piece of shit!"

Say what you will about Meghan, but I absolutely love her for this story.

She really put Baldy in his place.

He's such a fucking asshole, and I think that Harry was loving every minute of William's verbal smack down.

I can believe William put a finger in her face, but I don't believe Kate demanded an apology. She's so jealous of Kate, she can't think straight.

In olden times she would have been executed for such insolence.

I'd have told the fucker to get it out of my face too.

Wow he really married down.

Meghan's remarks about Kate's hormones and having a "baby brain" is the kind of passive/aggressive game women like her play.

This is what Meghan SHOULD HAVE done to William.

Meghan really put him in his place.

I'm sure that's what's really behind his hatred for Harry now.

William isn't used to being told "no," much less being corrected by someone.

Everyone around him kisses his ass, because he's the future King.

But bitch, don't pull that shit with an American. Because we WILL put you right back in your place.

I'm sure this has everything to do with William not "forgiving" Harry.

Harry's wife shamed him.

Would have been better if she said to take your fucking finger out of my face. Triple alliteration with a Tony Montana twist.

[quote]Meghan's remarks about Kate's hormones and having a "baby brain" is the kind of passive/aggressive game women like her play.

Yeah, Meghan can say any nasty, snotty thing she wants to Kate, but if William makes a gesture with his finger, all the loony frauen on DL cheer Meghan on.

How would they like it if a woman co-worker - whom they had just met - told them their opinions were invalid because their hormones were running amok? The resulting tantrums would burn down HR!

I can picture Megan being the type that talks for other people as a way of being friendly and trying to fit in, but it's uncomfortable for the other person because people who do this tend to be know-it-all types who try to establish closeness too soon, and they're usually not even accurate in their assessments (that no one asked for anyway). Most people find it awkward to correct people like her and usually just let it go to try to be nice, but Kate's in a position where it's probably important to establish appropriateness in relationships, and Megan-splaining is something one would want to nip in the bud early on.

*Meghan

Kate is Chav TRASH.

It's rich to see her putting on airs with Meghan.

You can see from this incident, that Kate is the true cunt.

She could have just brushed it off and talked shit behind Meghan's back, like most aristocrats do.

But Kate decided to pull rank, and even brought her husband into this stupid argument.

William and Kate ganged up on Meghan, and Meghan pushed back.

Any one of you cunts would have done the same, and you know it.

He shouldn’t put his finger in her mafuckin face. All these cunts are playing up drama to generate money for tabloid stories and general interests in the Royal Family. They are likely all laughing all the way to the bank.

R6 which one? You aren’t a soft racist internet hider are you?

[quote] He shouldn’t put his finger in her mafuckin face

To me, sticking your finger in someone's face is the MOST RUDE thing you can ever do, and it's just fucking trashy.

No matter what your station in life, you just come across as having no class.

Get her off my screen

Harry's trollop of a wife is a pretentious asshole, coming and going.

Girls, girls, you're both raging assholes.

I honestly cannot decide on a team here. Finger pointing makes me SEE RED.

Probably the only time in William's life that he has ever been TOLD OFF.

I'd have paid money to see that encounter!

Are they still arguing about bridesmaid dresses?

No wonder people think of them as irrelevant.

Laughing all the way to the bank as Brits generously support them with their tax dollars in a shitty economy.

The fact that Markle implied that Kate had cognitive issues (baby brain) and refused to be called the Countess of Dumbarton is telling.

William and Kate have always been annoying, but so are Meghan and Harry.

William seems like a real cunt, though.

Harry’s an idiot and Kate and Meghan are different flavors of the same lazy, gold-digging wife stereotype. Kate manages to dress well, but that’s about it.

[quote] Kate is Chav TRASH.

It's rich to see her putting on airs with Meghan.

R14, be careful! When I dared to post a couple of pics of Kate drunk and bleary-eyed in the back of a car, I got the frauen smack-down. You can't speak ill of her on DL, as she's an icon of sorts. No idea why.

Was expecting something juicy here. What a bunch of MARYS!

You really have to be looking for a problem to take offense at your sister in law making a stupid baby brain comment. Sure, it might be overly casual, but demanding an apology is over the top.

Who knows if the story is even true. It’s a little hard to believe that William would put his finger in someone’s face. I would not have told him to get it out of my face, I would have smacked it out of the way.

Girls, girls! You're both cunts.

But, they didn't give our kids Easter presents... Whaaa, Whaaa!

I would have broken that fucker's finger clean off 😠

Meghan makes an insulting remark, plays it down as “just between friends”, and gets indignant that William brushes off her heartfelt excuse.

^... and proceeds to jam his finger in her face

You forgot that part

Haven’t we been on a great tear of no markle threads?

Oh, please. Probably everyone has to restrain himself from violence when forced to deal with Meghan for an extended period. We've all seen how she acts in public. Can you imagine what she is like in private?

I mean, really?! This all sounds like utter bullshit.

"Willy broke my necklace!"

"William poked his finger in my face!"

These two cunts in Montecito just sit around seething about the most ridiculous things. Did William jab his finger in her face? Highly unlikely. He probably gesticulated in her direction, and she's making it sound like assault. She's the biggest pot stirrer, enabled by her wimpy little pet husband. When will these two simply fuck off and live privately?

@r34, "Can you imagine what she is like in private? "

A lot like you?

" When will these two simply fuck off and live privately? "

When you and the tabloids stop obsessing over them 24/7/365. Did you know that normal people never think about them at all?

[quote] Meghan makes an insulting remark, plays it down as “just between friends”, and gets indignant that William brushes off her heartfelt excuse.

What r31 said. Exactly. Shouldn't the enlightened feminist Markle have known to avoid ascribing "baby brain" to another woman?

But William shouldn't have made that physical gesture and if Markle reacted to it the way it's reported here, well, that's on him and he took the risk of what Markle reportedly dished out to him.

Getting back to Markle. I don't know why I'm surprised, but I truly am.

I thought, at the stage of her life when she met Harry, she had been around the block a few times. I use that phrase in its positive sense.

I'll never get it, therefore, why she wasn't shrewd enough, careful enough, when first being introduced into the BRF, to, of course, be true to herself and BE HERSELF around Harry's immediate family but also, hang back and study everybody, and the environment, at least a bit.

Read the room.

I'll never meet Catherine, Princess of Wales. That's fine. I'm my own Princess.

But just for the sake of a hypothetical scenario, if I was going to meet her and possibly be around her more in a private setting, I wouldn't assume physical and verbal familiarity with her, as it has been reported Markle did.

Why? It's obvious even from just the videos and pix I've seen of her that one of the reasons she is excellent when she is "on duty" is there is no doubt about the line between her public persona and her private one.

Tread, therefore, accordingly around her. Not because you want to kiss her ass. But because you want to preserve your own value to yourself.

Put succinctly, make Kate put the effort into approaching you, knowing you.

And if she doesn't put that effort in, then you know where you stand, where she stands, and you've preserved your dignity.

As for William, Markle never had a chance with him. He disliked her right off the bat, and would have, no matter if Harry had never been born and they had met anyway.

It's true. I started off wanting to like Markle. I watched the wedding and wanted to observe how she played her cards. I've always posted that it wasn't easy for her to have to maneuver in that milieu.

But I developed a dislike of her. I find an off-putting artifice to her personality. She's a phony. And Harry is a fool and would be, even if he had never met Markle.

I doubt this happened - at least as reported - as Kate would have just ignored Meghan and not bothered to respond to her. Again, it's one of those alleged incidents that only the people involved were present at, with no witnesses, so either it's made up or Meghan has leaked her own highly embellished recollection of events.

Lol at the people who think Meghan scored anything over William with this, especially as Harry himself failed big time with his own version of the story. If anything, William wins for standing up for his wife when she's subject to a deranged attack.

It's pretty obvious Markle never got along with William and Kate from the early days. You don't have a confrontation about a "baby brain" remark if things had been fine up until that point.

I suspect both could have made more effort, but Markle seemingly thought the RF was against her and Harry straight away, hence her defensiveness. Even though Harry would have told her what being in the RF entailed, once she actually started living that life, it was pretty clear she couldn't hack it. I can't even blame her; almost no one lives like that now. It would be hard enough for an English person to adjust to (unless from a similar class) let alone an American.

What's clear now is that there's a rift which isn't likely to ever be fully healed, even if Harry and Meghan split up. There's too much bad blood now.

R26, you mean the photos of Kate from 20 years ago when she was a normal young person doing normal young person things, except with cameras being shoved in her face at every turn? Sorry, but all those photos do is make Kate seem genuine and relatable.

@r35, "Did William jab his finger in her face? Highly unlikely"

Yeah, right

R42 doesn't know what jabbing a finger in someone's face means.

Still, the hours and hours of his life he must spend scouring the internet for photos of William and Kate is impressive!

Sparkles' PR said this? I don"t believe a word of it.

[quote] Who knows if the story is even true.

Of course you Kate-STANS never believe anything bad about her or William.

But you're so quick to believe anything bad about Meghan.

Typical STAN behavior. You're just as bad as the deranged Taylor Swift fans. And just as RABID.

[quote] It’s a little hard to believe that William would put his finger in someone’s face.

No, it's really not.

William the terrible is well known for his horribly bad temper.

It has been reported numerous times by the British media itself.

But naturally, the STANS choose to ignore that fact

Again, reading is so fundamental. The original account says William "pointed" at her and Meghan said to get your finger out of my face. The pro-Meghan responders then jump in stating it as though William was in her face.

This is Harry's reported account:

However, everything turned sour when William chimed in and "pointed a finger at Meg" before allegedly saying, "Well, it's rude, Meghan. These things are not done here." Harry noted that Meghan responded, "If you don't mind, keep your finger out of my face."

OUTTA MY FACE! OUTTA MY FACE!

Lol R47!

Markle got caught up in the positive publicity of her first being revealed as Harry girlfriend, then his future bride.

That must've been a heady time for the thirsty Markle. That's not a criticism of her. Why should she be singled out for that in a sea of thirsty celebrities who all are looking for it, from Brad Pitt to Carrot Top?

But, she took the wrong lesson from all her early positive publicity.

I think she actually thought that the BRF would adjust to her notion of Hollywood celebrity, and operate performing her Royal duties from that, rather than her adjust to being a working Royal and their protocols.

She was never going to fit in. She may have if her and Harry had been mature enough to have taken a good look at staying working Royals and determined that they could carve out a place, not in competition to Willaim and Kate, but in providing a positive contrast to them.

Now, she's scrambling around for celebrity relevance, and he was born one, but seems to wish he was anywhere else than California.

What are you talking about, r45? This story doesn't make Kate or William look bad. It makes Meghan look bad. By questioning its veracity, we're giving her the benefit of the doubt.

Nothing you allege about William is backed up by anything.

R11 is a looney frauen herself.

I can’t imagine why anyone would care about any of these cunts. They deserve each other.

Pointing is rude. Who brought William up to point?

[deranged attack.]

Deranged is an awfully strong word for someone suggesting that someone's hormones are working overtime. Pregnant and post partum females can be emotional, hysterical and moody. Post partum depression is a thing. Hell, I'd tell my sister that but aside from that R52 is right. You shouldn't care about these two cunts.

[quote]When you and the tabloids stop obsessing over them 24/7/365. Did you know that normal people never think about them at all?

Truer statement was never made especially the last sentence.

Earlier this year, Kate Middleton was caught up in a firestorm of bad publicity after her Mother’s Day snapshot, taken by Prince William, had noticeable Photoshop errors. At the time, the world didn’t know she was engaged in a cancer battle, and the narrative took on a life of its own. In the wake of the social media fury, the Princess of Wales accepted accountability for her editing errors. Yet the upcoming book, Catherine, the Princess of Wales: A Biography of the Future Queen by Robert Jobson, alleges that William left his wife to fend for herself.

According to an excerpt, obtained by the Daily Mail, William “refused to budge” in taking one for the team with Kate. “His PR team suggested he and Catherine issue a joint statement to help deflect the blame from her. The initial prepared statement used the words ‘we’ and ‘our’, but the prince decided not to release it,” wrote Jobson. Even though the Prince of Wales took the photo, he allowed Kate to take the blame. “After all, it was his wife who’d manipulated the snap and nothing to do with him, and if the press found out that he was covering for the princess, the speculation would only grow. When the statement was finally issued, it came from Catherine alone,” the excerpt reads.

That is quite the allegation from Jobson, and it doesn’t paint William in a very flattering light. Kate’s statement on X seems almost haunting now that the world knows she was going through a health crisis at the time. She wrote, “Like many amateur photographers, I do occasionally experiment with editing. I wanted to express my apologies for any confusion the family photograph we shared yesterday caused. I hope everyone celebrating had a very happy Mother’s Day. C.” It’s confusing as to why Prince William couldn’t share the blame with his wife, who was in a very vulnerable position.

William has been accused before of his “selfish agendas” and “ego” — and it’s not just Prince Harry who has called him out for this. Royal author Omid Scobie told Newsweek in November 2023 that the Prince of Wales often puts himself ahead of even King Charles III. “Despite being fed those lines or the briefings about father and son working in lockstep with one another, we’ve seen father and son on completely different paths at times, with completely different views on things and we haven’t seen them together on engagements,” he claimed.

The future king reportedly believes that his father’s reign is “transitional” or a “bridge” to get to his own time on the throne. But what William may not like to hear is that Kate is considered the real superstar in the royal family. “For many of those in the press,” Scobie wrote in his book, Endgame. “Kate is the monarchy’s last ‘shiny thing’ for many years to come, even more so given William’s slow fade into his staid institutional role and the departure of Harry and Meghan.” No one should take away Kate’s shine, especially her husband.

Does Robert Jobson give any of his sources, r56? Sounds like he's another one of the idiots who doesn't realise that the more they try to attack William and Kate for their own purposes, the more the British and not only public loves and respects them. And William's bet against the British and other scum media won out in the end. The huge pressure the scum media tried to put on him and Kate backfired on the scum media.

Meghan Markle is American. We're a friendly, frank, and opinionated lot. She rubbed them the wrong way, because members of the BRF are reserved, reticent, and guarded.

I lived in London a number of years ago, and reestablished friendships with people whom I had known in my youth. On one occasion, I spent an enjoyable day with one guy I had known for a long time and his wife whom I met that day. When we parted company, I went to kiss her on the cheek. She pulled back. I chalked it up to a propensity of being reserved amongst the English.

[quote] I lived in London a number of years ago, and reestablished friendships with people whom I had known in my youth. On one occasion, I spent an enjoyable day with one guy I had known for a long time and his wife whom I met that day. When we parted company, I went to kiss her on the cheek. She pulled back. I chalked it up to a propensity of being reserved amongst the English.

Tell me about it.

That Camilla is a cold bitch.

Meghan Markle is obnoxious, r58, that's why people don't like her. If it were just a cultural thing then she should surely be popular in the US, or at least understood. But she seems to find it hard to get Americans to like or appreciate her too.

Not wanting to be part of Madame Macron's grandstanding for the cameras isn't being "cold", r59, especially when the actual subject is much bigger than one's ego. Brigitte trying to recreate Mitterrand and Kohl made no sense at all, given that France and Britain weren't enemies in World War Two.

What a misogynistic thing to say of her.

[quote] Does Robert Jobson give any of his sources,

The only source Jobson would have for the baby brain finger-pointing drama would be Harry, since no one other than the four of them was there. Harry's book is alternately dismissed as full of lies and hyperbole or employed as a factual document when hacks like Jobson want to make some money off the BRF.

I've got no dog in the fight but I wouldn't be surprised if William is a real domestic tyrant. Throwing his sick wife under the bus with the photoshopping bruhaha is one sign William refuses to be accused of one false move. I think he's really resenting Kate's popularity just like his Dad resented Diana's.

R60 is proof positive of exactly what R58 is talking about.

And you people are totally clueless about how cold you really are.

But you keep making excuses for it.

I struggle to believe this story because I cannot fathom anyone being so clueless as to point in someone’s face in the middle of a lecture about behavior that is rude.

[quote] I struggle to believe this story because I cannot fathom anyone being so clueless as to point in someone’s face in the middle of a lecture about behavior that is rude.

That is William in a nutshell.

Totally clueless about his own hypocrisy.

Entitled, arrogant and rude.

It’s going to be so sweet when William becomes king and he justifiably strips Harry, Meghan, and their offspring of everything. I hope I live to see that day when good triumphs over the extremely vile Meghan and her stooge husband,

Not a MM fan, but if this is true, good for her. It’s not as if Catherine grew up royal.

Take your finger out of my ass!

[quote] Meghan will reportedly miss out on the trip as she's tied down with work and is busy with the launch of her lifestyle brand, American Riviera Orchard.

Now that’s funny.

[quote] Take your finger out of my ass!

But don't take your dildo out of my ass!

We are only hearing fame-whore Meghan's side of the story.

R14 is correct. Even if one concedes that remarking about hormones to your sister-in-law is an awful breach (which I do not), demanding an apology is catty and pulling rank within the family is a worse offense.

[quote] The last thing she needs is the stress of going back to the UK, where she fears she'd be heckled again in public, which she finds really painful.

What a coward she is. She’s earned every bit of the jeering and loathing good people feel toward her. If she had any integrity, she’d face the music, and accept the well-deserved heckling and rotten eggs that should be hurled at her.

[quote] Meghan Markle is American. We're a friendly, frank, and opinionated lot.

Another extrovert heard from, like Ms “I’m American. We hug!”

No WE all don’t. Especially not virtual strangers.

[quote]But she seems to find it hard to get Americans to like or appreciate her too.

Americans don't pay attention to her period. The only ones obsessed are brf obsessive fraus. Most of this is all manufactured bullshit for consumption by old ladies who still read gossip rags like Hello and buy Golden Jubilee tea towels.

[quote] The only source Jobson would have for the baby brain finger-pointing drama would be Harry, since no one other than the four of them was there

A source does not have to have been in the room. The source can have spoken to someone in the room.

[quote]and pulling rank within the family is a worse offense.

You understand nothing about the Monarchy.

Rank is everything and it must break respected.

^ and it must be respected

I think most American’s would assume that a woman is free to speak intimately to her sister-in-law in private. The idea that such a conversation would be deemed worthy of a demanded apology is quite strange.

It’s a different matter if the remark itself were inherently offensive. We don’t have the context to judge that, but I don’t think there mere suggestion that someone may be influenced by hormones is per se out of line.

Of course it's out of line. "You've got baby brain" is in no way a compliment. It's another way of saying "Well, that was stupid of you."

R53, it runs in the family!

“Baby brain” could be an attack on someone or a defense of someone .

R79, also they may have had a legal sister-in-law relationship but think they were strangers personally .

This story simply repeats what Harry wrote in Spare. He and Meghan are the source. Obviously, their goal throughout the book was to make William and Catherine look as awful as possible.

[quote] [R79], also they may have had a legal sister-in-law relationship but think they were strangers personally .

By the time Harry and Meghan were married, I doubt Meghan and Catherine were strangers.

Meghan is such a tired subject.

The writer of this book is Rob Jobson, a fat old fag who has been pictured practically drooling over Meghan and Harry's favorite "author" Ombid Scoobie-doo. I would take this book with a grain of salt.

[quote]You've got baby brain" is in no way a compliment

The context was Kate herself saying she was forgetful. Meghan was supplying her with an excuse. It was not meant as an insult but Kate was offended by what she considered an inappropriate familiarity by referring to her hormones.

Maybe in reality it wasn't Kate's hormones at all, IT WAS HER CANCER!!!!

[quote] By the time Harry and Meghan were married, I doubt Meghan and Catherine were strangers.

Do you really think they were all hanging out together? Movie nights and pub crawls? No, Kate had two kids and was pregnant with a third. (Yes, yes Nanny Maria). Meghan was flying in every couple months for a long weekend with Harry. I don’t think they met more than a handful of times. But here’s the thing. You can meet someone and right off the bat know you’re not going to be bosum pals. Good manners and polite conversation, sure. Watch the engagement video, the “is he kind?” faux ingenuousness, the hand clutching, and ask yourself if you’d be friends with someone like her.

Americans always lose their minds when they're finger pointed during a scold. In other parts of the world that's just par for the course.

[quote] and pulling rank within the family is a worse offense.

They [italic]literally[/italic] have different ranks. Catherine's rank is always above Meghan's.

This isn't a metaphor.

At the time they were both just sons of the Prince of Wales, the difference in rank being solely based on order of birth. Even if it were more than that, enforcing rank among the immediate family is not necessary when none is the monarch.

Take your finger out of my pussy!

I find Meghan incredibly annoying, but I’m starting really dislike Catherine.

She’s always been a glorified housewife who seems to pride herself on not eating. Nothing to admire there.

Now she’s dragging her husband into cat fights? How trashy.

Yet another thing Catherine can’t do. She couldn’t have her own career, so became a housewife. Can’t really seem to handle royal duties with any regularity (before her illness.) Can’t seem to feed herself. Now she can’t even handle an idiot like Markle without running to her husband.

Not all Americans want to hug and kiss acquaintances and friends.

Some incredibly stupid people on this thread.

How Targaryen of them to let a verbal misunderstanding erupt into a messy public war

Yup, r97

[quote] She couldn’t have her own career, so became a housewife.

So?

I never understood this perspective on woman's rights and feminism that looks down their nose at a woman choosing to be a housewife and/or a mother.

That was never my choice. I'm happily childless and have enjoyed a professional career. But it wouldn't occur to me to knock another woman for wanting to be a housewife and mother. It's about CHOICE.

Properly understood, feminism is about raising consciousness on the patriarchal barriers that should be dismantled so women have the mobility and access to choose to live their lives however they want to, including striving to be the wife of the future King of the UK and Commonwealth realms.

The Royal Family is well rid of the Montecito pair. I do wish The King and his Government would take the final action to remove the Duke and Duchess titles.

The Targaryen misunderstanding was about who had absolute power over an empire. Not really comparable.

What would that accomplish, r100? Even Edward VIII had a Dukedom.

She really is someone who needs to be smacked.

Kate's job may not seem very difficult, but she's not a "housewife." Also, she is now experiencing the downside of her role / job, i.e., having cancer and reporting on it.

[quote] The context was Kate herself saying she was forgetful. Meghan was supplying her with an excuse. It was not meant as an insult but Kate was offended by what she considered an inappropriate familiarity by referring to her hormones.

Which just PROVES that she was being a hormonal crybaby.

Meghan is a girly girl, and that's what they do when around other females. It's a very American thing, even if you don't know each other. They bond over womanhood. It's like "sisters supporting sisters."

Like at that business event Meghan recently attended. It was an all-female function, and that's the kind of things that they would joke around with each other about.

It was an innocent remark that Meghan thought "might" bond her to Kate.

However, she had no idea that Kate would blow the whole fucking thing out of proportion, AND call William in to scold Meghan for it, AND to make her apologize.

I mean, who does that????

Oh, I know who. A spoiled, entitled housewife who thinks she's better than everyone else.

[quote] Americans always lose their minds when they're finger pointed during a scold. In other parts of the world that's just par for the course.

Because sticking your finger in someone's face IS very rude, assholeish behavior.

It's intrusive and it's confrontational, and basically a hostile act.

Anyone who can't see that, is a fucking moron.

What r104 said.

Anybody who thinks that being a working Royal isn't physical, mental and emotional labor doesn't know the meaning of work.

Yeah, noted they have staff and are multi-millionaires if not billionaires when all the properties, art, jewels and shillings are added up, but that doesn't take away from the fact that to be "ON" when in public is a four-letter word - W.O.R.K.

It’s cute that you imagine Meghan has real, long lasting friendships with other women who joke about things like having “baby brains”

Make TEA not war.

Oh bullshit on Markle trying to make a harmless, attempt at bonding remark. Even if viewed in the best possible light, she shouldn't have said it.

In fact, there are a lot of things Markle shouldn't have said.

She's the one who resurrected the cruel, sexist nickname the UK tabloids coined for Kate- "Waity Katie" by deliberately repeating in on the Oprah interview.

Markle tried cloaking her saying it in a sympathetic context : look how mean the UK tabs have been to both of us -but I saw through her Mean Girl indulgence like Saran Wrap.

Markle could have made that point without repeating those two words. But she wanted to humiliate Kate on world-wide television by repeating that slur, knowing how it must sting Kate.

So much for the feminist sisterhood Markle likes to espouse.

You see, Markle Stans? It's not dislike for dislike's sake. There are reasons based upon her own behavior to know Markle for the Mean Girl Phony she is.

I'm convinced that in addition to insinuating bigotry, the Waity Katie thing that is another reason William will never forgive her, although he should.

After all. Markle is now downgraded to a mere striving celebrity, and if there is one thing the future King of the UK can be, it's magnanimous.

[quote] but that doesn't take away from the fact that to be "ON" when in public is a four-letter word - W.O.R.K.

And they are in public several times a month! I don’t know how they handle the stress.

Some people praise Harry for apparently defending Meghan for she first appeared on the scene, but want to blame William for defending Catherine. Catherine shouldn't have had to defend herself against the pushy newcomer in the first place. Meghan is a cunt of the first order.

Take your foot out of my ass. I’ve got to return to work in !0 minutes.

Wow just as insignificant as it was in 2019. Who knew.

Ever since Big Liz croaked, the Royal Family hasn’t been able to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. It’s all downhill from here.

[quote]Properly understood, feminism is about raising consciousness on the patriarchal barriers that should be dismantled so women have the mobility and access to choose to live their lives however they want to, including striving to be the wife of the future King of the UK and Commonwealth realms.

Properly understood, this isn’t a feminist issue at all.

This is an issue of people judging lazy asses.

Or are you one of those people who insist on infantilizing women?

“I must to rush in and stop these meanies from judging these empty-headed hausfrauen!”

They chose the job, they choose the consequences.

Don’t want people to think you’re an empty-headed blob? Have a real life apart from your hubby.

Be independent.

But if she was white...

[quote] …patriarchal barriers…should be dismantled so women have the mobility and access to choose to live their lives however they want to, including striving to be the wife of the future King of the UK and Commonwealth realms.

There are no “patriarchal barriers” to striving to marry a Prince.

In fact, that is the goal “the Patriarchy” has always encouraged women to pursue.

Congrats on your moronic word salad, though.

R95 Catherine is not a "housewife." When she married into the royal family, William was only the heir to the heir and as such, the pressure was not on either one of them to jump into royal engagements right away. William worked as rescue pilot while Catherine did what no royal woman has really ever done (even Diana) but her children first. Catherine priorities her children over everything and frankly, given what a mess most royals make of their lives often due to disengaged parents, it's probably in the best interest of the future of the monarchy. That being said, they did undertake engagements and foreign tours and since Queen Elizabeth died, they've upped their workload.

Lets also be real here, while William actually had a proper job for a number of years, Harry did not and carried out fewer engagements than both William and Catherine. And Meghan in two years, worked a total of just 75 days while still managing to take something like 12 private trips aboard (despite saying the royals took away her passport). And since leaving the royals what the fuck do they even do? If we're going to bitch about work ethic, William and Catherine look like workaholics next to H&M.

[quote]William worked as rescue pilot while Catherine did what no royal woman has really ever done

Take it up the butt to avoid pregnancy?

[quote]Catherine did what no royal woman has really ever done (even Diana) but her children first. Catherine priorities her children over everything and frankly, given what a mess most royals make of their lives often due to disengaged parents, it's probably in the best interest of the future of the monarchy.

Yes, as already stated— she was a housewife.

Good for Catherine. She cherishes her husband and children.

[quote] Good for Catherine. She cherishes her husband and children.

Do you know how STUPID you sound, calling her "Catherine?"

When this entire time, she's been known as KATE?

As if she suddenly was born into Royalty and Nobility?

Talk about putting on fucking airs! You sound absolutely ridiculous.

Goddamned fool.

Oh look everyone, it's HER ROYAL HIGHNESS CATHERINE THE GREAT!

Ha ha STAY PRESSED!

[quote]Yes, as already stated— she was a housewife.

Elizabeth was a housewife when she first married. She told a friend she could be content just being the wife of a military man.

This was covered in The Crown.

Catherine, Catherine, Catherine, Catherine, Catherine, Catherine, Catherine, Catherine and Catherine.

Her job is to be a brood mare.

[quote] Her job is to be a brood mare.

Fat women usually make good breeders.

That's why I chose her.

[quote]Elizabeth was a housewife when she first married. She told a friend she could be content just being the wife of a military man. This was covered in The Crown.

Please explain how this is relevant to the discussion.

[quote]Please explain how this is relevant to the discussion.

R119 said no royal woman besides Catherine had been a housewife. I was pointing out that for a brief period Queen Elizabeth had and that she had expressed a thought that she seemed to be happy doing it.

R26 they love her because she’s paradoxically the Ultimate Basic, like Justin Timberlake. If you’re the right kind of basic and bland, you too can become Queen.

R65 that’s ENGLAND in a nutshell. Everything they do is god almighty perfect and everyone else on the planet is a barbarian.

The level of snowflake to think mommy brain or baby brain is an insult and go snitching to your husband is so fake fragile.

So is being triggered by someone pointing at you, quite frankly. Who cares if someone points at you?

r116 and r118 are giving it a good try but no dice.

Harkles crap PR still sucks!

R131: Nope.

The post you cited reads: “Catherine did what no royal woman has really ever done (even Diana) but her children first.”

Says nothing about being a housewife. Many “housewives” steadfastly ignore and neglect their children. .

I'd be pretty embarrassed if someone held a meeting to accuse me of being too familiar and lacking basic social skills. I don't think Meghan is scoring a point against William and Kate by sharing this story.

[quote] I don't think Meghan is scoring a point against William and Kate by sharing this story.

Meghan isn't the one sharing this story.

[bold]According to the Mirror, in the new book, "Catherine, The Princess of Wales: The Biography," author Robert Jobson weighs in[/bold]

Can you even READ, R136?

Do you think while Meghan was saying “Take your finger out of my face” she was snapping her fingers back and forth like a dime store drag queen?

R126 “The Crown” is not a documentary.

At this point how can anyone take sides when they’re all cunts? The house of Sussex is a cunt in public while the house of Wales is a cunt in private.

[quote] [R126] “The Crown” is not a documentary.

Yeah, that's what I was going to say. But couldn't tell if R126 was joking or not.

It can be hard to tell, R141!

Take your feet out of my ass.

What I actually said to William, was "GET YOUR FOOT OFF MY NECK. I CAN'T BREATHE!!!"

I don't blame anyone for slagging off the Harkles. They need to stop WHINING and begone.

Is she from one of those colored voodoo islands? Mavis Perkins said not to trust them and they resort to satanic hexes . Look at all the sudden cancer diagnosis so this makes me wonder.

Take your stinky cunt out of my kingdom!

You forgot to mention her race.

Depends on her bronzer application, R148.

Wills, was that ridiculous, colored woman attempting to mock you by comparing your angry finger with the size of your penis!???

[quote]Meghan to William: Take Your Finger Out Of My Face!

[quote]Harry to Meghan: Megs! Mommy! Don't Take Your Fist Out Of My Ass!!

She shouldn't have bitten it.

I still find it interesting how William went from single man bar hopping carouser to Mr. above it all 'His Highness' practically overnight. Frankly, I think one of Williams' issues with Harry is that he is jealous of Harry's freedom to do whatever he wants and take no orders from any pompous figureheads.

Yes, that’s definitely it.

"His Royal Highness", R153, tyvm!

Shhh she was a victim of objectification when she should have been judged for intelligently opening suitcases in stilettos.

People who think that Harry is living a better life than William are very fucking stupid.

People who give a shit about either or compare the two are stupid R157. You must be a tabloid rag reading frau.

Is it just me or do a lot of these BRF fanfraus seem unusually immature in their outlook? Everything boils down to some invented competition based on tabloid stories and their own fantasies.

R158, are you calling r153 stupid?

R159, are you calling r153 immature?

I just love how fake, tacky and trashy Meghan is. No matter how hard she tries to be classy, sincere, genuine and stylish, the whole world can see her for what she really is.

I think it’s fantastic that her father will get a cash grab via the Go Fund Me that Lady C has set up for him, Meghan must be fucking furious. Next I would like to see the Markle clan in maybe some kind of trashy reality show.

No R160. I can't even see that poster.

[quote]Like at that business event Meghan recently attended. It was an all-female function, and that's the kind of things that they would joke around with each other about.

According to r105, an all-gals Bermuda-shorts business networking event in the Hamptons is precisely the same thing as navigating one's private relationship with a British royal SIL.

As r38 excellently pointed out, just read the room for a beat or two, to determine what’s appropriate or welcome. Megz evidently was unaware she hadn’t established that kind of rapport, and overstepped.

Meghan has about the same level of self-awareness as a moose blocking the road, i.e. completely out of here element but infinitely self-assured that she is exactly where she should be.

r156 she was a mess back then too with the hair in her face

Meghan is going to have a fun time remembering moments like this when Harry's dad dies in a few years and she'll have to kowtow to King William V.

Not to mention calling Queen Catherine “Your Majesty” and curtseying to her.

Which is why it will never ever happen.

Meghan won't have to call William and Catherine anything. Charles' siblings and their spouses don't have to bow, curtsey or kowtow to Charles and Camilla.

The main reason why Meghan won't have to call William and Catherine anything, however, is because she's unlikely ever to meet them again.

R105 has a weird idea of what women do when we get together. In any case, wasn't Meghan a guest of an attendee at the Hamptons event, rather than having been invited herself? And wasn't she effectively cold-shouldered by most of the women attending? Especially the big names that were reputed to have been there.

Actually, R168 - you’re wrong there. At formal occasions such as the Coronation and HLM’s funeral, all of the extended royal family bowed or curtsied to the King and Queen, including Charles’s siblings, their spouses, their children, the Waleses, their children, Harry (and Meghan at the funeral) and the Gloucesters, Kents and their families in Westminster Abbey and for the funeral at St George’s Chapel. It’s all on YouTube for your viewing pleasure.

You call it “kowtow”, they would call it etiquette.

But as you said - academic for the Sussexes as they will be sure to stay away to avoid it all.

On rare formal occasions such as coronations and funerals of a monarch, r170. It's hardly a daily event. The King's family members are not expected to bow or curtsey to him each time they meet.

We have no idea what they do in private, R171 - HLM always received bows and curtsies from the family when they first saw her for the day and again when they said goodbye at the end of the day - this is well documented.

Charles may well have dispensed with this on acceding, or he may not have.

I've seen both Queen Elizabeth and King Charles greeting members of their family in public without bows and curtseys, r172.

It was awkward to watch Megs, when she was briefly a member of the BRF, greet a woman who was in the throes of a curtsy while Megs launched herself in for a hug. Girl, just accept the curtsy.

When I am Queen, I shall offer to make amends by bestowing a new title on the Duchess of Sussex.

If the sword happens to slip, well...who's Queen?

[quote]she'll have to kowtow to King William V.

She won't have to do anything of the sort.

You can always tell when the Hyacinth Buckets are up and active in the UK.

How are her little, what was it, ahhh yes, jars of jam coming along?

I think that they’re all deplorable.

[quote]Meghan is a girly girl

OH, MY SIDES!

Sorry, R180, but she really appears to be that way. Not the person you're responding to but I thought I'd chime in.

R181, “bonding over womanhood,” which R105 claims “girly girl” Meghan does, is manipulative nonsense. You can’t force someone to instantly be your friend. That’s creepy.

Wasn't addressing that issue but she seems girly girl to me. I don't care about her personality.

Anyone with eyes and ears can cell that she's basic AF

Meghan and William are both alphas. They’d not going to get along. The doormat wife Kate didn’t have the guts to bring up issues with Meghan so she came running to the husband to complain and this is the result.

Me too R173, but that’s not what I said. Read it again if you can be bothered - I have no interest in dying on this hill!

Let’s talk again when William is King.

All members of the royal family are expected to bow or curtsy to the monarch or the monarch's wife the first time they see them that day.

Take Your Cock Out Of My Mouth! - Will to Harry during youthful hormonal “horseplay”

[quote]“For many of those in the press,” Scobie wrote in his book, Endgame. “Kate is the monarchy’s last ‘shiny thing’ for many years to come"

I think not.

R187, if that's true that is just ridiculous bullshit but not sure I believe it. It's 2024, not the middle ages. The sooner the UK drops this antiquated bullshit the better off it will be.

Yes, I am sure that is the most oppressive situation the UK faces right now, r190.

Once bowing and curtsying to the monarch are abolished, the problems with the economy and the infrastructure and migrants and racism will just evaporate.

[quote] After Queen Elizabeth's death in September, her eldest son immediately acceded to the throne as His Majesty King Charles alongside his wife, Her Majesty the Queen Consort (also known as Queen Camilla). All members of the royal family, including those with His/Her Royal Highness (HRH) titles, bow or curtsy to the monarch and his wife when greeting them for the first time in a while — even his children!

I'd buy all this talk of William being a violent household tyrant if the only evidence of it weren't just Harry sobbing that he tore his necklace, and Meghan complaining he wagged his finger at her.

[quote] People who give a shit about either or compare the two are stupid [R157]. You must be a tabloid rag reading frau.

No sense of irony.

I hope William does maintain the tradition of a daily bow/curtsy even from the family.

If you’re not going to acknowledge that the monarch stands apart, why bother with any of it?

Might as well be that SNL sketch.

William should definitely maintain the tradition if only to ensure that Harry and his harridan don't ever come over

Lol, R191, is that what you got out of my statement?

I hope when he becomes king, William institutes "The Texas Dip" as standard court protocol before himself and Kate, just for Meghan's sake.

[quote]“For many of those in the press,” Scobie wrote in his book, Endgame. “Kate is the monarchy’s last ‘shiny thing’ for many years to come"

Scobie should have a chat with my admirer Travis Kelce. And that guy knows a superstar when he sees one.

At any point, did Meghan use the word "Mafuckin'?"

Gotta love how the dimwit at r192 thinks that People magazine is some kind of source of accuracy and credibility about the British royal family. We see them greeting each other all the time without bowing and curtseying to Charles, but let's rely on People magazine's American fantasies about the BRF instead!

I stopped taking PEOPLE Magazine seriously back in the 90s. It’s a publicity machine for famous people who want to dupe the public into thinking that they’re saints.

[quote]Kate is Chav TRASH.

And yet, on her worst day, is still more enthralling than Meghan could ever hope to be.

Poor Duchess trying and failing miserably to become a modern day Diana. Returning to Hollywood to reignite a D list career after marrying into aristocracy, and it's all been a rather clumsy and pedantic show since. And not a single decent, memorable fashion moment to boot.

‘Pity party’: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle launch ‘another feel good project’

I think it’s Kate trying to copy Diana. The only thing that she may have gotten right is the eating disorder.

Kate doesn't copy Diana. she is completely different than Diana. Shall we count the ways?

1. Raised in a stable family with decent parents

2. Completed A Levels and a university degree

3. Married at 30+ not 20.

4. Negotiated her public role to devote appropriate and required time to raising a healthy family, which actually IS the job

5. Doesn't whore around or make prank calls to ex lovers

6. Doesn't call the paps

7. Doesn't call the paps and cry victim

8. Doesn't use her children as pawns for sympathy and publicity

9. Maintains close relationships over long periods of time with minimum of drama

10. Follows through on work commitments

11. Makes careful and considered decisions, is not impulsive

R205 = Harry's wife

[quote]Take your finger out of my face

How very Jerry Springer. Markle is low class trash.

KlanGranny at R206 seems very BOTHERED.

Take off your Klan Hood and breathe, you nasty cunt.

Jesus r209, you're just plain weird.

Oh look, the KGTroll at r209. How unexpected.

KGT it's time for some new material - your current schtick is very tired.

Take your MAFUKIN finger out of my MAFUKIN FACE, you tiny dicked MAFUCKER!!

Meghan telling Catherine that she had "baby brain" was rude, overly-familiar, and condescending--which was why she said it.

“Mafuckin” is good, KGT R213 - it’s not at all new or original, so you’ve obviously just learned it, but it does inject a little variety into your meth-binge rants.

R214 stop. You don’t know why she said that. You live in Meghan’s head? She sure lives in yours. 24/7.

Will you be reporting this thread to Muriel, KGT / R216?

Don't forget to alert all the other authorities so that all our IP addresses can be recorded and tracked by the FBI, Mossad, MI6 and the KGB.

R217, I remember when we were all going to tracked down and questioned. Those were the days!

Shuddup NY Post troll

Assuming that NY Post tidbit is true-

(rubbing my hands together) Ooooooooh. This is gonna get even better.

It was always in the pipeline that Markle would write a book. I didn't think it would be this early.

I see, right now, her pretext and strategy.

Mental health will, ostensibly, be the topic she insists her book is about. With the same words, however, she'll insinuate more negative stuff about the behavior of Harry's immediate family.

And if you dare express anything less than fully being on her side, you're evil. You're bullying her in the presence of her "painful truth."

Let me be clear. I have no doubt Markle experienced anguish. If she wants to share with the world, in good faith, her mental health struggles in order to help others, OK.

But she's so phony that she herself has created credibility problems if she's going to cloak all of that in some kind of disingenuous slam on the BRF.

That's where the problem is for her.

But, here's what I'm hoping for. If she does publish a book, remember that bullying investigation that Q E II directed be done and a report was written? And then Buckingham Palace stated it wouldn't be distributed?

If my guess is correct that that wasn't a bluff by the BRF, what are the chances it documents and reveals very bad behavior by Markle?

Then when Markle's book is published, that report leaks and then it's "Oh my. How did that ever happen?" time by the BRF.

[quote]Then when Markle's book is published, that report leaks and then it's "Oh my. How did that ever happen?" time by the BRF.

Just like Scobie accidentally naming the so-called "royal racists."

The 'bullying report' will never be "leaked" because of UK confidentiality laws. Frauen should stick to children and divorce speculation.

The report may not be "leaked" by BP, but what if they release these staffers and former staffers from their NDAs and just make the report public? It was QEII's decision to keep the report public as she had paid for it.

Two possible reasons speculated upon for withholding is that 1) BP failed to protect its staff from the new raging asshole family member; and 2) since Meghan was still officially in as a member of the family and Harry's wife, they desired to limit damage to her as well as protecting their reputations for not shielding bewildered staff from the new pernicious whirlwind in their presence.

It was limiting damage control on the RF's part, but the damage was done -- no more to control now. Maybe Charles is reluctant, but William not so much. Let 'er rip!

[quote] Just like Scobie accidentally naming the so-called "royal racists."

It was a Dutch translation of Scobie's book that leaked the information about the royal racists, not Omid Scobie himself.

Try again.

Who needs to "try again?" Certainly not the Sussexes.

Markle and Harry have succeeded in insinuating that Catherine, Princess of Wales and King Charles are bigoted. Well done. You've made your point.

But the Sussexes have lost the PR long-game war.

They're both now where they started - C List strivers.

Meghan told Winfrey that in the months leading up to Archie's birth, members of the royal family had expressed "concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he is born." She did not reveal names during the interview, and the unknown individuals were dubbed "the royal racists" in the British press and online.

In the English version of Scobie’s book, he alleged that there had been two people involved in the discussions, according to the BBC. He said he knew their identities but could not name them because of legal reasons, the news outlet reported.

He was the author, any other finger pointing is the equivalent of the a CEO blaming the 'underlings'

How did the Dutch version get the names in the first place, if not from Scabies? Try again.

The translator didn’t invent the names. She was given a manuscript that had the names in it.

It was a plausible deniability move on Scobie's part. Whoopsie! Rather, on Meghan's part vis a vis minion Scobie who seems to hsve disappeared into the Hollywood Hills.

[quote]Meghan told Winfrey that in the months leading up to Archie's birth, members of the royal family had expressed "concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he is born."

And Harry came on the same interview immediately after and said that was bullshit. Do try to keep up.

[quote] Kate Middleton "Anxious" and "Triggered" By Meghan Markle

As the royal family rift has deepened, multiple reports have emerged discussing Princess Kate and Prince William's feelings on the matter. For instance, one source suggested Kate and William felt "pettiness" and "jealousy" when it came to Meghan Markle's popularity. Yet another source claimed that Kate Middleton and Prince William found the so-called rivalry with Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan "frustrating." Now, a new article is reporting that Kate and William are taking a break from all things Meghan and Harry for the next few weeks.

In the new Heatworld report, an alleged "insider" claimed that Kate and William are avoiding any talk of the Sussexes while they vacation in Balmoral for the summer. Most importantly, the moratorium is reportedly in place because William doesn't want Kate to experience any unnecessary stress or anxiety while she continues cancer treatment.

"Kate’s still very much focusing on her healing, and they decided to create a firm boundary to protect her from all the stress and upset Harry and Meghan create, which understandably has a negative impact on her physical health, as well as her mental health," the source claimed. As a result, "Kate and William have put a self-imposed ban on anything Meghan and Harry-related, as they take time out to enjoy some much-needed respite and family time."

According to Heatworld, Prince William has been firm about the ban in order to protect his wife, who revealed her cancer diagnosis earlier this year. "William was sick and tired of seeing how triggered and anxious Kate would become every time Meghan and Harry would do or say something that negatively impacted them—no matter how subtle—and as soon as he suggested it, Kate agreed it was vital for them all," the source claimed.

[quote] "Kate and William have put a self-imposed ban on anything Meghan and Harry-related, as they take time out to enjoy some much-needed respite and family time."

I like Kate and have nothing bad to say about her decision to take this year to create memories with her children and focus on healing instead of working. But JFC, she has had eight months of family time already. She’s not just now taking a break. And, yes, it may have been a very harrowing eight months, but have some respect for the people who go through similar health crises while continuing to shoulder all their other responsibilities. Continue to focus on your family and health, but have some perspective.

It seemed like they had made a course correction and were doing great after initially handling this crisis abysmally but if this came from their PR people, it’s a mistake.

Heatworld.

That article at r232 is funny. I find its premise ludicrously laughable.

"Baby Born With Wooden Leg" is my all-time favorite made-up tabloid headline.

What that thing at r232 is attempting to suggest, however, that the Prince and Princess of Wales are consumed with thoughts of the Sussexes, comes close to replacing it.

“Princess Kate”. “Kate Middleton”. “Duchess Meghan”. “Meghan Markle”. “Alleged”. “Source”.

Yes - Heatworld sure sounds like a reputable publication of record.

The problem with this and all celeb worship/hate is of course the mysterious "sources". Why believe "sources"? Name them.

I can call a gossip rag and tell them I saw Middleton getting her clit sucked at a truck stop by a lady truck driver and be a "source".

[quote] I can call a gossip rag and tell them I saw Middleton getting her clit sucked at a truck stop by a lady truck driver and be a "source".

But it won’t be printed. I don’t know what Heatworld is, but Marie Claire won’t print your lady truck driver story. DL will let you post whatever you want, though, so don’t hold back.

I’m not suggesting that every printed tidbit is true, but there is clearly a process in place for sources with some credibility to place items.

[quote]one source suggested Kate and William felt "pettiness" and "jealousy" when it came to Meghan Markle's popularity.

Gee, I wonder who that source was? Does it sound like Leggin' Farkle?

Heatworld. A baby born with a hollow leg you say?

I'm shocked that William the Terrible didn't stick his finger in this poor man's face!

He's a real psycho.

Speaking of psychos, R241 - isn’t it time for your carers to give you you night’s medication?

“hrhgossip”? Another clueless American talking about a subject that is beyond their understanding.