When will Republicans push Trump out of the race and who will the replacement candidate be?

DISCLAIMER!!!

There's a "theory" out there that once Thiel and Co. got their boy as Veep, they planned him to replace Trump as nominee later. Kinda sucks for the (hoodwinked) Trump sons, but it's one of those rumors I've heard.

NEVER.

Not gonna happen, OP. Trump is their ONLY (dwindling) chance to win.

I was just thinking about this this afternoon. I wonder if he did something egregious enough would the RNC find a way to replace him. Unlike with the Democrats, the Republicans would not cornered into promoting Vance though. I wonder who the backup candidate would be. I suppose DeSantis. Haley would cause civil war in the party.

The cult (which is the GOP's core these days) will never accept a replacement.

No, they've already decided they're just going to steal the election no matter what.

[quote]The cult (which is the GOP's core these days) will never accept a replacement.

I think a lot of Republicans would be like a lot of Democrats were, and want to win at all costs with whoever makes that happen. IF Trump became extremely wounded (figuratively).

I think it would have to be Vance since they've had their convention. Part of me thought the fake assassination attempt was a message from tptb that the orange turd had better pick who they wanted as VP

You might be onto something, R8. Billionaires don't want him, they'd prefer someone like Vance who has no convictions whatsoever and will do whatever he's asked to do and who can be easily pulled away from MAGA since they were never fully in to start with. But they know there's no way the cult will vote for anyone else.

Vance has zero charisma, and charisma is highly important in politics. If he won a presidential election, that would be a clear indication of interference and tampering.

if Trump is jettisoned and he's goes scorched earth, he could convince some Republican voters not to vote.

Dump will be the candidate. He won’t step down. He’s the useful idiot that TPTB want. They’ll just try to figure out a way to manage him better. Like better medication. Or more of it. And keeping him from speaking engagements. And doubling down on their racist, misogynistic rhetoric against Kamala. It’s kind of funny that “Sleepy Joe” dropping out threw Dump so far off balance.

R11: My wildest dream has been for him to tell his dead-ender MAGAs when he loses that it's useless ever voting, both parties are shit.

[quote]They’ll just try to figure out a way to manage him better.

Shares in a blind trust. Free bit coin. They'll just buy him. That's all he wants anyway.

You’re forgetting his daughter in law is chair of the RNC. He’s made it nearly impossible for the party to force him out.

[quote] I think it would have to be Vance since they've had their convention.

I'm pretty sure R8 has it right. Plus, very soon we're going to be hitting deadlines so that ballot printing can begin. It takes a while to print tens of millions of ballots, plus get them shipped and mailed where they need to be in time for states that allow early + absentee voting.

If there were to be a nominee change -- Trump "backs out" due to "health reasons" or, Judge Merchan actually sentences him in September to PRISON -- I think the only practical option for the GOP would be Vance since he's already nominated as part of the Trump ticket. Ballots printed with Trump's name and votes cast for him (I believe) would be counted for Vance.

What if he actually gets a short jail sentence in September? Because that’s actually possible. I doubt his interview with his parole officer went swimmingly.

[quote] I doubt his interview with his parole officer went swimmingly.

It was a perfect interview. Some people are saying it was the best parole interview ever.

I think they’ve got their operatives installed in positions in the red states where they can say no, we won’t certify the election results (if Harris wins) due to some made up reasons. It will be tossed up the the US Supremes and they’ll give the country over to Trump and the Heritage Foundation and there will be nothing we can do about it. They need Trump in place to let that happen.

[quote]I think they’ve got their operatives installed in positions in the red states where they can say no, we won’t certify the election results (if Harris wins) due to some made up reasons.

If Harris wins the Electoral College, it doesn't matter what the red states do, so that's of no concern.

They're stuck with Trump and it serves them right.

R16: they would be votes for the Republican elector slate to meet in that state capital in December.

Many, many people are saying Trump is a weak candidate for Republicans and should be replaced.

But who would that party, so twisted and messed up, find to replace him?

There is no Republican Party anymore.

[quote]There is no Republican Party anymore.

That's probably true inside the bubble. Outside the bubble, it's quite a different story.

Since he’s convinced he’s right all the time, let him fly off the cliff with no guardrails. And hopefully all of his dumb followers jump off with him.

Gosh, I hope they're keeping him safe, because they sure wouldn't want to solve a lot of problems the old fashioned way

MAGAts would riot if he is replaced. Those responsible would be taken out.

Without Trump at the top of the ticket, there is no GOP.

They would never replace him because they armed his supplicants to the teeth.

The way to force Trump out is to entrap Eric in an adulterous sex scandal à la Charles Kushner.

Lara Lee will unleash her vengeance on her fatger-in-law. She’ll install the first GOP governor to tell her her arms are toned.

He’s going to fight to the death because, once he loses, he will face all those delayed trials.

He’s terrified of prison.

Never, it’s a cult. They would rather die

R32 Lara isn’t going to unleash vengeance on her father-in-law. How do you think she got the job?

OP- When will Democrats push Kalamsta out of the race and put someone in who could actually beat Trump.

zzzzz r36

Trump will not quit. His only chance of staying out of jail is to become president. (For life)

[quote] I wonder if he did something egregious enough

He could burn down an orphanage and they wouldn’t care. They’d probably applaud.

Who would that be R36?

@r39, He already told his nephew to let his disabled son die, what's an orphanage?

Fred Trump said that if Don loses, he will run again in 2028. He'll still have total control of the party, so why not?

When Harris is sworn in next January, he'll have had a breakdown by then. Remains to be seen whether they glorify his memory, or try to push references to him aside?

[Quote] the fake assassination attempt

Wait, there’s a theory it was fake? Help me understand this — what about the dead assassin?

[quote]he will run again in 2028.

Unlikely. First, he probably won't be alive. Second, when he loses for the second time, third if we want to include the '22 midterms that were supposed to be a red wave but were not because Trump has turned so many people off, he will fall out of favor with the people who actually run the GOP (the Kochs, the Mercers, Peter Thiel, Leonard Leo et. al.). Third, they have their nominee for 2028: JD Vance.

I agree '28 is unlikely, too. Remember, his criminal charges get a lot more complicated if he can't hide behind the Presidency. Although he a lot like Jason from Friday the 13th.

Never, they’re already spinning it as a big win and saying Trump connected with “the hood”. Thousands of bots pretending to be black americans are clutching their pearls at the disrespectful reporters who set him up!

Ain’t gonna happen-they need that Mother/Daughter fucker.

They’ve had endless opportunities to get rid him of him and the elected to keep him. He’s not going anywhere until he’s dead.

[quote]He'll still have total control of the party, so why not?

Because (presuming he’s still alive) he won’t get any younger, smarter or healthier in the next four years. His legal problems won’t just disappear. Whatever sort of dementia he’s got will only get worse, and at a faster pace. Add in that two time loser stigma and he’s doomed. It’s now or never.

His ODOR is so bad, no one wants to get close enough to do the pushing.

You forgot daughter-in-law R48

The only Americans rump is connecting to is he’s base. So, the base is 35%. Nobody else likes this asshole. Nobody.

As far as 2028, it’s a long way off and a million things can happen. Rump looks very unhealthy and is pushing 80 years old. I dunno, I don’t think he’ll run again in 2028. He’ll huff and puff and try to stir up another January 6, but don’t think it will work this time. Main reason, he won’t be president and President Harris (hopefully) will shut that shit down so fast.

Also, If Ivanka was sexually abused by rump, it would be healthy for her to get that off her chest. I feel like his action against Ivanka are a ticking time-bomb. Somebody in that family will talk eventually .

She’s probably so frightened of him, she’s paralyzed. Plus that horrible pic of her sitting on his lap and he has lascivious smile on his face, she probably thinks people would blame her. Ugh. I feel bad for her in a way.

I think you're going to have to be a very impressive 80 year old to seek the presidency after what Biden has done. It's a precedent that has opened up the age question permanently. Genie's not going back in the bottle.

The question is, if he loses again (and it's likely) will there at least be a decisive internal civil war within the Republican party and what will the outcome of it be? If we're lucky, the party splinters.

[quote]will there at least be a decisive internal civil war within the Republican party and what will the outcome of it be?

And will there be catering for those of us watching from the stands?

Vance in '28, R45? Methinks not.

Trump will be exiled to Elba, and Don Jr. will replace him.

R53 Even indulging your wild speculation, she’s never worked a real day in her life, spent her existence being tended to by servants in opulence and used to shit on a gold toilet.

I’d be happy to sit his fucking lap for that deal.

Trump and his family control the GOP.

I like how in short order DL has gone from posters intoning "nothing can save us from Trump" to speculation on how soon he'll be kicked out as the candidate.

They do and they don't. The thing is about all dictatorships, regimes, however you define your corrupt organization based on control and coercion... there's always a point it topples under its own weight. Trump's grip will collapse too, at some point. It may be he loses control of the Republicans, or it may be the moderate wing walks and starts their own party, leaving them to drive the Republican party into the ground. At some point, a critical mass will say enough is enough and it will be just large enough to bring him down. Think about it, if he loses the biggest prize in November, how many losses is that for the whole party over the past five years? Enough to make people think twice. Yes, the stupid dirt will always be with Trump, but how much worse can breaking with him be than sticking with him? That's the question that eventually will be answered by: break with him.

Would the Republicans have a better chance with or without Trump?

I'm torn. He's an albatross around their necks, but they also have no charismatic replacements waiting in the wings. I can't believe he polls so high, and it makes me ashamed of America

Too late. They already had their convention. Now...if their nominee were to suffer some debilitating medical event, or even die, then he can be replaced. The other thing to be mindful of is that the GOP intends to block certification of the votes in every single state they can. So they have a plan B if things go south. We have to be vigilant and make sure that certification process...at the local level works the way it's supposed to. Especially in the swing states. We may not be able to save them all but we need 270 electoral votes so we have to get the actual votes certified.

[quote] We have to be vigilant and make sure that certification process...at the local level works the way it's supposed to.

How many states and localities are you planning to travel to to be vigilant and somehow have any effect whatsoever on the process?

No one is going to vote for JD Vance when his name isn't attached to Diaper Donnie. JD has the charm of a used condom. The two Vance fans on here need to pack it in. He's a dud.

I know Peter Thiel posts on DL. Who is the other fan?

Defacto, R66. That makes all two of them.

Ghislaine Maxwell will apparently start speaking up about Trump in September. That will be fun.

No fucking way will he be running in 2028. He’ll either be dead, in prison or lying on a sunbed at a dacha in Crimea.

If there were a replacement, who would win...

Harris/Shapiro vs Nikki Haley/DeSantis

Trump would step down as the presidential candidate if he made a deal with Biden, McConnell and maybe a couple of others...

Trump would step down if there were a promise that he would be immune from (possibly) prosecution, but definitely from prison.

DeSantis may be worse than Vance.

I think an ok R ticket might be Haley/Rubio though too moderate for the maga crazies. I shudder to think they'll find another Trump/Bolsonaro/Mussolini crazy wild type.

Trump isn't going anywhere. Republicans all down the line actually LOVE the guy!

His ignorance and criminality are badges of honor to them!

Though thinking about it, crazy wild might be better than efficient psychopath, like Dick Cheney or worse, the Viktor Orban, Vladimir Putin ilk.

Buckle up. The planet may be in for some crazy shit in the coming decades, with climate change, more migrants from the global south, etc.

Nobody is worse than Dump R71. It isn't possible.

JD Vance makes Rhonda DeSantis seem charismatic. And Birdbrain Nimrata has no future either--MAGAts don't trust her and she's now despised by the never Trumper Republicans pissed over her flipping back to Trump. Who will be left once Trump passes away? Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, Rick Scott, Little Marco, Moses Mike Johnson, Rapey Matt Gaetz? I don't see much in terms of leadership there but there is plenty of weirdness.

And me ! !

It's too late for the GOP to salvage. At this point, no one would believe the GOP candidate is back peddling on abortion or cuts to social security, medicare, and the courts. I think most people (I hope) are not willing to take a chance on putting the current unmoderates in power. Anyone that supported Trump would be seen as tainted.

It's funny seeing the buyer's remorse finally setting in as he's about to lose for the second time, possibly bigly. Good luck leaving your MAGA addiction behind, turds. May the withdrawal process kill you for good.

r72, The power structure hates him and they don't want to lose.

We often overlook his number one priority, the entire purpose of his candidacy is to stay out of jail. Last night, Scaramucci said he's looking to cut a deal to get out.

Mooch said TSF knows he lost the popular vote 2x. If he could cut a deal to stay out of prison in NY/GA, he could step down for health reasons and the ticket could be replaced with Rhonda/Nimrata or others.

If T-Rump did indeed step aside, would the replacement process be as smooth and successful as the one with Harris has been, or would there be a bloody public brawl between the different campaigns (Vance, Haley, Rubio, DeSantis, etc.)?

Wouldn't the VP on the ticket automatically take his place?

You cannot replace Trump. He is the Orange Jesus, anything less than that would spur a Maga revolt

^Not if he resigned by choice and anointed a successor. Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.

Right now, They can't win and can't contest it if it's a landslide. They have to keep it close and TSF is losing it.

He has three sons y'all.

[quote] When will Republicans push Trump out

I like the title of this thread!

I wish they’d push him out in front of a bus. Of course the bus would be a total loss, and the clean up would take days, but it’d be worth it.

I just threw up a little... in my mouth, R86.

If party operatives want him out they can probably bribe David Pecker to unleash the vault

I honestly don't know who could win. This will be the most surprising race of my lifetime which has gone on far too long already.

They tried. They had their Kamala, Nikki Haley. Seems that Dem corporate overlords are stronger.

Nikki Haley really is a Bird Brain.

Trump was right about her.

You can't replace Trump. I agree. But I also do not think any traditional politician like the Republicans mentioned, will be able to draw enough support to get the votes necessary to even be nominated. I think the next high profile political leader for the Neo Fascist Republican Party will come from the world of celebrity,...like Sean Hannity. But younger. Not a lunatic like Tucker Carlson, though.So look around at the MAGA supported "famous on the internet" types and the Fox types, and figure it out.

^ How about me? I'm a nice Nazi lady.

They won't push him out until he loses them the White House for a second time in November.

This makes me wonder: third-party candidates notwithstanding, has a US Presidential candidate ever lost two general elections in a row?

They will go down with their captain. As long as tRump is alive, he will own the GQP.

[quote]This makes me wonder: third-party candidates notwithstanding, has a US Presidential candidate ever lost two general elections in a row?

Adlai Stevenson

Also William Jennings Bryan.

Thank you r96/r97!

I agree with the poster above about the faked assassination attempt, sublimely pulled off by the Bilderberg folks. However, people are saying that Mossad is having trouble with their intercontinental hologram laser technology and the Fake Melania hologram is too glitchy to be used now, and the real Melania sleeper cell may have been awakened by the Lizard Race Gotha of Europe, controlled by the Rothschilds. Meanwhile, remember that Jared DID broker the sale by the Vatican/Pope of the Ark of the Covenant to the House of Said, so all hell will break out if there are any Western Christian hegemonic power moves by NATO.

I see that you've been doing your own research again R99.

I suspect the most of the GOP in leadership hates his fucking guts. But only Cheney, Christie and a handful of others have made their voices heard and put this country before their ambitions. I can almost forgive his MAGA cult followers because they're so stupid. But I'll never forgive people like Vance, McConnell, Haley, Barr, Graham, McCarthy, Sununu, etc., etc., who know goddamned well what a monster and psychopath he is --- and have said so publicly!--only to endorse him and give some level of legitimacy to his madness.

I can't wait until we put a stake in his heart (will be very hard to find but we'll locate some dark corner of life-force to spear) and these traitors careers will lie in ruins. They will forever be branded as racists, misogynists and traitors....and, of course, cowards. And for what? Because the Democrats want to raise taxes on the rich. That's what this is all about.

They won't get rid of Trump. They know he won't win now and we'll see them keeping schtum, hoping that if they recede into the background no one will remember how they propped up this psycho. Well, we will never forget.

I used to not care if Trump went to prison or not. I just wanted him to disappear. Now I want everything bad the world has to offer to him. I'm glad he survived the assassination attempt so that he can experience the humiliation of losing to a Black woman and the fallout post-election.

His handlers have done a decent job up to a couple weeks ago in keeping a lid on his crazy pot. But as soon as Kamala entered, the psycho came roaring back and no one can stop him. He's doing our work for us, god bless him. We just need to keep making fun of him. He hates not being taken seriously. We were getting no where with "red alert! red alert!he's a threat to the entire world!" His idiots just thinks that means this is an opportunity for them to rule the entire world.

Much, much better to laugh at them and point out their creepiness and not take them seriously at all. It's gaining traction. But, time to pivot away from the word "weird." It's getting overplayed. Let's move into other fun insults.

R’s would have totally cruised into the White House next year if they’d nominated anyone but Trump. Now they’re in a toss-up with their nominee in steep mental decline and picking fights with every Tyrone, Devonte, and Hakeem. And to top it off, his team let him choose America’s Least Likable to be his running mate. They are now in an uphill battle for what should have been a complete cakewalk.

When Barron actually grows some balls and pushes daddy down the stairs...

[quote] Vance, McConnell, Haley, Barr, Graham, McCarthy, Sununu

They're all basically plutocrats who see their chance—long the Republican dream—to undo the social safety nets and the labor unions and shift the whole tax burden onto the 99%. The Constitution, free government, equal justice under law all take a back seat to oligarchy—and their own personal wealth.

Last night at a rally in Georgia, the Orange Jesus proved again he is UnAmerican and a traitor to our nation when he congratulated Putin on the recent prisoner exchange.

Putin, of enemy nation Russia. Putin, who has sworn to destroy America. Putin, genocidal dictator.

Of course, attending MAGATs cheered for Mr. Putin at Orange Jesus' urging. Like the lobotomized sheep they are.

"Trump congratulates Putin for the prisoner exchange"

[quote]"Trump congratulates Putin for the prisoner exchange"

It's so obviously a shit-for-brains thing to say, equally it's desperately hungry for another 'controversial headline' to make sane patriots splutter.

As is being generally noted, the best thing now to do is at best totally ignore, or if really necessary, respond in tones of, "Poor old Grandpa, there he goes again!" With a pitying chuckle.

The Felon will just need desperately to up his adolescent rhetoric yet more ("Look at Me!"), and might yet say something irrecoverably bad. Even by his non-standards.

Will Mike Johnson sue?

Just a string of disconnected generalities whose cumulative message ("me and Putin good, Democrats bad") we've heard a hundred times before. The Republicans have nothing compelling anymore.

To answer a question asked earlier, Yes, the Democrats nominated Adlai Stevenson twice...and he lost twice to Eisenhower. In 1952 and again in 1956. In 1960 Stevenson briefly tried to challenge JFK at the convention but it fizzled like a wet turd. Adlai was the former governor of Illinois, and a protege of Eleanor Roosevelt's. He was later appointed JFK's Ambassador to the United Nations, back when people hoped the United Nations would actually do something to insure world peace.

Adlai, who was very mild mannered, intellectual, and professorial, and a favorite of Jackie's, famously stood toe to toe with the Russians during the Cuban Missile Crisis, presenting blown up photos taken by our spy planes to show them the missile silos in Cuba. It was quite a dramatic moment covered on live TV. As the Soviets hemmed and hawed over their answers as a prosecutorial Adlai peppered them with demands, he said, "I will wait until hell freezes over." And there was literally a collective gasp. Yes, those were the days.

Amadeus!

Replacing his VP pick now would just seem like re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

R103, name names. “Anyone but Trump”? Who? The bench is not that deep and they’re all smeared in the same shit.

#ETTD

That rally Friday night in Georgia was a complete disaster.. Definitely not a winning campaign. If he keeps this up, he has absolutely zero chance.

Atlanta rally.

[quote]Trump opened up his appearance in Atlanta lying about the Harris event in the same place, falsely claiming that people left the event early and that there were empty seats. Both events packed the room. Notably, the upper stands began to empty out about an hour into Trump’s comments.

[quote]The refrain, repeated by speaker after speaker at the rally, was that Trump took a bullet for Republican voters, and they should return the favor with powerful turnout in Georgia. “He took a bullet for you, and in that moment, we found out who Donald Trump is,” said Marjorie Taylor Greene, a representative, in a speech before 10,000 Trump supporters at the Georgia State Convocation Center. “He stood up, put his fist in the air and said ‘Fight! Fight! Fight!’ And that’s what we will do.”

All the GQP has to look forward to when Trump loses in November and they push him out of the party is further splintering between all the freaks that huddle under their umbrella. And the Never Trumpers will try to revive the traditional brand, smelling blood in the water with a black Asian woman in the WH, while Trump goes on trial for years and circles the drain like Rudy Guiliani.

And what will be the hardest thing for them to overcome? The generational shift in American politics that is happening right now. Their base is hillbilly boomers. How will they ever appeal to young voters, especially when post-Trump all they’re going to offer are poor imitations, hateful, psychotic Trump mini-mes. There will be so many factions fighting for control of the party it won’t even exist.

OMG, The split screen at R106 when Cheatolini is praising Putin---they're selling Ivermectin!!!

He literally is a snake oil salesman. You can't make this shit up. 😲 And no doubt his moron cult is buying it.

.The issues Republicans care about crime, immigration, guns, inflation, taxes have support with or without Trump. People get more conservative as they age. So new right wingers are created every year!

Smart analysis, r116. Thanks!

Irrespective of how the electoral college shakes out, ~48% of the country is going to vote for Trump. That isn’t just a bunch of hillbilly boomers. If he loses, it will be a rebuke to MAGA, but not enough to make that half of the country be normal again. Maybe the moderates will hold relatively more sway in the 2026 midterms, but even if Trump died tomorrow, or on January 7, 2025, the genie is out of the bottle. Demographics may be shifting, but as non-whites become a larger proportion of the country, more and more of them will start variegating politically and the two party system will persist.

^^^FYI Trump has NEVER gotten 47% of the vote. EVER

Trump isn’t the candidate. Dark MAGA has the real candidate waiting in the wings. He’s being replaced once he gets abducted by aliens.

Does the galaxy really harbor aliens willing to probe that?

Put in Haley

There are people who are racists who will vote for him. There are people who are fools who will vote for him, and then there are people who like "no taxes on the rich, and let's deregulate everything"

I have a cousin who raised her kids in pubic housing, and was on welfare, and she . Loves him. I guess she'd fall into the "fools" category because ...she has "Black friends."

There is no more GOP. It's now the GQP. Dump has "retruthed" and couple thousand Qanon memes. Once he loses this time, it's dunzo. I don't know how the Repukes move on from here. He has destroyed so many lives, marriages, relationships.....holy shit, the GQP seem to get off on sadomasochism.

Yes. The MAGA movement has destroyed marriages, relationships, and friendships. I've never seen anything like it. It's horrible.

They can't push him out, the base isn't Republican, they are MAGA, Trump thru and thru. They will not vote for an alternative.

I'm tanned, rested, and ready!

When Biden dropped out of the race, a friend texted me saying he was excited that now they can get someone who can beat Trump. After several messages of his invectives against the orange menace, I texted him back: "Remember when Republicans were merely icky people, not pure evil?"

There's no going back to that old guard, country club Republican set. Now, it's either MAGAloons or Libertarian/fascist broligarchs and disgruntled crypto-loving incels. Everybody else is trying to pander to one of those groups.

Trump mobilized the "paranoid style in American politics" so that it squeezed out any other voices in the Republican party. This started a long time before, but now Republican = MAGA = paranoid style.

R128 Nobody’s ever seen anything like it. Many people say it’s caused division.