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The author of the viral joke post about JD Vance having sex with a couch breaks his silence

On July 15, shortly after former President Donald Trump announced Sen. JD Vance would be joining his ticket, the X user @rickrudescalves posted a joke: "can't say for sure but he might be the first vp pick to have admitted in a ny times bestseller to fucking an Inside-out latex glove shoved between two couch cushions (vance, hillbilly elegy, pp. 179-181)."

Needless to say, pages 179 through 181 of "Hillbilly Elegy" are not devoted to an account of Vance's couch surfing, and there's no evidence that he's ever done anything to a couch other than sit on one.

Still, a lot of people found it funny. @rickrudescalves hid the post within a week of publishing it, but the couch joke had already left an impression.

Over the past week, for every seven people searching Google for "JD Vance," one person has searched "JD Vance couch," according to Google Trends. Memes of Vance fantasizing about living-room furnishings have flooded the internet. Despite being, very obviously, a joke, the post was debunked in two fact-checks by mainstream media outlets — one by Snopes and one by The Associated Press (which later deleted the fact-check from its website). Foreseeably and perversely, those debunkings propelled Couch Discourse into the mainstream.

The rumor's spread has also heralded a new style of online engagement from Democrats. In marked contrast to the Obama-era decorum of "when they go low, we go high," Vice President Kamala Harris' campaign has embraced a tongue-in-cheek tone, including writing on X, "JD Vance does not couch his hatred for women."

Couch Discourse even made it to TV. "Where does someone even get an idea like that?" the "Late Show" host Stephen Colbert asked last week.

In a grocery store, the author of the post told Business Insider. In a phone conversation this weekend, he said the idea had struck him while he was shopping the day Vance was announced as Trump's running mate.

BI tracked down the post's author, who we'll call Rick, in keeping with his former X screen name, @rickrudescalves. He changed his X screen name and protected his account last week because he was uncomfortable with the amount of attention the post generated. He asked not to be named because he's not authorized by his employer to speak with the media, but BI has confirmed his identity.

Rick does not work in politics. He has a desk job. He's on the political left and said he viewed Vance from "a place of irreverence if not outright disrespect," in part because he shares an upbringing not dissimilar to the hard-knock childhood Vance describes in "Hillbilly Elegy." The political conclusions he drew from those experiences, though, differ markedly from Vance's, he said.

The fact that so many people across the political spectrum appeared to believe his post to be true hasn't bolstered his faith in the critical-thinking skills of the electorate, Rick said — though he accepts that blame for the misapprehension starts with him. "In terms of media literacy, and those kinds of things, I guess I was already in the mud rolling around," he said.

He's mildly concerned that he's now viewed as peddling election misinformation, which, he said, was not his intent. He posted what he posted, he added, because he sees in Vance an ineffable quality he believes is best approximated with the moniker "couch-fucker."

"I have really enjoyed thinking about his team and all of the idiots associated with him having to grapple with this," Rick said. "I think by the time the AP thing came out, I was talking to one of my sisters and saying, 'Oh, yeah, Trump is already calling him a couch-fucker.'"

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As for his decision to include a fake citation in a post about a man having sex with a couch, Rick claims highbrow inspiration. "Not to egghead it up," he said, but he was an English major "and I do have certain literary tastes." Listing page numbers was "in the vein of" authors Jorge Luis Borges and John Fowles, who used excerpts and citations, real and invented, to lend an air of authenticity to their fiction. "It's something I've found funny my entire life," he said.

He said he was also inspired by an anecdote about former President Lyndon Johnson, who apocryphally asked a campaign manager to invent a rumor that one of Johnson's political opponents liked having sex with pigs.

"Christ, we can't get away with calling him a pig-fucker," the campaign manager responded, the journalist Hunter S. Thompson recounted in "Fear and Loathing: On the Campaign Trail '72." "Nobody's going to believe a thing like that."

"I know," Johnson replied. "But let's make the sonofabitch deny it."

by Anonymousreply 1July 31, 2024 9:26 AM

Beat these liars at their own game, and that deserve it.

by Anonymousreply 2July 31, 2024 9:32 AM

This guy is my hero.

And he sounds really funny too.

I'd love to meet him, because his humor is totally my type of humor.

by Anonymousreply 3July 31, 2024 9:37 AM

I don't care if you fuck the couch just put a raincoat on it.

by Anonymousreply 4July 31, 2024 9:44 AM

That's the beauty of this. Most people don't give a flying fuck about shit like this. It plays on the fact that they do.

by Anonymousreply 5July 31, 2024 9:47 AM

We need more Democrats like "Ken" on our team.

Republicans have been doing this to Democrats for decades.

They put out these lies and memes, and they're always malicious and hateful.

At least this guy did it as a joke.

But the lesson learned from this is invaluable.

This is how we fight fire with fire.

by Anonymousreply 6July 31, 2024 9:54 AM

They've been trolling since Bill Clinton. The Dema really let them define the narrative for the Clintons, and it's a formula they've been doing variations on for over 30 years.

by Anonymousreply 7July 31, 2024 9:58 AM

[quote]he viewed Vance from "a place of irreverence if not outright disrespect," in part because he shares an upbringing not dissimilar to the hard-knock childhood Vance describes in "Hillbilly Elegy."

Absolutely this. I grew up dirt poor in Ohio too. Family of grifters, methheads, and losers - most of my cousins are dead from Fentanyl. Was clever enough to get into a good school and a career. Jizz Divan Vance took all the wrong lessons - reinvent your past, play the game with oligarchs, come back and make a buck off it, and weaponize it for power. He could have just been satisfied to have overcome a rough life and made a decent one out of his circumstances, but he wanted retribution, too. He deserves to be called a couch-fucking weirdo, it's no more fiction than the simplistic bromides about family he derived from his sample of one.

by Anonymousreply 8July 31, 2024 10:01 AM

He smells up the toilet 🚽 for s week after he takes a crap.

by Anonymousreply 9July 31, 2024 10:57 AM

Wait some rando on Twitter just invented it? And it took?

How do I do that?

by Anonymousreply 10July 31, 2024 11:02 AM

[quote] Wait some rando on Twitter just invented it? And it took?

YES!

That's the beauty of this "couch fucker" meme.

This guy is absolutely brilliant.

I am curious though, how Business Insider was able to track him down, just from his Twitter name.

That's kind of scary.

Because if they can find him just from his Twitter user name, then they can find anyone.

by Anonymousreply 11July 31, 2024 3:01 PM

I want "@rickrudescalves" in me, quite deeply!

by Anonymousreply 12July 31, 2024 3:24 PM

BI probably contacted him before he hid the tweet/account and tweeted him and/or his followers to try to get an interview.

by Anonymousreply 13July 31, 2024 4:47 PM

[quote] "I have really enjoyed thinking about his team and all of the idiots associated with him having to grapple with this," Rick said. "I think by the time the AP thing came out, I was talking to one of my sisters and saying, 'Oh, yeah, Trump is already calling him a couch-fucker.'"

I'm SURE Trump is calling him a couch fucker.

And also coming up with his replacement, as we speak.

by Anonymousreply 14July 31, 2024 8:00 PM

Typical DL behavior - victim blaming!

That couch was underage and did not give its concent!

by Anonymousreply 15July 31, 2024 9:01 PM

Tiktok bro asks an AI music system to write a song about JD Vance fucking couches, and

HOOOOO-EEEEE.

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