JD Vance’s hatred of people who don’t have children makes sense if he is a closeted homosexual

What is wrong with you?

He doesn't have a core identity. He's a chameleon.

Which Kamala identity is out on the streets?

I’m a single gay man who doesn’t have money so being a parent never even crossed my mind. I’m happily child free and don’t give it much thought. Yet, I’m deeply offended by his comments. I can’t imagine how people who are infertile feel. Or people who lost their child. Or people who never found a partner for whatever reason. He’s needlessly cruel.

Deeply offended on a website that constantly demeans "crotch fruit" and those who "push them out"? LOL I love the pearl clutching of Datalounge posters when it's convenient.

The idea that simply having children makes you less sociopathic is disproven every day

What about all those parents who molest their children? Did they not get the memo?

I agree with r4 on the triggering nature of his remarks across a wide group of voters, not just the fuck trophy free cat ladies (props to cat ladies, btw. Thank you for your contributions to the cat distribution system). I'll bet he wasn't counting on that. Trump even had to come out and "massage" his statements. Lol.

I see this as a good thing. He is the gift the to dems that keeps on giving. Keep it up, stooge.

There is zero proof that he is closeted. However, there is multiple proof that he is unhinged. Like every time he opens his mouth to speak.

I don't think he's a closeted homosexual, he's just pushing the virtues of the "traditional family" as the right wing have always done.

The right has often used it as a homophobic dog whistle, as the traditional definition excludes gay couples who obviously can't have traditional families as they view them - ie a biological father, a biological mother and their children.

I think Vance has been given the brief, but he's managed to fuck it up by insulting straight infertile women - some of them being fairly high profile like Jennifer Aniston - and then he's fucked it up further by doubling down. Aniston rightly pointed out that Vance might feel differently if his daughter were to be infertile in adulthood.

He knew she had a point, but as is usual with Republicans, they never concede so he called her "disgusting" for talking about the fertility of his children. He made the stupid comments and, when faced with a valid rebuttal, he reaches straight for the "you're disgusting!" card in panic because he's backed into a corner and has no way out.

Surely Trump is regretting picking him...

R8

He wears eyeliner and married an Asian woman.

He’s such a weirdo. The perfect running mate for Trump.

He would love to be single and childfree.

He's the gift that keeps on giving.

Why is he so obsessed with kids and people who don't have them? Peter Thiel's other "protege" Blake Masters is the same way

It's that weird tradcath neofascist thing - populating the Earth with the spawn of chosen ones. Remind me, how many crotch droppings does Elmo have with different baby mamas? It must be the population of some small country, like San Marino.

What's this all about?

Has anyone mentioned that childless cat ladies are teaching your children, writing your prescriptions, delivering your mail, doing your taxes, grooming your dog and making the world a better place in a million different ways? How fucking judgmental/stupid can you be?

Has Taylor Swift chimed in? Do you think she might have something to say about this?

One hundred percent closet case. Weirdo.

Several far right groups want to close the borders and then have white people marry young (some of them want to bring back child marriage for girls), have many children, homeschool them and keep them away from schools and colleges. So turning childless people and especially childless women and homosexuals into the devil makes sense. If women won't submit to this plan and if gay men and out and proud then they see that as a threat to the social order they want. How these huge families created by young people with no formal education and no money are going to thrive is never addressed. These people are such individualists that they don't consider the broader picture at all.

Vance calling other people sociopathic is rich.

The whole point is to advertise that he now has a wife and kids.

R18 I think you’re absolutely right but what’s missing from your analysis is that these far right groups often preach that the extermination of their “enemies” is justified and right in God’s eyes. The demonization is just the first step in any classic Fascist playbook. Their “plan” goes no further than that “God will provide”. That Vance either believes this crap, or is just catering to those whack-jobs that do, is deeply disturbing.

We should just give these weirdos Utah and tell them to mind their own business while the rest of the country enjoys itself.

And we should build a wall.

Idaho, not Utah. I don’t want them getting the 2034 Winter Olympics.

That was a Carlin bit I think. Thrown em all in a square state and build a wall!

The eyeliner makes him even more gorgeous!

I think he just comes across as deeply troubled and hasn't yet sorted anything out in his life.

He doesn't make sense. The world is overpopulated and not having children should be considered selfless and desirable.

The only logic to entice procreation from his right wing point of view would be to preserve white race, which is really in decline. But he failed in this too. He gave the wirld few more brown kids. The other day he hissed at people who complained about his marriage and called them white supremacists. Poor guy, he belongs nowhere.

He’s not a chameleon. Chameleons blend seamlessly into their backgrounds. He blatantly changes direction with the wind.

The bigger question is, why does the donald keep picking closet queens as VP, is he really that clueless?

Gay face below.

Damn it.

There's a cat lady in my neighborhood. She's 80, and had her kids a long time ago. She has a shed that functions as a "cattery," and it has its own air conditioner.

She -- at 80!-- catches the stray cats in the neighborhood (and there are many) and takes them to the vet to have them spayed/neutered and tries to find them homes. She also bottle feeds the abandoned kittens.

She's a very sweet old woman. And she's one of my smarter neighbors -- she grew up in the Bronx, went to nursing school, lived in NEPA, and finally came down here to FL to take care of her elderly mother, who's now dead.

I think she's a wonderful person.

Don't mock the cat ladies, JD, you sorry fuck! You couldn't even do what they do.

I’m glad I had an abortion!

R32, your neighbor is a saint, tell her that a random homosexual on Datalounge loves her, Miss Vadge is just a sad, little boy with a bad haircut.

A hot gay man has many things he lacks, such as looks, physical fitness, and the agency to fuck what they actually want to fuck. He’s bitter because he doesn’t have any of these.

If only his mom had decided to be a childless cat lady, we'd all be better off

Hmmm, his patron Thiel is a gay man without children. You cannot make these bizarre wrecks for men up.

My Gawd it must be energy-draining to maintain the level of anger these Repugs seem to want to live in. Even if it’s faux-anger to stir up the base. Do they ever have a light moment?. It’s just exhausting to watch.

Why is this man so immensely proud of the fact that he managed to impregnate a woman?

Closeted ‘mo. Clomo.

Childlessness is a very bizarre topic to make the centerpiece of one's political philosophy.

As another pointed out, Vance is calling "sociopathic" the entire infrastructure of Catholicism, from Pope to priest.

Indeed, one might mention to him that Jesus and his disciples were childless, not to mention not even married.

Or, if one prefers a more "scientific" argument, Vance is out of his mind, insane, and.... WEIRD.

Politically, can Vance be so ignorant, so out of touch with reality, that he cannot grasp that not having children by choice or circumstances isn't a partisan political issue? That there are child-free Republicans?

That probably the majority of gay couples have no children? That young voters still in college probably don't have children, for the most part?

And do parents whose children have passed away still get to vote? Do grandparents get to count their adult children?

That the bee in Vance's personal and political bonnet is that "an absence of children is the definition of having no stake in the future" shows quite the paucity of intelligence, of imagination, of even relating to being human.

That he can see no reason other than having offspring to be concerned about the environment, climate change, public education, democracy itself, shows a mind bereft of a modicum of intellectual maturity.

That is all to say, JD Vance thinks as a two-year-old.

And perhaps such stuntedness is a psychological defense mechanism, IYKWIMAITYD.

AKA, "I'm a father, therefore I can't be gay."

He's crazy

[quote] He wears eyeliner and married an Asian woman

Which doesn’t equate to sucking dick and falling in love with men.

Next.

[quote]Deeply offended on a website that constantly demeans "crotch fruit" and those who "push them out"?

Honey, it's "shit them out".

Trump ushered in an era of insulting your potential voter base. Trump constantly insults the American population and it's various subcultures, and Vance is doing it too. It's a terrible strategy. Sure there will be an uneducated and brainwashed minority who will "rah rah" these insults. But what if someone was dissatisfied with the Biden scene and seriously considering Trump, and then Vance starts calling them a piece of shit who deserves half a vote because they aren't a parent? Bye, you lost the vote. How is this a good strategy?

Vance is using kids to allow MAGAs to feel supeior to the left, whom they assume looks down on them. It's twisted on multiple levels but the central message is I'm better than you because I have kids and you don't.

[quote] I'm better than you because I have kids and you don't.

I wouldn't brag about raising 4 kids by 7 different fathers in a trailer park. With a meth lab next door.

No, you wouldn't because you're normal. But knuckle draggers want to think the left is as obsessed with then as they are with us. It's all about owning the libs and this is a bizarre, illogical, offensive way to do it.

Do Trump's and Vance's rubes actually believe---does VANCE actually believe---that procreation is a partisan issue?! That being single is a partisan issue? That every human is capable of procreation and also has the personal means to procreate, and so they BETTER, even if unpartnered?

And to account for a possible hidden agenda, does Vance hold the notion that only Democrats obtain abortions?

[quote]Josh Marshall @joshtpm

[quote]Vance on Tape: Rape and Incest, "inconvenient", no excuse for abortion ban exceptions.

Sorry, boys and girls, I'm gonna go there.

[italic]I'd like to see how inconvenient he thinks it is when someone rapes him.[/italic]

He should be beaten soundly for wearing this outfit.

Was his topic (r52) to that Catholic group "Jesus Was a Sociopath"?

Good point, R53.

He's probably getting some pressure from Elon & other billionaires. Childlessness is a quagmire of societal behavior issue for those used to exploiting constant population growth under the guise of meritorious capitalism. They're panicking because poor people who can't afford things aren't taking out infinite loans like the wealthy can. Poor people are starting to just avoid stuff like McDonalds or building a family. Fast, instant gratification culture which is very lucrative for capital owners has also destroyed dating for young people. But beautifully, all of their old school methods of coercion are now proving to be flaccid. Religion used to pressure people & the community used to do that too, but both were long ago sacrificed to the altar of money. Even their unserious financial enticements or threats about suffering in one's old age because there aren't enough young people, etc...just don't move the needle meaningfully. Now the roles of both 'exploiter' and 'exploited' in the future will just go to their own awful descendants.

Very chilling, albeit accurate, assessment, R55. Wowza. Late-stage capitalism is heartbreaking.

Makes sense to me op

It almost defies believe that a candidate this terrible is actually in the running for such an important position. Yet here we are. JD Vance, a man who labels others as sociopathic using deeply troubling, nonsensical and out-right sociopathic sound bites. America, 2024.

I hope that there is more dirt to dig up. The dirtier, the better.

Cheeto would have done better to pick the couch as his running mate.

Excuse me, r60?