A question about Mac n cheese

Dairy is unethical!

No reason for you to be hungry, OP. Not if you actually cook and eat food.

Stovetop mac n cheese is never as good as baked. Try using some smoked gouda in the cheese sauce, and add some thinly-sliced fresh jalapeños . Bake, then top with roasted cauliflower and bread crumbs.

Everytime OP begins a sentence with "so," a cow kills itself.

R2 when I say stovetop I don’t mean packaged powdered cheese. I mean original recipes from scratch.

Thanks I will try that btw.

If there were only an internet machine where one could quickly get answers to such things…

I understood, OP -but in my opinion mac n cheese needs to be baked to achieve perfect flavor and texture. Stove top versions can't have a crust of browned cheese on the top...

add an egg or two

R8 Fuck off.

um, some one told you to add cheese. and no attitude.

i thought it was one of your "blowout" meals before as i do not read long, obliviating posts.

I found this recipe online.

OP, we don't start sentences with "So" in this manner.

"many of great recipes for stove top only matching more"

many of for sure

"Despite being a grand chef"

Teafake, selling poptarts from a food cart isn't the same as being a grand chef.

I do a recipe loosely based on Emeril's, you do a layer of creamy mac then sprinkle with shredded cheese. Repeat a couple times. I use a lot of different cheeses. It's a good opportunity to clean out the fridge.

We hardly ever have leftovers, my partner goes crazy on this stuff. He's a Euro, but he sure has taken to American food.

I wonder why no one says "macaroni and cheese" anymore.

It’s all baby talk now, R17. A world of adult infants who talk to each other about “poop” and “veggies”.

R13 why are you so authoritative? I’ve seen other posts from you where you seem to be good natured.

R18 why ruin people’s appetites with that posting. Please go away from this thread.

Diet Nazis need to not post and simply google their problem.

Just before I pop my mac & cheese in the oven, I stir in a box of Good 'n' Plenty.

Try Ina Garten's Mac & Cheese.

$24 a year for mac n cheese recipe threads.

r24 Glad you bumped this one!

OP Imma tell you. Dey be no sech a thang as de Euroopeen style Mac n Cheez. It be de Southeren thang. Jus aks yo mammy how she fixes it.

Lots of great vegan mac n cheese recipes out there. Here's one. Also, try a book called Plantstrong by Rip Esselstyn, it has many excellent vegan recipes.

I've been vegan for 25 years and I can't say that I've ever been any hungrier than I was before hand. So much good vegetarian/vegan food out there now.

Hitler was a vegetarian. There is nothing unethical about eating meat. You are an omnivore. You cannot be at an optimum state of health if you do not eat meat. Vegetarianism is an eating disorder.

R27 Thank you.

Martha Stewart's Macaroni and Cheese 101

R28 That’s a lie about Hitler. He used to lie about that but it’s not true. Every valid historian has contended Hitler ate meat.

Hitler ate my meat

R30 Did Marfa git dat receipt from her boi Snoop Dog? (Govmint cheese make de bes Mac cheez)

"Every valid historian has contended Hitler ate meat"

Teafake you like to make claims such as this, while not once backing it up with factual research.

Every single historian known to man told me directly that Hitler was a vegetarian.

R27 Oooh it's "mac and "cheese"!

I like doing it carbonara style. Using eggs as an emulsifier. I mix 2 whole eggs and 2 yolks with a handful of grated cheese. Boil a pound of pasta, drain lightly, back in the pot, coat with olive oil or bacon fat, and put a bit of hot pasta in the egg mixture to temper it. Then pour the mixture into the pasta. Add 2 more handfuls of cheese and black pepper. It makes a great creamy sauce using finely grated pecorino but I'm not sure if it will work the same way with cheddar. Not a fan of roux, I think the flour dulls the flavor of everything. Not a fan of baking because the sauce always separates on me and gets greasy. If you must have a browned top, just pop it under the broiler for a minute. I've also tried it with sodium citrate which enables you make velveeta out of any cheese you want but then you would have to order that.

I make my own pasta from scratch, a traditional artisinal shape called gregatelli, looks like a prolapsed anus. You have to rinse it over and over and over and over again before you add any cheese.

r37 No

European style? Sure!

Nouilles et fromage en casserole!

I can't wait to hear what you make! You can call your version, Mafuckin Mac & Cheese!

Another failure.

r2 jalapenos and cauliflower in mac and cheese does not sound good.

Clutch your pearls ladies, I add a bit of Velveeta for creaminess

If you’re eating macaroni and cheese, you’re not going hungry.

Some of the fattest people I know are vegetarians.

Gold standard right here.

The bigger challenge is finding a recipe for European-style vegan colored greens.

[quote]100% to the ethical vegetarian

It's not ethical until you put on your big boy pants, cut out dairy altogether, and go full vegan. That said, there are many good dairy alternatives and filling vegan meals. If you're able, I recommend patronizing a Slutty Vegan near you and ordering a Sloppy Toppy.

You’re not ethical if you’re killing entire plants for your own consumption, you self righteous twat. If you were ethical you’d convert to Jainism and cut out potatoes, onions, garlic — basically all root vegetables and tubers.

"teafcake" I can leave Datalounge happy now. Plus it's true. Every vegetarian I know has that tofu tire around their gut. Nowhere else are they fat. Just the tofu tire. Which of course is the most deadly place to have fat.

I hear the cries of the baby vegetables!

I’m sorry vegans. I just wanted to start slowly so I’ll be successful. Just love me. And r45 you silly goose. It’s collard not colored greens. I watch the vid now so want some lobster man cheese. Is it ethical to be a pescatarian. They don’t really have thoughts like we do.

Your loss, R42. The bite of the jalapeño is mellowed by the smoky gouda flavor. And we are talking about one small pepper in a large dish -maybe a bit in every third bite. The crunchy cauliflower on top gives more texture/bite -not to mention upping the fiber and nutritional profile of the dish. This isn't my own creation -it's the most popular dish at a local restaurant.

One word: Velveeta.

There's no such thing as European "mac n cheese".

We don't eat that shit.

R50 Have you tried putting lobster on mac & cheese, burgers, tacos, tater tots, pizza, waffles, fondue, potato skins, nachos, creamed corn, toast points, lemon orzo, expired AA batteries, broken glass or radioactive contrast material leaked onto a freshly toasted slice of sourdough?

I had some of the best Mac n Cheese when I was in Europe. Luxembourg as a matter of fact. So fuck off. Plus you should have seen the faces on my friends in Germany when my Rice Krispies arrived in the mail and I was able to make Rice Krispie treats. They were all over them and licking their fingers. Twenty of them were gone in about three minutes. Stop acting like Europeans all eat like they were a modern day Louis VXI.

Place precooked noodles in baking dish cut up 3/4block velvetta ,i small block colby schredded sprinkle over cheese, add milk to almost top of noodles, bake 350° for about 45 min remove foil covering dish bake until top is a nice browish color , cool a tad and serve. Northern south recipe.

R55 We know exactly who you.

R54 No I haven’t tried that yet. Do you have recipe instructions for those ingredients. Thanks in advanced.

OP, check out Serious Eats for various creamy stove top Mac and cheese recipes. I can’t say which one might be the best, but they get into the science of the melting, etc.

Also, it is possible to replicate sodium citrate with lemon juice and baking soda. I haven’t tried it in Mac and cheese but I have in queso and it kept everything melty.

R59 Thank you.

Still none of our DLers from across the pond are willing to share a nice recipe for their European style collared greens?

R61 I don’t believe collards ever became a thing in Europe. Maybe some Jamaicans in South London but that’s about it.

r61 in Italy they eat friarelli, braised broccoli rabe greens. I had some on a crusty baguette with sliced porchetta and smoky baconnaise. Ooh child!

Collards were a thing in Europe.

I prefer baked mac cheese and usually add thyme or paprika (and extra mixed in the buttered breadcrumbs). It really elevates the flavor. I would try that in a stovetop batch as well.

I like it with a crunch top. With hotdogs on the side. Sometimes I put ketchup on it.

European style chitlins, anybody?

R67 you do realize pig intestine is a delicacy in several countries, Poland being one of them.

Where are the old world recipes from our Polish DL epicures though? And still crickets on recipes for European style collared greens?

Here's a traditional German recipe for mac n cheese.

And here's a traditional Polish version.

How about a French recipe?

Let's not leave out the Swiss!

Here's a Spanish version (but it looks more Italian to me)...

r67 the French have andouillette.

R69, collards are native to Europe and have been eaten there since the Greeks. They are still a traditional dish in Herzegovina, Dalmatia, and Montenegro.

Not a fan of mac and cheese. Mac and tomato sauce, ok.

[quote]R17: I wonder why no one says "macaroni and cheese" anymore.

I do, but that's just me.

R78 I actually do conversationally. I usually don’t say Mac and cheese. It’s weird that I chose to font it that way.

The trend of throwing some lobster on top of something plebeian like burgers or mac & cheese is just a sad cliche now. They charge an extra 25 bucks and the tourists feel like they are eating something classy and "elevated".

R80 Lobster on a burger should be a criminal offense.

OP, I haven’t made this, but I have it saved in my recipes. It might be what you are looking for.

Is milk ethical if the cow is already dead? What about a burger?

OP- I have a question for you.

Why don't you just say - Macaroni and Cheese?

OP is exhausting.

The holier part refers to Swiss cheese brain, one assume.

No it’s supposed to refer to black religious overzealousness.

R86 Why must you racialize everything as it pertains to me. Why?

[quote]Long story short, I know Imma be hungry.

Knock it off with the "Imma." You're lowering the standards of DL, which is nearly impossible to do.

R88 but what about creativity and individuality. Why be a conformist?

How soulless do you have to be to not like mac n cheese?

[quote]I will devout myself

Devout is not a verb, OP. Perhaps you meant "devote."

Is cunt a verb?

R91 I did.

Who wants to taste that good and plenty mac & cheese?