BREAKING! Robert Downey Jr. will play Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four

Also, Avengers: Kang Dynasty is officially killed. Kang is done. It’s been replaced by Avengers: Doomsday

I love him but wish he would stay away from comic book roles.

He was great as Iron Man.

Do something else.

R2 he did do something else. He won an Oscar. Now he’s ready to do another Comic Book Movie where he will be overpaid

Money is worth something.

I can hardly wait.

Why does Dr. Doom have to be in every FF movie?

It's like having Luthor in almost every Superman movie.

Isn't he elderly now?

R6 because he is their main big bad guy

r8: But you don't have the Joker in every Batman movie, or the Green Goblin in every Spider-Man movie.

Why not have the FF fight the Puppet Master for once, or the Frightful Four?

Because Batman has many iconic villains. As does Superman. FF specific villains aren’t iconic outside of Doom

How many times are they going to remake The Fantastic Four before they just realize it doesn't work? There's been like, what, 4-5 bombs spanning 30 years? Give it up.

R11 the 2005 movie bombed? No, it didn’t.

The Fantastic Four at San Diego Comic-Con.

Did Pedro lose weight? Fantastic Four filming starts Monday, July 29th.

I’m sure he had to lose weight for the role. They’re provided nutritionists and personal trainers when they take on these roles

See this annoys me because now D Jr. is just going to be playing Tony Stark as shtick. It comes down to: what is an Avengers movie anymore? Is it still an Avengers movie when the Avengers are no longer the Avengers?

Fantastic Four is introducing what exactly? It’s set in the sixties but in an alternate universe. Why is Tony Stark an old man in the alternate 1960s?

R12 - 2005 FF had a budget of $87M not counting marketing which can double or even triple that amount. It made $333M worldwide. Not a bomb but not a raging hit, especially when compared to the Marvel Universe about to unleash itself upon the world or the then-current X-Men movies. And yes, I know it spawned a sequel, which killed the franchise for awhile.

[quote] Because Batman has many iconic villains. As does Superman.

then why do they only use Luthor and General Zod?

R16 stop speaking about what you don’t know. Youre speaking of 2005 marketing budgets in a modern lens. Back then they didn’t spend nearly as much to market as they do now. Not to mention FF had a lot of ad placements aka they were paid by companies to display their merchandise.

A sequel was rushed out because it did well.

Stay in your lane.

Downey’s hubris is cashing checks again. How much Prada does that queen need? In other words, Sūdi in Latvian.

$333 million in 2005 was a lot. Very few movies made the money you see these days. Spider-Man was an outlier back then. X-Men made less than Fantastic Four but was considered a massive success.

Who fucking cares?

Clearly you do

Who cares about anything posted here, r21? Who cares if you live or die?

“Why Robert Downey Jr. Playing Doctor Doom is Bad for the Dems”

Okay, I have to ask it.

Is someone going to notice that Doom looks like Tony Stark? Or are they just going to skip over that part?

I'd love them to explore the Stark character in a different way - this just seems like desperation on the part of the casting director.

What a stupid casting decision.

ALso, really annoyed that all that Kang build up through movies and series is just going to be ignored now.

Every time a Fantastic Four movie is in the works, everyone makes a big deal out of it as if they’ve ever done anything at the box office.

It’s a licensing situation. Certain IP’s have a time period before the rights are put back on the market. I think as long as an IP is in production, studios can retain the rights.

Like for example, Dimension Films lost the rights to “Halloween” by 2015 after going only 6 years without making a movie.

So this is all bollocks.

R27 that was the case for when it was Fox owned, dingbat. Disney/Marvel owns its property 100% again. It’s going nowhere. It was just bought a few years ago. Stupid ass

This is too bad. RDJ will stink up the movie with his ego and OTT acting.

Too.

Damn.

Old.

Jeez, RDJ. Do something else. Everyone knows he made a fortune playing Tony Stark, he doesn’t need the money. That was a different era of Marvel. Just let it be. He’ll regret doing this when people say all he can play is “Tony Stark” or it’s not as good as Ironman, etc. Just shows how much he needs the attention.

Also shows he can’t really develop his own material or get anything else made.

Also, Vanessa Kirby - just taking Emily Blunt’s scraps. She’d probably marry Krasinski if they ever got divorced.

He could get his own stuff materialized if he wanted to. Like you said r31, he made a fortune. He’s at a place where he can do whatever he wants, and he has never been the artistic type. He’s a MOVIE STAR, not an artist. He follows the $$$.

To R6, R15, R31

You do see the RDJr Doom is in a movie called AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY, right?

It's NOT a Fantastic Four movie, it's an Avengers movie.

And, from speculation of comics nerds it could be based on a Multi-Verse "Variant" comic run where Anthony Stark is Dr. Doom --- Or, it's just fun casting letting RDJr play a new character in the MCU

Either way, it's not a Fantastic Four movie. Galactus is going the be the baddie in the next FF movie

R33, here...

Ok, now I've actually read OPs title and noticed it WRONGLY says "Fantastic Four"

Now i know why some commenters didn't know it's an AVENGERS MOVIE and not a FF movie

So, my R33 was for OP mainly I guess

I mean, Jemus OP, it was very blatantly stated he was Doom in "Avengers: Doomsday" <<--- it's pretty much right there in the title.

Sorry to R6, R15, R31 as I missed OPs wrongwrongwrong title mentioning Fantastic Four.

That’s all right, R33. You’re very polite.

I don’t really pay attention to Marvel movies so I have no idea what you’re posting about anyway.

But thank you for clarifying that.

I do notice there are other people on social media who thought RDJ had left this behind but, it’s his career.

^^ R31

R16 is correct, Fantastic Four was not a significant hit. It was #13 that year.

For comparison, Superman Returns was #5 in 2006 and even that never got a sequel.

I suspect R18 and the person calling everyone else stupid is most likely Davida Rochelle, who probably also started the thread.

Yup.

[bold]BREAKING! Robert Downey Jr. will play Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four[/bold]

He was announced as Doctor Doom tonight at San Diego Comic Con. He will officially take on a new Marvel role.

[bold]BREAKING! Robert Downey Jr. will play Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four[/bold]

Also, Avengers: Kang Dynasty is officially killed. Kang is done. It’s been replaced by Avengers: Doomsday

[bold]BREAKING! Robert Downey Jr. will play Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four[/bold]

R2 he did do something else. He won an Oscar. Now he’s ready to do another Comic Book Movie where he will be overpaid

[bold]BREAKING! Robert Downey Jr. will play Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four[/bold]

R6 because he is their main big bad guy

[bold]BREAKING! Robert Downey Jr. will play Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four[/bold]

Because Batman has many iconic villains. As does Superman. FF specific villains aren’t iconic outside of Doom

[bold]BREAKING! Robert Downey Jr. will play Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four[/bold]

R11 the 2005 movie bombed? No, it didn’t.

[bold]BREAKING! Robert Downey Jr. will play Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four[/bold]

I’m sure he had to lose weight for the role. They’re provided nutritionists and personal trainers when they take on these roles

[bold]BREAKING! Robert Downey Jr. will play Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four[/bold]

R16 stop speaking about what you don’t know. Youre speaking of 2005 marketing budgets in a modern lens. Back then they didn’t spend nearly as much to market as they do now. Not to mention FF had a lot of ad placements aka they were paid by companies to display their merchandise.

A sequel was rushed out because it did well.

Stay in your lane.

[bold]BREAKING! Robert Downey Jr. will play Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four[/bold]

$333 million in 2005 was a lot. Very few movies made the money you see these days. Spider-Man was an outlier back then. X-Men made less than Fantastic Four but was considered a massive success.

[bold]BREAKING! Robert Downey Jr. will play Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four[/bold]

Clearly you do

[bold]BREAKING! Robert Downey Jr. will play Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four[/bold]

R27 that was the case for when it was Fox owned, dingbat. Disney/Marvel owns its property 100% again. It’s going nowhere. It was just bought a few years ago. Stupid ass

[bold]BREAKING! Robert Downey Jr. will play Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four[/bold]

He could get his own stuff materialized if he wanted to. Like you said r31, he made a fortune. He’s at a place where he can do whatever he wants, and he has never been the artistic type. He’s a MOVIE STAR, not an artist. He follows the $$$.

R18 is having a hissy fit. Hunty, you're a little too involved. Maybe you need a little sunlight and fresh air.

He’s getting a lot of mocking outside of Comic Con

He he

As is Marvel

"Oppenheimer" got him the Oscar but not $25 mill plus points. The boy needs to pay the rent.

[quote] The boy needs to pay the rent boys.

Fixed it for you.

Did he already spend the 77 million he got for Endgame?

Doom never shows his face, which was mangled in a hubristic science experiment - it's a core part of his persona. The Avengers won't have any issue of 'recognising' him.

Downey?

Well, I wasn't going to watch this anyway.

Exactly. If they do show his face it will be deformed.

There was a comic run about ten years ago called Infamous Iron Man, which had an antiheroic Victor Von Doom acting as Iron Man.

I wonder if Avengers: Doomsday is going to borrow from the Emperor Doom story from the late 80s. Kang Dynasty took its title from a series that ran in 2001, but it also had a very large set piece where the Avengers surrendered to Kang after he launched a devastating attack on Washington DC, which really went over like a lead balloon after 9/11.

The Emperor Doom story had him using Purple Man to warp reality so that the world thought he was ruler, and only Wonder Man knew anything was wrong. Since there’s a Wonder Man series coming, should we hear about David Tennant coming back to the MCU…

r42

HAHAHA

I actually thought they announced the Xmen at SDCC

X-Men may get an announcement at D23 in two weeks

Excellent contribution as always, VotN/R49. I’m wondering if they’ll have a similar desert abduction story as our MCU’s Tony Stark for this Earth’s Victor Von Doom (though maybe set in the Balkans). But instead of the suit being built in the cave, he’ll bungle some experiment that gives him powers and we have our MCU antihero “I…am…Doom!”

I would love to see David Tennant in the MCU. I still think he's sexy as hell.

I love RDJ but this is either going to be brilliant or - much more likely - a disaster. It will only work if he plays Doom as the opposite of Stark - someone glacial and humorless. Doom is a control freak.

R37 it was a hit at the time. Yes. It was. Especially for a Marvel character film. DC movies always did well at the box office. Marvel films didn’t. Blade was the first semi-hit a Marvel character had. Spider-Man was the only big box office hit Marvel had for a while. X-Men made $296 million worldwide and was deemed a big hit. Why? Because it was the best Marvel had at the time.

Stop comparing apples to oranges. And get a job. You’ve been posting on here all weekend with no end.

R38 have you looked at your own posting history? Or the fact you had time to even post that at early AM hours? Most people are out partying or in bed. Not on Datalounge looking up peoples posts.

R39 too involved in the person looking up someone’s posting history at 4am. Get a job. Youre an embarrassment to gay men.

R45 no. He’s filthy rich. Clearly he wants more easy $$$$. Of course the broke bitches who post on here all day wouldn’t understand that.

His "costume" for the movie looks like it was made by the 7th grade drama class.

R18 is the Troll of Trolls.

The I Hate Emily Blunt Troll, The I Know What’s Best for David Corenswet’s Career Troll, The Matt Bomer is in an Abusive Relationship that Involves all of Hollywood Troll and The Everyone Who Disagrees With Me is Autistic Troll.

Ignore or block him..

Obese, Cluster B, face covered in cheap chocolate. He truly thinks he’s a Hollywood insider when he’s closer to a psychotic stalker. He despises successful people for obvious reasons.

Thankfully, his mother hoses him down once a week before the smell gets too bad.

[quote] What a stupid casting decision.

You think so?

Wow, I guess we’ll change all our plans for our multi-billion dollar film franchise based on what some ill queen said on an anonymous gay message board.

🙄

It seems a very strange move. Downey Jr. was so iconic as Iron Man, it seems unimaginable that anyone would be able to watch him as Dr Doom and not see Tony Stark. It will be very confusing I think. It will take me out of the movie. It will be uncanny and really difficult to keep suspension of disbelief going.

Seems like a not very good choice to me, on many fronts.

Dude. They’re not even filming yet. They were just having fun with the announcement.

[quote] It will take me out of the movie.

It sounds like you have a limited mind and no imagination.

That’s really sad. I pity you.

R62 it’s an official announcement which means that is the plan, “dude”. No one said they started filming yet, “dude”.

Many people are speaking against this casting choice.

I thought the release date of the movie was 2025... and they haven't started filming yet? I must have misread that... 2026 at the earliest?

[quote] Many people are speaking against this casting choice.

Only losers like you with no life.

There are far more important concerns for real people.

I don’t see too many people happy with this decision. You don’t take an actor who is iconic for playing Iron Man and cast him as another character. That’s like casting Michael Keaton as Joker. It just won’t work and no one is gonna like that.

R67 yet you’re all over this thread. You don’t have to post. You can just scroll by like a sane adult.

[quote] no one is gonna like that.

I guess the thousands of people applauding and cheering in the auditorium were forced at gunpoint.

Try thinking before typing next time.

[quote]And, from speculation of comics nerds it could be based on a Multi-Verse "Variant" comic run where Anthony Stark is Dr. Doom ---

What a fresh new twist!

If there's one thing audiences are not sick of, it's the multi-verse!

[quote] If there's one thing audiences are not sick of, it's the multi-verse!

Well, judging by the opening weekend Deadpool and Wolverine had…

r61

good news... we never see Doom's face... hell it wouldn't shock me if they went the darth vader route and just used his voice

Doctor Doom is not the only main villain in FF. Annilus, Blastar, Reed Richard's father, Namor, Richards and Von Doom were supposed to be college friends - downey is 10 years older than Pascal.

R74 No one said he is the ONLY villain. He is the only iconic one though. Most people don’t know any FF villains outside of Doom.

Agreed. Them just getting rid of The Kang Dynasty is silly and it’s even more silly to cast RDJ as Doom.

OMG I was waiting how long it would be before Davida told some to get a job!

Deadpool and Wolverine is a parody of multiverse films. People like it because they are tired of the trend and enjoy watching it being mocked.

It isn’t a parody. It’s a send off to the Fox Marvel films and its forgotten characters and transitions Deadpool and this new Wolverine variant into the MCU.

R59 you are having an autistic meltdown

Do you need a Lil Buddy?

It’s a parody of the genre. It’s completely metatextual. The idea of film “worlds” being different based on studio licensing deal from twenty years ago is itself ridiculous. The average person does not care that 20th Century Fox doesn’t exist anymore. Fox’s universes didn’t even acknowledge each other.

Speaking of studios, it is ironic that Marvel has basically replicated one of the most unpopular aspects of WarnerBros/DC’s Snyderverse films, which was killing off Superman in Batman V Superman and then having home come back, but as evil (this never came to fruition because Justice League Part 2 was cancelled, but the storyline was set up in BVS.) People called that decision lazy back then, and this decision is just as lazy.

At this point I don’t know if Feige should be in charge any more. It seems like too much power is concentrated into his singular vision, which no longer takes into account the reality that people are tired of superhero films and tired of multiverses. Rather than saying, “Let’s try to do something else,” he just doubled down on his worst instincts. Which is exactly what happened with Zack Snyder, he took the criticism about Man of Steel very personally and doubled down on the most controversial aspects in BVS and made one of the worst superhero movies of all time.

R83, I generally agree with you save for one thing.

Evil Superman is a contradiction in terms, at least cinematically. There is no indication that anything in Superman would ever lead him down such a path. In fact, evil Batman would be far more obvious a choice.

Tony Stark is a deeply damaged, conflicted and often frightening character. It doesn't take much to imagine an evil version evolving from what we know about his intelligence, addiction issues and family background. If that's the true identity of Doom this time around, RDJ may very well pull it off. But it would mean a completely new approach to the persona - someone cold, calculating, of limited emotional interest and range - the antithesis of how Iron Man was played.

Deadpool 3 was 100% a love letter and send off to the FOX properties. All those forgotten and smaller or more unsuccessful characters trapped in the void, Deadpool having to travel through timelines to find a Wolverine who can fill the void his universe lost when Wolverine died in Logan. It’s why we saw Johnny Storm, Elektra, Blade, etc. and Gambit said he was born in the void.

R84 not Snyder’s Superman. Snyder characterized Superman in BVS as deeply self-loathing and ambivalent about using his powers to help people. I read one analysis that Snyder treats Superman as an anti-Jesus, and having him be resurrected only to become evil completed the parallel.

It’s extremely nihilistic but starts to make sense when you realize Snyder was raised Christian Scientist.

Superman was afraid to use his powers to help people because he always received backlash and hate from the public for doing so.

BvS is awesome and I stand by that.

He’s making BANK to come back. As we knew.

Robert Downey Jr. will be making "significantly more" than $80 MILLION to play Doctor Doom, @Variety reports.

Downey's deal includes private jet travel, dedicated security and a whole “trailer encampment.”

Jesus Christ Popcrave sucks.

The 80 million is for the RUSSOS.

Downey is making MORE.

Most likely, $50 million per picture with performance escalators instead of backend.

Unfortunately, a colossal waste of money given how unpopular this announcement is.

What exactly is a "trailer encampment?"

It makes me think of a concentration camp, for some reason.

At this point I think Feige is writing his own obituary at Marvel; the idea that you are spending $100 million on just star and director of an FX heavy film is grotesque. Endgame’s budget was up to $400 million; this is one quarter of the budget of endgame just for three people to show up to work. And for basically a Fantastic Four movie. With $50 million per film going to someone who will be wearing a mask in most of his scenes.

Definitely a complete waste of money. They'd do better casing an unknown and creating a new star, than stunt-casting an old has-been that has already been in a dozen freaking movies in the franchise.

Meh. I was more interested in David Harbour's appearance for Thunderbolts.

R92 $100 million on one star and Director? The DirectorS are making $80 million. RDJ is making about $50 million per film not counting the backend percentage deals his contracts always come with. That’s a lot more than $100 million

R93 casting an unknown in the role won’t generate buzz. They need the buzz right now

R95 ~$80 million for two films is ~$40 million per film or ~$20 million each per person per film. ~$40 million plus ~$50 million is ~$90 million.

Do you not bother to think of these things before you post.

Why do I bother replying to Davida Rochelle.

R98 fucking retard, you stated as a whole. Not per film. Read your own post

R99 Get a job!

RDJ will be getting “significantly more” than $80 million. He’s making much more than the Russo brothers. He is also getting

-Private jet travel

- Dedicated security on set

- A whole "trailer encampment" on set

This is possibly the worst career decision he has ever made.

Outside of the whole going to jail and getting raped thing.

It does come as at unfortunate time when so many in the industry are struggling and losing their jobs

Why would you pay that much for Downey Jr? Doom is in armour and his face is severely scarred so you will not see him. You could have gotten anyone to play doom for probably 1/10th of the price.