Assuming Trump loses in November

Full on dementia.

LIke Rumpelstiltskin he will scream and cry and stomp his feet so far into the ground that he creates a chasm and falls into it, never to be seen again.

Pretend he won and keep soaking his base for money.

I honestly think he will pass on by 2028, whether he wins in November or not. He will join my beloved dog Tillie.

We throw salt on him so he shrivels-up and dies like the slug he is

R4, your beloved dog Tillie is burning forever in hell?

He will die and his dumb ass kids will be nothing. They can continue to steal from the dumbest of our kind. I don't care but I will never allow them to be in control of my country or my money. Thankfully there are many on my side. The side of justice and truth. Stay strong gays. We are almost there...

I actually do feel a corner has been turned. I don't see Trump winning.

He's definitely running again. He's a fundraising machine and as such won't be able to resist all the easy money that flows his way in a presidential campaign. Yes, even from prison.

Oh honey. Death happens. Big Macs are poison.

Die in the grease fire in Mar-a-lago

[quote]Run again in 2028?

No fucking way. He'll most likely be dead, or at the very least incapacitated. I have no doubt that 2024 will be Trump's last dump.

A solo Vacation in Alaska to lick his wounds after loosing but steps in a bear trap and dies alone. All this after suffering for three weeks in the Forrest with the wild coyotes and vultures waiting for him to die. They pick his putrid plump flesh and gorge on the maggots that emerge in copious successive hatches till only orange bones remain. Rodents arrive to naw those orange bones like a bag of Doritos.

If Trump loses this year, he will die in jail.

The Supreme Court won't save him. It should be noted that the less hard-line Republicans on the court were willing to go against him at his weakest, but sided with him this summer when Trump seemed to be the likely winner. A Trump vanquished at the polls in November and convicted of crimes is no longer of use to John Roberts or Kavanagh or even Barrett. They'll be glad to be rid of him so that the GOP can return to merely flirting with fascism while taking a hardline on tax cuts and corporate omnipotence.

He won’t admit any loss.

& the GOP will find someone even worse for 2028 - that’s been their steady trajectory since Reagan.

He’ll end up in exile in a State-provided villa in North Korea’s Songdowon Sea Bathing Resort, with a pied a terre in the Ryugyong Hotel in delightful downtown Pyongyang, busily avoiding all extradition orders while crazily tweeting about nasty women.

Korean fried chicken is delicious!

In four years he'll be 82. Double diapers.

The GOP will be done with him after November, but he'll run again regardless. Deplorables are addicted to him and will donate all their life savings to him after four years of Kamala.

When it becomes obvious to him that Kamala will kick his ass, he will flee.

Probably to somewhere in ME. Pootz don’t want him, so he will need to go somewhere that does.

He will scream and rage about another “stollen” election and file lawsuits to get EVs thrown out so SCROTUS can declare him the “winner “. That was the plan the last time, but it didn’t work out so well.

They’ll run that same playbook again. This time, they will target multiple states that flipped blue to physically attack for the electors to cast their EVs in December.

This might fly where the governor is a thug (Virginia), but in other states, these thugs will be met with the National Guard.

He'll flee to Maine?

He’s not going to jail. He’ll appeal all his cases for the next 10 years and die playing golf at 90.

r21 With a fucking smile on his face, too.

I hope that his political enablers suffer for supporting an insane candidate.

If Trump wins or if he loses in 2024, it will be the last campaign. After leaving office in 2029 or after defeat in 2024, I don't think he will return to business. He likes speaking, so my prediction is that he'll just become a professional speaker.

Numerous court appearances in his pyjamas with a health care assistant (lawyer with stethoscope) at his side, but no jail. The Supreme Court already gave him one gift that should see to that or complicate the possibility of jail, and he can always use appeals to delay the issue (or return to his friends at the Supreme Court) until death. Sadly, he will never spend a day in a jail's Diaper Unit.

Trump should hang it up right now. He won't win, his fans are less and not enough. People are sick of him. He's stupid, always has been and should never been allowed to be president. It's a gigantic embarrassment that he was.

Run again in 28? Are you kidding. He'll either be in the depths of dementia by then, or more likely, dead. If he's not still in prison, that is. If Trump loses this election I predict he won't live a year.

The best-case scenario is that the GOP dumps him, and he runs again in 2028 as an independent.

^ I agree, the shame of losing yet again and the pressure of all his upcoming trials will put him in a tailspin that he'll never recover from

If he's still alive and not in prison he'll likely be in a maximum security twilight home being hand fed his meals by a Jamaican woman

He's in bad shape physically and mentally now at 78 and has fading stamina. In 2028, he would be 82-83 and most likely significantly impaired if not deceased.

^ By 2028 the Republican Party will be a faded memory

In many ways, it already is R32. It certainly looks nothing like the traditional GOP - more like the Dump Party.

The past week has shown a key divide between the Democrats and the GOP.

The GOP knows (and has known for years) that they cannot drop Trump and still be viable in national elections. It would fracture the party.

On the other hand, the Democrats' nominee withdrew from the race and almost immediately support -- in the form of endorsements, volunteer commitments, and donations -- came pouring in. GOP leadership must be seething about the fact the Democrats are deeply unified, despite the "Should Biden stay or should he go?" debate within the party since the debate.

It's taken a while, but Trump really has destroyed the GOP from the inside, just as he destroys everything he touches.

^ That whole Democrat division, decision and unification happened over a mere two week period. Democrats are like family, you fight, hash out your differences and move ahead. Republicans will burn it all to the ground over Trump

R13

I really like what you’ve done here but the thought of Trump in nature doesn’t compute. Still, you have a good style and I hope you flesh out this idea…🤩

Re: MAGA: If he loses, that trauma, four more winters of COVID, and death from bad habits/old age will decimate a great deal of his base. Racists and opportunists will always remain. But they are already outnumbered.

As for Diaper Donnie, I think he will try to stay out of jail and avoid having to plead guilty or go through the trials at the state level for election interference by attempting to cut a deal to return the top secret documents he still retains.

He'll be told that any deal he makes will include jail and a guilty plea. And that he will still have to stand trial per state. SCOTUS will pretend they don't know him.

He will go off the deep end when he realizes he's cornered. Then, he will barricade himself in either his airplane or his home with his private security force, the remaining documents, family, and akolytes.

He will "address the nation" via video from his chosen location and make threats towards others while ranting about how unfair life has been to him and bigging himself up as the best and the most loved.

Things will spiral from there, depending on if he is in his home (think: Waco compound vibes) or airplane (kamikaze).

It sounds crazy because he is crazy. He is chaos. He is demented and impulsive and gives zero shits about anyone else.

If he loses, it will end him. But his end will be a flaming bag of dog turds instead of a whimper. An old malignant narcissist like him won't go out quietly. He'll tear up and tear down as much as he can so he can get max entertainment and watch the highest number of people suffer, before he goes.

[quote]He will go off the deep end when he realizes he's cornered. Then, he will barricade himself in either his airplane or his home with his private security force, the remaining documents, family, and akolytes.

I know this is a fantasy, and it's a rather juvenile fantasy to boot. Trump is not going to "barricade" himself anywhere or "kamikaze" his plane or "Waco" Maralago. He's going to live in luxury and stay on the margins of American political life until he dies. The best-case scenario is that he loses in November, because -- politically -- he'll never come back from that. I've said for years that he'll never see the inside of a jail cell.

“I’m convinced”

I’d be curious what other political predictions the OP has made on DL over the past year?

R39, I'd be curious to know if you can actually read, as what I said was "I'm unconvinced."

^ Ooh, BURN! 😂

R40

I can now :-)

I think, and hope, it’s likely the SOB suffers a massive heart attack or stroke and topples over dead even before the election.

[quote]If he loses, it will end him. But his end will be a flaming bag of dog turds instead of a whimper. An old malignant narcissist like him won't go out quietly. He'll tear up and tear down as much as he can so he can get max entertainment and watch the highest number of people suffer, before he goes.

100% agree R37 and very eloquently put.

The fat fuck is going to flee. He will supposedly have business or a a golf tournament in Dubai or the Saudi and he will not return, living in captive faux-luxury until he dies. Far from U.S. legal system with all those Saudi millions Jared secured for the family at his disposal. And good riddance.

I'm holding out for a stroke that sees him floundering about in a wheelchair. Lara behind him, pushing. Ivanka in Israel, Kimberly nowhere to be found, the boys both in jail. Shit blasting out Trump's asshole and spraying all over her clomping hooves. A smile stapled to her face. "Dam'n bas-tuds!" Trump croaks. "Wanna nother hamburder!!" Another shower of liquid shit. "I have shit feet," Lara thinks. "Shitty, shitty feet." A photog pops a pic for TMZ. "Hey, Lara, have a moment to tell us how life in the nursing home house arrest is going?" The smile remains fixed. More liquid shit. The soft sound of squelching in her shoes.

Rally at the Four Seasons!

I'm expecting a full-blown rant at Republicans: "[italic]You didn't do enough for me![/italic]"

He’ll continue to scam people for money. Nothing will change.

You silly fucks. I will decide who wins not you. Now fuck off

Divorce, followed by Trump & Roger Stone admitting they’ve been lovers all along. They’ll get a cute little place in Wilton Manor. Maybe a couple of pugs. Happy hour every Sunday. Early bird dinners. It’ll be nice.

Money is everything to him. No money, no Trump. I imagine he and Lara are secretly pilfering from the RNC. He never set-up housekeeping in Palm Beach so there is the real possibility of disappearing. Or faking his death.

His whole life has been crime. Rape, theft, tax dodging, tax fraud, other fraud, defaulting on loans, bribery attempts, stealing documents... He jokes about murder and Al Capone and Hannibal Lecter at his rallies.

Trump's cognitive decline is worse than Biden's but everybody grades him on a severe curve. Trump ran for two reasons: As president he can close all the pending federal cases on him and stay out of prison, and he doesn't want to be seen as the 2020 loser.

However, between the pending criminal cases that will play out and his onset dementia, he will not even know his own name by 2028.

[quote]However, between the pending criminal cases that will play out and his onset dementia, he will not even know his own name by 2028.

His 2028 rallies will mostly be just him playing out his fantasy dinner with his favourite actor of all time, dr. Hannibal Lecter.

If he loses, he won’t get any younger, smarter or healthier in the next four years. His legal problems won’t just disappear. And if indeed he does have some form of dementia it won’t get any better. Add in that two time loser stank and he’s done. It’s now or never.

The 'steep curve' has to with Trump's limited cognitive ability in the first place. He's going from bad to worse as a decline.

TRUMP HIDES AND WONT DEBATE WHAT IS HE AFRAID OF ?

That would be a national ad I’d be working on right now

I think he will debate. He'll enjoy tearing into her about The Border along with other Dem "failures". Moreover, they're confident she'll be seen as some combination of ditzy and a harpy. [Bold]SURPRISE![/bold].

R57 check with Don he says he won’t debate her.

He has said he intends to debate her.

He seems hysterical and terrified. They've probably wasted millions on now useless campaign materials. LOL!

He'll sue the Democrats to get that money back!

Problem solved!

He won’t go away. If he loses we’ll have Coup 2.0

^ He already said he was going to do that... and we laughed and laughed... *sigh*

This election is his last stand as a political force. If he loses, it's over. The GOP will finally realize it can't continue with him as its focus and move on. The Supreme Court won't throw him any more lifelines. He won't go to prison because a former president being put in prison is bad optics for a nation like the United States, so he will be confined to Mar-a-Lago.

He will claim the election was stolen (again), and that he'll run again in 2028; his zombie followers will believe it and continue to give him money. But they will begin to dwindle as they finally stop gaslighting themselves and realize 2016 was an outlier and the glory days of 2017-2021 will never return.

His dementia will rapidly accelerate as the reality of losing again sinks in. The online shitposting will get even more bizarre and incoherent (if that's possible).

By 2028, if he hasn't already died, he'll barely function mentally.

If Kamala and her AG pick do their jobs, Trump will be in jail!

Within six months scum trump will be wandering around Mara Lardo with half his hair missing, what's left will be dyed bright orange and floating around his head in wispy tufts, crusty pink scalp clearly visible.

He'll be shirtless; white plump, pasty moobs on full display. Voluminous, stained, white pantaloons covering man diapers filled to the brim while he shouts aggrieved insults on all who draw near.

He'll be waving a cane that he uses to keep from toppling forward. Melania, kids, will all be missing and the only ones left will be paid staff and Lindsay Graham, who rents a room in the place while he shares the caregivers. Lindsay and trump will argue viciously all day.

^I'd like to watch that reboot of The Odd Couple.

No r65. If American citizens don’t see him held accountable, their faith in government will continue to disintegrate. The People need to clearly see that there is a single system of justice, not one for the rich and one for the rest of us. He MUST be held accountable if Dems want our fullest support.

R69 does not speak for DL or Dems but for all Americans.

Personally if trump is defeated I don’t give a fuck what happens to him.

I’d be happy if he was free, ignored, and poor. The emphasis on poor and ignored. I think Americans would like to put this shit behind them and move on.

I realize I don’t speak for the progressives.

Demented or in jail, he will run again in 2028 unless he dies. And the GQP will fall in line yet again.

[quote] [R69] does not speak for DL or Dems but for all Americans.

The polls show that tens of millions apparently don’t agree, so unless you can successfully wish them into the cornfield, r69 does not speak for all Americans.

We have a country of well over 330 million people . 10s of millions ain’t shit.

But I’d love to see the polls not that I doubt you.

OK never mind I looked it up myself. Less than half the country wants to see Trump in prison.

And bitches 48% is in fact less than half.

I don't think he'll make it to 2028.

I hate to break it to you R65 but no one goes to jail for the things he did. They get big fines. White-collar crime among the rich is rampant. The only person who seemed to do any time was Bernie Madoff.

Voting for Kamala Harris could support policies that affirm and protect the rights of transgender individuals, including toddlers who are exploring their gender identity. Harris has consistently advocated for LGBTQ+ rights and inclusion, emphasizing the need for comprehensive healthcare and supportive environments for transgender people. Her support for such policies aligns with efforts to provide resources, counseling, and protections for young children undergoing gender transition, ensuring their well-being and affirming their identities from an early age.

R77 is a bot. Also posted the exact same drivel in another thread. You know what to do. DL. FF to hell.

The biggest mistake ever made regarding justice in the US is when Ford pardoned Trump under the bullshit guise that it was done in order to heal and unite the country. I strongly believe one of the conditions Nixon gave for resigning in 1974 was that Ford would quickly pardon him for any crimes. That allowed for lawlessness and criminality by subsequent presidents such as Reagan and the Iran Contra scandal, Bush 2 and the bogus WMDs to initiate the Iraq War, Trump and his multiple criminal acts. I was only 13 when Nixon was pardoned and even at that age I saw that act as a terrible decision for a democracy. Also, notice how all the criminal acts were all done by Republicans. The last Republican president I have any respect for was Eisenhower, who was very troubled by the undue influence in government by the MIC, and voiced his opinion in his last speech as president. That man was a patriot, not the shit-stain Republican presidents that followed.

R77 which is a good reason to vote against her. Toddlers do not explore their gender. Don't you realize this is gay conversion therapy? It is also mutilating kids.

R80 you fucking transphobic pos. What kind of sick person wouldn’t allow a child to be themselves? You’re disgusting!

If Trump loses (and I think that is a huge "if" right now), he won't run again. There is no way his party would support someone who has lost twice.

I’ll vote for Kamala to make sure every child can transition as soon as possible. We need more Kim Petras types in this world!

[quote]He won’t go away. If he loses we’ll have Coup 2.0

He was still president on January 6, 2021. If he loses, he'll have no power at all. That will make a yuge difference.

I agree with R80. The radical trans/gender ideology that the Left is blindly supporting, wholesale, is tantamount to gay erasure and it makes very little sense.

"you fucking homophobic pos. What kind of sick person wouldn’t allow a child to be themselves? You’re disgusting!"

Fixed it for you.

Jesus christ, can the trans-obsessed poster(s) GIVE IT A REST???

R86 try again

I'm hoping for mass suicides by his traumatized followers after he loses and is brutally humiliated.

I'd settle for their being demoralized/disgusted enough to not being motivated to show up for a while.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's even the whiff of a possibility he goes to jail that he jets off to the Middle East or Russia to "oversee a project" and just never comes back.

I see a lot of shat pants in his future.

The Republicans will never again get this kind of enthusiasm from the hillbillies, Haters, Angry Old White Men, rednecks, Neo-Nazis, Xtians, homophobes... Trump is their last stand. After that the Deplorables will just sit it out, per usual.

Interesting, R91. Many people feel he'll "escape" to Russia, but one of those internet psychics insisted they saw him dying in the middle east.

In my experience, toddlers have only a shaky idea about gender. A trans toddler would be a very rare thing indeed.

I wish people would lay off children and teens' sexuality, support them when they question it, and tell busy body friends and neighbors to fuck off if they intrude. People should let children develop on their own terms. I don't think I know a family who doesn't have a gay or trans kid in it. That or schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, drug addiction, or a host of other things that can be very hard on a family. What we need is more support for families in crisis, not judgement and government intrusion.

You are obviously not a parent. You can't just let kids do what they want. Kids need boundaries and rules.

Yes, kids do need parenting and boundaries. Some children question their sexual gender identity from an early age, and others come to that realization some time after puberty. Either way, gender reassignment is fine so ling as there is no definitive change made such as hormone or surgery until at minimum 16, or preferably 18. Too many have had a change of heart of how they view themselves a few years later, so the longer they make such a change, the less the odds they made the wrong decision.

This is turning into a Punch and Judy show with all these sock puppets.

Death

Remember, should Trump win in 2024, he will not be retiring in 2029. He will hold on to the presidency until his death. Should Trump lose in 2024, he will again claim election fraud and never concede.

Even during the 2016 election race, he said several times that he will concede if the election was fair. Had Hillary won in 2016, he would have never conceded. Many don't remember today but Trump had even claimed that the Ted Cruz primary win in Iowa was due to fraud.

"others come to that realization some time after puberty." Body dysmorphia that is associated with being trans starts very early and is VERY rare. Something like 0.8% of the population is truly trans. When it occurs after or during puberty, it's likely related to something other than being transexual such as a girl who is a tomboy starts growing breasts and getting attention from boys because of it. It's a normal part of being a teenager going through puberty. Teenagers have no idea who they are until they are much older which is why so many experiment with different hair styles, colors, etc. Allowing a teenager to start some transition process because they don't want the changes that are natural to their bodies is dangerous and has far reaching ramifications that they cannot grasp. Hell, most adults cannot grasp the dangers of what this does to their bodies.

He will be a pimp for streetwalkers.

He has a big stable- Melanoma; Kim Guilfoyle; Ivanka; Boebert; the Senatrice….

R100 he may not have conceded but he still had to move out of the WH and the next administration just came in and took over. The same thing will happen in 4 years if he wins. He can flap his gums all he wants but It will be the end of his second term. He will leave just like that last time.

R103 You seem top have an idealized perception of our democracy. Trump failed the first time because the guardrails of government were still in place. This time they have already placed Trumpsters in key roles like the secretary of various key states and governors who will side with whatever fraudulent claims and electors Trump wants. And he will have a VP will will not certify the elector college votes (which was a bridge too far for Mike Pence) and kick it back down to the states, an illegal move since he does not have the legal authority to do so, but it will cause a constitutional crisis, which the Supreme Court will rule in Trump's favor.

[quote]This time they have already placed Trumpsters in key roles like the secretary of various key states and governors who will side with whatever fraudulent claims and electors Trump wants. And he will have a VP will will not certify the elector college votes (which was a bridge too far for Mike Pence)

Huh? The last time I checked, Harris is the VP.

I was referring to the 2028 election. Vance will not do what Pence did. Or what Gore did.

[quote] If Trump loses this election I predict he won't live a year.

Wouldn't it be delicious if Biden outlives him by several years, living the quiet life in Delaware and being cheered to the rafters every time he makes a cameo appearance as the Dems' elder statesman?

[quote]And he will have a VP will will not certify the elector college votes

Happily, if he loses this year the VP who will have to certify the EC votes will be Kamala Harris. And as she will be Commander in Chief the minute she's done it, I would think security would be a lot more professional than it was last time at the Capitol.

[quote] Wouldn't it be delicious if Biden outlives him by several years, living the quiet life in Delaware and being cheered to the rafters every time he makes a cameo appearance as the Dems' elder statesman?

I find it hard to believe that Biden’s family would subject Biden to that. It should be like what Nancy did with Reagan, keeping him out of sight.

[quote] Happily, if he loses this year the VP who will have to certify the EC votes will be Kamala Harris. And as she will be Commander in Chief the minute she's done it

We need civics taught in schools.

It's interesting that there is little in this thread about "the election was rigged, we won..!!" even as they lose. I can see of no scenario where Trump and MAGA simple accept a loss. So the question is, what kind of upheaval/violence will happen when Trump loses? His legal jeopardy is such that he absolutely will not accept a loss... and the "fight like hell" call to arms in 2024 will be much earlier and more broad-based than 2020.

There is so much fucking drama in store for us. In January the VP will certify the electors from the election. Harris standing in Congress validating the election. MAGA will be more aggrieved than ever. Not simply as a prophylactic against violence (not allowing threats to determine everything), I do think a Harris administration might "plea deal" with Trump...make him step away.

Which, of course, even if agreed to, he wouldn't. I foresee him either taking over Fox or (more likely) amp up his Truth Social to an all pervasive network of products, content, sources of $$. He'll want to be the center of attention and make a lot of money. The new Rush Limbaugh, etc.

he will never fully disappear until he dies and goes to hell

[quote] he will never fully disappear until he dies and goes to hell

We don't want him down here.

He's fat and has a horrible diet. I can't imagine he'll live until the next election.

Narcissists cannot accept a loss. He'll go on ranting, but almost no one will be paying attention.

I think he will win in 2024. So that won't be a problem. He will pardon himself and by 2028 he will probably be close to death.

[quote]I think he will win in 2024.

How do you figure that? The biggest issue from the Democrats was lack of voter enthusiasm for Biden, and that's been resolved.

No, the problem is she is still going to be Biden 2.0 and people are sick of the inflation, identity politics, and the border problems. The swing states won't vote for her. She is not doing well in those states.

Those are concerns for her, R118. However, I think there'll be enough votes to carry her through.

[quote]R18: The GOP will be done with him after November, but he'll run again regardless.

Unlikely. They really can't think for themselves. They'll only be done with him when Putin is done with him, and once that happens (likely once he loses this year), Trump won't have long to live. He will have become a loose end which needs tying up, either from the topmost windows at Mar-a-Lago, or from polonium in a Diet Coke.

But in the short term, if he loses this November, he'll screech that the election was stolen, and his red hats will attempt various permutations of January 6th 2.0. And once Trump is gone, Republicans will become a low level menace in every position or office they hold, like a bunch of Irwin Allen villains (think Dr Smith, Fitzhugh, or Dr Michaels in 'Fantastic Voyage') looking to sabotage democracy.

He’s not going to lose.

R121 Yes he is. He's going to be a gigantic loser.

Grifter Trump and his family know the only way for him to overcome his financial and legal troubles is to be reelected president.

He will have to pay a fine. It has already been said he won't go to jail. Most people who commit white-collar crimes don't go to jail. They pay fines. White-collar crime is rampant among the rich. Half the country thinks his crimes are politically motivated.

After the votes are counted and certified in January... Biden will still be the President for a few weeks, and he has absolute immunity per the Supreme Court...so he should just order the Army to assassinate Trump.

Kamala will humiliate him. Kamala/White Guy VP will expose and ensure that everyone knows about the pathetic ideas of Project 25. But the biggest issue is that women are not going back to losing their right to have a safe abortion. Kamala will drive the wooden stake into the heart of Trump. We are approaching an inflection/turning point in our country's history. Prepare for scary times. Next year Trump will be putting and chipping at Mar a Lago while wearing his ankle monitor.

Just get drunk Defuckto @R121. You know you want to.

[quote]He’s not going to lose.

Keep telling yourself that, Dee.

Wow, you are really gulping that Kool-Aid down. She cannot do anything about abortion because it is a states rights issue now and she doesn't have the votes to make it legal. She is using it as a carrot like they always do. Project 25 is a bunch of propaganda. It is a conservative wish list that the right has been threatening since the 50s. They are like the John Birch Society. They can't get all that done.

R126 Actually many white collar criminal do go to jail if there are numerous fraud convictions. And thirty-four is quite a hefty number of felony convictions. But Trump will never see the inside of a jail, he probably will get a fine and some bogus house arrest conditions, but still allowing him to campaign.

[quote]And thirty-four is quite a hefty number of felony convictions.

It was one crime that the prosecution split into 34 separate counts, counting each check written as a separate crime, for example.

He'll be lucky to be alive yet by the end of this year given his physical health and there's no fucking way he will live to 2028 with his dementia at it's current state, no matter how much people want to think his health managers have some kind of magic wand.

Dementia increases as a curve, not a straight line.

My job covers investigating financial crimes. When we file our suspicious activity report to the federal government, we have to list the different categories of financial crimes and detail each instance , and maintain supporting documentation. Typically when the DOB or other federal agencies decide to charge , that is when they decide which crimes they are going to prosecute and typically they list each violation as separate counts, but it also depends on the type of crimes they are.

Trump doesn't seem like he has dementia. He seems personality-disordered and getting old. Trump has always had diarrhea of the mouth.

R129, keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Or the possibility of being monitored by the feds when traveling to a blue state for reproductive healthcare.

[quote]They can't get all that done.

They don't expect to. But they're going to push to get a lot of it done, and that alone is reason enough to take them seriously.

They are not going to get any of it done because they don't have the power to do it Some far left-wing women during Trump's last presidency wrote a book stating he was going to do this. It is far left-wing propaganda.

R137 Please restate that... it's a wee bit incoherent.

Germany, 1932 "... oh the Nazis will never actually get any of Mein Kampf done..."

How does one teach an ignorant person the huge, monumental differences between the U.S. in 2024 and the Weimar Republic in 1932 and between the two constitutional structures? I don't feel like it, but anyone else feel free.

There video of Vance saying women need to be physically blocked from being able to travel from red states to blue states for health care, R135.

Like they aren't human. As if they shouldn't be allowed to make the choice on their own. Because JD "Couch fucker" says so, half the population isn't allowed to cross state lines.

But this is "freedom"? And, these choades wont come after LGBTQ? GTFOOH with that shit. That is some fascist bullshit.

Yes, Germany was in an uber-Depression in 1932 and the US currently has an economy that is the envy of the entire world. But the difference here is social media and right wing media spreading lies and nonsense. Its very easy to manipulate people into voting against their own best interests. Millions of Americans think the 1/6 insurrection was fake news or no big deal. And of course we also have 6 people on the Supreme Court that basically said anything Trump does is not illegal and will continue to do his bidding.

Vance is basically a fascist. He's a strange, disturbed man.

^ Vance is whatever a billionaire benefactor tells him to be. He'd only commit to fascism if Peter Thiel told him he was hillbilly Mussolini reincarnated

Here you go R138. Does the US have the right to travel freely? “The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horse-drawn carriage, wagon, or automobile, is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but a common right which he has under his right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

^^In other words it's not going to happen no matter what that fool Vance says. He obviously couldn't pass a citizenship test and neither can most of the US.

I hope he face-plants in his breakfast burger.

R139 The social media smack talk against anything or anyone that contradicts one's beliefs, goals, and advantages. "Ignorant person!" and then "constitutional structures" (oh, such interesting technical terms).

Nah kid... historians and experts with perspectives far more informed than any of us shit-posters on social media have outlined the similarities (Weimar and MAGA-Era USA) of the fascist challenges to the judiciary, administrative norms, and social comity. Google Weimar and USA and (with a clear-minded understanding of the source of the information) you too can track the parallels. Some of those who developed Project 25 actually talk about establishing a "united Reich".... to deny this is part of the strategic disinformation.

Assume at your own risk.

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Moving to El Salvador and starting his own cryptocurrency grift.

Could he be the next face of Colonial Penn?

Donald Trump for Depends.

Will they really choose him as candidate again if (fingers crossed) he loses twice in a row?

He will never leave the U.S. Putin would have him thrown out a window or put poison in his Big Mac. .

He’ll go back to to Mar-o-lardass, keep running his mouth nonstop, get blowjobs from maga women, eat cheese omelettes and try for coup part 2.

We will never get rid of this fucker until he croaks

[quote]Will they really choose him as candidate again if (fingers crossed) he loses twice in a row?

Anyone who thinks he'll be the nominee in 2028 at 82 years old -- when he's at death's door -- and after losing consecutive elections is delusional.

[quote]Anyone who thinks he'll be the nominee in 2028 at 82 years old -- when he's at death's door -- and after losing consecutive elections is delusional.

We Love Our Dump!! ❤️

[quote]But the biggest issue is that women are not going back to losing their right to have a safe abortion.

Not to mention the threats to other reproductive rights in Project 2025 and talked of by some of the States. Whoever decided to adapt The Handmaid's Tale for TV when they did, may have done the US a huge favour, by giving women a point of reference for how easy it would be to roll back their rights as far as an autocracy wanted.

One of the interesting parallels between Weimar and USA now is that the forces of the ultra-Right were/are both kicking back against the results of earlier wars. It's just that Germany's was recent (1918), whereas in the US it's the result of the Civil War that's still bugging a lot of MAGAts (hence their desire for women to live in 1864).

R157 Yep, in centuries to come (assuming the human race isn't extinguished by climate change or the AI overlords) historians will limn that the Confederacy resurged to take power in 2016 (and we'll see what happens in 2024). I read an analysis of the MAGA phenomenon a few years ago which described the great shift in American politics as "most of rural America - north, mid-west, west - has become The South."

I think he dies shortly after he loses in November, within the next few years. Won’t have anything to live for.

Fun fact:

In 2016 white women voters cast their vote for Donald Trump 51%

In 2020 white women voters cast their vote for Donald Trump 53%

So, after 4 years of Trump in the White House and his horrendous leadership during the first year of the pandemic, more white women believed Trump deserved another 4 years as president.

Make of that statistic as you may.

I don't think he's still going to be around in 2028.

Yeah, R160, but, at that time, they didn't know that the mistakes their little trailer park harlots make wouldn't be so easily "corrected" in 2024.

R160 I think an underexplored story of this year's election is how much 1) the death of Roe and 2) the Trump who tried to deny the 2020 election, and encourage an attack of the Capitol (and now calls them patriots and will pardon them) will garner more or less support from demographic factions. It seems to me (and the polls are still not clear on this) that white women/suburban women are weary of the Orange Vengeance Performance Artist.

It's just so exhausting and old, fomented by a man almost 80... time to move on, even from the Free Will Baptist white Suburban shop-owning woman in Racine.

[quote]It's just so exhausting and old, fomented by a man almost 80... time to move on, even from the Free Will Baptist white Suburban shop-owning woman in Racine.

Trump has been in our faces and a constant presence in our lives for a whole decade now. Spouting the same old shit over and over. The same shit he's been babbling on about today is the same shit he's been babbling on about for years now. People are fucking sick of it.

White women are stupid and entitled. Most if think that being married “protects” them from these draconian laws.

Hopefully, hearing from those white women in Texas who nearly died from septic pregnancies will wake some of them the fuck up.

As I have said before, one of my white girlfriends considers herself a “republican”. She had an abortion back in the late 70s when she was married due to medical complications. She’s now quite scared that the thugs will come for her because of it since they’re wanting access to women’s medical histories in Ohio.

I tried to tell her that voting repug is what got her into this dilemma, but the cognitive dissonance is really doing a number on her. Even pointing out that it’s the GOP legislature and governor doing this brings on confusion and denial. “Why would they do this to ME when I voted for them?” is her confused question.

[quote] “Why would they do this to ME when I voted for them?” is her confused question.

I blame our getting in the way of Darwinism. Many, many years ago, stupid people like that would have been mauled by wild animals, got lost somewhere and die of starvation, step on a rusty nail and die of sepsis, any number of ways your stupidity would make sure you don't overburden the resources on this planet for too long. Now, they live well into the adulthood, vote in the elections and force the rest of us to live with the consequences of their stupidity.

His brand is shit. Ditto for Melania and Ivanka. He'll have to make money shopping around the secret files he's hiding. Not the ones found, those were the red herrings. The one's he has deeply hidden.

R167 There is a massive binder of top secret files that was never recovered. That is also a key part of the case against him, that it is still missing.

A whole decade?? R164 He has been in our faces as a tabloid figure since the early 80s. He has done everything in his power to stay in the news since he was in his 20s including making fake magazine covers and calling up the news trying to claim he was someone else to say how great Trump is. Every building he can lease, he puts his name in huge letters so you can't miss it from miles away. He is a clown, nothing more.

I meant his political career r169

[quote] The ones he has deeply hidden.

Time to dig up Ivana's grave.

[quote]Time to dig up Ivana's grave.

Be careful of errant golf balls.

I'm alright.......

She was never his First Lady

But she was always his Eighteenth Hole.

My friend lives in The Netherlands and a few weeks ago he told me that he was seeing so much of Trump in the press there that he forgot that Biden was president. He said 'Mr Biden has had Trump over his shoulder all the time, like a shadow following him, has any other president had to compete with images of the last one meeting with world leaders and senators at his private residence?' It was a great point and I conceded that we have had a President and shadow President. Trump never went away and of course the media indulged him. I'm sure a study would show that he received more headlines than Biden or Harris. If he loses I pray to every god invented that he goes away if not by choise then because the media stops giving him coverage.

Republicans will go - it's time to move on - forget all the crimes, forget the national security violations, forget the Project 2025, we want to move FORWARD, unlike the Dems who want to live in the PAST.

Seriously - we have their number - we have to cut them off at the legs moving forward. I'm tired of over 20 years of this shit.

r175 what you wrote is so true. Trump has been in the news 24/7 all throughout Biden's presidency. He'll be in the news until he dies. We're never going to get rid of him until that happens.

And when Trump finally croaks....

I've been thinking about Trump's Presidential Library... it's gotta be in Florida right? It'll have a McDonald's inside and a Trump Sneakers store.

^^ and no books!

But it'll have all the issues of Playboy and Penthouse which featured Melanija.

And the interactive exhibit where a Trump hologram grabs your pussy!

Plus a few of the secret files still not recovered....with pee stains.

...and an odor of senior poo blown out of the vents in selected rooms.

And a copy of that "person, woman, man, camera, TV" cognitive test.

So, in a normal world, Trump losing mean him going to jail and being abandoned by his party, SCOTUS, etc. because he's a loser and his usefulness is over. However, we live in a world where Trump is the luckiest man to have ever existed and has never faced consequences fot anything he's ever done, big or small. So, he'll probably get a TV show.

Ear Kotex sold in the Trump Presidential Library Gift Shop for only $29.95.

Only on some fringe right wing channel, like Real America's Voice channel or whatever the fuck it's called.

R186 You need to time stamp this thread and your reply. It deeply disturbs me to believe you are absolutely correct.

Speaking of TV shows, R186 is that Trump is a reality star. He is an entertainer and people think it is all a show with him. I think that is how his fans see him. If he hadn't had that show, people would not have known who he was and would not have voted for him. He ran for president a couple of times before The Apprentice and most people didn't know who he was. He didn't get any votes. Hollywood and politics have become blurred.

r186 Trump is NEVER going to jail.

However, the GOP will dump him after November.

[quote]I've been thinking about Trump's Presidential Library... it's gotta be in Florida right? It'll have a McDonald's inside and a Trump Sneakers store.

It will be in a gold plated toilet stall in a bathroom in Mar-a-Lago.

I believe there's a sentiment among Dems in DC to cut off funding/benefits for Presidents who are convicted felons? If so, he'd have to do a library privately.

The republicans will either succeed in a fake elector scheme again, refuse to certify the election and install Trump anyway - or various reactionary militias will send us into near civil war, something like the Irish troubles. I think there is a zero chance we make it out of this election without failing as a state. This is the end no matter what.

I can't help, on some level, the quietism of posts like r194 is intended to suppress Dem turnout.

^^^

[quote]or various reactionary militias will send us into near civil war, something like the Irish troubles.

My friends and I have been talking about this lately. If Kamala wins we all know the MAGAts are going to lose their fucking minds. Civil unrest is a real possibility.

R195 Datalounge isn't relevant enough for psyops, this is just my opinion. I'm still going to support the Harris campaign enthusiastically and hope for the best but deep down I'd bet that we're heading toward utter chaos no matter what.

After Jan 6th things died down and we didn't have civil unrest after it was established that Biden won and Trump had to accept it. I don't think it will be different this time. all the rioters on Jan 6 got in trouble and I don't think they are willing to go to jail again. Many of them had to plead guilty to get reduced sentences. One of them was asked why he pled guilty when he didn't believe he was guilty and he said "He wasn't going to spend 24 years in jail." Pleading guilty got him a few months.

R199 You may be right, the best case scenario in my mind is that the MAGA movement is really a boomer movement and that the radicalization of young men is overstated. I think when Trump loses this time, he'll directly call for violence and demand a coup or declare himself the official commander of the military, or something insane that sets things off.

R200 I don't know... all the "militia" types seem Millenials or Gen X. The four guys that threatened to kidnap Whitmer were 30s. I think they're the demographic who is ready for violent revolt.

But this summer I've come to the realization that maybe our institutions are strong enough not only to survive this weird moment in American history. Project 2025 is a blueprint for fascism, and I think the instinct of the great majority of Americans is to resist, challenge, and defeat fascism.... through the rule of law. I think this surge of enthusiasm for Harris is indicative of the will of the Republic.

Liberty not tyranny.

Many (if not most) of the men at the Jan. 6 shitshow looked to be in their 30s and 40s, so Millennials and Gen X.

We're fortunate that Trump is such an old man because history has shown us that cult of personality movements tend to die when their leader dies.

I doubt he's going to make it to 2028.

It may be that after Trump dies or loses in the next election(let's hope) I think the party will go back to being the party of business and will try to distance themselves from the fringe who loved Trump because he was a reality star. Maybe they will go back and pick Rinos that are not religious nutcases plus they lost so much popularity over abortion.

[quote]I doubt he's going to make it to 2028.

Dump's parents lived until they were a thousand years old R203.

R205 Trump's father suffered from Alzheimer's by the time he was in his 80s. Trump is reportedly obsessed with the issue for himself given what his father went through.

"Donald Trump invited his extended family to Mar-a-Lago in the mid-1990s. As the clan gathered at the palatial Florida estate, though, his father was badly struggling, according to Mary L. Trump, Donald’s niece. Fred Trump Sr., the pugnacious developer then in his late 80s, didn’t recognize two of his children at the party, recalled Mary L. Trump, who attended the gathering. And when he did recognize Donald, the family patriarch approached his son with a picture of a Cadillac that he wanted to buy — as if he needed his son’s permission.

The incident, Mary L. Trump said, left Donald Trump visibly upset at his father’s descent into dementia, which medical records show had been diagnosed several years earlier. Trump reflected his anguish in an interview around that time, with Playboy in 1997 reporting that seeing his father “addled with Alzheimer’s” had left him wondering “out loud about the senselessness of life.”

Fred and Mary Anne Trump were likely not eating McDonald's every day and snorting Adderall and who knows what else for decades. Donald is declining fast, he'll be drooling into a cup in a few years.

Trump himself is probably in the early stages of the disease. After 80 the probability of getting Alzheimer's goes up exponentially. Your chances of getting it after 80 go up 50% and the older you get the more chance you will have some form of dementia.

[quote]You may be right, the best case scenario in my mind is that the MAGA movement is really a boomer movement

Of course. In the World According to DL, the boomers are directly responsible for everything that's wrong in this country.

The beer belly putschists on Jan 6 covered a whole gamut of demographics, from their early 20s to even some guys who were in their 70s. Rather than a generational movement, it's a low IQ one.

What r210 said. The rump cult crosses all demographics

r209 that's not entirely inaccurate.

Only simpletons would try to paint an entire generation with the same broad brush.

I’m guessing that the pearl-clutching priss-pots flinching at the traditional end of game shorts swap wouldn’t know a rugby ball if they fell over it.

Stick to crochet, ladies.

^^^ oops - wrong thread

No one, and I mean NO ONE ON THIS FUCKING PLANET wants to see fat Donnie’s shirts, r214.

My eyes!

[quote]Many (if not most) of the men at the Jan. 6 shitshow looked to be in their 30s and 40s, so Millennials and Gen X.

Add another decade to your assumption- Many GenXers are in their 50s.

It's not an assumption, just look at the footage.

Well, this is the very last time Christians have to vote, according to the new spokesperson for Christ on earth, so, there’s a chunk of votes he will miss out on. N ever occurred to spur boy that they might choose trot only to vote again, but to vote for someone other than Almighty Don

He'll run again in 2028. Even if he's dead by then, the RNC will stuff him like Peter's mother on "The Great," and wheel his corpse around in a glass case to cheering Republican crowds.

If Christians want to stop voting after this election, that's fine. Enjoy!

However, Diaper Donnie, Heritage, and Putin don't get to keep the rest of us from voting after this election or keeping our votes from counting.

I wonder if congressional Republicans will still be taking direction from him the same way they've been doing now.

I think that since Ukraine has marched on Russia and Vladimir, things will be different for our foolish Republicans. The money flow will be drying up (that's probably happening now) for our comprised Congressman. Vlad has a lot on his mind and may very well cut loose old & senile Donald. He served his purpose to Russia. It will be interesting to see how and whether Putin finds a way to keep his power. This election will decimate the Republican party for many years to come.

[quote] This election will decimate the Republican party for many years to come.

Good.

Trump disclosed to Elon Musk that if he loses this November, he'll flee to Venezuela.

Venezuela was once the refuge of choice for ex-Nazis fleeing Europe, and it's still a stronghold of fascism.

Currently Venezuela has a strong Russian military presence; they're allies.

Perhaps Trump wants to be close to Russia, but without lodging directly under Putin's roof, metaphorically speaking. He's never been sure of where he really stands with Putin, which is why he's always so afraid of being poisoned.

The primary reason Trump is running for president in 2024 is to stay out of prison.

R255 He needs to take Elon with him. Let them unleash their vermin in some other country.

I believe he's running because his Narcisstic Personality Disorder cannot cope with being a LOSER. Maintaining 2020 as "stolen" works to explain that (in his mind), but he desperately needs to be re-elected psychologically. Harris' January inauguration is what he fears most, more than prison.

Hopefully in three months we'll have heard the last of Trump and he can just go into retirement and we can finally be rid of him.

[i] Hopefully in three months we'll have heard the last of Trump and he can just go into retirement and we can finally be rid of him. [i]

"Not so fast."

Assume he’s going to lose - people don’t vote -Trump wins

[quote]Trump disclosed to Elon Musk that if he loses this November, he'll flee to Venezuela.

Just map out the McDonalds in the country and you'll know Trump is within a 2 mile radius

You could have your own private chef make you the best burgers and fries any time of day. Or you could order McDonald's. I seriously wonder if it's some weird obsession thing for him because DONALD is in the name McDonald's. Cause it makes no fucking sense otherwise. So trashy.

R233 McDonalds is comfort food for Trump so that has become a basic staple for decades. For Elvis it was friend bananas and peanut butter sandwiches.

Supposedly McDonald's also is reassuring for him because it's mass produced, therefore cannot be poisoned by an enemy because no one knows which hamberder he'll get.

I can see him running again as a third party candidate.

Maybe I expect too much of Republicans.

I hope that he does. He would totally fuck things up for the R candidate, and would be the end of their connection to him.

R236 old buddy, old pal ... he's [italic]barely[/italic] functioning now! In four years he won't be able to complete a full sentence, if that.

But I'm not sure that would stop him or his acolytes r238. They could run a campaign of advertising only, well edited. Not saying it would be effective. A marginal candidate.

[quote]I can see him running again as a third party candidate.

You're confusing Trump with the Thing That Wouldn't Die, which is understandable but not very realistic.

R240, I'm so mortified by your comparison I could die.

Important tea

He’s toast, even his base of useful idiots are diminishing.

He should be put in prison or at the very least the looney bin.

Most people who had 34 (!) felony counts would be in prison right now but not him. It's insane.

[quote] What then?

Disappears, hopefully

Someone keeps sending us to a Barron Trump thread.I don’t give a fuck what that Trump spawn says/does. No one will ever know what he is about and I don’t want to know-Mini Trump POS.

My suspicion is he’ll either join Fox, getting Apprentice-style “production values” (fakery to make him look competent), or he’ll be the mascot of some new network much more extremist and rightwing-populist. He’ll milk his followers like the cattle they are.

It will be glorious to see MAGA forced to face that he is a loser. Of course Fox will continue to pretend he was a great man. But seeing MTG, Mike Johnson and Lindsey have to face reality will be wonderful, especially if Democrats win Congress.

Trump grifters and criminals will continue because have no shame-no need to explain just keep grifting…

If Trump loses, he will declare again for '28 in an attempt to keep power and media focus. Republicans will have to make a break from him at some point, unless he dies first.

[quote]If Trump loses, he will declare again for '28 in an attempt to keep power and media focus.

If Trump loses in November, he's finished. End of story.

R252 So much ground to cover before DJT is "finished"... the whole MAGA/extremist movement is poised to challenge any election they lose. If/when Trump loses the election denial effort will make 2020 look like amateurs - a broad media campaign, raising $$ for "the Cause", court challenges and a large number of public officials who already are planning to resist elector certification, a House of MAGA/extremists readied to block certification... armed resistance in the streets? And, of course, court challenges that could well rise in "an emergency expedited timeline" to the Supreme Court, and y'all know how that will go. All possible.

This is a real threat to what happens after the election and is why, in my opinion, Harris needs to win big. 5-6% points nationally, 319 votes in the electoral college. I'm ready to work for this victory.

Trump won't run in 2028. He won’t have to because he became America’s Hitler in 2024. This post approved by Harris/Walz 2024

I never assume Trump will lose-thats why Hilary lost.