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Bette Midler Smokes A Cigarette After Dinner At Giorgio Baldi

I'm not impressed that she smokes. She walks and seems like an old woman now- oh well.

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by Anonymousreply 188August 10, 2024 1:40 PM

It could be a joint

by Anonymousreply 1July 23, 2024 3:42 AM

That was disappointing

by Anonymousreply 2July 23, 2024 3:48 AM

Who cares? Stealth 90s thread.

by Anonymousreply 3July 23, 2024 3:50 AM

Let the bitch smoke, ffs. What's with this moralistic nonsense? And from a fag, at that.

by Anonymousreply 4July 23, 2024 4:07 AM

Why do people judge people for smoking? I don't get what it has to do with you. Doesn't bother me in any way if she smokes.

by Anonymousreply 5July 23, 2024 4:07 AM

It's like saying, tsk tsk, she's drinking alcohol!

by Anonymousreply 6July 23, 2024 4:09 AM
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by Anonymousreply 7July 23, 2024 4:10 AM

She's close to 80. If the cancer didn't get her lungs yet, let her enjoy being disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 8July 23, 2024 4:35 AM

^ chides Bette while taking a 50 load weekend raw.

by Anonymousreply 9July 23, 2024 4:53 AM

I don't care. I love her for the Beaches soundtrack, Not the crap top 40 shit, but the show tunes. It was really my first introduction to it. She is marvelous!!

by Anonymousreply 10July 23, 2024 4:59 AM

I'm pretty sure she's always smoked hasn't she?

Love Bette. She can do whatever the fuck she wants as far as I'm concerned.

by Anonymousreply 11July 23, 2024 5:04 AM

She's brave to go out in public in that lightning storm.

by Anonymousreply 12July 23, 2024 5:22 AM

R3 = Barbra of Malibu.

by Anonymousreply 13July 23, 2024 5:33 AM

The Marlboro Man is watching her from a distance.

by Anonymousreply 14July 23, 2024 6:01 AM

I don't think she walks like an old lady at all, she still has that little Midler Strut!

by Anonymousreply 15July 23, 2024 6:18 AM

slow news day

by Anonymousreply 16July 23, 2024 7:41 AM

It you've made it to 78 and you're still smoking why even bother to quit? You've only got a few more years left anyway.

by Anonymousreply 17July 23, 2024 5:21 PM

I don't care if she smokes.... but NOT IN THE CAR! That's where I draw the line.

by Anonymousreply 18July 23, 2024 5:30 PM

I always thought the stink was brimstone.

by Anonymousreply 19July 23, 2024 5:30 PM

The coffin nail explains a lot about that "trademark" "voice."

by Anonymousreply 20July 23, 2024 5:31 PM

[quote]I don't care if she smokes.... but NOT IN THE CAR! That's where I draw the line.

It's not your car. WTF do you care?

by Anonymousreply 21July 23, 2024 5:34 PM

r15 Walks old, but she's 5'1" and approaching 80.

Who was the Calista Flockhart looking lady ahead of her?

by Anonymousreply 22July 23, 2024 5:34 PM

r21 Because it stinks up the car interior. It's fucking gross.

by Anonymousreply 23July 23, 2024 5:42 PM

It's not your car r23

by Anonymousreply 24July 23, 2024 5:43 PM

A lot of celebrities smoke to keep their weight down.

by Anonymousreply 25July 23, 2024 5:43 PM

Maybe she was in the mood for a cig. I smoke one every once in awhile.

by Anonymousreply 26July 23, 2024 5:47 PM

I don't like the woman at all and I haven't smoked in 20 years and have no urge to do, but if a 78 year old wants to have a cigarette after a dinner, what the fuck do I care?

It's not as though she light up at my dinner table without asking and left a pyramid if cigarette butts on Mother's favorite china.

It's not as though I can smell her cigarette through the magic of video.

She's already two or three years past female life expectancy in the U.S., I reckon she's well aware of the risks and unpopularity.

She can always quite if inclined, though I'm not sure the same can be said for being a prickly bitch.

by Anonymousreply 27July 23, 2024 5:53 PM

Does she take Ozempic?

by Anonymousreply 28July 23, 2024 5:53 PM

Her upper body is a bit stiff and she's got a bit of a hunch back.

Look at her shoes, though. Not super high heels, but not flats or kitten heels. I'd say at least 3-inch stiletto-style heels. If she were in bad shape, she wouldn't be wearing those.

She was pretty considerate in the way that she held her cigarette, but she did take the cig into the car.

Anyway, when I am her age, I'd be happy to be out to dinner with friends.

Here's the menu at Giorgio Baldi. Seems like the same menu over and over.

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by Anonymousreply 29July 23, 2024 5:54 PM

[quote]Does she take Ozempic?

Cigarettes were the original Ozempic.

by Anonymousreply 30July 23, 2024 6:03 PM

They look drunk!

by Anonymousreply 31July 23, 2024 6:06 PM

Dionne Warwick is 83 and is still sucking down her Virginia Slims menthols.

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by Anonymousreply 32July 23, 2024 6:13 PM

r27 diarrhea of the keyboard

by Anonymousreply 33July 23, 2024 6:19 PM

Fancy car.

by Anonymousreply 34July 23, 2024 6:23 PM

She trashed gays for wanting the ability to get married. Fuck her. She’s always been a dumb bitch and she’s nasty to everyone who works for her. My friend walked because she couldn’t take her shit anymore.

by Anonymousreply 35July 23, 2024 6:29 PM

It's extremely déclassé to smoke inside a vehicle. Of course the wealthy tend to be quite trashy in their ways.

by Anonymousreply 36July 23, 2024 8:08 PM

She probably couldn’t see that great with the flashing light bulbs.

by Anonymousreply 37July 23, 2024 8:12 PM

Smoking inside a car with the windows closed while other people are onboard is the definition of trash.

by Anonymousreply 38July 23, 2024 8:20 PM

Let her live!

by Anonymousreply 39July 23, 2024 8:21 PM

Trashy

by Anonymousreply 40July 23, 2024 8:28 PM

Good grief. What a bunch of prissy Marys.

Clutch your pearls, girls. Clutch 'em!

by Anonymousreply 41July 23, 2024 8:36 PM

Never liked this ugly broad.

by Anonymousreply 42July 23, 2024 8:39 PM

R35, that is not true and you know it. You ARE the problem!

by Anonymousreply 43July 23, 2024 8:42 PM

An 80 year old broad can smoke?

by Anonymousreply 44July 23, 2024 8:44 PM

Ewww to smoking and ewwwww to in the car.

by Anonymousreply 45July 23, 2024 9:55 PM

[quote]It's extremely déclassé to smoke inside a vehicle.

Is that what Mother always told you?

by Anonymousreply 46July 23, 2024 10:05 PM

I let friends of mine smoke in my car. As long as they hang the cig out of the window it's not bad.

by Anonymousreply 47July 23, 2024 10:06 PM

Just wanna say I quit smoking 8 days ago. I started up again during Covid after 21 years smoke-free, and felt like I was never going to be able to quit gain, because quitting the first time was so, so, so hard. I'm 51 and I knew I had to quit now or accept a potentially shortened and compromised life span marred potentially by health issues. But after many failed attempts, I think I have cracked the code. Instead of viewing myself as a smoker trying to quit, I reframed it as I'm just a nonsmoker, who doesn't smoke. That was the reframe I needed, and I have not felt tormented about quitting. It's been much easier. I just keep thinking "Well, I see there is a craving right now in my body, but I'm a nonsmoker, so...not sure what I can possibly do about that." I suggest anyone trying to quit stop labeling themselves as a smoker who wants to quit, and start referring to yourself as a nonsmoker. It is a powerful reframe, and it works.

Having said all of that, I don't care if Bette smokes. I'm surprised, and I also think it's sort of adorable. Her life, her choices. She's got plenty of money for health care and I assume she's not a chain smoker. She's a real character!

by Anonymousreply 48July 23, 2024 10:11 PM

She probably tosses her butts on the ground, most smokers do.

by Anonymousreply 49July 23, 2024 10:16 PM

Good on ya Bette. You're 78 and can do what you damn well please

by Anonymousreply 50July 23, 2024 10:20 PM

Tesla. She needs to be canceled.

by Anonymousreply 51July 23, 2024 10:24 PM

Elaine Stritch started drinking again when she left NYC. Her thinking was " I'm an elderly broad with not much time left so fuck sobriety."

by Anonymousreply 52July 23, 2024 10:31 PM

This thread really shows how many stereotypical tightassed prisspots are on DL.

by Anonymousreply 53July 23, 2024 11:00 PM

I tell everyone I'm down to 5 a day but it's more like 10. Husband is about the same. Plus we smoke weed together. When we, both >25 a day smokers, bought this place about 6 years ago we agreed on no indoor smoking. Varying degrees of success and failure over time with Covid facilitating a reset.

We're otherwise healthy but old. We drink too much. We smoke cigs. We smoke weed. We spend too much money on eating out. Neither of us is overweight. We share clothes.

We have 2 cars. Officially, smoking is only allowed in his old Acura. But we both cheat when either or both of us use my old Camry.

by Anonymousreply 54July 23, 2024 11:11 PM

In this video she kinda looks like the witch character she played in that 1993 movie.

by Anonymousreply 55July 23, 2024 11:23 PM

Get a blog, R54.

by Anonymousreply 56July 23, 2024 11:26 PM

I'm surprised that she still smokes, but it's her body and her life.

by Anonymousreply 57July 23, 2024 11:28 PM

Mother says it’s most unladylike to smoke in the street.

by Anonymousreply 58July 23, 2024 11:32 PM

Has anyone here ever been to this restaurant? Rihanna used to get papped here weekly. Is it any good?

by Anonymousreply 59July 23, 2024 11:33 PM

I'm sure the restaurant allows bitches like Betty and Rihanna to light up inside.

by Anonymousreply 60July 23, 2024 11:37 PM

Can anyone identify the people with her? Don't see her husband or daughter.

by Anonymousreply 61July 23, 2024 11:44 PM

Op, and this is your business because...?

by Anonymousreply 62July 24, 2024 12:53 AM

We can only post about stuff that is our business, OP

by Anonymousreply 63July 24, 2024 1:03 AM

I am BIG business.

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by Anonymousreply 64July 24, 2024 1:17 AM

Ash will be slung tonight.

by Anonymousreply 65July 24, 2024 1:19 AM

She looks good for 78.

by Anonymousreply 66July 24, 2024 1:32 AM

WTF did you expect, OP?

She is an old woman now, so she’s obviously going to move, walk & look like one.

by Anonymousreply 67July 24, 2024 1:49 AM

R67- As long as you don't think I walk, talk and look like an old woman.

by Anonymousreply 68July 24, 2024 3:04 AM

Smoking is the last thing that people can tear apart with repercussions. Funny coming from a bunch of gangbang moneypoxers.

by Anonymousreply 69July 24, 2024 3:29 AM

She may have had a drink or drinks and that enables people to want to smoke.

by Anonymousreply 70July 24, 2024 3:36 AM
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by Anonymousreply 71July 24, 2024 3:48 AM

Miserable unfucked and unfuckable gay Marys having Grand mal seizures over ancient Bette Midler having a smoke? Bette Midler, of all people. Liza hotboxes her walkers, too.

Just kill yourselves, since you can no longer read a room.

by Anonymousreply 72July 24, 2024 11:03 AM

Hey Bette, we´ll outlive them all!

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by Anonymousreply 73July 24, 2024 11:23 AM

So what if she wants to smoke a cigarette outside?

She should have put it out before she into the car. That stinks!

by Anonymousreply 74July 24, 2024 11:40 AM

The ratio to Marys! to those who don’t give a shit if a 78 year-old smokes on here doesn’t fit your ramblings, R72. I’m not seeing many who care.

by Anonymousreply 75July 24, 2024 11:48 AM

R72- A Slim Jerry Garcia type said my penis was beautiful several times Saturday night- so I am not unfuckable. I started that thread too.

I’m a top so I don’t actually want to be fucked.

by Anonymousreply 76July 24, 2024 12:09 PM

Seeing someone smoking tobacco today in public is very rare indeed. It’s got to be that smelling tobacco smoke when you are out walking is like smelling MJ smoke when you were out walking 50 years ago. That just never happened.

The tobacco smokers may be very few in number today but they are still a very hated minority by the vast majority who shun them and use laws against them..

Now smokers are a sighting as in ——“look look mom there is a tobacco smoker”

If you want to stop unsafe behavior it works if you make life unbearable for those creating expensive diseases that costs us all a fortune. It worked.

by Anonymousreply 77July 24, 2024 12:10 PM

Mary Mary quite contrary trim that PUSSY it’s so DAMN HAIRY.

Andrew Dice Clay was generally a buffoon ( talking about buffoons- I bet he loves Donald Trump) but I thought that rhyme of his was funny 😄.

by Anonymousreply 78July 24, 2024 12:14 PM

If you want to guess who is a smoker , and you don’t know, just ask them if they have a college degree or are a HS grad or drop HS out.

Less education and being a smoker go head and hand .

by Anonymousreply 79July 24, 2024 12:19 PM

Or you could ask them if they come from shithole maga state. Those are also the better bet for yes.

by Anonymousreply 80July 24, 2024 12:24 PM

I hate this thread.

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by Anonymousreply 81July 24, 2024 12:25 PM

100 miles in from either coast and these rules aren’t that stringent

by Anonymousreply 82July 24, 2024 1:31 PM

R82

Surely you are not suggesting that those if us who don’t live within 100 miles a coast have less stringent anti smoking rules?

Where do you live?

by Anonymousreply 83July 24, 2024 1:42 PM

R4 is Matt Damon.

by Anonymousreply 84July 24, 2024 1:54 PM

[quote]If you want to stop unsafe behavior it works if you make life unbearable for those creating expensive diseases that costs us all a fortune. It worked.

Smokers die younger so they actually save the healthcare system money. They're not in assisted living with dementia for ten years.

by Anonymousreply 85July 24, 2024 2:17 PM

r76 is actually bragging about fucking a "Jerry Garcia type." JFC that is gross.

by Anonymousreply 86July 24, 2024 2:17 PM

r79 most of the smokers I know are white collar professionals. They do try to keep their smoking hidden, though. People who work in finance and law still smoke to some degree.

by Anonymousreply 87July 24, 2024 2:18 PM

R86- There was no fucking involved. He just inexpertly sucked my cock.

by Anonymousreply 88July 24, 2024 2:22 PM

Still nasty r88. Will your next trick be a David Crosby type?

by Anonymousreply 89July 24, 2024 2:30 PM

Probably a lot of overweight people or people with VDs being self-righteous about how smoking makes people unhealthy.

As for "since she's old, it's okay"...I don't care if anyone smokes. That's not my business. I don't care about the long term effects on the health care system. What I do care about is that we have a lousy health care system that is bankrupting people, and that people don't use, because they can't afford to, and how Medicare for everyone is overdue by 50 years. THAT I care about.

by Anonymousreply 90July 24, 2024 2:31 PM

[quote]and how Medicare for everyone is overdue by 50 years. THAT I care about.

We can't have universal health care in this country because we're so afraid that one single person we don't like will get it. That's really what it comes down to. Americans are selfish, nasty assholes.

by Anonymousreply 91July 24, 2024 2:34 PM

Bette Midler would chew you up and spit you out OP.

by Anonymousreply 92July 24, 2024 2:35 PM

R85

Tobacco smoking costs the US over 300 Billion dollars every year. Most of that in increased health care costs.

by Anonymousreply 93July 24, 2024 2:37 PM

Honey everything costs the US healthcare system 300 billion dollars a year. Don't even get started on what obesity and poor diet costs the system.

by Anonymousreply 94July 24, 2024 2:40 PM

Tobacco smoking is the single largest cause of premature death in the country today.

by Anonymousreply 95July 24, 2024 2:46 PM

And they don't live long enough to drain the health care system further.

Anyway this thread is about an ancient old woman smoking a cig.

by Anonymousreply 96July 24, 2024 2:57 PM

Ach!

Let´s take a glam break.

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by Anonymousreply 97July 24, 2024 3:44 PM

And in representation of the Lange troll

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by Anonymousreply 98July 24, 2024 3:46 PM

A serious smoker will only lose 13 years of life on average..

So its not like heavy smokers are always dying by 45.. many live longer and many of those that do often have a shitload of expensive health issues.

Living with oxygen 24/7 for their lung conditions must not be a happy way to spend their days.

But even then many of those addicted will still be hitting that pipe so to speak.

by Anonymousreply 99July 24, 2024 5:53 PM

R94 sweetie look up the data. Tobacco wins

Tobacco wins by a lot over the fat folks in how much they cost the US.

by Anonymousreply 100July 24, 2024 5:58 PM

Everything costs money in the healthcare system. But people will continue to use tobacco. There's not stopping it.

by Anonymousreply 101July 24, 2024 7:40 PM

R89- At least I didn't have sex with anyone who resembles any of the Rolling SKANKS

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by Anonymousreply 102July 24, 2024 7:45 PM

R101

Not all that long ago 50% of US adults were addicted smokers. Today it’s getting close to 10%. There is fucking stopping it.

And I realize how hard it is to quit. And what an addiction it is. And how enjoyable that first cig in the morning was.

We raise the tax another $10 a pack and about 3% will be smokers..

by Anonymousreply 103July 24, 2024 7:48 PM

Vaping is also very unhealthy and it's everywhere.

Anyway, good for Bette. If a 78 year old woman wants to have a cig she should have one.

by Anonymousreply 104July 24, 2024 7:50 PM

[quote]Elaine Stritch started drinking again when she left NYC.

Oh, trust me, it was quite a bit before that!

Elaine Stritch started drinking again when she felt like drinking again, which never stopped her "sobriety" act. Elaine was really a monster and on top of everything else, rarely honest about anything.

by Anonymousreply 105July 24, 2024 7:50 PM

Elaine apparently cut back on her drinking, but never fully quit.

by Anonymousreply 106July 24, 2024 7:51 PM

Alcohol and marijuana, like cigarette smoking, pose significant dangers and expenses to society. Alcohol consumption leads to addiction, impaired driving, and increased healthcare costs due to liver disease, heart problems, and accidents. Marijuana use, though often perceived as safer, can impair cognitive function, contribute to mental health issues, and lead to dependency, increasing healthcare and social service burdens. Both substances also result in lost productivity, legal costs, and enforcement expenses. The societal impact of alcohol and marijuana, in terms of health risks, economic costs, and social consequences, parallels the well-documented harms of cigarette smoking.

by Anonymousreply 107July 24, 2024 8:09 PM

12% of Americans smoke.

by Anonymousreply 108July 24, 2024 8:09 PM

Bette needs to write her autobiography. She must have some amazing stories.

by Anonymousreply 109July 24, 2024 8:11 PM

R108 thanks

And that’s the problem when its 88% and the 88% really don’t like or actually hate what the 12% are doing. The laws and rules get tougher the smoker is seen more and more as an outcast.

Don’t let the hiring people know you are a smoker is my advice if applying for a job it’s not career or job enhancing much of the time.

Smokers lose more work time than non smokers, And as my good friend Brooke Shields said——Smokers Stink

by Anonymousreply 110July 24, 2024 8:29 PM

Most smokers are inconsiderate and will flick their ashes, or put them out wherever convenient for them. Many years ago I was in a lunch room and someone was smoking and they were flicking their ashes in my can of soda, which I didn't notice. I went to take a sip and nearly vomited. I threw the can across the room and walked out. If I had stayed, there would have been a punch thrown.

by Anonymousreply 111July 24, 2024 8:38 PM

Most people’s experience with a smoker was in 1989 or 2003. Encounters with smokers is rare and there are much worse people out there to worry about.

by Anonymousreply 112July 24, 2024 8:40 PM

Chem sex?

by Anonymousreply 113July 24, 2024 8:43 PM

[quote]She's close to 80. If the cancer didn't get her lungs yet, let her enjoy being disgusting.

Oh honey. Do you even realize how tired judgment crones like you sound? Where there's smoke there ain't necessarily fire.

Fact: Only 10-20% of smokers get lung cancer.

by Anonymousreply 114July 24, 2024 8:43 PM

She always seemed low rent to me. Even when she was popular. I like the fact that she was herself and was an original meaning again herself not a copycat performer.

by Anonymousreply 115July 24, 2024 8:44 PM

R114

Heart disease CVD is the biggest health issue with smoking.. Emphysema is a major problem.

A big cause of house fires.

And lung cancer is just one of the many cancers smokers are prone to get. Also a big problem for pregnant woman and their unborn and of course young kids who are around smokers.

Smoking is the leading cause of premature death and disability in the country.

by Anonymousreply 116July 24, 2024 8:51 PM

I do appreciate Bette Midler’s friendship with Barry Manilow. He was her accompaniment, early in Bette’s career. This association no doubt helped him to get heard by record executives which after signing and success established him. Barry introduced Bette to Melissa Manchester who was among the first of Bette Midler’s famous Harlette’s. Within a span of months or a few years, Melissa Manchester was also signed to a record label and began a successful career in music.

by Anonymousreply 117July 24, 2024 8:53 PM

Good for her.

As for the smoking in the car, that made me ouch as she is going in with other people (and I am a smoker), but i think realizing she was being filmed she hesitated in throwing it out in the street and probably put it out inside the car.

by Anonymousreply 118July 24, 2024 9:00 PM

The Yasss Kween Woke Cunts on this thread would be giddy and “gagging” and claiming a “slay” happened if Britney did the same!

by Anonymousreply 119July 25, 2024 12:02 AM

Britney is redneck trash so we expect her to be smoking in a car.

by Anonymousreply 120July 25, 2024 12:05 AM

Where else is someone going to smoke but on the street or in a car? Unclench FFS.

by Anonymousreply 121July 25, 2024 12:06 AM

[quote] Britney is redneck trash so we expect her to be smoking in a car.

With a baby on her lap and Cheeto dust on her tits.

by Anonymousreply 122July 25, 2024 4:18 PM

R83 of course that’s what I was suggesting and never call me Surely!

by Anonymousreply 123July 26, 2024 2:16 PM

Next up, Mick Jagger on a beach chair playing with his 7 year old son Deveraux.

by Anonymousreply 124July 26, 2024 8:31 PM

Is Mick still smoking?

by Anonymousreply 125July 26, 2024 8:45 PM

Nothing makes you poop better than a cigarette after a meal...the cameras shouls have followed Bette's car, the real story was yet to come. Derek Blasburg's got nothing on the Bette

by Anonymousreply 126July 26, 2024 9:20 PM

[quote]Nothing makes you poop better than a cigarette after a meal

Try some Acitvia.

by Anonymousreply 127July 26, 2024 10:23 PM

She lost that youthful look a long time ago. By the time she appeared in The First Wives Club (1996) she already looked quite matronly.

by Anonymousreply 128July 27, 2024 12:58 AM

Tobacco use sure ages you as far as youthful looks. Of course not as much or as quick as a crack or meth addict might see. So there are some upsides to cigs.

by Anonymousreply 129July 27, 2024 1:08 AM

Were looking down at people for smoking now? My god we've all just become if pathetic pearl clutchers (and I say it as a former smoker)

by Anonymousreply 130July 27, 2024 1:11 AM

Nobody can clutch pearls like a gay prisspot. Contrary to popular belief that gay men are all anything goes hedonistic pigs, a fair amount of us are tightassed Victorian ladies who are offended by everything.

by Anonymousreply 131July 27, 2024 1:13 AM

R131 I dont think you can blame gay men here...society as a whole (particularly libs, ironically) have grown sticks ups their asses, long fingers to point and judge and long noses to look down on. Sad times. Hopefully I am alive to see whatever generation is going to tear that shit up and make them miserable.

by Anonymousreply 132July 27, 2024 1:16 AM

As opposed to the book burners 📚 🔥

by Anonymousreply 133July 27, 2024 1:23 AM

Bette has probably been smoking since the 70’s… back when every vehicle had ashtrays for the driver and every passenger. .

by Anonymousreply 134July 27, 2024 1:27 AM

R133 only one of them seems socially acceptable though (neither should be)

by Anonymousreply 135July 27, 2024 1:29 AM

Old habits die hard.

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by Anonymousreply 136July 27, 2024 1:34 AM

You are the tar within my lungs.

by Anonymousreply 137July 27, 2024 1:35 AM

R134- My father's 1972 Cadillac Sedan Deville had four cigarette lighters- 2 in the front and 2 in the back.

I miss that car it was so damn comfortable especially on a long trip.

by Anonymousreply 138July 27, 2024 1:36 AM

R132 And all the homeschoolers who don’t want their children to know about the outside world. And the global warming deniers. And of course the science deniers and their intelligent design concoction? And, OF COURSE, Gays!

by Anonymousreply 139July 27, 2024 1:40 AM

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by Anonymousreply 140July 27, 2024 1:43 AM

I love that vid of Liza. She lives in Lizaland 24/7 and she's happy as a clam.

by Anonymousreply 141July 27, 2024 1:45 AM

R139 well moral high grpunding over an old ass grown woman smoking a cigarette seems very prissy to me, no?

by Anonymousreply 142July 27, 2024 2:05 AM

Liza has had substance abuse issues since before she was born. Nobody is surprised that she’s smoking in a limo. It’s surprising that she’s still alive.

by Anonymousreply 143July 27, 2024 2:10 AM

Judy Garland's uterus was a fetid swamp of Seconal, Phenobarbital, Nembutal, Dexedrine, Blue Nun wine and Salems. It's a miracle anyone survived it. God bless Liza, Lorna and Joey. They really were miracle babies.

by Anonymousreply 144July 27, 2024 2:17 AM

Smokers make 17.5% less a year than non smokers. Smokers are less likely to be hired than non smokers. Smoking is much much higher among the poor. Well known facts.

Addictions are rarely helpful to a quality life. Smokers get lots of support on DL. DL has many suicide threads from those members who want to kill themselves often because they are poor.

It’s nature at work or as some might say As the World Turns or It is what it is

by Anonymousreply 145July 27, 2024 9:33 AM

Deep thoughts R145. I like to smoke a cig after a good meal. Standing in the street so as not offend those on the sidewalk with my sad and triggering habit, these two fully-clenched gay finger-pointers strolled by holding hands. As they went by, they didn't make eye contact, just gave me a side-eye smirk and frantically fanned the air as they passed. Yaas girls, judgment noted.

by Anonymousreply 146July 27, 2024 9:56 AM

Well, the proof is in the pudding.

by Anonymousreply 147July 27, 2024 9:59 AM

[quote] and frantically fanned the air as they passed.

This is why they hate us.

by Anonymousreply 148July 27, 2024 1:28 PM

Smokers always think if they turn their head and blow their smoke, or stand next to an open window and blow their smoke, that it's somehow fine and tolerable...no, it fucking stinks. People still have to deal with your funk, do that shit at home.

by Anonymousreply 149July 27, 2024 1:42 PM

Why would you ever be “impressed” by someone who smokes?

by Anonymousreply 150July 27, 2024 2:14 PM

All four of my grandparents smoked. I watched 2 grandparents die from lung cancer. It’s a horrible way to go. Third grandparent got COPD and spent his last years gasping for air. Also awful to watch. Fourth grandparent had a stroke at 62. All 4 were dead before 75. Their parents were dirt poor but lived into their 80/90s. My great grandfather barely survived the famine in Ireland but lived to 97! So, I got the message. We don’t have the genes for smoking! I never smoked or vaped and seeing a young person smoke in real life tends to bring up awful images of the suffering of my grandparents.

However, the sight of Liza puffing away in her limo or Bette sneaking a smoke after dinner doesn’t bother me. I kind of think “good for them and I wish I had those genes!”

by Anonymousreply 151July 27, 2024 6:27 PM

My grandfather and great grandmother both smoked like chimneys, unfiltered cigarettes. He lived to be 84 and she lived to be 91.

It's really all about genetics.

by Anonymousreply 152July 27, 2024 6:46 PM

I used to smoke. I loved it. If it was free and healthy I wouldn't have quit. I'm not sorry I did though not by a longshot. Drinking is also pretty unhealthy and no one looks down upon it

by Anonymousreply 153July 27, 2024 6:57 PM

R153 True. I think it’s because alcohol is far less likely to kill you. You have to be a raging alcohol for a long time to die directly from alcohol. I have many alcoholics in my family. None have a drinking related illness (yet) but one uncle has PAD from smoking to the point that he cannot walk to his mailbox (he’s 64) and my other uncle is already dead (at 58) from lung cancer. Both men drank an ocean of booze over decades.

by Anonymousreply 154July 27, 2024 7:02 PM
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by Anonymousreply 155July 27, 2024 7:10 PM

R154 It kills indirectly too if you think about so many crashes and accidents caused by alcohol. Also lots of fights, violence and domestic violence. And stupid decision making. It's not great.

by Anonymousreply 156July 27, 2024 7:11 PM

[quote]Drinking is also pretty unhealthy and no one looks down upon it

I've known more nonsmokers who died from esophageal cancer related to alcohol intake.

[quote]The risk of developing esophageal cancer is 1.3 times higher for people who consume one or two drinks per day and 5 times higher for those who consume four or more drinks daily. The risk of esophageal cancer is also higher among individuals who consume alcohol and have an atypical form of ALDH2.

by Anonymousreply 157July 27, 2024 7:53 PM

Smoking is also a big risk factor for esophageal cancer.

by Anonymousreply 158July 27, 2024 7:56 PM

Of all the things I quit doing, I'd probably go back to smoking if I could.

by Anonymousreply 159July 27, 2024 7:58 PM

Smoking is a GIANT pleasure but only up to 30. Possibly 40. It's a young person's unhealthy habit.

Most of the culture that supported smoking pleasurably and glamorously is gone now, even in Paris! Oh well.

by Anonymousreply 160July 28, 2024 1:33 AM
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by Anonymousreply 161July 28, 2024 2:37 AM

The ironic thing is so many great vocalists are smokers.

by Anonymousreply 162July 28, 2024 3:04 AM

Freud's fake theories argued that oral fixation can find cathexis in smoking. Perhaps singing would fit as well.

by Anonymousreply 163July 28, 2024 1:59 PM

The photo at r161 is kinda of silly when you think about it. Two people with lit paper sticks in their mouths.

by Anonymousreply 164July 28, 2024 5:20 PM
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by Anonymousreply 165July 28, 2024 5:50 PM

Bette can do as she pleases with her body, However, I do find it somewhat ironic she founded a non-profit which cleans up parks, plants trees and gardens yet this old broad has no issues inhaling carcinogens then blowing them out into the atmosphere as a form of pollution. Hypocrite or just a self-involved asshole?

by Anonymousreply 166July 29, 2024 5:48 AM

Oh fercrissakes R166. What a hilarious stretch. Her private plane might be a more suitable "diss" re her smoking creating air pollution.

by Anonymousreply 167July 29, 2024 11:09 AM

Can you picture what going out your last months or years with copd and lungs so bad you can’t breath in your own. Terrible.

by Anonymousreply 168July 29, 2024 4:13 PM

R168 My father went though that, not fun at all.

by Anonymousreply 169July 29, 2024 4:18 PM

R166 thinks a couple cigarettes are destroying the earth's climate and environment. 🤡

by Anonymousreply 170July 29, 2024 4:56 PM

R167, I hate to break it to you, but there are a hell of a lot more smokers than there are private jet owners. Every time she exhales she's creating pollution which affects her precious "green" agenda.

R170, multiply that by 30 million US smokers and their "couple cigarettes."

She creates green spaces which thrive on oxygen in order to survive, while depriving her lungs of the same. Makes sense.

by Anonymousreply 171July 29, 2024 5:20 PM

Comparing pollution from cigarette smoking to private jet fumes is beyond hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 172July 29, 2024 5:22 PM

Cigs don't contribute to climate change you putz.

by Anonymousreply 173July 29, 2024 5:22 PM

Unless climate change is impacted by fires, home fires, forest fires, etc I doubt smoking plays much of a role in climate change.

Smoking is a significant cause of fires inc fatal fires. Not the major cause a significant cause.

by Anonymousreply 174July 29, 2024 5:38 PM

r171 = retarted

by Anonymousreply 175July 29, 2024 5:48 PM

I have often heard that unattractive people age better because they already have hard, uneven features that do not change dramatically with age, as can be the case with those who are attractive. Sadly for Bette, this is not the case for her: she's always been ugly but God, she now looks like she should be playing every Disney witch in history.

by Anonymousreply 176July 29, 2024 6:34 PM

R176 stop talking daft and go for a lie down.

by Anonymousreply 177July 29, 2024 9:19 PM

[quote] I let friends of mine smoke in my car. As long as they hang the cig out of the window it's not bad.

Those things always end up blowing in the back of the car smoldering causing fires. The person flicks it and the wind makes it swing back in or ash lands in the back seats. Happens all the time. Dumb idea.

by Anonymousreply 178August 9, 2024 2:33 AM

r178 I've never had a car fire.

by Anonymousreply 179August 9, 2024 2:34 AM

Smokers are responsible for countless forest fires and destruction.

by Anonymousreply 180August 9, 2024 2:38 AM

Bette Midler burns forests down.

by Anonymousreply 181August 9, 2024 2:13 PM

What about cigars and pipes r180?

by Anonymousreply 182August 9, 2024 2:18 PM

It's her body, her choice.

by Anonymousreply 183August 9, 2024 2:29 PM

She's just enjoying a cig, I doubt she's a chain smoker. I am not one of them, but some people can smoke just once or twice per week and not form a massive habit.

by Anonymousreply 184August 9, 2024 2:51 PM

If she only smokes once in a while, she wouldn’t be doing it out in public in front of cameras.

by Anonymousreply 185August 9, 2024 3:14 PM

She's a lifelong smoker.

by Anonymousreply 186August 9, 2024 6:42 PM

R49-Her butt's already on the ground.

by Anonymousreply 187August 9, 2024 6:48 PM

I 💕 Bette

by Anonymousreply 188August 10, 2024 1:40 PM
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