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First suicide pod use 'soon' in Switzerland

An assisted dying group expects a portable suicide pod to be used for the first time in Switzerland, potentially within months, providing death without medical supervision, it said Wednesday.

The space-age looking Sarco capsule, first unveiled in 2019, replaces the oxygen inside it with nitrogen, causing death by hypoxia. It would cost $20 to use.

The Last Resort organisation said it saw no legal obstacle to its use in Switzerland, where the law generally allows assisted suicide if the person commits the lethal act themselves.

"Since we have people indeed queueing up, asking to use the Sarco, it's very likely that it will take place pretty soon," The Last Resort's chief executive Florian Willet told a press conference.

"I cannot imagine a more beautiful way (to die), of breathing air without oxygen until falling into an eternal sleep," he added.

The person wishing to die must first pass a psychiatric assessment of their mental capacity — a key legal requirement.

The person climbs into the purple capsule, closes the lid, and is asked automated questions such as who they are, where they are and if they know what happens when they press the button.

"'If you want to die', the voice says in the processor, 'Press this button'," said Sarco inventor Philip Nitschke, a leading global figure in right-to-die activism.

He explained that once the button is pressed, the amount of oxygen in the air plummets from 21 percent to 0.05 percent in less than 30 seconds.

"Within two breaths of air of that low level of oxygen, they will start to feel disorientated, uncoordinated and slightly euphoric before losing consciousness," Nitschke said.

"They will then stay in that state of unconsciousness for... around about five minutes before death will take place," he added.

The Sarco monitors the oxygen level in the capsule, the person's heart rate and the oxygen saturation of the blood.

"We will be able to see quite quickly when that person has died," said Nitschke.

As for someone changing their mind at the very last minute, Nitschke said: "Once you press that button, there's no way of going back."

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by Anonymousreply 157September 28, 2024 7:10 AM

[quote]"Once you press that button, there's no way of going back."

by Anonymousreply 1July 19, 2024 5:39 PM

Good! If euthanasia is good enough for pets, it should be good enough for people as well. Why you'd force someone to continue living if they don't want to is beyond me.

by Anonymousreply 2July 19, 2024 5:43 PM

I wonder if pods like these will be used to carry out executions? Sounds way more humane than any current method. Obviously, the button would have to be on the outside...

by Anonymousreply 3July 19, 2024 5:44 PM

When I go, this is how I want to go.

$20? That's a bargain.

But what happens to your body, afterwards?

Particularly for a single person with no family.

by Anonymousreply 4July 19, 2024 5:47 PM

Sounds great except

""Within two breaths of air of that low level of oxygen, they will start to feel disorientated, uncoordinated and slightly euphoric before losing consciousness," Nitschke said.

What if you felt panic in those seconds? Will they dope you up with something first? Can I have some gin & Xanax before I enter the pod? If so, then take my money!

by Anonymousreply 5July 19, 2024 5:50 PM

They found a way.

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by Anonymousreply 6July 19, 2024 5:52 PM

You would make arrangements pre suicide as to the disposal of the remains

by Anonymousreply 7July 19, 2024 5:54 PM

Morbid.

by Anonymousreply 8July 19, 2024 5:54 PM

This is how they did it in Soylent Green.

And then you were shipped off to the Food Factory.

by Anonymousreply 9July 19, 2024 5:55 PM

at first i thought it sucked that there was no "wait, i changed my mind" button, but then i realized they'd probably have lots of people do this when it was too late to perform life saving measures and they would also open themselves up to lots of legal action if the person didn't make it after changing their minds.

It seems so much like an episode from one of the Star Trek franchises.

by Anonymousreply 10July 19, 2024 6:00 PM

Oh good. Is there a waiting list?

by Anonymousreply 11July 19, 2024 6:10 PM

It has a height and age limit.

[quote]The minimum age limit is set at 50, though if someone over 18 was seriously ill, "we would not want to deny a suffering person based on their age", said Stewart.

[quote]The current Sarco could only accommodate someone five feet and eight inches (1.73 metres) tall. The development team is seeking to build a double Sarco so couples could end their lives together.

by Anonymousreply 12July 19, 2024 6:11 PM

[quote]The Last Resort organisation said it saw no legal obstacle to its use in Switzerland, where the law generally allows assisted suicide if the person commits the lethal act themselves.

It's a humane law, if a person is in terrible pain and is terminal and only has a few weeks left to live they should be able to end their suffering.

Of course we can't have this in the US because GOD AND JESUS.

by Anonymousreply 13July 19, 2024 6:13 PM

Do you need to have a terminal illness?

by Anonymousreply 14July 19, 2024 6:16 PM

So they're going to accommodate couples before they accommodate people six feet tall?

by Anonymousreply 15July 19, 2024 6:53 PM

So where do the bodies go once they are dead in the pod? Does SARCO put them somewhere, like in the trees for the birds to eat?

by Anonymousreply 16July 19, 2024 7:07 PM

I would do this if I had a terminal illness.

by Anonymousreply 17July 19, 2024 7:11 PM

I love it! Treating terminal illness is important, but sovereignty over one's person is the MOST important and MOST basic human right, full stop. Billions of idiots around the world had babies throughout the 80s and 90s not knowing whether the world had a spot for them, and in the midst of outsourcing their kids' future to the 3rd world. It's since turned into a massive shitshow of poverty, crime and arrested development, especially in the developed world. Some folks are actually living in a worse state than their parents, which is unthinkable and disgusting in a rich country. A common saying to get people to accept struggle is that "the world doesn't owe you anything", but it's also true that no person owes the world their attention, time, effort or life. And no nation is entitled to any person's labor because that's slavery. No one should ever be forced to struggle through anything if they don't want to. That's a society with real freedom and real choice. So, this is a very promising first step in getting there! 👍

by Anonymousreply 18July 19, 2024 7:24 PM

I just read a short story in a small online lit magazine that was all about this.

It was pretty great read actually.

by Anonymousreply 19July 19, 2024 7:28 PM

"The development team is seeking to build a double Sarco so couples could end their lives together."

Honey? I was thinking we could take a trip to Switzerland before the summer's over.

by Anonymousreply 20July 19, 2024 7:39 PM

sounds a little like getting a spray tan.

by Anonymousreply 21July 19, 2024 8:15 PM

Available on Amazon.

Seriously though, what a great idea. We treat animals better (someone up thread mentioned that). I want to make the decision when, how I die.

I think it shouldn't just be for people with terminal illnesses. Some people are just fucking tired of living. Our healthcare industry (USA) is designed to keep us living unrealistically longer lives....motivated by profits, of course (it IS the USA, after all)! The longer you live, the more you avail of our healthcare system the more $$$ in our coffers. Pretty sick, actually, but that's the current state of the USA.

by Anonymousreply 22July 19, 2024 8:45 PM

I'd like to order one before November.

Just in case Trump wins.

by Anonymousreply 23July 19, 2024 8:51 PM

This should really just be available in pill form.

by Anonymousreply 24July 19, 2024 9:08 PM

fuck yes

by Anonymousreply 25July 19, 2024 9:14 PM

I have a paranoic concern that people are going to be coerced into offing themselves by nefarious spouses and family members. You can't be charged with murder if the victim pressed the button.

by Anonymousreply 26July 19, 2024 9:22 PM

This is cooler, though.

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by Anonymousreply 27July 19, 2024 9:22 PM

[quote]Of course we can't have this in the US because GOD AND JESUS.

Of course, godless liberals do not value the life of anyone.

Unless they're convicted murderers.

And they wonder why they're going to lose big this year.

by Anonymousreply 28July 19, 2024 9:24 PM

"l"They will then stay in that state of unconsciousness for... around about five minutes before death will take place"

Why that long? Wouldn't it be better if you die right away, in just a few seconds?

by Anonymousreply 29July 19, 2024 9:26 PM

R12 So only short old people can use this?

by Anonymousreply 30July 19, 2024 9:27 PM

Objectively true, R27. Great concept!

by Anonymousreply 31July 19, 2024 9:27 PM

Woohoo! For ONCE, my shortness is a benefit, not a deficit!

by Anonymousreply 32July 19, 2024 10:02 PM

[quote]Wouldn't it be better if you die right away, in just a few seconds?

It's taking forever.

by Anonymousreply 33July 19, 2024 10:05 PM

It's killing through oxygen deprivation and that's how long it takes the brain to say it's all done.

by Anonymousreply 34July 19, 2024 10:09 PM

R34 so what if they take you out too soon and your brain is fried but you're still alive, let's say they open the hatch at 4:30 by mistake, and you have a brain cell left. FML!

by Anonymousreply 35July 19, 2024 10:10 PM

yeah well if I have half a brain cell left I don't think I'll know it

by Anonymousreply 36July 19, 2024 10:12 PM

I have cancer. Treatment not going well. I'm not looking forward to a slow death in hospice care. I wish I had this available.

by Anonymousreply 37July 19, 2024 10:14 PM

I'm sorry, R37.

As I understand things, a sympathetic doctor can accidentally prescribe too much morphine in terminal cases.

by Anonymousreply 38July 19, 2024 10:16 PM

R37 can you go to Oregon? CA's laws are more restrictive. Not sure where you are. I'm very sorry to hear this. Wishing you peace on the way -

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by Anonymousreply 39July 19, 2024 10:16 PM

r37 what r38 said is true (but I'm sure not exactly easy to find - they tend not to advertise this for obvious reasons).

My stepdad's father was dying slowly and a doctor/nurse combo showed him what to do to help him end his suffering (at the request of the dying father).

by Anonymousreply 40July 19, 2024 10:19 PM

[quote] As for someone changing their mind at the very last minute, Nitschke said: "Once you press that button, there's no way of going back."

Oh shit, those are very consequential decisions, don’t screw this up.

by Anonymousreply 41July 19, 2024 10:45 PM

[quote] When I go, this is how I want to go. $20? That's a bargain. But what happens to your body, afterwards? Particularly for a single person with no family.

There’s a beautiful bronze dumpster out back with a soft silky silver sage lining that is used to hold the remains, until the dumpster is full and then they are heaved into the fire.

by Anonymousreply 42July 19, 2024 10:51 PM

[quote] so what if they take you out too soon and your brain is fried but you're still alive, let's say they open the hatch at 4:30 by mistake, and you have a brain cell left

They stick a meat thermometer in you.

If you're not fully cooked, then they stick you back in the pod until you're done.

by Anonymousreply 43July 19, 2024 11:05 PM

r28 a godless liberal is just human evolution.

by Anonymousreply 44July 19, 2024 11:12 PM

R28 would be in the Antebellum south preaching to slaves about how meaningful their lives are and to be thankful for the many gifts from heaven.

by Anonymousreply 45July 19, 2024 11:24 PM

It would be perfect if it euthanized the person then composted the corpse.

by Anonymousreply 46July 19, 2024 11:32 PM

I wonder what name Trump would come with for him…

by Anonymousreply 47July 19, 2024 11:36 PM

[quote] It would be perfect if it euthanized the person then composted the corpse.

Indeed.

It should be a combination death chamber and ultra high temperature blast furnace.

After 5 minutes, a 10,000 degree aerosol spray flame shoots out from the ceiling for a solid 10 minutes, until there's nothing left but ashes.

Then a company representative will come by and empty the capsule like an ashtray.

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by Anonymousreply 48July 19, 2024 11:39 PM

What if people are tricked into it?

"Grandma, it's a Photo Booth. Just smile and press the button when prompted."

by Anonymousreply 49July 19, 2024 11:49 PM

"so what if they take you out too soon and your brain is fried but you're still alive, let's say they open the hatch at 4:30 by mistake, and you have a brain cell left. "

Then you vote Republican for the rest of your life.

by Anonymousreply 50July 20, 2024 12:10 AM

R37 research Inositol hexaphosphate (IP6)

by Anonymousreply 51July 20, 2024 4:11 AM

Better than a 6’2” 200 lb. movie ticket tech dude landing on you as you walk through midtown.

by Anonymousreply 52July 20, 2024 4:50 AM

It's going to be one of those things where there's a long line and the pod is kinda filthy inside (don't they ever clean this thing?), but you're already committed and besides there's no refunds and you're just so tired it's been a very long day, so you reluctantly climb inside and there's this weird smell and then you die

by Anonymousreply 53July 20, 2024 5:50 AM

And so it begins....

[quote] US woman dies in controversial suicide capsule in Switzerland

A 64-year-old US woman took her own life inside a controversial suicide capsule at a Swiss woodland retreat, with police on Tuesday saying several people had been arrested.

The space-age looking Sarco capsule, which fills with nitrogen and causes death by hypoxia, was used on Monday outside a village near the German border.

The portable human-sized pod, self-operated by a button inside, has raised a host of legal and ethical questions in Switzerland. Active euthanasia is banned in the country but assisted dying has been legal for decades.

On the same day it was used, Switzerland's Interior Minister Elisabeth Baume-Schneider told lawmakers that the Sarco was "not legal".

Police in the northern Schaffhausen canton said several people had been taken into custody and face criminal proceedings.

The Last Resort, an assisted dying organisation, presented the Sarco pod in Zurich in July, saying they expected it to be used for the first time within months, and saw no legal obstacle to its use in Switzerland.

In a statement to AFP, The Last Resort said the person who died, who was not named, was a 64-year-old woman from the midwestern United States.

She "had been suffering for many years from a number of serious problems associated with severe immune compromise", the statement said.

The death took place "under a canopy of trees, at a private forest retreat".

The association's co-president Florian Willet was the only other person present, and described the woman's death as "peaceful, fast and dignified", according to the statement.

The cantonal public prosecutor's office "has opened criminal proceedings against several people for inducement and aiding and abetting suicide... and several people have been placed in police custody," a police statement said.

The public prosecutor's office had been informed by a law firm on Monday that an assisted suicide had taken place at a forest hut in Merishausen.

The police, the forensic emergency service and the public prosecutor's office "went to the crime scene".

The Sarco suicide capsule was secured and the deceased taken away for an autopsy.

"We found the capsule with the lifeless person inside," said Schaffhausen's public prosecutor Peter Sticher.

He told Blick newspaper that several people were arrested "so that they were not colluding with each other or covering up evidence".

Sticher said the operators knew the risks of being arrested.

"We warned them in writing. We said that if they came to Schaffhausen and used Sarco, they would face criminal consequences," he said.

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by Anonymousreply 54September 24, 2024 6:17 PM

Why are they lining up to use these when the Swiss authorities have warned them in advance they're not sanctioned for use?

by Anonymousreply 55September 24, 2024 6:19 PM

The Sarco was invented by Philip Nitschke, a leading global figure in right-to-die activism.

The 3D-printable capsule cost more than 650,000 euros ($725,000) to research and develop in the Netherlands over 12 years. Future Sarcos could cost around 15,000 euros. The pods are reusable.

In a statement, Nitschke said he was "pleased that the Sarco had performed exactly as it had been designed to do: that is to provide an elective, non-drug, peaceful death at the time of the person's choosing".

To use the Sarco, the person wishing to die must first pass a psychiatric assessment.

The person climbs into the purple capsule, closes the lid, and is asked automated questions such as who they are, where they are and if they know what happens when they press the button.

In July, Nitschke explained that once the button is pressed, the amount of oxygen in the air plummets from 21 percent to 0.05 percent in less than 30 seconds.

The person inside quickly loses consciousness before dying within around five minutes.

Nitschke's Exit International organisation, which owns the Sarco, is a non-profit group funded by donations. The only cost for the user is 18 Swiss francs ($21) for the nitrogen.

In July, Willet said Switzerland was "by far the best place" for the Sarco to be used, due to its "wonderful liberal system".

Swiss law generally allows assisted suicide if the person commits the lethal act themselves.

But interior minister Baume-Schneider, taking questions in parliament on Monday, said: "The Sarco suicide capsule is not legally compliant."

"Firstly, it does not meet the requirements of product safety law and therefore cannot be placed on the market. Secondly, the corresponding use of nitrogen is not compatible with the purpose article of the Chemicals Act," she said.

Fiona Stewart, who is on The Last Resort's advisory board, said the group was acting on legal advice, which "since 2021 has consistently found that the use of Sarco in Switzerland would be lawful".

by Anonymousreply 56September 24, 2024 6:20 PM

The Swiss really get off on killing people. No wonder they aligned with the Nazis.

by Anonymousreply 57September 24, 2024 6:43 PM

If you’re building the machine then you’re just as capable.

by Anonymousreply 58September 24, 2024 6:44 PM

Culpable, R58.

Not capable.

And R57, they are killing anyone, if it's the person's own desire to end their life.

What a person chooses to do with their life is no one's business but their own.

MAGATS just don't understand this concept. You people are always trying to interfere in EVERYONE ELSE's life, but you cry like whiny cunts, when the same is done to you.

by Anonymousreply 59September 24, 2024 6:46 PM

[quote] So only short old people can use this?

Yeah, 'cause short people go no reason to live.

by Anonymousreply 60September 24, 2024 6:53 PM

[quote] But what happens to your body, afterwards? Particularly for a single person with no family.

You think a family will be fighting over who gets possession of your body? I shouldn't think that having a family matters much. But yes, the question of what happens to the body is an interesting one if not for the person who commits suicide (or his family).

Like aborition clinics, these should be readily available in a city of any size.

by Anonymousreply 61September 24, 2024 6:53 PM

There’s no dignity in suicide.

by Anonymousreply 62September 24, 2024 7:21 PM

I don't understand why the company went forward with this if the legality is still questionable. What a mess for everyone.

by Anonymousreply 63September 24, 2024 7:25 PM

[quote] There’s no dignity in suicide.

There's no "dignity" in dying an awful, miserable, lonely and painful death.

Fixed it for you.

You have no idea what you're talking about, R62.

If only you can go through the pain and suffering that these people have gone through, and THEN you would understand.

Let's hope.

by Anonymousreply 64September 24, 2024 7:27 PM

Dateline just hit the goldmine

A bunch of Swiss fraus will die under mysterious pod circumstances leaving a grieving widower.

by Anonymousreply 65September 24, 2024 7:37 PM

Why shouldn’t the mentally ill be allowed to kill themselves? It’s their body, they’re choice. Many of them will never get better. This shit makes no sense. There’s no point to a psychological exam if you’re saying people should be allowed to murder themselves. Mental illness is an illness that is permanent.

by Anonymousreply 66September 24, 2024 8:02 PM

[quote]But what happens to your body, afterwards? Particularly for a single person with no family.

Personally, I do not give one single fuck what happens to my body "afterwards".

by Anonymousreply 67September 24, 2024 8:05 PM

I'm way too claustrophobic for this.

by Anonymousreply 68September 24, 2024 8:11 PM

I have fibromyalgia and it's not going well. I would like to talk about this a lot.

by Anonymousreply 69September 24, 2024 8:14 PM

R66, many forms of mental illness are treatable. Millions of people have psychotic breaks, depressive and manic episodes, get through them, and get on with their lives, often without medication. Even schizophrenia can be manageable with medication compliance, stress management and support.

by Anonymousreply 70September 24, 2024 8:34 PM

[quote] But what happens to your body, afterwards?

How else do you think they're going to manufacture that delicious Soylent Green?

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by Anonymousreply 71September 24, 2024 8:36 PM

Baby, you're so stressed. I want you to try this meditation pod, just close your eyes and press the button...

by Anonymousreply 72September 24, 2024 8:57 PM

Certain suicides should be authorized only for those in severe physical pain and dying. In general social acceptance of suicide is a dangerous slippery slope.

by Anonymousreply 73September 24, 2024 9:01 PM

Why is euthanasia so taboo? In fact, death is too taboo in our society. If I was a paraplegic and could only move my eyes, I wouldn't want to live like that. It's a burden on me and the people (who's most likely family) who has to take care of me. Fuck that, just kill me and get it over with. We euthanize pets when putting them down is more merciful than keeping them alive to suffer. Why is the same idea not applied to humans?

by Anonymousreply 74September 24, 2024 9:06 PM

God gave each of us a beautiful soul for a reason. We are the most intelligent species on Earth. We can mitigate pain and improve our deficiencies. Life is beautiful and should not be taken for granted. The death penalty should also be illegal everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 75September 24, 2024 9:08 PM

R75 = Marjorie Taylor Greene

by Anonymousreply 76September 24, 2024 9:20 PM

It's so weird to be that right-wingers are so concerned about euthanasia, when they don't give a fuck about gun violence.

The hypocrisy is astounding.

And they would just as soon see a dead Democrat, rather than accept their point of view.

Fucking cunts.

by Anonymousreply 77September 24, 2024 9:28 PM

This is grim. I don't think it should exist. If you really want to do it, you'll figure out a way.

I was just thinking if I were Diddy, I'd rather die than be in prison after 35 years of luxury and doing whatever I wanted whenever I wanted.

by Anonymousreply 78September 24, 2024 9:28 PM

I’m sorry I just don’t trust white people with stuff like this. They always start out with good intentions.

And the Catholic in me just cannot support it.

by Anonymousreply 79September 24, 2024 9:31 PM

R78

"I don't think it should exist. If you really want to do it, you'll figure out a way."

So you'd rather someone commit suicide with a messy method? What better way to go than peacefully and without causing any trauma to your family?

by Anonymousreply 80September 24, 2024 9:32 PM

R80 There are plenty of not messy methods.

by Anonymousreply 81September 24, 2024 9:39 PM

But is it suicide suicide.

I played in Ghost.

by Anonymousreply 82September 24, 2024 9:40 PM

R81 "plenty" is too big of a word.

by Anonymousreply 83September 24, 2024 9:43 PM

R83 Google it.

by Anonymousreply 84September 24, 2024 9:44 PM
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by Anonymousreply 85September 24, 2024 9:45 PM

R70 - so you’re saying that prople who are suffering with mental illness that may debilitate (even if not always) should have to suffer? Who are you to judge what anyone else can or should endure?

R75 - not everyone subscribes to the fairytales you do. If you believe all that, then fine, don’t choose assisted death. Others should be free to believe and do what they want with their own bodies. Like bodily autonomy over abortion. It’s all healthcare to many people.

by Anonymousreply 86September 24, 2024 10:02 PM

R86 I'm pretty sure R75 is a troll.

by Anonymousreply 87September 24, 2024 10:04 PM

R86 But I think it is a terrible slippery slope as the government may dictate one can’t live past 50 because of overpopulation, lack of resources or allow very late term abortions.

by Anonymousreply 88September 24, 2024 10:06 PM

I’m not a troll I just have my beliefs.

by Anonymousreply 89September 24, 2024 10:06 PM

R88 if the government doesn't want one someone to live, they can kill them already without a euthanasia pod. This is something voluntary.

by Anonymousreply 90September 24, 2024 10:08 PM

r87 are you unaware that r75 is Teacake?

by Anonymousreply 91September 24, 2024 10:09 PM

R91 I don't care if it's the Virgin Mary. Still a troll.

by Anonymousreply 92September 24, 2024 10:16 PM

Well, yeah. That was my point, r92...

by Anonymousreply 93September 24, 2024 10:20 PM

When I read the story there was a Chevrolet ad on the page. Probably not the placement they would want.

by Anonymousreply 94September 24, 2024 10:37 PM

I’m not a troll. Yall can miss me with that bullshit. Everybody is a troll you don’t agree with.

by Anonymousreply 95September 24, 2024 10:39 PM

[quote]I have cancer. Treatment not going well. I'm not looking forward to a slow death in hospice care. I wish I had this available.

Do you live near a high bridge?

by Anonymousreply 96September 24, 2024 10:48 PM

No one should be charged in this. If you’re terminally ill or are suffering from a chronic disease, you should have to the right to die painlessly as possible.

by Anonymousreply 97September 24, 2024 10:49 PM

R96 That’s not funny. And no one should be encouraging someone to go the suicide route over the net. The person might just feel hopeless. I believe suicide as a last resort for someone truly suffering with a terminal illness.

by Anonymousreply 98September 24, 2024 11:31 PM

I don’t want to be a burden to my family when I can’t properly care for myself; I hope something like this is available when I feel my time has come. My body my choice should be a general rule for everyone.

by Anonymousreply 99September 25, 2024 12:23 AM

[quote] No one should be charged in this. If you’re terminally ill or are suffering from a chronic disease, you should have to the right to die painlessly as possible.

Precisely.

Right now, the options are to try and kill yourself in a painful and messy way, if you're suffering from a painful and debilitating disease.

This option in Switzerland sounds peaceful and serene.

That's the way that EVERYONE should be able to die.

by Anonymousreply 100September 25, 2024 12:43 AM

[quote]Certain suicides should be authorized only for those in severe physical pain and dying. In general social acceptance of suicide is a dangerous slippery slope.

I used to be in favor of euthanasia but Canada's been so overly enthusiastic with it I'm starting to agree with this view.

Terminal bone cancer? Yes, that person deserves a painless death. But Canada has people wanting MAID because they're living in poverty (and I'm side-eyeing the fuck out of their government for that).

by Anonymousreply 101September 25, 2024 12:45 AM

When the going gets tough, the tough off themselves.

by Anonymousreply 102September 25, 2024 3:51 AM

I need this pod thanks to Cipro. Instead I'll have to do something much worse and not 100% guaranteed. Not one of us asked to be brought into this shit world, now let us the fuck out.

by Anonymousreply 103September 25, 2024 10:29 AM

R75 What is a soul? Explain to me, what the fuck is a soul?

by Anonymousreply 104September 25, 2024 7:08 PM

I think this should be offered to inmates. Like, if I'm in Diddy's situation, just let me end it all. Justice would be served via a self-inflicted death penalty. I find it human. Also, the guy from Glee with the child porn who killed himself. Don't know he did it, but some folks will never recover socially or see freedom again, why not save everyone time and energy and offer an off-ramp?

by Anonymousreply 105September 25, 2024 7:14 PM

R81 What are these not messy methods, that are 100 guaranteed you will die, that no one will find your dead body and be scarred for life? List them.

And why not these method then, what makes other suicide methods superior to this one?

by Anonymousreply 106September 25, 2024 7:15 PM

R104 a soul is love, it’s is grief, it is art, creativity, it is guilt, it is anger, it is pleasure.

by Anonymousreply 107September 25, 2024 7:21 PM

R105 What a terrible logic. So a child abusers and rapists should have a chance at taking the easy way out? No, they should spend their eternity in jail. Also, there already are methods for killing people in prisons. There have been for millennia

by Anonymousreply 108September 25, 2024 7:22 PM

R107 So you have no idea? As I thought

by Anonymousreply 109September 25, 2024 7:22 PM

[Quote] "'If you want to die', the voice says in the processor, 'Press this button',"

This should be placed next to Trump’s name on the ballot in November

by Anonymousreply 110September 25, 2024 7:24 PM

R109 I hate people who ask a question. Don’t like the response and then insult the person to whom the question was asked.

Scratch that, hate is a strong word. But I really dislike that.

by Anonymousreply 111September 25, 2024 7:27 PM

Why is it no surprise Defacto at r107 is a god botherer?

Meanwhile he’s talking about love and a soul but spends all his time here lying and trolling. So much for a “soul!”

He has me blocked btw, can’t imagine why. 😂

by Anonymousreply 112September 25, 2024 7:30 PM

R112 I’m not defacto you weirdo. For all we know you are defacto. You sure are obsessed with that fugly animal.

by Anonymousreply 113September 25, 2024 7:31 PM

And I don’t have you blocked. Ion have nobody blocked.

by Anonymousreply 114September 25, 2024 7:32 PM

[quote] But what happens to your body, afterwards? Particularly for a single person with no family.

If you don't make arrangements ahead of time, in the US your body gets cremated and the ashes to to the city dump. That's where most of the poors end up. Right next to used dildos, dead fish and bags of dog poop.

by Anonymousreply 115September 25, 2024 7:39 PM

I think an improvement for the pod (in my opinion) is to make the top part clear so one can see the sky and trees as they fall asleep. Or the stars and moon at night. I will die alone without a lot of money so this would be perfect for me with that upgrade.

by Anonymousreply 116September 25, 2024 8:04 PM

r108, if death isn't considered the ultimate punishment, the death penalty wouldn't exist for the worst offenders. Death is the worst option and saves us money if inmates can legally off themselves.

I didn't remember anyone shedding tears for Osama getting a bullet to the brain by Seal Team 6 instead of standing trial. Death works in so many cases, why not include suicide for prisons?

by Anonymousreply 117September 25, 2024 8:19 PM

The state doesn’t have the right to determine if anyone should live or die. The death penalty is an abomination and immoral.

by Anonymousreply 118September 25, 2024 8:21 PM

r118, how do you square that with war, where zero du process occurs before someone gets killed?

by Anonymousreply 119September 25, 2024 8:22 PM

R119 War is different because one expects he or she may die and are killing the enemy to protect our freedoms; though I’m generally against war too.

by Anonymousreply 120September 25, 2024 8:24 PM

[Quote] Ion have nobody blocked.

Yes because black people often write “ion,” fat snout.

by Anonymousreply 121September 25, 2024 8:46 PM

R121 I do because I’m me. I will never stop being me. Go find defacto so you can beg him to eff you.

by Anonymousreply 122September 25, 2024 8:50 PM

This creeps me out. It's like the beginning of a dystopian novel..or middle of, oh shit, it is dystopia..

by Anonymousreply 123September 25, 2024 9:06 PM

r120 so if war is means in which you accept government sanctioned murder, because people "expect" to die, why not hold the same views for prisoner suicide or the death penalty? Personally, I too oppose the death penalty, but I 100% think inmate suicide should be an option.

by Anonymousreply 124September 25, 2024 9:15 PM

R106 Do you want me to google for you and send you links? Are your arms broken?

by Anonymousreply 125September 25, 2024 9:56 PM

[Quote] [R121] I do because I’m me

The “me” in question

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by Anonymousreply 126September 25, 2024 11:42 PM

[Quote] This creeps me out.

It might not creep you out as much when you have cancer and you’re looking down the barrel at months of agony.

by Anonymousreply 127September 25, 2024 11:43 PM

R126. That is the ONLY picture of Defacto I’ve seen where he looks somewhat fuckable.

At any rate, leave me lone’. Stop being ghetto.

by Anonymousreply 128September 26, 2024 12:02 AM

[quote]MAGATS just don't understand this concept. You people are always trying to interfere in EVERYONE ELSE's life, but you cry like whiny cunts, when the same is done to you.

r59 Imagine politicizing the issue of facilitated suicide.

by Anonymousreply 129September 26, 2024 12:17 AM

I think it's the best invention in decades. finally something that serves humanity and makes sense. I wish we had them in the US right now - I'd book an appointment right away. My life ended when my husband died 1.5 years ago - no one really cares, at least for more than a few minutes - no one can replace him - and my future is gone - I'm ready to go.

by Anonymousreply 130September 26, 2024 12:31 AM

[Quote] [R126]. That is the ONLY picture of Defacto I’ve seen where he looks somewhat fuckable.

I guess that’ll make masturbation easier.

Enough with the minstrel show.

by Anonymousreply 131September 26, 2024 12:53 AM

r130 This is exactly why something like this shouldn't be implemented on a global scale. With mental health getting ever worse amongst the human population, people would be making permanent decisions over temporary situations in droves. Say what you will, but killing yourself because you're sad, grieving, or depressed is definitely making a permanent decision over a fixable problem. It's not a terminal illness where a slow painful death is the prognosis.

by Anonymousreply 132September 26, 2024 1:00 AM

This is like an old Star Trek episode where they beamed down to a planet at war with itself. They watch a digital map light up as each side hits the other with virtual bombs. If you are in that location, you report to one of their death centers and they put you to sleep. That way no one really gets hurt, cities do not get destroyed. Life goes on interrupted.

Of course the moral of that story is without actual pain and destruction, nothing to prevent them from ever ending the war. So Kirk destroys their computer system so they have to FEEL what actual war is like in order to force both sides to come to an agreement.

by Anonymousreply 133September 26, 2024 3:14 AM

It was used, and people were arrested.

by Anonymousreply 134September 26, 2024 4:12 AM

R132 - it's absolutely none of your business what R130 decides to do with his/her life. Their life doesn't have anything to do with you and you are not entitled to pass your opinion on someone else's situation or the decisions they make about their life - especially from a 3 line post on Datalounge. You don't know R130. You will never know R130 and what R130 does is none of your goddamn business.

How about you concentrate solely on yourself and your own life and choices and not on what other people are doing with their lives which doesn't affect you in any way, shape or form. In fact, if more Americans spent less time trying to invade and control the lives and choices of their fellow Americans then much of the hatred and division in America would simply cease to exist.

The article specifically says that it is a Swiss legal requirement that a person wanting to use the Swiss suicide pods needs to submit to psychiatric assessments of their mental capacity before being approved. I live in a country where medically assisted dying is legal for terminally ill patients and there are plenty of checks and balances and alternatives offered along the way. For those who ultimately decide they want to follow through, they must gain the approval of a medical doctor and two psychiatrists over a specific period of waiting time in order to proceed. R130 would be caught up in that process if he/she were not eligible. Medically assisted dying isn't used by many but it is an option for some.

Is it something I would do? Impossible to answer because I'm not terminally ill. But it's absolutely none of my goddamn business what other people decide to do and I have no right to lecture anyone else or try to restrict and control their life choices.

As R134 has posted; it was used by a 64 year old American woman and several people, including someone who took photographs, have been detained by regional police on suspicion of aiding and abetting suicide.

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by Anonymousreply 135September 26, 2024 5:09 AM

[quote]You will never know [R130] and what [R130] does is none of your goddamn business.

r135 The moment people like r130 start advocating for, what will undoubtedly be taxpayer funded, assistance with ending their own life because they "can't handle it anymore" it becomes my, and all of our, business by default. If you want to take your life, while unfortunate, don't expect the government or anyone else to step in and "assist you" in accomplishing that.

You don't get to call it "your choice" and then turn around and in the same breath ask for "unopinionated support" in carrying out that choice. Especially when you're only doing it because you're just depressed yet otherwise physically healthy, not because you are actively dying from a terminal illness.

by Anonymousreply 136September 26, 2024 5:43 AM

These will be everywhere some day, like pay phones used to be.

by Anonymousreply 137September 26, 2024 6:22 AM

Suicide pod? Charmant!

by Anonymousreply 138September 26, 2024 12:17 PM

Shoosheye posh? Nah pillsh?

by Anonymousreply 139September 26, 2024 12:44 PM

This is what the Sarco Pod looks like.

I love how the pod is set up next to the kitchen table and bar.

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by Anonymousreply 140September 26, 2024 3:02 PM

What if my cat hopped in it??

by Anonymousreply 141September 26, 2024 4:42 PM

R111 But you didn't gave an answer. You gave a word salad

by Anonymousreply 142September 26, 2024 4:54 PM

R125 Google what? Since you are talking out if your ass and there are no real answers to those questions

by Anonymousreply 143September 26, 2024 4:56 PM

Ghastly, just ghastly.

by Anonymousreply 144September 26, 2024 5:18 PM

[quote] The current Sarco could only accommodate someone five feet and eight inches (1.73 metres) tall.

Damn!

by Anonymousreply 145September 26, 2024 5:22 PM

looks comfy

by Anonymousreply 146September 26, 2024 7:09 PM

Can you send one as an anonymous present?

by Anonymousreply 147September 26, 2024 8:03 PM

R147 = Donald Trump Jr.

by Anonymousreply 148September 26, 2024 8:04 PM

R140 Her dress is making me wanna climb in and lie down.

by Anonymousreply 149September 26, 2024 9:33 PM

R136 you are disturbed, how on Earth is that your focus? I'm not asking anyone else to pay for it. We are all part of the same system, none of us would have anything without it - you don't get to pick and chose what you pay for based on your own inept limited views and thoughts.

by Anonymousreply 150September 26, 2024 11:38 PM

There should be other options available.

The pod is nice & a neat way to go, but personally? I’d rather jump off a plane, sans parachute.

I also envision a suicidal theme park, where people can request to die in different scenarios, for instance, an Evil Kneivel sort of death with a motorcycle & 10 monster trucks the suicidal client would be required to jump, yet wouldn’t & certain death is at hand.

Obviously, entrance should be totally free. Even $20 bucks is too much.

I have mixed feelings about this stuff. The ethics behind it will always be in question, & criminal charges & lawsuits will eventually follow.

by Anonymousreply 151September 27, 2024 12:36 AM

[quote][R136] you are disturbed,

r150 If not believing assisted suicide should ever be socially accepted or implemented for individuals who struggle with depression and other mental health issues that cause suicide ideation and instead think more funding should be focused on strengthening or mental health system to help individuals who feel suicide is the answer makes me "disturbed" then I will own that. Happily. I couldn't care less how you feel about it, honestly.

Under no circumstances should assisted suicide be available to people struggling with depression or other mental health issues. Ever. That is barbaric.

by Anonymousreply 152September 27, 2024 12:40 AM

It should be called the DIEPod

by Anonymousreply 153September 27, 2024 10:50 AM

Will it have surround sound? A viewing window or camera so the process can be ( pardon the pun) live streamed on Facebook or YouTube? Will it have the ability to use essential fragrance oils or at least a Glade plug-in? Will a bariatric model be available for use in the southeastern United States? And finally will it accommodate finer bed linens because God knows I don't want to venture into eternity just lying on some PVC uncushioned bench!

by Anonymousreply 154September 27, 2024 12:01 PM

Drink holder? Ashtray? Magazines?

by Anonymousreply 155September 27, 2024 2:04 PM

Reminds me of Patsy and Eddie and the sensory deprivation chamber.

by Anonymousreply 156September 27, 2024 9:49 PM

It needs WiFi access in there, because we WILL have some final words!

by Anonymousreply 157September 28, 2024 7:10 AM
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