I'm fucking sick of the "both sides" narrative that's proliferated in the media since Saturday

I always use the "both sides" comparison, "How come I have to go to jail for robbing a liquor store when my neighbor is walking around free after getting a parking ticket?"

Both sides are NOT the same

The GOP leaning on the "both sides" button is hardly a new thing.

Assassin is an incel REFUG by early reporting. Not both sides. He's probably also a fundie and hated Trump for Epstein.

@r2, But it's a lame excuse for bad behavior that never ends

At Trump's rally on Saturday, several people in the audience were holding "Fuck Biden" signs and were giving the finger to the news media. This week, at the convention, the GOP will launch non-stop attacks on Biden -- most of them unfair and untrue. But if anyone dares to criticize Trump this week, the response will be that it's "too soon" after the assassination attempt.

[quote] He's probably also a fundie and hated Trump for Epstein.

Just stop it with this Epstein shit. We know that the shooter was a registered Republican, but 20-year-olds don't know who Epstein is or care.

[quote]No, "both sides" are not equally culpable for the political violence in this country,

What's hilarious is that somewhere in this country, at this very moment, there's some MAGA cultist lamenting this exact same bullshit and sincerely believing it.

I read online the would be assassin posted online about Epstein. Perhaps just gossip, of course.

No both sides-ing this.

"According to former Trump Attorney General Bill Barr , Donald Trump on multiple occasions floated the idea of executing individuals who disagreed with him. Every American needs to see this so they know how dangerous Trump is."

No both sides-ing this.

"Mitt Romney admitted he has to spend money on security for his family. He said his fellow Republicans are also terrified for their safety.

Who's the threat? MAGA Republican voters.

There's no both sides here, folks."

No both sides-ing this.

"You wanted to kill Nancy Pelosi. You wanted to hang the vice president. You gravely injured law enforcement officers. You laud a teen who killed 2 people. You oppose reasonable gun legislation.

So as you clutch your pearls tonight, remember this:

You did this. Kindly f**k off."

No both sides-ing this, regarding our presidental nominees.

"Trump’s name appears over and over again on Jeffrey Epstein’s message logs in the grand jury docs released this week. It is also undisputed: Trump’s name appears 7 times on Epstein’s private jet flight logs, that Epstein flew on Trump’s jet with a young girl of indeterminate age, girls who Epstein trafficked worked at Mar-A-Lago, a girl Epstein trafficked mentioned visiting Trump’s casino in a recently released deposition transcript,Trump said Epstein is a great guy who likes girls on the younger side, Trump frequently “partied” with Epstein, Trump wished Ghislaine Maxwell well at her criminal trial, and someone who testified under the pseudonym JANE DOE at the Ghislaine Maxwell criminal trial stated that she was introduced to Trump by Epstein when she was 14 years old. We report on it here with all receipt s"

It is infuriating!!! Legitimate news organizations are reporting this bullshit about both sides contributing to a climate of violence. It is ONLY Trump and the bloodlust of his fucking MAGAts who have created a culture of political division and violence. It's hard to even believe that what happened was some spontaneous assassination attempt. If ever there was a person who would stage such an accident, it is Trump and his Trumpanzees.

Secret service is being blamed. I hope they hustle with their investigation and prove this was a false flag before November.

Change the x to 'twitter' in these links, ffs.

Sicka this

If you have X, this poster has gathered just some of the many, many Republican ads prefaced on violence towards Democrats/others. Perhaps the media might find time to watch?

"If you're planning your next op/ed and you intend to scold both sides for violent rhetoric, think again and watch the following seven videos. Republicans have been producing violent ads targeting both legislation and actual Democrats for years. Let's review."

Wonder when this site is going to just finally fix the 'x' linking.

No both sides-ing this.

".@ruthbenghiat in 1/6 related interview:

“Democratic politicians, they may use heated words, but they do not pose in their campaign ads or as sitting lawmakers with assault weapons, saying that these assault weapons, you could use them to overthrow the government.

“They do not espouse Oath Keepers and other extremists. And so it's not that you can never criticize the Democrats, but it is a false equivalency. And January 6 is proof of that.”

Sharing this context ob 2 Republican lawmakers are making dangerous and unfounded accusations."

The fact that a liberal forum like DL has been over run with constant pleas and requests for someone to kill Trump over the past 6 months. Almost daily someone on DL has called for someone to kill Trump.

Of course being DL that was all talk and yacking like hens in the chicken yard not someone who would actually do anything.

Our DL motto “ we may talk a lot of shit but we sit back while others do shit.”

Op there are two MAGAs now. Two little sets of brown shirts. One red, one blue.

This is the world your candidate has wrought. I hope you like it.

No both sides-ing this. None. Absolutely no possible way, and fuck off even trying.

"The Secret Trumpworld Target List Has Been Leaked and It Is Absolutely Bonkers—a Full-On Nazi Germany-Like Scheme to Eliminate Via Incarceration All Political Opposition to Donald Trump Inside the United States

The names on this list include basically everyone who has ever publicly displeased Trump, including powerful Republicans, powerful Democrats, lifelong civil servants, members of law enforcement...

...this is easily one of the most horrifying documents ever to be published.

I'm trying to work through my head the legality of a conspiracy to incarcerate people who haven't committed crimes, but honestly this is so far outside the understanding of an American criminal defense attorney that we almost have to look to advice from war crimes prosecutors.

The author of this horrifying document is well known to Trump and is especially close to Michael Flynn, according to reports. In fact I think you will be amazed how well-connected the author of this list is. They will try to "Coffee Boy" him but they can't. He's in Trumpworld.

If America were a functioning country the existence of a list of this sort would set into motion investigations at DOJ, the FBI, the CIA, and NSA, the DIA and more.

This is an *incredibly* serious domestic conspiracy, even if its legal dimensions are not yet fully understood.

It is not too much to say that if people really understood what this vile list is, the seriousness of purpose behind it, and the connections between its author and Trump's inner circle, it would all but end the Trump campaign.

This is a plot to turn America into Nazi Germany."

I’m desperate for the photo that shows a tiny piece of glass cutting his ear.

Cont:

"At the *absolute minimum*, the author of this document and his closest associates need to be interviewed by the FBI immediately to determine how this terrifying list was compiled, who was involved in compiling it, and what steps have been taken to further its stated ambitions.

And obviously one of the questions we need an answer to is whether Trump knew of this list.

And I hope it goes without saying that Trump's claims on the question *categorically cannot be trusted*.

The FBI needs to conduct *its own investigation* to determine what Trump knew.

I left out the Secret Service and Capitol Police—but given the names on this list both those agencies must be mobilized ASAP to conduct a major cross-agency federal investigation into this horrifying document. These public officials and servants are now being *targeted*."

Both sides indeed.

But watch what trump does now. He has already announced the first attack line to be used at the convention. Trump will go radical nice.

Unity Unity Unity

“Can’t we all get along”

A wounded man a man who they tried to kill asking that we all come together as Americans. And that will appeal to a few voters in those 3-4 swing states that Biden needs to win all of.

Biden has lost his chance to win, RIP American Democracy as we have know it.

Sorry, R14. I wasn't aware we could do that. Thanks!

[quote]The fact that a liberal forum like DL ...

I assume the fact that DL is a "liberal forum" is why it attracts trolls like r20/r25 (the same poster, by the way).

Hm.

You don’t agree with me. Fine that is normally what makes a forum great people with different views. I may consider you a not all that bright progressive the type that will help lead the Dems to defeat this year but I don’t consider you a troll.

Be smarter. Try to sound brighter. Calling everyone you disagree with a troll or a Russian makes you sound really stupid.

Do you disagree with this——on DL there have been dozens maybe 100s of comments calling for someone to kill Trump recently? If so try and discuss intelligently if you can.

r29 Violence is seen as permissible as long as it is enacted against someone who is seen as evil or morally bankrupt. That is the premise of the fallacious argument made by people who think this way. What they don't seem to understand is that this exact mantra can, and has, historically been used to subjugate and/or wipe out entire demographics by groups who thought themselves to be morally sound and doing "God's work."

For example...

@r20, "The fact that a liberal forum like DL has been over run with constant pleas and requests for someone to kill Trump over the past 6 months."

You're being disingenuous. Did you also ever notice that those same pleas and requests generally follow some new Trump revelation like he raped a 13 year old or he said something like Nancy Pelosi's husband deserved to be attacked or he wants to destroy democracy and make himself dictator for life?

As a decent person who believes in the US you bet I want Trump permanently out of the picture... Again, both sides are NOT the same

MAGICALLY Project 25 has disappeared from the airwaves . . . .

And magically, Trump reappears after laying low for 12 days.

The dress rehearsals for this charade on Saturday must have taken their toll on the fat old prick.

@r32, It'll be back once Trump's booboo on his ear heals

R31 :-)

I am not complaining or defending that DL has been over run with calls for someone to kill DJT. It happens all the time here.

And no those calls for someone to kill trump are not all connected with some new bad trump act. That’s silly to suggest.

Hey you are making the argument as to why trump should be killed or why it’s OK to call for trumps killing. I am just pointing out how much that happens here.

Will the right use those calls for killing trump against the left? They would be idiots not to.

Thank God the assassination attempt wasn't at Biden. There would have been riots and destruction across the country.

R35, then perhaps you should take your highly sensitive-yet-also-painfully stupid self over to one of those MAGA websites, where their conversations and posts are much more to your highly refined tastes. I'm sure there are regular Algonquin Round Table worthy discussions going on over there to which you can contribute so much more bullshit.

@r35, "And no those calls for someone to kill trump are not all connected with some new bad trump act."

No, we have an accumulation of years of illegal/immoral acts without needing new, but he never fails to provide new dastardly deeds to keep the hate alive

"Hey you are making the argument as to why trump should be killed or why it’s OK to call for trumps killing."

Historically a lot of what he's done has been punishable by death. Trump meet the Rosenbergs

[quote] No both sides-ing this. None. Absolutely no possible way, and fuck off even trying.

What an arrogant little Hitler you are.

Mark Hamill is all over this:

R37

What gave you the impression I was upset about the constant DL calls for someone to kill Trump? I did not give a shit either way I understand tough guy internet talk.

I am pointing out that the right will use statements like that to boost trump and hammer Joe. And yes those calls for trumps death or killing were many and popular here on DL.

Disagree with that if you like.

^ Oh, shut up! You're nothing but a troll trying to stir shit up and then go running behind the curtain of decency and fair play. You hate us and the US and would like nothing better than to see us destroyed

Go fuck yourself

R42 i liked that line better when Palpatine used it

R36 is such an obvious troll. Really, Mary, you're too fucking funny.

Actually, I'm not R44. I've been on The DL for about two decades. I just state the truth as I see it.

And you're still a troll, R45, and from the way you type, a MAGAt. And definitely a Mary.

[quote] the truth as I see it

Exactly--as you see it. So your "truth" is the same "truth" as "Truth Social"--no truth at all.

"I just state the truth as I see it."

Code words for bullshit.

I've gotten used to being called names and being banned on The DL. I called the Biden Catastrophe months ago and got a lot of shit for it. I didn't vote for him in the NYS democratic primary because he has been clearly compromised for months and his presidency has been a complete failure. Keep calling me names. It doesn't matter. I've learned that I am usually correct and it is just a matter of time before I am proven correct.

[quote] I've learned that I am usually correct and it is just a matter of time before I am proven correct.

Do you know how ridiculous you sound, R49? Of course you don't.

R49 was for R46

With Love R45

Nah, it is both sides. All the conspiracy nonsense after the attack on Trump made that clear to me. I'm sorry you can't see that, OP. But I'm taking the advice of another DLer and just going to sit back and enjoy the clown show as it all crumbles because both sides are too far gone from reality for this country to fix itself.

@r52, I've had that troll blocked forever for good reason

This is what MAGA is really trying to hide.

Alex Jones and Ivan Raiklin talking about how great it would be for their movement if Trump were assassinated - because then they could install a better leader who was more closely aligned with their agenda. Someone like…Mike Flynn.

The MAGA party supports the proliferation of guns and assault weapons.

The MAGA party doesn’t support gun control legislation.

The MAGA party incites violence and insurrection.

Trump plays with fire and the extremist far right and is too dumb to know he is not universally loved.

But yet Sleepy Joe Biden and MSNBC are the ones responsible for the shooting. Sure.

Watch the clip. Don’t buy this bullshit that we’re the ones responsible because we hold Trump to account. EVERYBODY knows what a crook Trump is - it’s not some secret! He’s a convicted criminal!

Watch. There’s more of this too.

[quote] being banned on The DL.

Banned, R49? If you were banned you wouldn't be posting here. Sounds like you suffer from the same oppressiopn complex as Dump.

No both sides at all. All the extremism and threats come from MAGAts. And when violence occurs, as with Pelosi's husband, they laugh at it. Democrats don't.

r53 is for r50

Were Democrats behind January 6, R52?

r52, if it helps your mental health to think someone who disagrees with you is a troll, think whatever you want. You're only showing your own issues. I'm just a gay dude tired of everyone going crazy over everything. And after all the "it's staged" comments that I saw on here and everywhere on social media after the shooting, I realized that everyone is escaping into conspiracy land these days and real discussion is impossible. So, I will enjoy the lighter moments as it all falls down. But mostly dive into work and hobbies and grindr more. I can't take American politics seriously when no one else does.

And what do I see on cnn running off and on several times a hour throughout every hour, a large picture of fist raised definite and bloody Donald Trump. Millions of dollars in great publicity.

The progressives or others who that don’t understand how drastically this race has changed in the last 7 days need to pay better attention,

ok, r57, then disregard r59 if you weren't talking to me.

[quote] I realized that everyone is escaping into conspiracy land these days

No, R59, everyone is not. Your use of sweeping generalizations displays your vacuousness.

Self-proclaimed White Nationalist “groyper” Nick Fuentes just did a whole anti-Semitic rant on his show the other day about not voting for Trump because his 2nd administration would be “run by the Jews” just like the 1st administration was.

These extremist right wingers are not Trump’s friends. And they all want power and, as we know, they all want to incite violence.

Look at the NC Gubernatorial candidate, Mark Robinson, just days ago, calling for people - liberals - to be killed. He’ll be speaking at the RNC this week.

Kevin Roberts of The Heritage Foundation saying “…the Second American Revolution will be bloodless, if the left allows it to be.” WTF? These people have never been able to control their bloodlust.

Democrats just want healthcare and an affordable lifestyle. These people are the ones inciting violence - MAGA is a circular firing squad. They don’t need any encouragement from us.

The ban is for 24 hours, R55. Whenever I was banned it was always because I was critical, and honest, and told the truth about the Biden administration. I have never mentioned or incited violence. What does that say about what is really going on?

R49, your assessment of the Biden presidency is already completely wrong so time is not your friend.

R64

DL is just not a forum for disagreement. Because if you say things many here don’t like they will FF you. I assume they are younger. The kind of people who grew up on the Internet and have never had the experience of debating in person those who views are slightly or more than slightly different than yours,

DL is not a place where opposing views on anything are wanted, The easily triggered and overly sensitive are the ones that got you a time out.

R52, if you can point to where Democrats staged their own version of January 6, where Democrats were behind any plot along the lines of the MAGAt plot to kidnap and murder Gretchen Whitmer, where a Democrat broke into a house as a MAGAt did with Pelosi and attacked her husband with a hammer, even this latest assassination attempt by a registered Republican...if you can cite even one concrete action along those lines, I would allow you to say it's about both sides. It isn't, and you know it.

[quote] Because if you say things many here don’t like they will FF you. I assume they are younger.

I disagree because young people tend to loathe Biden.

I think they are Boomers who have been “radicalized” by the Internet just like Red MAGA is Boomers have been radicalized by the Internet.

I call them Metamucil Fascists.

All kinds FF and block for all kinds of reasons. There's hardly anything sinister about some queens on a gossip site taking offense--especially considering the number of trolls on DL.

R60 cont

And now CNN is one full hour of really good trump news. They keep running that bloody fist raised picture , they now have one person after another talking about being there. And at least one commenting on Trumps bravery and the cheers of USA USA USA USA as Trump raised his fist with the blood flowing..

This was in no way a plot. The trumps could have never invented anything this grand with this amount of good pro trump news and publicity. A game changer.

Flowed by attack dogs being quoted as to how it was all left progressive hate aimed at DJT that led to the attempted killing.

The polls are going to be real interesting. I expect to see a real gap coming.

R65, his support rate of the American people is like 30 percent. It is just not me that sees the truth.

r59 was intended to be posted in response to r53, not my own post at r52, so that was an error. But r53 has since clarified in r57 that r53 was not intended to be a reply to me in r52, but instead someone else at r50, so the convo doesn't matter at all. Jesus Christ, it's like the LSAT...

R65, he can't even talk!

The "truth." MARY.

R72, out down the booze and seek some professional help.

r75, I'm neither an alcoholic nor mentally ill. I was clarifying before someone made a big deal out of responding to the wrong person like they often do on here.

r68 which young people? the ones who he relieved of debt?

Oh what a great run of good news for Trump. Like something out of fiction.

A senile president his own party is trying to get rid of who cant manage t hold his own in a debate

An assassination attempt he survived with a bloody face a raised fist and the crowd chanting USA USA USA

And just now the classified doc case against trump in Florida has been thrown out

Followed by the VP announcement later this week

This is turning into a real shit show. The shit eaters here should be real happy.

Here’s the Nick Fuentes link.

I get it that issues cannot be handled with 'both sides' equally. But especially here on DL that argument is usually used to kill other opinions completely. Yes sometimes there are conflicting arguments. And often there is a 'Yes, but...' I find it intellectually lazy to assume that an issue has only one clear side and answer. That is usually not the case. When people are involved, it is not uncommon that both sides have good reasons for their opinions and not one of them is universally true. The challenge is to pick both arguments apart and see where they are correct and where they are not. And then you come to a third, more nuanced opinion.

[quote] And just now the classified doc case against trump in Florida has been thrown out

Completely unsurprising. The judge was always a complete Trump lackey, put in place by him.

[quote] Followed by the VP announcement later this week

Yes, as happens every presidential election.

Do you have a cognitive exam report in your hands on Biden? Because he sure doesn't seem senile. But whatever suits your "narrative," I guess.

@r78, and then the clowns, elephants and acrobats come into the tent and the crowd roars

We've already been to that circus once we're not falling for it again. No amount of PT Barnum bullshit will make up for a good government run by decent people. The clowns are clearly on the right and everyone knows it

I truly believe in this country. I think it has been an extraordinary human experiment. It has survived over 250 years, brought incredible things into existence for humanity, learned from mistakes and changed course, created great wealth for humanity. I don't understand the destructive tendency of the left/progressives.

[quote] I don't understand the destructive tendency of the left/progressives

The troll has socks.

R82 and world peace and no hunger for anyone?

You live in a world where your current president is showing significant signs of being senile (we can still be honest ) and the likely next President is Donald Trump) .

Right there is your reality

[quote] I don't understand the destructive tendency of the left/progressives.

Because you're a MAGAt who conventiently ignores January 6, R83?

TROLL.

R83 also conveniently ignores the MAGAt kidnap plot on Whitmer, the MAGAt hammer attack on Pelosi's husband... I guess those aren't "destructive tendencies."

Mysteriously, R83 has become silent when asked to respond on the truly destructive tendencies of the MAGA/right wing as stated above, particularly January 6. I wonder why...

R14 is Barr still supporting Trump?

"Both sides" is a simplistic way of approaching it, but causality is real. It's not a surprise to see steam being released in a hyper-competitive system, based on the increasing gap between capital owners and laborers on all political sides. Where do we think all that delicious greed goes eventually? There are people trying to save the world, especially on the left, but progress is a long, long road that not everyone is willing to lie down on. Most of us are just subconsciously having fewer kids (or no kids) in response to decay of the world, but some people are really, truly, honestly angry and an even smaller portion of them are already lost down rabbit holes of radicalization made possible by social media. Sad stuff.

"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"

R83:

[quote] I've gotten used to being called names and being banned on The DL.

And, yet, you keep coming back like a cockroach. Probably because you have no life, get off on being abused and humiliated and nobody who has ever had the misfortune of meeting you in real life would want to talk to you. So, all you have going for you is diddling your puny cocklet while being berated by strangers.

R83 seems to have disappeared when faced with solid arguments.

Hmmm...TROLL, I wonder?

[quote]It's not a surprise to see steam being released in a hyper-competitive system, based on the increasing gap between capital owners and laborers on all political sides.

What is and has always been surprising to me is that much of the "steam" from laborers is directed at the party that actually attempts to improve their fortunes.

@r85, I'd rather live under a bridge than to live like you Russian shit-eaters

Gurls! Gurls!

IGNORE THE TROLLS.

Almost as bad as the trolls are the ones bleating, "We're fucked!" "We'll be in concentration camps!" "There's no hope!" "It's all over!"

I'd like to kick these Mary Nostradamuses right in the cunt bone.

r96 on January 6, 2021, I was glued to DL. A couple of hysterical queens kept saying, "This is it! This is the end! The US as we know it just ended!!! MARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" They were EXHUASTING.

Right, R97? Some queens here just live for the drama of it all. It's like they want disaster to happen just to prove themselves right.

The actual reality of it all is a little different than the camps that they envision. I think they get off on their doomsday scenarios.

On 9/11 a lot of people thought that was the start of WWIII. People underestimate how really strong and resilient this country is. Especially to the potato and vodka trolls on DL who try and convince us to give up and live in a sewer like they do

So many hypocrites here and ON BOTH SIDES. If you’re acting like the other side you can’t chastise them, well you can but you’re a hypocrite.

No, R100, the hypocrites (trolls?) seem to solidly be on the "Dems are to blame too" category.

Thanks for the laugh, R72--that is truly one of the most convoluted posts I've seen from a queen in a long time.

[quote]Jesus Christ, it's like the LSAT...

Thanks for the laugh, r72!

Who's the threat? MAGA Republican voters.

Jack Black and Tenacious D bandmate Kyle Gass got themselves into hot water Sunday after making a joke about the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.

Performing onstage in Sydney, Australia, the comedy rock duo celebrated Gass' 64th birthday by having a cake with lit candles presented onstage. When Black encouraged his partner to make a wish, Gass joked, "Don't miss Trump next time," before blowing out the candles.

[quote] has become silent when asked to respond on the truly destructive tendencies of the MAGA/right wing

Wanna see truly destructive tendencies?

@r15, That's very funny...

Remember when Trump retweeted, "The only good Dem is a dead Dem"?

Pepperidge Farm remembers

There are very fine people on both sides.

R108 Snopes has this to say:

Claim: "On Aug. 15, 2017, then-President Donald Trump called neo-Nazis and white supremacists who attended the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, "very fine people.""

Rating: False

Context: In a news conference after the rally protesting the planned removal of a Confederate statue, Trump did say there were "very fine people on both sides," referring to the protesters and the counterprotesters. He said in the same statement he wasn't talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists, who he said should be "condemned totally."

Scenes from the' summer of love'

The shooter had "school shooting" written all over him.

r100 Again, it boils down to a perceived sense of being morally superior and the opposition being evil infidels. This is exactly how jihadists are created. One side thinks their opposition are fascist-worshiping Nazis, the other side thinks their opposition are devil-worshiping baby killers.

Are we at all surprised that violence is the outcome when people's minds have gone to these extremes? It's both fascinating and incredibly disturbing to witness. Even more so when you bring this to their attention and, depending on who you're talking to, you're labeled a fascist or a satanist.

I will say that depending on who you ask, I'm a devil-worshiping baby killing fascist-loving nazi.

To the people wanting Trump to be president. Do you not remember his four years? The fucking damage he did we are still dealing with. Aboriton bans, Religouos freedom laws allowing people to discriminate against gays. Do you not think for one second he will, if elected reverse gay marriage. They took down Roe V Wade you know they are dying to take down us next. He will raise the supreme court occupancy count and stack it so no non Maga judge can ever effect a ruling, then challenge the two term limit for presidents. He is going to destroy this nation and reshape it into a maga hell and all you people can do is go "but joe is senile." The fuck he is. Look what he accomplished these last four years. All you are doing is listening to the "Hillary is a criminal" story and seeing it every time you see Joe. Open your fucking eyes. The only choice is Biden. Biden or it's fuckng over..forever.And if you think I am being dramatic just fucking wait.

[quote]It's like they want disaster to happen just to prove themselves right.

r98 They have a need to always be right, even if being right would mean the suffering of millions. That doesn't matter. As long as they were right and "told you so."

That's a trait of a narcissist. I have a theory that the individuals who possess damn-near clinical levels of hatred for Trump are also narcissists and see themselves in him to some degree. And what they see is very ugly.

One side has class and the other are pigs...

This cunt with the dead husband is a pig

so, I take it your one of the pigs R115

“I support Trump. That’s who I’m voting for, but I don’t have ill will towards Biden,” she added. “He didn’t do anything bad to my husband. A 20-year-old despicable kid did.-Helen Comperatore

^ She wouldn't take the President's call of condolence. Trump didn't even acknowledge her husband... PIG!

Other quotes from around the net...

"Imagine declining a call from the guy who actually cares cause you still support the biggest piece of shit America’s seen in decades who could give a minutiae of a fuck"

"The President did not call to ask for her vote, he called to offer condolences about her husband, who was murdered because of extremism propagated daily by the candidate she supports. Don't allow politics control of your entire life."

"The stupidity and audacity of this twat waffle is painful to experience. She doesn't deserve a call from Trump. After all, Trump thinks her husband and men like him are losers because men who die protecting their families are losers. Trump likes winners... you know... guys who avoid the military, who don't get shot down, who don't get tortured."

"She and the pussy grabber have the manners of a rabid wolverine."

"Trump prefers retired firefighters who don’t get shot."

This woman has the rest of her life to live with her stupid. I hope it eats her alive

[quote]This woman has the rest of her life to live with her stupid. I hope it eats her alive

r118 I doubt she has the self-awareness to appreciate her own stupidity.

Excellent point r106

January 6.

Pelosi's husband attacked by a hammer.

Gretchen Whitmer kidnap plot.

MAGAts=domestic terrorism. The face of the GOP.

*Pelosi's husband attacked by a hammer-wielding MAGAt.

You wanna see destructrive tendencies, R106 and R120?

Your people in action, trying to kill the Democrats in Congress and hang Mike Pence.

More, R106/R120.

The MAGAt ring-wing GOP in action.

R106/R120...

R106/R120.

R106/R120.

R106/R120.

R106/R120.

R106/R120.

R106/R120: MAGAts involved i trying. to kidnap and murder Gretchen Whitmer.

R106/R120. Paul Pelosi hammer attack. The MAGAt was looking for Nancy.

R106/R120: Trump says mob was right to chant "Hang Mike Pence."

The MAGAt right-wing wanted to kill one of their own: destructrive tendencies?

Who is ever posting those great pictures of Jan6 👍

Good time for a reminder of who the party of violence is

Here's the gallows set up by the party of violence, the GOP, to prove the liar R106/R120 wrong.

Both sides BULLSHIT. Dems never did this against one in their own party OR the other party. Only Trump, MAGAts, and the GOP act like this. The real traitors.

The instigator of the party of violence didn't bother to call the MAGAt supporter who died behind him at the Klan rally. But Biden did.

BOTH SIDES BULLSHIT.

* call the MAGAt supporter's family

Don't forget Charlottesville where they ran their car over protestors.

I haven't, R138--and how right you are. Another killer from the Nazi right-wing MAGAt party of the GOP. It's so hard to keep up with all the murderous acts coming from the party of violence.

BOTH SIDES BULLSHIT.

That's also for R106/R120.

Just to remind you what the agenda of a lot of media seems to be:

They are really trying to depress the voter turnout outside the right wing/Republican base, get a business-friendly administration in place, and then, the same MSM (CNN, NYT, WP, The Atlantic, various Substacks, Axios...) will be serving us clickbait articles and op eds on why the voter turnout was low, how severely the country is polarized and opine on how to bridge that gap (moving towards the regressive center), etc.

I find Trump’s continued popularity very demoralizing. Have to be honest about that. He’s an objectively awful person and he tried to overthrow the government. People want more of that?

Excellent question, R144. Maybe ask R106, who completely refuses to acknowledge the dangers Dump represents while he's busy spreading the false equivalency of the "both sides" narrative--it's not an equivalency. It's an outright lie. The only threats to the republic and to democracy are being made by the right-wing/GOP/MAGAts. And everyone here knows it.

[quote]Good time for a reminder of who the party of violence is

Now and continually till November. The case for the prosecution is overwhelming. It all needs to be so ambient that those still capable of shame are shamed by any association with the GOP.

@r139, How come the "superior race" always looks one chromosome short of human? 😂

[quote]The instigator of the party of violence didn't bother to call the MAGAt supporter who died behind him at the Klan rally. But Biden did.

But the dead ex-firefighter's wife declined to accept Biden's call because she supports Trump. In case anyone was wondering how trashy and deplorable MAGAts are.

She should've performed a tribute to her husband: twirl around the stripper pole on the stage in Milwaukee.

Jill has stated her boundries.

R151 interesting logic in that headline. Nothing has changed but it’s getting worse.

But I agree after being shot Trump has this election to lose. He is in charge the only two things that can stop him is Trump himself and God.

The Dems continue to sink. Biden now behind in 14 truly important states.

I think Jack Black overreacted by cancelling the Tenacious D tour. (Even though the whole Tenacious D thing is nowhere near as funny as Jack Black thinks it is.)

Me too. I hate it

[quote] But I agree after being shot Trump has this election to lose.

Only if the Dems buckle and cater to him as some kind of would-be martyr and treat him with kid gloves--they have to attack attack attack! I don't believe his getting (nearly) shot matters one fuck to all those who hate him in every party they're in.

Enough with this bullshit thinking.

It's going to get worse and worse for Trump between now and the election.

R156

Another dem with a positive message and an actual plan.

FUCK ALL OF YOU.

Fuck Judy Collins

IT WAS MY HIT!

R157 Allan Licthman has a positive message with his White House prediction model - where the "keys" favor Biden. The plan is to fall in line and support Biden. Remember to vote the Dem down-ballot, volunteer if possible, and donate what you can. And tune out the chicken-little hand-wringing.

Apparently not everyone got the memo R161

[Quote] But the dead ex-firefighter's wife declined to accept Biden's call because she supports Trump. In case anyone was wondering how trashy and deplorable MAGAts are.

R148 Helen Comperatore did not condemn nor blame the left or Democrats. She blames the despicable shooter.

“I support Trump. That’s who I’m voting for, but I don’t have ill will towards Biden,” she added. “He didn’t do anything bad to my husband. A 20-year-old despicable kid did.”

Agree completely, OP.

R136 Trump has called her

I just rewatched Ken Burns outstanding documentary on The Roosevelts. Every democrat should watch it immediately—especially those in leadership. Enough of playing defense and crying that we can’t win. Bullshit! Both Teddy and FDR demonstrated unfailing optimism—in FDR’s case during unbelievably grim circumstances.

We’re smarter than MAGA. We’ve got much more talent. And we’re sane. Let’s shake things the fuck up. Put in a new candidate. Rally behind him/her. Pump some life and hope into this campaign and beat those motherfuckers.

I’d say a recent widow her husband just killed by a shooter she should take only the calls she wants to take. Fuck if she should be required to take any other. It’s about her not others. Fuck those that don’t like that.

These potus calls tend to be done for political or PR reasons most of the time anyway.

The widow's husband died doing what he loved: Being a clueless Trump supporter.

[Quote] The plan is to fall in line and support Biden. Remember to vote the Dem down-ballot, volunteer if possible, and donate what you can. And tune out the chicken-little hand-wringing.

Seems the plan isn't working

@r163, That doesn't excuse her rude, boorish behavior to the President who took time out to offer her condolences, when pig-boy Trump couldn't be bothered

[quote]doesn't excuse her rude, boorish behavior to the President who took time out to offer her condolences

Oh please. Time out from his busy nap?

He needs to GO for Democratic candidates to win this election.

R170 do try and keep up.

After he'd heard Biden had already tried to call her, Dump then called her--on Tuesday.

@r171, No, Biden was busy golfing and Tweeting like any good president should. Stop being disingenuous, it makes you look stupid

@r172, You know damn well Trump only called her because of the push-back. As far as Trump is concerned the guy is a loser for not dodging the bullet like he did

R174 How do you feel about the ineptitude of the SS and the local police? Attendees had to point out the shooter to the local police and the SS. Had they done their job Comperatore would still be alive.

-The widow of the slain victim in Saturday’s shooting in Pennsylvania spoke with former President Donald J. Trump on Tuesday, she said in a social media post.

“He was very kind and said he would continue to call me in the days and weeks ahead,” Helen Comperatore wrote, adding that she had told the former president that her husband, Corey Comperatore, “left this world a hero, and God welcomed him in.”

If only Jimmy Carter wasn't attacked by that giant rabbit. That's who I blame.

[quote]No, Biden was busy golfing and Tweeting like any good president should. Stop being disingenuous, it makes you look stupid

Umm, do you want to try that again?

Will the director of the SS Kemberly Cheatle reach out to Helen Comperatore?

This was not Bidens fault ( unless she-is incompetent ) but it was his head of the SS that he appointed and she has not shown well since the shooting.

And we also find out that Iran had a hit out on Biden. And those of us that watch the Diplomat understand why Iran had that hit out.

Sorry I meant Iran had a hit out on trump not Biden.

R179, you should go to the emergency room right away, because I think you're having a stroke.

R181 I remember you a few weeks ago you called me a moron for being worried that biden “might possibly” not do well in the debate.

I remember how sure you were I was overly worried or just wrong. How’d that work out for you?

R179 is Joe Biden

[quote]R179/R182, I don't know how you THINK you've identified me, but that was NOT me who called you a moron for being worried that Biden might not do well in the debate. I don't even remember reading that post.

R184 of course it was you , you were sure biden was going to do well in the debate. I remember you quite well.

@r177, "Umm, do you want to try that again? "

Not really, what part went over your head? I'll type slower to help you out

Thank you for perpetuating the stereo-type of single digit IQs of your people

R185 and R186 are either the same insane person or two different insane people -- I'm not going to bother to figure out which.

R187 R186 R185

All 3 bat shit crazy. And all 3 at least 4 different people.

@r187 You're not smart enough to figure it out and r188 is doing her reenactment of "Sybil" this evening

I'm not getting emotionally involved in this election.....I am going to hope for the best and I will deal with the outcome by making my small world the best it can be.

Hillary did a number on me and I need to protect my mental health.

Go directly to hell, R190. Do not pass "Go," do not collect $200.