Courtney Love is SIXTY!

The gods should have taken her instead of Kurt, sorry not sorry.

Happy Birfday!

Her personality flaws are numerous, and I don’t care. I love her. Hole is one of my favorite bands of all time. I enjoy everything they did, but I especially love the macabre fury of their first album. She is feral and terrifying on that record, the guitars sound like chainsaws for most of it, and the lyrics are haunting and utterly deranged. It’s a caustic, frightening, profoundly sad album. I think it’s possibly the most stripped-back view she’s given us into her psyche ever, which is saying something because she’s always pretty raw. I don’t know. I have just always sensed a profound pain in her that made sense to me despite the fact that I’m not a woman and can’t directly relate to a lot of the things she was talking about in her songs. Maybe that alone is a testament to the music.

She paid Alan Wrench and Il Duce 50,000 to kill Kurt before he cut her out of his estate and dumped her. Il Duce was shoved in front of a train as part of the cover up. Ask Fat Mike.

Fat Mike, are you on here? Weigh in, please.

Even if she did have him killed, she will never be punished. She has gotten away with it. You can’t do anything about it. She told us from the start just how this would end. He’s forever 27 and she’s fucking 60.

R6 yeah, everyone else involved is long dead

It’s giving a incest survivor who loves alpha men, in a Stockholm Syndrome kinda way, and takes out all her bullshit on beta males vibe.

So, she was 3 yrs older than Kirk?

AI gays, please summon an image of Courtney Love in a 1960s Star Trek minidress uniform on the bridge screaming at Scotty.

If you told me in 1995 that Madonna would look worse than Courtney in 2024, I would have laughed.

more nose jobs than Michael Jackson

60 talent free years. Congrats.

Leave it to america to blame a woman for a drug addicted numbnuts for offing himself. Of course it must be a woman's fault for he was such a genius.

Is she still presenting Hole?

R3 Yes! I love her so much, America's Sweetheart is great too. I listen to "Nobody's Daughter" in my car all the time. Kurt was a junkie who couldn't handle being famous, he killed himself. And Hole's albums are better than any Nirvana album.

So you think that you could save him And we know that someone died Oh, an unkindness of ravens And we know that Mary lied And through villages of ether Oh, my crucifixion comes

I will never understand how this obnoxious mental case has managed to stay more or less relevant for 30 years, when she has no talent whatsoever, is uglier than sin even after plastic surgery and is universally detested by almost everyone who's ever had the misfortune of dealing with her. It just goes to show how nastiness, shameless opportunism and the willingness to do anything and anyone to become famous, can take any sack of shit very far.

Her music is awesome, that's how.

I can't stand Courtney but calling her untalented seems like a stretch.

She sure wasn't on my list to make it to 40.....So 60 is crazy

Oh yes, R189. She is SO talented! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

She looks pretty good considering all the drugs and hard living and abuse she put her body through. Way better looking than Madonna.

I wonder how Frances Bean is doing. How much does she have with her mom, anyone know?

*contact

C’mon gays, you know you want to watch it again.

Ha, I forgot about that R25. Let's see Madonna get all indignant now, if she could move her weird face.

How old is her face?

She is an intelligent, fascinating person. I don't know that I'd ever want to know her on a close and/or regular personal level (the chaos would be a lot to handle), but I respect her for the music she put forth in the pop culture canon. Even people who loathe her admit the music was good—their way out of giving her any due, though, is to simply say she didn't create any of it. I also appreciate her for owning her persona as an enfant terrible. We need those kind of people in the pop culture zeitgeist otherwise things get stagnant and too sanitized.

I hope she gets the most birthday cake!

Murderess!

R28 Well put. I love her music, I think she's gorgeous, and I would never want to meet her because I'm sure she's an insufferable bitch.

R29 Someday you will ache like she aches.

I'm certain she's mad as a hatter, but both times I met her she was very nice, and totally non-snobby!

On what basis would she be snobby? She's a Washington state hillbilly.

R33 Kurt maybe qualified as “Washington state hillbilly” to some, but Courtney is a cultured person who came from pretty well-to-do people (at least her mom) and, for a variety of reasons, veered into the gutter life. Her mother is a wealthy hippie therapist, and almost all of Courtney’s siblings got premium educations at elite schools. She is the black sheep of that family for certain, but she’s certainly not an uncultured hillbilly. She also isn’t from Washington.

I loved Melissa Auf der Maur's self titled album.

She’s a grifter and ugly as shit after hundreds of plastic surgeries. The good Hole albums (1st two) were written and produced by Kurt. She’s a no talent trash heap.

Pretty on the Inside was released before she and Kurt started dating R36, and it was produced by Don Fleming and Kim Gordon. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Whatever she still stinks.

Celebrity Skin is way better than the first two albums, and it was Billy Corgan who helped make it so. Billy is much more talented than Kurt.

[quote]If you told me in 1995 that Madonna would look worse than Courtney in 2024, I would have laughed.

Nope.

[quote]Way better looking than Madonna.

Nope.

She has talent but an outsized opinion of herself to go along with it. I’m sure she’s intelligent but she has always reminded me of someone who thinks she’s smarter than everyone around he because she’s read some Proust and a bit of philosophy.

Really? She doesn't look a day over sixty-nine.

As a vivid lyricist, Love was at least on-par with Cobain. Maybe Courtney was above-par...

Also, Love was a trained writer — attended Trinity — and comes from an established literary heritage (Paula Fox).

And she's Hollywood royalty: Courtney worked in the wardrobe department on Mommie Dearest.

[quote] The gods should have taken her instead of Kurt, sorry not sorry.

Sometimes I wonder how things would have turned out if Kurt lived and she didn't. He would have had to raise their daughter all by himself. Would he have beaten his drug addiction? Would he have left Nirvana and went solo? Remarried? We will never know, but I guess everything happens for a reason. Apparently, Courtney and Francis Bean are on good terms these days. Their relationship has been up and down over the years.

^Oh dear Frances Bean

I don’t know if I’ve ever heard her music but I love her in The People v. Larry Flynt.

Force of nature, that girl.

Happy birthday, Lovie!

This sort of thing happens unless you die first, OP.

R44, speaking as an addict myself, it’s highly unlikely he would’ve found sobriety because the drugs were very much part of his persona, ego, sexuality, psyche and reason for living. I’ve met plenty of “real deal” addicts like this that talk a good talk when they get sober, but are thinking about using the entire time. It colors their behavior in early sobriety and makes living almost insufferable, especially for family and friends around them.

The hardest things to accept in recovery are that you discover people don't like the sober version of you, and what kept you sober initially suddenly stops working the farther into sobriety you go. You don’t keep the same crowd of support you came in with either because so many of your “littermates” willrelapse.

You are not special because you get sober. This newfound shininess wears off and reveals the true person underneath, especially if you are not a nice person. Hard drugs taken over years or decades, notably heroin and meth permanently change and rearrange the neuron endings, pleasure center and reward system in your brain, making it almost impossible to find happiness.

I have met a LOT of unhappy old timer addicts and alcoholics the 14 years I’ve been sober.

I'm overwhelmed and undersexed baby, what did you expect? I'm overwrought and so disgraced I'm too ashamed to show my face

Evil cunt

I’ve seen her perform three times in small venues and she’s the real deal. She embodies her music which is one reason she’s good to watch. Her music is harsh and nihilistic as is her face.

[quote] almost all of Courtney’s siblings got premium educations at elite schools. She is the black sheep of that family for certain, but she’s certainly not an uncultured hillbilly

Too bad none of that was passed down to Frances Bean. The girl is a moron. She allowed some ex to steal Kurt's one of a kind guitar and some other priceless heirlooms that the ex won't give back. She was blinded by the dick which was never her mother's problem. She also didn't inherit her mother's street smarts.

r51 I've seen her numerous times as well and she is amazing on stage. Ridiculously charismatic.

It’s the Cobain jeans r52

R54 That makes no sense since he was smart. Smarter than Courtney

The girl grew up around two junkies and their extended circle of users. Can you blame her?

She looks every minute of 75. Stop trying to push her off here. She’s not fondly remembered or wanted.

R39 No, he isn't. If he was SP wouldn't suck so much. He might be technically more skilled than Kurt but he doesn't have 1/10 of artistic talent Kurt had. Also, that third Holes album was very pop and Hollywood, so it makes sense that Billy helped making it. The second Hole album, that Kurt supposedly helped writing, is actually good.

Billy Corgan is an irrelevant Trumper.

[quote]She told us from the start just how this would end.

She went on and took everything.

Unpopular opinion: Hole at its best was better than Nirvana at its best. Live Through This is better than Nevermind.

R60 Nirvana wasn't best at Nevermind

It doesn't matter. Bleach? Incesticide?

Live Through This is still better.

Billy is a far better guitar player than Kurt ever was. I prefer Kurt/Nirvana as an artist, but there is no denying that Billy is talented.

I also prefer Hole to Nirvana. Courtney as a singer/songwriter and personality in general brings such an extreme dichotomy of masculine power and feminine rage that has always resonated with me as a gay man. She taps into both of energies and balances them beautifully in her songs. There is a rough edge to everything she does, but there is also a softness (and profound sadness) at the core if you pay close attention.

I wonder what it's like to see a cosmeticly surgerized face and different hair color in the mirror. Is it schizophrenic? Do you forget who you really are?

Agree r60

E621 Neither of those either. In Utero is million times better than Live through this. It's one if the best rock albums ever made

R63 Far better in what way? I prefer Kurt's guitar playing at his worst over Billy at his best. It's just boring guitar wankery. Just because someone is technically better doesn't mean they make better music. There are millions of metal guitarists that are leagues above Billy technically, but they make the most boring music imaginable. With zero soul

Love her!

Hole is way better than Nirvana, fact.

Kurt couldn't write or sing like Courtney, the rawness and agony she can do is really incomparable.

"Are you there when I'm all alone Do you even know why I am suffering Are you down to your bones?"

R69

"Kurt couldn't write or sing like Courtney"

That's because he was a far superior lyricist and vocalist..

Kurt had several beautiful gifts, but he was also a person with incredibly thin skin and a nervous nellie beyond compare. Courtney was more of a survivor and probably was a bit the "top" in her relationship with Kurt.....all complicated by both of them being smacked out of their minds most of the time.

Nirvana was amazing and I liked Hole as well. Not everything is a fucking contest/comparison.

And a murderer.

Yes R71, he was way too fragile, and Courtney never was. "Almost Golden" is such a great song about him, and one line, "hang on to me, baby, hold hold on tight, and we'll just see which one of us gets out alive..."

My oh my, baby you were almost golden..

R14 and r15 win so far. Anyone remember when she was on Empire. That don’t make me over song used to be my shit.

Kurt was overrated

Dear God, R66, I hadn’t even considered that you might be referring to In Utero, thats how shitty it is.

How many lip lines does shit woman have?

She's fun

R71 agreed.

Is she more hated than Yoko Ono?

R76 Fuck, you have no taste.

[quote]The good Hole albums (1st two) were written and produced by Kurt.

How dare you, Sir!

[quote]I wonder what it's like to see a cosmeticly surgerized face and different hair color in the mirror. Is it schizophrenic? Do you forget who you really are?

That is who they are. They're the people who confuse outer appearances with an actual personality, or else are the people who appreciate that they're not as ugly any more.

Courtney will always be an ugly groupie till the day she dies.