BBC doing epic about Battle of Hastings (1066) with diverse casting

It's the progressive agenda of rewriting history. Creating a new invented past that reflects current racial obsessions.

Once upon a time, a strong Nonbinary Woman of Color thought, why can't I be King of England, or Queen, or Both?

In short, there's simply not

A more congenial spot

For happily-ever-aftering than here

In Wokealot!

Is the world going to stop turning if there's an historically accurate all-white cast in a period piece? This is ridiculous. There are hundreds of shows to choose from, what's wrong with having an all-white cast when historically it's true that all the players were white.

R4 We must create a new past, a past where diversity, equity and inclusion was the reality. A new past for POC.

They should remake Roots with a diverse cast of characters.

R6. Jessica Chastain IS Kizzy!

I hated historical movies decades ago when the characters had blown-dry 70s or 80s hairstyles or when everyone wore new, spotlessly clean and pressed costumes. Since then, Hollywood has made an effort to make the characters more plausible looking. The diverse casting makes such movies no longer historical pictures, but rather fantasies based in alternate universes.

No darkies in the period pieces, please

It just takes you right out of the story.

I agree with everything r8 said. Another pet peeve of mine is contemporary English in historical pieces, esp. slang.

And you talk about Republicans rewriting history...............

In the US, all of this diverse casting will end when Trump is elected.

[Quote] And you talk about Republicans rewriting history...............

This is a fucking tv show.

When Republicans re-write history, women lose their bodily autonomy, or states lose the ability to control who can get a gun….

It makes the past diverse so all the bad stuff magically is gone. History is now science fiction.

PASS!

No way do I want to watch this bullshit.

I'd just as soon watch an "epic" about African warring tribes in the Congo, starring an all-Swedish and Norwegian cast.

Does that sound ridiculous to you?

Exactly.

This is equally ridiculous.

Historical films are always fiction and are always about the era in which they are filmed.

There is a weird contradiction though - the past is horrible, racist, misogynist homophobic (mostly true) - see any number of projects; but the past is sometimes a multi-cultural paradise, like now but better (yet the men are still men and no-one is gay without significant historical evidence - and not always then). It doesn't matter in fantasy worlds, but supposed actual history creates a strange distancing effect and it becomes just another fantasy series

I've seen it described as 'an agenda-driven equality cast.'

Sounds about right.

It's the BBC- that's what they do.

Eustace II, Count of Boulogne

Well, there were Africans living in Roman Britain due to the scale of the Roman Empire and the commercial exchanges within. One could imagine there were still Africans there in the 11th century. Unlikely, but possible.

It’s not more ridiculous than the Trojan warriors with the Scottish accents.

Who will play Pippin?

Who will play Ben Vereen??

Is this any worse than Charlton Heston and Yvonne de Carlo playing Jews and Anne Baxter and Vincent Price playing Egyptians?

They made Edward the Confessor "Eddi the Fabulous."

I've never seen an Inuit-Ainu drag queen before.

SNL mocked Frozen 2 for inexplicably having a black character, even though it’s a fictional story. However, it’s understood to be located somewhere that in the real world would be Norway. The mocking was due it not be explained. If you add a glaringly incongruent element to a story, the audience wants an explanation.

[quote]When announced in 2023, CBS Studios executive Lindsey Martin said the scripts would offer “a bold and fresh take on a story that has endured for nearly 1,000 years."

Figures it's a white woman pushing this.

They tend to be the wokest of the woke.

That's why I'm suspicious of modern female "historians," because many of them have drunk the woke Kool-Aid and do everything they can to rewrite history and exaggerate the contributions of women/POC.

Thus, the next wave of historical analysis and literature is being tainted by an aggressively woke cultural bias.

Finally, the roles of William & Harold will be portrayed by disabled, trans womyn of color. About time.

[quote] Finally, the roles of William & Harold will be portrayed by disabled, trans womyn of color.

Even in the Panderverse, it doesn’t make sense. However, it is acceptable and even expected.

[quote] That's why I'm suspicious of modern female "historians," because many of them have drunk the woke Kool-Aid and do everything they can to rewrite history and exaggerate the contributions of women/POC.

How about those who say that ancient human remains shouldn’t be identified by sex since we don’t know how the people self-identified in life.

The idea that there would have been any identifiable continuity between Roman-era 'Africans' (whatever this term covers) and the 11th century 800 years later is ludicrous, R20.

This is no different than casting John Wayne as Ghengis Khan in the 1950s.

This sort of thing never works out but they keep on trying.

What's next? How about Braveheart? It would be worth it to enrage Mel Gibson.

[quote] This is no different than casting John Wayne as Ghengis Khan in the 1950s.

And how well did that work out

There is already a school of thought among black and "woke" scholars that the original Europeans were black and whites "stole" Europe -- languages, cultures, and all -- from black people and then exiled them to Africa. I assume all of these odd multi-culti efforts are designed to further the idea that POC were the original Anglo-Saxons, and the whites living in England are occupiers on stolen land.

What about MY outrage and right to presence????

I predict this will be a ratings BOMB.

As usual.

There is no audience for this.

[quote] There is no audience for this.

I disagree. Not saying people should but I'm sure they will load it with enough ladies tits and mens washboard abs that they will get them tuning in.

Like Poldak, Versailles, or Lady Chatterley’s Lover, BBC has found a niche with woke soft porn.

[quote] Is this any worse than Charlton Heston and Yvonne de Carlo playing Jews and Anne Baxter and Vincent Price playing Egyptians?

No, but could you name ANY bankable Egyptian or Semitic Jewish actor living in Hollywood in the early 1950s? What choice did they have?

Oh, if Derek Jarman did the same thing everyone would have eaten jt up.

R38, Hollywood had spent decades committed to the idea that anyone who seemed “ethnic” had to be a character actor. Obviously there were no bankable stars in Hollywood who would have looked believable in The Ten Commandments, but that was, in part, due to choices Hollywood itself had made.

[quote]Is this any worse than Charlton Heston and Yvonne de Carlo playing Jews and Anne Baxter and Vincent Price playing Egyptians?

So are you saying that having Charlton Heston and Yvonne de Carlo playing Jews and Anne Baxter and Vincent Price playing Egyptians is now acceptable? I don't understand your point.

If you feel it was the wrong thing to do back then, why do you think it's OK now?

Jeff Chandler (born Ira Gossel) was Jewish, looked Jewish and would have been a totally hot Moses.

More Jewish casting misses for The 10 Commandments: Kirk Douglas, Paul Newman, Tony Curtis, Lauren Bacall, Laurence Harvey, Lee Grant, Cornel Wilde, Hedy Lamarr, Peter Falk, Sylvia Sidney, Paulette Goddard, Martin Landau, Luise Rainer, Lee J. Cobb, Shelley Winters, Eli Wallach, Martin Balsam.

None of them would have been any less believable than Heston, De Carlo, John Derek, Debra Paget and Nina Foch as Jews.

Well, at least they hired Edward G. Robinson, but he played an Egyptian.

I hope it's got plenty of trans, nonbinary, and differently abled people too. If there is not at least one person in a wheelchair, it's obviously the work of a fascist. Disagree? You must be a fascist too.

Suzanne Pleshette could’ve taken the Yvonne De Carlo role. She was Jewish.

There's so much that's funny about "authenticity" and the Ten Commandments movie. For one thing, none of it can really be authentic because none of it actually happened.

But even more is what the hell we mean by "authenticity." Because if we mean, people who might have looked like Hebrew Slaves in Egypt in 1300 BC, it would make more sense to cast a lot of Arabs and Syrians and of course Egyptians rather than a lot of modern American Jews. But something tells me that wouldn't fly.

Charlton Heston was so fucking hot as Anglo-Saxon Moses.

[quote] When Republicans re-write history, women lose their bodily autonomy, or states lose the ability to control who can get a gun….

Republicans didn’t rewrite anything, dear.

Liberalism/Progressive has become a mental illness.

[quote] differently abled people too.

Well that would be the one realistic thing about an epic Battle of Hastings film. By the end of the battle there would be lots of people missing limbs.