Most Hollywood stars aren't that beautiful and it's their fame that makes them look more attractive

I always thought Rob Lowe was truly blessed in the looks department when he was young. Mother Nature was really good to him, and young Johnny Depp too

Lowe is still holding it together.

I hate the bitch but would his his perky ass in 3…2…1.

Agree with Johnny Depp. He was beautiful. Tom Cruise was attractive too. And Ryan Philippe. Ryan is still gorgeous to me.

I always thought Brad Pitt was hot. Gerard Butler when he was younger, although I wouldn't kick him out of bed now.

I never understood the appeal of George Clooney.

I agree about George Clooney. He always gave me “your friend’s creepy dad who lingers too long during sleepovers”’vibes

Tom Welling was stunning in person when he was doing Smallville. Henry Cavill is perfect, but it's like looking at a mannequin. Jason Momoa post Baywatch, pre Lisa Bonet was unbelievably hot.

I don’t whether it’s because the woke progressives currently running Hollywood are anti-beauty or because ordinary people who watch movies today are threatened by good looking actors.

I totally agree OP. Whether on the street or in your local Target and I guarantee you will find at least 2-3 guys who are way better looking than Timothee Chalamet, Paul Mescal, Glen Powell, and the like.

Most, but not all of us. Some of us are truly that beautiful.

I met Jon Bon Jovi in early 1985 before they really hit it big. He was really gorgeous, his face was so handsome and even with the wild hair he was a stunner. I could weep seeing him now.

Rick Springfield, and he still looks good for 70+

If you live in a flyover state, celebs look like golden gods. In a major city in California, I see people as or more attractive than celebrities every time I leave the house. There’s a girl working at a burger place a few blocks away who might as well be Helen of Troy.

[quote] it's their fame that makes them look more attractive

Or rather it's their tons of professionally applied makeup that does it. And many times even that only helps on camera. In real life many of them look like circus clowns if they go out in their stage makeup. The camera hides sins the makeup can't.

Joan Collins is a prime example. I've seen her, close up, when she's all dolled up. Trust me, it's frightening. It literally makes you think of a casketed corpse the mortician had to do massive amounts of work on to hide some horrible defects.

Another thing I'll say. The men usually look far better in public than the women. At least the ones who haven't resorted to destroying their faces with plastic surgery.

You sound old and stilted, R12. You are so clueless that you are so clueless.

I’ve seen Charlize Theron in person, and she has a really magnetic quality about her. It’s her looks, her height, the way she moves - everything.

I'd say charisma makes people look beautiful, not their looks. There are some really pretty bodies and faces out there but emoting no personality (think low rent actors or online 'content creators'). They can be as ribbed or voluptuous all they want. But if they don't have a personality, they do nothing for me. Benedict Cumberbatch is not really that pretty. But he has charisma for five and lots of people find him sexy. Same with Oscar Isaac or Paul Mescal.

r16, Charlize used to go to my vet, and from behind, I knew she was someone, but without makeup, all her features disappear because her lashes and brows are fair. Sharon Stone is another with a lot of charisma.

I've also seen Zendaya and Kaia Gerber with and without makeup. Zendaya is cute, but she's surprisingly tall, and Kaia is beautiful. They both have similar bodies.

I remember seeing Ben Chaplin (from "The Truth about Cats and Dogs") in Los Angeles once, and he was small and forgettable in real life, even though he was then a leading man.

But I disagree with the idea that everyone in Los Angeles is gorgeous and that you regularly see people working at burger joints who are more beautiful than movie stars. On the whole people are more body-conscious in LA than elsewhere and in better shape, and that really does help people's looks. But that's as far as I'd go.

Actors are not models. Models are cookie cutter gorgeous. Like one poster said above, actors shouldn't intimidate the audience too much. It's the same reason models aren't pop stars. If a character in a movie is specifically meant to be Gorgeous then it's the only reason to go model hot. I do fancy Ryan Reynolds a lot and I've been told I look like captain America himself, buy as I don't fancy him, and never fancied myself, that's an odd compliment. Most stars are short too.

My bf saw Zendaya years ago standing outside his office building when she was still a relative no-name and he knew immediately she was going to be big because he said she has absolutely insane proportions, body-wise - like an elongated mannequin with the longest freakish limbs

It's more important for actors to have something interesting about them, aesthetically speaking - we want to find them fascinating in ways being model pretty don't require. Also acting is an actual talent, and people like yes Timothee and Jeremy Allen White have actual talent. And talent is sexy.

Timmy is an extraordinary beauty AND has the allure of movie stardom on top

[quote]If you live in a flyover state, celebs look like golden gods. In a major city in California, I see people as or more attractive than celebrities every time I leave the house. There’s a girl working at a burger place a few blocks away who might as well be Helen of Troy.

Have you ever been to Middle America?

It's teeming with gorgeous, "All-American" types!

In fact, LA and NY modeling agencies used to scout the Midwest all the time -- until fairly recently when they went 'woke' and began hating conservatives and whites, particularly blondes.

Some of the most gorgeous actors came from the Midwest -- Marlon Brando (Nebraska), Paul Newman (Ohio), James Dean (Indiana), Rock Hudson (Illinois), Brad Pitt (Missouri), Robert Wagner (Michigan),

In fact, California received a lot of their hotties in the 1930s, when many Midwesterners relocated to "the promised land" due to the Great Depression hitting the hardest there, the Dust Bowl destroying farms, and the rampant Public Enemy crime wave that gave rise to the FBI (John Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde, Baby Face Nelson, Pretty Boy Floyd, etc.).

It's a myth, perpetrated by East/West Coast liberals, that "Flyoverland" is full of inbred fatsos, which they used to get away with until the advent of the Internet/social media.

In fact, I would say that the Northeast, including New York, has the homeliest people in the country.

[quote]I don’t whether it’s because the woke progressives currently running Hollywood are anti-beauty or because ordinary people who watch movies today are threatened by good looking actors.

It's the former.

On social media, it's the traditionally attractive people who get the most hits.

The 'woke' powers that be are certainly not giving the people what they want.

Otherwise, the box-office would not be faltering.

I think Hollywood's could be salvaged if they went back to casting pretty actors and giving us uplifting movies full of wonder and hope and gorgeous cinematography/score -- the classic Hollywood formula.

But the wokes are iconoclasts and anti-capitalists who care more about pushing their leftists agenda than creating art or making profits.

Thus, until they're deposed, I don't think we'll see that again.

R26, I think that it has nothing to do with 'wokeism' and a everything to do with the fact that many actors and celebrities nowadays are nepo-babies or rich kids, who would never be able to compete with truly gorgeous and talented people (and yes, there are plenty of those in the world) if the game were not rigged in their favour. Preventing the genuinely beautiful and/or talented to rise to celebrity status means that they won't be exposed for what they are: ugly and talentless products of privilege whose parents have bought fame for them.

And yes, the amount of truly gorgeous people in the media has become minimal in the last few years. Also, R25 is completely right about the Midwest.

I agree, R25. R12 annoyed me with his ill-informed coastal provincialism. I'm a native New Yorker and have never understood this arrogance and gross stupidity. I lived in the midwest for a few years for school and loved it, and there were plenty of beautiful people, lots of interesting and fun people too.

- R15

I wasn't being that serious but it's nice to hear from the Cleveland tourism board.

Of course there are beautiful people everywhere but middle America is overwhelmingly fat.

R7 is a conservative looking to complain about "wokeness"

You think Hollywood is spending millions on plastic surgery because they don't care about beauty? La😄 😁

Anyone who complains about wokeness is a retard

Jeremy Allen White is someone that fame has made more attractive. If he worked a regular job he would have a problem getting laid.

Lived in LA for 30+ years. Saw most of them up close. The only one that stands out was this one . Chatted him up at baggage claim. Perhaps because it was a red eye, tired and he found my bag. Troppo bello.

Cliche but true

Difference between being beautiful and being photogenic.

Reminds me of a junior league hockey game I went to in Iowa once.

I have never seen so many gorgeous people in one crowd in my whole life. Gave meaning to “corn-fed beauty” that I’d never before considered it might really have.

r34 he looks familiar but his name escapes me. Do tell!

Don Diamond, R37. He’s a soap opera star.

Diamond not Diamond.

I keep fucking that up. His last name is Diamont.

R27 nails it the thousand times.

R20 is also totally correct. The first time I went to Los Angeles I didn’t think anyone was that good looking. They’re just body obsessed - constant workouts and obsessive healthy eating. The first thing most of the transplants to LA do is get a nose job.

^^ya tell em toots

[quote] actors shouldn't intimidate the audience too much. It's the same reason models aren't pop stars

And why pop stars aren't real actors.

Casting pretty actors? That’s the problem, most Hollywood productions only cast pretty actors. Shiny perfect hair and blinding white teeth. Bland and boring.

Gerard Butler has palsy face that rivals Drew Barrymore, plus he's a huge asshole. Timothy Chalamet's head looks like an inverted triangle. Julia Roberts now looks like a scrawny witch.

R 15 And You must be young and dumb. Are you starstruck or are you just sight impaired yourself.

Not many superstars have emerged the last 20+ years, and the ones who have are actually gorgeous (Angelina Jolie, Margot Robbie). Leo D is a huge star because Gen X and Millenial women can’t let go of what he looked like in Titanic and straight guys in those groups worship his dating habits,

R44

I'm not sure what you're saying, OP? You think *Tom Cruise* was one of the few incredible beauty among Hollywood film stars? What about Sharon Tate? Elizabeth Taylor? Robert Redford, Paul Newman, young-to-middle-age William Holden? Montgomery Clift, Brad Pitt...?

R36 You probably have a thing for Caucasians.

Glen Powell. I think he's ugly, with his beady eyes too close together, hawk nose, thin lips, and chipmunk cheeks, but Hollywood is trying to pass him off as the newest sex symbol.

Anyone here seen him in person that can refute my claim?

I feel like Glen Powell is the budget James Norton R51. Glen Powell WISHES he was James Norton.

flyover state,

I hate to tell you idiot, there are many more beautiful people in flyoverstan than in your shitty California, those beautiful people you see are all fake and desperate. Your arrogance will hopefully hurt you and destroy you some day, cunt licker.

Two exceptions:

I waited on Keanu in the early 00s. He is so not my type, but I have never seen a more beautiful man in all my life. Everyone in that bar was in awe of his beauty. It had nothing to do with his fame. (He was also a sweetheart.)

A couple years earlier, I was in Westwood with a friend walking to a movie. A woman walked toward us and both of us stopped in our tracks. Quite literally. The woman was tall and simply stunning. One a ten million stunning. We just stopped and stared. As she passed us, we realized it was Charlize Theron (just right when she getting famous). Again, nothing to do with her fame.

But your larger point is valid!

Charisma can replace true beauty. There aren’t that many people in the world that I’ve seen or met in my lifetime whose charisma takes your breath away and you can’t take your eyes off of them or not be aware of their presence even if they are not typically gorgeous. I would imagine that many Hollywood stars have this quality in person.

If you're a chubby chaser r53

[quote]Young Johnny Depp (late 20s to early 30s) is the only celebrity I can think of who can't be outdone in terms of beauty. I've never seen anybody in real life come even close to him in the looks department. Tom Cruise is a close second, but everyone else is unimpressive.

Mary!

And oh, dear.

R51: I think it's bizarre that the industry decided he should be the next big thing based on his role in Top Gun Maverick. There was nothing memorable or special about his acting and anybody could've played that part.

Tom Cruise is an excellent example of someone whose charisma makes him seem handsomer than he actually is. Alkthough like Jeremy Allen White 9whom someone else mentioned), the great body made him better looking when he was young than he would be otherwise.

Sean Penn. Ugly as a homemade sin.

I remember years ago thinking Uma Thurman wasn't as gorgeous as she was hyped up to be, now compared to these average looking "beauties" today she looks good.

I never understood the fuss about Chris Pratt, he is so average white guy.

That movie out now with Zac Efron and Nicole Kidman, they both look worse after plastic surgery

R63 I started watching that movie and I couldn't finish it. Nicole's face seemed gargantuan and hard, and Zac's...I'm still in shock from watching The Iron Claw.

R53 beautiful on the inside

R53 I’m so pleased those anger management classes have been working out so well for you.

Is OP the same twat who was banging away on Twitter a few years ago about how Jennifer Connelly was a 7?

Channing Tatum with his big, squishy potato face. He looks like a primate.

[quote] Channing Tatum with his big, squishy potato face. He looks like a primate.

Well he is a primate unless you’re referring to an archbishop.

The first time I saw Mina Suvari up close I was stunned at how…uh…unique looking she is.

I actually did a double take and I think she saw me. Damn she sho is ugly. My first thought was “how is she an actress”.

R70 She definitely has a quirky look. My favorite is when she did Aaron Carter's dance party on SNL. Spot the fuck on.

R24 = Timmy

Charisma is what drives a true star.

Steve McQueen, Bette Davis, Joan Crawford, Humphrey Bogart, Rita Hayworth, Lauren Bacall, Barbara Stanwyck, Daniel Craig, Robert Downey Jr., Julia Roberts, Donald Sutherland, Barbara Streisand, Mia Farrow, Clark Gable, Diana Ross, Sigourney Weaver, Meryl Streep, Robert De Niro, Frank Sinatra, Kim Novak, Shirley MacLaine, Debra Winger, James Dean, even Cary Grant...were not classically beautiful and some of them were not even attractive. But they had an ability to hold the viewer's attention both on and off screen.

Beautiful people who have star-level charisma are few and far between, because - being beautiful - they don't need to develop that power. Other than Elizabeth Taylor and perhaps Audrey Hepburn, I can't think of too many. And Liz ran to fat and Audrey is an acquired taste.