AGATHA ALL ALONG trailer

I'd have probably been excited for this about 3 years ago but Wandavision was so long ago at this point it kind of feels like the time for it has passed. Also they've really got Joe Locke queening it up.

Watching now...

Very faithful to The Killing.

I take it all episodes will be plays on famous TV shows/series?

I don't want Wanda to be dead.

R2 While I don't think she will make an appearance (maybe only in flashbacks), she's definitely not dead. Not only is it preposterous to think she actually died, but Kevin Feige and Elizabeth Olsen themselves have clarified that it's unknown if she's dead and they purposely highlight the red explosion right before she "died." If she does make an appearance, it would most likely be a post credit tease of her return at the end of the show.

Disney didn't spend millions of dollars to get the rights to Marvel characters like the Scarlett Witch to then permanently "kill" them and not use them in movies

I don't like Hahn. She annoys me.

Hahn is hilarious in this. Her going back and forth with LuPone is funny.

Debra Jo Rupp is stealing the show, though.

"I'm sorry. Am I supposed to know the words to this song?"

Katherine Hahn is terrible in this. As someone who always enjoyed a lot of her previous work, this WandaVision stuff is such a disappointment. So much overacting. It’s all so obvious. Worst thing that ever happened to an otherwise terrific actress. I hope they’re paying her well.

Why can't she hear Teen's backstory?

I enjoyed the first two episodes a lot. Didn't really buy Hahn's Mare character – the yelling was obnoxious – but she's fabulous as Agatha. Her facial expressions when they were singing show she's not afraid of the way she looks on camera, which I love. She just commits 100%.

I was afraid each episode was going to be a different show like Wandavision, so I was relieved to see that wasn't the case and she "awoke" to herself relatively quickly.

Locke is enjoyable as well. His American accent is decent, although his "can" still sounds British.

Aubrey Plaza's witch outfit was all sorts of badass.

r8 She couldn't hear his name either. There's either a spell/hex on him or on her.

Teen's name and backstory will be revealed later as he will be a much bigger connected character in the MCU

Garbage.

Ugh.

he is WICCAN

I thought WandaVision was majorly overrated, so I'll be skipping this. It should have been released two years ago, anyway, when Agatha was a little more fresh in people's minds.

This one has little relation to Wandavision, which I didn't enjoy all that much either. It's a lot more fun, not as self-serious.

Has Patti shown up yet in the episodes?

Yes, she shows up in the second episode already, she's great.

Patti & Hahn are amazing

Ok start. I have no preconceptions with this as it’s not a Marvel story I know so I’m keen to see it develop.

Who do we think was the fifth name that Patti wrote down? Was it the teen? Is Debra Jo Rupp the right witch to represent ‘black heart’ considering Aubrey Plaza made a point of stating she has a black heart in an earlier scene?

r19 i don’t see DJR as an antagonist

If I were any witch out of this bunch, I would totally be the Green Witch, the kooky flora queen that I am. You can keep your flashy powers, I'll be right here making my rhododendrons the envy of the town with my magic green thumb, thank you very much.

Aubrey Plaza is the green witch.

Agatha is purple.

Wanda was scarlet.

Strange and quite possibly Emma Caulfield's character are yellow.

I thought Debra Jo Rupp was the green witch? Because she was shown gardening?

I don't think Debra Jo is a witch at all.

Aubrey already identified herself as green to Agatha, who responded with, "Just let me get my purple going..."

Debra Jo Rupp is a national icon

I love her character's gentle confusion. I hope she ends up being pivotal to the plot, to show that raw power isn't everything in life.

The actress did a good job with the character of Agatha but that was enough for me. I didn't start watching Wandavision because I am a hardcore Marvel fan - I found it well written and heartfelt. I never got drawn into the Marvel franchise, I got bored with it after Iron Man 2 and never started any of the Avengers films. I'm not a fan of witch stuff and I have zero desire to watch this series.

And yet, here you are r27 You really should find other ways to waste your life

elderfags are the worst self loathing folks here

80%

cope & seethe freaks

it’s a hit

I wasn’t sure what to expect, but I really enjoyed those first two episodes. I pretty much loathe Marvel movies, but some of the series have been pretty good. Moon Knight, She-Hulk, and Ms. Marvel were entertaining.

r32 no one except elderfags & far-right trolls hates the show

it is just gonna go up from here on

he & Kit might have fucked in Soho

spent an awful lot of time together

Please let's not turn this thread into yet another Kit/Locke fan thread, there are so many of those on DL already. I was put off from commenting on the second season of Heartstopper because there wasn't a single thread dedicated to just the show. I wouldn't like that to happen to the Agatha show as well because I love it and I want to discuss it with others as the episodes come out. Thank you.

r37 no one’s stopping you. go ahead

Don't be disingenuous, you know exactly what the threads for the second season of Heartstopper looked like thanks to Locke obsessives. I was just politely asking to not have a repeat of that here after seeing the wholly unrelated posts at r35 and r36, that's all.

Anyway, looking forward to the new episode today, feels like it's been weeks since the last one for some reason. Shame it wasn't dropped all at once.

The phrase “One of those boys from that one show!“ needs to be the title of a thread.

It’s the “Eppi-tomb” of Data Lounge television viewing statements.

Everyone will know who you’re discussing.

[quote]Shame it wasn't dropped all at once.

That's actually terrible for shows. They get discussed for a weekend and then the world moves on. Week to week allows it to really permeate the culture. Even Netflix has started walking away from doing everything all at once.

Did they really have to kill off the best character?

I'm guessing we'll be seeing a death each week.

Mephisto got a shout out.

Yes, we have the perfect number of leads to kill one off per week to have a solo Agatha 9th episode

r43 this week’s episode basically confirms he is Wiccan

They killed her off because she’s not a witch. Agatha refused to ask Aubrey Plaza’s character along as the green thumb witch even though her name was on the bit of paper from Patti’s character.

Id bet anything the Heartstopper kid is gonna be the Viz ScarWitch son come back.

I'm thinking they might be playing us and he's Agatha's child.

r46 he is definitely Wiccan

The comic's Wiccan has such a fucked up backstory that they may still incorporate some Agatha's son reincarnation aspects into Teen on the show, but agree once it's all sorted out, he'll be playing Wiccan going forward in the MCU

This is so entertaining! But why did they kill off Sharon, I thought all witches of the coven had to survive in order for this whole Witches' Road thing to work? So she wasn't a witch? Why was she brought along, then? Because her name appeared on that list? Maybe she'll be revived in the next episode.

I got mildly spoiled regarding Teen's possible identity while listening to the breakdown of the premiere on The Watch podcast. I don't mind though, I see they're going exactly into that direction pretty quickly and I like it. The way she said "NO!" when he was about to drink his wine was a dead giveaway.

Funko spoils it all....

Don't click if you don't want to know who Plaza and Locke are really playing....

doing well

it is a limited series so the number need not be too high anyway. just the reception to characters is important

excited for the next episode

guessing mostly everyone knows Aubrey’s character now

concept art for his character leaked looks dope

This feels like Teen is orchestrating the entire trip like a dungeon master.

I’m wondering what happens when four witches drink the blood of a demon.

r57 what are the chances he is Mephisto ?

for the sane gays who love Joe

new episode rocked

looks fantastic

I'm gonna be honest, the fact that 10 minutes of the show is credits is kind of a turnoff.

Yeah, why ARE the credits so long? Especially because it's apparently the cheapest Marvel show yet.

[quote]What also helps Marvel is that Agatha is the studio’s least expensive live-action series to date, significantly so. Marvel Television has recalibrated its shows and that may now be paying off.

r63 the practical effects are good

If they don't bring back Ms. Hart it will be a real shame.

This show is such a delight! I want so much more of this, even though I can clearly see it's all shot on a sound stage (hence the low costs). But I'm not bothered by that at all because the writing and the interactions between all these actors bring me such joy.

Was surprised by Plaza's revelation at the end, they'd been telegraphing his real identity for so long, it felt nice having the rug pulled underneath me. I wonder if she was telling the truth though, or just trying to protect Agatha.

I realised in this episode that the end credits are so long because there's no opening intro, so we get a twofer at the end.

r66 what Marvel needs to realise is that they need to spend more on writing. they are already doing a great job on casting

I find the structure of facing a new trial every episode to be too formulaic, and the trials themselves have been unimaginative. The cast is really saving this show so far.

stellar performance by Joe

Agatha seems less... Agatha like somehow.

Having it set on a sound stage is giving me Yellow Brick Road vibes. It’s great.

r72 she may be in mourning

It may be Marvel's cheapest project yet, but clearly they needed a huge old school set design, costume, effects crews to pull this off. Thus the long credits. Good to see many non-FX crew get jobs from this.

Agather All Allong

*Along, even

[quote]This is so entertaining! But why did they kill off Sharon, I thought all witches of the coven had to survive in order for this whole Witches' Road thing to work? So she wasn't a witch? Why was she brought along, then? Because her name appeared on that list? Maybe she'll be revived in the next episode.

The show said there are people who are "magical enough."

Sharon was "magical enough" as a "green witch" to help them open the road or it wouldn't have worked.

While she's been "replaced" for now I'm sure she'll be back somehow.

Agatha's thing is pretending like she doesn't care when she does actually care about others. She cares about "Teen." She also says she thought the work Jenn was doing was important so she never went after her. She did say to Sharon's corpse (when no one was listening), "I didn't think you had it in you." So she did care about her since she dragged her into this (or she knows something about her we don't.) She also wasn't wrong about Wanda in WandaVision.

Either way, I'm convinced Sharon will be back either as a wish someone makes at the end of the road or by some other means.

R76, you’re not allowed to be so wise regarding Agatha this soon into the adventure. For now, she’s a cunt just like us. Please note her coat fits deliciously.

r77 not everyone is as dumb as you. move on

I keep seeing Jen Barkley and April together

[quote]I wonder if she was telling the truth though, or just trying to protect Agatha.

If Lady Death killed Agatha’s son because it was her job, then she was just reminding Agatha that her son is dead and so can’t be Teen.

r80 yeah we know he is Wiccan

how long until his identity is revealed ?

the trial thing is getting a bit repetitive

The show seems to be good only every other episode, Agatha was way more fun on WandaVision.

omg love the crown

Joe Locke is officially Billy Maximoff / Wiccan

That Wiccan reveal was iconic!

r87 people are making insane theories about him being a villain but i actually want him to be a little bit crazy like his mom

R88 Yeah. For a kid to wield that much power ( I know in the comics he’s just as powerful as his mom) , that’s going to get into your head a little . I’m sure Billy will make some irrational decisions until he masters his temperament and powers.

r89 good chance we might see him go mad with power

To be fair Wanda was severely traumatized by the war and the Soul Stone, and in the comics, the literal God of evil was trying to take her over, Wiccan thankfully doesn't have those issues.

r91 Billy would be too. his mom died

This series is a disaster for direction. The writing is weak and the director(s)? are not compensating. The pacing and blocking and editing, all stodgy and clumsy. Were they TOLD to act this way or are they just randomly "acting" to get the gig over with? Nobody is coming off well and I like several of the actors.

r93 some of them are being underused

This show has been quite good and the acting great. Not sure what r93 is on about.

R95 I suppose if you are a 11 year old girl. The line deliveries, reaction shot acting, and the pacing/cutting is so leaden. plod plod plod plod plod plod plod. Everything is telescoped like a saturday serial for children,. Is this a children's series?

[quote]Billy would be too. his mom died

We don't know how much he actually knows about that. In the end, she offed herself.

Wanda lost both her parents in a bombing, then the soul stone corrupted her, losing Pietro hurt her, losing Vision drove her insane, losing the twins kept that going and then the Darkhold made it permanent. Billy should be relatively well adjusted in comparison.

He cared about Agatha until she killed Alice (by semi-accident) and he even picked up on that Agatha may not be as bad as people made her out to be.

r97 i am confused why Agatha had a change of heart. they are trying to make her Loki-esque arc but we already had that with Loki sp why again ?

Agatha reaffirmed her true colors when she outed Billy and accused him of being as bad as his mom. She's been intending to kill the rest of the coven and take their power all along, and she was keeping Billy in her back pocket as a possible advantage.

She may have miscalculated, though, because outing Billy seems to have broken the sigil on him and revealed his true self and power. I suspect the only thing that will save her is that Aubrey Plaza's character is still on the road and also has powers of her own.

I think when the go through the mud it's the road ejecting them and they'll find themselves back in Westview. Then they'll be able to use the portal that the Salem 7 came through to make their way back. I think the road was trying to save Mrs Heart. If you want real spoilers check out on IMDb how many episodes cast memebers are in - also told you from the start just who Joe Locke was likely to be playing as it lists the names of his parents characters (has done from the start). I'm still really enjoying it but then I'm a lesbian and a Joe Locke fan. When I heard he was going to be in it I started watching the whold of Marvel from the start (having never been remotely interested in any of it). I was worried he'd turn out to be a bit part but, for me it's turned out to my favourite ever watch. I know haters are going to hate but as an aging lesbian I love seeing a young gay guy getting to be at the centre of such a big franchise and I find it upsetting how bitchy people can be about it. Haters going to hate but c'est la vie, I think for someone's whose just turned 21 and has come from somewhere as remote as The Isle Of Man he's doing absolutely amazingly well and everyone he works with seems to love him which says a lot.

dayum

Mid-season (when did this become a thing?) trailer dropped.

Is that Wanda saying "Will Agatha Harkness finally meet her end?"

It sounds like Aubrey Plaza to me.

r102 wow you are ancient

episode 6 incoming

real sad for William Kaplan

Is Kaplan dead and Billy in full control or are they sharing the body?

Kaplan gone

The boyfriend texted that Billy was his black heart 🖤. So we have another option for a a black hearted witch beside Mrs Hart and Aubrey Plaza who said she has a black heart.

Speaking of, where is Aubrey this episode? The last time we saw her she was in the last trial house. Why is she not with Agatha and Billy on the Road in this episode as they team up to get to the end?

For the longes time, I thought Kathryn Hahn and Ana Gasteyer were the same person.

i loved Eddie but his face looks like the most homophobic ever lol

Billy Kaplan/Maximoff is dominating headlines and the lesbos are PISSED

The Jolene article made me laugh

The cameramen found very good angles of Joe Locke's face in episode 6, back story. It's an episode filled with close-ups and lots of acting by Locke. Both were better than I expected.

Ha!