The loyalty of Black people

More to lose if Trump wins

It makes it look as though most black voters don't think for themselves, but do what they're told. I'm talking about a perception, not asserting a total reality.

All I know is Nancy Pelosi is ready to jump ship. The only powerful people in the party still in Biden’s corner are black people and Gavin Newsom.

solidarity and loyalty is good. loyalty above competence is a mixed bag.

Black people were very loyal to the Clintons but the Clintons actually liked them.

Their loyalty to someone who lies about his participation in the Civil Rights movement, wrote the Crime Bill, attacked Anita Hill and is now preventing a Black woman from assuming the Presidency due to Biden’s obvious incapacity saddens me.

The steadfast support is admirable but it seems to be about the *past*.

Our present day problem is that our nominee is age 81 and he is mentally and physically deteriorating before our eyes.

What shape will Biden be in to debate in September, and campaign in the fall, if he is worsening? Too many inside reports have come out about it.

I thought Clyburn, who got him nominated via a string of southern (black) primaries, is now open to someone else?

Blind, unwavering devotion, like the Goebbels family had for their leader, for example, is not necessarily admirable.

Black people are constantly saving the Democratic Party from itself because black people know white people better than white people know white people.

Maybe they know introducing someone this late in the election cycle is a mistake. I personally think introducing someone else this late in the game is a mistake. It makes the democrats look weak. Sure, you could say that Biden is losing it, but at least we can be sure that the party supports him and will step up when they have to. The Republican party is superficially behind Trump, but they will turn on him as soon as things get rough and he will throw his supporters under the bus. He already has.

Then perhaps, R8, your time would be put to better use convincing MAGAts and other Republicans to take a closer look at their emperor because he's wearing shit-stained pants, his orange makeup is ugly, his cotton candy like hair is stupid, he's old and fat, a liar and a con artist/grifter, and he's an unmitigated jackass to boot.

[quote] What shape will Biden be in to debate in September

There seems to be a consensus in the pundit class that Trump won't debate again, but I question that if he believes Biden can't deliver a passable performance.

He carried water for Obama for eight years, they got his back.

Because Trump is going to deport them.

R14 I kinda don’t get the joke. On average African-American blood lines go back further than any other ethnic group, except indigenous people obviously, in America.

Biden is counting on black support and unions to carry him. Too bad it’s not enough.

R16 I think it will be a replay of 2016. He will win the popular vote but all them regular white people in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Ohio will overwhelm the votes of the major cities. However he will win the popular vote by a lower margin than Clinton in 2016.

No one seems to be talking about the millions of Democrats that will stay home if Biden is the nominee, especially if he’s polling 7-10 points behind Trump.

R18 That’s what I’m saying. Young black voter turnout will be low. Conservative democratic white men turnout will be low. Hell he might even lose the popular vote.

If the candidate isn't Biden, then we say "Kamala or Bust!!"

We have nothing left to lose, having always been the party's (and the nation's) black sheep. Enough!

If Biden holds on to the nomination, and if he ends up beating Trump - two big ifs now - democracy will be forever indebted to Black people.

Stealth supremacy thread.