Vive la France!

Finally some good news

Before I die, I hope I can figure out the parliamentary system.

They seem to have a decent number of seats for each of the three parties? What am I missing?

Thank God

R3, every media organization said that Le Pen’s party was going to have a blow-out win. Instead, there was an unusually high voter turnout and the far-right failed to secure enough seats to form a government. Macron still has to put together a coalition, of course, but this was quite a waste of money by Russia, which was counting on a Le Pen win.

^^ That bitch needs to be run out of the country.

Le Pen and the rural sector were hoping for this win. Your ordinary Frog can't quite face a Right-right leaning Gov just yet.

Pleasantly surprised.

Poland, England and now France.

Thank goodness

It was a good week for the European Left.

I think it's actually illegal in France to investigate such a question but I wonder how much of this vote margin came from third worlders (now over 7% of the population) voting against Le Pen.

America will be next to kick Fascism/Putinism right in it's cuntbone.

If white nationalist MAGAts like Russia and Hungary so much, they are welcome to get the fuck out of our country and go live in those shitboxes.

Hurray! The third world invasion can continue!

Now, if the American left can just pull themselves together.

There is no Third World, R13. There’s just one world, you fucking racist troll.

[quote] They seem to have a decent number of seats for each of the three parties?

If I read the results right, it looks like Le Pen’s party got the most seats for a single party, but the coalitions of parties on the left and in the center got more.

Way to go, France!

Thanks R5 that makes sense. Glad Big Mac survives another day

The crowds who have taken to the streets to celebrate are massive.

Watch if it suddenly becomes an anti-Jew demonstration

Ha ha to the French Trump

Let’s see if they can actually govern. Probably nothing much is going to happen in France for a few years.

R23, you are probably right. Still. This was a completely unexpected outcome to the almost assured win of the extreme right in France. It makes one hope. People are not, after all, that stupid.

French people might not be that stupid, R24. The jury is still out on Americans.

Agrreed, r24. I dont think American people are stupid but now they do have a more challenging option. I am particularly happy for this result because there has been a trend where nothing appears to stop the extreme right, in many countries. The , almost expected, fall of France would be another one. Surprisingly it, didn’t.

[quote] Let’s see if they can actually govern. Probably nothing much is going to happen in France for a few years.

The French are definitely getting the government they deserve. Heaven help them.

France will be France with a center-left coalition. Baguettes will be eaten, there will be some strikes, August will still be vacation. We should all be so lucky.

A triumph for Islam, too, isn't it?

And the Jews will continue to leave France.

There is hope. That lePen bitch deserves to die in a grease fire

I just returned home from a couple weeks in France. I had a feeling this would happen. Before the first round of balloting, not one person tried to shove a political flyer at me.

But after the hard right dominated the first ballot, every other person no matter where I was handed me a Populist flyer.

I’m a moderate but feeling pretty lefty today. The Populists saved their country! Time for us to stop whining and wringing our hands and bury this motherfucker once and for all in November.

Same old story. The right surges in the first round and then the left wing parties come together and back a centrist candidate in the second round in order to block a right-wing majority. Sarkozy owes his presidency to this phenomenon.

I'm surprise no one has posted this yet.

They just elected a crackpot FAR LEFT government. The country is going to go down in flames. These aren’t Macron types. These are batshit crazy ones. It seems France wants to go extreme whether it’s right or left.

Even my Labour voting friends in the UK were saying that they’re happy and thank god we didn’t vote for the mess that France just elected.

Saw this on Twitter:

It's important to remember that the far-left in France is arguably as Eurosceptic and anti-globalism at the far-right. This surprise result is not necessarily an endorsement of the pro-EU/NATO ideology.

R29, how so? Does everyone have to convert?

The right wing trolls are really out today... you guys aren't even trying.

Macron remains President, Le Pen's party finishes a surprising third, completely in contradiction to the polls. I haven't seen the fascist kid who was going to be the new leader say anything about "a rigged election"... ah democracy.

Given that no party will have a majority, it'll be a "stay the course" government. Not getting much done, but not breaking things either.

My conclusion on worldwide politics - mostly get rid of incumbents... not necessarily good news for either Biden or Trump (who is running like a sitting President).

'merica, learn from the French...The centre and left voted strategically. Nuff said.

From Twitter: "The leader of the Left has called French Jews “an arrogant minority that lectures to the rest.” He wouldn’t condemn 10/7. He praised Hugo Chávez and Nicolás Maduro. He cheered Putin’s invasion of Crimea. Not exactly something to celebrate or emulate."

"Moshe Sebbag, a rabbi for the Synagogue de la Victoire, tells The Times of Israel that 'it seems France has no future for Jews.' He advises young French Jews to leave for Israel."

French Jews wouldn't fare any better under Le Pen's Front.

That cunt is Nazi-adjacent, and her sick old father actually WAS one. The Front is chock full of Jew-haters.

Alas, there aren't enough French Jews to sway an election one way or the other. I wonder why...

[quote]Given that no party will have a majority, it'll be a "stay the course" government. Not getting much done, but not breaking things either.

Meaning they won't fix the immigration and non-assimilation problems, letting those things themselves break things.

I'll take Far Left over Far Right any day! Not that there's ever been a chance in USA.

The far left and the far right are the real majority in France. Not sure what the future holds if nothing gets done for the next year or so.

R41 got a source for that that’s not an unlinked twitter?

If they hold off Putin getting his claws farther into their govt, they will have done enough for now.

R48 Yep, the more significant, though underreported, fact about recent elections: will Putin's influence be allowed to win elections and change policies. He really wanted Macron gone, and this loss is a firm rebuke to him and his attempts. Obviously the Trump v Democrats election has Putin v western democracy as an important factor.

UK here.

I was talking to a French friend (who lives here) today. He had a postal vote for the first round of voting, but flew to Marseille to vote yesterday. He utterly despairs of Macron gambling like this, and is disappointed that the three blocs will be fighting too much to actually get any work done in Parliament. He says he would not be surprised if Marine Le Pen makes another run for the Presidency, despite her saying last time that she would not stand again.

Of course Le Pen will run again... and the election is in 2027. Given the way the world is, 2027 is an eternity away.

[quote] If they hold off Putin getting his claws farther into their govt, they will have done enough for now.

The French Left are pro-Putin.

You can now expect more terrorist attacks and beheadings in France.

R53 No, but we can expect even more nativist trolling on sites like Datalounge.

"Un plateau du fromage. Oo la la!"

What Americans call "the right" in France and other Western European governments bear no relation to the American Republican party. Americans just can't grasp this and think European political parties are the same as American political parties.

Muslim brotherhood won. Isn't islamo left their subsidiary.

R35 exactly. The voted French version of Rashida Tlaib.

National Front is neo-Nazi like Patriot Front is in the US. They are very different from traditional right leaning political parties in Europe.

Jean-Luc Melenchon announces that a left-wing government in France will recognize the State of Palestine as soon as possible.

[quote] I'll take Far Left over Far Right any day!

But the Muslims are far-right as well, and they all voted for the far-left.

[quote] National Front is neo-Nazi like Patriot Front is in the US. They are very different from traditional right leaning political parties in Europe.

The party name is National Rally now. Looking at the Wikipedia article, and just the intro without diving further inthe details, it states:

[quote]It opposes immigration, advocating significant cuts to legal immigration, protection of French identity, and stricter control of illegal immigration. The party advocates a "more balanced" and "independent" French foreign policy, opposing French military intervention in Africa while supporting France leaving NATO's integrated command. It also supports reform of the European Union (EU) and its related organisations as well as economic interventionism, protectionism, and zero tolerance for breaches of law and order.

For whatever reason, the into doesn’t include any neo-Nazi beliefs. Can someone familiar with French politics explain the new-Nazi part? I know there was stuff going on in the past, but talking about the current iteration of the party.

DL approves!

Well if they’ve changed their name I guess the group founded by Nazis whose platform is preserving the purity of French racial identity couldn’t possibly be neo-Nazi anymore.

PereTerre and all.

Those fascist cunts just can’t take the hint

Another example of the media and polling getting it wrong.

I wonder why that keep$ happening with the poll$, R66?

And the media? It'$ a my$tery.

Well France is dead.

The image at r69 intrigues me.

Media and polling got it right and it is based on this polling that

1) political leaders from the left spent most of last week trying to find who should be the next prime minister and that

2) I posted what would happen after Sunday in the thread below at R20. My post is timestamped 7/1/2024, so we knew here how this would eventually turn out: The National Rally never ever had a chance. The only surprise is that Emmanuel Macron's party came in second instead of third. But the National Rally never had a chance to win a majority of the seats.

Sorry R68, France is very much alive. And I would hope that the United States would be inspired by what just happened in Poland, in the UK and in France and follow in our footsteps. As a Frenchman I can tell you that if Trump wins come November it would affect me more than if the RN had won a majority of the seats yesterday, because I see it as the end of the NATO and 80 years of relative peace across Europe. I would like to add that Jean-Luc Mélenchon doesn't have a chance either to be our next prime minister. It will either be a moderate from the so-called socialist party (which is actually social-democrat) or someone from the left of Emmanuel Macron's own party.

Bur for some reason, most media out of the country made it sound like the Rassemblement National had it in the pocket. Now that I've said that, I still feel dirty and need a shower.

Sorry R71. I don't like Mosques and burkas ...... you're a muslim country now. The right did get more votes but not seats.

vive le france

and pretty soon we'll have posts regarding France where all the leftist hacks are shocked at the conditions their votes caused. Happens every time.

Is that flag sticking out of his ass, R70?

Mit Melenchon clearly does not, R63. I find him troublesome.

R75 Close, but no penetration.

So Putin's hackers manipulated the votes to make it look like there's a right wing trend going on... This is only a test.

Russia is officially depressed about this result.

Their unhappiness makes my day, R79.

They call this left islamo left, because it is close to Muslim brotherhood and radical islam. Muslim immigrants ard their most devoted voters along with bobos, upper middle class hipsters.

They are rabidly anti semitic (silly how Le Pen is called out for not being very Arab friendly, but left is much worse when it comes to Jews).

Last week a Jewish girl have been raped by few young Muslims, who also screamed anti semitic slurs at her. The left tried to relativize this, one of many attacks, by saying: what do they do to kids in Gaza.

Islamo left

The nutjob antisemitic enemy of your nutjob antisemitic enemy isn’t necessarily your friend.

The west is obsessed with Putin, but this guys are much more dangerous.

Apologies I missed signing my post.

There are some statistics that Muslim men commit large number of rapes, but the new phenomena is antisemitic rape.

Melenchon is an absolute asshole. France really stepped into it with him.

Failed to accuse Hamas murder and torture, praised Putin for taking Crimea.

[quote] Jean-Luc Mélenchon is a disaster for the French left – his response to the attack on Israel proves it

The new British Labour government won't be much better

I thought Labour got rid of all the anti Semitism. The French far left is a disaster.

I lived in Paris for five years and loved it. I taught in the public school system. I hate to agree, but the conservatives are unfortunately right in regard to the Muslims there. The current generations refuse to assimilate and the incoming immigrants are even worse. It wouldn’t be bad if they didn’t want to impose their beliefs on everyone else. I don’t pretend to know the solution but turning a blind eye or even encouraging this behavior will be France’s demise,

[quote] The current generations refuse to assimilate and the incoming immigrants are even worse.

And now their numbers let them become an electoral power. As long predicted France is well along to being absorbed.

France is fucked if they don't do something about the Muslim situation.

R70 Here ya go.

[quote] PM Gabrial Attal to offer resignation

Macron asks French PM to stay on

I'm sure that you will be as shocked as I was to hear that Marine Le Pen is being investigated for fraud, forgery and embezzlement in connection with her 2022 presidential run.

R96 Will they be bringing back la guillotine soon?

I lived in Nice back in the end of the 90's, and it was VERY apparent at that time that France was culturally, politically, economically... STUCK, and it was only the immigrants from the Maghreban that had forward momentum, at least culturally.

I think France is fucked, I think the EU is fucked and I think the US, the vasal puppet master, is fucked.

And this worries me a lot, as a US citizen

So Biden is the puppet master? And soon Donald Trump may be??

Oy vey.

It's not about Biden or Trump.

At all.

[quote]I'm sure that you will be as shocked as I was to hear that Marine Le Pen is being investigated for fraud, forgery and embezzlement in connection with her 2022 presidential run.

That's the new thing, to have the person you defeated locked up so they can't run again.

Politics à la Russe!

Russian poet Eduard Limonov was crazy extreme left meeting extreme right son of a bitch, but he said some good words about EU:

"Europeans are so timid they remind me of sick and elderly people," he begins. "And Europe is like one big old people's home. There is so much political correctness and conformity there that you can't open your mouth. It's worse than prison. That's why there is no culture in the west anymore. Just dying screams.

"In Russia, fortunately, the people still have some barbarian spirit. But Europeans and Americans are just dying, sick invalids."

R101, if you'd actually read the link at R96, you would know that LePen and her party have been investigated for years over campaign malfeasances.

R103 Onanistic gibberish.

Russia, where gay people are criminals, beaten and killed by those lauded barbarians, right, that's the way to the future.

Won't someone think of poor, bullied Russia????

[quote]"In Russia, fortunately, the people still have some barbarian spirit. But Europeans and Americans are just dying, sick invalids."

That "barbarian spirit" has translated to more than 150,000 Russians killed in the war against Ukraine and another 700,000 or so severely wounded.

Forgive me if I'm not envious.

There's a large # of cannibals in Russia.

Is this "Barbarian Spirit" caused by the cannibalism or is the cannibalism caused by the "Barbarian Spirit"?

Russians had their share of barbarism with the Mongol Empire. The Mongols were so bloodthirsty that it took 300 years for Russians to get their population back to pre-Mongol levels.

[quote] What Americans call "the right" in France and other Western European governments bear no relation to the American Republican party.

The European Right murdered six million Jews and caused two World Wars. We know damn well what the European Right is, you dipshit.

^^Yeah eighty fucking years ago, you dipshit. Let's talk about modern times, babe.

Germans are deeply ashamed of their racist genocidal past. Unlike Americans, who couldn't give two shits about their own racist genocidal past.

R111 just embarrassed himself. Classic.

R112 = same moron who knows absolutely nothing about history.

Jews now have to get out of France because of all the antisemitism.

Europe was responsible for the transatlantic slave trade. lol

But what is Europe in 2024 you idiots? You can't keep dredging up the long-ago past.

r113/r114 = ignorant asses who have probably never been to Germany.

“People who forget the past are condemned to repeat it. “

George Santanaya > R117

More "barbarian spirit" from Russia:

I'm sure they were only kidding around, R120. Everyone knows they're such jokers!