BREAKING NEWS: The Dems meltdown over Biden's shitty debate performance was for nought

Trump put the bar so low for Biden that the old man just speaking put a lot of regular folk at ease. This election will be about the economy, stupid. Inflation is easing so that's great news for the Blues.

That article is absurd.

"CNN’s last national poll was in April, when Trump had a six-point lead in a head-to-head matchup against Biden. In the new poll, Trump has … a six-point lead. In fact, the top-line numbers are exactly the same as they were two months before."

Why are they comparing now to April? April was 3 months ago. During that time Trump lost ground to Biden. And now, after the debate he's back up again.

A 6 point lead in July is not good.

Hillary had a six-point lead in July.

There are other post-debate polls that do show Biden losing support, OP.

We just need polls from Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Those states are the only ones that matter . What are they thinking? Joe is relatable because he's so normal.

[quote]Joe is relatable because he's so normal.

So true.

He's like your average 81 year old with signs of dementia.

R6, are you trained to give those diagnoses?

one doesn't need to be trained anyone with eyes can see it.

Burying the lede much OP! Trump leads by 6 for three months. It means Biden is certain to lose for him, could have dropped out in April and avoided this humiliation

It will take two weeks before we get an accurate read on the state of the race. It takes time for voters to digest everything. Take these early polls with a grain of salt.

Democrats didn't meltdown, the President has won the nomination in a landslide. The media is alarmed at the appearance of an 81 year old, looking old.

The media wants a convicted rapist and insurrectionist in the White House.

The media loves shitty diapers and smelling it, scat queens all.

Look at the aggregate data for all this polling stuff. FiveThirtyEight does a decent job and what they’re seeing is not so good for Biden.

[quote]The media is alarmed at the appearance of an 81 year old, looking old.

Oh, that's really all this is? It's all be cause he looks old?

538 now has Biden's approval rating at the lowest point in his Presidency: 37.3%

Who gives a fuck what 538 says. Is this October 2016?

screenshot.....HRC (and the THEMz Community) are unhappy with Biden. AGAIN. Today. Go look at the "trans influencers" swearing to vote Trump. Biden is losing too many votes in too many places. It's over. Biden will not win.

JFC it is not because he looks old the man cannot string a sentence together. Trump looks old but he can at least put a sentence together. It's all lies but he is a known pathological liar. People are used to him lying and they don't seem to care.

Trump won in 2016 because the Chicago Cubs won the World Series that year. Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin believed they could change shit by voting for Trump.

Installed. Not won.

A portly insurrectionist who wears adult diapers (and uses the diaper in public), is the picture of masculine virility.

The public knows everything there is to know about Trump.

Now what?

Joe Biden must crap his pants every time a camera is on him. They gotta get that guy on a schedule.

BEARKING NEWS

Oh no! What am I supposed to think now!

Please tell me what I’m supposed to do! I’m so confused!

The meltdowns came from white, ex-republician men and MSM pundits paid to act like assholes and lie while ignoring all of Trump's crimes, including the new info dump about his "fun" with his bestie Jeffrey that was released today.

Those people should have a nice, big group cry and then go fuck themselves.

25 Democrats are going to ask him to leave. One of the headlines tonght said that Kamala would probably be at the top of the ticket which means we will lose to Trump. Druge is claiming that Michelle would win by 50 to 39 against trump. I'm not sure I believe that.

President Biden does not have to wear adult diapers, your orange Jesus is incontinent, wears diapers and smells.

And.You. Like. That. Odor.

^^Drudge

Mel, its turd baby mama doesn't like the odor. And won't put up with it anymore. Not for any amount of money..

You do. And you do it for free.

Trump is mean and cruel. Joe won.

Proof positive the President is old and out of it? He agreed to debate it as if it's a real candidate. On CNN of all venues!

Debating it gives the impression of legitimacy. Undeserved.

The president does not understand that its no longer 1988, the other side has been consumed by magats. There is no other side. There is no Republican party, not anymore.

There is nothing left across the aisle except this

Here's what CNN has been up to.

A magat moderator. A magat audience.

Joe would never do anything deliberately to hurt you. He's old but he's not mean. That counts a lot.

But he has.

In what way?

Our choice is clear. Biden loses if he is on the top of the ticket. Sitting down with Stephanopolis is meaningless unless he is quitting. Telling George about how "fit" he is will be nothing but ridiculous.

[quote]The media is alarmed at the appearance of an 81 year old, looking old.

Personally, I’m more alarmed by the ghosts.

R38, A taped interview is meaningless, it has to be “live”.

Personally, I am more alarmed by it having a parole officer

Denial is more than a river in Egypt, OP. Who's paying you to continue to gaslight everyone? From this morning's WSJ:

A CBS News/YouGov poll released on Sunday found that 72% of registered voters now believe Mr. Biden doesn’t have the “mental and cognitive health to serve as president,” up substantially from the network’s previous poll. An identical share said Mr. Biden shouldn’t seek re-election, including a remarkable 46% of his own party.

Biden needs to go to Shady Pines!...and take Evita Jill Biden with him.

On the other hand:

Who is conducting the polls. How large is the sampling.

Why did registered Democrats vote for President Biden in a landslide?

It's WaPo, so it's agency propaganda. I trust the NYT to be more independent and honest on this front. IOW, don't be surprised when he loses in November.

You sacrificed a musty goat and the family dog, along with several horses to pray for the election results of your magat fantasy. But.

R43, registered voters and did not include Kennedy. Of course there’s also a MoE: 3.5%. Plus a Democratic candidate has to beat the Republican in the popular vote nationally, not tie, because so many Democratic votes are wasted votes in California.

[quote] The race for president has shifted in Donald Trump's direction following the first 2024 presidential debate. Trump now has a 3-point edge over President Biden across the battleground states collectively, and a 2-point edge nationally. A big factor here is motivation, not just persuasion: Democrats are not as likely as Republicans to say they will "definitely" vote now.

Is your response, R45, to the Reuters/Ipsos poll noted in the preceding post? If so, note that the (17th rated) Reuters/Ipsos poll is wholly unaffiliated with the (2nd rated) ABC/Washington Post poll.

538 now shows Trump at 41.8% vs Biden at 39.9%

That's Trumps highest lead since April.

RCP betting average: Trump 55.5%....Biden 14.5%

!!!!!

The poll was partially conducted before the debate.

Michael Halperin was on Sirius earlier this hour with the following observations:

1. Biden is, "by far," the most likely nominee, he initially opined. When asked to consider whether Harris or someone else might be the nominee, he said it was 80% likely that either would be the nominee. Breaking the 80% number down further, he said that it would be 60%-20% Biden over Harris.

2. Biden's poll numbers haven't collapsed because his physical decline was pretty much "priced into the stock."

3. Biden wasn't the favorite to win before the debate, but is now in "big trouble." Including in "safe" states such as NH, Minnesota & Virginia (he also mentioned another state; I believe it was Oregon). Trump went from being the "mild favorite" to the "heavy favorite ... for now."

4. When asked who might have the most influence - I assume outside the family - in persuading Biden to leave the race, he pointed to the scenario of Schumer & Pelosi giving him this offer: Either you make the choice or we'll make it for you.

5. When asked to consider potential running mates for a Harris candidacy, he mentioned the governors of Kentucky & NC.

^ Mark Halperin

By the way, now the official version is that he "nearly fell asleep" on stage. No cold is to blame after all. He was jet lagged.

[quote] At a Virginia campaign event on Tuesday evening, the US president blamed his weak debate on his international trips leading up to the event, saying: “I wasn’t very smart. I decided to travel around the world a couple times, going through around 100 time zones … before … the debate. Didn’t listen to my staff and came back and nearly fell asleep on stage. That’s no excuse but it is an explanation.”

All these stupid made-up excuses are bullshit and make them look like idiots who don't know what they're doing. He's too old to run again for President. He has to step down otherwise we will lose the election.

[quote]Go look at the "trans influencers" swearing to vote Trump.

If I ever needed proof...

[quote]He was jet lagged.

Jet lagged from where?

He had been back from Europe 12 days prior to the debate.

This latest explanation is so much more unimprovably upmarket than the common cold. Biden was being Presidentially a busy internationalist - activity not needed from courtroom attendee and felon Trump.

The creditable explanation might have had more impact had it come sooner, come first, not as an afterthought. But here we are, and Biden's leadership surely remains in the balance.

The only thing that would help Biden right now is for him to pass cognitive tests by a doctor at Walter Reed Medical Center. But we all know that he won't do that, because they're not sure he can pass. Trump probably couldn't pass, either.

R60, If Biden could survive a two hour “live” town hall where the questions were not known beforehand, everyone would shut up.

Biden's curve after the debate looks like the trajectory of a plane crash at 538. Sorry Joe, game over for real this time.

How can Howard Dean go on MSNBC and tell viewers that he’s confident Joe could serve another four years?

Has anyone noticed the eulogy language Biden’s “supporters” are using? They’re praising his accomplishments and his good character. Maybe they’re priming him for a graceful exit. Joe Scarborough sounds like he’s reading an obituary whenever he discusses Biden.

R58 My thought.

[quote]How can Howard Dean go on MSNBC and tell viewers that he’s confident Joe could serve another four years?

Howard Dean: expert in optics 😂 😂 😂

Dean wasn't responsible for how that was reported. Television was. TL;dr The only sound they used was from the unidirectional microphone in front of him, which did not pick up any of the background noise of the crowd. He was yelling over the crowd.

[quote]Those at the event recalled the crowd being so loud they could not even hear Dean; this experience was not reflected in television broadcasts of the rally, as the audio they used was from the unidirectional microphone Dean was holding that significantly decreased the background noise.

[quote]"none of the reporters on the press plane were talking about [the Dean scream]"; only when a CNN associate producer brought it up when at New Hampshire was she aware of it. Eric Salzman, who reported Dean's campaign for CBS, revealed it was the network's editors that chose to focus their coverage on the scream despite insistence from journalists at the rally not to: "It was an interesting example of the power of television, because editors said to their reporters, 'Hey, I saw it. I watched it on TV. I know what happened.' And the reporters were trying to say, 'No, it was different if you were there.' And the editors were like, 'Hey. I'm telling you I know what the story is, and this is what we're reporting.

Kamala is already being mopped up on social media.by the right wing loons. Apparently she has been saying stupid shit for years and we didn't pay attention. WE ARE SCREWED.

[quote]Apparently she has been saying stupid shit for years and we didn't pay attention. WE ARE SCREWED.

r68, disingenous doesn't suit you, ya fuckin' troll. God bless!

It is not clear the President loses. This is a magat fantasy.

R69 Grampa Magoo isn't winning. And Kamala has been one of the people hiding his health [bold]Educate Me----->>How do YOU think this is going to turn out?[/bold] It is time to fucking panic!!

I am panicking, ya feces flinger

[quote]r71 - It is time to fucking panic!!

Well, sweetie, you can just panic for the rest of us, 'kay?

Future Emperor Trump up SIX POINTS.....PANIC!! ...............R72 thinks throwing dirt on a filthy person is going to someone help Biden "win"? Fuck you. We are losing this.

Can we at least change out Kamala Harris? She’s about as authentic as a hard shell taco, and has proven herself to be best left in the background.

I am panicked. Y'all like to play with your own shit.

Take your SHRIEK! PANIC!!! posts somewhere else, r74. As of now it's Joe vs Trump. Pick one.

Biden will lose. Fact.

Not understanding. But your side doesn't do logic. Your side does insurrection and fecal play. President Biden, who easily won the Democratic nomination, should step aside, because you said so. His vp, should also step aside. Because you said so. And Governor Handsome should be the nominee.

Because you say so?

The taped Biden interview with Stephanopoulos is only going to be fifteen(15) minutes in length, a stipulation made by the White House.

All through the day 538 and RealClear have been adjusting their averages.

538: Trump in the lead (+2.3) at 42.1% vs 39.8%

RCP: Trump in the lead (+2.9) at 46.7% vs 43..8%

Funny thing is the RCP Betting Averages have Kamala with greater odds to the WH than Biden.

[quote]because you said so.

R79 it's not because we say so. It's because people who count say so.

[quote]But your side doesn't do logic.

The one not doing logic is you.

"I think we have to face the truth that no one seems to want to admit. This is no longer a case of excessive narcissism or grandiosity. We're not simply dealing with an unusually large ego. The president of the United States is seriously, frighteningly, dangerously unstable. And he's getting worse by the day"

Go back and read that article and look at the charts. Kamala a lot stronger than expected. Exceeds Biden on non-white, women, independents, and the young. And the others are in striking distance of Trump. Rip the bandaid off and GO!

I donated to Biden yesterday, & plan on volunteering for the campaign on weekends.

The debate did distress me for a few days, & then I realized that giving up on someone who had one bad night is absolutely ridiculous, & not my style.

I understand the concerns, however, this is where we are, & it’s NOT the time to give up and say, “Fuck it. I’m out.”

[quote] Burying the lede much OP! Trump leads by 6 for three months. It means Biden is certain to lose for him, could have dropped out in April and avoided this humiliation

Live, from Vladivostok - R9!!!

R85, you'd remain on deck playing Nearer My God to Thee, right?

Tell your handlers you deserve to be punished. More.

Where do all the donations go? Nobody watches those tired commercials *click* With the internet and 24/7 news shows- why would you have to spend a dime? Do rallies, kiss babies, travel, etc ?

R88 This isn’t the Cambodia I know.

You know the world is upside down when Boris and Svetlana from St. Petersburg and Biden's campaign staff are joining forces to gaslight us.