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Young men are "raw dogging" on long flights

Michael Ceely once spent a four-hour flight just zoning out – no magazines, no movies, no podcasts, just looking out the window and watching the flight map.

Ceely, a therapist in California who specializes in working with men, believed it was a form of digital detox and meditation. But a growing contingent of young men on the internet are doing the same practice but branding it in a very different way: it’s called “raw dogging.”

“I was tired of the usual routine of watching a movie or reading a book (onboard) so I said, ‘I’m just going to kind of stare off into space, and use it is a Zen meditation.’” Ceely says of his experience chilling out on a plane.

He says that it can be difficult to get some men to embrace meditation, mindfulness, or anything else that could be considered “spiritual.” While he tells CNN he’s not familiar with the term “raw dogging” being used in this particular way, he can see why the eyebrow-raising moniker appeals to a certain kind of traveler.

“Men do like challenges,” he says. “It’s definitely more socially acceptable for men to brag about something like this. Also I think it might be more of a male psyche kind of thing: I like a challenge, let me see if I can get through this. It’s an acetic practice, but branding it with bro-speak.”

Some men have taken the challenge beyond just eschewing in-flight entertainment, skipping on-board food and drink or even getting up to go to the bathroom.

The trend has been popular on social media, with TikTok users one-upping each other for who has gone the longest stretch with the fewest amenities. A British DJ with the handle oiwudini got 1.3 million likes on a video where he bragged about traveling on a seven-hour flight without headphones, sleep or other creature comforts. One commenter called the experience “an incredible dopamine detox.”

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by Anonymousreply 34July 13, 2024 4:00 AM

I do the raw dog once. Is very special memorie of weekend in Belgrade.

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by Anonymousreply 1June 28, 2024 5:17 PM

I only ever do raw dogging.

Never condoms.

by Anonymousreply 2June 28, 2024 5:20 PM

‘I’m just going to kind of stare off into space."

I perfected that shit 30 years ago and all I got was ragged on by my girlfriend.

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by Anonymousreply 3June 28, 2024 5:21 PM

Die in click-bait hell, OP.

Follow me, I'm off to Pornhub fellas.

by Anonymousreply 4June 28, 2024 5:37 PM

Ching ching chong chong?

Translated as:

What is "law dogging," prease?

by Anonymousreply 5June 28, 2024 5:50 PM

I can stare off into space for very long periods of time and just think my thoughts.

It is embarrassing when I'm staring in no particular direction, then realize that someone is actually directly in my line of sight and he thinks I'm staring at him.

by Anonymousreply 6June 28, 2024 5:50 PM

I’m an older man and I sit by the window still thrilled to see the world pass by below. I use the flight tracker, almost never use any of the other media and usually read a book- I read a lot. I do not use my laptop or any device. I doze off while reading on long flights, wake, read, doze off. I’m amused by people pulling down window shades all over as if any distraction from a device screen is life threatening. I guess I’m just old. I’m 70 and have been flying regularly all over the US and world my entire life!

by Anonymousreply 7June 28, 2024 5:54 PM

I've been doing this for 30+ years. Back in the '90s when I was a road warrior, I took coast-to-coast flights as an opportunity to completely unplug, do not work nor think about anything work-related, and just relax. I frequently just stare out the window on shorter flights, enjoying the views and being left to my thoughts. But raw dogging? I call it veging out. This seems like one of those efforts to redefine words needlessly.

by Anonymousreply 8June 28, 2024 6:02 PM

I love raw dogging with young men on long flights!

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by Anonymousreply 9June 28, 2024 6:26 PM

Raw dogging at 40,000 feet.

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by Anonymousreply 10June 28, 2024 6:33 PM

Raw dogging already had a meaning, and this was DEFINITELY not it.

Who was the idiot (that must have arrived on the planet yesterday) who decided to grab this already-taken phrase and attach it to this activity? Yeah, "vegging out" is more appropriate for this.

by Anonymousreply 11June 28, 2024 6:46 PM

Whoever is trying to make this phrase happen obviously hasn't really raw dogged.

by Anonymousreply 12June 28, 2024 6:50 PM

I'm disappointed there isn't a comment section (that I'm seeing) on this article. I bet some of those comments would be priceless.

by Anonymousreply 13June 28, 2024 7:05 PM

I want to fly with r7.

by Anonymousreply 14June 28, 2024 7:23 PM

Everything needs a stupid name these days.

by Anonymousreply 15June 29, 2024 1:28 AM

Isn't raw dogging what the pilot does before suddenly exclaiming, "Oh SHIT!"

by Anonymousreply 16June 29, 2024 2:08 AM

I tried it but saw a gremlin on the wing and it ruined the mood.

by Anonymousreply 17June 29, 2024 3:19 AM

I know, Shatner / r17. What a buzzkill.

by Anonymousreply 18June 29, 2024 3:22 AM

Does it count if you’re listening to music? I decided several years ago I can’t concentrate on any Tv shows or movies or books on a flight so I watch the plane tracker and listen to a playlist, just to drown out the people around me. And I always fully ignore the stewardesses trying to throw nuts and soda at me.

by Anonymousreply 19June 29, 2024 4:14 AM

I’m glad newer planes aren’t bothering to install seatback monitors.

by Anonymousreply 20June 29, 2024 4:24 AM

You can't do anything, R19.

It's like a game to see how long you can suffer on a flight, without any conveniences.

Like, how long can you hold your breath under water.

No food. No water. No movies. No electronics.

Nothing.

That's RAW DOGGING.

by Anonymousreply 21June 29, 2024 4:25 AM

r21 you mean how we actually went on flights pre mid-90s., 2000s

NO COMMUNICATION WITH ANYONE.

You had food and water, DUH.

by Anonymousreply 22June 29, 2024 4:31 AM

[quote] I sit by the window still thrilled to see the world pass by below

Exactly. The countryside and communities during the daylight and the patterns of light at night

by Anonymousreply 23June 29, 2024 4:32 AM

Young men go on social media to discuss NOT being on social media for a plane ride? Phone addiction is just as bad as meth.

by Anonymousreply 24June 29, 2024 6:20 AM

Maybe close your eyes instead of stare at a screen?

by Anonymousreply 25June 29, 2024 6:47 AM

I went on a work trip / flight with coworkers, earlier this year. I was the only one who brought a book (an actual book). I was the only one without an Apple watch. I have to eat on the plane, though. I was the only one who brought snacks from home.

I'll admit that I didn't finish my book and, after the trip, I didn't try to finish reading it. I've lost my attention span for reading. I'll continue reading that book on my next trip.

by Anonymousreply 26June 29, 2024 7:08 AM

Raw dogging and barebacking

by Anonymousreply 27June 29, 2024 7:15 AM

I've been raw dogging long before it was cool.

by Anonymousreply 28June 29, 2024 7:26 AM

I did all my own raw dogging in my newest film. It's freaking AMAZING, man!

by Anonymousreply 29June 29, 2024 9:24 PM

[quote] Jared Leto Joins in on the ‘Raw-Dogging a Flight’ Trend: ‘Bare Back of a Seat for 17 Hours’

Jared Leto is flying distraction free.

The 52-year-old actor took to Instagram to join in on the "raw-dogging a flight' tiktok trend, which sees plane passengers boasting about enduring lengthy flights without any form of entertainment, viewing only the flight map.

“What’s all the fuss about raw dogging flight maps? Back in my day we raw dogged the bare back of a seat for 17 hours,” the Thirty Seconds to Mars frontman wrote over a video of himself doing just that.

“Many years of training for the long flights,” he added in the caption. “Who else is practicing their patience until tour starts back up? 😅”

In a follow-up comment on the post, he urged, “Send this to someone who understands 😎.”

Commenters had mixed reactions about the trend.

“I could stare at the back of a seat for 17 hours on end,” bragged one Instagram user, while another admitted, “Patience isn’t my strongest suit.”

However, one commenter noted that the My So-Called Life alum was sporting sunglasses in the video and suggested he was really napping rather than staring at the seat ahead of him.

“You're sleeping,” they wrote. “Behind the glasses you can't see a thing.”

According to Forbes, sleeping while raw-dogging a flight is “cheating.”

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by Anonymousreply 30July 13, 2024 12:56 AM

As many have pointed, "raw dogging" is usually used to describe something quite different.

Also, as to this particular form of "raw dogging," David Puddy did it decades ago, enraging Elaine in the process.

by Anonymousreply 31July 13, 2024 2:46 AM

In other news, on a recent transatlantic flight I spent half the time browsing DL and Reddit while crossing the ocean since the in-flight WiFi was reliable.

by Anonymousreply 32July 13, 2024 3:34 AM

[quote] on a recent transatlantic flight I spent half the time browsing DL and Reddit while crossing the ocean since the in-flight WiFi was reliable

That's funny.

Every time I take a flight across the Pacific, I can never get WIFI because it's out of reach. About 10 minutes out from the coast, WIFI becomes unavailable.

So how is it that you have WIFI crossing the Atlantic?

I think you're lying.

by Anonymousreply 33July 13, 2024 3:37 AM

R33, believe whatever you wish I guess. I’m not sure what I would have to gain by making that up on an anonymous forum.

I never have any luck with Southwest WiFi flying over land, so I no longer waste the money on it.

I took United from Spain to the states recently and the WiFi worked fine the entire time. Ditto for nearly the exact same route aboard Delta two years ago. I’m two for two now with being lucky with the WiFi over the Atlantic.

The one time I flew over the Pacific was so long ago that WiFi on a flight was a distant pipe dream.

I too would be curious why I have such shit luck with the WiFi on domestic flights over land but no troubles at all crossing the Atlantic. And for all I know, perhaps satellite Internet coverage is far more sparse over the Pacific than the Atlantic, but that’s just speculation on my part.

by Anonymousreply 34July 13, 2024 4:00 AM
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