Donald Trump calls out Gen. John Kelly as a liar

It's really a sad state of affairs when most Americans will be siding with the pathological liar on this one (and many others issues).

I don’t care if he really said it or not. The Dems and their groups need to constantly run those ads with John Kelly claiming he said it. These rightwingers lie about President Biden all day and night. This election is a war and anything goes. We’ll worry about the truth on November 6th.

It is a fact that he did not go to the cemetery. It was raining.

He is a draft dodger.

Oh look. Another Trump thread.

Except that there's voluminous video evidence of Trump disrespecting, dismissing and dishonoring veterans and their families. There's the well-known story in which he refused to get out of the presidential limo at the commemoration of D-day because it was raining and would muss his hair. And I don't think there's a person alive who doesn't recall what he said about McCain.

No, they really won't r1. On this one, most Americans know Trump is a cunt who has only ever given a shit about himself and absolutely despises almost everyone else as losers whose only function in life is to love and worship Trump, and of course give him money.

And r2, of course he said. What in the entire history of Trump would make anybody think he wouldn't say it?

It is interesting that he's disputing Kelly's comment now when Kelly said it years ago. What's changed? Other than being a convicted felon.

trump also denies he said “lock her up”.

And at the end of the day, who are we going to believe? The guy who has more integrity in his fingernail clippings than the guy who has lied about everything his entire life?

Just listened to a caller on Sirius extolling Trump's superior "character" because you always know where you stand with him.

Polls would indicate otherwise, R10.

Articles I've seen lately show blacks and young people flocking to Trump. For what reasons I have no idea.

But if current trends continue' Trump will be president again (God help us all).

John Kelly should take a liar detection test and publish the results publicly. Then challenge the Orange shit-rat to do the same thing. He won't of course because he's a flaming coward. Those who give a shit about evidence will be convinced. No sense trying to convince MAGA, their brains are shrivelled up feces at this point.

And then there was that soldier that was killed in Yemen (I think, I could have the country wrong) and they tried to get Dump to comfort the wife. Dump said "Well, he knew what he signed up for."

Zero empathy from this sociopathic POS. He looks down on people who served our country as suckers and losers. And now he just lies and denies. And his cult believes him. We live in interesting times.

Takes one to know one.

Of course he said it, but John Kelly, whose son died in action, should have decked him right there instead of waiting years to write it in a book. John Kelly, I don't want to say you're a coward, but if there ever was a proper hill to die on defending your fallen son's honor this was the one to do it on

Donald Trump, who has a long history of lying and showing contempt for veterans and anybody who has ever sacrificed anything for anything, denies that he ever called soldier losers and suckers. John Kelly maintains that yes, the lying grifter did in fact say that.

What to believe. What to believe. Tis a dilemma.

I seem to remember Trump going off about this guy as well.

Link is free.

Sept. 2020. The Atlantic article, portions of which have been corroborated by the Associated Press, the Washington Post, and Fox News, also reported that when Trump aborted a visit to another World War I cemetery, blaming the weather, he remarked, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In addition, Trump reportedly said that the presence of maimed U.S. veterans would upset spectators at a military parade, commenting, “Nobody wants to see that.”

Ever notice Trump never mentions that his brother Fred Trump Jr served in the Air National Guard? Fred was in ROTC throughout college and entered Air National Guard as a second lieutenant. Fred always wanted to fly planes and he learned how to fly in USAFNG. He became an airline pilot, which Fred Sr and Donald compared to being a chauffeur or bus driver.

Trump is not proud that his brother served in the US military.

R12, your defeatism is not only premature but wildly exaggerated. In the most recent poll, Biden is now ahead 50-49 in the battleground states, with Trump ahead 50-49 nationally.

[quote] Those who give a shit about evidence will be convinced.

Anyone who is not MAGA already knows whom to believe in a dispute between an admired general and a pathological liar.

[quote]I don’t care if he really said it or not. The Dems and their groups need to constantly run those ads with John Kelly claiming he said it. These rightwingers lie about President Biden all day and night. This election is a war and anything goes. We’ll worry about the truth on November 6th.

I'm with R2!

Convicted felon with bone spurs reporting for duty, sir!

Being tied with a demented criminal who says he want to be a dictator is cause for alarm.

Dump avoided military service because there might have been group showers. Others would've seen his puny mushroom cocklet! 🍄

[QUOTE] It is interesting that he's disputing Kelly's comment now when Kelly said it years ago. What's changed? Other than being a convicted felon.

This is what changed, R8. We’re running attack ads about it and Trump’s in a huff.

He has a long record of saying similar things about veterans for years. This is not a one time incident. Consider his history.

He can add this to his rally standup routine. Along with windmills and water pressure. He never forgets a slight, and will often try to besmirch the accuser with a similar accusation (pussygrabbing = Tara Reade, etc ).

Who you gonna believe? Convicted felon donald trump or Gen. John Kelly? Hmmm?

I thought so.

A narcissist taking a lie detector test? Right. They believe their own lies. Their false reality is the only reality to them. Everyone else is at fault, never them. They are always the victim. Orange Jesus would pass any lie detector test just fine.

There have to be nearly a hundred incidents of him besmirching our military and veterans, on video. More people had to hear him behind the scenes. All of this together, yet who would say: all of it, ALL OF THE EVIDENCE, are lies and the one known liar is telling the truth?

Only a moron would think that. A deluded moron who has no regard for our military or veterans. Because if they did cared about our military or veterans, they would not want a scum such as him to be their commander-in-chief.

Note how artfully he poses the question — “Who would say such a thing?” or “Only a sicko or psycho would say such a thing!”

But he doesn’t deny saying, just asks the self-revealing question or statement. Crazy fuck.

Juar like Bill Barr, Kelly will still vote for Trump over communist Biden, so why are you cunts lionizing Kelly?

R33, Kelly has called Trump the most damaged person he ever met & that he's more evil than any terrorist he encountered on the battlefield. I seriously doubt he's voting for Trump.

The problem for Kelly and others like him from the Trump administration is that they definitely fit the bill of being disgruntled former employees. It would have more impact coming from someone who left on good terms. Kelly probably should have stayed as Secretary of DHS.

The people who left on good terms are now working somewhere in the GOP orbit. Their jobs and all future political prospects would be strangled by the MAGA squid which has its tentacles tightly wrapped around the Republican Party.

[quote] The people who left on good terms are now working somewhere in the GOP orbit.

That definitely doesn't describe Kelly.

He just can't let any criticism ever go unremarked. Except the drugs, pantshitting and Ivanka fucking. He's uncharacteristically silent on those

[quote]Polls would indicate otherwise, [R10].

The polling since 34's conviction has shifted. It's trending toward Biden. Particularly, and importantly, in the battleground states.

[quote]Articles I've seen lately show blacks and young people flocking to Trump. For what reasons I have no idea.

Question those articles. We know the usual suspects are out there flooding the zone with misinformation, obfuscation and outright lies. Again, polling has shifted and the two groups you mentioned are now leaning Biden.

[quote]But if current trends continue' Trump will be president again

The good news is that if the post-34-conviction trends continue, Biden will be president again. But this is not assured, and we must still act like we're 10 points down and get ready for the fight of our lives.

[quote](God help us all).

Indeed.

I remember when John Kelly as his COS and saw video of him while Trump was making a speech. He was cringing.

Does Trump now get that deplorables alone aren’t going to get him to the White House and is backtracking on his worst takes since 2015-2106? First the libertarians, now the vets and military families? Too little too late.

Trump has a very sick mind. I'm counting on my fellow Americans to notice and vote appropriately.

Trump is gonna lose. He now is a politician. He can't act like this is 2016 and he doesn't know what the fuck is going on. The fat turd has a political record and can't hide behind trying to be a blond airhead. This is different. Black people loathe him. White, young, suburban women loathe him because of Roe. Independents are turned off by his felony convictions.

After all his mocking of how infirm Biden is, it would be ironic if he succumbed to injuries sustained while falling off a stage or tumbling down airplane steps (with toilet paper on his shoe). That's the only thing that's going to stop Trump.

Joe is sane, Trump is not. The End.

^ And they're both old, so that argument is pointless. New slogan, "I'm ridin' with the sane guy"

Trump is a danger to our democracy. If you wanna know what ppl will do in the future, just look at their past.

Flynn and Eric Prince are amassing an army of retarded rejects on X Spaces and via the "ReAwaken America" tour. When Orange Jesus loses, they are planning to attack specific locations. They have a "kill list" Flynn and associates tweet about frequently.

The DOJ and FBI has done nothing about them. Flynn threatened Obama on X last week, nothing was done.

I worry more about those freaks than Trump winning. Trump can't win without cheating, obviously. He knows it, his advisors and enablers know it, even a lot of his supporters know it ("It isn't cheating if you don't get caught!"/"It's not cheating if we did it before the Democrats thought of it!").

Fortunately for us, those retarded rejects don't know they're retarded rejects and will go out and do the same things that got their fore brethren indicted and convicted, many of whom sit in jail today. Steve Bannon said at the beginning of Trump's term that we need to cull about 20% of the population, and he's right. This is a good first step.

He DID say it.