Bad Boys Ride or Die box office

It has a chance among straight guys and Blacks.

Generation X and millennials are not going to the movies for any action movies with stars their age. That will be the truth for black and white audiences.

Hollywood needed to reconnect with audiences by bringing in new material. Even last year we saw a major flop with old action hero Harrison Ford. And Tom Cruise’s MI7 saw a significant dropoff. These franchises are too old and the actors are too stale. Bad Boys will continue the downward trend.

only 29 million?

That would be a real slap in the face.

Embarrassing

Embarrassing

Hollywood is becoming more cost conscious and less risk averse, so fewer total movies are going to be made over time. There has been a dark, noticeable absence of twinks from almost any popular films. This has obviously crashed and burned Marvel and Star Wars franchises already because they’re shitting on an entire demographic. The drought of celeb twinks coming out since Noah Schnapp is also because twinks are just not around anymore. It’s even easier to hire UK heteros for American gay roles. lol capitalism is doing its thing tho I guess

I'd watch if Martin is dressed like Sheneneh the whole time!

Agreed R7, though teenaged me found Otis the security guard slightly funnier.

Its reviews are not strong and ultimately, who cares? There is no reason why this needs to be seen in a theater. Plus Will Smith is thoroughly disgraced.

[quote]Who is the audience for this? Martin Lawrence is 59 and Will Smith is 55. The first Bad Boys was made so long ago, Don Simpson produced it.

The third movie, BAD BOYS FOR LIFE, came out in early 2020, and was a smash hit in theaters, topping the box office for 3 weeks.

Of course, this was just before Covid and before Will Smith disgraced himself at the Oscars.

[quote]It’s even easier to hire UK heteros for American gay roles. lol

He's not gay, he's British. 😂

Bad Boys for Life WAS the reunion movie. It was made after a 17 year absence. This was made after a four year absence. In between, Will Smith ruined his reputation and COVID destroyed habitual moviegoing.

I would be very surprised if it doesn’t underperform. Every action movie starring a star over 40 has bombed.

This is a pattern. Two Henry Cavill movies, a Ryan Gosling movie, a Chris Hemsworth movie. The audience for action movies with anyone over forty has abandoned habitual moviegoing.

Meanwhile, what is essentially an action movie merged with a character driven drama, The Last of Us, has made a nearly fifty year old Hispanic gay man one of the most popular actors in the world. Because the audience for this kind of entertainment not only wants to see it at home, but they want to see something they can emotionally invest in. They avoid movies because they have been trained to expect better quality than the glib product that blockbuster action movies typically deliver. And for that, you can blame Game of Thrones. In which he also appeared.

Even better example. The biggest breakout star of the year is a fifty two year man who has been acting for thirty years. Again, a genre blend of sci fi action movie with character drama.

This is what people in their 30s and 40s want to see. They will only go out for the occasional spectacle, like Barbenheimer or Dune. The kind of movies Tom Cruise made in his forties like Minority Report and War of the Worlds could not be made for theaters today, with an actor also in his forties. But they would be phenomenal hits on television.

I heard it leaked online already.

I checked and it isn't on the big torrent sites R14.

I think it will flop, and Hollywood will officially go into panic mode over the summer box office.

I looked at a 7:00 show in SF in a big theater and only 11 seats were taken.

💣😱

Opening wknd of Bad Boys: Lipitor or Die will be a test to see if old fart Gen-X men still go to the theaters.

Who could imagine the Fresh Prince of Bel Air would one day only appeal to an elderly demographic?

R16: I guess Inside Out 2 and Deadpool & Wolverine are the only Summer releases that are technically safe.

Can’t they beat that dead horse one more time???

Stop talking about Jada!

Twisters tickets for IMAX, Dolby, and Standard are on sale today.

Bomb incoming

7:30 tonight Cinemark Playa Vista (Los Angeles)

7:00 Dallas IMAX

7:05 (playing now) Universal Orlando

I think they died. I can't imagine them riding. Maybe they died in the process of riding.

The box office doom troll has returned, ready to upchuck his hate for everything cinema.

And me.

The Twisters team is already starting the promo. They’re probably so scared shitless looking at the state of the box office and they have a $200 million dollar budget.

Twisters made a big mistake by casting a very bland, very forgettable looking Daisy Edgar-Jones in the role. I do not know why Hollywood will go to the mat for these identical British actresses. They needed to cast someone from the South or Midwest, because this is a red state event film. Powell was the perfect actor for this.

R30: Especially since the trailer gives the impression her character will be the main protagonist and that Powell perhaps is borderline supporting.

I really don’t think the actress in Twister has any bearing on whether it will be a successful movie.

The next big 💣

The bottom line is that people don't want to see movies in a public movie theatre anymore. The writing has been on the wall and getting increasingly louder for several decades now. Hollywood ignored it. There's really nothing else to say.

Will Smith is not box office anymore. Remember Omega Man aka Box Office Hiroshima? And that Apple TV film that sank without a trace?

The 1990s called. Even they don’t want this franchise back.

People want to see movies in theaters but Hollywood does not give them anything other than same franchises that they have seen for decades. Movies are considered expensive now, they don’t want to spend money on something they’ve already seen.

I don’t think people do want to see movies in the theater anymore, R36. It’s like work from home. Everyone has the resources and the equipment to do it from the comfort of their homes (televisions are cheap, broadband is low latency and high speed) so why spend $30 at the theatre.

Hollywood needs to get with the program and start pricing its streaming offerings accordingly.

But until that happens I am so cute.

We can also have everything we want to eat delivered to our home but restaurants still exist. People like to leave the house.

R6, are you unaware of Timothée Chalamet in Dune or Nicholas Galitzine being cast as He-Man?

The TWISTERS trailer and cast look so 'woke,'

i.e. diverse crew and female leader.

99% of storm chasers are white and male.

Very, very few females or POC.

And the men are always the leaders.

The original film got that right.

[quote]Very, very few females or POC.

That should be, practically no females or POC.

R41: If it turns out to be a disappointment, we'll know why.

I don't think I've ever seen a POC storm chaser.

They've all been white men.

Maybe one or two females here and there, but they tend to be girlfriends or groupies.

Storm chasing is really a white man's domain.

R41, Helen Hunt was the lead of the original Twister, and Jami Gertz had a significant (and incredibly annoying) supporting role behind Bill Paxton and Cary Elwes. The gender composition of the leads is essentially the same as it was in 1996, and the major difference in casting is more Latino characters (Brandon Perea, Anthony Ramos).

This isn't a female Ghostbusters situation by any means.

I wonder how The Bikeriders with Austin Butler and Tom Hardy will do when it's released later this month.

Deadline says it's a success (at least in Thursday previews).

R46: It's been sitting on a shelf forever. The studio will do little to no promo and then dump it.

Bill Paxton was not supporting in TWISTER.

Yes, Helen Hunt was the main protagonist, but Paxton was the leader of the crew and has the same amount of screen time as Hunt.

When he arrives at the beginning of the movie to get her to sign the divorce papers, the crew (with Hunt at the helm) has been struggling without him.

When a twister suddenly hits, they talk Paxton into taking over and you know the rest of the movie.

After that, they're practically in every scene together to the very end.

[quote] We can also have everything we want to eat delivered to our home but restaurants still exist.

Basic take. Try again.

First of all, no one said that restaurants don’t exist. Second of all going out to dinner is not the same thing as going to the movies.

lol at Deadline’s analysis of Bad Boys box office.

At least one person on this thread — R12, et al. — doesn’t know what they are talking about.

[R46]: It's been sitting on a shelf forever. The studio will do little to no promo and then dump it.

That's not true. It made its premiere last fall at TIFF and was due to come out at the beginning of 2024, but New Regency dumped it and Focus picked it right up. And as for promos, you can't drive a quarter mile in LA without seeing a billboard for it.

We all know that all storm chasers are Trans Womyn of Color and they discovered tornadoes!🌪️

“Demos (for BB4), which change throughout the weekend, were 36% Black, 29% Hispanic and Latino, 20% Caucasian, 10% Asian, and 4% other. Men over 25 were dominant at 40% followed by women over 25 at 38%.”

[quote]I don’t think people do want to see movies in the theater anymore

R50 That's not a basic take?

It can’t be a basic take when it reflects reality.

Are men over 40 going to bring Bad Boys 4 to a $40 million opening?

R57: If Generation X doesn't turn out for Bad Boys 4 this weekend, we can start writing the obituaries for Wolfs.

Technically, Clooney and Pitt are Baby Boomers.

So weird to think of Pitt as a baby boomer (or even Tom Cruise, who is 2 years older than him) because we Gen X'ers grew up with them. Pitt maybe not so much, but we were watching Cruise playing teenagers and high school students when we were teens and high school students.

Unless there's a huge collapse in sales on Friday and Saturday, Bad Boys will probably just meet expectations. Hollywood will celebrate but will conveniently ignore the massive drop in week two.

R61: I think Twisters will follow the same trajectory. I think it will at the very least break even and anything beyond that will be great luck.

Apparently its over performing

If it ended in a sex-fueled suicide pact between the two leads I would go.

No, who am I kidding. I'd catch it on streaming

I wonder who is seeing it when the theaters look empty.

R65 go on AMC for tonight and look around. Most theatres are 80% sold. It’s going to open fine.

Pumpkin-headed old men pointing rubber guns at stuff, yay.

R66 out of curiosity, and based on your comment, I checked Fandango for tonight's showings in Portland at my local Regal theater, for both IMAX and standard showings. COMPLETELY UNSOLD. I think I saw maybe five or six seats sold in total

Well, if it isn't a hit in Portland...

It should be noted that Portland is the whitest major city in North America.

It is whiter than SLC or Edmonton or Winnipeg.

Portland is also located in a state whose constitution bans Black people.

Movie’s not for you, Portland.

Yes, the constitution in Oregon bans black people, r71.

This movie is going to still flop big time, even in states which allows blacks legally.

Evidently not, honky.

[quote] Yes, the constitution in Oregon bans black people, [R71].

No one said that or anything like that.

You're twisting my words around because you made a stupid claim, and now you're embarrassed, so you're going into attack mode to deflect attention.

Box Office: ‘Bad Boys: Ride or Die' Makes $5.9 Million in Previews

West Chicago suburbs, just starting

How is this doing $50 million

LA in 2 hours

Maybe walk-in business? Will Smith is back bitches!

"Portland is also located in a state whose constitution bans Black people."

R71

Um, that is EXACTLY WHAT YOU WROTE, r71 / r74 YOU WEIRDO

I couldn't twist them to be more absurd if I wanted to.

R76, r77 here’s Atlanta area in 45 mins

The blks are fittin ta turn out for ol willie and maaaarrrrrrttttttiiinnnn laaawwwwrence

[quote]Twisters made a big mistake by casting a very bland, very forgettable looking Daisy Edgar-Jones in the role. I do not know why Hollywood will go to the mat for these identical British actresses. They needed to cast someone from the South or Midwest, because this is a red state event film. Powell was the perfect actor for this.

Once Republicans take over EVERYTHING, there will be a figurative culling of foreign actors, who have benefited greatly from the Democrats' complete takeover of Hollywood within the past 20 years and going farther left, politically.

It is Democrats who believe in "OPEN BORDERS FOR EVERYTHING (AND SCREW MY FELLOW AMERICANS)."

Whereas Republicans believe in "AMERICA FIRST FOR EVERYTHING (AND SCREW EVERYONE ELSE)."

Most Americans are for the latter, when all is said and done.

Everyone seems focused on Will Smith being the weak link in this movie, but let’s not forget that Martin Lawrence is a one note actor whose time came and went back in the 90s. No one wants to see his style of boring humor these days.

R82 it’s too bad you haven’t followed the last 2 Immigration Bills unanimously blocked by the Republicans

"More great news, knock on wood, that the marketplace is rebounding – a bit. Sony‘s Bad Boys: Ride or Die secured $21M today on its way to a $52M opening. While that’s what tracking saw three weeks ago, the sour market poured cold water on those prospects. Turns out, initial tracking was right."

This is a major victory for Wilma Smith,

“Bad Boys for Life (the third movie from 2020) drew 58% under 35, with 42% Black moviegoers, 30% Caucasian, 18% Hispanic and Latino and 10% Asian American/other. The fourthquel (this one)… showed 50% under 35 with 44% Black, 26% Hispanic and Latino, 18% Caucasian and 12% Asian American/other buying tickets.”

This is what is interesting. It went from 60% black/Hispanic to 70% black/Hispanic. Caucasians dropped 12%!

Now I think I understand why this held up. Because this is one few well know franchises with Black stars. So Black and Hispanic audiences who probably are going to the theater just as infrequently as everyone else, chose to show up for this because it’s the kind of thing that Hollywood doesn’t even offer any more outside Michael B. Jordan. If Jonathan Majors didn’t destroy his career he could be making blockbuster action movies with Michael B. Jordan. So now it’s just Michael B. Jordan and he makes one movie every two years.

Bottom line, theaters are still fucked.

Agree. Minorities have made this movie a hit. They probably were starved for an action-comedy film designed for them.

Here is a list of action-comedy films from the past two years featuring Black leads:

1. **They Cloned Tyrone** (2023) - John Boyega, Teyonah Parris, Jamie Foxx 2. **The Blackening** (2023) - Dewayne Perkins, Grace Byers, Jermaine Fowler 3. **Haunted Mansion** (2023) - Rosario Dawson 4. **The Equalizer 3** (2023) - Denzel Washington 5. **You People** (2023) - Eddie Murphy 6. **Good Burger 2** (2023) - Kenan Thompson, Kel Mitchell 7. **Day Shift** (2022) - Jamie Foxx 8. **Bullet Train** (2022) - Brian Tyree Henry

What a shame this movie is going to do well. I was hoping we would have Will Smith out of our lives for good.

I bet it drops more than 50% in its 2nd week.

I think this is probably the first time in a longtime where there is not a high profile black comedian or comic actor that Hollywood is trying to make into the next Eddie Murphy or Chris Tucker.

Black comic actors were the biggest and most reliable stars in Hollywood at one point - now Hollywood doesn’t make the films in which they can use to launch careers.

Hollywood breathes a sigh of relief as the film appears to be doing better than expected. But weekend two will likely have a 60 percent (or more) drop.

Next week is "Inside Out 2," which will almost make or break the entire summer movie season. I will laugh my ass off if it underperforms.

Both stars are rebounding from mental fragility/substance abuse/nervous breakdown rumours. Bad Boys, talking’ about those Sad Boys. I hope to God the film does at least well enough to spare them a tragic relapse. It’s like “let’s pray for them, Anita.”

Inside Out 2 I would not be shocked for underperforming because I don’t think Pixar has as much value as a brand like when Inside Out came out. Inside Out was nine years ago; that movie premiered at Cannes, and it was something that was launched on Pixar’s reputation for adult appealing stories. Inside Out 2 feels “Disney”; it feels like a kiddie movie. The poster is very childish, like a Muppets show for Preschoolers. I also think Disney did incredible damage to its brand with the launch of DisneyPlus and the decision to route its movies there during the pandemic; I think Lightyear in particular damaged the audiences’ trust in “unnecessary” IP. If Inside Out was such an important movie they wouldn’t have waited nine years.

The poster seems designed to move merchandise.., but how many kids will want an ”Anxiety” plush?

82% minority turnout is huge for a big opening.

I also feel like Pixar kind of burned Inside Out 2 by releasing Elemental last year, which felt like a sequel to Inside Out, so there may not be as high a desire to see something people think they just saw.

Maybe BB4 box office shows how unpopular Ryan, Emily and Chris are.

Oh this is why Will wants to be forgiven.

Now up to $56 million

Just like I said in the other thread about Will Smith, his audience doesn’t give a shit about the Oscar slap.

The people on DL were so bad at judging the box office and the stage of Will Smith’s career cause they’re too old, white, and gay and have no understanding of how heterosexual men, especially minorities, are interested in.

It was like right wingers who were swearing “Barbie” was going to flop cause it was too woke and female oriented.

Just out of touch and illogical.

I don’t like Will Smith either but I can separate my emotional opinion about him and be logical enough to know people still love Will Smith.

The people who don’t like Will Smith over the Oscars slap NEVER liked him and would never watch his blockbuster movies, especially Bad Boys.

Lol.

Bad Boys 3 actually did $62 million in its 2020 opening (it opened the MLK 4-day and did $73 in total)

$56 million only indicates a slight audience loss of around 10% (that would align with the 12% decrease in Caucasian ticketbuyers)

So the franchise suggests that audiences still want to go to the movies, but

A) minority audiences may be clinging to this because they’re so underserved by Hollywood

B) Caucasian audiences gave may have become indifferent to star power while minority audiences still support their stars (even after they become ostracized)

Isn’t it a success because the franchise has been successful? At 55, Will could still do a few more action films catered to this audience but unless it’s this franchise, there is no guarantee of success.

I wonder if they will trot out sequels to Independence Day and I Am Legend.

Anthony D'Alessandro must be jizzing in his panties with excitement.

R104 The franchise is it’s a Will Smith and Martin Lawrence playing buddy cops.

It’s not a franchise you can reboot or recast, it would bomb without Will Smith.

[quote] The people on DL were so bad at judging the box office and the stage of Will Smith’s career cause they’re too old, white, and gay and have no understanding of how heterosexual men, especially minorities, are interested in. It was like right wingers who were swearing “Barbie” was going to flop cause it was too woke and female oriented.

Exactly. In the other thread, one eldergay was foaming at the mouth when I posted an article with predictions that this would be a hit. Once again, eldergays' box office predictions are always off because they're completely out of touch and live in their own bubble.

Is Jada plotting at the red table to re-emerge as the black queen of Hollywood?

Bad Boys is one of the best action movie franchises left, and there’s people in here who thought it would flop because of the Oscars slap? Are you kidding me? Nobody who likes Bad Boys gives a shit about that.

I saw it and had a great time, like always. I’ve seen every Bad Boys in theaters since Bad Boys II. Mike and Marcus are the best buddy cop duo since Riggs and Murtaugh. I’m looking forward to the next one.

R104 Bad Boys is not a strong franchise, after all there was 17-year gap between the films 2 and 3

And Will Smith himself fronted the Men in Black franchise to diminishing returns on a more traditional franchise timeline (5 years between 1 and 2 and 10 years between 2 and 3).

Also remember that Columbia tried rebooting Men in Black in 2019 with Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson, 2 years after Thor Ragnorak was a huge hit. Men in Black International was a huge flop.

What Bad Boys to me says is not that franchises are strong but that audiences still want to see certain types of films and that includes these 90s type action films that are unrelated to sci-fi and superhero genres. Bad Boys was a buddy cop movie that Hollywood made very well on the 80s and 90s (Lethal Weapon was the template) and that audiences loved and that Hollywood simply did not bother to make anymore because it wasn’t GENRE. I think the preference for genre has more to do with merchandising and cross-promotions than actual studio enthusiasm for genre films. Remember Disney created Michael Bay’s career but you couldn’t put the characters from “The Rock”, “Armageddon” or “Pearl Harbor” on a lunchbox; you can put “Transformers.”

Speaking of which, Michael Bay actually made a good movie (two years ago?) called “Ambulance.” It starred Jake Gyllenhaal and Yahya Abdul-Mateen II (no offense but marketable names are important). It was not technically a buddy cop movie, it was an antihero movie, but it was as close to a 90s style non-genre action movie as has been released by a major studio (Universal) in a long time.

It bombed.

Speaking of action movies

This man was largely responsible for creating the biggest ones of the 80s and 90s

Now in the beginning of the aughts, the fluke success of “Pirates of the Caribbean” caused Jerry Bruckheimer to sell his soul to IP. This coincides with fall of Michael Eisner and the rise of Bob Iger. Bob Iger did not believe in “general entertainment.” He shut down Touchstone Pictures which had released most of Bruckheimer’s movies. Instead, Bruckheimer would produce genre IP for the studio’s Disney brand. This resulted in more Pirates, the “National Treasure” series, “The Prince of Persia”, “The Sorcerer’s Apprentice” and “The Lone Ranger.”

Jerry Bruckheimer produced this year’s “Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare” which grossed a whopping total of $20 million worldwide (it did not get international theatrical, presumably because other studios watched it before buying it.) Watching “Ministry”, it became clear Jerry Bruckheimer no longer knows how to produce an action movie. Large portions of the screen time revolve around Eiza Gonzalez’s character in a non-action espionage plot. The movie was marketed as a Henry Cavill/Alan Ritchson action movie. Cavill and Ritchson have excellent chemistry together. But, that was not the movie Bruckheimer delivered. The “Gentlemen” were poorly developed characters in a series of violent, confusing grindhouse violence-porn scenes, spliced alongside a completely different movie starring Eiza Gonzalez and Babs Olusanmokun. I couldn’t believe someone decided to take a fairly simple “Inglorious Bastards” knockoff concept and decided that the movie needed to revolve around a non-famous woman. That’s the disconnect in filmmaking now. People are abandoning concepts that worked because it has to be, um, “modern” (turns eyes toward Kathleen Kennedy.)

This is literally what happened to “The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare.”

Speaking of which

How the fuck did they predict The Acolyte

WOW!

[QUOTE] Bad Boys is not a strong franchise, after all there was 17-year gap between the films 2 and 3.

I think that’s a testament to the strength of the franchise. That they can take those long hiatuses whenever Will Smith screws off to do other projects and then pick up without missing a beat? Should’ve been a death sentence. What other franchises besides James Bond and the friggin Halloween horror movies can successfully pull that off?

Good for Will Smith. The film got solid reviews as well. At least every film isn’t a flop.

$56 million, $104 million worldwide on a $100 million production budget.

Bad Boys is making about as much money as it would have made if the pandemic never happened.

This is not the life raft Hollywood needs.

Does this mean we’ll see more of Will? I hope not.

Team Chris.

It means we will see another Bad Boys movie which will take the actors through the series into their sixties.

Hollywood always learns the wrong lesson.

At least M. Night Shyamalan's cunt nepo daughter's film was a gigantic flop, critically and commercially.

Op God were you wrong!

Will Smith surprises a screening at Baldwin Hills

This is why we need movie stars. This is why people liked this movie. Because it combined a person everyone knows whom they have affection for, with an entertaining story. Hollywood simply forgot that element. They thought IP is king, it’s not. It’s the need for entertainment.

That’s why DC failed and Marvel succeeded in Phase One, because Marvel made entertainment. Now Marvel is failing because it’s no longer entertaining.

If Hollywood wants to rebuild, it has to build its movie stars back up.

Will Smith was proof this weekend that star power can still exist.

I read on Reddit in a Chris Hemsworth thread that he’s not a box office draw but Hollywood chooses him because his name is press friendly in that he can get magazines and TV bookings easily and draw in the promo circuit despite not drawing in an audience.

That makes sense. That was basically someone like George Clooney. And you can see it today in many actors. They all have acclaim and press and no one watches their movies.

That’s why I’m interested in Glen Powell and “Twisters” this summer. He was able to get a rom com hit, he was able to do a press tour and hype for the Netflix movie, now “Twisters” is the big moment to see if his career is smoke and mirrors or can he actually be the first “movie star” / box office draw in a long time.

The LA Times came to the same conclusion

[quote]I read on Reddit in a Chris Hemsworth thread that he’s not a box office draw but Hollywood chooses him because his name is press friendly in that he can get magazines and TV bookings easily and draw in the promo circuit despite not drawing in an audience.

He was actually chosen for this film because if they needed to cast an Australian in order to get Australia's heavy production subsidies.

Hollywood gave up on Hemsworth as bankable after Blackhat made only $19 million worldwide. He was only bankable as Thor or in Thor-ish films (why MIB cast Tessa with him.)

A significant hindrance for Hemsworth is that there are no "Matthew McConaughey leaning on a woman" films made anymore - midbudget romantic comedies starring actors in their 30s and early 40s. He would have easily taken the spot vacated by new Oscar winner McConaughey if they still made those films.

R125: Unless you closely follow Hollywood, the average person isn't aware of the current "stars" that are foisted on the public. Even with social media, these stars are quickly forgettable.

As for Hit Man, don't believe the hype. Powell is OK in it. It's way too long and really not that fun.

Yeah Twisters will be make or break for him. His in-development projects may not be there at the end of the summer if Twisters disappoints.

R126 has the LATIMES ever heard of The Color Purple, In the Heights, The Equalizer 3, American Fiction, West Side Story (2021) or King Richard and Emancipation both starring Will Smith?

R129 Exactly. These knee-jerk analyses for clicks have the context of a fruit fly. The “Bad Boys” audience is the same as the “Fast and Furious” audience. Which will be gone next week, just like that dead franchise.

Relying primarily on minority audiences for box-office success is a fool’s errand. Why? Because there aren’t enough of them to sustain a leggy blockbuster.

[quote]A significant hindrance for Hemsworth is that there are no "Matthew McConaughey leaning on a woman" films made anymore - midbudget romantic comedies starring actors in their 30s and early 40s.

You LITERALLY just described "Anyone But You," the Sydney filmed-and-set romcom starring 35-year-old Glen Powell who falls for Sydney Sweeney's knockers.

[quote]As for Hit Man, don't believe the hype. Powell is OK in it. It's way too long and really not that fun.

It's under two hours and easily one of the best movies released this year. Linklater & Powell are likely shoo-ins for a Best Original Screenplay Oscar, as was also the case for the "Before..." films with Ethan Hawke & Julie Delpy. Sorry you're a grumpy old dude or something.

It would have to be an extremely weak year for this to get an Oscar nomination. The fact that Netflix held it for Summer (this premiered last year at Telluride) shows that it’s not a contender..

Glen Powell is R132.

[Quote] As for Hit Man, don't believe the hype. Powell is OK in it. It's way too long and really not that fun.

Variety Owen Gleiberman

Hit Man is studded with delicious moments, but as amusing as the movie is it has a plot that sprawls forward in a rather ungainly fashion, and it goes on for too long.

R135, it's at 97% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. Give up the ghost, dear.

The oddness about Anyone But You is how old Powell is versus the kind of film this is made for. This is a movie for teens and young twenty somethings while the McConaughey movies veered toward audiences in their thirties. Sweeney should have been paired with someone her own age except there really are very few male stars her aged who have achieved prominence.

Truly fascinating thread with detailed analyses as to why "Ride or Die" was CERTAIN to bomb. Its IP is nearly 30 years old. Gen Z doesn't want to see geezers running around. Nobody's making movies with comedic cops nowadays. Will is CANCELLED because of The Slap.

WRONG, BITCHES!!! But I'll explain where you honky asses fucked up.

First, you know how y'all flock to anything & everything with either gay actors and/or gay characters? Yeah, Black people do the exact same thing: see case in point, Tyler Perry's literal entire career. Hollywood tracking ALWAYS fucks this shit up, but Black and Hispanic audiences show up IN FUCKING DROVES for movies that give them actual onscreen *representation*. (Surely you don't think "Fast & Furious" became a colossus because of Vin Diesel's acting ability.) Don't worry if you missed it: Hollywood analysts always get this shit wrong, too, or at least white ones do.

Anyway, I've seen the stats: 44% of its opening weekend traffic was Black and 26% Hispanic, and unsurprisingly performed best in L.A., NYC, Houston & Atlanta. And while WHITE Hollywood might've wanted to cancel Will, BLACK Hollywood is another story. (Also, did y'all forget that it was a mostly Black jury that found O.J. not guilty? And you thought they'd cancel Will Smith because a comedian insulted his wife on live television?!?)

Yes, I know our resident racists are already retconning all of this to be some sort of "Black thing" – blissfully unaware that this is very similar to how QAnon constantly pumps out propaganda – since "only" 18% of the viewers who blew the movie WAY the fuck past all of its tracking were white. Tedious & predictable, as always. 🙄

R137 Imagine her opposite Chalamet... It'd be comical.

R132 = Richard Linklater, aka, Cinematic Sominex.

[quote] WRONG, BITCHES!!! But I'll explain where you honky asses fucked up.

R138 = Time-traveling Jimmie Walker.

Will Smith was once of the biggest crossover stars on the planet and the people he appealed to don't give two fucks about an Oscar slap. Most of them blame Jada anyway. If Will sticks to "fun" action/comedy movies his career will be in good place again.

HOLLYWOOD REPORTER: Why alienating white audiences is a solid financial decision for the film industry!

R120 You're clearly on the losing team.

Didn’t it make like 100 worldwide. That’s dam good in today’s market. I guess Papa Smith still got it.

sorry R136 but it has a 7.1 rating on IMDB User Reviews Sounds like a forgettable time killer to me.

6/10 Don't believe the hype

6/10 Hit man Misses the Target

6/10 so close ruined by consistent illogic

6/10 Just didn't do it for me. Next

sorry [R132] Hit Man has a 7.1 rating on IMDB User Reviews Sounds like a forgettable time killer to me. Bland white bread Glenn Powell is being overly hyped.

6/10 Don't believe the hype

6/10 Hit Man Misses the Target

6/10 so close ruined by consistent illogic

6/10 Just didn't do it for me. Next

R130 I don’t know how much “Bad Boys” needs white people because based off of “The Fall Guy” and “Furiosa”, white people clearly aren’t going to the movies.

R143 Oh please.

Whites are not monolithic. Especially white people in major cities.

I bet you don’t think white people consume rap.

R136 Just about everything is 97% on Rotten Tomatoes today.

Rotten Tomatoes is unreliable at this point.

A lot of people are going to YouTube for movie reviews now. Double Toasted, Angry Joe, Chris Stuckmann, Jeremy Jahns, Critical Drinker, and Nerdrotic have way bigger platforms than any critic from Rotten Tomatoes. And most of those names all anti-Rotten Tomatoes.

I remember when Rotten Tomatoes first started, an excellent movie would be in the 80-85%. It used to be hard for movies to get in the 80s. Now it’s easy to get a 90%+.

R128 There’s 2 problems with Hollywood today.

The first problem is the stars of today are social media influencers.

And the second problem is todays actors think social media is beneath them.

Glen Powell has 1.6 million followers on Instagram. That’s 100k more than Jake Andrich who literally just posts sexy pin-up photos of himself for OnlyFans. Jake has 2 million on Twitter while Glen has 115k.

So an independent softcore porn star has a bigger social media presence than a Hollywood actor who’s starring in the next $200 million dollar movie this summer and has being pushed constantly by the press for the last year.

The music industry has definitely started to take notes on social media influencing. A lot of music artists are way more popular than Hollywood actors because rappers and singers are constantly on social media doing lives and IG stories whereas Hollywood actors want to be more professional and elusive, which clearly isn’t working.

Is Bad Boys 4 going to continue making money? Not sure if minorities care after opening weekend?

Well it made $105 million globally so I feel like this “black Americans all went the first week” seeing as it made its budget back globally in the first 3 days.

Looks like it met expectations and then some.

including a Thursday night preview BBs domestic gross is $56.5M in 3 days. Furiosa's domestic gross is $58.6M in 17 days of release.

I just saw it and in the words of those queens on In Living Color: Hated It!

Just kidding. It’s phony as a mafucker and well the script is a bit rough but it’s an entertaining popcorn flick. There is just something about the chemistry between Martin Lawrence and Will Smith that makes up for the film’s numerous flaws.

Do they make love?💕

Sidenote: Why doesn’t nobody remember that Martin Lawrence’s character had sons in the first film?

[quote] Gen Z doesn't want to see geezers running around

Why does everything revolve around their wants and needs?

When I was their age, things were geared towards everyone’s taste so people could find something that appealed to them. Adults/advertisers didn’t ask my opinion, kiss my ass and cowtow to me. Instead of bending over backwards and having to adapt to their world, how about making them adapt? Adults need to stop pandering and make them grow up.

I certainly watched movies, read books, listened to music all before my time. I didn’t cringe at older people and their likes—they were just older people.

Monday 6/10 total domestic gross BB $63M; Mad Max $59M💣💣

BB is holding steady into the week

Anataylorjoy is a horrible actress, no wonder no one is going to MM

BB4 revenue immediately dropped by 60% on Monday.

^^^As movies do after the weekend. Not 2 worry.

[quote]And the second problem is todays actors think social media is beneath them.

Except Glen Powell doesn’t. He posts regularly on social media and even has an account for his dog. He often posts pictures with his shirt off.

Austin Butler, who actually does think social media is beneath him, has over two million more followers than Glen.

Austin Butler is so fkin fine in that new trailer with Tom Hardy. I want him and will have him.

R139: It would never work. Mouseboy doesn’t like white girls.

BBROD made $7,2M on Tuesday bringing it's 5 day total to $70M

[quote] BBROD made $7,2M on Tuesday bringing it's 5 day total to $70M

FLOP!!!!!!!!!

It could make a billion and Will Smith would still be a shit person.

June 14l $87M domestic BO to date. Will make back it's production cost by the end of the weekend in the US alone

its^ The film's budget is speculated to be around $90 million, similar to the previous installment, Bad Boys For Life.

Excellent.

Bad Boys: Ride or Die must earn at least $200 million to succeed, following the franchise's success with previous films.

It's a success after 2 weeks in release

Theatrical Performance

Domestic Box Office $112,240,000

International Box Office $102,400,000

Worldwide Box Office $214,640,000

R174 A total slap in the face to anyone who hates Will Smith.

Clearly people still like him r175. They’re going to see the movie. It’s a HIT.

R170 a very rich shit person. And he’s nowhere near as bad as many others yet we keep villainizing him over a stupid slap 👋🏻

R163 ummmm movies always plummet on weekdays…

[quote]Rotten Tomatoes is unreliable at this point.

Yup, R150, and see the article at the link for just how far the studios will go to ensure a "fresh" rating for a film undeserving of it.

[quote]Glen Powell has 1.6 million followers on Instagram. That’s 100k more than Jake Andrich who literally just posts sexy pin-up photos of himself for OnlyFans. Jake has 2 million on Twitter while Glen has 115k.

What, seriously?? You're trying to compare the next McConaughey to some OnlyFans twit? "Hit Man" was an incredible movie, but it's also an R-rated streamer drama. "Twisters" is one of only two remaining tentpoles coming this summer (along with "Deadpool & Wolverine"), and Glen is its star. I could literally guarantee that his IG follower count will multiply exponentially for the remainder of the year.

R179 Hit Man was awful. Sorry.

R180 literally almost everybody disagrees with you, both critics & fans alike. Sorry.

[quote]Sidenote: Why doesn’t nobody remember that Martin Lawrence’s character had sons in the first film?

It came out in '95! Those boys would be in their 30s by now, and sure as FUCK not living at home! (Also, I assume in this one they decided to use his dimwitted son-in-law – the same actor who first played him as a 15-year-old in "Bad Boys II" (in 2003) – as a combo comic relief / deus ex machina Beast Mode reveal. But really, the sons would've gotten in the way of the plot, namely Marcus's wife & daughter being kidnapped - too complicated to factor in three adult sons as well.)

[quote]Why does everything revolve around their wants and needs?

They don't. You were merely reading the whining of one of our resident geriatrics who hate all things young.

[quote]Austin Butler, who actually does think social media is beneath him, has over two million more followers than Glen.

I'm still baffled why you're obsessing over IG follower counts, but the fact that an actual Oscar nominee has fewer than four million followers is the really surprising part. While you're obsessing, however, note that Austin has fewer than DL fave Joe Locke – who has two million fewer than his co-star Kit Connor. (Also, the most savage diss you could've mentioned is that Glen has about the same # as Bash!)

[quote]A total slap in the face to anyone who hates Will Smith.

I'll quote Will himself (as Mike in the movie) here: "Don't hate the player; hate the game."

[quote]Bad Boys: Ride or Die must earn at least $200 million to succeed, following the franchise's success with previous films.

True. Sort of. The outlier in the series is actually "Bad Boys II": it had TWELVE TIMES the budget of the first one, and is arguable Peak Michael Bay Ridiculousness. (They closed down the MacArthur Causeway for WEEKS to film the scene where the bad guys are, quite literally, throwing new cars at Mike & Marcus off of an 18-wheeler.) Anyway, THAT movie cost $130 million in 2003 dollars! Smart move letting a promising director duo, skilled at keeping budgets tight, take the reins for the last two, which have obviously done well.

The most impressive part is one I suspect most people entirely missed: about half of "Bad Boys for Life" was filmed in Atlanta, and it was about 80% for "Ride or Die." (Definitely done to save $$$.)

BB4 will never catch up to the cartoon about a white girl. 🧒

R181 I don’t care what others say. I watch movies for myself and form my own opinion. Your post is ironic though. Upthread you say critics and RT aren’t reliable anymore in regards to this movie getting good reviews but you’re quick to bring up critics good reviews of Hit Man, a film most aren’t even watching. I wonder what the difference is… hmmmm

[quote]Hit Man, a film most aren’t even watching

Aren't watching, eh?

So, a billion isn't cool anymore?

It’s a shit movie.

Still, allow me to clarify this part:

[quote]Your post is ironic though. Upthread you say critics and RT aren’t reliable anymore in regards to this movie getting good reviews but you’re quick to bring up critics good reviews of Hit Man, a film most aren’t even watching.

Yes, I said RT was unreliable, except you omitted the context of me referring to movies that basically suck and studios using artificial trickery to "goose" a movie's rating above 60%. But you know what *is* reliable*? An RT rating north of 95% fresh – and "Hit Man" is 98%.

I also didn't delve into ways of detecting unreliability, but one of them is looking solely at the top critics and whether they've ranked a movie on a four- or five-star scale. Even I'd call bullshit on a three-out-of-five-stars movie being "fresh": to me that says "D- and bordering on an F". Same for 2.5* out of four.

From RT's "Hit Man" reviews: a total rave from The New Yorker, which should defeat any absurd "shit movie" claims all by itself, unless you think you're a finer cineaste than Richard Brody. Only three splats out of nearly SIXTY Top Critics picks – and if anything I'd challenge their Top Critic designation. (One is for something called Autostraddle.) Yes, a handful are the bullshit 3-out-of-5-star type, but most are not. It's a hit, even if you hate it.

But hey, if you insist on dying on this particular hill, go for it.

[quote] I could literally guarantee that his IG follower count will multiply exponentially for the remainder of the year.

R179 = Sally Schoolgirl, vapid moron.

From 6/19

Grossing over $223M worldwide since its June 7 premiere, the fourth installment of buddy cop action franchise Bad Boys ride or Die with Will Smith, Martin Lawrence, Vanessa Hudgens and more.1 day ago

Could The Bikeriders surprise? It’s being pushed like heck the past few weeks. It could be another “Challengers” situation in that it’s pushed as a sleeper hit but ultimately the odds aren’t in its favor. I don’t think The Bikeriders will show that Austin Butler is a draw or warrants $10 million a movie.

The Bikeriders isn’t a mass appeal film. You even bringing it up shows you don’t know about films, marketing or general audiences.

Challengers did fine. It’s a niche film that was promoted as a mainstream film but most knew it was a niche film without even seeing it. Tennis=niche in movies. Those films never do well, hence why they’re never made.

R192

As of June 19, 2024, the 2024 movie Challengers has grossed $94,103,039 worldwide, with 53.1% of that coming from domestic audiences and 46.9% from international audiences:

Ok. So it did fine. Thanks for the confirmation.

So what is the summer Barbenheimer? Badboyengers? Badboyriders??

"Deadpool, Wolverine & the Twisters" is the new "Barbenheimer."

Deadverine or Wolvisters

“Challengers” barely broke even. I honestly believe they thought it would do better, that’s why they paid Zendaya 20% of the films budget.

They’d have broken even had they hired someone else lol.

Bad Boys is almost $300 million worldwide. I think it’s safe to say it’s a hit.

I don’t think Challengers broke even. Wasn’t it $55 million budget plus (at least) $20 million promotion. That would need a gross of $150 million.