A hysterical Reddit frau has a meltdown over her son sleeping with stepbrother

Vile bitch. They are both around the same age, so her son is as "disgusting" as his for cuddling and playing around.

I should have read the comments before replying. It's not just the frau that is hysterical, OP. That comment section is totally unhinged. Two gay teens are playing around. No grooming is taking place. It's not the same situation as a pre-teen girl and an older teen boy or whatever examples Rddit is coming up with. It's two gay guys having fun. Jesus Christ. I hate the younger generations.

And, one more thought... this absurd prudishness and leaps to "He's being groomed! It doesn't matter if they're gay! Protect him!" is what you get when straight autists get to claim they're queer by saying they are non-binary, asexual, whatever nonsense when really they're just unfuckable, boring assholes who want a reason to claim that they're oppressed. They don't actually understand what it's like to be a gay guy. They're just playing pretend.

What the hell is she doing in the bathroom while her 14 year old son is in the shower??!!??

The comments on that thread are why I [italic] can't stand [/italic] Zillennials (younger millennials and Gen Z) on Reddit. Huge judgmental prudes and bores. Infantalizing, too. They think they're so progressive but they're actually worst than the conservative church ladies of yore who meddled in other people's private lives. And I detect more than just a little homophobia within them, too. NOT a fan.

[quote]What the hell is she doing in the bathroom while her 14 year old son is in the shower??!!??

PROTECTING THE CHILDREN!!!!!!

R3, on Reddit, they see grooming EVERYWHERE. A 26-year-old is grooming a 25-year-old.

And sorry to say, but the "women" in their twenties are the absolute worst at this. I use the word "women" loosely because these dumb bitches want to be treated like they're still tweens.

R5, older millennial here as well. Yeah that's what I meant by younger generations. The change seems to have started somewhere in the middle to younger millennials. They are so pathetic.

It's either some hot fun action or it's gross.

It really depends on when they started hooking up and how long they've known each other.

If they just met, then horny 14 year old me would have been down for it. If they've known each other for more than a couple years, it's creepy and gross. A 15 year old hooking up with a 12 year old is gross.

I think she’d still be right even if it was two unrelated 14 year olds. The kid’s trying to get fucked in the arse while his mother is trying to sleep in the next room. I’m pretty sex positive, but there’s still such a thing as discretion. When I was this kid’s age, I at least had the good sense to go to a seedy public restroom if I wanted to suck some dicks. Don’t do your underage sex (or drinking or drugging for that matter) where your parents are liable to burst in at any moment.

[quote]where your parents are liable to burst in at any moment.

What you are calling a decision making flaw, they're probably calling a massive turn-on...

Better that they fuck, er, drink at home

The most common response seems to be people pointing the maturity difference between a 17 year old and 14 year old. Sure, maybe if you're 20 then it seems like those two are extremely different. I think to real adults they're pretty much peers. A freshman and a senior. It was pretty embarrassing to see people freak out like that.

“Grooming” is a word that has lost all meaning along with “pedophile”. They’re thrown around so much.

“Her little bottom boy son is shaking his tight hairless little bussy in my face every chance he gets and I’M the disgusting one?”

I think she has a point. Not because it’s icky gay stuff, but sex with a 14-year-old is dubious even for an older teen. Of course one could argue that they are close enough in age that 14 is not too young, but it’s the kid’s mother in her own house. She has the right to say no.

Yeah, this could be a case of a HS junior getting involved with a HS freshman, which wouldn't be particularly alarming to me though the step sibling situation is an added wrinkle. I have a sneaking suspicion the fact that it's two boys is what's fueling the woman's freak-out.

Good Lord, in high school in the seventies, many senior boys dated freshman girls. No one looked askance at it, not even the adults in the community. These couples were seen all over town together. Sometimes the freshman girl would get pregnant. No one felt pity for her, they claimed she deserved it. There was one girl who was pregnant every year in high school. She walked the graduation stage ready to pop. This was the only baby she kept. Now she has several great-grandchildren at the age of 63.

[quote]Yeah, this could be a case of a HS junior getting involved with a HS freshman

While I generally wouldn't bat an eye at an unrelated high school junior or even senior with a freshman without consideration for gender of either party, if the older one has known and lived with the younger one since the younger one was a tween (or younger), there is something gross about it.

If the two meet as older teens that's a whole different matter. But, when you've known someone since he was a child, there is something intangibly gross about it.

As with most posts on AITA, this is made up. The fact her account has been suspended adds to that.

Lots of assumptions being made here. Who says the younger boy is the bottom? Who says they even fucked? Doing mutual "sexual things" could mean mutual masturbation, or oral. Or frottage. Or even just making out with a little fondling and groping. Frankly, I find the mother's behavior and reactions far more worrying than what the boys are up to. She has no business going into the bathroom while her son is showering. And her reaction to the "sexual things" verges on hysterical! She has every right to object to the boys having sex under her roof, but she needs to sit down and talk with her son and the rest of the family before deciding how to proceed.

If this had been posted here first it would carry an EST label for sure...

True, the fact that they are related by marriage is pretty gross. The age gap and sexes doesn’t (or shouldn’t) matter.

[quote] the fact that they are related by marriage is pretty gross.

I’m afraid I’m going to have to disagree with you there.

For making her husband's son go live in Ontario (Calif. or Canada), she is definitely the asshole.

Let's face it. We don't have all the details so all we can do is speculate and what-if everything. That frau will be singing a different tune when she sees some of her son's other potential playmates. No one will ever be good enough for him.

Except maybe her...

[quote]Lots of assumptions being made here. Who says the younger boy is the bottom?

Universal law.

I'm calling it now. If the stepson goes to Ontario, the son is running away and joining him, partly just to get away from his hysterical frau mother.

Which boy is the top?

Dear Lord in Heaven!

I don’t remember this episode of the Brady Bunch.

I hope her son becomes the next Wrigleyville CumDump!

Older boy is going to graduate and go off to college where he'll find a boyfriend or a girlfriend. Younger one will start blowing the football team and hanging out in the local park restroom.

What could be more all-American than that?

R30, Mike had to have a huge talk with Greg and Peter on that one.

[quote]Which boy is the top?

Clueless.

Meh, r33, I told him ain't nobody getting pregnant, Mr. Brady. But everyone just got all crazy ass about everything.

[quote]Who says the younger boy is the bottom?

Right?!

[Quote] my son walked out of the stepsons room naked, and ran to his room.

Lmao! I had this happen when my best friend would “sleep over” all of the time. My mom eventually became suspicious and called my therapist to ask if she knew whether my friend and I were red hot lovers. My therapist said nothing to my mom but gave me the heads up.

One night Bo and I spent the night in the basement family room as we often did because it was the most private. We were in (and out) of sleeping bags on the floor having anal sex when suddenly my mom flips on the light at the top of the staircase asking what we were doing. We said nothing while quickly getting into separate sleeping bags. My mom proceeds to come down the stairs then asks why we were naked. I blurt out “because we’re hot.” Inexplicably, she turns around and goes back upstairs and turns out the light. We resume our night of marathon sex. Whew…. We were lucky we didn’t get busted. And Btw.. when I told my mom that we were hot - I meant it!!

R37 I knew you two were having sex!

Straight people are so willfully stupid when it comes to gay guys' sexual development.

Lmao r38!!

R39 in what way does that relate to the Reddit story?

stepbrothers fucking is fucked up, even in DL Land

mom is right

R41, all of the stupid commentary on that thread from breeders re: gaylings makes it related.

That's hot, r42

She shouldn't be in the bathroom while her son was showering.

Why not, everyone else is r45?

Cause she has a cunt and is one, r46. Neither are welcome during sexy time.

Why does the older boy have to leave? Why can't she send her son away?

Why can't she send herself away and put everyone out of her frau misery!

Was dad in the shower, too?

This will end in tears.

I saw this elsewhere on reddit except it was a 17-year-old stepbrother fucking his 14-year-old stepsister.

R51, this will end in cum-smears.

We know how this ends these days. Reality TV!!!!

I hope the husband chooses the son and leaves her ass.

He won’t.

I knew a new stepbrother and stepsister who started dating. Later the stepbrother came out as gay, though.

I was having gay sex when I was 14. No grooming. No coercion. My choice. No regrets. God would it have been convenient if my mom had married his dad.

So, where is this lady even coming from?

Teenage boys are horny beings. Fraus like this have little clue how to handle a teenage son's budding hormones, and instead choose to try and stifle basic biology.

So truly, what’s a way to handle a teenage boy’s hormones?

Photos?

r61 Oh where to begin.

Women talk about their bodies “being controlled”, but no one is more controlling than homophobic or low-key homophobic Fraus who want to sniff out gay sex between young guys. They lose their minds. Our society now views normal male urges as highly deviant. Lots of my youth was ruined by this crazy behavior.

R61, not by calling him disgusting and demanding he move out of the house.

I’d imagine almost any parent would freak out, at least a bit, to know there was teenage sex going on under their roof. I mean, you have to be realistic that it could happen, but you don’t want to just flat-out condone it, I guess. It’s not an easy situation. Not sure what I’d do. I’m no prude, and I know teens have sex, but jeez..

Kicking the stepson out is cunty. I’m sure her precious son was a willing participant. The dumb kids could have been more careful to not get caught. My friend and I had a sexual relationship from 14-18 and never got caught. At my house and his house. There were some close calls, but we always made sure the door was locked and we definitely didn’t cuddle shirtless or sneak out of each other’s rooms naked.

[quote] I’m sure her precious son was a willing participant.

He's pretty clear about that. And yes, I get that it might be weird and not exactly something you want happening. But NOT going into hysterics is job one here. Calming your tits, and telling them to knock it off under your roof would be much better than the bullshit this dingbat is demanding, like basically throwing the stepson out of the house in some act of horror and revenge.

The woman who posted the thread on Reddit has had her account suspended. Poor homophobic cunt.

This is such a damn statistical blunder. The rarity of shit like this happening between stepbrothers has got to be pretty slim. It also intrigues me since it isn't particularly "incest" - it's the age people are concerned about. 14 and 17 honestly are awful and scary ages to have in difference between each other. Still, it's up to the laws to decide statutory rape.

I'm going to call it out and say this Reddit OP is someone like Gerg was - she makes shit up for what it's worth and is getting the attention for it. If mutual affection is a thing in this bawdy teenage situation, those kids would've kept it discreet and a secret. I withheld all kinds of shit when I was a kid. It seems ingenuine. But who knows, it probably did happen.

We did oral, anal, ass eating, cum swallowing, piss drinking, etc

[quote] 14 and 17 honestly are awful and scary ages to have in difference between each other.

The fuck you talking about? It's not awful, and it sure as fuck isn't SCARY. What are you, twelve? Fuck off with your stupid nonsense, you weird fuck.

R71 simmer down.

[quote]I'm going to call it out and say this Reddit OP is someone like Gerg was - she makes shit up for what it's worth and is getting the attention for it.

Totally agreed R69. There have been a few of these Reddit EST threads posted here on DL recently. One was about the child of a gay for pay porn star father who was "straight" but worked in the gay porn industry. The child had allegedly never seen any of the porn films her father was in but could reel off a long list of male porn stars her father had had sex with on film. Another from the girlfriend of a bi/gay porn star where most of it just seemed made up.

I teach high school and this age gap is gross to kids today. No judgment on the issue at hand, but it's a big gap in the eyes of teens.

really, no freshman/senior anything r74? Don't really believe you.

Sounds like a load of made up crap R74.

Video, please!

Further on down in the comments at Reddit, it says they're in Canada.

In Canada, a 14-year-old can consent to having sex with someone 17. And their incest law doesn't mention stepbrothers and stepsisters, just half-brothers and half-sisters.

Cut the lady some slack, she has to do the laundry.

R74, what infantilized prudes.

R32 Exactly, Now that the younger brother has discovered how to please an older guy, he'll be confident and he'll have the football team and the theater crowd chasing him around. He'll be cleaned out and pre lubed as he sashays to all the games. The cheerleaders will be asking him how to give a good blow job. He won't reveal all of his tricks. He may be a whore but he's not stupid.

[quote]And their incest law doesn't mention stepbrothers and stepsisters

Incest is classified as sexual activity occurring between biological family members R78 - obviously including half-brothers and half-sisters. Stepbrothers are essentially biological strangers.

Honestly if a stepbrother and stepsister were caught fucking each other I don’t doubt the stepbrother would end up getting the shit kicked out of him. Getting sent to his mother’s house is not that big of a deal.

He is 14, OP. There is a world of difference between 14 and 17.

not really r84. Both high schoolers, basically having a little fun. No need for all the hysterics.

I don’t see what the big deal is. There no risk of pregnancy

STDs. Also, what parent wants to run the risk of seeing their kids having sex?

I dated a 17 year old at 14. It’s normal

She's not worried about STDs r87. She just hates her kid's a homo.

Like some of the other quick starters, I was having lots of sex at 14, but not intercourse. Usually with my age-mate cousin, but also with a friend in my grade and his two older brothers. Heck, my friend's oldest brother was 17 and I was 13 when we first blew each other.

Honestly I do not regret it the least little bit. Except that when my friend found out, he got jealous and threatened to "out" me. But his brothers talked him down. All of it ended when I finished high school and got out of Dodge.

By the time I got to college, I knew what I liked and how I liked it. Of course, the plague hit hard the year I went off to college (1982), so I abstained from any exchange of bodily fluids for many years. By the time grad school started, we knew a lot about playing "safe."

She's prolly upset that her little baby boy is even able to have a hard dick and shoot cum from it! LOL! Bet his step bro gave him a wonderful blow job. She should go watch Love, Victor on Hulu. It would help.

R89 she should be worried. Teenage boys aren’t known for being cautious, hell neither are grown men as is evidenced by monkeypox and that strain of antibiotic resistant STD, can’t remember which one.

R91, she should watch Dawson's 50 Load Weekend instead! That's where her son is headed!!

r91 Try your best to write English

I’d put money on the OP of the Reddit thread being poo shoes.

gay men, and gay boys, are going to keep having sex r92. You are going to have to find a way to deal with the trauma of that.

It’s not traumatic, drama queen at R96. It’s realistic. STDs are a huge risk and no one wants to catch their kids in the act of sex, except for perverts.

breathe, sweetie darling r97. Sex happens. Yes, even your own sweet innocent untouchable babies eventually discover it. Try not to panic.

R98 is jerking off to teenage stepbro porn as he types.

She didn't catch them in the act. She spied on them when they were sleeping and they were sleeping together. Not fucking. But honestly, Sometimes I have to laugh at the young adult romances between Gay teens because they're so fucking chaste. Hormonally, when I was 14,15,16,17, etc. I was one horny little fucker. If I had a buddy or two or three who liked to jack off together or blow one another I was in heaven.

[quote] It really depends on when they started hooking up and how long they've known each other.

No, it does not. 17/14 is perfectly legal and completely natural. Leave them the fuck alone.

r97 Spoken like a true hysterical frau

But, but, he's used goods! Who will want him now that his precious flower has been plucked!!

R102 trite and unwitty.

r104 Bless your heart

“Help me, my kids are doing sex!” 🤡

We have no idea whether or not they are actually fucking. Maybe they aren't. I know I fooled around a lot, but I didn't fuck until I was in college. I topped a guy I was dating, then he topped me and I liked it. Guess I'm a bottom but can rise to the occasion if necessary.

Face it, Mama Bear, he's the slut of all time!

R107 I could care less if your bottom is a bottom of the bottom barrel or not

[quote] I could care less

I don't care either, but I can't forgive this usage, EVER!!!

Some of my friends who have teenagers have told me similar stories…their kids don’t seem interested in sex or dating. Who knows if that’s true; maybe they are just good at hiding it. Maybe they have more exposure to sex what with streaming tv and the internet and aren’t curious and horny like I was when I was a teen. I didn’t have any kind of anal sex until I was almost 30 (long story) but I started giving blow and hand jobs at 14 or 15!

Pornography of any kind at a moments notice and at your fingertips makes it a lot easier to get the sexual release you need when you’re a horny teenager. I’m sure that has a lot to do with the “lower sex drive” of young people these days.

So problem solved r112!

Thank you for your contribution r112

It added absolutely nothing

R113 you’re joking, but really, it’s better teens at home jacking off to porn than running around spreading disease, knocking girls up or getting knocked up, imo.

R114 thank you for returning the favor.

Actually, I was only half kidding r115. It has been a social problem for 100 years, what to do about horny teens. Traditionally, the answer was marry them off as soon as possible, especially the girls, even if it meant marrying them to older men.

This is actually better. Teen pregnancy is a social pain in the ass, and really anything that cuts down on it is better.

[quote]Both high schoolers

Most 14 year olds are still in middle school, at least at the 6th-9th grade campuses I work on.

9th grade is high school is the US .

^ I'm not saying 14 year olds don't or shouldn't have sex with older boys, I'm just pointing this out because it may contribute to frauish hysteria when they think of their sons as being too young for a high school senior to diddle.

OK. Attack me and scorn me and bully me. But I have to dissent on the appropriateness of this. A 14 year old boy still has a lot of kid in him. He is just discovering the massive potential of his sexdrives. At 17 you may not be a lot more experienced, but you're experienced. It's not uncommon for a 14 yr old to have a crush on a 17 yr old even among straights. But if they're really having a sexual relationship, even if it falls into the realm of exploratory, I find that not cool at all. I think if there's an age gap between a 24 yr old and a 27 yr old that is nothing. But the gap between 14 and 17 is bigger. And honestly, why is a 17 yr old bothering with a 14 yr old? It just seems odd to me a inappropriate. But I get hot just reading about it.

[quote] But if they're really having a sexual relationship, even if it falls into the realm of exploratory, I find that not cool at all.

Why? Why can't a 14 year old in doing that exploring have fun with a 17 year old? What are you actually afraid of here? What is it that is so awful if a 14 year old who wants to have sex winds up having sex with a 17 year old who also wants to have sex? Maybe the 17 year old is more mature, but honestly so what? What exactly is the problem?

She screamed because the stepson talked to her son in the shower?

I actually agree with the mother. Gays need to be kept away from teenage boys.

even other teenage gay boys, boris at r124?

r124, maybe you are not a frau, but you are definitely a homophobic troll. GFY.

Teenage boys have always and will always be horny. Look at how many people in this thread claim to have been quite sexually active at 14 -no "grooming" or coercion needed. No one should ever be surprised that teenagers have sex. So what is this mother's issue, really? Is she upset because:

1. her 14-year-old son is having sex?

2. her son is having sex with a 17-year-old?

3. her son is having sex with his step-brother?

4. her son is gay?

As we saw above, none of those things are illegal where they live. So why is mommie-dearest so freaked out? Homophobia? Jealousy?

As far as the age difference goes. at that time of life numerical age doesn't mean a lot. I've known 14-year-olds who were extremely mature, self-aware, and fully able to handle their relationships -and I've known 17-year-olds who were mentally and emotionally still small children. We don't know what these two teens are really like. We don't know their levels of emotional maturity, or sexual experience. We presume a lot of details, and we may be just plain wrong about them. This mother is not a reliable reporter of the facts...

Finally, where does the father fit in? Why no mention of him at all? Didn't she go to her husband with this before posting it on the internet? And what of her son's biological father? Was he abusing his son, and that's why she divorced him and is so protective of his relationships with other males? Or is this a Datalounge Super Fantasy, where the step-dad and brother are both sleeping with the younger boy? It's all lurid speculation!

And for a homophobe, you sure do suck on Putin's dick an awful lot r124. You should stop that. It's unseemly.

In this case, yes, ephebophile R125. Let the 17 find someone his own age. A 14 year old doesn't need to be influence by his perv stepbrother. This isn't the way to discover your sexuality. Relatives of any kind are always off limits. R126 And you're a fucking perve, possible ephebophile.

Oh how shocking a freshman is fucking a Junior, oh the humanity. Seriously the deep hidden homophobia inside Reddit is funny considering the sub reddits one can find there.

R119, Jr. High is still 7th-9th grade in some U.S. school districts, including the one my nephews and nieces attend. You are correct that some U.S. high schools have 9th graders, but not all of them do.

Go fuck yourself R128. Just make sure whatever it is its not a teenage boy.

And you're a Putinista whore r129. Leave the cult. You will feel better about yourself.

I'm not in a cult you dumb cunt R133. Unless it's the cult of common sense.

Also too, whore at r132, how can fucking myself lead to fucking a teenage boy? Think it through, Putin whore, think it through.

Ignore the homophobic troll and continue the discussion.

You are in the Putin/Trump cult, and you should rethink all your life choices, for your own sake, r134. The life you save may be your own.

R115, are teen boys getting knocked up these days? 😂

I said go fuck yourself R135 dont go fucking any teenage boys. Interesting how your so trigger over the sex lives of teenagers. Get over yourselves. You're still a perv R137. Seek help.

Its the facts. Deal with it. Other gays agree.

I don't need to seek help, I have you r139, and making fun of you is therapy enough. You just so stupid, and it gives me life. Thank you for that.

Can we not let the homophobic troll derail this topic?

R120, I don't ever remember people calling relationships between upper- and lower-classmen 'diddling' the way that you do. I suspect your choice of language and diction is representative of the hysterical puritan era we have entered.

You have no life except online you pathetic cunt R141 this is likely your only human interactions. Sad loser.

It really is absurd, r143. A freshman in high school and a junior/senior? Perfectly natural. And they're acting like it's a pedo thing. Crazy.

R127, she's homophobic and gave herself away with her use of the word 'disgusting'. She's also a cunt.

[quote] As far as the age difference goes. at that time of life numerical age doesn't mean a lot

R127 eeeh, what? That’s the time of life when it matters most

Exactly, r146. But, of course, her angel isn't disgusting. Just the stepbrother. Her angel doesn't enjoy stepbro's cock up his ass. Not one bit.

If a 14-year-old boy was fucking a 17-year-old girl this discussion would be very different -or even nonexistent.

Not one poster here (that I can recall) has advocated for adults to have sex with minors -let alone 14-year-olds. A legal, three-year age difference does not make someone a "perv." Choosing language like that demonstrates undeniable homophobia.

I'm led to believe teens fool around...I never had a close friend to experiment with..but I remember in high school, aged 14, hearing fellow school mates talk about having sex...I was such a kid at 14 it shocked me...but these guys were so clued in.

[quote] Interesting how your so trigger over the sex lives of teenagers.

Is English your second language, R139?

Of course it is r151

R151, "Idiot" is his first language.

R149 that’s such a fake example. Older teen girls rarely hook up with younger boys. A better example is if a 17 boy was fucking his 14-year-old stepsister.

You can bet parents would be calling it disgusting and bet the older boy would be the one in most trouble . But it has fuck all to do with homophobia.

Just cause nobody wanted you, Jan, is no reason to take it out on me.

[quote] I confronted my son and he started crying and said they’ve done sexual things, but not to be mad because it's not that bad and it’s mutual.

It's probably just mutual masturbation.

[quote] I confronted my son and he started crying

Good going, frau. I'm sure he'll run to you and confide in you in the future.

There is a risk of pregnancy in hetero relations. A girl having her stepbrother's baby is something worth freaking out about. (Although even then, it needs to be approached sensitively rather than viciously.) You simply cannot compare it to two young gays getting off together.

[quote] I should have read the comments before replying

The comments on that thread are like 100 Avas from [italic]Hacks[/italic] wagging their finger in your face and telling you wrong and problematic your entire existence is.

the kids seem in search of affection as much as sex. i think its sweet but yeah better if they find it within there own grade/age

They're less mature and self-aware than Ava, r159. It's a bunch of stunted people saying things like "omg my step brother molested me when I was 10 and he was 17. You need to call the police!".

Americans, and in this case, Canadians, need to get over this Puritanical view of sex. It’s so ridiculous.

Sounds like an elaborate scenario troll

R162, continental Europeans would have no time for this BS.

I bet the boys' relationship lasts longer than hers and the husband's.

Just how disturbing is it that [italic]this[/italic] is the top-rated comment on that thread?

[quote] weird amount of people defending a 17 year old fucking a 14 year old in these comments

^ I'm wondering about the parents. Do they drink or gamble? Do they fight a lot? Maybe the teens found themselves seeking solace in each other.

^^ Or maybe they're just horny guys who started innocently fooling around, and it grew (or is growing) into more? I think everyone's making a mountain out of a molehill with this one. It won't last, and as long as mom gets her act together no one will be scarred for life over it.

R8, I'm becoming convinced that we must wrest cultural control of the nation away from those awful prude Zillennials.

Prude zillennials? It's old farts who support stuff like Don't Say Gay laws, Moms For Liberty, etc.

But elderly conservatives on the DL don't want to admit that

I think everyone's making a mounting out of a swole hole with this one.

R170, I would honestly say that elderly people are much, MUCH less prudish than current 20somethings. With less black-or-white thinking, too!

Everyone’s a victim now - even those who don’t know they’re victims. Everyone is being groomed. Blah, blah, blah. Jesus Christ. Fraus now believe childhood ends at 35.

I think that was made up tbh, little details didn’t make sense. If you really were a concerned mother would you really go onto Reddit, and specifically AITA? Only attention seekers do that.

When I was a 14 year old that was the kind of thing I’d have died to have happen. Teenage boys getting horny together. But I still don’t think the post was real.

Child protection professional here. We don't assess sibling sexual interaction based on age alone. I can see a scenario where 14yo and 17yo step-siblings fooling around is relatively harmless but still not appropriate, and would need to be worked through. It may also be sexual abuse if the younger child has been manipulated, coerced or forced, which is pretty common in these scenarios. Step/siblings hooking up is often indicative of underlying issues with family dynamics, even if there's no outright violence and abuse between the teenagers. So I think they need professional help no matter what.

R176 = Nancy Grace.

I hope when the 14-year-old turns 16 he seeks court permission to marry the 19-year-old, and they live happily ever after.

She never mentions how long they've been a "blended family". That seems like a weird detail to leave out. Has it been 12 years or 18 months? It's probably all bullshit anyway.

That's because it's an EST R179. The person has since had their Reddit account suspended.

R178 really? You think a 16 and 19-year-old marrying is going to end happily?

I have only had one lover since I was 12 years old. so I don't care how hot you get me, I wouldn't do him cold.

The mom's in the bathroom "getting towels" while her son is showering there? And she freaks out at the stepson when he, not noticing her (the bathroom must be huge), opens the curtain to talk to her son? I sense projection of incestuous feelings and more than a little jealousy.

[quote] There was one girl who was pregnant every year in high school

R18 Only the one? At mine this was a monthly (or more ) ocurrence

r4 it's reddit, they think a 30 year old should be sent to prison for looking at a 22 year old with lust in his eye

R85 14 is an age where you're easily taken advantage of. Just out of curiosity: Are you as tolerant when a teacher (m or w) diddles a 14-year-old or some redneck fucks a 14-year-old and gets her pregnant? It if was 14-year-olds among themselves, the situation would be different but I understand the concern because one is so much older. Practically, I would just extensively lecture my child about protection, knowing that I probably cannot change what they do anyway. The legal implications - depending on where you live - might also be a factor. If you know this happens to your child who is a minor under your roof, you can be charged with child abuse.

R75, you don't have to believe me, but this generation is different from your own.

R187/R74 is right. What I can judge from teen comments on reddit and tiktok is basically any age gap over a year is a crime. a 17 year old dating a 15 year old in highschool would be a major scandal now.

I love how much this story has captured DL's imagination. At 14, I was a minor international webcam star, getting asked to show hole for the first time. I didn't even know what that meant back then! Was I horny to high heaven and enjoyed the attention I was getting when a young gringo across the ocean watched me jerk off? Yes. Was I also being taken advantage of because my parents couldn't properly police my internet habits? Also yes. I feel kinda sleazy about it looking back, but it's nothing too traumatic. At least I didn't have actual sex with an adult...

[quote]As with most posts on AITA, this is made up. The fact her account has been suspended adds to that.

That was the first thing I checked.

[quote]And, one more thought... this absurd prudishness and leaps to "He's being groomed! It doesn't matter if they're gay! Protect him!" is what you get when straight autists get to claim they're queer by saying they are non-binary, asexual, whatever nonsense when really they're just unfuckable, boring assholes who want a reason to claim that they're oppressed. They don't actually understand what it's like to be a gay guy. They're just playing pretend.

LOL!!!!! Thank you for the laugh, R3. I completely agree with what you wrote but damn, it made me spit coffee all over my keyboard.

IMO it's not just the Gay aspect, for this woman, altho that's a big part of it. I think her basic problem is even imagining her baby boy is sexual. She probably still looks at him as a child. I have no idea what these two kids look like. But I have seen 14 yr olds who look older than 14. Mostly girls. But a few boys too. And I have seen 17 yr olds who could pass for 14. So there's that. I would love to know more about their physical appearance

So some of us think this is fine, no problem. How about a 12 yr old fucking around with a 15 yr old. OK?

Obviously, a question about which there is no social consensus.

Her house; her rules.

If you provide us, R193, a list of every combination and permutation of ages in such a scenario, including the sex of the participants, which sexual acts are included, and who does what to whom, we will offer our guidance as to what is and is not acceptable.

I assume the laws are sensibly written so that 14/17 is legal but 15-18 would result in the 18 year old going to prison.

[quote] I would love to know more about their physical appearance

Ummmm…

Useless without the vid.

[quote]we will offer our guidance as to what is and is not acceptable

We are the Data Lounge. It is what we do.

I suspect this Reddit thread may be an accomplished troll, stealthily inserting bait like the mother being present in the bathroom while her 14 year old son is naked and showering just a few feet away. Then we are asked to believe the silly bitch sees her (again) fully naked son leaving the bedroom of the stepson..... and THEN she confronts the kid, and he tearfully confesses. I think the odds are strong someone's Nifty submission was rejected and Reddit seemed like a reasonable alternative.

Having said that, I will state the obvious: The Jocasta-Frau clearly has already committed situational incest with her son by trampling normal gender boundaries and always somehow seeing him naked. She's enraged she has a rival she can't compete with and is stirring up drama.

Although she is likely a fictional character, I will say she does have some reason to be concerned around the possibility that the boy's romance could turn the household upside down with gay teen adolescent drama, but that could be handled far easier than her over investment in her developing sons sexuality and his consensual activity with another teenage boy.

I'd ask for a rewrite.

I would've practically killed to have a 17 year old show me the ropes when I was 14.

You know, the 14 year old is probably just getting used to the fact he is Gay, along with all the usual adolescent angst of sexuality.He probably feels safe with the 17 yr old. That's important. R201, I agree with you SO MUCH.

We have way too many straight women on this website.

R203 Agreed. Damn broads!

They probably come here hoping to catch a glimpse of hot man-on-man action, or to get hints as to whether their frigid husbands might actually be queer.

[quote]Her house; her rules.

She is probably living off of the money her husband makes and has nothing better to do than try to control the lives of everyone around her.

There's something off about Mom. I think she's lusting after the boys. Probably eyeing the 17 yr old for herself and OMG, he wants my son!

^ You're projecting

Casting calls are now open for this movie!

Someone should send her a subscription to TheStepBrothers on Only Fans.

A 12 year might be barely in puberty so I would say not OK.

[quote] Useless without the vid.

Look up "Greg and Joey" on any porn site.

Poor babies.

Gaylings interrupted and shamed by a hysterical shrieking frau.

She is the asshole.

Once I read that the son came out of the step-brother's room naked, I knew it was bullshit. Not likely.

Unless the both of them are developmentally disabled. That's beyond stupid.

Yup, I don’t believe a word of it.

Reddit is full of fantasists and engagement farmers.

This morning on YouTube I watched one of those "first time hearing..." reaction videos. The guy was listening to ABBA's Dancing Queen and freaking out because the girl in the song was "only 17!" He had no clue who ABBA was, nor where they came from -let alone anything about ages of consent, drinking, etc. in Europe. In his mind, a 17-year-old had no business being in a club, dancing and flirting -even if that's all she was doing. This guy is 40-ish. When did we become so prudish? The US has the oldest ages for consent and drinking. Fine. But the rest of the world sees those things differently. Why should anyone be surprised, let alone shocked? These mythical, Canadian step-brothers are legal. End of story. If I were do try something with one of them it would be illegal. But Im not and I wouldn't. Instead I'll mind my own business and hope, on the off chance that these two are real, that they have a good time and have only fond memories when they look back on this part of their lives.

[quote] Cut the lady some slack, she has to do the laundry.

In my home, we kids did our own laundry starting around age 12. Is that uncommon?

R216 I think this mass notion of being an adolescent forever and ever is some kind of marketing psyop but I haven't really thought it through

[quote] as to whether their frigid husbands

The most unrealistic phrase I’ve ever heard in my life has to be “frigid husbands”.

My family was like yours r217. In fact, we were expected to take care of the communal things like sheets and towels.

It's called chores.

The extended infancy of American youth into their 20s & 30s and GurlBoss attitude is also why we have huge rates of autism and Downs babies.

I guess we went from an elaborate scenario about stepbrothers to shrieking about chores and "kids today"

THis reminds me of that scene in Love, Victor where his mother barges in to his bedroom and catches him and his boyfriend fucking. It was a pretty hot scene.

Pretty much r221 though we didn't call it chores. Five kids. Mom worked, a professional, it was natural. If you found a load of sheets or towels in the dryer you were expected to fold them after you removed them. If we had a small load we were encouraged to share it.

The only non participants were my father and grandmother. My father was always at me about my academic indequacies even though I made the honor roll. I lost it and told him to fuck off, at least I wasn't intimidated by a fucking washing machine. *ouch*

R176, get a life and a non-fantasy job.

She’s jealous.

[quote]If we had a small load we were encouraged to share it

Pics please.

[quote]In my home, we kids did our own laundry starting around age 12. Is that uncommon?

Hey, old enough to do laundry, old enough to suck dick.

I tried to imagine this with a 14 yr old girl and the 17 yr old guy. It's creepy to me. My personal experience, albeit anecdotal, is that 14 yr olds are an emotional mess. And if the kid is discovering he is Gay it's even worse. For me, the 17 yr old really ought to back off.

I was playing around with older guys when I was in 6th grade/12 yrs old - not at all against my will and pretty harmless looking back. I was just a very curious, extremely horny kid.

I'll probably be shot at sunrise for saying this, but males and females are different. Especially in their attitudes toward sex. And gay males, in particular, tend to be much more open to and desirous of sexual situations. Fourteen and gay: Sex is great fun. Older guy? Why not? Fourteen and straight: I'd like to experiment. Older woman? Whatever. Fourteen and female: You really love me, right? Older guy? You really love me, right?

Context is everything.

And there's also the issue that girls can get pregnant. Even if laws should treat them the same (and they should), the sexes are not actually the same. No baby will result from these two stepbros having a little fun.

Those Reddit responses are what happens when you have an entire group raised by Nancy Grace "stranger danger!" type moms.

Since we don't know what these step-brothers look like, I'd just add that I remember seeing some fellow 14-year olds in the junior high locker room (9th grade) who were further along on the puberty scale than some 17-year olds in senior high. There were even a few who could easily pass for freshmen in college.

If they were both 17 I think it would be okay but I don't like the age difference.

Relationships in adolescence are all about peers. Teens who associate with younger people or older people are outliers. Most 17 year-olds don't want to hang out with14 year-olds.

R237 But this is not a peer relationship as in "friends." .. You can find a lot of boyfriend-girlfriend (romantic) relationships where one is somewhat older than the other. .. Why do you think so many jurisdictions have passed so-called "Romeo & Juliet" laws to allow consensual sex to happen between teenagers who aren't the same age, with perhaps both of them being under the regular age of consent?

This is better than fiction.

I think it's time to reconsider the direction that this country's sexual mores are headed. Because this whole outrage over tiny age gaps, hysteria over non-existent predators and grooming, general prudishness over sex and biology? It has gone WAY too far and it's starting to look like the abyss

Gen Z is ready for Islam.

R241, I think Gen Z's infantilized view of sex and dating is, to use a word that they love to overuse, T-O-X-I-C and they will be vetoed.

Am I sick or crazy? Maybe a perv? Because thinking about this makes me hot.

[quote]Step/siblings hooking up is often indicative of underlying issues with family dynamics, even if there's no outright violence and abuse between the teenagers. So I think they need professional help no matter what.

This is more concerning IMO than the age/developmental difference between a 17 year-old and a 14 year-old. If the story has some basis in reality and isn't the typical Reddit outrage-bait then there's a troubling lack of boundaries in evidence.

STAY TUNED FOR PART 2:

Mom finds the hidden spy cam that her husband installed in the 17-year-old's bedroom.

He explains by saying her prior accusation led him to thinking he should monitor his son's actions more closely to determine if there's actually anything to be worried about.

[quote] Step/siblings hooking up is often indicative of underlying issues with family dynamics, even if there's no outright violence and abuse between the teenagers. So

They're two unrelated gaylings with hormones raging and this is possibly the first time they've met another gayling. And they conveniently have access to a bedroom. Of course they're going to fool around!

[quote] STAY TUNED FOR PART 2:

Mom finds the hidden spy cam that her husband installed in the 17-year-old's bedroom.

He explains by saying her prior accusation led him to thinking he should monitor his son's actions more closely to determine if there's actually anything to be worried about

Never surprises me how many men have incest fantasies.

I certainly butchered that formatting

How long have the step-siblings known one another? Two adolescents meeting one another for the first time and fooling around is a different scenario from two members of a blended family engaging in sexual activity after having grown up together.

It's never been more jarring to me just how little women know about male sexuality. Like, they don't get it. At all. Especially gay sexuality

What's there to get, R250? When two hearts come together there should be a pledge and commitment before they jump down each other's pants—otherwise it's just cheap thrills!

It has nothing to do with not understanding, men and sex are not some mystical enigmatic thing.

It was tumblr that convinced the younger millennials that people are literally children till they're 25, and that a 27 year old dating a 24 year old is a groomer.

R252, apparently they remain a mystery that fraus don't get.

Disapproving of it is not the same as not getting it R254. And rest assured , they don’t like straight male sexuality any more than gay sex. You’re the one who doesn’t get it.

[quote] Disapproving of it is not the same as not getting it [R254]. And rest assured , they don’t like straight male sexuality any more than gay sex. You’re the one who doesn’t get it.

And? Is there some particular reason that you think that I or anybody else here should care about some frau's approval or disapproval? Because as far as I know, there are no children here. We do not need approvals or permissions from some random frau.

R256 you’re quite stupid, you know that? No one said you should care about their approval. But your assumption that they don’t get it is incorrect.

(You’re also a cunt)

R257, I really cannot give less of a fuck what you think of me or what it is that you think you're accomplishing here. But I will tell you this: you better stay in your lane. Because if you think fraus are going to come here and they are going to decide what is right and what is appropriate in terms of gay sexuality, you have another coming to you. And we will clash.

R258 I don’t know who you think you are telling other posters what to do. Fuck off, Hall Monitor Queen.

R259, a gay man who has been here much longer than you. Bitch.

What an accomplishment you rancid diseased cunt R260

R261, oh no, so wounded. So tender to the touch.

I smell tuna. 🐟🐠🍣🐡🍤

It's none of my business and none of hers.

R264, it is the nature of the frau to make his business and your business her business. Not content establishing rules for her sad-sack schlubby husband, the frau now feels entitled to put her $0.02 in when it comes to gay sex.

R256 you know AITAH is full of liars right? Teens trying their hand at creative writing, bored adults trolling, and bots. Seriously. Read half the crap on there. More drama than days of our lives and the stories never make sense. Everyone is insane in them.

You can especially tell by patterns -- like if a post about teen step siblings fucking blows up, guess what? You'll have 10 more that month. A lot of repeats too by just flipping genders because some people want to see if people give a different answer depending on gender. It's fucking stupid and annoying AF people on DL are so hard up for good conversation they are reposting from Reddit (a dumpster) as if this is bored panda. Ffs

There's an entire pron studio called "Brother Crush" where this step-brother business is the dominant theme. Of course, the actors are over 18, but the situations leading to their hook-ups are about as "creative" as the one presented in the Reddit scenario.

R8, we let the younger millennials take the lead on far too many cultural touchstones. I think it's time we assert ourselves and wrest control from them.

This has Josman written all over it.

R151 R152 R153= a trio of jackasses. Your pathetic attempts at snark won't deflect from your perversions. Stay away from teenagers before you have to register as a sex offender if you're not already. Freaks.

I'd bet she's pissed because of the dirty sheets, yellow stains on socks and the towels that crack. My best linen....Sob

Two of my cousins were American HS football studs. I so would have. I suspect my sister might have. 🥳

How it all began...

Reddit frau is probably testing out her BL fanfiction.

In Taiwan, the stepbrother relationship is frequently a theme portrayed in the boy love (BL) dramas. An example of one would be "Stay Away from Me" from one of the dramas produced within the very popular HIStory TV series.

The set up in that one has the mother of the one boy and the dad of the other getting married and going on an extended honeymoon trip, telling the more stable, studious boy to tutor and take care of the more wild one who's on the verge of becoming a popular young actor and is now failing in school.

This series also includes a wacky female friend who is meant to be a parody of the obsessive fangirls who watch BL series. She immediately senses a chemistry between the two stepbrothers, and while they get to know one another, she's already writing erotic fanfiction about them. And of course, when the wild brother moves in with the stable one, there's only one bed.

Trailer.

I can't say I blame the mom of a 14 year old if she wants to separate her son from his 17 year old stepbrother, if they're having a physical relationship. What do you expect her to do, say "Isn't that cute?" and forget about it? Parents generally don't want their 14 year old children to be having sex yet, never mind with a member of the family (even if they're not related). Try to think about what you would do if you were an actual parent in the situation.

Seriously, R275, I think I would be oblivious to the situation. I wouldn't be in the bathroom while my 14-year-old son was showering. If I saw him nude in the hallway I wouldn't question him about it. I'd wait for him to talk to me if he were having a problem.

R276 I guess there are parents who are willfully oblivious. But 14 years old is not an adult and most parents don't let kids that age have sex in their house. If you saw your son nude coming out of the other kid's room at 6am you wouldn't question him? Okay so you're saying you would treat a 14 year old child as an adult who can make his own decisions about having sex in your home (with his stepbrother, to boot) and wouldn't intervene, right?

R276 By the way, where would you draw the line at what's appropriate/inappropriate?

R277-278, I don't think I would jump to the conclusion that my fourteen-year-old was having sex with his step-brother. Not usually by first thought. From your response I guess it IS your first thought...

R279 The mother says the kid told her they were doing sexual things together. That's what I'm going by. I have no idea what my "first thought" would be but apparently hers was right. However yeah I would probably conclude that, since I'm not stupid.

[quote] But 14 years old is not an adult and most parents don't let kids that age have sex in their house.

I definitely am interested in your opinion on any matter.

Well then by all means let's encourage a 14 year old to have sex with his 17 year old stepbrother. Maybe a few other siblings and step-siblings could jump in, too.

A good number of these stories on Reddit are fiction.

This woman's account is now suspended on Reddit - probably because it is shit posting.

This. Never. Happened.

Well it should have!

I would not be surprised if some lustful 14 yr old wrote aa work of fiction that was wishful thinking about his hot new step brother.

I think I'm in agreement with the majority here that this seems fake. And even if it's a long shot real, why would you seek opinions from Reddit users on something so personal?

Dat lady wants her stepson, and she's pissed that she has a rival.

[quote]And even if it's a long shot real, why would you seek opinions from Reddit users on something so personal?

That actually happens all the time. There's a huge number of people on Reddit with a variety of views that then get challenged among each other, until some sort of consensus is reached through discussion and upvoting. It's a "wisdom of the masses" sort of thing. Better get an opinion from them than – or in addition to – your friends.

Posters ask complete strangers for advice on personal matters here on DL all the time as well. And some of it is great advice, too!

It's fake. Sounds like a bad Chat GPT mix up of a Nifty.org story ("I feel for my hot, older stepbrother.").